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e-mail exchange on one's personal e-mail account that is relevant to their official responsibilities, it's just important for them to remember to forward that e-mail to their official government account so it can be properly preserved and maintained. >> is there anything happening either at the white house or at the state department to go back and look any security issues that came up with secretary clinton using a private e-mail or private e-mail server? >> nothing like that that i'm aware of. roberta? >> one of the justices this morning suggested that the court could give states time to prepare for the impact if it decided to rule against the government in the case. i'm just wondering if you have any response to that? >> hi everybody. i'm thomas roberts here at msnbc headquarters in new york. there we have white house press secretary josh earnest in the briefing room. he was talking about the hillary clinton e-mail controversy. also talking about the department of justice report on ferguson, which is our top story today on msnbc live because it was just moments ago the justice department announced that no
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charges will be filed against officer darren wilson in the shooting death of michael brown. but the government has found a pattern of civil rights abuses by ferguson missouri police. plus, we're watching inging developments in washington where affordable health care for millions is on the line as obamacare faces its most serious challenge yet by the supreme court. and at the same time alabama's state supreme court deals marriage equality a crippling blow. the long-awaited trial of boston marathon bombing suspect dzhokhar tsarnaev is finally under way. and dr. ben carson, the man who wants to be president, says gay prisoners are proof that homosexuality is a choice. seriously, that happened. but we start with breaking news. the justice department confirmed it won't charge darren wilson in the death of michael brown, but they've found a pattern of civil rights violations by that city's police department. it's not a major headline that
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darren wilson will not be charged. we knew most likely he wouldn't because of such a high bar for civil rights abuses correct? >> that's right. it was not expected but it comes just a day after a summary report was released by the department of justice showing that the ferguson police department enacted a pattern and practice of biased policing. i'd like to read to you a statement from the doj on this case. after a careful and deliberate review of all the evidence the department has determined that the evidence does not establish that darren wilson violated the applicable federal criminal civil rights statute. let's keep in mind the bar is extremely high. prosecutors would need to prove intent that officer darren wilson stopped michael brown because of his race. just moments ago, i spoke with the head of the st. louis naacp who was in a meeting this morning with michael brown's family including both of his parents, his stepparents, his grandfather, as well as their legal team. michael brown sr., michael brown jr.'s father had to leave the meeting early. they were clearly and visibly
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upset, not happy with what they've heard. the next question is what do we make of this report? the legal team and the family are pressing for some action in light of all that's come out. >> so i'm going to ask you to stand by as we play and remind everybody the white house's reaction. they were privy to this information before the department of justice announced it, but this is what they had to say. >> -- career professional investigators at the department of justice to review the facts, to conduct an investigation, to interview witnesses, and to do that with their own sophisticated knowledge of the law. >> so hearing about that their own sophisticated knowledge of the law, for the community of ferguson and now the fact that they have the confirmation they've always long assumed, that there was a pattern of abuse and that the most poor among them have been taken to the extremes of penalization of the simplest of things how can that community now repair itself
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as you've been certainly on the ground and seen it for yourself? >> i think in terms of repair on one hand this is the closing of one chapter, but i think in speaking to folks, one question remains. the doj's report said folks had their rights violated by undue stops for no reason at all. many would say that's why michael brown and darren wilson had their initial encounter that ended up being a fatal one. if you talk to activists, lawyers, protesters, and residents, they say they must continue the fight. while there's some light being shed on the errors of the police department and municipal courts many r needs to be done to ensure that black lives matter. so again, while this news will not be greeted wholly and joyfully by many people, the push continues in ferguson. >> trymanie lee, thank you for joining me. we're going to continue to talk about this throughout the hour. i want to bring in nbc news justice correspondent pete williams. the story we've got you covering there is that word attorney
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general eric holder will be speaking coming up at 3:00. what's the larger perspective on what this means from the justice department and how they consider other activities around the country based on ferguson? >> well let's be clear about the decision in ferguson. this isn't a question about why he was stopped. this is a question about the shooting of michael brown. and what the justice department says is they could not find evidence that michael brown met the standard of the federal civil rights law. that is that when he shot michael brown, he was intentionally using unreasonable force. that's the standard of proof in the federal law. they say they couldn't find it. they said they went to 300 homes to interview potential witnesses. they looked at the autopsy report. they looked at the ballistics. they interviewed witnesses. they listened to recordings. they listened to anybody who said they had any information at all. when they put it all together, they could not meet the high federal bar. as you may be referring to here thomas, attorney general holder has said he thinks that law
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needs to be changed. he thinks that's too high a bar to allow the justice department to be a backstop in cases where local officials either won't or can't prosecute. >> so pete we also know that you have some other work that you're doing for us at the supreme court today because the justices just heard a really large and formidable challenge to president obama's health care law. the big issue here, the threat is that the health care subsidy subsidies make the aca act actually affordable in 34 states where the care exchanges before established by the federal government. so explain to everybody if that challenge is successful, what happens to the millions of people that have now found health care to be affordable? >> the question for the supreme court is who gets that subsidy? is it anybody or only people who live in states that set up their own health exchanges, the 16 states? the challengers say it's only in those states. that's the wording of the law. the government says no you have to look at the law as a whole. and it wouldn't work if you interpreted it the way the
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challengers do. it's very hard to get a read here on what the supreme court's going to do thomas. to answer your question the government says that roughly 7 to 8 million people would lose their health insurance because they wouldn't be able to afford it anymore. the swing votes here are likely to be chief justice roberts and justice anthony kennedy. the chief justice said almost nothing. and justice kennedy made comments that could go either way. so unlike the last time we don't have any real feeling about how this is going to go. >> all right. pete williams standing by for us. we'll come back to you if we get any updates from there. as we turn ore attention now to the state of alabama, heading for a huge constitutional showdown with the federal government over marriage equality. today the state department or the state supreme court ordered a probate judge to cease issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples. this is the latest twist in a wild two months of confusion and defiance in alabama, and it now leaves hundreds of those couples' lives in legal limbo.
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in their decision on tuesday, which contradicted a federal court order, the justices wrote the following. as it has done for approximately two centuries, alabama law allows for marriage between only one man and one woman. alabama probate judges have a duty not to issue any marriage licenses contrary to this law. nothing in the u.s. constitution alters or overrides this duty. so we're also watching big developments for you today in boston. that's where jurors in the boston marathon bombing trial have been hearing from witnesses. the suspect, dzhokhar tsarnaev faces 30 charges. 17 of those charges carry the possibility of the death penalty. tsarnaev has pleaded not guilty to all of those charges. it was a really fiery morning in opening statements with tsarnaev's attorneys bluntly telling the jury that he did it. judy clark saying quote, it was him. nbc's rehema ellis joins us from outside the courthouse in boston. what's the defense strategy in
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this? >> the defense strategy is that she's going to say that tsarnaev, the younger brother, 19 years old at the time and his older brother, tamerlan 26 years old, that the younger brother who's in court right now was dominated by his older brother, that he was an impressionable teenager who was basically doing his brother's bidding. she's going to ask the court to look upon it that way. she's said it's going to be a lot to ask of you, but i'm going to ask you to keep your hearts and minds open that this young man, 19 years old, again a teenager at the time was being swayed by a brother whom he considered in many ways a father figure. >> bring us up to speed on what else happened in the opening statements so far. >> in those opening statements the prosecution i should tell you painted a very different picture of tsarnaev calling him essentially someone who is determined and an indiscriminate killer. if his opening statement, he
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said there will be proof that tsarnaev had this bomb in his backpack, that he placed it on the ground in front of a row of children, and it exploded. one of those killed was 8-year-old martin richard. one of three people killed at the finish line of the bombing. as you know an m.i.t. police officer was also killed in a scuffle with the older brother several days later. and it was a very difficult morning in the opening statements by the prosecutor basically saying it was a family day, a wonderful family event in boston, and that the tsarnaev brothers came there, but they did not come there to create joy but they came there to create a terrorist act. and as you point out, there are 30 federal charges against tsarnaev, 17 of them could carry the death penalty. >> nbc's rehema ellis for us. thanks so much. the composition of those jurors in this case is going to be key. our frances rivera joins us with who they are. >> you think about the fate of
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dzhokhar tsarnaev, really in the hands of this jury here. let me tell you about who they are. 18 jurors have been seated following nearly two months of jury selection. six of them have been designated as alternatives but all were required to report to court this morning. so let's look into that. the makeup of this jury here. ten of them are women. eight of them are men. they were among the 1300 potential jurors who were actually summoned here. let's talk more about it because they were required to respond to this pretty extensive questionnaire. by our count, from what we found out from this questionnaire, when they were asked if he was guilty or not as far as a response of unsure six of them said they were actually unsure. three of the jurors actually said that yes, tsarnaev is guilty. and then one juror actually wrote no when asked whether he believed that tsarnaev was guilty. we should note here that tsarnaev has pleaded not guilty to all of these charges. now, moving on to this portion of the questionnaire as well their responses to the death
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penalty question and how they felt about it. by our count here as far as that questionnaire, seven of the jurors expressed being open to the death penalty here. answers vary from open to valid to favor to could vote for it if appropriate. now, only one juror said that they were neutral about the death penalty. five jurors said that they were actually unsure about the death penalty. jurors said they were either unsure conflicted, or had reservations is when it comes to the death penalty. so definitely want to bring in mind here that dzhokhar tsarnaev faces 30 charges for his alleged role in the 2013 boston marathon bombing. again, he's pleaded not guilty to all of these charges. if found guilty the 21-year-old could be put to death. >> such an interesting insider look at how they were able to empanel what's supposed to be considered an impartial jury. frances, thanks so much. hillary clinton stays on message last night and not responding to reports that she may have improperly used
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personal e-mail while she was secretary of state. we're going to talk to david brock, a former prominent member of clinton's political action committee. plus the new numbers from colorado's first year of selling recreational pot. is the state bringing in the green? we're talking about the cash. and republicans sometimes say the darnedest things. ben carson talks homosexuality. lindsay graham talking plastic surgery. it's what they said that has them in hot, hot water. seriously, that happened. you know i tried one of those bargain paper towels but the roll just disappeared. bounty is 2x more absorbent so one roll lasts longer. bounty. the long lasting picker upper just stay calm and move as quietly as possible. no sudden movements. google search: bodega beach house.
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time now to check out today's best and worst weather around the world. take a look at these pictures on the left of your screen. an incredible force of nature leaves a city in northwest china encased in flying sand. this sand storm reduced visibility to less than 320 feet.
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look at that. the right side of your screen sand of a different sort beautiful seven-mile beach in grand cayman. highs in the low 80s. just rubbing it in for those of us here at home. feels like groundhog day with another storm expected to bring snow, sleet, freezing rain from the midwest to the northeast. if you think you are sick of the cold and snow take a look at these lobster fishermen who have been stuck on their boat in maine for the past three weeks. the frigid temperatures have caused their boats to be iced in the harbor. what an awful situation. let's go to msnbc meteorologist domenica davis and talk about the relief especially for our friends. we worked together in new england and boston. we can feel for them. >> certainly. i'm sure there's a lot of people looking for those lobsters too. they better get going. a lot of people today are being affected by the weather. frances, this is a 1500-mile stretch of bad weather we're looking at today, all associated with this front. here's a look at the winter weather warnings and advisories
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we have on tap for this afternoon that go right into this evening. it extends all the way from the northeast down through the southern plains. so this system is affecting everybody. you can see all that rain right now starting to get sleet developing in the louisville area. it's starting to push into cincinnati as well. now, this is all going to continue as we head through the evening commute. it's going to be a tough evening commute with falling temperatures. that means the rain that we have now through the ohio valley and the northeast will change over to sleet and freezing rain and then eventually snow. coming up in the next hour i'll show you where we'll have the highest snow totals. >> all right. maybe this will be our next hurrah. thank you very much. there seems to be a gathering storm when it comes around the fallout over hillary clinton's use of personal e-mail while secretary of state. now a new report from the ap says that the former secretary of state had her own computer server for that account at her home in new york. despite the controversy that surrounds her, clinton didn't acknowledge the subject in her
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address to emily's list at a gala last night. instead, she continued to tease a run for president. >> and i suppose it's only fair to say, don't you some day want to see a woman president of the united states of america? >> so joining me now, david brock from media matters for america, founder and chairman of the board. it's great to see you here. let's talk about this. we just had josh earnest talk about the fact that the administration has always said that it needs to have anyone's e-mails properly preserved and retained. but it's important that they recognize that secretary of state clinton has handed over her private e-mails to the state department. but is she above the fact that she should operate without oversight as secretary of state now that it's been revealed she has her own server and used personal accounts? >> i don't think she was operating without oversight. what we know here is the
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relevant statutes were complied with. the state department said yesterday that 55,000 pages of e-mails were turned over late last year in compliance with that law. the vast majority of those e-mails the state department had access to for years. there's really not a question of proper oversight here. everything was done properly. the problem we have is a manufactured controversy in the media, which started with yesterday's "new york times" and continues with some of the media reports today, unfortunately. >> so you don't think it's of any alarm that a cabinet-level official runs their own e-mail operation out of their private home, through their personal account with no oversight from the president? that's not a problem? >> i don't know why that would be a problem. i don't think it's material. i think the issue is wouldn't you want to know that the clintons had a lot of security on their e-mail and that the chinese and the russians weren't hacking into their e-mail? >> so we shouldn't trust our own government -- the american people should have no oversight over hillary clinton? >> no, i don't understand what
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you're saying about oversight. >> no access so her e-mail. >> that's not true that there was no access to the e-mail. the vast majority -- >> well the e-mails she wants to give up. if you have your own server in your house, you can control what you release to the state department as they're trying to retain 55,000 e-mails they may or may not have. >> in my view, what's important is the law was complied with. all of these e-mails, 55,000 pages, were turned over. another point at the state department briefing yesterday was the vast majority of those e-mails were in the state department for years. so i don't understand the question about oversight. i think that the law was complied with. >> you don't find it a problem at all that a cabinet-level member has their own server and runs their own e-mail operation through a personal account doing government business and not seeing most of the e-mails to people in her office or even to her own .gov account? >> the law specified what was
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required and the law was complied with. jeb bush has his own private server. lots of people in public life do that, and they want to have security on their e-mail. i think we should want that too. >> so should we trust our government that they have proper safety in place for our government officials to use their dot-gov accounts or not? >> the law from 2009 was judged to be not totally adequate, so the rules were tightened in 2013 and 2014. secretary clinton had left office by then. there's ample precedent that a cabinet member would use personal e-mail. it happened all the time during the bush administration. so there's no reason to think this wasn't handled entirely properly, except for the first quarter that this is related to the republicans and benghazi and leaking of stories and trying to harass hillary clinton and get access to all these e-mails and go on a big fishing expedition because they failed in what they've tried to do for years. there have been ten
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investigations into this thomas. and there's been no wrongdoing shown. that's what's behind this. that's what's not getting covered. >> you think this is smart politics from hillary clinton to have done this? >> smart politics? >> correct. >> i don't think this is a political issue. i think it's no issue. i think it's an issue that's ginned up only by the republicans for partisan purposes. unfortunately, we've seen this time and again with the benghazi committee where mainstream media outlets have been taken in they think there's something there. this story, thomas is totally unraveled in the last day. the main source at the "times," came out and said she didn't violate the law. >> but it's supposed to be the most transparent administration in modern times. does this put a blemish and bruise on that because of the fact the obama administration was allowing a cabinet member official to run their own e-mail operation with their own server? that means they can pick and choose what they make public record. >> i understand, but all the
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relevant e-mail, all the pertinent e-mail has been turned over. >> how do we know? i mean that's controlled by the clinton i.t. people. >> that's what the state department said. >> how do they know what they don't even know? >> look do you know how the federal records act actually works? it's up to the head of the agency to decide what's relevant. that's what the law is. >> okay. well, then hopefully they're all submitted now. david brock, great to have you here. thank you, sir. coming up we're going to talk about the fact the thing david brought up, jeb bush and new information we're learning about his personal e-mail server. back after this. (mom) when our little girl was born we got a subaru. it's where she said her first word. (little girl) no! saw her first day of school. (little girl) bye bye! made a best friend forever. the back seat of my subaru is where she grew up. what? (announcer) the 2015 subaru forester (girl) what?
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this closes the federal case in the death of michael brown, who was shot last august. it was on tuesday the doj released a long-awaited report that found a bias of police tactics against ferguson's black citizens. ar what does this doj report say? we already had the indication that darren wilson wasn't going to meet the high bar. >> that's right. a lot of reporting has spoken to that. there are two reports here. one looks at whether there was any kind of federal civil rights violation in that shooting and determines as a matter of a federal investigation that there was not. number two, there's a separate report looking over a two-year span at the conduct of the ferguson police department. so while the headline is they did not find a problem specifically in that single case that drew so much attention, including comments and reaction from the president and other politicians that many remember,
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here on the actual widespread conduct of the ferguson plidolice department, they found racial bias, improper policing, potential violations of federal law there. interestingly, you ask what's new. they found there was an overall effort by the police department to use policing and arrests and fines to raise revenue rather than secure public safety. they say that's an endemic problem there. >> so when we talk about an endemic problem in that community and as we look at other communities around the country that may suffer from that as well how can ferguson be the petrie dish for solving these issues? >> that's not an easy question. obviously you have good police officers that want to do well. you have community members that want to do well. then you have these problems this strife some of which is structural, some of which is personal. the report has a whole list of recommended solutions. now, that's not binding. that is the justice department saying what you should do is
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focus less on revenue and more on policing less on intense use of force and more on nonviolent and de-escalation methods. what we're going to hear later from the attorney general is whether there's a plan to make some of that binding. >> ari, great to see you. thanks, buddy. see you coming up in the next hour. be sure to catch ari on "the cycle," week days at 3:00 p.m. here on msnbc. basically 90 minutes from now. to overseas and a region being held together by a fragile cease-fire. ukraine fighting with russian forces is on hold but russian president vladimir putin is said to be eyeing another region to conquer, the baltic states. the u.s. and nato are taking no chances here. american and lithuanian militaries held joint exercises today near the capital. bill neely is in lithuania for us today. we understand you got exclusive access to the forces training on the ground there. what did you see? >> yes good afternoon, thomas. from a young, fragile, and very nervous country, lithuania has
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been watching the war in ukraine this year with growing alarm. the cease-fire hasn't changed that. leaders here and in the two other baltic nations wondering where vladimir putin will target next. lithuania is in nato as you say. we got exclusive access to their joint operations exercises with the united states. both sides sending a message to moscow. it's an image from the cold war. a russian war plane flying along a nato border testing the west. but this fully armed russian fighter jet was filmed just weeks ago above three nervous nato countries. nato planes are busy. they scramble and track the russians. their missions have tripled in a year from their base in lithuania, which fears it could be the next target of russian aggression. nato is taking no chances. u.s. troops from the second
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cavalry regiment are now based in lithuania. this a war game with local soldiers simulating conflict with a hostile neighbor. this show of force is aimed squarely at russia. nato is drawing a red line here with a message to moscow. if you try to cause trouble here or try to invade this is what you'll get. the question is is russia listening? you're ready for any threat? >> yeah, we're trying to train and to be ready for any threat. >> many in nato believe russia's real aim is not just to test the alliance but to split and destroy it. >> this shows the u.s. is willing to stand with all of its nato alliance partners. it shows that we're strong europe is strong and there's a collective defense ready to defend against any foreign aggression. >> and lithuania doesn't trust vladimir putin. >> we cannot trust anything they
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say, not a single word. >> lithuania once ruled by moscow doesn't want to be again. >> what's happening now, it's not just about us. it's about security of our continent. >> lithuania has just reintroduced the military draft. even school children in the baltic nations are being prepared for the possibility of invasion. nato bar planes scramble almost daily. its leaders warn of a real and present danger from russia, a danger greater now than at any time since the end of the cold war. and thomas more russian war planes were probing this week. nato trying to deter tension mounting, especially where those war games continued today. back to you. >> bill great reporting. thank you, sir. coming up the marijuana business, how it's booming. we're going to tell you just how much cash colorado is raking in from its weed windfall. and you don't want to miss dr. ben carson's insights into human
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received disappointing news from the department of justice that the killer of our son wouldn't be held accountable for his actions. while we're saddened by this decision, we are encouraged that the doj will hold the ferguson police department accountable for the pattern of racial bias and profiling they found in their handling of interactions with people of color. it is our hope that through this action true change will come not only in ferguson but around the country. if that change happens, our son's death will not have been in vain. attorney general eric holder is expected to speak at 3:00 p.m. eastern. we'll bring that to you live when it's happening. we have been talking a lot about what it means that hillary clinton had her own private e-mail server when secretary of state. turns out former florida governor jeb bush is also the proud owner of the e-mail server that controls his account. how big of a deal is this? kasie hunt joins me from washington, d.c. why are people so concerned about hillary's server and not drawing a big deal or a
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correlation to governor bush's? >> well, thomas there are some important similarities. first, just to break down the differences really quickly. hillary clinton was obviously a cabinet-level official, as she was using this. there are some security questions. was she communicating with foreign governments? jeb bush while he was the governor of florida, wasn't in a similar situation as that. there's also the reality that bush was operating under florida's sunshine laws. he knew that going in. he knew that the e-mails that he was sending on this account and that were going to be stored on this server would ultimately become public, and he's made them public. hillary clinton has not made those e-mails public. there's one thing i want to point out that makes these things the same, that's a broad broader concern. home brew e-mail servers really allow you to get around legal requirements for subpoenas, potentially avoid investigations, and they say, quote, operating her own server would have afforded clinton
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additional legal opportunities to block government or private subpoenas in criminal administrative, or civil cases. so if this becomes a trend among politicians politicians, that should be concerning to an american public that's concerned about transparency and government. >> kasie, great to see you. thank you. we have some new numbers from colorado's first year of selling recreational pot. now, get this. it was such a success that other states could make a potent argument to follow in colorado's footsteps. our frances rivera has more on the story. growing dope. >> growing dope and no blowing smoke when it comes to bringing you these numbers. we're talking about just extraordinary numbers. here are the top five things you need to know about colorado's weed sales. this is the first number we're bringing you here. 833, that's the number of stores that had licenses to sell weed in 2014. wait until you see how much they sold. this amount right here. 20 tons of weed if you can believe that. now, if you can't quite get a grasp of what 20 tons is here's an idea of how much weed that
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is. the equivalent of three elephants. 20 tons is that equivalent. that's how much we're talking about. and then when it comes to the dollar signs. $2,850,733, that's the number of retail edible products of weed sold in colorado in 2014. for those of you who don't know edible foods are products infused with marijuana. some of you may be familiar. that brings us to this number. $700 million, the amount of money in sales colorado made just last year. that's according to "the washington post" analysis. that combines retail pot, medicinal pot, and all the taxes, licenses and fees generates as a result. then one big fat, humongous number here. can't fit all the zeros, so we're showing you 1 billion. the retail market for pot in colorado will be worth $1 billion by 2016. we're talking about green in more ways than one.
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this kind of green and that kind of green too. >> imagine how many other states that are looking at evaluating how colorado is doing and what it could mean to their own bottom line if they're going to go this route. great report, frances. thanks so much. the first anniversary of the disappearance of malaysia airlines flight 370 approaches this weekend. just what happened to the passengers and crew members remains a mystery. the plane vanished just two hours after its takeoff. no trace of the flight debris wreckage, personal items, none of it found. search teams continue to scour the depths of the indian ocean, but clearly one year later the families are still asking what happened to our loved ones. joining me now is sean flynn, a writer with "gq," who's just written an in-depth article about the mystery. you've researched this for two solid months before writing the article. from all you've learned, what do you think?
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what's your theory about what happened to the plane? >> first, thanks for having me. i've studiously stayed away from settling on just one. i think you can break them down into three broad categories. it was either a catastrophic failure of some kind that cut out all the communications systems but didn't bring the plane down immediately, or it was some sort of terrorist or criminal act. either a failed hijacking or spirited away some place. or i think least probable is it was a pilot suicide. >> so if it was a failed hijacking, is that the expansion of your theory that it landed somewhere? >> not necessarily. it could have been one -- the best working theory right now is that it did not land at all. it's almost certainly at the bottom of the southern indian ocean. we're working with astonishingly limited information, a short military radar clip and seven brief communications with geosynchronous satellite. everyone who's looked at that data and put it through the mathematical gymnastics has come to roughly the same conclusion
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that it landed in what's still a large hunk of the southern indian ocean. >> where does it stand now with the integrity of the investigation and how active it is? >> it's still very act i have. they're out there searching every day. that's in terms of looking for the aircraft. they're scouring this enormous area, but they have three towed submersibles and one autonomous. as far as a criminal investigation, that's been completely unclear. the people who were willing to talk about it focused mostly on finding it. >> sean flynn, you can read his article in "gq." sean, great to have you with me. i appreciate your insights. >> thomas, thank you. at the top of the hour, we're going live on today's big breaking news. the justice department announcing no charges for ferguson police officer darren wilson, but it's finding a pattern of civil rights abuses by the police department in the city of ferguson. but first, potential presidential candidate ben carson says prison proves being gay is a choice. seriously, that happened. [announcer] if your dog can dream it purina pro plan can help him achieve it. ♪ driving rock/metal♪
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marriage. >> he was my commencement speaker when i graduated from college. >> and over the weekend ben carson didn't come close to rand paul and scott walker but he nearly tied with ted cruz. >> and after this reaction line was less than kind. ben carson continuing to prove that knowing how to operate on a brain is not the same as knowing how to use one. >> and andrew halter saying i saw the candidate this morning and it was like an snl chech. and another person tweeting ben carson saying that male on male sexual assault makes men gay. he is disgusting. so outrage online. and this is hardly the first time he said stuff about this. trying to appeal to the most conservative wing of his party. >> no. he has said things like this before and we can probably imagine that ben carson will say
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that again. he is not the only republican off the wall things. lindsey graham of south carolina apologizing for remarks that he made about nancy pelosi. he criticized her appearance and reaction to prime minister netanyahu's reaction to congress. >> according to bloomberg, he said did you see nancy pelosi on the floor. complete disgust. if you can get through all of the surgeries, there is disgust. well here is graham later eating those words. >> i just think that her reaction in the chamber was a bit disturbing and i made a very poor attempt at humor to talk about her reaction and for that i apologize. >> pelosi appeared visibley upset and she issued a statement on the address and she was near tears and saddened by the insult of the intelligence of the united states and when it comes to what they said about it political but to go appearance
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michael brown. they will not pursue justice right z rights investigations into wilson. but they did find an investigation. brown's parents saddened by the findings for their son but they are saying it is our hope that through this action true change will come not only in this action but throughout the country. and ron allen joins me. what is the reaction from different community members. >> well let's take them separately. but the report that the justice department will not prosecute wilson, nobody is surprised by that. that was expected. this has been hinted about all along and frankly the people here in the community, hopeful that the federal outcome would be different, just didn't
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believe that that would happen. there was very little faith in that process as well. now in the other report that basic lip outlines this long-standing -- long-standing pattern of racial bias people here are also not surprised by that because it documents in black and white what people have experienced in their day-to-day lives for a long time. what is stark is the high numbers. the 85% of the police stops, the 80% of the police deadly force incidents involving african-americans. those numbers bring into very sharp belief what people have seen and experienced every day here and they are not surprised by that either. and the question is where did that go. the justice department for example outlined dozens 26 to be precise, reforms, changes they want to see in the ferguson police department and the court system as well. we're waiting to hear from ferguson's leaders later this
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afternoon to hear whether they agree with this or whether they will challenge it or whether we'll move forward in a -- in a cooperative way or not. i suspect they will say they will cooperate. there seems to be a lot of will here to try and change things given what happened here the violence and the mayhem that happened here just a few months ago. >> and on the ground as we had followed for a long time the series of protesters peaceful protesters that stayed in ferguson. has there been any reaction from those camps about what the d.o.j. has come up with? >> yes. that's are the people i'm talking to who are protest organizationers and other -- organizers and others and there is a large group from ferguson who are headed down to selma, alabama, for the anniversary of the march down there to take part in that. several hundred -- several bus-loads as i understand it. but again, i think people feel like -- they feel vindicated by
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the justice department report because it says what they are been complaining about with the police department and not surprised that the justice department will not pursuit wilson by the brown death. and i think they still feel that justice has not been served for that family. >> ron allen on the phone from ferguson. and joining me on the phone was wesley rowly. joining me you were on the ground in ferguson and is this just meeting the expectations for those who had assumed. >> for those in ferguson very little surprise for what is being seen. the scope and the extent of the anecdotes in the report and especially in the ferguson police practices and pattern report is a little bit shocking. but again, i remember the first day when i got there which is two days after michael brown was shot and killed and every person on the street was giving me story after story, unbelievable
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anecdotes and now six or seven months later d.o. j is saying they were right and they told you sow. >> and now how will this change now that the doj has given this report and they were operating previously autonomously in their own world there in ferguson how will that change with the proper oversight. >> there is a question of what happens moving forward. we know d.o.j. officials met with city of ferguson officials yesterday and they said it was a tough meeting and it is unclear what will happen. will the city of ferguson cooperate with the recommendations and will they have to sue the city and there are structural questions moving forward. you have to question whether or not the police chief and the mayor can stay in their positions. if the county were to come in and deal and takeover policing, there is big questions between county police who were involved in similar anecdotes and the ones who deployed teargas and rubber bullets during the protest. and there is questions about
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what will happen here. >> wesley lowry from the washington post, thank you for making time for me. and day one of the trial in the boston marathon bombings. under way in the trial of dzokhar tsarnaev. it has been nearly two years since the day twin bombs detonated at the finish line killing three and injuring more. victims in the attack arrived today by bus and joining me from the boston globe newsroom mike bellows. so mike what did you take away from what happened in court with the opening statements? >> i think the battle lines were drawn today. the prosecution described graphic happenings of what occurred at the finish line. they said dzokhar tsarnaev had murder in his heart. the prosecutor said they planted the second bomb in a crowd of children and how three of the victims died. and prosecutors said dzokhar had
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looked at terrorist writings and radicalized himself over the course of the years and he was a willing participant and then said 20 minutes after the bombing he was seen on video buying milk at a supermarket in cambridge. and the defense drew the lines, calling it misguided acts of two brothers. they said he was involved in the bombing but dzokhar was a pawn of his older brother and incredible testimony of the manager of the marathon sports describing the horrific scene at the finish line. >> thank you for making time for me, mike. the president's health care law going before the supreme court, and this morning hearing a challenge that could cut it off at the knees. the subsidies that fund the care and where it comes from. the state and federal government at stake here. the health care of millions of people. it could just vanish. joining me here is my colleague
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ari mel bur. how do you think this will go? >> this is a big debate over the word of the law. you have justices pushing back on the word of the law and you can isolate the passage. and if you remember the movie a princess bride there is a line that says i don't think that means what you think it means and you can boil it down to that. justice kennedy, often seen as a swing vote is saying if we do it your way and rip apart obama care, this will put too much pressure on states. primarily red states. so you saw skepticism there in the courtroom. >> i think of robin wright and house of cards and my mind is moving forward. and now it is a house of cards for millions of preefs yuly under -- previously under-served americans and they are at risk. >> they are if the court goes in
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the other direction. and mill -- and primarily 8 million americans relying on the federal exchanges. for people not following this case and want a basic idea. remember when everybody was concerned about the website. that was the federal website when people didn't have a job, going on the website in states that didn't have an ex change. and they are saying wait should we take that back because of the law and the solicitor general said look they wouldn't have set up two doors here if only one was available -- >> accessible. >> so while there may be language errors or confusing, many laws have that you have to look at the whole text and see the whole thing to understand the purpose. >> ari. thank you. you can catch ari on "the cycle" here on msnbc. marriage equality is on hold
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in alabama leaving people there in limbo. they have ordered probate judged to stop issuing licenses despite a supreme court order allowing them to proceed. the next step could be back to a federal court and we'll keep you updated on that. new questions about hillary clinton's use of private e-mail during secretary of state. the a.p. reporting she ran an e-mail server out of her home. a personal service registered under another name. an then "the new york times" doubling down on its report now accusing clinton of thwarting record arrests. clinton didn't comment on an emily's list gala. and joining me is reporter alex seitz-wald. so how damaging is this for hillary clinton or is this just something that she can move beyond. >> no i think it is certainly the most potentially damaging story line to come out since she
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stepped down from secretary of state. even if she didn't do anything illegal and i didn't see any evidence to suggest she did, it is not a particularly compelling campaign message. it speaks to a larger narrative existed back to whitewater and the first white house when she resisted to provide documents and fitting into the idea she is calculating and mackeya valley an and there is a house committee investigating this and promising to get their hands on this and keeping this story alive and it will cause her problems up to the presidential rain. >> and we were talking with casey hunt that others had this but the political elite protects itself illegally in case anybody wants to get into their e-mails with a freedom of request informational. >> absolutely. there is a big difference
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between the state government and the state department. jeb bush wasn't dealing with national security sensitive information but voters are so cynical about washington and the way politics works these days. the story might wash over them the same way. i'm not sure how many people when they cast their ballot will think about this but the positioning going on right now, i think it is looming large in a lot of people's minds. >> alex seitz wald great to see you. thanks. two people are dead after a plane crashed over chesapeake day. after a land and sea search by the coast guard, the plane's wreckage was found in a botanical garden near the norfolk airport. intense fog is believe to have been part of the crash. a vigil tonight honoring the men known as the l.a. streets of africa. he was shot and killed by los angeles streets officers a day
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after protested erupted in downtown l.a. following the police shooting. when we come back netanyahu versus obama one day later, now that the israeli prime minister is back in his own country, reflection on the speech creating the vibe between the two governments. and later, how about this apology? quote, i didn't realize how horrible i'd been until i had a child of my own. a new mother and how she used to treat parents and moms before she had children. it is a discussion burning up on the internet right now. and then later, frances, digging deeper into the home servers, and all of that and more coming up. nobody told us to expect it... intercourse that's painful due to menopausal changes it's not likely to go away on its own. so let's do something about it. premarin vaginal cream can help
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>> there we have the democratic senator chris murphy criticizing recommendations by netanyahu to end nuclear talks with iran. on tuesday netanyahu addressed the congress the third time he's spoken to the house chamber chamber. this time to deep six talks with iran even as talks continue in switzerland. chris jansing joins us now with the 24 hours later. chris? >> reporter: incredibly high stakes and if you saw yesterday you saw how much emotion came out and continuing today on members of congress. reinforcing people on both sides, the people who support what netanyahu had to say, seemed determined to keep this kind of deal from going through. on the other side it seemed to make them feel as though it was pure politics discounted. and they felt he went too far. and the president with an
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11-minute response and looking almost irritated taking his speech point by point and said look we aren't there yet. even john kerry has suggested that the chances of a deal are only 50/50 but promises if there is a deal he will go to congress and personally try to convince every member to see it his way. but there is no doubt about what i think one senior ranking democrat said to me that if and when this does go to capitol hill, it will be quite a challenge, thomas. >> and john kerry met in switzerland with his iranian counterpart this morning. at issue is a seemingly unattainable deal with iran on the nuclear capabilities. >> and we don't know the full details of what would be in a deal. but we do have a sense of what each side is bringing to the table here when it comes to the talks. >> ayman mohyeldin brings us a sneak peek of the talks. >> we've been hearing the expression for months.
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the israeli prime minister came here to talk about the talks and made it seem like this was purely up to the united states but they are leading the talks but the talks involve five different countries, the five permanent members of the united nations security council and iran represents itself in these talks. now the united states and the p-5 plus one want to restrict the capacity of the iran regime to restrict nuclear technology. and they've reached a rough agreement as to how much iran can actually enrich in terms of the percentage and the number of fuel rods, in the low thousands, somewhere close to 6500. but also we heard this again from the sect secretary of state -- secretary of state john kerry, it must have an intrusive inspection system that means the international community will inspect and monitor all of the activity taking place at all of the facilities and that is one
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of the important challenges to verify. so what does iran want? and the iran government wants to have sanctions lifted off and more importantly they want any deal to allow them to sell their oil and gas on the international markets. that has been a major source of economic distress for the iranian government and at the same time they want a complete easing of the sanctions, particularly on iran financial institutions. because the sanctions have been crippling, they have crippled the iran economic. the sticking point now thomas is how long the sanctions will last in place and also who goes first. is it going to be the international community that lifts the sanctions first or is it iran that allows them to inspect and to comply with them. >> and then the biggest worry on the back end is the fact that both israel and the u.s. agree that iran can't be trusted and most likely they will try to have a covert operation. >> the u.s. position is distrust
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iran but allow us to verify what they are doing. the u.s. said we don't have a reason to trust iran but they have been keeping their end of the bargain according to president obama but their position is we distrust iran but we need a verifying mechanism in place to make sure they don't reach out. >> and netanyahu saying this is a deeply flawed plan. thank you for that perspective. and coming up next winter is less than three weeks from ending? is that true? do you agree with that? i don't know if i agree with that. there is a hume storm coming and frances we'll break down those stories trending online which is one including the fight to keep health care. something that everyone can afford. >> big sigh was for the weather. >> that was about the weather and the storm. americans... 57% of us try to exercise regularly. 83% try to eat healthy. yet up to 90% of us fall short
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same breath and that refers to the other decision from the d.o.j. the justice department finding civil rights violations by the ferguson police department. so frances what else are we following online? >> obama care center stage with protests at the supreme court as well. take a look at this. [ chanting ] >> well that was the scene as demonstrators contested the partial appeal of parts of the affordable care act. and now you are taking the fight to twitter on hash tag. you see behind me this is trending out there. 4,000 tweets an hour with hash tags like king earl don't take my care. and protest organizers say that 50% of the income used to go to health care insurance costs before obama but other folks are tweeting that obama care changed plans that they were happy with. and britter, the -- bitter the twitter reaction by ben carson
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saying that being gay is a choice. >> a lot of people go into prison straight and when they come out they are gay. >> so that sparked a huge outrage and reactions like this one. quick question for ben carson what other places besides prison can make you gay? diz -- disneyland? 7-eleven dental school. and then by your logic sir, being straight is a choice too. and many women are choosing to send positive tweets to the dear me hash tag. so that is twending out there. see the messages in the screen behind me. and this is created by you tube to empower women. 70,000 tweets like this one have been sent. and this one says dear me you were not made to fit in anyone's mold. you were born to stand out. >> nice. >> and another one here dear me, find a purpose, passion or dream and don't give up on it. go to college and even if you
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hate every second. and stop eating sweets. i don't know what you would say to yourself. >> i told you ben carson spoke at my 1994 commencement so i would say dear me don't listen to him in 2015. that is what i would say. frances, thanks. when we come back we'll dive back into the hillary clinton e-mail controversy and whether having her own server makes a different. and kurt schilling is speaking out and what he had to say after a quick break. and do you have any questions for frances and myself because we are holding a twitter chat to answer them tomorrow for you at 3:00 p.m. eastern. tweet us with your questions at #r and r and that stands for roberts and rivera. we'll be right back. tter than tums smoothies assorted fruit. mmm... amazing. yeah, i get that a lot.
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washington, d.c. right now as we approach 2:30. and we're learning that the president will be signing the department of homeland security funding bill passed in congress yesterday. this is something that had been widely speculated upon to keep the lights on past the one-week extension that we saw earlier this week. again, the president expected to sign the funding bill. there is a lot going on now. with this quick update. arguments being held in the case of king versus burwell. this is the case that could upend the aca. the court appears to be split on the issue. and then in less than an hour eric holder will hold a news conference after releasing the justice department report on the ferguson police department. msnbc will have live coverage of that conference. and federal authorities say there is no connection to terrorism in the arrest of a man in baltimore over a spring of public shootings in the area. two people were injured over the span of the shootings ore a period of -- over a period of
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two weeks. and mcdonald's will stop using chicken fed anti-biebiotics after it helps germs prevent resistance to drugs. one day after the times reveals that hillary clinton personally used her personal e-mail account during secretary of state, now it is revealed she went up a step further she set up personal serveeshes in her home -- servers in her home to personally conduct business. and it looks like the controversy might have ignited the baeng -- benghazi controversy. and now with me steve corn aqui. and so now there are papers out there questioning the legality and now there are reports that her private e-mails will be
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subpoenaed. so is there something legally wrong here or did she follow the law? this just completely uncommon? >> there is no indication that there is a legal issue but this is all about politics. and there is a big -- i think it is a significant political problem because of the appearance of all of this. it is something easy for people to understand. when you look at a story like this, this speaks to the kind of secrecy and aparanoid attitude about information going public that turns people off and people don't like about politics and it looks like hillary clinton was trying to shield information from the public that i think most people would look at and say that is public information and not something that an office-holder or an appointee of an administration should have the power to decide this is not going public. >> so this goes to the narrative also about whether or not she's going to announce to run for president and then delay, because the earlier she announces announces, the more she becomes a target and the later she waits, mayor stories like this
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have played out. >> in theory i think it is a reminder whenever she announces in the minds of her opponents and the press that is covering her in and her own party, she has already announced. she's being treated as a candidate. every unelse is -- everyone else is not out there running and the donors are lining up for her and the press will start digging in in ways that she would if she was a full-fledged candidate and she is running but it is a amount of when. >> catch steve with up with steve kornacki here on up with steve. >> and have you a game show. >> we're on a break for a couple of weeks. >> and i want to come back. >> and krystal ball takes us to where people were talking about
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hillary clinton about a tease. don't miss "the cycle" at 3:00 p.m. and then after serving a one-year ban from baseball alex rodriguez back on the diamond today. and kicking off with a-rod on the field. steve is a huge baseball fan. and kurt schilling and his takedown of online bullies who targeted his daughter and that caught fire yesterday and a few hours ago he spoke about the effect of the tirade to us here. >> there were nine -- i call them boys -- i that found and nine boys that i either contacted or contacted somebody associated with them. five of them were college athletes. and elite athletes. i heard someone say it perfectly. some of these guys have ruined $140,000 scholarships in 140
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an employee proposing from the shark tank. and that is putting guys out there to shame when putting together your proposals. and today we are celebrating seven full days of genius. and john ridley the academy award winning screen writer 12 years a slave and his new show premiers tomorrow. telling the story of a murder from several different perspectives and i asked him what attracted him to a project like that? >> honestly it was much of that. that concept that crime unfortunately does happen to folks and for a lot of us it is a headline. we read it and form our opinions about it and we get to move on. but for the families of the victims and the families of the accused, there is no moving on from it, not from a daily or a weekly basis and sometimes it takes months or if not years for a case to go to trial and even at that they still have no resolution. there may be a decision in the case but for either side there
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is no resolution. >> we kick around the word closure a lot. and for a lot of families that go through horrific crime situations or things happen to them closure is hard to find. >> closure is very hard to find. that is often for the audience. and even in the audience in real-life court cases that we wait for that decision to come and it goes on live news and it happens and there is a lot of talk about what it means but after the lights and the cameras go and after the suppose borters or the -- supporters or the protesters dissipate, the people remain involved. and thur lives oftentimes they spin out of control or they find new purpose and they try to work towards something. the story continues. and we wanted to create a show where the characters were so real, they felt so real the audience would believe their stories will continue evenar the first reason -- even after the first reason wraps up. >> so what is the payoff for the viewer and is there that type of closure for the viewer?
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why are you laughing at me. >> and how do i get a scoop on american crime. >> talk about genus to -- genius to genius. it is not working. >> i can't give specifics about it but there is a distinct emotional disclosure. there is not meant to be a cliff hanger or a reorienting of the story in and of itself but the sense for those characters, something did happen and something very emotionally comes to an end. but as you were saying for the people involved there is no specific sense of closure. >> when we think about big screen to small screen which is more attractive to you or both different mediums that you are attracted to? >> that is a very big question. some have elements that are attractive and some are difficult to work around. as much as i like working in cinema and now the movie theater space, you have basically two hours to tell your story. so even a film like 12 years a slave that felt like it had its own deliberate pace you have to
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move quickly and move through 12 years of a person life quickly. with american crime, we have 11 episodes and 11 hours to tell this story, to really get into the characters and to have multiple characters and to deal with them as people and see their families and the repercussions. >> who do you think would be modern-day geniuses? >> if i knew them i would take all of the money out of my bank and give it to them and watch them move on. genius is a different thing. i appreciate artistic genius people who don't think like everyone else in a creative space. and i see the same thing in business. how many times do we hear about the people who dropped out of college or started something in their dorm room and turns that into a business because they didn't go through things the same way. so me genius and i'm no genius in saying what i think it is. but it is people who not only think differently, but then on a daily basis or a weekly basis, don't give into a system that says you have to do it this way. and it could be genius in terms of finding ways to engage around
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the world. and all of us want to do good and want to do charitable work but those people who can bridge the divide between writing checks and having good intentions and going out and making those things happen. >> so being a disruptor can be a genius. >> there is a line in winning bruce fillk, society needs their deefy apts and we push things forward. and individuals like capernus who are deviants or others who are odd and weird, and in not looking at the world other people do find ways to push their aspects of society forward. >> john ridley we say you are one of our geniuses ses. i know you are a humble genius. it is great to have you here. thank you for your time. >> i appreciate it. so when we come back we'll judge into the justice department not charging darren wilson in the death of michael brown.
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new breaking news out of the nuclear negotiations with iran. ann curry has secured an exclusive interview with the leading man, the foreign minister mohammed zarif. and one day after a speech by benjamin netanyahu. he condemned any deal as untenable, saying the current regime is unbelievable. >> well mr. netanyahu has been claiming predicting that iran will have a nuclear weapon within two, three, four years since 1992. he has been on the record time and again, that iran will believe a nuclear weapon within two years. in 1992 he said iran will have a nuclear weapon within one year.
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he wants to stick with his one year for a decade. he do not believe that nuclear weapons bring security to anybody. this is isn't about nuclear technology, this is about scientific advancement and pride of the iranian people. it has nothing to do with nuclear weapons. and once we reach that understanding and once this hysteria is out and this fear mongering is out and then we can have a deal and it will not hurt anybody. this deal will help ensure that iran's nuclear program will always remain peaceful. we have no doubt in iran that our nuclear program is paegsful and will re -- peaceful and remains peaceful. there may be people with concerned and affected by the type of hysteria fanned by people like netanyahu and it is
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useful for people to allow this deal to go through. >> ann curry joins us now from switzerland and do you get the feeling these negotiations continue to be fiendingful and pro -- meaningful and productive? >> reporter: exactly. and we asked the foreign minister about that and he said we are very very close. and they very important news as people are asking whether or not this deal will be successful. we don't know. we do know that iranians are saying we will work around the clock and there is a resumption of discussions on march 15th. so it looks like they are moving. they are moving closer. they are technical advisers from the united states and from iran working constantly on the subject of the technical issues. you just heard zarif talk about, the technical issues were raised by the prime minister of israel yesterday who raised concerns about whether essentially iran can be trusted. well today in our interview, our
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exclusive interview, the iranian foreign minister accused the prime minister netanyahu of fear mongering and also said that he has been distorting the facts, including on scripture and also on this deal. so it is very interesting. we actually talked for about an hour and we'll have more about this on "nbc nightly news" tonight, tom. >> ann curry reporting in switzerland. and great work. thank you. we appreciate it. and new video just in from the white house. this is where president obama just finished signing the department of homeland security funding bill. that is the bill that will continue to keep the department running -- operational. as we know the congress had only put on a kick the can down the road kind of measure for five days of keeping the lights on and now a much longer deal agreed upon yesterday. and now we'll check in on
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frances rivera. >> and benghazi will pursue additional resource to obtain hillary clinton private e-mails. and joining me from capitol hill is luke russert. and another dimension in this fascinating story. what do we now know? >> reporter: this is a fascinating dimension because it seems to say that hillary clinton e-mail coming forward while at the state department will snow ball. benghazi the department had a press conference and said they were aware of this last summer and multiple personal e-mails and they wanted to get to the bottom of it and the e-mails pertained to benghazi. the american ambassador was killed a number of years ago. but what is interesting with conversations from those close to the committee, democrats were caught completely by surprise by this. democrats on committee, the ranking member elijah comings
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going into the house chamber and he said did you know about the e-mails from mrs. clinton and he said that is not accurate and they were to give seven days in the prior to any subpoena occurring. so this is going to be a dust-up with this committee on capitol hill that is going to be a thorn in the side of hillary clinton probably for at least the rest of this year. if this committee does move forward on subpoenas which is all indications that they will in fact do she will more likely not have to testify before the committee which she said she would, maybe multiple times or perhaps a deposition in her feature. but benghazi and hillary clinton is not going away any time soon. >> no this kicking that up. a thorn in the side of a very crucial year leading up to 2016. luke russert thank you. a lot to digest as this news is coming up. >> and more to tell everybody about, because at the top of the hour, frances, we are expected
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more now from our breaking news. moments from now eric holder expected to speak after the justice department announced it will not charge former ferguson police officer wilson in the death of michael brown. but they did find a pattern of civil rights violations by the ferguson police department. joining me is trymaine lee covering the events from ferguson since the beginning of this. and also joining the conversation jeffrey mitman the executive director of the aclu of missouri. so the parents of michael brown released a statement saying while we are saddened by this decision we are encouraged that the d.o.j. will hold the police department accountable for the
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pattern of racial bias in the pattern of interactions and it is our hope that through this action, our son's death will be not in vain. and i know you spend several weeks on the ground in ferguson after it happened. how does this support what the community has felt for a long time. >> i've spent the last hour and a half on the phone, i spoke with the family attorney and spoke with a dozen of protestors and family officials down in ferguson folks didn't expect anything different, they are still hurt and resigned in the effect that everything they've been saying from august and even before then about the way the police have been targeting black people in ferguson is validated on one hand and invalidated that what may have put mightal brown and -- michael brown together in ferguson might have been policing. but there is still the deep sense of loss here.
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>> we're looking at the live shot that we are speaking about. jeffrey, what is your reaction to this. because it wasn't anticipated that darren wilson would be found guilty of any type of crime because of the civil rights bar being so high but it is damming -- damning of the ferguson police and the modus operandi. >> if you report the report it is sadening and angering and you will see this here in the community as an opportunity. we can agree the evidence issin controvertible and if you are african-american you are policing different. we must come up with new community policing models to stop this treatment. >> we'll see what eric holder has to say coming um. jeff my mitman and trymaine lee. and that will wrap things up for
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thft. and "the cycle" is coming up. >> and as our coverage continues, we'll have eric holders remarks live and comments from trymaine lee's reporting continues and looking at the report. and we'll discuss the aca case with a former aid to president clinton and tony robbins on "the cycle" here in studio as well. that should be interesting. stay with us. american express for travel and entertainment worldwide. just show them this - the american express card.
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plans to address the issues. the killing of michael brown sparked protest nationwide. and also this afternoon d.o.j. announcing it did not find evidence to pursue federal civil rights charges in that case. to be clear, today's report on the entire ferguson police department is distinct from that brown inquiry. now joining us now, trymaine lee who has been reporting on this story and matthew miller a former aide to attorney general holder. thank you for joining us on what is a busy day for the justice department. matt matt, let me start with you, having worked for this attorney general, what is on his mind on these goals coming out any minute, to address the nation everyone watching on the out comes of these two very different investigations. >> i think there are two goals. one is a lasting
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