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sneak peek of the super bowl commercials. you know we're going, willie. are you ready? >> we're going. >> we're going to interview katy perry. >> when is the flight? >> amman -- >> we will send you information. >> should i be following you on twiter? >> sure. do that. yeah that's good. also we're going to update you on difficulteflategate because we're going to bring in a physicist. >> is there more? >> are you going to laugh like a 3-year-old girl again whenever they say balls? >> yes. it's ridiculous. there's nothing good today. >> look at this. seriously, come on. >> i got to point out one thing. richard haass, foreign relations, is ready for the storm that's on its way. check out the timberland boots. >> is he rugged? >> with the gray suit. >> blizzard passed. >> willie did you see that cher is -- this is going to be a
shock, but cher is not a chris christie fan. >> i didn't know that. >> her latest attack. i love ron fortnier's response though. >> what is this? okay. cher is -- >> what are you doing? >> the cher primary. in other news dawn breaks. >> what did she say? >> you look at her there. you know she knows geopolitical subtlety subtleties. >> the grammy winner tweeted, it's more than obnoxious. is there a more obnoxious man in the usa than the governor of new jersey. chris, sit down and shut up. christie is a malicious bully, not presidential material. >> so goes cher. let's go to our top news. >> yeah because that's not it. i'm not sure why you did that. >> no i just -- i actually did
it -- i actually -- i liked what happened as far as like ron fournier's response. let's go to south kaur care quickly because last night the south carolina polls came out. last night you had mitt romney and he's down in mississippi, right? >> yeah. >> and people are still saying still knocking this guy. well wait what's he doing? >>eded like a campaign day if i ever saw one. eating barbecue with the people shaking hands. this guy is running. >> and he's attacking hillary clinton. >> there you go. >> he is in full campaign mode. >> now there you go. >> and i've been saying for some time, kids are asking me what do you think about mitt romney? hey, kids listen okay everybody hates mitt romney. the republican establishment, nobody wants him to run in the party except for the people who vote in primaries.
and every time i say that a new poll comes out in an early critical state that has him in first place. >> the newest poll shows him out front of jeb bush and governor scott walker among republican voters in south carolina. romney lost the prime minister there in 1912 to newt gingrich. >> this is in iowa. he's way ahead in iowa. and then you go to new hampshire. you got to go back to november. but even there, you know you have mitt romney up. and i just want to know willie geist, if this guy is in first place in every single important state, who expects him to go i know jeb's people are launching a lot of stuff and like trying to kneecap him and everything. but seriously. who expects a guy who is in first place in iowa who is in first place in new hampshire, who is in first place in south carolina to just quit. all the little guys below all of them that are chattering, he
sucks, he sucks, he sucks. let us run this time. he's no good. he sucks. you know? guess what. >> what? >> he's in first place. >> oh, my god. >> and robert gibbs, i'm sorry, somebody pulling 3% or 4% should not be talking about how mitt romney is ill-qualified to run again because he's still in first place. >> he is in first place. i think if you look at some of the polls who in south carolina is supposed to know who scott walker is right now anyway. look. i think this is about we're probably a tenth of a mile into a marathon. sure he's in first place. >> this is why you have to decide whether you're going to run the rest of the marathon or not. >> absolutely. but the question isn't -- i mean you know you don't get much of a medal for finishing fifth or fourth or third in this marathon. >> robert, i don't think i'm -- i'm not articulating myself very well which, of course is par for the course.
i'm sure everybody watching "morning joe" today is not any different. the point i'm making today is the people who are telling mitt romney should not run for president all all run for president if they were in first mace place in iowa new hampshire, and south carolina in the early polls. my question is the state of the mind of mitt romney we are past a time where people can go it's too early. no, this is going to shape the field, what happens in the next month. why would mitt romney not run if he's in first place in all of these states and he wants to run? >> look i think it's pretty clear that mitt romney wants to run. even if he didn't want to run a few months ago, whatever clicked in him in the last month and a half, whether it was others that got in whether it was just deciding that he wanted another shot because he hadn't been able to do this i don't think there's anything in these polls -- in these polls that is likely to stop him. the question -- look if i was a
republican or a republican strategist i would have people ask, is there anything that mitt romney had to deal with in 2011 and 2012 that was a negative for him that he's done a lot or anything, quite frankly, to mitigate. i think republicans are going to, in this election take a longer view on electability. i think that is not going to be to a great benefit of mitt romney. but -- look i don't disagree with you that these numbers are certainly not going to cop vince him not to run. casey hunt, you've been following this closely. seems to me that mitt romney's out there planning on running and just making sure there's no reasons not to run. >> hey, mika. yeah a couple points on this. first, it seems like one of the things he's focused on is trying to present the authentic mitt romney. the speech that he gave in mississippi sounded a lot like one he gave last year at brigham
young university in utah. it seems that we're hearing from mitt romney the man. he wasn't yet a candidate. the question is whether or not he can successfully translate that across the campaign. it's more than just talking about it. i remember trying to getting a cess in 2012 to some of the more human sides of mitt romney. i actually went to church with them in new hampshire. they weren't thrilled to see me but it was one of the only glimpses that we got into this part of his life. and i think while a lot of reporters who covered him on the trail regularly recognized the guy in that mitt documentary on netflix, a lot of america didn't. >> exactly. >> i think that the second point, too is you know on this idea of poverty and whether he can redefine himself as somebody not just for the rich, this isn't just, while we talk about the 47%, it's not just that comment. there were hundreds of millions of dollars spent making sure that the american people thought this of mitt romney. it's going to take more to reverse that. i don't know how many times we
want to watch that "america the beautiful" cayman islands ad again. >> i don't think it's as simple as looking like you care and reaching out to people who node help and putting on some commercials and trying to show a softer side. sam stein, i would say with mitt romney it's got to be something bigger. it's got to be how our economic security, how lifting up the poor helps us on the world stage. then he might be able to take some of his winning points over the last campaign and apply them to winning points of the next one. >> yeah. a few points here. one is you know he clearly thinks that he has a platform to make another run. i'm guessing i haven't had any reporting on this that romney camps looks like 2012 and say we took the democrat's best shot. we know what they're going to do in 2016. maybe the polls are inviting. the question is whether the polls are a ceiling or a floor. as for this whole rebranding of authentic mitt you know it's
possible obviously that this could work. but, you know i'm stuck on the fact that a lot of what people are talking about, mitt supporters are saying focus on poverty. we'll change our focus here change our focus there. that's just a communication strategy. it could very well be when the american public vote in 2012 what they didn't like was his policy portfolio, not how he talked about his policy portfolio. what the mitt campaign probably has to do is articulate what specific policies he will now champion as opposed to 2012 that will alleviate poverty and help us on the world stage. >> with the caveat these polls are early and the numbers will all change we don't even know if all of those people are running. if you're running in the republican field, candidate x, which name on that list x, scares you the most and, b, which one has you licking your chops? are you anxious to go after mitt
romney if you're a democratic candidate? >> i think if you look at mitt romney, i know the winning playbook on this one. it's on the shelf. all i need to do is take it off and dust it off a little bit. i tend to believe that republicans are going to more likely nominate somebody from outside of washington. i think a governor like a scott walker who has had a good couple of weeks. i think chris christie will get a pretty solid look at this. i think somebody like a jeb bush. i think if they do go with somebody in washington i think clearly marco rubio has had a good few weeks. i think rand paul is somebody that's going to have to be dealt with throughout this process. so i think there's -- that's a small number. look, the truth and reality is republicans have a remarkably deep bench this time. that might work against mitt romney. last time he beat a very very weak field of basically herman kaine, newt gingrich and who is
that other guy? >> can't remember the third. >> have all of you seen "american sniper"? >> yes. >> twice. >> twice? >> good stuff. >> yeah. >> liked it right? >> i -- well, as a movie, yeah. yeah. >> what else was it? >> it wasn't such a good play. >> what the heck was that? >> as a story based of a character on a real person and a real book it doesn't accurately reflect the book nor the real character. >> wow. >> okay. >> i mean i'm just -- >> which part of it does it not accurately reflect. >> he makes me tired today. >> he's talking to michael moore. >> the film depicting chris kyle which ayman has detailed issues with has already won over audiences in the u.s. raking in more than $200 million since the release but it's also reportedly thrilling audiences
in baghdad. some viewers got so into the film they began shouting out during the screening. the global post reported one moviegoer yelling "shoot him." he has an ied, don't want -- don't wait for permission. he continued saying i love watching war movies because especially now they give me the strength to face the islamic state. the film only ran for one week at a popular upscale mall management ended the film's run -- management ended the film's run because of the controversy surrounding the killing of muslims. >> willie? >> doesn't sound like a terribly scientific study. one guy stood up and yelled. >> i actually read the nbc news story and it was the audience was yelling shoot him, shoot him, when the little kid -- when the little kid was walking towards him. of course i thought it was so fascinating. we were sitting in the audience. what do you want to do? in baghdad, the nbc news story said the audience was yelling, shoot him, he's got an ied.
>> tells you something about the iraqi associate the. >> i thought it was fascinating. >> interesting. >> yeah. there have been enough people blown up by innocent-looking, you know discusssuspects. it was fascinating. ayman? >> go ahead. go ahead. if. >> if you don't know the true story, it was a great movie. tremendously entertaining. a lot of value. >> i want to hear what you think the value is. >> it's a story if you in fact as the director was saying a story about post traumatic stress disorder how they come home return to society is posed with a lot of problems and chal challenge challenges. from that perspective it is compelling and thought-provoking, emotional moving p. >> but? >> when you juxtapose it to the real chris kyle -- >> you're talking about the stories when he was back home in texas which may have not been true? >> a lot of his own personal
opinions about what he was doing in iraq, how he viewed iraqis. some people described as his racist ten racist tendencies when he was going on killing sprees in iraq on assignment. i think there are issues -- >> killing sprees? chris kyle was going on killing sprees? >> when he was involved in his -- on assignments in terms of what he was doing. >> right. >> a lot of the description that has come out from this book and some of the terminology that he has used people have described as racist. in his personal attitudes about what he was doing overseas when he was on assignment. >> i think a lot of guys when they're in warfare might say things they shouldn't say. i know we said certainly quite a few things about the japanese and i'm sure the japanese said quite a few things about us. listen. i didn't know the guy. i mean you know. i only know what i know through, you know bradley cooper and reading a lot of what -- that
interaction goes. >> yeah. >> war is ugly. >> i thought it was a powerful movie. i love the fact it had both theaters, what happened in iraq what happened at home. that was important. they showed him early on what happened on 9/11. and then he obviously went to iraq. it drew the link between what we did in iraq was a response to 9/11. i wish once in the movie one of his fellow soldiers basically said, hey, don't you know that iraq was not involved in 9/11? and then he could have said yeah, but politics is for somebody else but i care about protecting myself, protecting you, the other guys in my unit. i just once someone had raised the connection about iraq and 9/11. >> it wasn't a commentary about the war. it wasn't about the politics of the war. it was a character study. >> it was such a good movie. >> you don't have to like him and the comments about him calling iraqis savages. he was calling the people he was shooting savages. he was calling people who he thought were going to kill his
buddies savages. he didn't -- some people have seized on that term that he thought all iraqis or everyone in the middle east is a savage. that's just not what he said. he was talking about the people he was fighting in the theater calling them savages. when we come back ayman is going to kick around santa claus. >> i understand -- >> no. first of all, i'm like you. i don't know -- >> you can hate santa claus if you want to. >> i think this is a fascinating conversation. >> i do too. he's trying to cheapen it. >> what happens when young men are sent to war and are sent to kill and to fight the enemy and how do you not develop hatreds and confusion about people? i mean how can you completely label somebody when they're put in a position like that? i think it takes a look at just how devastating that all can be on the brain. >> yeah. >> so i think everybody's point is valid here. that's why the movie is good. >> i think so too. >> it sparked a national discussion into that it
certainly is a good movie. >> very good. >> the thing is it actually -- this movie has done well and we said it before has done so well because you finally have a character study of a guy who went off to war, who doesn't get painted as a beast or is some dark savage himself and hollywood has real trouble making those type of movies. now, they've made one now where they're not ashamed to show that there were a lot of great men and women in iraq and afghanistan that were brave, that were proud, that sacrificed themselves not only for their buddies but for iraqi people. you know? >> or how about men who go and come back completely changed. >> yeah. >> exactly. >> on the phone talking to his wife in the middle of a battle. that to me was the most powerful scene in the movie. bringing those two worlds together. >> a lot of people think this was a ra-rah war film. i went to a screening at ft.
drum in new york here. and there was no screaming and cheering when he was killing people. it was interesting to watch. active duty and vets sitting in a room watching this movie. they didn't stand up and say, yeah he shot that guy in the head from 2100 yards away. harp watching it as reflection of what they had been through. when they saw him at home and struggling so hard with his family and to reintegrate into society. there were people crying, not cheering in that theater. >> okay. >> the next segment is going to be equally moving. miss universe. >> paulina vega. >> she's here? >> she will be here. and then model/actress molly simms and beth stern. they will be mika's co-hosts for the half hour. >> i'm going to come back today. >> willie is -- >> i'm actually free if you want to talk about politics. >> put that back up because willie -- so willie you say you're going to come back. >> i think it's -- ayman, too. >> i think it's going to be fun.
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president raul castro says the u.s. has to return to the naval base at guantanamo bay before ties between cuba and the u.s. can be normalized. castro made his remarks during a summit in costa rica. also adding the land is quote, illegally occupied. >> i love this. >> so far u.s. officials have not responded. the military base at guantanamo base was established after it was leased to the u.s. as part of a treaty in 1993. >> okay. so we decide finally to open up another making demands. >> he also asks true story for full reparations for the embargo. >> it is so good you know our negotiations with cuba iran. these things always work out well for us. >> let's go to the next story now. >> panama canal. >> fantastic -- >> panama canal, so awesome. noriega acted so well. >> just reach out the hand. "the washington post," while the economy appears to have picked up new census data shows a staggering one in five or 16
million american children currently rely on food stamps. that number is up from the beginning of the recession in 2007 when about 9 million children were on snap as it's called now. last year a bill cut funding for the nutritional assistant program. $8.5 billion eliminating benefits for 850,000 people. >> let's go to "the guardian" the copilot was in control of airasia flight 850 when it crashed in december. indonesia's safety committee says the french first officer was flying the plane when it plunged into the java sea. the plane vanished from radar screens approximately 40 minutes into the flight. transportation officials say the aircraft was in good condition and all crew members were properly certified. >> just so many plane crashes in asia. >> right in that area too. >> in that area. i guess this morning early this morning they finally officially
declared that the malaysian flight was lost. >> wow. >> about 12 more months of cover by certain networks. those two flight airasia it's no not a safe place to fly. >> "st. louis post dispatcher," a shoving match broke out wednesday night during a meeting to discuss policing in the city following the shooting death of michael brown. the city is considering a bill that would create a civilian oversight board of the police department. the meeting was the first public hearing on that matter. for nearly an hour the proceedings went fine but the scene eventually evolved into chaos when police officers began speaking in opposition of the bill. when the police union leader called for order the pushing and shoving began. the police association believes the bill is unfair towards officers while many citizens say the department needs a new form of accountability. >> so everything is going well until the police actually got
their say? >> yeah. >> and the police get their say and then suddenly a riot breaks out inside the courthouse? i guess cops are supposed to just sit back and do absolutely nothing. and just -- just take it. it's unbelievable. it is unbelievable. the national narrative over the past six months has been disgraceful towards cops. >> i don't disagree with that. i think it's been an unfair conversation. a lot of good points to be made. a lot of very real feelings out there. but my god look at what they have to do for a living and let's try and understand where they're coming from and meet in the middle. "usa today," mcdonald's named a new ceo, steve easter easterbrook easterbrook, as sales continue to slide. the news drove the fast food giant stock up 3%. in after hours trading. the decision comes after months of sharp drops in sales and mounting criticism over worker compensation. mcdonald's has more than 36,000 locations in over 100 countries. >> it's a tough business. >> very. >> the ceo who is leaving, i
think has done a pretty remarkable job in converting the mcdonald's that we grew up with in '60s '70s, '80s, my kids still, they go to mcdonald's for coffee. i ask why. they say, it's cheaper. >> it's good. >> it's the best coffee. the fact that people are saying that about mcdonald's, also salads, i know they go there for salads, too. there has been a remarkable transformation transformation. >> you look at pepsi and mcdonald's and other fast food industries, they have to make the transition from all these different addictive substances that made people want to buy their food in a way that nobody knew was you know necessarily impacting society as badly as it was and now they're trying to make a transition to healthier food. that's hard. >> a lot of people are doing a good job. pepsi is one of them. >> for three years the profits
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explanations dominate speculation about what obama is up to. the first is he's trying to lay the groundwork for his successor, presumptive nominee hillary clinton. the second is that he's trying to pad his legacy. the third is that he's trying to troll or bait the gop into debating his agenda rather than pursuing its own are all plausible. but there's a fourth idea. disagreement of him is proof of ignorance, bad faith, or dog what tichl. negotiating requires acknowledging that people who disagree with you have a legitimate point of view. i agree with jonah. that's why i want to go to you first to refute it. >> i would not agree completely. i think since we've had, since woodrow wilson quite a few presidents who were sure they were right and were sure others were wrong. i think if you look at the way president obama has approached his agenda his ideas, for example, he wanted to do
universal health care, he picked a republican idea that came out of the heritage foundation and was first implemented by mitt romney in massachusetts. so it's not as if he had refused to acknowledge that there are good ideas from the other side of the aisle. >> so, systemam stein, what do you think of this argument that president obama is trolling or lay the groundwork for hillary clinton, something in between or all of the above? >> it's obvious that the president that emerged after the 2014 elections is not the president that republicans thought would emerge after the 2014 elections. you know he has gone forward with his immigration plan. he's got this deal with cuba. he's continuing to pursue iran negotiations. this all ticks off republicans in congress who assume that the elections would deliver many. but gene's points are valid and sort of go against what jonah is talking about here. it's not just health care where he adopted --
>> oh, guys i can't hear that twice. i cannot hear that twice. >> for two years -- hold on. >> that he adopted the republican plan for health care. you're going back to mitt romney. he didn't -- he did not engage republicans at all in health care. they were shut out. it was a democrats that were running it. >> hold on. >> i have now -- i have now -- i've protested. you guy goes back to your -- i'm going the sit here and sip. >> i was talking about for two years, joe -- >> just to correct the record. just to correct the record there were many instances during the health care fight when the president struggled to get republicans to try to get republicans to sign on to ideas they had proposed. >> but robert -- the president struggled -- >> that was years ago. you know that was some time ago. and -- >> my point is let's bring in our third person that's going to disagree with me. robert gibbs. >> you don't know if he will. >> robert gibbs, this president has not -- it has seem to a lot
of neutral observers that this president has said this is my position. now you come to me. i'm going to keep arguing and debateing until you come to me. it seems he did it in the state of the union address. am i wrong? look at all the liberals surrounding me. >> i don't know why you picked bringing me into this argument to think i was going to agree with you on this. >> i don't. i have six liberal on this show to keep it fair. >> well, so maybe if you go back to jonah's list it appears as if the trolling and baiting argument has worked pretty well on you. so maybe that is exactly what the president was trying to do. >> it hasn't worked on me will at all. i'm right and you're wrong and everything is fine. i'm supposed to sit here and listen to you guys say that the president's plan to turn health care over to the government is a republican idea. you guys can live in that fantasy world if you want. i'll sit here and smile. >> it's not just health care. there was a two-year period
after the 2010 elections in which the president did try to meet republicans when it came to deficit reduction. a whole pursuit of this big deficit reduction bill with john boehner boehner. that was a deal largely on republican terms. it's not what democrats wanted. >> the president created a commission to deal with the debt and then he himself authored it. >> so did paul ryan though. what are we talking about? the whole concept of deficit reduction was inherently a republican concept in 2011 and the president went after. he angered a lot of liberals in his own party over that. are we not going to acknowledge that was not a movement toward bane boehner's direction? >> we're going to acknowledge that we will agree to disagree and we're never going to get anywhere on this topic. let's move to another topic. >> "american sniper." >> jeffrey goldberg do you hate "american sniper" and the american flag, too? >> no.
>> let's go -- let's go -- i wasn't talking about you. i was talking about the person over there. so let's go to jeffrey goldberg writes in "the atlantic," the netanyahu disaster. people are tweeting probably some don't know we're very good friends and they don't understand that we're joking and having a great time. >> that's the thing. people feel you pick on me sometimesnd i want to -- i have to make it clear that -- we are friends. and that you are picking on me. i will accept it. i will accept it. it's called "morning joe." >> you tell your mother i'm sorry she thinks i'm picking on you. >> you need to stop it. >> sam stein's mother sorry to to -- saw her at a party. she choked me. >> not true. >> i know. i love her. i'm sure i would love your mom. >> hurry. >> the netanyahu disaster by jeffrey goldberg can you read this? >> faced with an american president who he believes is willing to strike a flawed deal with iran.
netanyahu has made the second worst choice he could make. he has not attacked iran which is good. an israeli attack holds the promise of disaster. but he has decided to ruin his relations with obama. the manner and execution and overall tone-deafness of netanyahu's recent ploy suggests that he and his current ambassador don't understand how to manage israel's relationships in washington. netanyahu wants a role in shaping the iranian nuclear agreement should one materialize. his recent actions suggest that he doesn't quite know what he's doing. do you agree? >> richard haass, jeffrey goldberg, not exactly anti-israel. i mean this criticism is especially stinging i think coming from jeffrey who has been -- in my opinion, very fair towards israel when other journalists haven't been. >> it should be tough and it should be. it should be aimed at the prime minister of israel has behaved
badly here. this is not something you should do. and the speaker of the house has behaved badly. foreign policy cannot be conducted through the prism of israeli domestic politics or american domestic politics. >> why did boehner do it? why is netanyahu doing it? >> it comes on the eve of the israeli elections. he sees it will help him. beating netanyahu i believe has made the strategic decision that the next two years relationship with the united states will do an end run around the white house. >> he's discounting it. >> gene robinson can you think of -- you've been in washington and around the world a very long time. can you think of another example of something like this happening? >> absolutely not. i mean this is really unprecedented. this sort of, you know invitation from the speaker of the house to a foreign leader to address a joint session in this manner. it's just wrong. he shouldn't have done it. i don't know what john boehner was thinking. >> let's bring in robert gibbs. robert what do you think?
>> well, i think -- i'm struck by what richard said. i'm struck by what former ambassador michael orrin said. i wonder if the prime minister looks back at this and doesn't think now that the costs greatly exceed the benefits. i think something in like foreign policy and diplomacy to do something like this where the costs greatly exceed the benefits in your relationship with your best and strongest ally, i think is a bad move to make. >> the ability to manage the most important bilateral relationship is critical. netanyahu is taking a big risk here because this could backfire here if he's seen as mismanaging. >> eugene robinson, thank you. coming up meet the man who would have been running the entire country if something catastrophic had happened at the capital last tuesday night. transportation secretary anthony foxx joins us next on "morning joe."
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complain. how things are crumbling. >> it's bad. >> what are the dangers of not coming up with a long-term plan to rebuild america's infrastructure. this is a republican idea by the way. i was the one who started the enter state system. >> yeah, the problem is that projects are not getting done. so whether it's maintaining bridges and roadways or whether it's building new capacity to reduce congestion i think most american people are starting to see longer travel times. >> that's why, mika the latest nbc/"wall street journal" poll, the fourth, i think, the fourth item listed right below jobs isis, and forget the third one, the fourth was rebuild america's infrastructure. when you start seeing that up there it is -- we're at a tipping point now and americans are sick and tired of crumbling roads. >> what is it doing to take? is it go going to make a massive bridge collapse or something like that? aren't we at a crisis point right now? >> we are at a crisis point. we've had bridge collapses. >> i know we've had sefrlt. >> minnesota.
>> yes. >> i'm talking catastrophic. >> i'm encouraged by some of the bipartisan signals we're hearing from washington that this is one of the things that people feel like they can agree on. but the proof is in the pudding. congress has got to do something. >> do we need a gas tax? >> why don't we do it that way? >> we believe you can do it through business tax reform. we put a proposal out there to increase money in infrastructure doing that. we've also said we will listen to what congress coalesces behind. >> all right. >> raise a lot moremone money with gas tax. >> drones. >> this is important. there's no law right now. these drones are just out there and there's more and more of them and nobody knows what to do with them or how to control them or what rules to put around them. >> we are working with the faa and the omb on a rule on small uas drones. and we think that rule will move forward. >> you need to hurry because my dad has one. >> does he? >> yes.
>> he has that one. that wasn't him, i promise. >> okay. fantastic. can we find your dad, though. >> we all read tom clancy novels. we all see the nightmare of the plane crashing in to the state of the union address and there's one dude sitting in another undisclosed location and he takes over america if there's a catastrophic event in the state of the union. that was you this year. >> yes. >> where do they hide you? >> i can't say. >> come on. where do they hide you? make it interesting. >> what's it like? >> at a hardee's? >> they have an undisclosed location. they feed you a nice meal. that's about all i can say about it. >> you were watching espn instead of the state of the union address, weren't you? >> i watched the address. i watched the address. >> i had to do it. >> anthony foxx. great to see you. got to get back to charlotte, one of our favorite cities. coming up here on "morning joe," the witch hunt against the new eng grand patriots.
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♪ all right. welcome back to "morning joe." it is the top of the hour. it's going to be a beautiful morning. >> beautiful. >> a little cold but beautiful. ayman is still with us. >> good lord. >> not sure how that happened. >> who are you going to kick around. >> i'm wait for security to come and grab me. >> along with sam stein. >> we're having a robust debate. even in the commercial break. >> robert gibbs. join the conversation senior editor of the news website, gideon
gideon. >> welcome back. >> very nice. >> excited to be here. >> you can tell. >> he saw what happened to me. i'm not sure. >> stiff upper lip. >> just in politico's mike allen reportering in the playbook that hillary clinton may wait until july to formally launch a presidential bid with a weak democratic field, clinton could sit back and develop her staff and message. as mike points out, it keeps her out of the fray that much longer and some allies are considering the possibility she may not have to debate before the general election. with us now, political reporter from the "new york times" amy. very good to have you onboard. you write about another dynamic in play here. in the "new york times." here's part of it. they have called senator elizabeth warren an extremely attractive candidate in 2016 presidential campaign. they have said that she is the hottest commodity in the democratic party. those glowing compliments are not from the liberal activists who are trying to persuade ms.
warren to challenge ms. clinton. they come from conservatives who are eager to drum up contentious democratic primary and who see ms. warren as best positioned to weaken and potentially defeat mrs. clinton. amy, it is kind of a ploy to ulz try and bring in someone who they think will mess up the parade. >> is that what you're doing? >> mischief going on here. i don't think mike huckabee and michele bachmann are swooning or elizabeth warren because of her policies. >> what do they make of her? do they think she can't win and she's so far left she would be good mix in with hillary clinton just to bring hillary down? >> i think there's an element of that. maybe the way democrats see congressman ted cruz. but i also think that they just see -- mike allen's store i have this morning, they see hillary clinton getting an easy ride in the democratic primary. on their own side they see a wide field of republicans and long ideological battle and they would like hillary clinton to have to be tested to have to spend the money, to also as we saw in the midterms elizabeth
warren can push hillary clinton to the left in an uncomfortable way. hillary clinton got off message talking about don't let anybody tell you that it's business corporations that create jobs. i think republicans seized on that moment, hey warren could really get her off message. >> let's talk about mike allen's report today. you've been covering all things clinton for a long time. so much so when you go to bathroom stalls of the clinton initiative they send swarms of handlers at you to make sure that you -- >> bathroomgate. >> yes. >> it is a true story. kind of taking sort of the control freak thing to a bizarre level. but what do you make of this story mike allen is breaking this morning does it sound feasible? have you heard any talk about this? >> i definitely have heard talk she could push it to the summer. i did something in mike allen's report that i also heard is that she could launch this exploratory committee in april.
allow her to raise money and set up infrastructure. legal bureaucracy things she has to work out in the campaign and then start with the big splashy declaration in the summer. i also hear from people who say iowans want her here soon. yeah she came to the steak fry and she kind of was cool and they said, hey, just ask for our vote. they're tough there. i think they would like to see her there before the summer. >> amy, you write about republicans perhaps being excited about elizabeth warren getting in a race versus hillary clinton. how are democrats feeling about that idea and the idea of hillary clinton running with a clear field? doesn't it make her a better candidate if she can have to fight a little bit and stay on her toes so she's not sitting there at the line waiting for it to begin? >> image of inechtibility that hurt her at the last time and clinton allies say it would be so great if she had someone seriously challenging her in a primary. she would have to go through the
debates and make her a better candidate. we saw during her book tour there were some clumsiness in interviews and interactions that she could work through in a primary. >> so given what amy just said joe, is it possible some republicans who are using elizabeth warren in this way are wrong about elizabeth warren? >> i think elizabeth warren could bring a lot of excitement to the democratic party. i think most importantly, she would make hillary clinton a better candidate going into the general election. but any republican that is trying to stop the field from being cleared, i think is actually doing the republican party a disservice because i think like everybody said like you suggested, willie a tough debate a tough campaign makes you better. hillary clinton was horrific at the beginning of her campaign against barack obama. but by this spring she was great. >> i think the republicans had that problem several times and the time that we've been on the airborne where the field was so
weak. >> yeah. and if nobody is in the field and if you're not debating then you make your first mistake in the fall of 2016 in the debate around that's a nightmare for hillary, it's a nightmare for the democratic party. the first time i ran we had 11 people, i think, running. independents republicans, all killing each other. and the democrat had nobody on his side. >> yeah. >> and by the time we get past the primary in september, we were running and gunning, had this extraordinary -- i made all of my stupid mistakes a year earlier. my opponent made all of his stupid mistakes in the three months before the election. and he was supposed to win. i ended up getting 62% of the vote. and i've always believed that's because he ran unopposed. and, you know, he didn't have a preseason. >> i think it also helped this book tour which everyone calls so disastrous for hillary clinton, willie that's another way of weeding out what doesn't work. the page turns so unbelievably
abruptly in politics. >> i think she -- >> she'll have a good answer about her personal wealth i'm sure after the book tour. >> that will be forgotten. >> and day marriage and all the other things she stumbled. >> and the middle class. >> i wonder if elizabeth warren wants to be the one to serve that purpose. she's been supportive of hillary clinton. she signed on to support hillary's campaign. does she want to be the one to put some dents in her? >> i don't think she does. i think she wants to be talked about but you've got a guy like james webb ready for a fight. >> i think elizabeth warren wants to be drive that conversation and she's sort of gotten behind a hillary campaign but not whole heartedly. she wants to be drive that conversation. i would just say in her 2003 book senator warren did take some shots at hillary clinton. so she's done a it before. >> all right. mitt romney is atop the polls and back on the road. new poll shows him out front of jeb bush and scott walker in
south carolina. though the most recent new hampshire polling is from november, it too, shows romney leading the pact. last night the two-time presidential candidate was at mississippi state university talking to students and testing out the themes he would use should he go for a third presidential campaign. the event was closed to cameras but reporters on hand said he seemed looser. he admitted he was thinking about running again, even discussing his mormon faith. something he reported to devil in to in 2012. he took shots at the president's agenda calling out hillary clinton by name. he also spoke about eliminating poverty in america from the heart of the poorest state in the country. >> sam stein, mitt romney's been talking about the possibility of making a decision over the next couple of weeks. you look at yet another poll this time in south carolina. a state where he didn't do so
well before because a lot of team whispered because he was a mormon and that just -- south carolina said that didn't work. he's in first place in south carolina. he's in first place in new hampshire. he's in first place in iowa. that either speaks to his strength all these years later or the weakness of the rest of the field. do you think he's going to go? >> well, the polls are certainly inviting, right? if you look at that in your mitt romney you think to yourself i have an obvious path to victory. the one bit of caution i would throw on there is that he's by definition the most well-known republican in the field. he ran for president last time. folks in south carolina are particularly familiar with scott walker at this juncture. two things. one, he's clearly, if he does run he's clearly leaning more into his biography than he did in 2012 talk about his mormon faith. as i read in reports from yesterday's speech, openly talking about his own book which can be an uncomfortable topic. the last thing we were talking about is how elizabeth warren
might affect the democratic race. it seems that elizabeth warren is affecting the democratic race and republican race. i can't imagine that mitt romney would make poverty and income inequality such a prominent focus of his potential campaign if it weren't for elizabeth warren's aft on the broader political conversation in general. income inequality is not something that republicans were talking about a lot in 2012. one thing that change sd that elizabeth warren came into the senate. >> let's didgideon, bring you in and talk about what's going on. israel hezbollah trade attacks. gop won't delay netanyahu talk. chaos in the middle east and also chaos in our political system. netanyahu coming to america. what's the impact? >> netanyahu coming to america? >> yes. israel for the peace process. >> i think in israel the way this is perceived is that he is trying to bolster his popularity
there ahead of the election by going against obama who the israelis see as basically an enemy of israel. whether that will work or not is debatable. it could backfire. some israelis, oh, no you're alienating our best ally the united states. i think netanyahu is playing a dangerous game there. whether or not that will play out, we will see. >> it is mainly about the iranian negotiations right? >> yes. he wants to derail the iranian negotiation because he thinks that looking tough on iran will help him get votes. >> what is the state of the iranian negotiations from everything that you've seen or heard? >> i mean it seems to me as if it's going -- it's proceeding slowly but it's proceeding. i feel like this people involved in the negotiations really think they have a chaps of getting a deal. and ultimately we only know that works when it's resolved when a deal is reached. but whether or not that prevents iran from developing a bomb or something, we don't know.
>> ayman, obviously some americans being criticized from the right for negotiating with iran and iran some iranian leaders have been criticized for talking to walking with john kerry. these negotiations fraught on both sides a lot of political pitfalls. >> you have hawks from the iranian government and particularly the revolutionary guard. many of them don't want to see iran enter into these talks with the united states. and more importantly, feel that any kind of deal may be giving up too much of iranian sovereignty to international demands just before the lifting of the economic sanctions. there is definitely that factor as well that's shaping iran from their right. >> what about some of the things we saw, the attack from hezbollah out in lebanon against israel. just for our people watching, what's happening right now in that part of the world? >> about ten days ago israel carried out a strike in syria that killed a hezbollah commander and iranian general. since then hezbollah has been
vowing to revenge and retaliate for that attack. it seems that retaliation happened yesterday in that attack in which two israeli soldiers killed, seven wounded. it was a limited attack in the serns it did not broaden out a full-scale war. it seems early indications both sides want to contain this. they don't want to have a repeat of 2006 where it was a full-blown war between the two sides. for the time being, there was an israeli response immediately, artillery fire and shelling but it doesn't look like this is going to go full bleenown. one more story. yesterday, 54 years after nine men were imprisoned for a peaceful anti-segregation protest, their convictions were vacated by a judge in south carolina. the men were arrested for sitting at a restaurant in rock hill back in 1961. their decision to serve their sentence and work on a chain gang spurred the jail no bail movement in the south. after the ruling the judge told
the men he quote, we cannot rewrite history but we can right history. >> the flawed and unconstitutional evidence upon -- >> reporter: in a packed courthouse on an emotional day the men known as friendship nine finally had their convictions overturned. 54 years after they were jailed for sitting at a whites only lunch counter. >> defendants' convictions for trespassing in january of 1961 are vacated. >> reporter: the story of the friendship nine began in the early 1960s when african-americans risked beatings and arrests to sit at segregated lunch counters in the jim crow south. in rock hill south carolina a group of students from friendship college came here to the then five and dime to sit in these chairs at this counter to challenge segregation. >> i remember being grabbed up by my belt and thrown to the floor and dragged out of the
store. >> by whoomm? >> police officers. >> reporter: the protesters were then dragged to jail. >> the part that got me is when they put me in the cell and closed that door. and that cling. you can still hear it. >> reporter: what happened next after that cell door slammed would define the friendship nine and re-energize the american civil rights movement. instead of paying bail to get out, the friend ship nine chose to serve their 30-day sentence of hard labor, drawing lots of attention. the effort to have their sentences overturned was inspired by children's author kimberly johnson who wrote a book about them. >> now we get a chance to see that justice does find its way back. >> reporter: in court the south carolina solicitor spoke directly to the friendship nine. >> so allow me to take this opportunity to extend to each of you my heartfelt apologies for what happened to you in 1961. it was wrong. >> i have chills. that's amazing.
>> incredible story. >> that's an incredible story. >> another remarkable piece of poetry in this story. the circuit court judge yesterday vacated the sentence and conviction was the nephew of the judge who sentenced these guys 54 years ago. same family. the story comes around. >> unbelievable. still ahead on "morning joe," miss universe paulina vega is here and thomas roberts will escort her to the set of monlg to protect her from me? wait a minute. why? >> of course. >> i do like to try on the crowns because i had this secret dream when i was a child that never was fulfilled. >> what's that that you were going to steal a queen's crown? weird dream. then actress and model molly sims joins us at 8:30 to teach us to train like a supermodel? but first, football head injuries are really hurting kids under twvl. there's also a big campaign to get moms involved with football to understand the safety measures. we'll talk about that as well. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back.
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♪ a new study has found that nfl veterans who began playing football before age 12 developed more severe cognitive problems than those who started when they were older. boston university school of medicine distributed mental tests to 42 former nfl players suffering mental disorders. players who began playing tackle football before age 12 scored lower on the tests than those who began later. earlier studies by the same researchers found that children are more likely to experience prolonged recovery issues from concussions. >> when did you start playing? >> fifth grade. >> explains everything. >> i started at 8 which explains a lot. my parents put me in a league as an 8-year-old with like 12-year-old kids. it was like a big difference. >> these studies are giving teams and parents a lot of information to work with.
front page of the "new york times" today, the program for moms to learn the safety measures that are now -- they actually play what safety measures they're putting in place to prevent the injuries. >> it may not look cool, but, you know i see these football helmets now where they practice where they have protection on the outside. that may not make people feel cool, i think that's what they have to move to. >> i don't know. even in the nfl now, practices are lighter. they trust they're going to hit on sunday but they don't hit on wednesday, thursday, and friday. they just don't. they shell drills. they're trying. it will be interesting to see if this -- this changes are happening now where kids are starting to play soccer. when do we start to see that in the nfl or do we? my hunch is that the level of athlete who plays in the nfl, whether it's in florida or texas or southern california, they're not playing soccer. they're going to keep playing football. >> what about george w. is he going to play football? >> i think growing up in new york city you're less likely to play football because there's no space, nowhere to play.
tough call. if i had a choice probably wouldn't have him play football. >> would you? >> no. >> knowing what i know now. >> grew up in the south. i mean football was king. and i -- our entire life. not only were the falls spent playing football springs. we didn't play -- you weren't allowed to play baseball. you played fall football and spring football and in the summer, you lifted weights. it was 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, all year long. and it was our life. and we absolutely loved it. but, no i don't think i would. not right now. until other saufity measures are taken. now while we're on the topic of football now to one of the most talked about aspects of the super bowl, the ads. nbc universal says all the commercial slots have sold out to about 70 advertisers. >> wow. >> they're going for about $4.5 million a pop. this year's lineup will feature the first ever super bowl commercial on domestic violence. it is a chilling public service
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>> okay. according to -- >> how smart was she, by the way? >> brilliant. according to the "wall street journal" and desperate situation obviously, the nfl financed the spot and donated airtime to run it. that's smart. >> that's good. >> a lot of levels. >> very good timing. >> finally. >>nd there are a lot of ads that are going to break through, too. that obviously is waiting. >> oh, no. we're going to have a good time. budweiser hope for another hit. they unleashed the new lost dog ad. like last year it features the bond between a clydesdale and cute little puppy. ♪ when i go out i know i'm going to be ♪ ♪ i'm going to be the man who goes along with you ♪
♪ i'll walk 300 miles ♪ ♪ and i'll walk 500 more ♪ >> willie i miss the budweiser ferret. i want the bid wiser ferret to come back. >> he wants bud's mackenzie back toos. >> it already received over 5 million views. meantime go daddy has pulled its ad that was supposed to be a riff on the budweiser spot. >> really? godaddy, they go for it. can we see it? >> yeah. it was a immediate backlash when it was released when the critics slamming the portrayal of the lost puppy reuniting with its owner. >> look it's buddy! i'm so glad you made it home. because i just sold you on this website i built with godaddy. ship him out. >> awful. just awful. >> now, that's an ad. why did they pull that? >> she looks like -- what's that
movie? >> "fatal attraction"? >> yes. >> that little puppy finds it all of the way back home. >> genius strategy. they put it out there. they get all of this attention and then pull it and then run something else. >> don't have to pay the millions of dollars. >> they're going to run a different ad. have the second one ready to go. >> godaddy. >> they do it. >> they released a statement -- >> and so the dude's drinking beer like that. dude. >> hey. >> i'm going to build a website. >> all right. godaddy released a statement saying it underestimated the emotional response to the ad and decided to pull it once the controversy began to swirl. >> those goless thedaddy, did you like it? >> i liked it a lot. it was harsh. it was awesome. coming up why senator pat toomey may be the sweetest man in washington. >> i don't understand. please explain. that's weird. >> yes. >> i think that's inappropriate. >> sweet and adorable. we'll be right back.
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here onset, former cia station chief of islamabad, pakistan and former director of the cia counter terrorism center robert grnwa, he's out with a book "88 days to kandahar a cia diary," wow. >> pat toomey how are we doing right now and what a lot of republicans still dall war on terror? >> i don't think it's going so well, joe. i'm pretty worried about this right now. of course, with right in the front of us in the banking committee is a question of whether or not to prospectively impose tougher sanctions on iran if iranians choose for the third consecutive time to talk away from the able to and not reach an agreement. i think it was a mistake to ease the sanctions recently. andic we should impose these sanctions. you know these guys this is the most dangerous regime in the world. actively supporting and financing terrorism. you look at what they're doing throughout the middle east
continuing to effectively control hezbollah. they've got a huge footprint in syria as well as iraq. they're supporting assad while he massacres his own people. last week they knocked out through proxies a government that was pretty cooperative with the united states and yemen. they're doing this all awhile we're supposed to be negotiating an agreement and the president tells us don't pass even conditional prospective sanctions because it might offend the iranians and they might leaf the table. that's a pretty worrying sign about how committed they are to reaching an agreement. >> robert, we sit and we talk about isis. we talk about iran. we talk about obviously the chaos that's been going on in the middle east for a decade. but you talk to foreign policy experts quietly off the record. and they will always tell you there's one country they are the most concerned about, it's a country you've written about. pakistan. tell us about your book. >> well, this is -- it's hard it's adventure story. it takes us from the point immediately after 9/11 when we
were suddenly confronted with what are we going to do in afghanistan, one of most remote primitive countries in the world, terrorist safe haven. how do we address it the situation. nd i was called upon by george tenet at the time to put together a template for how we would conduct this war. and it was approved by the president and we rolled forward. in the early days we were quite successful. >> one frustration after another with pakistan. what a complex relationship, where the pakistanis didn't trust us because they thought we went back on our word time and time again. then we get there and pay billions of dollars to musharraf, feel like he betrayed us. explain the relationship. are they an ally an enemy, what are they? >> it's a very complicated relationship. >> yes. >> and we're sort of condemned to deal with each other. there are issues that affect us both, but we perceive our national interests in very different ways. so while the pakistanis
after 9/11 they consider it to be in their interest to cooperate with us against al qaeda, their attitude toward the afghan taliban was much, much more koch my indicatecomplicated. >> i think i saw a pew poll op countries across the world and what they thought about us. i i think we were at the bottom of the pakistanis. >> they have a very negative impression of us. >> why? >> it dates back decades. virtually everything in south asia. they believe they helped us a great deal to drive the soviets out of afghanistan. then we turned our backs on them pep once . once again we decided that pakistanis were all right after 9/11. now our relationship with them is much more problematic. we've been spending years bombing their territory. great many pakistanis who take exception to that. >> let's bring pat toomey back in to this. pat, one of the great frustrations about the afghanistan war for me why i opposed tripling the troops in 2009 is because every expert we
had on here including at the time, richard holbrooke would come on and say why afghanistan? the answer was because of pakistan. >> right. >> i would say well, why aren't we in pakistan then? obviously we can't be in pakistan. but this is the on going frustration. we want to occupy afghanistan because of the problems with we have with pakistan. >> it's been maddening frustrating. obviously it's difficult to deal with a government when they're writ doesn't extend throughout the entire country. infiltrated with people extremely sympathetic to the taliban certainly. probably to al qaeda. enormous poverty. they've got nuclear weapons. it's just -- it's just very very difficult. no question about it. >> willie? >> first of all, for homeland fans, this is a real life kerry matt matteson. >> never seen the show? >> you should see it it will make you very angry but you should see it. there is this great moment in this past season where saul cia
director, is sitting there talking to the former head of the isi. i thought they really did get the very complex relationship. these two men who personally liked each other but couldn't be further apart on their views of the world. >> a lot of tension which i think existed in the real world and still does, too. i have to ask you, although you weren't there. 2002 i guess you left station chief. the issue of osama bin laden and where he was found, where he was killed, how long he had been there, and who might have been protecting him i side that country. knowing what you know about pakistan, what are your suspicions about the pakistani government's role or the isi's role in protecting osama bin laden? >> you know, the circumstantial evidence is pretty damning. here you have osama bin laden arguably the most wanted man in the world who is in a pakistani army town not a mile from the military academy of pakistan. and people believe that the
pakistanis had to have known about this. in fact, i believe they didn't. >> really? >> yes. >> you don't think the isi knew about it? >> i don't believe they did. i don't believe they did. the concern that i would have had at the time if it was my decision, go or no go launch this raid or not given the circumstances that we might actually wind up in a shooting war with pakistan as a result i would have said that we had to do this on a covert basis om -- not because i believe the isi and pakistan government placed him there and had him under their protection but they might have since then inadvertently found him there and in which case they would have done nothing simply because he was too hot to handle. for them to arrest him and turn it over to the americans would have been political dynamite in pakistan. >> so you think someone knew he was there. >> he had his own people. i felt all eye long once he got into pakistan with a small entourage he would be able to hide virtually anywhere indefinitely. it's really not all that difficult. and i think that's precisely what happened. in fact, the pakistanis named a
commission to look into this and it was so explosive that they never publicly revealed the results of the commission. it was leaked to the press. that's why we know about it now. but they concluded, they themselves, the members of the commission, were very very skeptical at the outset. but they concluded that in fact, nobody in the leadership structure knew that he was there. >> all right. and before we go senator pat toomey, you're the candy man. >> candy man. >> you are the guy. >> sweetest guy in d.c. >> exactly right. we've had a candy desk on the senate floor for over 50 years. now it is back where it belongs. the control of a senator from the state that is the leading confectioner in america. we have it very well stocked. >> i love it. >> suddenly i've become a more popular senator. i don't know why. >> who takes the most candy? >> i'm sworn to secrecy on that but i've got colleagues loading up the pockets. >> that's like mika. we rp at an event this weekend and mika -- grabbing stuff. scott walker --
>> he caught me. >> wondering whether -- >> no he caught me. he said his mom does that. >> senator pat toomey thank you so much. robert, thank you for being with us. fantastic. we would love to have you back. >> the book is "88 days to kandahar." thank you for sharing that with us. still ahead, miss universe paulina vega supermodel molly sims and beth stern who has to put up with a guy named howard every day. we'll be right back. when salesman alan ames books his room at laquinta.com, he gets a ready for you alert the second his room is ready. so he knows exactly when he can check in and power up before his big meeting. and when alan gets all powered up, ya know what happens? i think the numbers speak for themselves. i'm sold! he's a selling machine! put it there. and there, and there, and there. la quinta inns and suites
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strangers crashed my car, they ate my food, and they wore my pants. that sounds like the junior year of college for me. actually it's tales from the sharing economy. >> we launched joel stein to explore the new frontier. he rented his mini cooper to an italian woman who got into an accident. he cooked dinner for eight people put a pair of pants and hockey skates. and his life drew the line to giving over their house to air b and b. this is one of those shifts that creeps up on you and then you find that everything about the economy. air b and b when it first launched you couldn't get a venture capitalist to look at it. now valued at $13 billion which is half the size of hilton which actually owns hotels. >> anybody use air b and b here? sam, you're a millennial. i know that because you're in four fantasy football leagues, you play xbox all day. what is air b and b like?
are you into this sharing economy? i say that about my son, just joking. >> let me just pause for a second and absorb all of those criticisms. i've used air b and b. i really enjoyed the service. obviously depends on whose house or apartment you end up with. there's another user feedback to get a sense of where you're going. pictures and everything. >> try to sexually assault you? >> what are you talking about? >> geez, if they had i wouldn't talk about it on air, either. but, no that didn't happen. we went to a bar actually in new jersey. got to rehn out the bar. it was great. another element of sharing economy, on the bottom floor of the bar they were hosting this group cooking class that we just sort of crashed. it was a really wonderful experience. i enjoy it. i would recommend it to other people. >> we don't trust government we don't trust institutions. >> but we trust a complete stranger. >> yes. somehow the trust economy has
now taken hold in a way that uber is bigger than delta or viacom or fedex. these companies are growing so fast. >> my daughter just asked me for an uber account. >> willie you're a big sharer. >> uber. i haven't gone airbnb. whether or not we think it's uncomfortable or yucky, the proof is in the numbers. uber is valued at 41$41 billion. they're doing well. a lot of feel are using them. and i think it's one of those things nancy, where you -- it feels a little scary at first and then maybe five years from now everyone will be doing it. >> right. >> i don't think it's an accident that a lot of the founders of these companies came out of places like ebay which sort of -- the trust and safety rate each other mechanisms that got people over their suspicion and dealing with strangers. >> fascinating you say that because i may have bought something on ebay five years ago. >> right. >> now, no problem with it at all because you actually learn to trust the ratings. >> so i think the interesting thing here is unless i'm
mistaken, is uber sort of a middle ground between a cab and car service? >> it's a car service. very nice cars. >> not as expensive. >> you can do uber taxi too. >> what i am seeing here especially with hotels is i think people are getting sick of how ridiculously expensive fees are in hotels. >> yeah. >> it is a joke what they charge for. >> freelancers. what is happening now is you have professional cab drivers and people who casually use their car as an extra income source. you have actual hotel chains and then you have people turning their hotels. so at what point do you, mika, or you, joe, become a corporation. at what point do you have to abide by safety rules and disability access and all those sorts of regulations. this is where the big fight is. we have now reached -- the economy is mature enough the regulators and governments, private companies, are fighting back hard because potentially takes a huge bite out of established industries. >> are you a sharer? >> no. >> you don't like to share?
>> no. no. >> i understand. >> my sister and i still struggle over things. >> your sister is so nice. you must be the problem. >> i'm the younger bratty one. >> yeah. >> issues. >> you're not -- are you an uber guy? >> no. >> uh-uh. >> he won't do airbnb. >> no i don't want to wake up in a bathtub full of ice that says call 911, your liver has been taken. s that my fear. >> that happened to me once. >> someone is going to have keys to the apartment or get in and get your stuff. i don't know why, i just feel safer at a hotel. >> i'm scared at my own house let alone someone else. i've got to show this shot because it's a classic shot of a classic guy. boris, baby. iboris. he is p mayor of london. born in new york city. one day he might be p t. prime minister. >> he's cool. we're going the look for the new issue of "time" magazine. nancy gibbs, thank you. up next she was crowned miss universe. >> oh, yeah. >> but not without a bit of
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please come over to the center of the stage. and as you step forward, let me remind you that one of you is about to become miss universe. so take a deep breath. make a mental impresent, because this is a very special moment in your lives. okay? now if for any reason the new miss universe cannot fulfill her duty, the first runner-up will take over. and miss universe is -- colombia! >> i was nervous just watching that. >> that's amazing! >> that was miss colombia paulina vega crowned miss universe 2015. >> what happened to miss puerto rico? she collapsed? >> i don't know. she was my roommate i don't know. >> in the commercial break, right before. >> she's okay. i'm sure. >> they handed me the card and
i'm looking at the card and then i heard, ka-clump-clump, and then i look over an it's just hair and heels on the ground and i didn't know what happened. >> this happened actually to eamon before he came on-set. >> they told me they were going to want me on the show -- >> she's okay? are you sure? >> yes. of course, i'm sure. >> she just said she's okay in kind of a very confident way? >> it was a long show and a lot of pressure obviously. >> probably dehydrated. >> this was the very very end, but you soared through the competition, as i said earlier, added this "it" factor about you. >> a lot of people were disappointed jamaica did not make it further in the top five. did you see her as one of your biggest threats? >> of course of course. jamaica, the elegance very spontaneous. but the whole group, you can find prepared girls, intelligent, beautiful, so you never know what is going to
happen until the end. so -- >> she tripped on her dress right here. hold on. wait. oops. >> oh, come on come on. >> sorry. >> i can show you how to trip on a dress. >> so what was it like the week being down there with all of those wonderful women from all across the world and, of course the donald. >> of course. donald. i think he's hilarious. he's something -- something. it was great for me because i really feel like i was in colombia. i was real lucky, all the colombians and venezuelan people so i was really like comfortable. >> what did you like the most about it but also what were some of the things you guys had to do behind the scenes a lot of work that was a little tiresome? >> i don't know. i just was, like having fun. something weird? nothing. just sleep a few hours only. not talk with your family but everything was really real and we are just like young girls
having fun. >> what did your parents say after you won? what was the first thing your family said? >> they were so proud, because they were with me the whole time one month before preern preparing myself. not only learning how to do the makeup, but my father was like my teacher for of the last question, so he was really nervous. really nervous. >> you did a great job, but the moment was when paulina comes out and gavin mcgraw is singing his song you know and then the flames burst on the graphic behind her. >> i saw this. >> and she hits her mark and then takes his hand and then starts singing with him. >> awesome. >> that's -- >> that was the moment. how would you like the year to go? what do you hope to accomplish this year? >> well i think that the whole point of this experience it's become a new person. pts learn it's learn, it's, i don't know, become a better person a better
professional a better paulina. a better version of myself. i think that's the whole point. learn about different culture, help in different countries and learn just more about me. >> i'll take that. >> and how was thomas? dealing with thomas? was that okay? >> was i all right? >> is he okay. >> well he's here so i will say that he's okay. no. you were great. we really loved when we heard your name. were very happy. >> thomas wants to know. >> miss canada i was obsessed with her national costume and shegifted me this hockey stick, and i didn't know if paulina would need it but i wanted -- >> pass thatology to you s. that the crown? >> very modern and different. >> is it real? >> mika are you wear it? >> i'll try, but you know i'm kind of washed up. >> la la la la la. hold on. can you put this on s. that bad? i'm sorry paulina. i'm going to -- watch your head
on the lights. >> here we go. here we go. >> i don't want to -- >> the new miss universe is -- >> oh no. >> mika! >> right. okay. everyone, laugh together. okay. >> congratulations. >> what else needs to be said? >> nothing. it looks better on you. >> really? >> oh, my -- i think we need to exchange jobs. >> really? >> i think so. >> here you go. get over here. right now. sit down. calm on paulina. you're going to read the tease. perfect. >> so what's happening today, what does obama say? >> now you can read this tease. >> you know that i'm like a little bit blind. i have contacts. >> i need to say, more back with this guy. he's annoying. we'll be right back. >> more back with this guy, he's annoying, but we'll be right back. >> exactly. very good. >> sold! >> wonderful. thank you.
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is there a more obnoxious man in the usa than the governor of new jersey. chris, sit down and shut up. christie is a malicious bully. >> cher goes so go. >> so goes cher. all right. let's go to our top news. >> yeah. because that's not it. although i'm not sure why you did that but -- >> no. i just -- i actually did it -- i actually -- i -- i liked what happened as far as like ron fournier's response. did you see -- let's go to south carolina quickly, because last night the south carolina polls came out, because last night you had mitt romney. >> yeah. >> and he's down in mississippi. >> uh-huh. >> right? >> yep. >> and people are still saying the establishment is still knocking this guy. go well wait. what's he doing? >> eating barbecue with the people. shaking hands. make as speech in mississippi state. this guy's running. >> and it's not an event unless
you eat barbecue in mississippi. >> and he's attacking hillary clinton. he is in full campaign mode. >> there you go. >> and i've been saying for some time kids asking me what do you think of this mitt romney thing? i've been saying to the kids hey, kids everybody hates mitt romney, the republican establishment. nobody wants him to run in the peter, except for the people who vote in primaries and every time i say that a new poll comes out in an early critical state that hasn't been first place. it happened last night. >> showing him out front of jeb bush and scott walker. romney lost the primary there 2012 to newt gingrich. >> so that's in south carolina. >> go to iowa. >> this is in iowa. he's way ahead in iowa. and then you go to new hampshire, you got to go back to november, but even there, you know, you have -- mitt romney is up, and i just want to know willie geist, if this guy's in first place in every single important state, who expects him
to go -- i know jeb's people are launches a lot of stuff and, like trying to kneecap him and everything, who expects a guy in first place in iowa, in new hampshire, in south carolina, that he'll just quit? like in all the little guys down below, all of them that are like chattering ah he sucks. he sucks. he sucks. let us run this time. he's no good. he sucks. you know? the thing is -- >> you are -- >> guess what? >> what? >> he's in first place. >> oh my god. >> and robert gibbs, i'm sorry, somebody pulling 3% 4 hrs percent% should not be talking on mitt romney is not qualified to run because he's still in first place. >> he is, but if you look at some of the polls, how in south carolina is supposed to know who scott walker is now anyway? i think, look this is about, we're probably 1/10 of a mile into a marathon, and, sure he's in first place, but -- >> this is where you have to decide whether you're going to
run the rest of the marathon or not. >> no, no. absolutely. but the question isn't -- i mean, you don't get much of a medal for finishing fifth or fourth or third in this marathon. >> robert i don't think -- i'm not articulating myself very well which of course is par for the course. >> yeah. >> as everybody watching "morning joe" today, this will be no different than any other show for the past eight years. the point i am making is people telling mitt romney that he should not run for president would all run for president if they were in first place in iowa new hampshire, in south carolina in these early polls. my question is it state of mind of mitt romney makes this decision, which will shape the republican field moving forward. we're passed the time oh it's too early. no. this is going to shape the field. what happens in the next month. why would mitt romney not run? if he's in first place in all of these states? and he wants to run? >> look, i think it's pretty clear that mitt romney wants to run. >> uh-huh.
>> even if he didn't want to run a few months ago, whatever clicked in him in the last month and a half whether it was others that got in. whether it was just deciding that he wanted another shot because he hadn't been able to do this i don't think there's anything in these polls -- in these polls that is likely to stop him. the question -- look if i was a republican or a republican strategist i would have people ask, is there anything that mitt romney had to deal with in 2011 and 2012 that was a negative for him. >> right. >> that he's done a lot or anything quite frankly to mitigate? and i think -- i think republicans are going to in this election take a longer view on electability, and i think that is not going to be to a great benefit of mitt romney, but, look, i don't disagree these numbers are certainly not going to convince him not to run. >> it's the dynamic of who he's running again as well. casey hunt you've been following this closely.
seems to me that mitt romney's out there planning on running and just making sure there's no reasons not to run? >> hey, mika. yeah pap couple points on this. first, it seems one of the things he's really focused on is trying to present the authentic mitt romney. the speech he gave in mississippi sounded a lot like the one he gave last year at brigham young university in utah. we seem to be hearing from mitt romney the man. at a point when he wasn't yet a candidate. the question is whether or not he can successfully translate that across a campaign. it's more than just talking about it. i mean i remember trying to get access in 2012 to some of the more human sides of mitt romney. i actually went to church with them in new hampshire. they weren't thrilled to see me but one of the only glimpses we got into this part of his life and i think while a lot of reporters who covered him on the trail regularly recognized the guy in that mitt documentary on netflix, a lot of america didn't. >> exactly. >> and i think that the second point, too is you know on
this idea of poverty and whether he can redefine himself as somebody not just for the rich you have to remember this isn't just why we talk about the 47%. it's not just that comment. there were hundreds of millions of dollars spent making sure that the american people thought this of mitt romney and it's going to take more to reverse that. i don't know how many times we want to watch that "america the beautiful" cayman islands ad again. >> i don't think it's as simple as looking like you care and reaching out to people who need help and putting on some commercials and trying to show a softer side. sam stein, i would say that with mitt romney it's got to be something bigger. it's got to be how our economic security how lifting up the poor helps us on the world stage, and then he might be able to take some of his winning points of the last campaign and apply them to have winning points of the next one? >> yeah. a few points here. one is, he clearly thinks that he has a platform to make another run of it and i'm
guessing i haven't done any reporting on this that the romney camp looks at 2012 and says, took the democrats best shot not much more they were throw at us. there's not much more they can do in 2016. the question are those polls a ceiling or a floor. as for rebranding of authentic mitt, you know it's possible obviously, this could work but, you know i'm stuck on the fact that a lot of what people are talking about, mitt supporters, they're saying focus on poverty. change our focus here change our focus there. that's just a communication strategy. it could very well be when the american public voted in 2012 what they didn't like his policy portfolio, not how he talked about his policy portfolio. over the weeks, month, ahead, what the miss campaign probably has to do articulate what specific policies he now will champion as opposed to in 2012 that will alleviate poverty, help us on the world stage and so on and so forth. >> robert, let me ask you, with
the caveat these polls are early and the numbers will all change. we don't know if at all of those people are running, if you are running against this republican field. let's say it's candidate x, maybe hillary clinton as the democrat, which name on the list, a, scares you the most and, b, which has you licking your chops? anxious to go after mitt romney is that the easy one xwnchts if. >> if you're a democratic -- i know the playbook. take it off, dust it off a little bit. i tend to believe that republicans are going to more likely nominate somebody from outside of washington. i think a governor like scott walker, who's had a good couple of weeks. i think chris christie will get a pretty solid look at this. i think somebody like a jeb bush. i think if they do go with somebody in washington clearly marco rubio had a few good weeks
and rand paul is somebody that will have to be dealt with throughout this process. that's a small number. look, the truth and reality is republicans have a remarkably deep bench this time. i think that's another thing that might well work against mitt romney. last time quite frankly, he beat a very very weak field of basically herman cane newt gingrich and who was that other guy? um -- >> a weak field. >> can't remember the third. all right, have all of you seen "american sniper"? >> yes. >> twice. >> liked it right? >> i -- well as movie, yeah yeah. >> what else was there? >> what was it? >> wasn't such a good play. >> what was that? >> i meant to say as a story based on the character of a real person and a real book it does not necessarily reflect the book nor the character. >> wow. >> okay. >> i mean i'm just -- that's my opinion. >> which part of it doesn't accurately reflect?
>> makes me tired today. >> he's talking to michael morrison. what do you got? >> so the film depicting the life of the u.s. navy s.e.a.l. chris kyle which eamon has some detail issues with has already won over audiences here in the u.s. raking in more than $200 million since its release, but also reportedly thrilling audiences in baghdad. some viewers got so into the film in they began shouting out during the screening. the global post reported one moviegoer yelling, shoot him. he has an ied, don't wait for permission. he continued saying i love watching war mothers because especially now they give me the spring to face the imlaumic state. it ran one week at a popular upscale mall. management ended the filming because of the controversy surrounding the killing of muslims. >> doesn't sound like a terribly scientific study. one guy stood up and yelled, i don't think that reflects
maybe -- >> i actually read the nbc news story. it was actually the audience yelling shoot him, shoot him, when the little kid was walking towards him. of course i thought it was fascinating. we were sitting in the audience what do you do? what do you do in baghdad? the nshz nbc news studio stead they were shouting, shoot him, he has an iud. absolutely fascinating. >> that is interesting. >> there have been enough people blown up by innocent-looking, you know suspects. it was fascinating. >> yeah. >> eamon? >> go ahead. go ahead. >> you know if you don't know anything about chris kyle you don't know this was true story, this was a great movie. tremendously entertaining, a lot of value. >> what do you think the value is of -- >> it's a great story. a story if you in fact as the director was saying a story as post-traumatic stress disorder addresses how these vets come home. how they reeblter society, poses
challenges. from that perspective, a compelling, thought-provokes very emotional movie. >> but -- >> when you juxtapose it with the real chris kyle in the story and emerged what kind of personality he was in his own words, very -- >> talking about the story when back home in texas, which may not have been true? >> a lot of stories when back home in texas, a lot of his own personal opinions what he was doing in iraq. how he viewed iraqis. people described as his racist tendencies towards iraqis and muslims going on these killing sprees in iraq on assignment. there are issues -- >> wait, wait. killing sprees? chris kyle was going on killing sprees? >> when he was involved in his own assignments and in terms of what he was doing. >> right. >> a lot of the description that has come out from his book and some of the terminology he has used, people have described him as racist, in his personal attitudes about what he was doing overseas. when he was on assignment. >> i think a lot of guys when they're in warfare, might say
things they shouldn't say. i know we said certainly said quite a few things about the japanese and i'm shump the japanese said quite a few things about us. i mean, listen i didn't know the guy. i mean you know i only know what i know through, you know -- bradley cooper and reading a lot of what -- that interaction goes. >> do you want to know -- >> war's ugly. >> the only thing -- i thought a powerful mother and thest and theaters of what happened at iraq, what happened at home. important. showed him early on what happened on 9/11 and then he obviously went to iraq. it the link between what we did in iraq was in response to 9/11. i wish one in the movie one of his fellow soldiers and basically said hey, don't you know that iraq was not involved in 9/11? and then he could have said yeah but -- politics is for somebody else. what i care about is protecting myself protecting you, protecting the other guys in my unit. i wish once someone had raised
the connection about iraq and 9/11. >> this movie wasn't a commentary about the war or about the politics of the war. it was a character stud whey this guy went through. >> a good movie. >> and you don't have to like him and the comments calling iraqis savages. he was calling the people he was shooting savages. the people he thought had ieds, thought would kill his buddies savages. some people have seized on that term he thought all iraqis or everyone in the middle east is a savage. that's in the just what he said. he was talking about the people fighting in theater calling them savages. when we come back eamon is going to kick around santa claus. >> you know, i understand -- >> like i know. >> no listen. >> first of all, like you, i don't -- >> you can hate santa claus if you want to. >> i think this is a fascinating conversation. >> i do, too. he's trying to cheapen it. >> reading between the lines, it's what happened when young men are sent to war and are sent to kill and to fight the enemy, and how do you not develop hatreds and confusion about
people? i mean how can you completely label somebody when they're put in a position like that? and i think it takes a look at just how devastating that all can be on the brain. >> yep. >> so i think everybody's point is valid here and that's why the movie's good. >> i think so too. >> it sparked a national discussion into that. it certainly is -- >> yeah. >> very good. >> the thing is it actually -- this movie has done well and we've said it before, has done so well, because you finally have a character study of a guy who went off to war who doesn't get painted as a beast or as some dark savage himself, and -- and hollywood has real trouble making those type of movies. >> hmm. >> now they've made one now where they're not ashamed to show there were a lot of great men and women in iraq and afghanistan, that were brave that were proud, that sacrificed themselves noemt for theirt only for their buddies but for the iraqi
people. >> and men who go and come back completely changed. >> exactly. >> on the phone talking to with his wife. in the middle of a battle. that, to me was the most powerful scene of the movie. bringing those two words together. >> quickly, a lot of people think this was a rah-rah war film. critics have their points. i went to a screening at fort drum over in new york here and there was no screaming and cheering when he was killing people. it was interesting to watch. active duty and vets sitting in a room watching this movie. they didn't stand up and say, yeah, you shot that guy in the head from 2,100 yards away. they were watching it as a reflection what they'd been through and when they saw him at home and he's struggling so hard with his family to reingrate with society, there were moved. people crying, not cheering in that studio. and here to co-host our 8:30 half hour. molly sims. >> a mod the. >> model.
>> going to teach me how to be a supermodel. >> it's not working for me. i'll ask about that. and the change coming for the next president of the united states. first a check on the forecast with bill. tracking two new storms. one bringing freezing rain to much of ohio now. very slick conditions from the cleveland area to columbusish and that's trying to slide over to pittsburgh and erie. hopefully more snow there. freezing rain in ohio. the worst weather in the kurcht. this storm is going to re-energize stell later tonight making its way through the northeast and unfortunately the areas that were just hit by that big storm in new hampshire and also maine have a chance of another 6 to 12 inches from this storm. not as much as boston maybe 3 to 6 inches. kbloeing conditions. 40 mile-per-hour gusts on the heels of that 70 mile-per-hour blizzard. as far as the long range goes big questions about the next storm. low confidence forecast does go out to sea on one of our computer models the euro model, sunday to monday.
if you're in the d.c. area up to philadelphia, keep an eye on the forecast. you have a chance of getting snow for that monday morning commute. talking about the big blizzard. amazing photos coming out from the coast's areas. nantucket obviously encased in ice. the waves were so huge and the spray just freezing on anything it touched, nantucket still recovering right through the weekend, and how about this image. from massachusetts, the huge wave at high tide about the swallow that little home and an unbelievable historic blizzard of 2015. it. you're watching "morning joe." we leave you with a shot of washington, d.c. don't give up on the snow yet. i think you have a chance monday morning. we'll be right back. before earning enough cash back from bank of america to help pay for her kids' ice time. before earning 1% cash back everywhere, every time.
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i think that dan and ellis are trying to sabotage me. i don't know. i just noticed. >> why do they hate you so much? >> take a shot in the control rom. what's going on there. thanks guys. oh colleen. thank god she's there. the morning paper, "wall street journal," cuban president raul castro says the u.s. has to return to the naval bashan at guantanamo bay before ties between cuba and the u.s. can be normalized. castro maze remarks during a summit in costa rica adding the land is "illegally occupied." so far u.s. officials have not responded. the military base at guantanamo bay was established after it leased to the u.s. as part of a
treaty in -- >> decided to open up and now they're making demands. >> also asked, true story, full reberations for the embargo. pay us back. >> you know it is so good our negotiations with cuba are on. these things always work out very well for us. >> on to the next story now. >> panama xacanal, so awesome. noriega acted so well after we gave him the panama canal. >> just reach out the hand and they'll reach back. and new census data shows a staggers one in five or 16 million american children currently rely on food stamps. that number is up from the beginning of the recession in 2007 when about 9 million children were on snap as it's called now. last year a bill cut funding for an assistant program over $8.5 billion eliminating benefits for 850,000 people. >> let's go to the guardian. recovered flight data recorders show that the copilot was in control of air asia flight when
it crashed in december. indonesia's national transportation safety committee says the french first officer was flying the plane when it plunged into the java sea. the plane vanished in radar screens approximately 40 minutes into the flight. transportation officials say the aircraft was in good condition and all crew members were properly certified. >> the st. louis -- sorry. >> just so many -- so many plane crashes in asia. >> flight that area too. >> yeah. in that area. i guess this morning, early this morning, they finally -- finally officially declared that the malaysian flight was lost. it will be about 12 more months of coverage by certain networks but, yeah. i mean look at those two flights, air asia. it's not a safe place to fly right now. >> the black boxes on this one, at least hopefully figure out what happened. a fighting and shoving match broke out at st. louis city hall during a meeting to discuss
policing following the shooting death of michael brown. the city is considering a bill creating an oversite of the police department. the meeting, first on that matter. nearly an hour proceedings went fine but the scene eventually evolve into chaos when police officers began speaking in opposition of the bill. when a police union leader called for order, the pushing and shoving began. the police association believes the bill is unfair towards officers, while many citizens say the department needs a new form of accountability. >> right. so everything was going well until the police actually got their say? >> yeah. >> and the police get their say and then suddenly a riot breaks out inside the courthouse? i guess cops are supposed to just sit back and do absolutely nothing? and just -- just -- just take it. it's unbelievable. it is unbelievable the national narrative over the past six months has been disgraceful towards cops. >> i don't disagree. it's been an unfair conversation. a lot of good points to be made.
a lot of very real feelings out there, but, my god. look at what they have to do for a living and let's try and understand where they're coming from and meet in the middle. "usa today." mcdonald's named a new ceo. steve eechlterbrook as sales continue to drop. the decision comes after months of sharp drops in sales and mounting criticism over worker compensation. 36,000 locations in over 100 countries. >> it's a tough business. >> very. >> and the ceo who's leaving, i think has done a pretty remarkable job in converting the mcdonald that we grew up with in '60s, '70s, '80s, '90s to a new thing. my kids still, they -- they go to mcdonald's for coffee. and i ask why? it's cheeaper and the best coffee. >> the fact people are saying that about mcdonald's. also salads. they go there for salads too.
there has been a remarkable transformation over the past decade. >> major korngss making fast food. look at what pepsi's dealing with, mcdonald's, other fast food agencies have to make the transition from all of these other addictive substances that make people want to buy their food in a way that nobody knew was, you know, necessarily impacting society as badly as it was. now they're trying to make a transition to help. that's hard. >> a lot doing a really good job. pepsi's one of them. >> pepsi's doing great. >> three years profits flat. changed what it looks like. >> coca-cola. >> it's a tough marketplace tmplts is. huffington post the next president of the united states will take off in a brand new air force one. >> thanks god. all right. >> pentagon announced a contract for two new planes going to chicago based boeing. the current fleet went into service in 1990 replaced by goeg's new generation 737 jet i.
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look! it's bud pip i'm so glad you made it home bought i just sold you on this website i built with godaddy. ship him out! terrible. that's just terrible. joining us now television personality and actress beth stern, and we're going to talk to her about the kitten bowl in just a moment but we're talking about the super bowl and a lot of different levels. therapy the ads. you didn't like that last one. the first one, the budweiser ad using an old schtick they've been going with the lost puppy but they're going to have one this time around joe, on domestic violence and it is dead serious. i think it's actually a brilliant move chilling. it is based on the actual text of a real call to 911. take a look. 911, operator 911. where's the emergency? >> 127 grenier. >> what's going on there? >> i'd like to order a pizza for delivery. >> ma'am, you've reached eded 911. this is an emergency line.
>> large mushroom and pepperoni. >> this is 911. >> do you know hog itw long it will be? >> do you have an emergency or not? >> and you're unable to talk because -- >> right, right. >> is there someone in the room with you? just say yes or no. >> yes. >> okay. it looks like i have an officer about a mile from your location. any weapons in your house? >> no. >> can you stay on the phone with me. >> no. see you soon. thank you. >> we both have chills. >> mika, that is a chilling ad. we've shown it a couple times this morning and the response is overwhelming. do you think the nfl is really waking up to the problem they had earlier this year and how important is this? >> absolutely. this is the result of them getting a team in place, a team that involves women and really looking at this as the number one issue that they need to solve so they can move on and practice the game of football.
and this ad is chilling. i think the fact that they're putting it in the middle of the super bowl and, you know moving open the ad space, but also probably having a real kind of cut in the mood of the whole event. to really take a moment and look at a serious issue that they've had to confront. i think it's brilliant. i think it's brave. i'm glad they're doing it. we're going. yeah? >> you know the thing is everybody tunes in for the super bowl and the game and all of these great ads. this is a great message for absolutely everybody. i will tell you, though the second most important thing is the kitten bowl. >> yes it is! i. wait for the kitten bowl every year i think i know why, and there are kittens we'll gore to talk about on a number of levels with beth. the other big game this sunday. >> yes. >> and you -- okay first of all i can't wait to talk to you about all the work you do with saving animals. first explain to me what the kitten bowl is and why there are not kittens here now? >> this studio would not allow
kittens, so that's why i do in the have kittens with me. >> what? >> but the kitten bowl is on the hallmark channel, our second kitten bowl such a huge ratings hit last year. 92 kittens on the field playing, frolicking. look at this. >> so cute. i want one. >> yeah. starts at noon on hallmark channel and run all day. when all the guys are sitting there drinking beer, watching the football game i say the girls and the kids go in the other room. watch some cuteness. i karnt youguarantee you, guys tuning in too. my husband being one of them. >> oh, yeah. i don't think he's looking at the kittens, though. i think he's looking at you. >> i am hosting it and so many animal-loving celebrities that really came together and we're making it bigger and better than last year. >> talking about loving animals. you put your money where your mouth is and you've been raising money. you have connections with north shore where i got cajun, by the
way, when he was rescued from hurricane katrina and he is still our doug today. beloved and you saw emma our cat who we found in a field in pennsylvania. we're big into rescues in our family. you are, too. >> north shore north america is the largest no-kill rescue organization. over 20,000 adoptions a year. that's crazy numbers. we have our headquarters in port washington. i'm in the process of expanding it 15,000 square feet. i'm making a cage-free feline habitat. their home away from home. it's going to free up the existing shelter as it is now from where puppy mill and adult dog rescues. i volunteer for north shore animal league. my husband and i are foster. we foster kittens and cats. i think we're close to 100 cats and kittens. >> is he sweet with them? >> my partner in everything i to do with rescue. right there with me. he doesn't clean at many litter boxes as i do but he helps me socialize them feeds them. >> howard feeds them? >> yes. we have six resident cats.
one is blind. >> does he clean up? >> oh yes, he does. he cleans poopy bums on the kittens. he's right there with me. >> you're kidding? you have a whole room full of little kitties ready to go right now? >> right now we have five kittens. >> so it's my daughter's birthday tomorrow. i'm trying to convince everybody in my family to allow this. because we already -- could howard dliv tereliver it to my daughter. >> he doesn't deliver. that's my job. >> we could make that happen. a little kitten for hur birthday? >> wait wait. >> i could have howard name the kitten. >> can howard name it? >> howard will name the kitten. >> mika, two things. one, you do not want howard to deliver this to your daughter you sure as hell don't want him naming the cat. seriously? >> oh, no. i do. >> we have really cute names going on at home. >> like what? >> he named one poundcake. hazel, rose leopold. we've had tarzan. superman. >> any dirty names?
any howard stern-type names? >> no. howard at home is not dirty. >> that is -- awful. >> you deliver it. we're getting a kitten. happy birthday amelia. >> amelia. >> i'm going to name a kint amelia. the most beautiful name. meanwhile, there are so many cats kittens puppies and docks at your local shelters. a perfect time of year to adapt and so many are just -- e. so i have cajun and emma and we're going to add whatever howard names -- >> do you want a boy or girl? >> what do i want? what's -- >> there's emma. she's a girl. a female. >> a very bad cat. >> and very selfish. >> you think ye be okay with another one? >> i think if we get a really young one. what do you think? >> i think if i -- give you one that's really chill and ready for a companion. let's do this. >> i love it. it's a deal. >> if i could reach you -- ah! >> i love you. easiest adoption ever. >> hosted by beth stern. we'll put it on the air. it's going to become our mascot here on "morning joe." so, howard please give it a name that is not filthy.
i think can you do it. poundcake's good. >> okay. poundcake. >> exactly. all right. so it's super bowl sunday add 12:00 p.m. eastern on the hallmark channel. i'm watching. beth stern, so nice to meet you. thank you for everything you do. up next molly sims is here with her book. here to teach us all on how to be a supermodel every day? is that possible? i'm not sure. >> with her, it is. >> with her it is. we'll be right back. you just got a big bump in miles. so this is a great opportunity for an upgrade. sound good? great. because you're not you you're a whole airline... and it's not a ticket you're upgrading it's your entire operations, from domestic to international... which means you need help from a whole team of advisors. from workforce strategies to tech solutions
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insurmountable. what newspapers do you read? >> yeah. yeah. blamed me for that one. >> should you have prepped her on something like that? >> probably. >> yeah. >> so you would have said now they may ask you what newspapers you read. so have two or three in mind. what you would have done? >> i should have yeah. >> welcome back to "morning joe." i'm over here. am i over xwleer model and actress molly sims is with me. i still can't believe, eight months pregnant, out with a new book everyday supermodel. molly, in this book okay everyday supermodel, i'm going read this and realize i'm not a supermodel and never will be one and looking at pictures. yeah i don't look like that. doing these exercises, but then started reading, and you actually -- it's very raw. >> very raw. very real. i'm not out to turn anybody into a supermodel. out to actually debunk. debunk it and say you have to be the best you can be and we wake
up every morning especially in the new year being like how can i be better? and i wasn't born like this. i'm not resilient with a little booty of a size 0, but i made it, and i did it and here's how i did it and here's how i change might look my weight and changed -- not everything about me but i went for something, and i've gotten it. >> it was a lot of work. >> it's a lot of work. >> and took a lot out of along the way. >> i lived in europe six years. told i was too fat. my carve was too big. arms too big. i was too muscular. if you think that makes you feel good about yourself it doesn't. >> what are you left with on the inside? i have to tell you i wroet a book called "obsess" talk about the tv industry and the pressure i felt. >> i talk about that in the book. do not say you're on a diet ever. i do not own a scale. >> oh. >> do not. i became obsessive about it as a model. >> that's right. >> i did step on one two years ago when i had given birth and i
gained almost 80 pounds because i ended up having a thyroid problem that became very undiagnosed until after i had him, but i always say to women do not step on a scale. use your jeans. get a favorite pair of skinny jeans. feel good. >> you felt ugly as a child? >> nots that i felt ugly. i've been my height --. cute. you're adorable. >> there i am right there, but, you know, i wanted to do something that i didn't think i could do. i was in public school. i had acne. i was about 20 to 15 pounds over my resting weight and someone was like you're tall. should hob a model. you're pretty. wait a second. what? and i worked and i worked and i made it happen. that's why the last i can't say it on-air but the last chapter is i made that happen and we ended up writing it, because -- you know think was 20 years ago i wrote a postcard to my mom and dad. i think i can do this. i wasn't the prettiest or
smartest but i had that -- i'm a real girl's girl. a real woman. i love sharing information, like i was just like i know what your dress is. i just asked you, what's your dress, dvs. like i love sharing that information, and my girl friends of my best friends and we give each other back how the whole book started. >> i like that i made that [ muted ] happen. dumped and depressed to married and pregnant. >> even in my personal life. finally made it professionally and i'm like i am in such a co-dependent dysfunctional relationship, and then i got back into the dating field which is so hard in your mid-30s. now with the whole texting and everything, but i got dumped and then dumped again, and then i met my true love. >> i didn't think -- i did that thing, i was like supermodel ah god. i really like you. and i'm really liking your story. >> thank you. >> and i think that you know if there were more people like you who just said it. >> i just want to be honest. i don't trouble around with hair
and makeup i did do my own makeup and hair. i want to show women. >> what about your weight and, like, your age? do you share? >> everything. >> everything. >> i say i do both. i don't do botox now. clearly, i'm almost 8 1/2 months pregnant. i won't sit here and tell you i do m&ms, eat all day. i'm actually like this. i'm not. there's nothing natural about t. it's a job. >> it's a job. like the cindy crawford quote. you work for yourself. i work for myself every day. so do you. you look great. you take care of yourself. >> i do the same work you do. >> it is work. the book is "the everything day supermodel" molly sims. thank you so much. up next find out what we all learned today. >> thank you.
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all right. welcome back kids. time to talk about what we learned today. mika, we learned so much. >> that molly's friend has a crush on joe. >> yes, she did. >> you do. out there. >> you just called her out! >> i know. i had to. >> no. i just did. >> actually it was mika. >> she wasn't doing that to her friend but i had no problem. what did you learn today, molly? >> i learned that i freakin' loved you before but now i freakin' love you now. >> are you coming back? >> of course. i loved you a lot. i love this area. >> that's all yours. >> all yours.
>> i'm outta here. it's all safe. sage for you, emma and everybody else. >> you're pretty good too. >> that does it for us. if it's way to early what time is it joe? >> time for "morning joe," but stick around. "the rundown" is straight ahead. >> bye emma. >> oh, i'm going to put my arm around him. >> oh, look at that. i'm meteorologist bill karins and here we go again. another snowstorm, but this time this is a northern new england and especially a maine special. this storm develops late into the gulf of maine. looks like light snow tonight into tomorrow in boston but really going to be up in maine we'll get named going into friday and saturday. today the light snow is moving
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