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i often wonder about the disconnect fwe disconnect between fiction and reality. they saw in this film an opportunity for people to understand white how important he was. >> the film is called the imitation game. thank you very much. >> all right. earlier, you may have noticed i referred to ben dikt cumberbash which is, of course, wrong. my only excuse e kus is that is wrong. and it's been a very long week. >> thanks, guys. >> all right. these are pictures of president obama on board air force one today signing the first executive memoranda to start implementing the new immigration changes that he announced last night. justify e just after the 2012 election, the president gave a speech at del sol high school in
las vegas in which he announced the terms on what he thought republicans and democrats could agree on comprehensive immigration reform legislation. a bill along those lines did pass the senate about six months after that speech. but house republicans refused to ever vote on it. that refusal is why president obama says he acted on his own. unilaterally as president last night to use his powers as president to improve the system as much as he can. and then, today, he went back to del sol high school, at the same podium, basically to tell them he made good on his prom. he got it done. congress couldn't get it done, but he got it done. >> i cajoled and i called and i met. i told john boehner, i'll warsh
your car and walk your dog. the fact that a year and a half has gone by is time that has been wasted. las vegas, i've come back to del sol i will never give up. i'm not giving up. i will never give up. [ cheers and applause ] >> i will not give up. [ cheers and applause ] >> last night, when president obama gave his big speech, that, of course, was a formal address from the east room in the white house. so what that means in the moment is that the president just spoke to a camera and not to any audience there in the room with him. but you can tell when he got out in front of the crowd, you can tell he knew what the good parts were from his speech. and he knew they'd sound a lot different, a lot better when you can say them in front of people who will respond. >> whether we fled famine or war
or persecution whether we were wealthy orr poor, we all shared one thing. that is hope that america would be the place where we could finally build a better life for ourselves. that's what makes us americans. it's not what we look like. it's not what our last name is. it's not where we come from. it's not how we pray. what makes us american is a shared ideal that all of us are created equal. all of us have a chance to make our lives what we will. for generations. for generations. america, by choice, and americans by birth have come together to renew that common creed and move this country forward that brought us to this moment. that is the legacy that we now have to deliver to the next jeblg e generation. thank you, nevada. god bless you. god bless the united states of america. blaung e blae
. >> if there's any question as to whether or not democrats will run and what this president just did in order to do the right thing on immigration in this country, the president is modelling for democrats nationwide, basically how you preach that particular gospel, how you run on this. and it now seems pretty obvious that president obama probably should have don this before the midterms instead of waiting untill after them. when you see how this announcement has been received and the kind of energy it has put into potential democratic voters. the way it makes democrats seem in the fight, in case that isn't clear enough yet just from what's happened already in the last 24 hours, it's not what he has done that has this crowd today up on its feet screaming. check out the response just by checking out the kind of box he put the republicans into on this. >> members of congress question my authority to make our
immigration system work better, i have a simple answer. pass a bill. pass a bill. pass a bill. nobody is stopping them from passing a bill. [ cheers and applause ] >> pass a bill. >> you know -- >> that was president obama speaking in las vegas today. and who knows, maybe the republicans will pass a bill. ha, ha, ha. >> i mean, that is one of their options for what to do about immigration now, right? or had you expressed their very hard feelings. they could pass their own bill on the issue of comprehensive immigration reform.
anybody who thinks house republicans are now going to roll out their own immigration reform plan? may i interest you in a fine, genuine u 100% authentic rolex time piece? i only take cash. i mean, really? oh, the republicans are now going to do their own thing on immigration? there is this thing that happens in politics after a president has a really, really bad midterm election. usually, what happens is the president kind of shrinks. and you can tell the president is shrinking because he has to spend a lot of time saying i'm not shrinking. i'm still here. >> and the constitution gives me relevances. the power of idea gives me relevance. the record that we've built up over the last two years and the things that we're trying to imp lemt it give me relevance here. >> it's one way to ensure that i am relevant. it's one way to ensure that i'm in the process. >> george w. bush and bill clinton speaking after they
suffered terrible midterm losses. this current president suffered a terrible midterm loss. but that is not what is happening in this white house right now. if you couldn't tell it from how manifestly psyched president obama was, the white house is also just happy to flat out admit that they're delighted with how things are going right now. basically because they are getting done what they want to get done. >> we feel very good about how the last 2 1/2 weeks have gone here. i think that, you know, typically, when you have a change in power and congress, the new congressional majority dominates the conversation and drives the discussion. i think since essentially right after the election, it's been the president what's been driving the discussion in this town. >> dan pfeiffer, white house communications director, basically saying what everybody
is thinking what's going on in politics right now, which is that this president appears to have found his mojo. he's back. i mean, for all their stomping their feet and hollering about how mad they are and upset they are, how sorry he's going to be for what he's done on immigration, you know, after knowing for weeks and months that this announcement was coming after threatening all that time that president obama wold rue the day he took action like this on immigration. what did the republicans actually do today? in washington? they held a press conference and then decided to go home. they closed up shop this morning, left early for the thanksgiving break. they'll be back sometime deep into december. they started their vacation today. that's how they're fighting back. they knew this was coming for weeks. for months. they said he'll be sorry. wait till you see what we do. what they did is they went home.
for all the lighting hair on fire and getting burned when you play with matches and the nay palm and the grenades, what the republicans say they're going to do in response to this now is they say they are not going to impeach him, they say they are not going to shut down the government, they say they're not going to shut down even a little piece of the government. and if they do have something else in mind, like passing their own immigration bill or something, $10. >> there's been no peep about it so far. and now they really have gone back on vacation. one sure sign that the republicans just got out-ma nooured here and they are really going to walk awaif from this and put it behind them. the fact that fox news has already stopped talking about it. today, when everybody else was covering it, on foxz news channel, they were just pretending like it wasn't happening. and this is awkward. president obama doing this was supposed to be the biggest deal in the world. it was supposed to be the death
of the republic. and now it's like let's move on. it's awkward. they'ven gotten their base so whipped up about it. they did throw their base a nice bone today. hougs republicans finally filed their lawsuit today that they had announced during the summer about something having to do with obamacare. so think about that. they saved the filing of the lawsuit until after the big immigration announcement. so it would look like they were suing him over immigration. it would look like they're punching right back. oh, yeah, you're going to do that? well, we'll take you to court. we're going to cram the tyrant back into his box. tgs a totally un-related manner. they just saved the announcement so it looked like they would have something to say even though it has absolutely nothing to do with what president obama just announced or immigration at all.
if you want the best last evidence that the republicans just had gotten beat here, it's the human documentary evidence of what it would mean for them to actually, you know, stop doing everything else they want to do in congress and, instead, try to tear down what president obama just did. it is one thing when you are crusading against the president for something the president wants to do. he's the bad guy and they love to crusade against him. but now they have taken these actions, fighting this doesn't mean just fighting him anymore. it means fighting this. it means fighting these folks and their families and what this means for their american lives. >> he's going to keep us together. i think that's the biggest news. >> it's a bitter sweet moment. i'm a little bit in tears rite now because i was able to call my dad and my mom and let them know that based on the criteria that has been shared, they will
be prerkted from deporation. >> i can breathe belter. that's very important. thanks god. thanks to the president obama. >> finally, the president listened to us. ecstatic. just hugging my mom right now and knowing that she's going to be here at the end of the day is the greatest feeling in if world. >> it is one thing to wage a fight against big, bad president obama. it is another thing to wage a fight to materially and drastically hurt the millions of families who president obama has just helped. republicans made a lot of niois
about this until he did it. now that he's done it, it iend e kind e kind of feels like it's over. joining us now is allen gomez, immigration reporter for usa today. mr. gomez, nice to have you back. >> thanks for having me, suzi. >> suzie. well played, sir. all right. allen, so among the people who have been add voe kvocating for change, what's been the reaction to the president's announcement. obviously, the change is not going to help everyone. but among a advocates, how do people feel about what he did? >> well, as you saw on the video a second ago, it's absolute elation. they've been fighting for this so long. they finally got not all of what they got, but they got a lot. they're now going to be able to
work and find better job opportunities. they're going to be able to get better education opportunities, more access to driver's licenses. and base kpically that core issf when they leave for work that day, they know that they've going to come home. there is a bit of a sense of guilt that they get it, but others don't. so if you're the parent of a u.s. citizen, yeah, you get to stay in the country and you're legally protected, by if you're just an undocumented immigrant and you just don't happen to have any children, you get a little left out. you got completely left out. i think overall, the whole community sees what he's done and they're all incredibly excited. >> i know the republicans have talked about how mad they are about this, about all the different things they're going to try to do to stop this policy. are there concrete signs that they are doing something? >> i think you've laid it out pretty welt.
let let's forget about the idea of impeachment. that's not going to happen. a lawsuit is incredibly difficult. probably not going to happen. congress has learned the last couple of days how difficult it is to defund this process. so going the appropriations bill is pretty difficult, as well. but there's one thing they can do. they can come back when the new congress sits in january and pass a border security bill. think about what happens if they pass that and send it to the president. if he signs that, he's going to enrage democrats, he east going to enrage all of these immigrants and be back at square one. but if he doesn't, republicans get to say hey, look, we tried to work with him. the is the most important thing to secure the border. we offered this as a first step and he walks away from it. it puts him in an incredibly uncomfortable situation.
you're going to hear from a house border security bill in december. >> i have to say, with everything that he's been willing to shift with the number of people he's been willing to deport that he just put in what he announced last night. i'm not sure he'd be so shy about sign etc. that will be fascinating to see. i think the other side is now the primaries. >> this is incredibly difficult to them. previously, people protected from deportation under the president's plan, they received two year reprieves. under this, they're going to get three-year reprieves. assuming that these start being passed sometime in 2015, their period of protection is going to run well into the next administration.
that's going to start any day now. they're going to have to annals the question, are you going to revoke that status. are you going to extend it. are you going to be forced to deal with this issue. as you pointed out, as president obama is running around talking about how many people he saved, the republicans are going to be left arguing over who's going to be tough around undocumented imgrants. who's going to uphold it. i think a lot of democrats are happy to see. >> yes, the fascinating thing about it is it's not going to be a hypothetical. it's about identifiable, named people who you can meet who will be affected who will be the individuals that they have to decide about. and it will be something within the power of the next president to decide. that's going to be a very, very interesting fight. allen gomez, always great to have you here. thank you very much. >> lots ahead tonight, including the most unexpected thing you could possibly imagine me saying
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>> this congress has been famously, historically, epically non-productive. it was an unusual thing when pet obama gathered the sponsors of a bill that was about child care and he got to sign the bill into law. >> what do you say, guys? >> that's good. >> it's good. it's good for congress to pass a bill sometimes. this lame duck congress of ours is now done, working for this whole month. and then they have a grand total of agt workdays scheduled for the eight workdays of december. they don't have much time left for doing much of anything. but there is this one thing that might maybe possibly happen. i almost feel like not saying anything in case i jinx it somehow. both the house and the senate held hearings in this week on a bipartisan bill to help prevent
suicide among military veterans. it's named after clay hunt, a marine corporal from outside houston, texas. corporal luhunt serves in iraq. he recovered from that wound and became a sniper himself and served a second tour in afghanistan. after he left the marines, he biked in the ride to recovery charity races in california and in florida. clay hunt pushed for the other guys, literally, in some cases. he had been diagnosed with p e p.t.s.d. we know from his own words that he took comfort in trying to make the world better. this is after the huge earthquake in haiti in 2009. he joined a group of veterans who went to haiti on their own after the earthquake to try to help. >> i've been in two third world countries where everybody second
i had to worry about my own safety before i could worry about doing good and helping others. it was the complete opposite down in 80. i was able to walk through a rebel-strewn, just destroyed city. it looked like it had been carpet bombed. i was there to do a job. to help people. i have a renewed faith in mule manty. clay hunt worked in afghanistan, he worked in afghanistan, he worked in haiti. and it was a great shock and a tref sadness among his family and friends and fellow act viss that he had got the news that he had killed himself in maer, 2011. but they have put their grief to use. in the senate this week, clay hunt's mother testified about her son and about this bill that bears her son's name. this bill that, honestly, they really might pass in this lame duck session of congress. watch this.
>> i constantly voiced concerns about the care he was receiving as well as the treatment he was receiving for pts which was primarily medication. he received brief counseling with whether the medication was working or not. if it was not, he would be given a new medication. he used to say i'm a guinea pig for drugs. they isle pu'll put me on one t will have side effects and then they'll put me on something else. after the apointment, clay called me on his way home and said mom, i can want go back there. just two weeks after his appointment with the psychiatrist, clay took his own life. >> this bill that's moving in the lame duck congress right now, it's what veteran groups
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here illegally, you don't deserve to be here. >> you don't deserve to be here. >> jose vargas getting the full fox treatment last night. jose antonio vargas surprised everybody when he came out and said even though he's been in this country since he was 12 and is an amazing journalist, he is personally undocumented. last night, he told them with tears in his eyes that what president obama had just announced last night meant that he would be able to see his own mother for the first time since he was a little boy. and bill o'riley told him in response that you don't deserve to be here. jose antonio vargsas is a strong guy. i don't worry about the thickness of his skin at all.
but the way they are talking about immigrants to this country right now on fox and otherwise in the right wing media, there are moments when it takes your breath away. >> the last time we had a big reform in this country was 25 years ago, when president ronald reagan was there. he made some changes to enforcement in the immigration system by president reagan. he changed the law, as well. he signed a big amnesty law. >> tuesday marked the first opportunity for illegal aliens to seek amnesty under new, federal law. we covered that story here today and yesterday talked with an ins
official in chicago who when officials opened the door found that james mcconnell was there not to cover the story, but to seek amnesty, himself. good morning, james. >> good morning, bryant. >> you're a native of what was once rhodesia. when did you come here and how did you manage to stay? >> well, i came here in 1977. i came here as a student, obviously fleeing the war that was going on at the time. gorillas were going from house-to-house recruiting youngsters like myself literally at gunpoint. i came here as a student and overstayed my visa, which ran out when i got out of college. >> how real was your fear of being detekted. >> it was hell, if i may say. >> what was it like marching into the office yesterday?
>> let me tell you, bryant, i almost broke down in tears. i was this burden that was finally lifted off of me. i could finally talk about my status openly. i felt like i was -- i could be like everybody else. and it just felt good. it felt great, if i may say. >> aalong in his career, he had been undocumented. he was able to come out of his status and get legal only when president ronald reagan signed into law the last major change in our immigration system. the last major change before the changes that president obama announced ime in prime time from the white house last night. joining us now for the interview is james. he's now the cofounder and ceo of africa hd.
i've been so looking forward to talking to you. >> thank you, rachel, for having me. fwlad to be here. >> coyou have the same feeling that all of us on tv do? which is oh, my god, i can't believe i used to look like that. >> i used to have hair back then. as long as that twinkle is still in my eye, i think i'm going to be okay. >> let me ask you about that time. before that amnesty law from president reagan, how difficult had it been for you to keep this a secret for so long. you can see the evidence surprise in everybody else who covered th on the air. but they had no idea. >> nobody had any yp e idea. this could not leak out. but at the same time, too, you could imagine the pressure on one's shoulders when you're trying to do a job and you had this cloud, you know, hanging
over your, you know, hanging over you. i really feel for the people that are dealing with that right now. >> as -- in your work as a correspondent for nbc, did you ever have close calls in terms of travel or anything else that you were doing where simply the work that you were doing put you at risk of exposure? >> oh, absolutely. i actually had a couple of calls. i remember one call,ives in chicago working out of shi can ghoe at the time and there was a big tornado that came through edmonton, canada and i was the only correspondent to cover that story. you've got to be on a private jet and head to edmonton. and i'm going oh, my goodness. how in the world do i get back into the united states? i had to cover the story. i went out there, did the job, but i didn't have a private jet coming back. i had to take kmeshlt. but those were the days where actually one could actually get by using a driver's license to get back into the country and
that's exactly what i did. you couldn't do that today. but that's what happened. >> when president reagan changed the law and you applied for legal status and you were able to come out at work and let that story be told, how did that change the trajectory of your life and your career? what happened for you there after? >> it was a big weight off of my shouldsers. i mean, my passion in life was to work in television. was to become a georgist and all of those things that make up this incredible medium and this powerful medium. nbc afforded me the opportunity to do that. so when that achl necessity opportunity came alodge, it just opened up my world incredibly. and it gave me the opportunity to pursue other things that put me in a situation where i said i'm going to be able to make a difference back in africa.
not only in my community in the united states, but back in africa as well. that's what that did. and that's the journey i'm on tonight. >> the ability to travel. the ablt to -- or i heard that over and over and over again. particularly from people who are high-achieving or have done a lot in their careers and at a point where you'd expect they'd be able to do some international travel whether it's for work or anything. that ability that you don't have to hide within the porders of the united states because you can't legally cross a border. i hear that over and over gren. >> yeah, my story not unique in the sense -- i'm an imgrablt. one of millions who are here on the specific mission with a specific vision. we work hard. we're not sucking the oxz general out of the united states. if anything were here e here to add value. >> james, an american immigrant and nbc coral responsible dent who is e was granted amnesty by
president reagan. now, the ceo of africa, hd, thank you so much for being with us. fascinating to hear your story. great to see you. >> thank you very much for having me. for having me. >> it is amazing to see his personal story, right? of course it has to end, and now he's the ceo of a company and is a job creator and doing all this international work, right? you look at immigrants as an economic engine in our country, not just now, but forever, and the idea that people would talk about expanded immigration activities as an economic drive on our nation is so counterfactual, it's almost ridiculous. but it's fascinating. anyway, it's friday. our still highly experimental news quiz game show thingy is back. as this was an unusually rich week for current events, my expectations are trending upward for that. stay with us. that's ahead, lots to come. >> and one of those happy to see this day come is nbc news correspondent, james makawa, who works out of our chicago office. much to our surprise, james
today was online, applying for amnesty. none of us knew that he has been an illegal alien since his student visa ran out. makawa came here in 1977 to attend high school and to escape the war at home. it was then called rhodesia, now zimbab zimbabwe. after graduation from college, he began a promising broadcast journalism career, never lying about his status, but never really telling anyone either. he has been paying taxes and social security all this time and worrying that some day he would be caught. now, he says, he's relieved to be able to begin the process of getting amnesty to becoming a legal american. (receptionist) gunderman group. gunderman group is growing. getting in a groove. growth is gratifying. goal is to grow. gotta get greater growth. i just talked to ups. they got expert advise, special discounts, new technologies. like smart pick ups. they'll only show up when you print a label and it's automatic. we save time and money. time? money? time and money. awesome. awesome! awesome!
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here tonight. hi, julia. >> hi. >> who's going to be playing tonight? >> tonight we're going to have samir on the show, he hails from pittsburgh, pennsylvania. he's a college student studying environmental policy. he wants to do international development and he has worked and lived in cambodia. >> wow, samir, you're a complicated guy, nice to meet you. >> extremely complicated. i can't keep up with myself. good to meet you. >> it's really good to meet you. if you are a college student, does that mean you are home yet or are you still at college? are you in term? >> yes, i am in term. >> are you supposed to be in like finals? >> right, well, okay. finals is coming up. i should have been studying for those finals, but i was studying for this, you see? >> all right. so if you need a note to explain your grades, i am a doctor, technically. >> your e-mail would be great. >> sure. so i think you know how this goes. i'll ask you three questions, if you get two or more right, julia, what will samir win? >> this mini, fabulous, cocktail
shaker. >> and let's bring in the disembodied voice of steve benen of maddow blog and he's the person who will bring the correct answers in this game. disembodied voice of steve benen, are you there? >> i am. >> god of the blog, good to meet you, steve. >> he is the god of the blog. blog is my copilot. all right. are you ready for your first question? >> i am. >> on monday, we talked about pope francis and the surprising technology that pope francis uses to communicate with his top american adviser, a cardinal named sean o'malley. what is the preferred method of communication between the pope and this american cardinal. is it, a, texting, b, google hangout chats, c, typewritten notes, like, written with a type wrir, not computer printer, or, d, faxing. >> d, faxing. >> steve, what is the answer? >> let's check the segment from monday's show. >> okay. >> most people think texting is
quicker than faxing. >> well, the pope and i aren't into texting. >> not into texting. they prefer the fax. >> can you imagine him with google glasses or an apple watch or something. >> now that we've seen this pope do selfies, i think that we are not very off from anything like that. >> right. >> although google glass might be too creepy for the future. all right. you have to get two right to get the prize. you've got one right already. let's go to question two. on tuesday's show, we talked about house republicans picking new committee chairs for the upcoming congress and how once again only one committee will be run by a woman. what committee will congresswoman candice miller get to chair in the new congress. is it the committee on administration, the committee on homeland security, the education committee, or the rules committee? >> administration. also known as the senate cafeteria, right? >> steve, did samir get that right? >> he did. this was a tough one, because miller wanted to be on homeland
security, but she got administration. the correct answer was "a," and samir was right. >> when she got control of the house, she wanted to be chair of homeland security, and she said, no, you can't have that, we're giving that to a man. >> everybody wants that job. >> yeah, exactly. well, you get free food on wednesdays. >> there you go. >> all right. last one, on wednesday, we talked about the historical context of the major broadcast sne networks refusing to air president obama's immigration speech last night. who was president the first time the broadcast networks refused to carry a prime-time presidential press conference? was that gerald ford, ronald reagan, george h.w. bush, or bill clinton? >> i believe this is a trick question. i'm going to go with h.w.. >> steve, do you have the answer for this? >> let's check the segment from wednesday's show. >> in 1992, when poppy bush was
on his way to losing his re-election effort, the networks all said no for the first time ever, to covering a presidential press conference, because they said, what president bush was going to do in that press conference was basically hold a campaign event and they felt that they had no obligation to defer to him on that. >> so the correct answer was, "c," and samir got it right. >> do the math, does he get to take it home. >> samir, you not only got two right, but i think you get both the cocktail shaker and something that we scrounge up from around the office that you might find to be of value. >> i want that t-shirt with the fadeaway messages. >> oh! >> we haven't given away the anti-nazi t-shirt. oh, we don't have it anymore? we'll see what we can find you, samir, you'll hate it. thank you for watching the show this week. now, go study. really appreciate it. thanks, man. >> thank you, take care. >> if any of you out there think you have what it takes and the
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