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washington. jeremy peters along with thomas. you saw the campus, gorgeous. >> very good. >> you got the message. >> also, negates it. the ohio state. the ohio state. >> did i not say that? >> you said the. a slight difference. >> all right. so we have been talking a lot about the last week of elections. it's really a tossup. i don't care what republicans say, what democrats say, it is still a tossup as we have been saying, it depends on issues like ebola and isis yesterday the general feeling is he dropped the ball on ebola. >> this morning in his comments, there are a lot of unanswered
questions of how to deal with americans exposed to ebola. president obama is making it clear, he doesn't support measures taken by a handful of governors, including chris christie, to quarantine health workers returning from west africa. he did, however, seem to support tougher rules for members of the military deployed to countries where the virus is spreading. he says the nation's troops are acuss told to more restrictive conditions. >> we got to make sure those willing to go over there, they are applauded, tankened a support, they are not treating patients. second of all, they are not there voluntarily. it's a part of their mission that's been asoviet unioned to them by their commanders and ultimately by me, the commander if chief. >> mark halperin, it's hard to figure out exactly what the president of the united states
is saying there. he is saying his own government is implementing, and when asked why, they're saying that's because they weren't treating patients. it seems like there were two standards from a president at the same time was saying we must make all the decisions about handling ebola, based on skievenls it has nothing to do with science or medicine. it looks like the president was caught in yet again another inconsistency. i'm not knocking the president. i'm stunned. we still can't get a consistent policy on any of these things. >> it seems clear sometimes in the face of the crisis going slow, methodic cal, rational. science based is not the same thing. it seems there needs to be a career, federal policy the states are consulted on and buy
into. and there still needs to be a leader of this movement. we now know ron klain is a czar, she a facilitator. they want to reassure the states and the public this is both a rational and aggressive policy that puts public safety first. >> sam stein, the inconsistencies continue. >> on the one hand, there is inconsistencies within the states then you have the consistency within the next what dod is doing. >> which is what each state, you'd expect them to have a different standard. you wouldn't expect the federal government. >> so the cdc came out with guidelines two days ago. they were fairly strict and my point the way i view it is this, everyone is going to adopt their own guidelines within the states. it's eevery one of them is understandable in their own right. there are points in where they
are not discouraging medical personnel in going over to africa. i think you are right, there should be some uniformity to these standards. it's getting confusing out there. >> between what one is saying. >> they're tackling two problems. one is they need to reassure the public that it's not this huge panic. ebola there is still only one person and secondly, they need to encourage health care workers to go to west affect. they're trying to grap him with those two products and thread the needle there. >> i understand, what the president says is inconsistent. >> there are a lot of inconsistencies, state officials say they will pursue legal action to enforce a quarantine, new jersey governor chris christie is using some of his toughest language yet to take on the cdc and those criticizeing
hick kaci hickox' treatment doctor it sounds like a quarantine to me and they don't want to admit they were wrong. >> it sounds like you will have to defend the in court. >> whatever. get if line. i have been sued lots of times in court. >> have you talked about the tent and those conditions? >> the tent was inside a hospital. it's called an isolation tent. shelves suspected to have ebola. the cdc was on the ground in the university hospital monitoring the condition she was in. there are all kind of pa larky, to put it nicely about this. she was inside the hospital in a climate controlled area with access to her cell phone, access to the internet and takeout food from some of the best restaurants in newark. she was doing just fine. >> wow. okay. digging in, we soak with mitt
rom fi, he thought maybe that was the bridge too far. i call it a bubble. >> everybody in america thinks it was too far. >> did they? >> chris christie is digging in, though, it's what he does. i think it would be very easy for him to say that maybe the officials there didn't handle it correctly. they put her in a tent. coming back from west africa, it was a bridge too far. i think most americans understand that. if he wants to dig in, he can dig in. very interesting, though, the nurse said she was going up to maine and do whatever she wanted to. and maine said, no, actually, you are not. >> so i don't think we're going to be seeing any photo ops with caskaci hickox and you make a gt point because west africa is still looking for volunteers. roughly they need 5,000 people and an international people. so if there is a morement-level
approach to protocol and the reality there might be a 21-day stint for people to go into quarantine. >> here's the reality. a lot of americans are just not confident but that's not that bad. somewhat if you put the somewhat in there. here's the biggest challenge. we got the send doctors to west africa. furss to west africa. you can go over there three weeks and four weeks and then you know that you got to add three more weeks when you come back to the united states. >> it's a hardship. >> wove got to figure out and i will say it again, mitt romney said it to us the other night. if that means the next company say it's them. that's fine. it is a false economy. say, we don't have enough money to ken st. people that go over to west africa. we either take care of it in west africa. it is the case here.
we take care of ebola or we will have to take care of it on a much larger scale. >> i didn't say it eloquently enough. there will be people that find it two aggressive or not aggressive enough. you can have a voluntary stay at home, a mandatory tent policy. >> i think andrew cuomo struck the right. >> i think these things are moving and evolving for a reason. public opinion is as well. you make the most valid point. unless you figure it out in west africa, we will never be 100% in the clear. we had to solve it four months ago. >> we want to get jeremy in here, the momentum appears to be with the republicans. a new abc news washington post poll reveals americans expect the gop to be taking control of
congress surrogates are flocking to battleground states, including colorado. jeb bush heads there tonight and governor chris christie dropped in on thursday both sides used women's health issues as a edge with. >> i thought i'd die when i read this. senator udall had overemphasized the social issues. he didn't ever say he was for a constitutional amendment. basically, to take away a woman's right to choose. i'm not for that anymore. everything is all right. i'm okay on letting women buy contraceptives. hello, that's been legal for several decades now.
>> like i said, there is a very low standard for what counts as moderate in the republican party. >> i'm not going to get bogged down in the contraception wars. even after being taken down by the denver post by being a one trick pony out of colorado. they continue that. let them continue it. let's broaden it out, though. maybe it's because i heard the last war and mitt romney was going to sweep to victory at the end. the pom was up by 11% i'm still a little skeptical, we can say the republican party is going to take control. you never know what will happen. we are still in all of these folds within the margin of error. what are you seeing out there? any trend lines? >> republicans are just as wary to make a bold prediction to the
set either. i have been talking to them all week. privately, they say they don't know what happened on election night. as you just said there are about ten states where these races are within four points each. we are going into election fight. you mention colorado there it's interesting. it appeared cory gardner was up over mark udall significantly. well, that race started to tighten. democrats believe if they get that race within two points, they can win it because they're already voting in colorado every has a ballot if democrats get that close, they think they can take it. >> that will be a bellwhether station to watch. >> it been a bellwhether state. kansas will be a state.
independent greg orman is actually leading senator pat roberts. that's by a couple points. but again mark halperin within the margin of error and the only thing i will hear republicans showing confidence is they're starting to pass around numbers about early voting. they're saying they're outperforming democrats in a lot of states but yet they're two points down if kansas of all states. kans kansas. >> joe, a lot of republicans say both new hampshire and north carolina are going to be tough for them to win unless there is a national time. you take those two off the table. put kansas in play push a lot of
them, they still are going to require the overtime to get the majority of the circumstances, right now, i don't think they would the people of putting odds of 60 people, they get breaks last week in the news, they'll hold if senate. >> mica, what i learned if 2012. it was quite a lesson. you know, i, the first big campaign that i remember was ronald reagan and it was tied on the weekend and there was this huge wave that swept reagan into power. 1994, my name was on the ballot. on friday, we were tied so you saw those waves and i thought along with a lot of republicans that a wave two years ago was going to make it a lot closer
tan it was the days people wake up and say, i will wake up and see ronald reagan. those days are over. it's ground game, getting people out early. if the democrat's organization machine is half as good today as it was two years ago, any republicans saying we will take the senate is a fool. maybe we will take the senate you want tell today. >> go ahead. >> that's one of the issues democrats have always had, they're running in states where that ground game did not exist. so they've had to build it from scratch in alaska and arkansas. in alaska, people are already voting there. the report i'm getting from the ground, although there was some irregularity, the lt. gov.'s office apparently has not been sending ballots to rural tribal
villages. they think it can give them an edge. i think you are right. we just don't foe water going to happen. >> yesterday mitt romney received a warm response when former presidential candidate bob deal called on him to run again. romney took an opportunity to take a jab at the president and later spoke to joe and me about the terms. >> look, a vote for greg orman is a vote for barak obama. united states should not make that mistake three times. let's vote pat roberts. >> everything is about getting more senators elected from my party so we can have a house and a senate that can pass bills to go to the -- >> do you think that will happen? >> i do. it's very close. it's hard to rick. we will pick up a lot of seats until we get the majority or not. i don't know. if we do, we will actually end
gridlock. we will pass bills. they will go to the president's desk. he will either veto them or sign them. things happen. with regard to energy, immigration. these things will finally be dealt with. there will be a law passed. you will end gridlock. >> much more with mitt romney, still ahead on "morning joe," senator sherod brown and gorm former governor ted strictland join us on the set. from ebola, if things were different if mitt romney were president? more with our presidential candidate in a bit. we ask the question, interesting, you went after him three times. >> yeah. >> who is that? >> what are you wearing, mitt? >> he wouldn't tell me. >> a few study finds gender equality will happen, just not for another 80 years. >> okay.
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suspect. >> oh, that's a good debate. the telegraph. gender equality is on the way, not until 2095. >> where do you think they came up with that football? >> what the heck? why, the gender gap has closed four points from 56 in 2006 to 60 today. at the current rate, it would take 81 years until a woman attends equal economic participation and opportunities. the formals found 'countries are not taking positive steps towards women's equality in the four areas it tracks. it politics health and education. it is a slow move around the world for sure. >> does that seem off? >> i think it's just america. >> i think it will speed up i think it's like a snowball going down the hill. if not, take your one a day. >> the kansas city star of the kansas city royals proved they would not go down without a
fight in the world series. kansas city scored seven runs, leaving the left up to the starting pitcher. oscar tavares, seven scoreless innings of three at ball t. royals shut out the giants 10-0. they set up a winner take all game seven. the finale will be tonight in kansas city t. home team get this has won each of the last nine world series game sevens. >> that's pretty amazing stuff. game seven, i'm not even going to ask thomas who he thinks will win. >> it will make it worth it. i might have switched. because if they win, it makes it worth it. >> exactly. >> they lost. >> the other big question is the giants manager go with madison bumgarner on two days rest. he's pitched lights out.
it's two days rest. who knows. >> this proves again like a lot of presidential campaigns in the primaries the world series more than any other sporting event is like catching lightning in a bottle. it really s. i had somebody say when you are unrunning a primary it's catching lightning in a bottle. this i think so just happen. in baseball, here you have a team that struggled to get into the playoffs. they win a one game basically winner go home against the as. they were behind in like the seventh inning probably wouldn't have pulled it out if the as had kept jon lester. the royals would have been sitting up the past couple weeks. then they sween the orioles. which nobody would have ever expected. then it's a pretty amazing
story. they will play for the world series in kansas city. >> that poor fan base has been waiting forever for in this is probably the most intense story in a long time. >> okay. the minneapolis -- >> no more sport. >> you know what mica is about to ask? >> go royals. >> let me explain. music icon prince will perform an unprecedented eight-minute jam session this week during his appearance on "saturday night live," instead of playing two musical sets. prince will lay for eight minutes without a commercial interruption. >> interesting. >> his performance will feature his all female band third eye girl. this marks the first time the artist has appeared on "snl" since 2006. the show will be hosted by "snl"
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>> fairs quick must read opinion page, conservatives are finally right, obama is not a dictator, he's a bystander. the washington post the conservatives have dropped their accusations he is an autocrat. instead they are calling him a weak leader, my colleague, cap cured the revised consensus when he wrote on friday the nation expects not miracles, but competence. let me seize the opportunity. i agree entirely with kraut hammer. i welcome conservatives. the real problem is not overreach but his tendency to be hands on. >> i have been saying for years, republicans on the one hand would be saying to me, oh, he's
a dictator he is going to come steal our sheep or whatever, it's big brother's black helicopters are going to land then they go, he's not smart enough to do the job. you can. >> either you are the emperor if "star wars" or george rchl banks. you can't be both. so it seems like they have made decision he is not evil. he is just incompetent. bottom line is there are a lot of democrats as well tow that are concerned about the lack of engagement and that isn't that possibly the challenge for a lot of democrats going into next week's race? >> it's not just those two washington post comments. there are washington liberals who say that privately. there are members of the administration who say it and democratic senators who say it. it is certainly i wouldn't say total consensus critique the dominant view amongst elites. the president, his defenders
would say he is thoughtful contemplative and a man of science and deliberation a. lot of people that supported the president, that's no longer enough to meet the challengers of the times. >> a lot of people are saying we should have invaded syria a year-and-a-half ago and invaded a muslim country. >> yes, thank you. >> sometimes it is better. like i said, styles fear is the appropriate response, there are other tiept, though, being more like a law professor is a measured response people say let's go to a muslim country and invade. >> i think with something as opposed to ebola, most people want to follow the fear of politics, that's a gut reaction. >> right is there then when you get educated about something leak that, it kind of changes your course. i think the president is going to get criticized. it's a dam if you do, dammed if you don't, no matter what.
>> i agree. >> lyndon b. johnson for president said if i went out on the totomy macand read i walked on water texas headline would read i can't swim. when it comes to the president, it's very hard for him. now at times i think the president should bring the thunder i do. but when it comes to the ebola crisis he is doing the right thing. >> what kind of things? >> especially when the government shut down took place, he hold his own. >> we have to remember it cost them almost 26 billion. set that money on fire. that's what they did. to continue to drive to the american people all the efforts he is trying to make to lift people. he had has the bull pit. there is god and the president of the united states of perk use that power. >> i would put the head coach at the university of alabama if between god --
>> no. >> we heard mark halperin has heard, there is a frustration that the president at times. i love what you said hasn't brought the thunder, whether you are running for secretary of state in middle america, you are deadlocked right now on the race. >> bring the thunder. >> are you bringing it. is he hurting. is it a future tral? >> i would love the president to come into ohio. he has a record to stand on. remind the american people of that. don't back down from it. she a leader. he built up all ohio if you remember. he bailed out the auto industry. one of every eight jobs are linked to the auto industry in ohio. the president need to step up and talk about his record. when he talks about his reported, he engages the citizens of this country. they are on his side. >> i am also from ohio. >> he wants you in ohio.
>> seriously, how hard is it? how hard is it? >> i voted for the president of the united states of america. i voted for president barak obama and i'm proud of it. >> so is that a thunder cloud i heard? >> here's where it's interesting about nina. i had no idea. >> that's what's so interesting. >> before she came out here. if she is elected, you will be only one of three african-american women elected to america. >> fina turner, thank you so much. >> we got to do better, joe. >> cluck. great to see you again. we'll be right back with much more morning joe. ♪ .
. >> did you find your family? mitt romney's name is being tossed around with nostalgia as a potential candidate to run in 2016. we asked him about that and the president's leader ship overseas and here at oem. >> the president has been as charles krauthammer has been the specttator if chief rather than the commander-in-chief. whether it's the va or the irs or the implementation of obamacare or the cdc with regards to putting in place the protocols for ebola. >> isn't it shocking to you that the cdc run by a lot of competent professionals, they don't have the protocols straight. >> that i don't have them consistent. it seems like the rules are changing every week. >> sometimes an enterprise doesn't have the mission they don't think to deal with a particular setting. then the leader steps in and says before a crisis occurs and says, look, we are cutting through the normal process, this
is critical. here's what i want you to do. he'll say, now we don't have authority. now you do. you have seen governors do that you saw any time there is a natural disaster. you see a governor step in say, here's what we will do, here's what fema will do, what our states will do. >> you actually saw it with andrew cuomo and chris christie. andrew cuomo is saying there needs to be a 21-day quarantine if somebody's house, do you agree with that position? >> i think i'm on the side of better safe tan sorry. i'd probably say, look, let's take every possible precaution. it touches our heart people have to spend a lot of time if they go over and do fate two or three months to help people that need health care in western africa. within they come back, we'd like them to take another 21 days to be in quarantine. we pay compensate you for that time. make sure you get all the food you feed and the elements you need, we want to be really safe.
>> that makes sense him would you put a nurse in the mobile? >> i don't know what that means. i know we are feeling our way here. but i think people recognize you don't want to have the spread of ebola. numberally, this is something they should have had protocols in place. the president should have been the one saying you guys will do this. get in there. i don't care what the authority is you think you need to have. this is something you need to do. >> do world leaders do what that can? >> i know those individuals i have spoken with are looking for american leadership. they want to see america involved in the world. that doesn't mean going around blowing people up. it means trying to shape events through diplomacy, through check
power. through cajoleing and personal relationships. they want to see america on the. >> let's look at our economy. how would you rate what the president has done, what are some of the good things you have seen, how do we get wages to move? >> i have to tell you of the economy, i think the president has been spectator in chief. there was a promise must in place. there is not much since then that encouraged the economy to grow. the additional regulatory layer encouraged more lending by the banks. >> some say he was stopping the dykes. >> the $700 billion to save the
banks which was highly controversial. the economy had stabilized. the financial system had stabilized be i the time president obama took office. his charge was to get the economy going again. it continues to bump along. we have a record number of people who dropped out of the work force. that's a tragedy for them him people remain in poverty. the president campaigned on reducing poverty. he was concerned about the physical gap and the physical gap has gotten worse, not better. >> you would raise the minimum wage. >> i'm one of those that makes sense. >> there are three of us in the party. >> no, it will go up from time to time. it's a question, it's not going to stay as it is forever. it goes up from time to time. i actually said when i was governor, i'd link it to the inflation rate and perhaps be able to put it on pause and link
it to the inflation rate so businesses don't have to look at a huge jump in wages which would then disrupt their enterprise but could see it coming on a gradual basis. >> what would it take for you to at least consider sitting down with anne and saying, listen, honey. >> a lot. >> this is something that we didn't think we would ever do again. seriously, because this isn't about you. this is about the party. this is about the country what would it take? >> win 2014. the elections are completed. all the worry about people say who will run, will we be able to cap cure the white house again? that whole dramatic shift is going to occur. some people will arise, some will dwindle off. right now he's the guy that ran it last time. he's going to do it again? well, there will be other new faces that will step forward. we will get a chance to see them, see how they do. i have nothing to add about my
own. i'm not running, i'm not planning on running. i'm not going to add to the story beyond that. >> if not you, then who? >> i'm here in ohio, rob portman, john casic. those are two people here in one state. >> it's great to see you always. >> my car, good to see you. >> take me riding again. i'd go. that was so much fun. >> have you ever been on a horse, joe? >> i have. >> yes, i have. its quite a sight. >> are your legs dragging on the ground? >> we'll get you a big one if you come our way. >> he was very nice. >> nice. >> and actually, before he did some stuff on stage yesterday, my mom called and they talked on the phone. >> pretty remarkable. >> my mom likes him very much. >> she has moved on mitt romney. >> they were chatting. i had to pull the phone away
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>> that's good stuff. coming up at the top of the hour, a question for you. is the quarantine of casey hick kaci hickox becoming a bigger issue? leaders are weighing in on how to keep americans safe from ebola. but the tactics we see here used in new jersey and maybe maine is it going a step too far? "morning joe" returns to the university. ohio campus after this. out comp. to be more powful... and, miraculously, unleash 46 mpg highway. an extravagance reserved for the privileged few. until now. hey josh! new jetta? yeah. introducing lots of new. the new volkswagen jetta tdi clean diesel. isn't it time for german engineering? twhat do i do?.
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paperback and hard back. let start with theifies, this morning, there are unanswered questions of how to deal with americans potentially exposed to ebola. you just heard from president obama, who is making it clear he doesn't support measures tan by a handful of governors, including chris christie, to quarantine health workers returning from west affect. he did, however, seem to support tougher rules for members of the military deployed to countries where the virus is spreading. he says it's restricted to more stricter conditions is there we got to make sure those workers who are willing and able and dedicated to go over there in a really tough job, that they're applauded, thanked and supported. the military is in a different situation, obviously, because they are, first of all, naat treating patients. second of all, they are there voluntarily. it's a part of their mission that's been assigned to them by
their commanders and ultimately by me the commander in chief. >> i ask you and i will ask chris matthews, when you talk about inconsistency when between what the president said, about the military, he's condemning chris christie and cuomo, that's the latest example in inconsistencies from the world health organization, from the cdc, from the federal government, from state governments, there's growing frustration out there. why is it so hard for government to do their job efficiently. >> some of it is the government response hagan fragmented. we need to reorganize government. >> it's also been reactive. it hasn't been proactive. >> they just didn't see it coming. >> i'm not an expert on it. i must say up to a week ago, ron klain was working for me. i wish he'd hire somebody else.
we wanted to keep him at revolution. he is a great guy. i think he will do a great job. the broader issue on ebola is there needs to be a fresh look at how government has been organized. the reason there are more of these so-called czars is things are fragmented. in the business side, there is a commerce department, separate from the small business administration, separate from the trade representative. we need to take a fresh look at how this is organized. even when it was proposed to create a few department of business, congress said we don't want to do that. the people in congressped to protect their roles and different committees so i think we need to take a fresh look at government. ebola is ruled out. it not just these specific issues we need to band aid. it's a broader systemic effort to make government be more efficient. >> it seems to me the presidential candidate either in 16 or 20, whatever point can convince americans he or she can
make american government mohr efficient wins in a big way. we can talk about the response, the va the irs. we can talk about the nsa. we can go off the list during george bush's eight years, katrina or abu greater bay or bad intel before 9/11 or the iraq war, americans are losing faith in government and some republicans think that's a good thing. post-don't. post-want to believe their deposit can do big things right. >> reporter: yeah, joe, you got out of there wage the democrats or the government party, for better or worse they believe in federal government. they believe government can solve the problems going from civil rights to space travel it's is federal government.
i wonder why democrats don't take it seriously. why don't we have a top kick who can fire people. remember when stockman ratted out reagan about the numberings that didn't add up. jim baker called him into the wood shed. it was very organized. you knew who the boss was. people have to see how government works before they believe it will work. will is for the way to see into this administration positively and see how it works why wasn't ron klain out there fighting as the czar? if he was going to be the chief executive, why wasn't he out on point? they have to see how it works before they believe that it works. that itself check. who is running the white house right now? >> chris christie gets a call and doesn't hear from the white house. what is that about? it's unclear, i think we have two structures, one is klain of
command, we have a strong chain of command. it's clear, or have you spokes in the wheel like jack kennedy, the president is talking to everybody, in the military in the cuban missile crisis who has his hands on everything of of these is the model barak obama is using? is he hands on? >> i have a follow-up question for me. it is shocking to me the brought of the united states if i were the commander-in-chief. one time on capitol hill. this chairman crosses him every other week, whether it's ground troops in syria, whether it's isis. you go up there flossing the president again. he is saying something on capitol hill that's in line with what chris christie is doing in
uj into. you are right. there doesn't seem to be ford nation there. i think going into the election that probably doesn't do democrats who are in trouble much on favor. >> i agree. >> okay. there you go. >> all right. let look at the mid-terms. there is not much optimism coming through and governmental leadership. 72% of people describe the nation's economy in negative terms according to washington post and abc news. nearly the same number think the country is going down the wrong track six out of ten have lost trust in the government to do water right and the majority think the federal government's ability too deal with the country's problems has grown worse if recent years. >> steve i want to go back to
this first one with you. let's go back to the first chart where most americans think the economy is headed in the wrong direction. if i were a democrat running, i'd say we've had over 50 months of economic growth. when the property got in. this was the situation. now, this is the situation. we are below 6% in unemployment. the numbers that we see, wall street doing better tan ever before. we know there is a big disconnect between wall street and pane street. it seems as to me this president and the democrats have a pretty good narrative to follow, but americans aren't feeling it. >> i think that's right, the markets have been strong, the last few years have been strong. you say the jobs footballs have been improving consistently. but part of the problem is the piddle class feels left out. there are a lot of people in silicon valley or fork city doing well, creating a lot of wealth. we are not creating lot of jobs part of the focus is on the
entrepreneurs. i visit id nine cities, detroit, pittsburgh, estate and nashville and minneapolis and des moines and kansas city, st. louis, a bunch of cities, all with great start-up communities. most media don't tow what's happening. most investors aren't getting on planes, if we can invest in those communities, create jobs in those communities, i think this economy will be felt much more broadly across the country. not just on the coast. >> let's get some polls on this. the latest polls actually got a quinnipiac poll, connecticut looks deadlocked. >> another state deadlocked. >> absolutely. we have been watching the state wide races looking for the senate. with less than a week to do, the momentum appears to be with republicans. a new washington post poll reveals americans expect the gop
to take control of congress by a margin of 13 points. sur sursurrogates are flocking to key states. jeb bush heads there tonight. governor christie drops in thursday. congressman cory gardner. both sides have used women's health issues as a wedge and bill clinton did not mince words when it came to gardner. >> i thought i'd die when i read this, senator udall overemphasized the socialists. he never said he was for a constitutional amendment, basically take away a woman's right to choose so his o.with the is an attractive guy says i'm not up for that anymore. everything is all right. i'm okay on letting women buy contraceptives. hello, that's been legal for several decades now.
like i said there is a very low standard for what counts as moderate in the republican party. >> in kansas independent greg orman is shown leading pat roberts. we have that brand-new quinnipiac poll out moments ago. a dead heat. . there is a clear gender gap with women, but trailing foley by 17 points with men. malloy is under water. foley has 43%, both favorable and unfavorable. >> hey, chris, these races, whether you are in texas, kansas, colorado, they are all so close. i'm skeptical of either party
saying that they got it. >> i don't see any trend lines, do you see any? >> i tell people, pay attention to the 7:00. if kentucky comes in too close to call against mitch mcconnell, democrats may not face a blowout. if you wait until 8:00 you see that one is too close to call with scott brown, if scott brown pulse this upset. look out that night. tuesday fight could be the sweep fight. i think there is a possibility of an 8 to 10 seat pickup. >> that that make sense? >> of course, it makes sense, chris matthews said it. you can, though, on presidential nights early on when kentucky comes into a big one way or another or certain races come if early, then you can tell him i
got to say, though, jeremy peters, new hampshire, you got a democratic candidate in jean shaheen who is stunned and she really is. casey hunt says she is stunned that scott brown could actually beat her. i think chris is right. if new hampshire goes republican, it is going to be a terrible night for democrats across the country. >> chris is absolutely right. that's what democrats and republicans are saying they will be watching on election fight to see how new hampshire goesz goes. if it goes for scott brown, it will be a brutal fight for democrats. another one to watch is north carolina, that's a tight race kay hagen looked look she was running away with that. in the last few day, it looks like it's grown closer, if democrats take that as well, it looks like a good night for
them, to. what you have is sort of a strange situation. the democratic party is in a lot of trouble. obama's approval ratings are in the toilet as we talked about many, many times this morning. but that still hasn't given republicans the edge you would expect them to have this year when they are running in states that they have such an advantage in, in the south and other deep places. >> if you told me in the election cycle republicans would be struggling in north carolina, struggling in georgia, it would still be neck and neck in louisiana and arkansas. i would tell you, that is a very good democratic year. i won't make my republican friends happy saying that. there is no way any of those races should be close with barak obama having in those particular states approval ratings in the 20s. >> that speaks volumes about where the republican party sits. >> let's look at the quinnipiac
polling, a few poll which is giving us a deep dive the iowa senate race that shows the state senator joni ernst inching ahead of bruce braley. he's at 45%. that's just outside the par jen of error. today's result, showing independent voters, joni ernst has been a dynamic candidate to get a lot of attention off her campaign ads. >> you know, is mark halperin still around? >> i'm here. >> i'm take that as a yes. >> a nice delay. >> it's also, i talked about how republicans are underperforming in the south as far as i'm concerned. they should be doing much better. barak obama is in the 20s. here have you an iowa, joni ernst up in most polls, of course, the democratic candidate is flawed in many ways.
at the same, she's a gd candidate and in a wave year everybody gets swept in, here, it's much more patchwork. it's real if iowa. republicans at this point probably have to win three out of four. iwhat, arkansas. colorado and alaska. today, it's not a sure thing. ernst at this point along with to him cotton are the two best bets of those four. >> i understand your point from earlier the reason we don't feel there is a wave the countries becomes so polarized. will is a small group of independents that can go one way or the other. what that means is the campaigns come down to get out the vote operations. can you get your side to the polls? if you can, you win.
i know it seems cliche. really in a polarized world, that is essential to any election. >> one week out, there is no doubt that getting out the vote, this is a go tv race. >> publicly. >> whoever gets the vote out wins. we have no idea who that will be. here's a bigger problem about leadership. we showed mitch mcconnell's approval ratings were upsidedown. i think he's minus 11. we had a boy who is governor of connecticut, he is minus ten. minus 11. the governor of florida rick scott started with a 35% approval rating. just a question, in a political world where millions of dollars like this guy tom tillis if he wins, he's had 26 million in negative ads. democrats can say the same thing
in other states. how do you lead? can you imagine going in taking over a corporation on the first thing you took over a corporation two-third of the people on the board were against her? no, this is a serious question. how does anybody in walk or the governor's mansions lead in this poisonous environment? >> i think he had some restriction, he merged with time warner. >> i grabbed the bulk of the sweater here. >> that's the issue. >> it's a reminder there. >> homicide is one of america's greatest entrepreneurs. they said vision, execution and hallucination. having a plan is right. you got to be able to execute. that's about people. that ultimately is about building the trust. part of the problem of politics, the people. we have seen more of this hollowing out of the center. people don't trust each other and american people are getting fed up with it. i think right now on tuesday, if there was a vote for republicans
or democrats or none of the above. none of the above would win, hopefully, whatever happened on tuesday, on wednesday, we'll start governing. two years ago when mitt rom filost the next day, john boehner said we have to work together, pass immigration reform. they did. it's true on both sides. we got to deal with these issues. make sure we're competitive. >> do you ever think about running for office when are you a kid? i just wonder, though, because a follow up question if you said yes was if you ever imagine running today i don't know any talented people that would put their family through this. >> my entrepreneurs i think the people in government or non-profits, both of which are important, particularly entrepreneurs creating the start-up, improving education,
revolutionizing health care and changing transportation i agree, it's gotten tougher. you got to get people to work together if a bipartisan way. we will not remain a magnet for talent. they are big issues him it can't be about talking points. it has to be about working together if government. >> one of the reasons we are here today. you will be looking at the middle market summit i take it. so. >> it's great ge has invited over a to you ceos. mostly as mid-size companies, tens of millions if revenue. they are doing great things in terms of creating jobs. it's not just what happens on the coasts if terms of business and entrepreneurs. it's all over the country and supporting the communities and celebrating what they're doing is critically important. a lot of infoization for example here in columbus and a lot of
places like that him we feed to make sure these communities rise. >> that will create more jobs and make us a stronger more diversified company. >> steve case, chris matthews, thank you as well. >> what else would you watch? >> i have to turn on hardball. i puter around and listen to chris. i love it. >> you know what i do, i record chris and then i just but it on a loop. i sleep to that voice. >> it's such a good show. still ahead. >> there is no other show you should watch at night. >> he captures the spirit of the day. >> also coming up. for rob partman and ted strickland will join us. up next, are you being wauvened by the u.s. postal service? why tens of thousands of americans are having their mail monitored. i am sick of all this mail. really? all this jumping mail. and are they monitoring it? we'll have that story i know what you're thinking...
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spl split. nice. >> thank you. >> i love it. >> all right. mica. now it's time to read. >> out loud. >> the morning papers. and you read it so i can eat. >> usa today, the u.s. postal service has approved the mail under surveillance of 49,000 customers last year at the request of law enforcement agencies. this is interesting. according to an audit, the under surveillance was if connection with criminal and national security investigations. the audit also found many requests were approved without written authorization and 13% of requests did not have reasonable grounds. okay. we will follow that story. thomas, you next. >> okay. the business insider, a few report suggests that persons are working themselves to the bone and it is costing them billions of dollars. a study from the u.s. travel association says americans lost nearly $53 billion due to unused vacation time last year. >> this is amazing.
>> that's an average of $054 per worker. they say many are consumed with what will happen if they take time away from work and refrain from taking time off. >> the study found if they went to taking off per year it would take away from the u.s. economy. >> i got it. >> i will have that. >> we can tone it in like three seconds. he set a land speed record. >> that guy on the muppets who lived in the trash can. >> thank you so much. >> from joni ernst earlier this year. take a look. >> i'm joni ernst. i grew up castrateing hogs, so
when i get to washington, i know how to cut pork. my parents taught to us live within our means. it's time to force washington to do the same. to cut wasteful spending. repeal obamacare. i approve this message because washington is full of big spenders. let's make them squeal. >> all right. the chief financial correspondent for the new york times magazine mark lebowitz. >> it's entitled the bumpkinification of the mid-term elections. >> how did you get that one through? >> are you calling joni ernst a bumpkin. >> specifically, i'll calling candidates across the country. there is a wave towards portraying themselves as close to the bone as possible at a
time that you talked about in your last secment when there is very little trust in government, in leadership, certainly in washington. i think the strategy is joni ernst is prove income iowa, certainly portraying herself as earth away as possible is an old american tradition you are seeing it placed on steroids in this cycle. >> does it work in every state or is this confined to our more agorian places? >> i it's the farther you move from the coast, the more you will find it. i think what often happens is you have a lot of the media consultants who are obviously probably as powerful as ever because there is so much money in the system. they're sitting in new york, washington or l.a. or something. you see the portrayal of middle america as people in new york and walk and l.a. see it and i this i that, again, with all the money in the system this time, you see it emphasized all the
more. >> but iowa, in iowa, it certainly, joanie's ad actually broke through and is one of the reasons a lot of people think she won the primary. obviously, you will not win a general election unless you are talented. certainly, it worked. >> oh, absolutely. look. there is an old ancient tradition, darryl wilson the historian called at this time glorification of the am sure and disdain for the professional if politics. you see it back with our founders who envisioned a citizen leadership and, again, there is so little faith in institutions these days, especially in this white house, in today's washington, i mean, as we were just talking about with steve case and the full panel, i mean, it's a very, very, very anti-establishment dynamic. the more you can prove are you and the anti-side of that the
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show this morning. this is why we are here. >> christine, you have been doing this for years, tell me how the economy has changed. have you seen a big difference? >> absolutely. so, four years ago, we were just coming out of the vooifs cries. so the pood was a little somber. today, look at this energy back here. we will learn today these middle mark companies that represent only 3% of the total number of firms in the states, these firms generate 60% of all jobs created. >> 66% of job growth. >> define market growth. >> middle market, we have a partnership with ge capital to research the middle market. companies between 10 billion if revenue, they generate a third of the gdp. >> we talk about small businesses or the corporations, but it sounds like this is again
these 3% of these companies really are the heart beat of the economy right now. >> there's 45 million jobs. they provide job growth. in 2013, two-third came from the middle park. in 2014, we expect that to be a middle number. >> talk about statistics show they don't have faith. yet you had to see a huge change over the past four years for people coming to you asking to borrow.. four years ago, everybody was retracting. everybody was clenched up. i got to think things are dramatically different if 2014. >> things are better. when you look at the survey results, you see the optimism. two-30 of the company are investing. >> there is optimistic mid-market. >> and hiring and running commitment at capacity. >> there is challenges.
what would you say the key challenges are at this point moving forward? >> we've had a lot of discussion with our customers about the challenges, two that really come up, one are the concern about the cost of health care and the complexity with all the changes, how do they navigate the changes and provide employees health care at an affordable level. it's hard to find qualified people. they're looking. they're trying to find well with kills. that's a calgary. >> can i ask you about health care specifically with this obamacare over time they will deal with insurance. do you see those trends starting to take place as more companies put them on that that obama park place? >> we had a seminar yesterday afternoon, we had about 100 come to specifically talk about the changes happening in the marketplace.
people are moving there. they're forming. it's a little bit early to say that everything is going to transition to that exchange that's one of the challenges. how do they navigate that change? >> if we put up here, some of the things you all have found, one the cost of health care, two the cost of doing business. three the ability of continuing to grow revenue. five, uncertainty of how government actions will impact business. six the ability again that we were talking about to attract train and retain talent. >>. what are you guys doing in this conference to help address a lot of those issues? >> you will see in this audience 2,000 students that will be new yorkering in physically here. this is not a coincidence that this event happens on this campus every year. we have thousands and thousands
of well trained students, waiting to go into the marketplace and that's what we're all about is these public private partnerships are about a future for our students. >> certainly it looks much brighter tan years ago. >> thank you so much. enjoy the day. this is really an incredible events. we will be doing something after the show with the audience there. you can watch the entire middle market live this morning on our website. morningjoe.msnbc.com. thanks to you both. oh, this is going to be fun. thomas roberts standing by with the mayor of columbus. >> there you go. this is really exciting. >> i have actually come downstairs, to my old buddy brutus. i will introduce you later. sir, this is exciting to have the meeting from the middle
convention taking place here, what makes your city so special? >> columbus means business him we're the largest city in the state of ohio. you can fit cleveland and cincinnati in the city of columbus. what makes it special is the economic i politics of our city. we're the center of the state. you need ohio to win the white house. you really need columbus to when ohio. >> so we know nobody gets to pennsylvania avenue without traveling to ohio? it a true contender for the dnc? >> we are an hour-and-a-half dnc and city of columbus. we can handle it. we're excited about i. imagine the republican conviction in cleveland. the democratic commission in columbus. ohio again becomes the center of the universe for national politics. >> you think it will help with your sizzle reel when you put "morning joe" on there.
>> absolutely. we love "morning joe." . >> thank you for hosting us in your lovely city. we will talk to you after the break. much more from the ohio state university. this is the mayor of the city, michael coleman, here in columbus. we are back here with much more after this on "morning joe." [ applause ] [ music playing ]
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for the centers for american progress action fund ted strickland's. good to have you on. >> first of all, rob, senator, the next time you come on "morning joe," you have to wear a university of alabama sweatshirt. >> i appreciate that loyalty to ohio state. thank you. >> sorry about your team this year. >> there is nothing to be sorry ability. we're going to win the national championship. that's what we do. all right. so i want to talk two things. first i want to talk about economics and politics. i will talk to the governor next. first, let's talk politics. ohio obviously the center of the country. a lot of good things are happening. unemployment under 6%. yet you got 27% of americans. they think we're headed in the height direction. what is the state of ohio's economy right now? we are doing better on unemployment and job creation.
we are facing the same state wins, the business leaders, taxes, health care, energy, how we deal with trade and exports. >> washington falls down. >> so all americans feel better if your unemployment rate is 5.6%. >> there are more people who have left the work force tan joined the work force. for every one person that's gotten a job, right now among men, we have the lowest labor participation rate than the fine 40s. among men and women, it goes back to the fine 70s. we don't want to repeat the years. it's not as good as the numbers show. frankly, people are there for good reason. >> do you agree, that's not the real unemployment rate? i think the minimum wage plays into this as much. >> mica, the last time i saw you and joe, we were at ar vard at the kennedy school and it's good to know that you are at the
harvard of the mid-west this morning the great ohio state university. now, let me say to you that the fact is, the fact is that unemployment has come down in ohio. a recent study indicated most of the jobs that have been created were low pay minimum wage jobs and we do feed to raise the minimum wage. this recovery has not benefitted the vast middle class. it as benefitted the wealthiest among us. we need a program that will put average people if good paying jobs. that's what our plan has to be if we are really going to get out of this doldrum that we are in. >>ier by peters wants to jump into the conversation. take it. >> good morning, for portman. i had a question for you. we were talking earlier about the closeness of all these senate races and the fact that none of the really tight ones have decisively broken for republicans. i wonder what you attribute that
to. would you guys be if a better position if the republican party had a better standing with the american people right now? >> i don't have you in my earpiece, i didn't hear much what you said. can you repeat it? >> why hasn't the races been broken? >> you look at southern states where barak obama's approval ratings are in the 20s. we are deadlocked in carolina and georgia and arkansas, we should be doing a lot better, shouldn't we? >> i don't think we are deadlocked him i think we are up five points. a real fear of politics. it will be a 50-58 i 48 results. in some of these states, we were badly outspent. we are starting to catch up now. democrats did a good job of raising money but bottom line the worst is, though, if
republicans get elected to the senate if they take control of the senate, what's their mandate, stopping barak obama or is there a positive mandate? >> i think what we feed to do is show we can govern. if we get this majority, which i believe we will. the enthusiasm is on our side. if you look at who is likely to vote, it's more likely republicans. once we get elected we have to do stuff. >> like what? >> getting this economy doing. what specifically? >> three things we have done in the first month. ready for this, first a comprehensive pack only on energy. the biggest project if america next year. let's go ahead with it. it makes us energy dependent. let's combine that with energy efficiency and permitting projects. second, 96 to energy, tax reform. the president talks a lot about the fact that companies are taking jobs overseas, we want to stop it, too. what the president proposed
isn't going to help, it will make it worse. let's deal with the problem, the highest corporate tax rate in the world among third countries. >> water the third thing? >> let's do something on regulation to increase. you saw this in some of the surveys here. there's a lot we can do because there's a bipartisan consensus on the fact we need to do a better job. i mean, these are things that are simple and easy to do. >> governor strickland, we should give you the same question too. >> we live in parallel universes. the fact is, need a major infrastructure rebuilding program in this country. that is something that both parties used to agree on and should agree on. the president has put forward a job package that has not been acting on. even in ohio, we took a major step backward with our renewable
standards. there's much that needs to be done. let me say a word about the senate races. i don't think anyone knows who's going to come out the winner. these races are razor thin. i think it's going to be perhaps the most exciting election night, in terms of not knowing the outcome beforehand, that we've had in a long time. we may not know who controls the senate until early january when a possible runoff in georgia takes place. so this is an exciting time. the people are getting engaged and i think -- i think the democratic party's going to fare pretty well in this election. >> all right. all right, governor strickland, thank you so much. rob portman, as always, great to see you. still ahead, it's great to be at the ohio state university. the ohio state university. what do america's youngest voters think about the country? >> and up next, "the new york times" reports the lead
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so, you know, mika, they say you probably shouldn't have inmates guarding the prison. >> right. >> that sort of pertains to our next story here with the secret service. >> all right, it's not good. >> new allegations of pros prostitution for the secret service. "the new york times" citing sources, reporting that the investigator who led the internal review of the 2012 scandal in colombia resigned after he was implicated in a separate incident. authorities in florida reportedly saw david neland leaving a building that was under surveillance in a prostitution sting. during an interview, a sex worker claimed he had paid her for sex. the man denied the allegations and he's never been charged with a crime. he did resign in
declining to answer questions about the problem. let's leave it there. >> no, sam has a question. >> anyone who is associated with this episode who can have sex without paying for it? i feel like it needs to be answered. >> a question a lot of people are asking. just don't take out the checkbook, try. >> up next, chris christie doubles down. >> he just said that, he did. he said just try a little harder. >> i'm trying to move on and help you all out of the hole you dug. >> -- wasn't helpful with the probe -- >> okay. up next, chris christie doubles down on his criticism of the cdc and how his state is handling the ebola crisis. six days out and plenty of uncertainty leading up to election day. latest polls next. you're watching "morning joe" live from columbucolumbus. alright guys. the usual. double wings, extra ranch.
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of an unmanned rocket exploding in virginia, just seconds after taking off for the international space station. >> i thought that happened in the 1950s. i saw "the right stuff." i thought we got past that. >> 14 stories high, this rocket was. no one on the ground was hurt. in what is now the first accident since nasa began using private companies to deliver equipment into space. >> mika, i'm just looking at the shot here. there's an amazing shot. i think we're going to need armed, like, guards, the next time we cross a line and go into michigan. >> what? >> look at us wearing this gear, huh. >> we are buckeyes today. >> we are buckeyes, that's right. >> good morning. it's wednesday, october 29th. we're here at the ohio university. companies that created, by the
way, 70% of all the new jobs in the u.s. last year alone -- >> by the way, just to break it down, everybody's talking about small businesses. we of course want to figure out what's happening with the economy. what better place than to come here? you've got small businesses, midsized markets. they have somewhere between $10 million in profits -- and then of course you've got the larger companies. 70% of new jobs created by these types of companies. they've got a lot of concerns about the economy. there's a new poll out we'll be talking about. a "washington post" poll that talks about how a lot of americans still very concerned about where this economy's going. >> this, less than a week before the midterm's with us on set. we have senior political editor and white house correspondent for the huffington post, sam stein. >> the campus, it looks beautiful, looks beautiful. >> in new york, managing editor of politics, mark halperin.
in washington, "new york times" reporter jeremy peters, along with thomas, joe and me. hi, thomas. >> morning. >> you saw the campus? >> it's great, brutus was downsta downstairs, i showed him my imitation. also, it's the ohio state university, not the ohio state university. >> did i not say that? >> you said the ohio state university. >> you can take the girl out of the south of france but you can't take the south of france out of the girl. we've been talking a lot about the last four weeks of the elections. it's really a tossup. i don't care what republicans say, i don't care what democrats says, it is still a tossup. a lot of how next week goes depends on how the president is seen handling -- this was like ebola and isis and -- yesterday, certainly, the general feeling is he dropped the ball again on ebola. >> well, we'll see. this morning, there's definitely -- in his comments, there's still a lot of
unanswered questions about how to deal with americans potentially exposed to ebola. president obama is making it clear he doesn't support measures taken by a handful of governors, including chris christie to quarantine workers returning from west africa. he did, however, seem to support tougher rules for countries where the virus is spreading. he said the nation's troops are accustomed to more restrictive conditions. >> we have to make sure those workers who are will and able and dedicated to go over there in a really tough job, that they're applauded, thanked and supported. >> military's a different situation, obviously, because they are, first of all, not treating patients. second of all, they are not -- they're not there voluntarily. it's part of their mission that's been assigned to them by their commanders and by me, the commander in chief. >> it's hard to figure out exactly what the president of
the united states is saying there. first of all, he's condemning chris christie and andrew cuomo for a policy his own government's implementing. when asked why, he said, because they're not treating patients. that would mean there would be less of a need to quarantine him. and it seemed like, again, there were two standards there from a president who, at the same time, was saying we must make all decision, about quarantining and about handling ebola and based on science. this has nothing to do with science, nothing to do with medicine. it looks like the president was once again caught in yet another inconsistency. i'm just stunned we still can't get a consistent policy on any of these things. >> it seeps pretty clear both politically and substantively, as much as the president likes to cling always to science. sometimes going slow, methodi l methodical. it still seems to be there should be a clear federal policy the states are consulted on.
there still needs to be a leader of this movement. we now know that ron klain was not supposed to be a czar. he's an internal facilitator and coordinator. i think there needs to be a federal leader of this effort. that would reassure the public. this is both a rational policy and puts public safety first. >> inconsistencies continue. >> yes, for the one hand, there's inconsistencies within the states. different states, different quarantine policies. then the consistency in the federal government, what dod is doing, versus cdc -- >> you wouldn't expect the federal government -- >> yeah, so the cdc came out with guidelines two days ago and they were fairly strict but not as strict as certain states are going. my point, the way i view it is this, everyone is going to adopt their own guidelines to this policy within the states. everyone of them is understandable in their own
right. in terms of not discouraging medical personnel from going over to west africa. yeah, i think you're right, there should be some uniformity to these standards. it's getting a little confusing out there. >> i'm talking specifically between what the president's saying and what the military's doing. >> this is what i'm getting from the white house, which is they're tackling two problems. one is they need to reassure the public that it's not this huge panic, that ebola's not -- there's still only one person who's infected with ebola currently in the united states. secondly, they need to encourage health care workers to go to west africa. they're trying to grapple with two problems and thread a needle when it comes to the quarantine -- >> i understand that. what the president said yesterday is inconsistent with what the president is doing with his own government with the military. >> meanwhile, state officials in maine say they will pursue legal action if necessary to enforce a home quarantine for nurse casey
hick hickox. using some of his toughest language yet, taking on the cdc. >> health care workers can't go in public place, on public transportation, and they'd like them to work from home. sounds like a quarantine to me and sounds like they don't want to admit they're wrong. >> sounds like you're going to have to defend this in court. >> waver. i've been sued lots of times before. get in line. i'll be happy to take you on. >> -- the intent of those conditions -- >> the tent was inside a hospital. it's called an isolation tent. because she needed to be isolated. because she was suspected to have ebola. no, i had no concerns. by the way, neither did cdc, on the ground, in university hospital, monitoring the conditions she was in. all kinds of malarkey, nicely, about this. she was inside the hospital, in a controlled area, with access to her cell phone, access to the internet and takeout food from the best restaurants. she was doing just fine. >> wow. okay. digging in.
we spoke with mitt romney and he thought maybe that was a bit too far -- i call it a bubble. >> everybody in america thinks it was too far. >> do they? >> chris christie is digging in though. it's what he does. i think it would be very easy for him to say maybe the officials there didn't handle it correctly. they put her in a tent coming back from west africa. it was a bridge too far. i think most americans understand that. but if he wants to dig in, he can dig in. very interesting though, this nurse said she was going to maine and do whatever she wanted to do and maine said no, actually, you're not. >> i don't think we're going to be seeing any photo opens with casey hick ox and what we saw with christie and the president hugging it out -- >> and we're not going to see her in a bowling alley. >> not any time soon. west africa still looking for volunteers. they need up to 5,000 people. the international community to come and help with the crisis. if there is a more multilevel
approach to protocol and what it means on the back end and the reality there might be some type of 21-day stint for people to go into some type of quarantine. that's the reality. >> the most important thing we have to do and a lot of americans just not confident -- but -- actually, that's not that bad -- >> somewhat and very. >> if you put the somewhat in there. here's the biggest challenge. we've got to send doctors to west africa. we've got to send nurses to west africa. >> -- making a sacrifice -- >> go other there for four weeks and then you've got to know you've got to add three more weeks when you come back to the united states -- >> that's a hardship. >> and we've got to figure out, and i will say it again, mitt romney said it to us last night, if that means the federal reserve compensates them, that's fine. it is a false economy to say, oh, we don't have enough money to cop pen say the people that go over to west africa. we either take care of it in west africa, i'll use the old terrorism thing. it is the case here.
we either take care of ebola in west africa or have to be taking care of it on a much larger scale in europe and north america. >> i didn't say it eloquently but no matter what your quarantine policy is, there are people who will find it too aggressive or not aggressive enough. you could have a voluntary, mandatory tent policy -- >> i think andrew coupuomo stru the right -- >> i think these things are mowing and evolving, public opinion is evolving as well. unless you're going to figure it out in west africa, we'll never be 100% in the clear here. we have to solve the situation in west africa. >> want to get jeremy in. with less than a week to go, the mo men tunnel appear to be with the republicans. a new abc news/"washington post" poll reveals americans expect the gop to take control of congress by a margin of 13 points.
surrogates are flocking to key battleground states including colorado. bill clinton was there to help mark udall hold on to his seat. jeb bush heads there tonight. governor christie drops in on thursday for udall's challenger, congressman cory gardner. both sides use women health issues as a wedge and clinton didn't mince words when it came to gardner. >>cy i thought i'd die when i read this. basically take away a woman's right to choose. so his opponent who is an attractive guy said, i'm not for that anymore, everything's all right. and i'm okay on letting women buy contraceptives. hello, that's been legal for several decades now. [ cheers and applause ]
like i said -- [ applause ] there is a pretty low standard for what counts as moderate in the republican party. >> jeremy, i'm not going to get bogged down in the democrat's contraception wars. even after being taken down by "the denver post," about being a one-trick pony out in colorado, they continue that. let them continue that. let's broaden it out though. i don't know, maybe it's because i'm fighting the last war. maybe it's because i heard everybody saying in the republican party to mitt romney who's going to sweep to victory at the end. maybe it's because they saw the gallup poll that said he was up by 11%. i'm a little skeptical that we can say today the republican party is going to take control because you never know what's going to happen in the last week. we're still in all of these, almost all of these, within the margin of error. what do you see out there? any trend lines? >> republicans are just as wary to make any sort of bold
predictions about taking this on either. i've been talking to them all week and privately they don't know what's going to happen on election night. there are about ten states where these races are three, four points each. this is unlike anything that weem seen in a recent election. we're going into election night. no state has clearly broken one way or the other. you mentioned colorado. colorado's interesting because it did appear that cory gardner, the republican, was up over mark udall quite significantly. that race has started to tighten. democrats believe if they get that race within two points, they can win it, because they're already voting in colorado. everybody has a ballot on their kitchen table because they've mailed them. if democrats get that close, they think they can take it. and that is going to be a bellweather state to watch on election night. >> kansas is going to be a state
a lot of people are watching. independent greg orman is leading, in a new poll, leading republican senator matt robepat. but, again, mark halperin, we're within the margin of error. and the only thing i will say that i'm hearing republicans show confidence on is they're starting to pass around some numbers about early voting. they're saying they're outperforming democrats in a lot of states where they don't expect to outperform democrats. but, you know, again, here, they are two points down in kansas, kansas. >> you've been in the right place. i've moved towards where you are in terms the overall playing field. a lot of republicans now say both new hampshire and north carolina are going to be tough for them to win unless there's a national tide that we're currently not seeing. you'll take those two off the table. you put kansas in play. run the rest of the races. push a lot of them, almost all
of them that are competitive to the republicans. they still are going to require the overtime of georgia and louisiana to get the majority under those circumstances. unless they absolutely run the table on everything else. right now, i don't thing they would. the conventional wisdom this is a foregone conclusion and these people putting odds of 60%, 80%, it's just not accurate. if democrat ks execute on the ground and get some breaks in the last week, they'll get the senate. >> in 2012, it was quite a lesson. you know, i -- the first big campaign that i remember was ronald reagan. it was tied on the weekend. there was this huge wave that struck reagan into power. 1994 obviously important to me. because my name was on the ballot. on friday, we were tied. i ended up winning 62% to 38%. and so you saw those waves of -- a lot of republicans that waved
two years ago. what i learned, the people wake up and say, i'm going to vote for ronald reagan today, those days are other. it's ground game. it's getting people out early. if the democrat's organization machine is half as good today as it was two years ago, any republican saying right now, oh, we're going to take the senate, is a fool. maybe we will take the senate. maybe we won't take the senate. but you can't tell today. >> go ahead. >> that's one of the issues that democrats have always had in this race is they're running in states where that ground game did not exist. so they've had to build it from scratch in alaska and arkansas. in alaska, it's gone quite well, you know, people are already voting there and the reports i'm getting from the ground, although there's been some irregularities. and the lieutenant governor's office has apparently not been sending enough ballots to some
rural tribal villages. democrats feel like their ground games there can give them the edge. so i think you're right, we just don't know what's going to happen. >> all right. yesterday, roberts brought in mitt romney who received a warm response when former presidential candidate bob dole called on him to run again. romney took the opportunity to take a jab at the president and later spoke with joe and me about the midterms. >> look, a vote for greg orman is a vote for barack obama. and america, america should not make that mistake three times. so let's make sure and vote for pat roberts. >> everything is about 2014 right now. >> right. >> everything is about getting more senators elected from my party so we can have a house and a senate that can pass bills. >> do you think that's going to happen? >> i do. but it's very close. it's going to be hard to predict. we'll pick up a lot of seats. do we get the majority or not, i
don't know. but if we do, we will actually end gridlock. because we'll pass bills. they will go to the president's desk. he'll either veto them or sign them and things will happen with regards to energy, education, immigration. these things it will finally be dealt with. we'll end gridlock. >> still ahead on "morning joe," senator sherrod brown joins us. he'll help us break down the chances the democrats have of holding on to the senate. plus, the chairman and ceo of general electric jeff immelt joins us next. a new look about how millennials feel about the country. first, bill karins. >> we know how we feel about him. >> creepy. >> for halloween, for halloween. thanks, mika. the story out of hawaii continues to be the slow reading disaster. the lava flow heading to this town. one structure was burned.
it's only like 30 feet in an hour is how close it's going. it's slow moving disaster. it hasn't crossed the main highway. when it does, it will be shut down. it's hard for the rest of us in the lower 48 to even picture what that would be like. as far as the weather goes today, not many problems. some slight rain to the east, about to arrive in atlanta, d.c., new york. the big winter arctic blast heading down from canada. that's the cold air. it's going to dive south. it will be here starting thursday night in the great lakes and then friday, halloween, in the east. so today, showers in the east. cool in chicago. that's not the cold stuff. the cold stuff arrives thursday. and then on halloween, it will be frigid. windchills and snow showers as far south as kentucky. watch out this weekend. nor'easter, areas of maine, possibly a big snowstorm.
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we're live at the summit at the ohio state university. welcome back, everyone. great crowd. here with us now, the chairman and ceo of general electric, jeff immelt. jeff, it's good to have you here. >> we have so many questions to ask you. i want to start with, though, the question some people ask is about the state of the economy. you look at a lot of numbers and they're positive. you look at consumer confidence, it's higher than usual. "the washington post" poll shows only 27% of americans think the economy's going in the right direction. why is there such a disconnect between main street and wall street? >> first, we're coming out of a deep recession, right. the u.s. economy in my mind in terms of what i've seen is the best it's been since that time. the u.s. economy i think is picking up speed. but the growth is still let's say somewhere between 2% and 3%.
the growth was 3% with almost no inflation. we're still not back to where we want to be. >> are we ever going to get back to that? i'm reading a book now that basically says it's the end of normal. that we're going to creep along. maybe it's 2% this year and 2.4% this year. are we ever going to see 5%, 6% again? >> i think that is what concerns people. unless you have that type of growth, it's tough to have all the social plans and things people have become used to. on a differential basis, i just got back from asia last week, three weeks before that, i was in the middle east. the country's as competitive as it's ever been. the entrepreneurial framework, the ability to export, things like that. i just think we've got to get a little more confidence in ourselves. if you look at these guys in the room who i really consider the
heartbeat of the economy. their businesses are doing better. they're still not investing back in new capital expenditures. they just don't have the confidence. until we both get the consumer side and investor side going. >> so the markets are bringing in the jobs. most of the jobs in the past year, 65% of them. what do they need to continue to thrive and bring this country into whatever new normal, where people can make a living at least? >> it starts with people, talent. so if you have dinner with these guys, they're going to talk about education training, trained workforce. then i think it's certainty. so health care. these are the companies that are still seeing big increases in their health care premiums. >> we keep hearing about health care. we keep hearing about health care being the number one concern. i thought we had that debate for a year and a half. >> i always tell people don't
ask ge about health care. don't go to your local politician. everybody should have their own survey of 100 or 200 midmarket companies. that is the ultimate truth. is what are you paying year over year for your health care? that, to me, is where, you know, 50% of u.s. health care's government pay, 50% is private. big companies, don't worry about us. it's these guys everybody should worry about. their premiums are going up. it's people, it's uncertainty, mika. i think the burden is on business to keep investing. in many ways, there's no excuse. if you're waiting for this magic day to say, oh, i feel so good today. that day is not going to happen. >> it ain't happening. >> uncertainty is like overused a little bit. >> so i think if you're not willing to just go forward -- >> jump in, yeah. >> the problem becomes us. >> let's talk about retaining talent. that's really important for
certain companies. especially when we're talking about middle growth. we had steve case on before, talking about the difference. midcities, st. louises of the world. explain how companies can best do that. explain talent that they don't lose the largest corporations. >> i think you've got to train, right, but most importantly is how you manage your workforce. it's got to be a meritocracy, exciting work. for guys like me, seeing this industrial heartland, this is exciting, you know, if you like locomotives and jet engines. it's a combination of pay benefits. it's most importantly culture. where it's fairness, it's exciting. people feel like they're getting better every day. small companies and big companies can create that. the big debate in terms of workplace culture is minimum wage. whether there should be a federal standard. obviously, there's a federal
standard. where that federal standard should be raised. obviously people feel like they're being left behind. i would gather one of the reasons they feel like they're being left behind is because their paychecks aren't buying as much as they used to. >> we're talking about a company that has our wages are above minimum wage. >> sure, i understand that. >> we're in a different position. i would say i would have to go to kind of what governor romney said last night. what he said last night would be more aligned with what i would say. it should start going up. >> incremental. >> it needs to be repositioned. but at the end of the day, look, that's not -- you know, a company like ours, that's just not something we have to worry about. >> what i found out in the break is you agree with mitt romney on this and also rob portman, he agrees as well. think that's the way to go. >> i think you'll find a lot of people that think the minimum wage does need to be raised and indexed to inflation. >> indexed. >> if the economy drops, then you have adjustments then. >> we've got a big day ahead of us here. you can watch the entire middle
market summit live this morning on our website. morning joe.msnbc.com. jeff immelt, thank you. great to be here. thank you for having us. >> thomas. >> still ahead, it promises customers unlimited data plans but the ftc says that's far from what one company delivered. we'll tell you which carrier is being hit with a federal lawsuit. first, do democrats have a serious chance at knocking mitch mcconnell out of the senate? huh. ohio senator sherrod brown has campaigned for grimes this fall and he joins us next. we'll be right back. there are more reasons than ever why now is the best time to be on verizon. one: verizon's the largest, most reliable 4g lte network in the country. that's right america. with xlte in over 400 markets.
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and with us now, democratic senator from ohio and member of the finance committee, senator sherrod brown. senator brown, republicans are going to cleveland, 2016, for the convention. you think we are sitting in the city where the democrats are going to have their 2016. >> is this it? >> i think it is. the first time in american history when the two convectints came to the same state but
different cities. this campus is the tiebreaker between here and philadelphia for getting this convention because this campus offers so much. >> it's really beautiful and really beautifully laid out. >> all the things this university offers in so many ways from buses to dorm rooms to so much else. there's not been a big university located that i can remember in a convention city in a good while. >> think he's making the case -- >> the mayor made the case about an hour ago -- >> and now we're making it again. he left out a couple things i got to add. speaking of tiebreaker, we have to wake up -- well, not even a week. actually, are we going to wake up a week from now -- >> thursday or friday -- >> and then say, gee, maybe we're not going to find out until december. >> and there's no chance of two runoffs. d december runoff in louisiana. i think michelle nunn may win without the runoff. her performance. the contrast is so great. all he talks about is blaming
become obama for everything. >> we talked before about how close this race is. it may just be get out the vote. democrat senators are holding their own in tough states and a tough year as you point out. that's why what we do in get out the vote matters. >> make the case for kentucky having a democrat win. >> i think kentucky's easy. >> you think it's easy? >> easy case, back up. i was overlooking the bridge between cincinnati and kentucky. 4% of gdp crosses this bridge every day. mitch mcconnell has blocked any kind of infrastructure that used to be bipartisan and we used to be able to do infrastructure in this country, five, six, eight years at a time. whether it was community colleges or medical research for highways and bridges or airports. you fly a lot, you know what our
airports look like in this country. mitch mcconnell has really -- >> she's seven points behind him in some of these polls. >> i don't think those poll numbers are right. i think it's very close. mcconnell spent 1.8 million of his own money. you think he spent that money in when he feels safe? >> she was tripped up by an inability to answer a very basic question of who show voted for. no one thought she voted for mitt romney. we talked earlier in this panel about whether you should own the fact that -- >> like nina. >> who said own the fact you're with the president, you know, defend the accomplishments he's made. shouldn't the party be doing that? >> yep, they should be. i think that was a political tactical mistake she made. that's not disqualifying. i think that race is very, very close. >> how's the economy doing? why is it we have americans seemingly more confident? the numbers seem a little bit stronger. but then we have a washington
post poll that shows only 27% of americans think we're going in the right direction. >>cy think because so many people talk the economy down. number one. more importantly, people haven't seen wages go up. if wages are stagnant, there are more jobs that are not good paying jobs. this state's doing better because of auto rescue and because of trade enforcement. we're seeing some industrial jobs come back. we lost 5 million manufacturing jobs between 2000 and 2010. we've gained back 600,000. but there's far too many of these jobs that are low wage jobs. that's people's unhappiness and dissatisfaction fundamentally. >> got to get wages up. senator brown, thank you so much. good to have you. >> this is it, this is it? what about the democratic convention in columbus, did i mention that? >> the campus is beautiful. >> when you're back for the democratic convention, i get more time on this show. >> okay. all right. still ahead, if the elections were today -- >> thomas, you didn't say anything --
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yeah. okay. there he is again. >> what is that? the harvard university institute of politics. >> he is here with a first look at some new polls focused on how young voters are thinking. >> so i was actually thinking back a couple years ago as a republican how weird it was back when ronald reagan first ran that young voters supported republicans more than democrats. i said, oh, that day will never come again. actually, your polling shows that millennials are up for grabs. >> that's the message. what we found is for the first
time essentially since september 11th, when things changed dramatically in this country, young people are politically up for grabs. 18-year-olds to 29-year-olds, they favor republicans 51, they favor democrats 47, in terms of control of congress next week. >> when comes to what's grabbing their attention what do you say it is? are they engaged? what is the right way to win it? >> they desperately want to be involved in washington, d.c. they're no longer the outliers we once thought they were. in fact, approval of that institution is at 23%. so both parties really need to reset and reengage and power young people to make a difference. they care deeply about student debt. they care deeply about the country and they want to be
engaged. >> sam stein's here. in a couple of years, he's going to be able to vote so we want him to ask you a question. >> i know, it's coming, it's coming. >> i'm officially outside this minu millennial age. i'm curious about this number. approval for the affordable care act. gives free health care for people up to 26 -- >> what's the number? >> the number of people is at 6 %. i'm wondering how so many young people can stay on their parent's plans up to the age of 26 don't like that? >> it's a question that we ask ourselves on a regular bath sis. 39% approve of this. it's essentially the same place it was a year ago. i think it has less to do with the specifics of the law and more to do with it's coming from washington, d.c. there's almost nothing out of washington, d.c. that young people approve of these days. in fact, we asked a question about their own member of congress. only one in ten indicated they're a member of congress that represents constituents
which is there job, rather than party bosses and fund-raisers, special interests, et cetera. >> i think it really helps, this conversation that brutus is behind you taking with millennials, who are listening to this vital information about politics, taking selfies with brutus. >> really quickly, we got to go, but women millennials, do you look between the sexes how they're swaying at this point politically? >> yeah, there's a small but not a significant gender gap, mika. democrats, women support democrats, but not the most significant numbers we see in other races. the biggest gap isn't among gender. >> when we get back to new york, we want to have you on set and talk about this a lot more because it's fascinating. so many politicians, pundits, try to oversimplify and break groups up and say they're always going to be for this group or that. this shows every part shows.
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>> sam stein, what it you learn? >> it takes you three bites to take down a 1,000 calorie doughnut. >> it was an amazing doughnut. thomas, you have some friends here. >> i do. i learned we have a lot of friends here in columbus. this is madison, who's miss ohio usa 2014. she's a current law student here. >> i just learned you guys are here and ran over. i had to see thomas again. we spent some time together back in baton rouge in june for miss usa. >> and this is miss usa from what year? >> oh, 2008. >> now she's at nbc 4 here in columbus. >> i learned you all love the ohio state university. >> and we certainly love brutus. brutus, thank you for being kind enough to be with us today. >> any final words, brutus? exactly. all right, baby. >> actually, thank you, brutus, we actually are here for the middle market summit which has been really eye opening in terms
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