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real genuine anger. >> abovelove for bill. >> you've been pretending that you've hated him for eight years but now you're starting to feel something. is that it? >> snow tomorrow from that guy. >> bill karins. >> first day of spring. >> tomorrow, on the first day of spring. i remember last year willie said, at the end of february he said, boy, it's been cold. thank god march is coming. then we both looked at each other, no wait no it just gets worse. >> mike barnicle is here. mark halperin is here. >> as a southerner here i can handle the horrible weather in december. i can handle the terrible weather in january. i can handle it in february. i tell you what you get to march, you get to st. patrick's day and you still have to worry about snow in? at that point the gig is up. >> go to chicago. >> i don't -- >> really. >> i love chicago in july.
>> please. i had a wool coat on in the first week in june. >> unbelievable. >> yeah. >> mike barnicle is here thinking none of us have any reason to whine. >> i might see the ground by memorial day. >> the instagram, my lord there is so much snow. we've got a lot on every headline here except of course this one ironic. >> strange but we'll get to that a little bit later. bill as first lady. >> the whole thing made me uncomfortable. we begin over seas with a manhunt under way for up to three suspects connected to a shocking massacre at a museum in tunisia's capital. 19 people are confirmed dead. more than 40 others injured. two gunman also killed. the horror began around noon as tourists were exiting buses at the museum in tunis. armed militants dressed in military uniforms jumped out of
a car and opened fire. one witness says the gunmen were, quote, shooting at anything that moved the the carnage did not end there as the attackers ran into umuseum to take hostages. dozens were evacuated before police forces traded fire with the gunman. the museum is less than three miles from the center of the city and attack triggered a lock down at the parliament building nearby. hours after deadliest attack on civilians in 13 iceyears. the president vowed the country would respond without mercy to terrorist, quote, until they exterminated. isis linked twitter accounts praised the gunmen behind the attack. roughly 3,000 people from tunisia have joined the islamic state. more than any other country. meanwhile, thousands of tunisians chanted free tunisia at a nighttime rally to remember the victims. the arab spring began in 2011
when the dictator was over thrown but the country has faced economic troubles since then. also sweden. >> really quickly though. we look back at the arab spring and remember how excited so many people were that dictators were going to be over thrown. this began in tunisia. there was just a man with a cart that was brutalized by the government, set himself on fire. and suddenly you're seeing one tyrant after another fall. and we think great things are coming in egypt. free elections lead to the muslim brotherhood. that leads to disastrous presidency of morsi. that's gone back to military rule. you look at the palestinians. they're given free elections. they elect hamas. that leds to more conflict. extremists that have promised war forever. it's happening across the middle east. unfortunately this is something that u.s. foreign policymakers are having to grapple with. and they will for some time. that in some instances more freedom in the middle east has not led to more stability for
its people. >> they certainly were warnings of setsbacks when it again. this was the developing news out of europe. several people were shot at a restaurant in sweden's second largest city. police confirmed two victims have died but say the death toll is expected to rise. witnesses say two men walked into the crowded restaurant and opened fire at this hour authorities say there is no evidence it's related to terrorism. they say gang violence is common in the area and gang members were inside the restaurant. police are currenting searching for possible suspects. >> we haven't heard from representative aaron schock following his resignation announcement but his dad came out and talked about his son, who he was obviously very proud of. >> i know. >> and i certainly felt the father's pain. >> i do. >> and standing by his son in a way that was, i think, very good for his son. >> dr. richard schock defended his son while acknowledging problems surrounding the republican's expense reporting.
>> i know it's you know a law. so yeah he's broke the law. if they're going to convict him on paperwork, they're going to convict him. and that's their privilege. if it's the law and he broke the law and they want to convict him on that fine. but he has done a lot of good in his life. aaron is a little different, you know know. he wear ss stylish clothing and yet he's not gay. so you know everybody is tloeg up their arms they can't figure out aaron. so he must be crook eded. you know so attack him. >> schock's resignation is going to end the housest thicks
investigation. according to a spokesperson all mileage expenses and reimbursements have been repaid to the government. as for schock's future once he steps down later this month, dr. schock has high hopes for his son. >> ten years from now, whatever he's doing he will be successful at, i promise you that. two years from now, he will be successful because -- if he's not in jail. >> a criminal investigation is still possible. schock plans to resign on march 31st. >> all right, so what it might be hard for aaron schock to realize right now is no matter how bad things seem to be this morning, that fitzgerald is wrong. there are second acts in american life. and you can look at bill clinton, a guy that was, you know accused of perjuring himself in a grand jury who lied in a deposition while he was president of the united states he got disbarred by the
united states supreme court, if i'm not mistaken disbarred in arkansas, and yet clinton is one of the most admired americans in poll after poll what he's done with cgi is incredible. a couple nights ago i was sitting next to mark sanford, a guy that everybody, friends with sanford, took the phone calls from him five six years ago. he was despondent, he was the butt of every joke in america and now he's back and he's making a difference. and this happens to republicans, this happens to democrats, and you know what they fight their way back. that's something that aaron schock needs to know this morning. mike, the older you get the more you realize when somebody's in the middle of something like this, you know i mean you can even look at eliot spitzer who is a guy that was just abused by the new york press, but he came close to winning his last election and his career may
still not be over. >> well, eliot spitzer and hundreds, thousands of other people from coast to coast, what you realize is forgiveness is a stream that runs very wide in the american spirit. as long as you, you know focus on what you've done you admit to what you've done whatever it is but americans are very for forgiving. >> mark halperin? >> a lented guy who made mistakes. generally if you're talented and you stay at it you will do fine. another story, more trouble on a college campus in the united states. an investigation is under way this morning into the apparent bloody arrest of a university of virginia student outside a bar. cellphone video shows the scene early wednesday morning when 20-year-old johnson was being arrested. the friend who shot the video says johnson was denied entry to the bar and then questioned by agents from the virginia alcohol beverage control. according to the friend johnson asked one of them to let go of his arm and tried pulling away. he was then wrestled to the ground. the friend telling the associated press, quote, he
wasn't being aggressive at all. while the agent who made the arrest said johnson was very agitated and beblinlg rent. the two agents have been restricted to administrative duties while they investigate. a still foet so of johnson's bloody face quickly went viral on social media and prompted a rally on campus last night with about 1,000 students voicing their support and demanding justice. at one point johnson himself addressed the crowd. >> we are all part of one community. >> yeah. >> it will be dezefed to respect each other, especially in times like this. thank you. >> now virginia governor terry mcauliffe is asking the state police to condition duct an investigation into the use of force during the arrest. abc says it will assist the investigation. johnson has been charge with two misdemeanor, obstruction of justice without force and public swearing or intoxication. >> roland martin weigh? >> well, here's what i'm trying
to understand. so he's denied entry and there's a need for two police officers to go over and begin to question him? see, i always go back to what took place -- what led to him even being stopped and questioned simply being denied. and all of a sudden you end up bloodied because you couldn't get into a bar? again, this is where we have to question police actions and motive, what causes you to cross that threshold and get to that point. but that to me is what i need to understand. >> yeah. that's what obviously, willie well be finding out in the next two or day, exactly what happened. one thing is for sure that police are going to be looked at in this new era, this post-ferguson era, no matter what happens they're going to be looked at and especially when it involves a black -- young black male. and it's for good reason. >> yeah. and we don't want to speculate. we don't know what happened before, during, or after. we saw some of the cellphone
video there but he was -- johnson is 20 years old. perhaps he was trying to get into a bar underage, something like that. speculation. obviously doesn't mean he should have been treated that way. >> we don't know what happened before. >> right. >> but what we do know is and what police every should know is that everyone has a cellphone and whatever happens is going to be on video. let's turn to politician politics. we're going to turn to presidential politics. new poll suggests hillary clinton's standing -- >> i bet it's been -- it bets it's lower than it's ever been because this scandal that everybody is talking about. is she actually behind? is joe biden ahead now by three or four or five? >> her standing -- >> let's go an over/under. >> it's unchanged by news about her use of private e-mail while serve as secretary of state. >> it shows clinton leading vice
president joe biden among democrats by -- >> this is february's poll. >> -- 47 percentage points the same amount she led by in the february poll. nearly seven in ten democrats believe clinton is their best chance at winning the white house. >> i bet though -- okay. so the democrats have nobody going for them so i bet though that jeb bush -- because jeb has had a great run, right? willie what do you think? maybe two points ahead, five points, ten points ahead? it's neck and neck, right? it's got to be neck and neck. a horse race where you've got, you take the picture. >> she fared well in potential match-up for republicans as well. >> see, i told you that jeb bush was going to have some problems right, willie? what did i say? >> that thing you just said. >> yeah, i said that. so i bet though scott walker, he sort of conservative -- >> scott walker she leads by the same amount. senator rand paul comes closest with 43% saying they'd be more likely to back him.
>> never mind. >> okay. >> mark halperin this is what somebody said it last week whatever doesn't kill the clintons makes them stronger. they're like political redwoods another layer has been added. petrified forest more like it. another layer of rocks around those trees. >> she's got a lot of strength. she's the democratic nominee at a time when democrats have won the popular vote in five of six last elections. well-known she's got a lot of support but i was up in new hampshire with john doing focus groups and i have to say, spinner, carville no one cares about this. we did a democratic focus group, people supported her. even people who really support her, they knew a ton about the e-mail controversy and they raised it repeatedly as the thing they were concerned about. >> we're going to show some of that litater then jeb bush as
well. >> jeb did surprisingly horrible horrible. >> i have heard in focus group -- here's the thing. i keep hearing this. focus group of focus group after focus group, people are shocked by the responses to jeb. still ahead on "morning joe," valerie jarrett, republican congresswoman christi noen. >> is valerie coming on to say nice things about he? >> i mad a nice visit with her at the white house and she did say some things about you. plus what you learn about political candidates based on their social media account. we've learned a lot. halperin reveals the one man nearly all republican contenders follow on twitter. >> joe nbc, right? >> and if only he had a mulligan what president obama says he would have done differently if he had a do over. plus, we'll debut a harrowing new report from our partners that goes to the front lines in syria where iranian
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all right. let's look at the morning papers. "usa today," the pentagon says the mastermind of the 2013 attack on a mall in kenya was killed by a u.s. drone in somalia. officials say the drone struck a vehicle driven by garar the leader of the group with ties to al qaeda on march 12th. it claimed the lives of 67 people and let more than 200 injured. from the huffington post president obama says if he could redo his time in office he would have shut the detention center in guantanamo bay, cuba on his first day. >> exactly! >> why didn't he do it tomorrow. >> do it tomorrow. >> do it tomorrow right? >> during a speech in cleveland though the president ebbs flandxplained what went wrong. >> i would have closed guantanamo on the first day. i didn't because at that time as you will recall we had a by part tan agreement that it
should be closed. the republican -- my republican opponent had also said it should have been closed. but the politics of it got tough and people got scared by the rhetoric around it. and once that set in then the path of least resistance was just to leave it open even though it's not who we are as a country. us yooed by used by terrorists around the world to help recruit jihadists. so instead we've just had to chip away at it year after year after year. >> as ofz january this year 122 prisoners still detained at guantanamo bay. guys what do you think? >> he said he made the promise. we said he couldn't keep the promise. it's koch plitcomplicated. i told mika a year ahead of time, he's never going to be able to do this. for him to say six years later, i should have done it day one. good do it you're president.
>> there are so many things that went wrong when it was set up in the first place. >> so complicated, mark halperin. if it was just simple that dick cheney was evil they could go i'm going to be good. no, it's not that way. this wasn't a comic book. he wasn't captain america. he couldn't just put on the helmet and the mask and the "a" and go in there and run and save the world. >> former secretary of state likes to say, could have, should have would have. >> as john boehner says if apples and nuts were -- >> exactly. >> okay. let's move on willie. >> this is a terrible story from the "new york times" this morning. 37-year-old woman died after being struck by plywood that blew off a construction site in new york city's greenwichville ranlg lanlg. he was slammed against a wall. witnesses said there were strong wind gusts in the area at the time of the incident. it was windy here yesterday. the city's buildings department has issued a full stop work order for the site in addition to issuing violations to the
contractor. so sad. >> terrible. the "wall street journal," target is the latest retailer raising workers' hourry wage. they will be paid at least $9 an hour. the move follows similar minimum wage raises by rivals walmart and t.j. maxx. target employs about 347,000 people in the united states. >> it's happening. you know what? valerie and i in the conversation we will see later, this is what we're talking about because she's been working with ceos trying to get them to come onboard with increasing the minimum wage and also making schedules more workable for working families. >> the great news is the market is driving this. you have walmart being driven to do this because the market is tightening up. now you have t.j. maxx following. you've got target following. that's not just great news for people inside this store. it indicates something much bigger is happening in america and let's hope willie that finally wage stagnation goes away. there are a lot of working class and middle class people that need to get raises.
>> and these are big companies taking the leap. let's see if others follow. from necn ben and jerry's is known for shaking up the ice cream industry but the latest venture is kicking old-fashioned ice cream trauk trucks to the curb. it's taking its products across the country this summer in a luxury $80,000 tesla that will double as an ice cream serving station. ben and jerry's also the sedan to spark a conversation about climate change. >> nice. >> we want to use the power and voice of the company to take on bigger issues. and we feel lucky to be able to do it. >> ben and jerry's says if you tweet them about your work on climate change the tesla could make a stop in your city. mark halperin raises an important question where does ice cream go? it's nots a creepy as an ice cream truck should be. the guy leaning over the thing ringing the bell. >> what's going on in there? >> is that a bell? >> i wonder. i was invited into one of those? >> were you invited in the ice
cream truck in the south of france? i didn't know they had ace cream trucks in the south of france. >> it's sorbet truck. >> willie the shag carpet is deep into brzezinski's background. >> what is wrong with you? >> you need one of those rakes to dig up all the dirt. >> do you remember what the psychologist wrote you? just stop. go. >> what is she talking about? >> a psychologist that wrote joe a letter a doctor. >> a doctor wrote me a letter and said that i'm a trained psychiatrist and obviously you like to joke about mika's background in the south of france. obviously upsets her and you should be more sensitive to her. >> it was a long letter by an actual psychologist. >> she explained what i might be doing might bring up bad memories. i should write her back and say if mika wouldn't bring it up every third day with a punch line. >> mika, it's your fault.
>> just don't mention beamish to her. >> from "time." nintendo announced why your smartphone will distract you. some company's biggest games will be designed for play on phones. july my jimmy fallon had news on how nintendo affected the stock yesterday. >> nintendo announced plans to develop games for smartphone which caused their stock to go up 24% in one day. or nintendo put it -- >> oh, that's super mario sound, remember that? >> well, if you don't want to look like a bunch of creeps you might want to just confirm the next attorney general. >> i'm sorry? >> senator dick durbin is now the latest democrat to accuse republicans of discrimination for the way they handled the nomination of loretta lynch to be the next attorney general. she has enough republican support to be confirmed but majority leader mitch mcconnell says the senate won't consider her nomination until democrats give in on a human trafficking
bill that contains provision on abortion. here with senator on the senate floor yesterday. >> loretta lynch, first african-american lady to be nominated attorney general is asked to sit on the back of the bus when it comes to the senate calendar. that is unfair. it's unjust. it is beneath the decorum and dignity of the united states senate. >> hours later, senator tim scott, the chamber's only black republican hit back accusing durbin of race baiting. really? but the holdup does raise questions. >> wait. we don't have that? we don't have that clip? >> wait a minute you really don't want to -- >> we don't have the race baiting clip but we don't have the clip of the black republican accusing -- >> that was not race baiting. >> listen, we understand what this is about. and it's not about race. >> hmm, okay.
i would -- i'm just saying the republicans are opening themselves up to all of this. name one attorney general that has taken longer to be confirmed, name one attorney general nominee that has a cleaner, more exemplary record than loretta lynch. on top of it they don't like eric holder they want him out of there. this is politics. they're opening themselves up to this. this is just as -- >> no, you can't just say if you have a procedural battle between two sides about a rider that was added to a human trafficking bill -- >> they promised. >> if you would let me finish. i'll say, it's a procedural matter that goes back and forth time and time again. now, if tick durbindick durbin and other democrats feel comfortable race baiting over something they know is a procedural battle then let them go ahead and do that.
what tim scott and what other people will tell you is mark halperin, there are a lot of republicans that really like loretta lynch, love her sons. >> they should probably -- >> thinks she's one of the best country singers in -- oh, that's the wrong one. there's a procedural battle going on. >> there is. republicans, i don't think, should be using her confirmation as a pawn but i also think dick durbin shouldn't have said that. >> roland that's where i am. we need an attorney general. republicans like her. rudy giuliani says positive things about her. >> look at her career. >> she's a professional. and they should stop the procedural games, let her pass and then have this battle over this rider. >> precisely. so here's my idea. let's stop giving them the excuse of the procedural battle. people out there don't care. they're being paid more than $170,000. you've got staff. a vote takes 15 minutes. how hard is it to simply call a vote up?
in fact, senator mitch mcconnell last week said he was going to do it but they made changed his mind on cnn with dana bash, the whole trafficking bill. no actually get to work. the rest of us actually do more than one thing at one time. how hard is it to do it? so if you had the vote you wouldn't get called up by durbin, senator scott would have to respond. i say get to work, mcconnell. it's 15 lousy minutes. >> let me ask you this because i do think it gets into dangerous territory when you have a presentation like senator durbin had. having said that when it takes this long an unprus dented amount of time, her record is clean, everybody agrees that she should be the next attorney general, there are cases waiting. there's a job that needs to be filled. you open yourself up to wondering what it must be that is causing this ridiculous completely uncalled for holdup. >> mika listen.
it's not just loretta lynch. it's judges who have been held up. >> right. >> it's ambassadors who have been held up. it's assistant secretaries who have been held up. as the old, you know jesus loves the little children of the world, roland they're red and yellow, black and white, all are precious in god's white. jesus loves all the little children in the world but the republicans block them. this doesn't just have to do with loretta lynch. >> this is different. >> this has to do -- it's not. roland, is this different? is this different? please, i want somebody to just tell me, does somebody think the race baiting has been thrown out there by dick durbin who i like very much and respect, but i want the person who believes around this set that loretta lynch is being held up because she is a black woman to speak now. go ahead. >> i'll start with you, roland. >> look i think she's being held up because of politics. okay. first of all she's replacing an african-american.
>> exactly. >> we have to call it out for what it is. and that's what it is. look let's also be clear. you had a woman who was appointed to a federal bench, republican administration, i can't remember her name right now, who is an african-american who was conservative, who also was denied confirmation. >> exactly. >> that's what it is. but let's -- i think for the american people we should be challenging this lazy do nothing congress whether it's led by republicans or democrats, to get to work. we all have to go to work every day and do more than one thing. >> roland makes a very relevant point. i don't remember her name right now but i can tell you it seemed for a while that every conservative black appointee or hispanic appointee that george w. bush put up you had chuck schumer blocking it. >> miguel estrada. >> miguel estrada is a number one example. it's a tragedy what they did with miguel estrada.
there were black women held up by chuck schumer because they were black women. he did not want a black woman on the court, a black conservative woman on the court. nobody was talking about race baiting then. >> you think they should move forward. >> i do. but you think -- you think, do you not that dick durbin crossed the line. >> he went far. coming up -- >> did he cross the line? >> coming up -- probably. coming up the republican national contender have a lot in common until it comes to following president obama on twitter. we'll tell you the lone gop hopeful who is keeping tabs on the commander of chief. keep it right here on "morning joe." in one year 5.6 million hospital workers helped perform 26.6 million surgeries deliver 3.7 million babies and treat 133 million e.r. patients. now congress is considering cuts which could increase wait times reduce staff, and threaten your community's health. keep the heart of america's hospitals strong.
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if the primary were today, somebody who would vote for deb bush, anybody? >> i'm just not a fan. i mean i don't think the bushes are generally bad people. if he was, you know, the only choice, then i would choose him opposed to a democrat. >> that's a ringing endorsement. >> but i just -- i don't know. i don't like him. i'm not for him. >> if he had become a candidate before the two of them yes. but after his father and his brother, i don't think he will have a chance. >> anybody think he's got a good chance? >> no. >> anybody think he's the front-runner? probably not.
>> no. >> let's think about some of the negative things about hillary clinton to the extent there are some. what do you like least about her? what's most troubling to you about her? >> the e-mail thing. >> transparency issues. >> i don't think it was handled very well. i think that plays into your ability to make decisions in the big office. >> okay. absolutely fascinating. >> you can just look in their faces. no nonsense. what was that mark? >> so john and i went up with purple strategies and did two focus groups. one were democratic nominations independents, and one with republicans. and really interesting, important voices about hillary clinton and about jeb bush, the two supposed front runners. >> who was your take away on hillary? >> on hillary, paul begala and other defenders are saying no one is paying attention and no one cares. the people you saw there were mostly strong hillary clinton supporters. they don't want anyone to run against her. they want her to be president. their knowledge of and intense concern about what she did with her e-mails was striking.
they said she should have an independent person look at her server. what she did was not just politically bad but troubled. >> still strong supporters. >> still strong supporters but it puts a lot of the notion that people are not paying attention and not concerned. strong supporters of her in new hampshire, really concerned about it. >> it seems to go against what a lot of clinton defenders were saying, that voters don't care about this. >> exactly. this is the first time i've heard any voices of real voters and such an important state for her say we love her, we want her to be president but really she did -- didn't do right here. >> bottom line counting the votes, nobody is in there wearing elizabeth warren buttons. >> no change in whether they're for her. clinton people are going around saying no one is paying attention. new hampshire voters are great. really well informed about this and genuinely concerned. not just on politics. >> a month ago i was shocked. i like jeb. i like jeb a lot. so i was shocked when -- i guess there was an abc focus group. everybody was so negative about
jeb bush. you got the same thing yesterday in new hampshire. >> really changed my view of where jeb stands in this race. he's the front-runner i think, by some measures but people in that room were -- you saw at the end in that clip when i said do you think he's the front-runner they laughed. they don't like his positions. they don't know very much about him. that's the only silver lining for him. but they think too many bushes don't like common core don't like immigration, and don't understand why anyone would be for him. >> we heard a variety of reasons including the last name. if they didn't like jeb bush what was the name they gave you? republican voters. >> the ones they liked, they liked karly fear written no. they really liked her. one woman described her bio in great detail totally accurate. another woman said i don't know much about her but that sounds good. they liked scott walker and the fact he stood up. >> chris christie? >> they liked chris christie. i've been saying christie has a chance in new hampshire. there are a lot of ties in the state culturally.
they move back and forth. they like the fact that he's tough and a leader. i think clear that that's a state where he's got a chance. other people they didn't know all that well. but what they want is someone who will change washington. >> all right. very interesting. >> establishment change. we're going to have a lot more of those tonight. >> by the way, there's a nationwide poll that just came out that has bush walker, and paul the top. those are generic nationwide polls that but rudy giuliani in first place for a long time. for jeb to win, he's going to have to go up to new hampshire and win in hand to hand combat. >> off that focus group i don't know whether he can but it speaks to, we can make fun of new hampshire and the first in the nation primary, but it's an extremely sophisticated electorate. >> yes it is. up next our parter ins at vocativ vetted with members of the free syrian army who drove around with an explosive belt on the dashboard. incredible footage, straight ahead on "morning joe." [ male announcer ] legalzoom has helped start over 1 million businesses.
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lately more it's staff members getting in trouble and often online. a political operative aligned with dr. ben carson recently deleted a twitter account loaded with crude language targeting the obama, among others. aide to governor scott walker operation resigned after one day on the job after coming under fire for past tweets seen as critical of iowan voters. and the chief technology officer to jeb bush's pac resigned last month after his past offensive tweets surfaced in the media. speaking of twitter, we have analysis of 2016 gop candidates follow on twitter. what did you find out? >> my colleague did twitter, everybody uses it. looked at the accounts of 617 potential republican candidates. the most followed person by them is jim demint 15 out of 17 followed them, the heritage foundation
foundation. and then mediawise, which is more popular? drudge, they get more of them follow drudge than the "new york times." and then president obama, he's got like millions of twitter followers. the only republican presidential candidate who follows him is rand paul. the rest of them are apparently not interested in the president's tweets. these are not accounts the would be candidates themselves manage but it's just interesting to see the patterns and the choices they make. drudge over "the new york times" and jim demint over the president. >> don't you want to know? >> exactly. you would think. >> millions of to lowers can't be wrong. >> all right. any of them follow comedy central? >> there's some of that. you don't know who maintains the accounts and how they use them. it's interesting to see. coming up at the top of the hour details emerging behind the gunman that took part in that shocking massacre in the museum in tunisia. the stunning admission just moments ago by turkey's prime minister. plus you have less than six hours left to fill out your march madness brackets.
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doogie howser wannabe aaron schock famous for his "downton abbey" style office and pent out instagram feed has come to a decision. >> congressman aaron schock is resigning from congress. >> really? the constant scandal questions are too much of a distraction for you? not the zip lining through a rain forest or parasailing in argentina or chilling with buddhist monks in myanmar. you competed on "the amazing race." still, i imagine resigning is thardest thing aaron schock will have to do besides cleaning out his desk. anybody know how to bubble wrap pheasant feathers? >> mark halperin mike barnicle and roland martin still with us. joining us now, "morning joe" economic analyst steve rattner. good to have you onboard.
>> you see -- >> good morning. >> there are new developments in the shocking massacre at a museum in tunisia's capitol. the country's prime minister admitted one of the gunman was being tracked by authorities. at least 19 people are dead after the attack. more than 40 others are injured. two gunmen were killed and after three other suspects are still being sought. the horrow began around noon as tourists were exiting buses at the bardo museum. they jumped out of a car and opened fire. one witness says the gunmen were, quote, shooting at anything that moved. the carnage did not end there as the attackers ran into the museum taking hostages. dozens of people inside were evacuated before police and security forces traded fire with the gunmen. the museum is less than three miles from the center of the city and the attack triggered a lock down at the parliament building nearby. hours after, the deadliest attack on civilians in tunisia
in 13 years, its president said his nation was in a war with terror. he vowed the country would respond without mercy to terrorists, quote, until they are exterminated. isis-linked twitter accounts praised the gunmen behind the attack roughly 3,000 people from tunisia have joined the islamic state. more than any other country. meanwhile, thousands of tunisian tunisians chanted free tunisia at a nighttime rally to remember the victims p the arab spring began in tunisia in 2011 when its dictator was over thrown but the country has faced economic troubles since then. >> you know, the old saying power pours a vacuum mika. certainly proves to be true with the arab spring. you look what's happened since there have been elections there elections that we cheered on, elections that george w. bush encouraged. you can see what happened, of course, the palestinians had a free election they brought in hamas. a lot more troubles there.
egypt was also part of the arab spring and there's just been chaos there ever since. morsi comes in promising reforms, instead it just gets worse. the muslim brotherhood. now egypt has reverted back to form. now you look at the chaos that's spreading across the middle east. the arab spring has not turned out the way we expected it to. >> with that backdrop we move to israel where there is growing uncertainty about ties between the united states and israel after israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu's decisive victory in his country's elections. in an apparent smub president obama did not call netanyahu to congratulate i'm. secretary of state john kerry did speak briefly to the prime minister. netanyahu is being criticized by the white house for warning supporters that israeli arabs were outvoting in droves. press secretary josh earnest called it divisive rhetoric that was deeply concerning.
the prime minister visited the western wall one day after his surprisingly strong victory. he says he is honored by the support and will do all he can to protect israel. but dividend ak excel rod, president obama's former senior adviser, says what netanyahu did to win the campaign may cause long-term problems. >> netanyahu is a great politician. and nobody has ever questioned that. he's always been willing to do whatever was necessary to keep himself in power. and in this case it meant rupping a very divisive campaign at the end and abandoning his six-year-long commitment to two-state solution to the palestinian question. there are troubling dimensions to this and particularly the manner in which netanyahu chose to run his campaign in the last few weeks. he mortgaged the future in order to win an election. >> the state department is not giving up on two-state solution. take a look. >> when you say you're going to re-evaluate the approach to how
best to bring about two-state solution implicit in that i think, i just want to make sure is that you are still going to push for a two-state solution. >> yes absolutely. >> how, exactly are you going to do that if one of the parties to the two-state solution is pushing back? >> well, matt we'll remain in trust with key stakeholders to find a way forward. we're not quite there yet. >> no kidding you're not there yet. you're further away from it now than you have been probably ever before because now you have a prime minister who has been re-elected or is about -- looks like he's about to form a government who says that two-state solution is not what is in the best interest of israel. >> i understand that. that's why i said we're going to be evaluating. >> all right. a lot is being made of this rift between the president and the prime minister. not making the congratulatory call. mark halperin informed us in
break that usually haven't made the call until they form the government. isn't a lot of this the press kicking up dust? i know they don't like each other. i know -- but you know what the united states has to deal with israel and israel has to deal with the united states. i think this isn't much ado about nothing but there's a lot of kicking and whining going on right now that's not going to be relevant. >> yeah. there's a lot of kicking and whine that isn't going to be relevant. it's also a fact that the relationship between obama and netanyahu is not exactly road buddy kind of relationship. and i think to mark's point, i think as soon as it is appropriate obama should call netanyahu and put this all to rest. why create a little kerfuffle when there's no need to. >> boy, mike, the resentment from the state department from the white house, benjamin netanyahu, they were openly cheering against him and you can just -- people like david axelrod, they were with contempt for victory.
they can say they didn't like the way he won. benjamin netanyahu coming out the day after barack obama won and criticizing him. i'm not saying moral relativity. but it's just -- it seemed a little in the weeds. a foreign leader win, then you've got to figure out how are you going to deal with that foreign leader for two years. >> one, the secretary of state did call netanyahu yesterday. secondly, it's proof once again -- >> how was it called do you know? >> not great. >> it was not a great call? >> not a lot of yidish jokes. >> no it was shlt a big slap on the back congratulations. >> perfunctory. >> keeping the communication lines open. israel has no backup nation to go to. they're not going -- france can you fill the void of the united states? this relationship is going to continue. the third and probably most important point that we underestimate here as americans is if you live in israel or anywhere in the middle east and
you are given the chance between, you know progress of any kind economic security you're going to take security in that area of the world. >> two things that matter now is will the united states continue to defend israel's positions at the united nations because there's going to be a lot of pressure for the u.s. to go along with the palestinian resolution there and the other is the iran talks. president obama thinks not just for legacy but it's the right thing to make a deal. if there is a deal netanyahu and the republicans are going to be going to war to stop the deal. i think that's going to be a huge flash point. >> i think right now that has so much to do with the edge in this relationship. for barack obama, i do believe he sees his legacy as making a deal with iran. a nuclear deal with iran. and netanyahu doesn't want that. the people of israel don't want that. most americans don't think that's going to stick, either. so the president is going to be having to push back a good bit and that's part of the crisis. i will only say this about people saying the two-state solution is dead.
nixon was the only person who could go to china because he had spent 30 years as -- 25 years as an anticommunist. the most strident anticommunist, he was on the anti-american activities in the 1950s. ran as the coldest of the cold warriors. he opened china. ronald reagan was considered a right wing saber rattling fanatic, anticommunist fanatic. he just slashed and burned any republican that would do deals with the soviet union, any republican that would even talk about arms control, any republican that would even talk about day todd. he could call them weak and ineffective. and ronald reagan from '86 on spent the last three years working aggressively striking one deal after another forle arms reduction with the soviet union. so i'm not saying that netanyahu is ronald reagan or richard
nixon but nobody believed at the time that richard nixon was richard nixon or ronald reagan was ronald reagan. if you told anybody in 18984 that ronald way againreagan was going to spend his last term striking deals with the soviet union they would have laughed you out of the hall where he was preaching anticommunism. >> okay. the only thing -- >> he had a willing partner though. >> yeah. >> and the question is are the palestinians going to be netanyahu's willing partner? nobody believed in 1984 that the soviet union was going to be a willing partner. >> true. >> and gorbachev came along. all up saying is things always change in politics. and sometimes the very thing that you think is going to block a deal opens the path to a deal. netanyahu has been politically afraid. he's shown absolutely no courage over the past several years. maybe this victory gives him an opening. steve? >> you may well be right.
all i was going to say is i think at this moment given the iran in our foreign policy given isis given the relationship between barack obama and netanyahu, i wouldn't set your watch by when this is likely to happen. i think all the points you make are good ones i just think the timing is way out there somewhere. >> it is. >> way out there. there's, again a lot of focus on obama and if he reaches out to netanyahu and i think it's fair to say that the final moves before this election by benjamin netanyahu really caused some issues. i mean -- >> i'll agree. >> comments about the voters in droves and palestinian state, that makes it tough. that's not caused by our president. that's him. >> it's a great opportunity though for our president to be a bigger man. it's a great opportunity. i'm just saying politically, this is not about barack obama. it's a great opportunity. take that opportunity. >> okay. so i want to hear more about these focus groups. you and john heilemann did a series of these.
i love the first two little sections that we saw. you were in new hampshire talking to voters about the health of jeb bush and hillary clinton's likely run for the presidency. let's talk now about jeb. here's what new hampshire republicans had to say about jeb bush. >> and i want to start with jeb bush who was just here over the weekend. >> i don't need to keep voting for bush over again over and over again or a clinton over and over again. we need some fresh -- fresh faces. >> the common core issue, i'm also a teacher. politicians have no place in the classroom. >> i don't think he can stand on immigration and things like that. he -- it's it is not something i would vote for. >> i think he's not got any chance at all really. >> who in the room right now considers himself, if the primary were today, would vote for jeb bush, anybody? sglup el not a fan. i don't think the bushes are generally bad people. if he was the only choice i would choose him as opposed to a democrat. >> ringing endorsement.
>> but i just -- i don't know. i don't like him. i'm not for him. >> if he had become a candidate before the two of them yes. but after his father and his brother, i don't think he will have a chance. >> anybody thinks he's got a good chance? >> i don't think so. >> anybody think he's a front runner? probably not. >> i mean they're just saying no without even -- they're just uh-uh. that's it. no thanks. >> i've been saying that i think he's a stronger front-runner than people thought. that focus group of republicans and independents who claim to vote in the primary change my view of where he stands. they don't like his positions. they don't think the country should have another bush. i asked them what could governor bush say to you, they said nothing. that was the whole room. whole room. >> lack of curiosity even. >> mark, if you felt he was the front-runner, that obviously came from talking to other people as you wander around the country and talk to individual citizens why do you think this focus group was so different?
>> the focus group is not scientific and perhaps there are other people in new hampshire who would feel otherwise. i think he's a very strong candidate. i think he can raise a lot of money, candidate skills are good. i think he will be seen as the most lebltable. but these voters didn't care about elect i believeable. they laughed when i said do you think he's the front-runner. i think that his theory is when people get to know him and meet him they will like him more. but these voters they don't want to meet him. they're not interested in him because they think there have been enough bushes. they want somebody to change washington. yeah, he's he was a governor but they don't think he can change washington because he's part of the bush family. >> were you surprised by the comment by the whom who was with schoolteacher when she said politicians have no place in the classroom in talking about common core. >> common core two teachers in our focus group. and they all cared about common core and they all cared a lot about immigration. i don't know if they're worried about canadians coming over the border but it's a hot issue there still and they do not like
jeb bush's position. they said we respect that he doesn't want to change his views but we don't like his views. >> we want to goat hillary clinton and the transition question to that is don't they x each other out when you talk to these voters? isn't it the same issue? >> if jeb is running against hillary, everyone in that group is going to vote for jeb. >> yes, but ban, the new hampshire primary is before the general election. >> who is the favorite? >> the women in the group like karly fiorini a lot. >> who did the men like? >> scott walker. >> i'm not surprised. >> they liked her bio. they knew a lot about her. >> there are fewer people who are less qualified to be president than karly fiorina. >> they want antiestablishment candidate. i said should we have a career politician as a republican nominee or someone with a different background to a person they want someone with a different background. >> she lit it up at cpac. >> here's what a state democrat
said about hillary clinton. >> so let's think about some of the negative things about hillary clinton to the extent there are some. what do you like least about her? what's most troubling to you about her? >> the e-mail thing. >> transparency issues. >> i don't think it was handled very well. i think that plays into your ability to make decisions in the big office. >> i feel as though you need -- you've got to be aware of how things appear to the public. >> she could have gone through and deleted anything. who went through her e-mails? >> i think it would have been smarter to use a third party to sort through. >> seems just like a lack of judgment to do that. and to -- you be the one deciding who -- what e-mails you're going to delete or not. if anything she should have released everything and that third party can decide what's relevant. it's not her position to be relevant. that's what bothers me. >> i find this so interesting because not that we should look at twitter but i got killed on
twitter for asking these questions. >> you shouldn't have to look at twitter. >> push back and said nobody cares. role land it does seem like people have if same questions and that there are fair questions. >> even hillary supporters. >> there are some people who certainly have a questions but i'm just going to cut to the chase. i buy nothing from this focus group. absolutely nothing. >> why? >> here's why. we are not operating what we are comparing literally candidates right next to each other. people are basing it upon resumes and what -- when all of a sudden when you put them on the stage together and when they're having to debate policy have to make those particular points it changes the ball game. and so remember 2008 hillary was all about hillary. what was the game changer, the immigration question at the debate in iowa. put them on the stage together things are going to change. >> roland of course some day there will be one democrat and some republican. >> i'm not saying one democrat one republican. >> right now even the people who support hillary clinton, as mika said, you could still be for her
or not be totally opposed to her but still have legitimate questions. these democrats to a person favorable towards her some strongly so all said they sounded like they were investigative reporters. we want to know more. this speaks to her judgment. it speaks to her ability to manage. it speaks to her ability to be president. it's at this moment in time they said this was a huge concern of theirs and substantive and serious and intense concern. >> yes. what i'm saying is i think it's a huge concern right now because you don't have economic conversations. you don't have a real public policy discussion. what you have is a media driven narratives. >> it not media driven it's fact driven. >> thank you, roland. >> i think what's cool about these is you're getting out of the echo chamber which was going crazy on the hillary clinton e-mails and, by the way, tripping on themselves because some people couldn't find themselves to ask the right questions just for some reason because it was clinton. i venture to say and i've caused
some reporters to feel uncomfortable because i said if this was dick cheney how would you feel. there was a big difference. people feel this way. robert durst had more than 40,000 bucks stashed away when he was arrested. a lot of people thinking he's ready to run. i really admire my mother. despite what people said she bought me a sewing machine and she let me play with dolls and that was something that was kind of growing up culturally, it was quite unacceptable
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you say you're getting a thick skin? are you getting a thick skin? >> i'm trying. >> how is it working for you? >> it's hard. but i've worked with you and willie for a long time. >> yeah. willie is just terrible isn't he? >> eight years of this. >> you think he's so sweet. can you believe it's been eight years? and what has changed? >> it comes like a wave doesn't it? 4:00 a.m. every morning, it's just like, you know after eight years -- >> i'm not bitter about it. >> -- you feel like tom hanks.
do you think you're going to get over it and then boom it pushes you back. >> there are some disturbing before and after pictures of us in 2007 to today. >> can we not go to that? >> you know -- >> is it that bad? >> look at the old pictures and you're like, oh, you know you look at white house guys come in like this and -- >> exactly. >> that's how we look eight years later. >> two terms. >> yeah. eighths years. >> there nodeseeds to be a two-term limit for "morning joe." i will not seek. if i am nominated, i will not accept the nomination for a third term of "morning joe." getting up a at 4:00 a.m. >> i think you might want to think of a nice gesture. >> like what? >> like send me now querflower or something. really nice ones. i like presents. i like shoes. i'm not afraid to say sxwlit the for putting up with us? >> yeah, and a lot of things. all right. should we do some news? >> yes. >> we can work this out later. maybe in one of our special
meetings that we have after the show. do you want to do one? >> i don't want to do one of those meetings. it's where mika comes in playing nice on the set and throws things at us. >> i think we'll have one at 9:01 today. real estate heir and murder suspect robert durst is on a suicide watch this morning in louisiana. prison -- in the prison as more details emerge about the investigation into the death of his friend. nbc's stephanie gosk joins us live from new orleans this morning with the latest on this incredible case. stephanie? >> reporter: good morning, guys. these new details come out of a search warrant that was issued in houston. in it police say they believe robert durst is worth an estimated $100 million. in the months leading up to his arrest he was making these large withdrawals of cash $9,000 each time. so by the time police caught up with him at a hotel here in new orleans, they say he was getting ready to flee the country. days fwfr his arrest robert
durst used a fake id to check into this new orleans marriott. when police searched his hotel room they found more than $40,000 in cash a loaded revolver, and a rubber mask. those details are revealed in a search warrant executed three difficults later at durst's home in houston. in it police say they believe their search will provide evidence of preparations to flee from law enforcement to avoid apprehension and prosecution for the murder of sue an berman. berman served as a spokesperson for her millionaire friend when he was being questioned about the 1982 disappearance of his first wife kathy. 18 years later berman was gunned down in her los angeles home just as she was scheduled to talk to new york authorities about the newly reopened cold case. >> i can easily see writing that letter -- >> reporter: in the recent hbo documentary "the jinx" producers confronted durst with a letter he wrote to berman before her death. >> did you write the cadaver note? >> no. >> reporter: challenging him to explain the similarities between
it and an anonymous letter to police telling him where to find berman's body. >> same misspelling. >> can you tell me which one you doint write? >> no. >> reporter: but as early as 2003 handwriting analysts concluded it is probable that durst was the author of the cadaver letter. and in 2014 two other document analysts went even further. identifying durst as the author of the cadaver letter and envelope. but a legal expert says that it will be hard for prosecutors to definitively connect durst to berman's murder. >> absolutely. the only thing they can really do for certain is place him in the state of california. it's an awfully big state. >> reporter: when police and fbi raided durst's home they found two books about him, including a deadly secret which claims durst is a serial killer. >> the fact that he kept it with him struck a chord. >> reporter: durst denies all the charges but today remains behind bars. durst's lead defenseern to calls
handwriting an lal sis in his words, junk science. he points out investigators in the berman case once identified a totally different suspect use that same letter. meanwhile, we're talking to some sources close to the investigation who tell us that authorities in new york and l.a. are reaching out to other cities where durst may have lived or worked and they're asking investigators there to look at their missing persons list to see if they can find any connections to robert durst. back to you guys. >> nbc's stephanie gosk thank you very much. so willie you've actually see this hbo series. >> yeah. >> you said you got into it and you hear a documentary, you think it's going to be -- you say it pulled you in so much that you had to start like binge watching it late at night. >> so many people were talking about it last week. i said i'll check it out. i'll watch one. i got to see the next one. there are six of them. it's fascinating. you've got three murders. at the end of the last episode he begins talking to himself in
a bathroom on an open mike at which case all three cases could be blown up depending on whether or not it's admissible. but basically confesses to the murders, talking to himself in the mirror. he's a fascinating character. the way the three stories are woven together it's an incredible piece of filmmaking also. let's go to washington secret service director joseph clancy is set to get another grilling on capitol hill expected to face charp questions about surveil lns videos that capture the white house crash involving two agents rurping from a party at a d.c. bar. nbc news white house correspondent kristen welker has this story. good morning. >> reporter: willie good morning. director clancy is going to testify about his agency's budget later today but in his prepared remarks clancy is also expected to say that it is quote, unacceptable that he didn't learn about the latest allegation until five days after it happened. now, all of this is coming as some lawmakers are expressing serious concerns about the director's handling of this incident and the surveillance tape that recorded it.
as secret service director joseph clancy prepares to face lawmakers today, there is fresh outrage. congressman jason says the two surveillance tapes which he viewed this week do not clearly show what happened the night of march 4th when two secret service ats allegedly drove on to the white house grounds inebriated and interrupted an active bomb investigation. >> when we asked can we see a different angle, are there other cameras? the director said he's not sure they had these tapes, they may have been erased. erased? are you kidding me? >> reporter: he chairs the committee that's investigating the agency said it's unclear whether other cameras captured more angles. and noted that director clancy said, per protocol most tapes get erased after 72 hours. >> it's more than a week after the incident and the secret service director does even know if there's a tape of the incident. that's just so inexcusable. >> reporter: this comes after clancy faced a fierce grilling on capitol hill earlier this week when he acknowledged he
wasn't told about the incident for five days. and that he was informed by an anonymous source. >> i'm frustrated. i'm very frustrated. >> you can't run an agency like this, for god's sake, or any other agency unless you have discipline in the ranks. >> maybe some people need to be sent to the mojave desert. >> clancy a veteran of the secret service was brought in to reform the agency after a series of security breaches including when a man with a knife made it inside the white house. now clancy is facing his first big test. now, i've also spoken to other lawmakers who say they share his concerns and just this morning, willie, a secret service spokesman told me they quote, maintain video footage of camera systems at the white house for a period of 72 hours. in the event of an operational security indianapolis dent specific video footage is maintained for investigative and protective intelligence purposes. director clancy undoubtedly going to get a lot of tough
questions about all of this in just a few hours. willie? >> a lot of people surprised that tape isn't around somewhere. kristen, thanks so much. >> thanks. all right. coming up roughly 3,000 people from tunisia are believed to have joined isis. what does the militant group have such a strong appeal in the country? we'll look at the true face of drone warfare. the way it works and the way it does not. we'll be right back. it's a significant improvement over the infiniti we had... i've had a lot of hondas... we went around the country talking to people who made the switch to ford. the brand more people buy. and buy again. all-wheel drive is amazing... i felt so secure. i really enjoy the pep in its step... that's the ecoboost... the new image of ford now looks really refined. i drove the fusion... and i never went back. escape was just right. just announced, make the switch to ford and get $750 competitive owner cash on top of other offers
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it is going to be reviewed maybe by "the times" but being downloaded illegally by isis and spread across the globe. >> i feel like i want to bring a copyright suit against them. i don't know how it's going to shake out. >> i would just let it be. michael, help us understand what's going on in tunisia. a terror attack here. but tunisia has the most foreign fighters in isis. a place where the arab spring started. why? >> there's been a islamist current in tunisia. i would argue that one of the reasons they're probably exporting it now is it's a relatively stable country in the region. of all the arab spring nations tunisia is a success story. >> if you're a radical you're not going to get a lot of action in tunisia, as far as overthrow overthrowing the government. >> you will see spectacular attacks like yesterday. but by and large, if you want to join the vanguard jihadist organization on the planet,
two-hour plane ride over to turkey and into syria. 3,000 fighters it eclipses any other country. >> we've been hear that isis is on the run but tikrit they seem to be holding their own. what does that mean? >> the battle of tikrit i would describe as a continuation of the iran/iraq war. right? the revolutionary guard corp. of iran he is the grow und general of this campaign. these fighters this is 80% of the 25,000 fighters are shia militia groups. they are trying to retake saddam hussein's hometown. and that means that they're going to meet with not only stiff resistance by isis in the form of ied attack bombs planted in the ground, and even in houses but also they're probably going to be sunni locals who do not want to be taken over but what they see issen irany proxy army. >> amazing, 35 years after the iran/iraq war, how old does that make you feel? it's been 35 years. 35 years after the iran/iraq war we're back where we started. >> it's no coincidence.
if you look at the upper echelon of isis' organization, boast have something to do with the baath party. they mow how to fight. they were professional soldiers. >> let's bring in andrew right now. andrew obviously we keep hearing stories about how one terror leader or another terror leader is killed by the drone strikes. but they're not quite as exact, are they as many on capitol hill would want us to believe? >> absolutely not. the whole notion is they operate with, you know absolute precision and we always get the right guy and that really gets us somewhere. on two counts i question that. as i describe in my book, you know, time and again they found that when you knock off, when you get like some terrorist leader, he's always replaced. usually within a day or so. and the new one is almost always worse. i mean we've seen that with
isis. the successive leaders of isis they've all been monsters. but each one seems to be a more capable and efficient monster than the last. something wrong with the strategy. and the problem is also that you know, they're not -- we're sold on the idea they can see everything and therefore we know everything. but again, as i show in the book, they don't. you know when you're looking under most conditions what you don't see is you know absolutely close-ups of people. you see, you know dots on the screen or at least blurry blobs. so for all sorts of reasons this is a totally oversold strategy and has got us into a lot of trouble. >> andrew, the alternative as a lot of american people see it is to send american men and women on the ground and have them die and have them come home in coffins. so just from a public perception point of view it feel although it may not be true the drones are a cleaner way of fighting wars. don't you think they will only be enhanced moving forward? >> yes spending more and more
money on them and now we're building super drones that can allegedly, you know, fly by themselves and stealthy and we're getting toward the $400 million drone. so, yeah the whole idea of -- they're sold on the idea it makes you feel good. hey, we can -- got this robot weapon which will take care of things. and we can stay home. obviously, we hope we do stay home but we shouldn't if you look at the record, you know it hasn't really been a huge benefit that we are told it has. >> andrew is there any -- because a lot of people that are against the aggressive drone warfare, that we've undertaken especially since 2009 suggests that it's the, quote, collateral damage. very nice way of talking about dropping a bomb on a house where an alleged terrorist is and you're killing grandmothers and 5-year-old girls. is there any measure of the civilians that have been killed by american drones that you look
at as actually legitimate in numbers, in trying to assess what we may be doing in creating an entirely new generation of terrorists? >> it's very tough because, you know, huge number of people roughly 16 or 1700 people that we've killed we don't even know who they are. we make so many strikes based on people's behavior the way they -- the way they -- whether they're in a truck, carrying a gun or not, sometimes you can't tell a difference between a gun and a shovel on the video screen. so there's a huge blurry area. we conservative estimates put it at around 700 in pakistan i think. less than that 200 in yemen. but certainly a large number. and certainly has a huge impact on the population. you know it really has an effect that way. >> i think the interesting thing, or the question i would have is just you know how can you measure collateral damage with drones as opposed to
collateral damage with snipers or boots on the ground. it happens in every situation. >> i think what's offensive to a lot of people is the fact that this is sold as clean warfare when it's actually just the opposite. what some people had a horrible moral dilemma about special ops going in seizing a terrorist, take that terrorist out, taking him to a black site, waterboarding them getting information that way was a great moral dilemma but you went in and you got one person. now the answer is the target's there, oh, there are four other guys there and they're between the ages -- if you were between the ages of 18 and 30 you were assumed now under our u.s. policy to be a terrorist or if you were in the vicinity of a known terrorist, i don't think that's a clean way to conduct warfare. it makes people feel good here that it's like a video game. it's not like a video game. >> it may well have been over sold but when you have a chance too take out the guy responsible for the killing of all those
people in the kenya mall do you do that or not do that? >> i would rather do that by sending people in like we did than kill everybody around him. i think it's a cleaner way to do it. really quickly, we got to go. michael, really quickly. iran? >> yes. >> long term more of a help or was netanyahu right, the enemy of our enemies is our enemy? >> al qaeda in iraq isis' predecessor, main goal was to sunni, shia sectarian showdown in iraq. >> his dream. >> yes. >> andrew thank you so much. i can't wait to read your book. it sounds fascinating. an important -- >> michael, thank you as well. could treating cancer mika be specific to a person as tailoring a suit? >> could it? we'll explain, next on "morning joe." so i got this listing. 3 bedroom, 3 bath. i have a client that lives out of state. just knew it was for her. so i tried to get her on video chat. i'm on verizon. i... i'm not. so it's not a problem. my video chat isn't working so i try to send photos but even that doesn't work.
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welcome back to "morning joe." joining us now, deputy managing editor at "time" magazine jones, to reveal the cover story "closing the cancer gap." always good to see you. if you look on the cover it says both of these women have brain tumors. one is beating the odds. how is she doing it? >> it's really a story about precision medicine which is the talk of cancer research right now. you might remember in the state of the union obama announced a federal initiative to start funding precision medicine. the treatment of cancer the standard protocol of care now is blunt force. it's surgery, chemo, radiation, you know kill all tumors. >> as doctors say, you poison the entire person poison the cancer. >> what precision medicine is about is genomic sequencing in the tumor in hope the doctors will learn the mutation and be able to treat it with a tailored
medication for the individual. and which doctors are finding is that often, you know in this case for example, a brain tumor might have more in common with melanoma than with another brain tumor and having that information enables them to treat patients in clinical trials and what have you in different ways. >> we're really making remarkable gains, aren't we on cancer? university of pennsylvania mutating aid cells and checking them in lieu keepia patients. doctors tells we're just about to turn the corner where there are going to be a lot of specific treatments for cancer and it's going to wipe out a lot of disease. >> it really seems that way. i mean what has to happen first though is all of the data has to be collected. right now 1.6 million people are diagnosed with cancer every year but only less than 5% of tumors are sequenced. so doctors are very eager to start make that progress more
affordable so that they can start figuring out, okay, this is going to work for my patient. and to do that think need to gather that data and be able to share it. >> the magazine has a a couple of there pretty incredible pieces. israeli election, netanyahu won a tragic election. >> i'm surprised that was the article that you picked out in "time" magazine. >> i'm just going to read from it. i don't think you're going to want to comment and move to scott walker. he says netanyahu won buzz he ran as a bigot. >> okay. >> this is a sad reality. great many jews have come to regard arabs as the rest of the world traditionally regarded jus. they have a cause. they have wars and brutal terrorist attacks. for the sake of his own future netanyahu has made dreadful jewish history. he is a man who made antiarab bigotry an over factor in israel life. and then joe klein. and then scott walker claiming to win by haley sweetland edwards. >> what did you learn about scott walker? >> one thing i learned about scott walker, a darling of the
right at the moment. it said his jobs record great reputation now as union buster. but when he took office in 2010 he promised a quarter of a million jobs in wisconsin and he's come about 40% short of that goal. so that's something to look for. >> and here's -- i love the picture. it looks almost like it's out of the cold war. like soviets and americans going to negotiate. but this is actually about a diplomacy of distrust iran in america, they haven't trusted each other since 1979. and the question that you all ask is okay can they deal with it? >> right. can they mistrust each other mutually enough to make a deal? >> oh, my god. >> that's the idea. >> house of cards. thank you so much. we'll be reading the new issue of "time" magazine. still ahead, how to avoid rookie mistakes in your march madness bracket. well, just follow me okay? and why you can lose by picking kentucky? >> come on. >> even if they win it all? huh? we'll be right back. you total your brand new car. nobody's
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tip-off. not that i'm counting. a lot of people furiously picking brackets. you made a fascinating point. >> a lot of this information comes from my friend a pro sports whiz. a lot of good math information there. so the most important thing, really, is the size of your pool. you're in a pool about 20 people. where you want to pick kentucky because the favorites win 71% of the games going back 12 years. so don't pick a lot of underdogs. you stick with kentucky. you mentioned you got arizona and duke. a good lineup. but if you're in a pool with 400 people are you definitely going to lose no matter what. so don't pick kentucky. even if you pick kentucky some random person who doesn't know anything is going to get those first-round games correct, you're not getting just by random chance. go way from kentucky. you won't win with them anyway s. there a seed? always a 12 seed that wins in the first round. should i pick one or two of those in every year? >> i always thought the 12 seed was the way to go.
the 5 seeds still win the majority of the games. still win 55% of the games. people think you want to pick the 12 seeds. last couple of years had a good run. back 10, 15 years, it's not actually true. pick one or two, not three or four. >> one of those matchups? 6-11? >> this year people say this is the "chalkiest year of them all." the better seeds are almost always going to win. look at predictions from the data-driven folks, the quantitative guy only one or two double-digit seeds that even have a chance. all is the better seeds, this particular year, that are going to be better. >> the butler years, makes the tourney so much more exciting, a club like that. >> vcu. one of those. >> from the first four and went to the final four. the interesting fact though pshgs looking at $1 billion to $2 billion per hour in lost productivity in the u.s. from march madness alone. >> is that true? they say that every year.
>> i'm sure you've got that divided between women and men, and this saul about men. right? >> okay. just making sure. i don't want to be lumped in this. i pick it every year and i win, and i don't waste time. >> what are the -- >> when did you win? last win? >> last year. didn't i, willie? ask bill karins. >> wow. >> i don't remember who i picked. i went like this. >> profit $100 million just on the tournament, because there there are -- >> ridiculous. >> -- $12 billion bet globally. $9 billion in the u.s. $100 million for them is good gishen a company like gm is spending $80 million in commercials alone. casinos do better than any of the companies advertised. >> how does a pro sports gambler pick the games? real money on the line? >> avoid kentucky. don't pick a bubble stock everyone else is into. look for value. villanova shoots a high percentage of threes -- >> joe, what's your pick?
your pick? final four? >> blue. >> kentucky. he's not making any money. he's not listening. >> go big blue! >> you have an sec bias. government to stay away. >> both of my parents went to the university of kentucky struggled through the joe p. hall era. >> go with cal. >> one year but it's a fun one year. >> see how much time we just wasted? thank you, joe. you're my example. joe scarborough. thank you very much. eric thank you. a lot of lost productivity, right here at the table. coming up at the top of the hour we get to the headlines of the day. tunisia is coming to grips with the deadliest attack on civilians there in more than decade. how the president there is responding. plus, aaron schock has not spoken out since announcement stepping down from congress. but his father is. and the protesting the
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it's 8:00 a.m. on the east coast and 5:00 a.m. on the west coast. all right. >> i remember last year willie said at the end of february, he said ah. boy, it's been cold. thank god march is coming and we both looked at each other and said, oh wait. it gets worst. >> it's going to be april. mike barnicle is here. mark halperin is here. >> as a southerner, i can handle
the horrible weather in december. i can handle the terrible weather in january. i can handle it in february but i'll tell you what. you get to march, you get to st. patrick's day, and you still have to worry about snow? at that point -- the gig's up. >> yeah. >> it's up. >> oh joe. go to chicago. >> really. >> i love chicago. in july. >> please. >> i had a wool coat on in the first week in june. >> that's unbelievable. >> and mark banach'll isrnicle, thinking none of us have any reason to complain. a boston man. and a shocking mass demur tunisia's capital. moments ago the country's prime minister admitted one of the gunman was being tracked by authorities. at least 19 people are dead after the attack. more than 40 other, injured. two gunmen also killed and up to three other suspects still being sought. the horror began around noon as
tourists were boarding buses. one witness says the gunmen were shooting at anything that moved. the carnage did not end there as the attackers ran into the museum taking hostages. dozens of people inside were evacuated before police and security forces traded fire with the gunmen. the museum is less than three miles from the center of the city and the attack triggered a lockdown at the parliament building nearby. hours after, the deadliest attack on civilians in tunisia in 13 years, its president said his nation was in a war with terror. he vowed the country would respond without mercy to terrorists "until they are terminated." isis-linked twitter accounts prayersed the gunmen behind the attack. more than 3,000 people joined the islamic state, more than any other country. meanwhile, thousands of tunisian
tunisians chanted "free tunisia" to remember the victims. the arab spring began in 2011 when its dictator was overthrown but the country faced economic troubles since then. also sweden. >> yeah. there's also sweden. quickly, though we look back to the arab spring and remember how excited so many people were the dictators were going to be overthrown. this began in tunisia. there was just a man with a cart that was brutalized by the government, set himself on fire. and suddenly you're seeing one tyrant after another fall and we think great things are coming. in egypt. free elections lead to the muslim brotherhood. that leads to disastrous presidency of morserissey going back to rule. free election, elect tamas, and it's happening across the middle east, and unfortunately this is something that u.s. foreign policymakers are having to
grapple with and will for some time that in some instances, more freedom in the middle east has not led to more stability for its people. >> there certainly were warning of setbacks when it began. this is the developing news i was pointing to out of europe. several people were shot at a restaurant in sweden's second largest city. police confirmed two victims have died but say the death toll is expected to rise. witnesses say two men walked into the crowded restaurant and opened fire. at this hour authorities say no evidence it's related to terrorism saying gang violence is common committee area and gang members were inside the restaurant. police are currently searching for possible suspects. >> well we haven't heard from representative aaron schock following his resignation announcement but his dad came out and talked about his son, obviously very proud of. >> i know. >> and i certainly felt the father's pain. >> ah. i do. >> and standing by his son in way that was, i think, very good
for his son. >> dr. richard schock defended his son acknowledging problems surrounding the republicans expense reporting. >> i know it's you know a law. so, yeah he's broke the law. if they're going to convict him on paperwork, they're going to convict him. and that's their privilege. if it's the law, and he broke the law, and they want to convict him on that fine. but he has done a lot of good in his life. >> aaron is a little different. you know. he wears stylish clothing, and yet he's not gay. so you know everybody's throwing up their arms. they can't figure out aaron. so he must be crooked.
you know so attack him. >> schock's resignation will end in a house ethics investigation. according to a spokesperson all mile of disbursements and repayments paid back. dr. schock has hope for his son. >> ten years from now whatever he's doing, he'll be successful at, i'll promise you that. two years from now he'll be successful. because -- if he's not in jail. >> hmm. >> a criminal investigation is still possible. schock plans to resign on march 31st. >> all right. so it might be hard for aaron schock to realize right now no matter how bad things seem to be this morning that fitzgerald was wrong. there are second acts in american life. and you can look at bill clinton, a guy that was, you know accused of perjuring
himself in a grand jury. >> uh-huh. >> who lied in the deposition while president of the united states. he got disbarred by the united states supreme court if i'm not mistaken. disbarred in arkansas. and yet clinton is one of the most admired americans in poll after poll what he's done with cgi is incredible. a couple of nights ago i was sitting next to mark sanford a guy that everybody, friends with sanford took the phone calls from him, five six years ago, he was despondent the butt of every joke in america, and now he's -- he's back and he's making a difference and this happens to republicans. this happens to democrats. and you know what? they fight their way back and that's something that aaron schock needs to know this morning. mike, the older you get, the more you realize when somebody's in the middle of something like this you know i mean you can even look at eliot spitzer who is a guy that was just abused by the new york press.
but he came close to winning his last election and his career still might not be over. >> well eliot spitzer and hundreds thousands of other people from coast to coast. what you realize is forgiveness is a stream that runs very wide in the american spirit. as long as you, you know you focus on what you've done. admit to what you've done. whatever it is. but americans are very forgiving. >> yeah. mark halperin? >> he's a talented guy who made mistakes and generally if you're talented and stay at it you'll do fine. >> yeah. willie? another story. more trouble on a college campus here in the united states. an investigation is underway this morning into the apparent bloody arrest of a university of virginia student outside a bar. cell phone video shows the scene early wednesday morning when 20-year-old martese johnson was being arrested. the friend who shot the video says johnson was denied entry to the bar and questioned by agents from the virginia alcohol beverage control. according to the friend johnson
asked one of them to let go of his arm and tried pull ago way. he was then wrestled to the ground. the friend tells the associated press, "hen wasn't being aggressive as all. while the agents who made the arrest said johnson was very agitated and belligerent." those two agent restricted to administrateive duties while they investigate. a still photo of johnson's bloody face quickly went viral on social media and prompted a rally on campus last night with about 1,000 students voicing their support and demanding justice. at one point, johnson himself addressed the crowd. >> we're all part of one community. [ cheers and applause ] and we deserve to respect each other especially in times like this. thank you. >> now virginia governor terry mcauliffe is asking the state police to conduct an investigation into the use of force during the arrest. abc says it will assist the investigation. johnson has been charged with two misdemeanors obstruction of justice without force and public
swearing or intoxication. >> roland martin. weigh in. >> well, here's what i'm trying to understand. so he's denied entry and there's need for two police officers to go over and begin to question him? see, i always go back to what took place, what led to him even being stopped and questioned? simply being denied. and all of a sudden you end up bloodied because you couldn't get into a bar? >> yeah. >> again, this is where we have to question police actions and motive. what causes you to cross that threshold and get to that point? that, to me is what i need to understand. >> yeah. that's what obviously, willie we'll probably find out the next day or two exactly what happened. one thing is for sure. that police are going to be looked at in this new era, this post-ferguson era, no matter what happens, they're going to be looked at and especially when it involves a black, young black male, and it's for good
reason. >> yeah. and we don't want to speculate. we don't know what happened before, during or after. we saw some of the cell phone video, there, but martese is 20 years old. perhaps trying to get into a bar underage. something like that. obviously doesn't mean show have been treated that way. >> we don't know what happened before. >> right. >> but what we do know is and what police everywhere should know is that everyone has a cell phone. and whatever happens is going to be on video. >> yeah. >> and any body cameras. turn to presidential politics. >> and on video -- >> yes, it was. >> we're going to turn to presidential politics now. a new poll suggests hillary clinton's standing -- >> i bet -- i bet it's lower than it's ever been because this scandal that everybody's talking about, is she actually behind, is joe biden ahead now by three or four or five -- >> well her standings -- >> do and over/under. >> standings changed, news about her use of private e-mail
serving as secretary of state. >> what are we going to change? >> taen changed. the poll shows clinton leading, vice president joe biden, among democrats. >> what? this is february's poll. >> by 47 percentage points. the same amount she led by in the february poll. >> oh, this isn't february's. >> nearly seven in ten democrats believe clinton is their best chance at winning the white house. >> democrats have nobody going for them. so i bet, though, that jeb bush bush -- because jeb's had a great run. right? willie what do you think? two points ten points? it's neck and neck. right? it's got to be neck and neck. one of those horse races where, hey, you take the picture. >> she fared well in potential mampups with republicans as well. >> see, i told you that jeb bush was going to have some problems. right? didn't i say? what did i say? >> that thing you did. >> yeah. i said that. >> oh sigh bet though scott walker, sort of conservative -- >> again, wisconsin governor scott walker -- >> doing a lot better. >> leads by the same amount.
senator rand paul comes closest with 43% saying they'd be more likely to back him. >> never mind. >> okay. >> ah mark halperin this is -- what somebody said it last week. whatever doesn't kill the clintons makes them stronger. they're like redwoods. political redwoods, another layer has been added. petrified forest, more like it. another layer of rocks around those trees. >> she's got a lot of strength. she's -- [ laughter ] >> democrat nominee at a time when democrats won the popular vote in five of the last six elections. well known, got a lot of support, but i was up in new hampshire doing focus group and i have to say, the spinners carville saying no one cares about this. we did a democratic focus group. people supported her, even people who really support her knew a ton about the e-mail controversy, and they raised it
repeatedly as the thing they were concerned about. still ahead on "morning joe" a shocking accident in new york city. why officials say one woman is dead after simply walking on the sidewalk. >> oh my gosh. >> valerie jarrett takes us on a rare tour of her white house office. we'll talk about the inspiration behind knowing your value, believe it or not, plus -- >> i'm sorry. is there a theme in her office? like an american's theme or -- >> no. pretty basic and simple. she's kind of busy. plus got a lot of ground to cove as south dakota's lone member of the u.s. house. congresswoman kristi noem joins the conversation. but first -- sicko. i don't like it. >> get it over. >> sock bill karins. >> give us the weather. >> this is the last winter forecast that we're going to give you. so snowfall is on the way. going to be snowing this time tomorrow morning, d.c., philadelphia baltimore, new york city. unreal. just rain this morning, though.
knoxville to atlanta, over through the carolinas you're getting wet today. this is the region tomorrow if you have travel problems the going to be in the morning hours. baltimore into d.c., school delays possible especially areas outside the cities. by the time we get to 1:00 p.m. bluish coloring here is the snow. should be snowing pretty good philadelphia to new york going throughout the afternoon. heaviest bands over long island southern connecticut by five p.m. significant airport delays with moderate snow and low visibility. then the storm exits quickly. totally bun die midnight. how much snow? unfortunately, this, remember, is on the grass and on the cars. takes about two, three inches off this for the roads. roads most likely slush pip the only troublesome roads the ones in northern jersey poconos and anywhere down there outside of the harrisburg area in pennsylvania. again, four to five inches of snow is possible in some of these areas. just the winter that will never end. mainly these areas, just melted all the snow and now we have to stare at it all over again.
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on his first day. >> exactly. >> why doesn't he do it tomorrow? >> he should have. >> do it tomorrow. >> during a speech dpleechbdin cleveland the president explained what went wrong i. would have closed guantanamo on the first day. [ applause ] the -- i didn't because at that time as you will recall we had a bipartisan agreement it should be closed. the republican -- my republican opponent had also said it should have been closed but the politics of it got tough and people got scared by the rhetoric around it. and once that set in, then the path to have least resistance was leave it open, even though it's not who we are as a country, and is used by terrorists around the world to help recruit jihadists. so instead we've had to just chip away at it year after year after year.
>> as of january of this year 122 prisoners still detained at guantanamo bay. what do you think? >> i think he made the promise. we said he couldn't keep the promise. it's just so complicated. >> yes it is. >> i told mika a year ahead, he's nerve are going to be able to do this. and so for him to say six years later, i should have done it the first day, good. do it tomorrow. you're president. it's so -- >> not going to happen. >> there's so many things that he said -- >> so many things that went wrong when ist was set up in the first place. >> said dick cheney is evil i'm going to be good. no, it's not that way. this wasn't a comic book. he wasn't captain america, couldn't just put on the helmet, mask and a, go in and save the world. >> his former secretary of state likes to say, could have should have, would have. >> and john boehner says if apples and nuts -- all pigs are flying i'ding out golfing. a terrible story from the
"new york times." a 37-year-old woman died after being struck by plywood that blew off a construction site in new york city's greenwich village. the victim was walking on the sidewalk along west 12th street when she was slammed against a wall. witnesses said there were strong wind gusts in the area at the time of the incident. it was windy here yesterday. the city's building's department issued a full stop work order for the site. in addition to issuing violations to the contractors. so sad. >> terrible. the "wall street journal," target is the latest retailer raising its workers' hourly wage. starting next month target workers will be paid at least $9 an hour. the move foleylows similar movements by rivals walmart and t.j. maxx. em floiploys 300,000 people in the united states. >> it's happening. what we'll sapy in the conversation later. ceos, increasing minimum wages and making schedules more workable for working families. >> the great news is the
market's driving this and you have walmart being driven to do this, because the market is tightening up. now you have t.j. maxx following. you have target following. not just great news for people inside this store. it indicates something bigger is hatching in america, and let's hope willie -- >> that too. >> -- finally wage stagnation goes way. a lot of working class and middle-class people that need to get raises. >> these are big companies taking the lead. see if others follow now. from necn ben & jerry's known for shaking up the ice cream industry. the latest venture, kicking old-fashioned ice cream trucks to the curb. taking its products across the country this summer in a luxury $80,000 tesla that will double as an ice cream serving location. >> i love vermont. >> also wants the sedan to spark a conversation about climate change. >> nice. >> we want to use the pow around voice of the company to take on bigger issues and we feel lucky to be able to do it. >> ben & jer ip says if you
tweet them about your work on climate change, the tesla could make a stop in your city. mark halperin raises an important question. where does the ice cream go? >> in the back seat? >> the trunk? >> not at creepy as an ice cream truck should be. you know? with the guy leaning over the thing. >> what's going on in there? i wonder. i was invited into one of those. >> were you invited into an ice cream truck in the south of france? >> not in the south -- >> i didn't know they had ice cream trucks in the south of france. >> no, no. >> it's sorbet. later. a sorbet truck. >> willie the shag carpet is deep in mika brzezinski's background. >> what is wrong with you? >> you need one of those rakes to dig up all the dirt. >> do you remember what the psychologist wrote you. just stop. >> what is she talking about? >> a psychologist wrote joe a letter, a doctor. >> a doctor wrote me a letter and said that -- >> it's on her office door. >> i'm a trained psychiatrist and obviously you like to joke about mika's background in the south of france.
so obviously it upsets her and you should be more sensitive to her. >> a long letter and actual psychologisting. >> she explained what i was doing might bring up bad memories. i need to write her back and see if mika wouldn't bring it up every sorry day. >> i don'tjust don't mention beam tosh her. nintendo announced another reason why your smartphone will distract you. several of the company's biggest games designed for play on songs including "donkey kong and others. >> nintendo announced it finally has plans to develop games for smartphones which caused their stock to go up 24% in one day. or as nintendo put it -- [ super mario theme song ] >> that was great, willie.
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29 past the hour. it's time for the women's roundtable. look at this. take the wide. >> yeah. >> yep. take the wide. girlfriends, let's talk. okay? >> your shoes, one word used to describe them. adorable. >> what do you think about mine? >> cute. >> you're a little too good at this. >> all right. -- we do have -- >> hold on. hold on. get my shoes. if you're going to do mika's shoes. hold on. >> oh, my god. i don't want to see your shoes. they stink. >> all right. >> no socks. >> joe, do those come in blue? >> yes, they do. come in blue. >> i don't know what's going on here. i have things to do here. can you all be quiet? we showed a cnn poll earlier in the hour that suggested a controversy surrounding the server of hillary clinton is not affecting her run for president but a new poll from reuters
showing the e-mail controversy could actually damage her chances for 2016. it found support among democrats had dropped 15% from the middle of last month as few as 45% now say they would back clinton if she ran for president and more than 40% ofss polled believe the e-mail issue hurt her chances in 2016. including a third of democrats and 44% of independents. mark halperin mirroring in some ways the conversations you had in new hampshire? >> it did. look, this did not make her drop out of the race not the biggest controversy ever but certainly the case that democrats are paying attention. it's gotten a lot of news coverage and again the democrats, talked to in new hampshire, focused on the details. they have objections to what she did on the merits not the politics. >> mark, one person. did the names elizabeth warren. >> yeah. >> or martin o'malley we had on last week and i was really
impressed by. did those names cross their lips? >> one person who knew who martin o'malley was. not a lot of bernie sanders, joe biden. not a lot of enthusiasm for other democrats. this is not a problem for he within the democratic nomination fight in the short term. >> the thing is what mark's talking about what we're seeing in this poll we all know how this game's played. a lot of people in the media, a lot of people in the big newspapers are going to want a contest. so nobody knew who howard dean was at this point. if martin o'malley goes out, performs well on the sunday show performed well on "morning joe" already, he does a couple things that are right they're going to want that matchup. even if it's muhammad ali versus princeton's intramural boxing champ who boxes like this. >> and how everyone has covered this -- >> you like that? >> yeah. i like it a lot. i will say the concept of hillary clinton being the first woman president excites me. you can't under -- i like it a lot. >> you can't underestimate.
>> is it hillary or the first woman president? somebody else, would you be just as happy? >> the concept of hillary is attractive to me in many ways. this emall controversy has legitimate questions and the way it's been covered, interesting. you see people going to different corners. i think you can be concerned about both. you can want her to be the first woman president, maybe even supportive of the concept and think this problem stinks. >> as far as hillary goes go back to the word resilience. yes, self-inflicted wounds, but look how the media abused her in 2008. it is i am a republican. i've seen republicans treated badly. she was treated worse in the press by 2008 and more unfairly entire states were called racist by this network if they voted for hillary clinton. she was abused. i think there are a lot of people that can say, okay. you know what? it's her time. >> amen. >> cnbc's brian sullivan is here with business before the bell and it's exciting. >> it is. huge u-turn by the federal reserve yesterday.
>> what happened? >> yeah! >> oh my gosh. >> walked bab eded back the economy. stocks soared. >> what happens to patience? >> taken out. >> ah. >> however the federal reserve walked it back all of a sudden like, whoa maybe the economy is not as strong as we thought. the job market needs to improve a little. bottom line for viewers and listener mortgage rates probably low for a while. auto lending rates, low for a while. the federal reserve completely -- did a u-turn yesterday. shocked everybody kind of. doing my show, markets went literally -- >> i heard interest rates are going occupy at some point? >> we thought that. the federal reserve gauss dovish, we call it and who else is excited? >> kristi noem. >> a rising star. >> from capitol hill. >> first brian sullivan leather hightops. no. >> you have leather -- good god, get it down boy. >> republican congresswoman kristi noem of south dakota. this week republicans rolled out a new budget aiming to balance the budget in ten years. but lawmakers are bearish, a lot of them including some
republicans like ken buck who told the "new york times," i don't know anyone who believes we're going to balance the budget in ten years. it's all hooey. is it hooey? >> a budget is a resolution that puts forward priorities. things we want to accomplish. we come back fill in the gaps with law through appropriations bills but certainly have to put what we believe in our budget because that's the vision we want to cast for where this country should go. we have to address our fiscal situation and pay down our debt. >> congresswoman, i know a lot of republicans in the base known well for 20 years. they say, enough talk. just balance the damn budget. you know well it's kind of applicanted. they're like, no. balance the budget. isn't this important senate to send that republicans do stand for something when it comes to fiscal restraint? after he messed everything up in the early part of last decade? >> well that's what a lot of americans are telling us. it's that we know what you're opposed to. what's your vision? what do you believe in and what
do you want to do? that's what this budget does. reforms programs continuing to go up prioritizes national security funding. things the republicansvalues -- have always stood for and where republicans want to go. >> i want to ask about your lunch bill which is whole grain rich. interesting. good placement. >> given your state. >> tell us about it. >> it's good. >> well we've had a lot of new regulations come out of the federal government tellings how to feed our kids as schools and extremely restrictive. restricted calories also meat and proteins and whole grains have been required. sodium levels required to where we can't even possibly put milk or cheese on the menu anymore. my bill gives local school districts and families the opportunity to have some flex frablt those guidelines. it's a common sense bill and one i hope we can get put into place so we can bring some common sense back to our school lunch
programs. >> congresswoman kristi noem thank you so much. it's great to you have on. come on the set in new york sometime. >> thank you. >> come on the set when you come to new york and congratulations. i will say it -- congratulations on the budget. that's at least for me very exciting. >> well we'll pass it next week. haven't passed it yet but certainly will. it's getting a lot of good encouragement and it's nice to be able to talk about being for something and where we want to go. >> exactly. there you go. kristi, thank you. up next how 15 women who used to be homeless saved their lives simply by sharing they're stories. that powerful new movie, when we come back.
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homeless, sleeping behind the washers and dryers in apartment and utility rooms. >> here is where my story meetsdsmeets your story and it becomes our story. >> a scene from the new documentary by filmmaker nicole boxer called "how i got over" which asks whether art has the power to change people's lives and nicole joins us now with the answer to that. also with us the president of the rockefeller foundation and author of the book "the resilience dividend" judith rodent. good to you have with us. how's the book? >> doing well, thank you. >> i believe t.it. >> and nicole this looks amazing. how did you come up with the concept? >> luckily i'm clued in with washington, d.c. >> just a bit. >> and heard about a theater company teaching homeless women acting. it was very a little small program, and the theater director decided she wanted to sort of take it to a broader audience. so she got involved with the kennedy center and they crafted this play. brought a playwright in to
listen to the ladies' life stories and staged it at the kennedy center after 14 weeks. >> unbelievable. >> and that made a big difference? >> it made a huge difference in the lives of these particular women. they really many of them have extremely low self-esteem from living lives of trauma and being out on the street and being able to tell their stories and have an audience applaud and hear that and validate that was life-affirming. >> how do you get 15 formerly homeless with lessless women with all the problems attributed to being homeless and that come with it on stage telling that story? how does that transition happen a. miracle. it really was a miracle. so moving but so stressful trying to get there. you can imagine. it was like can they to this? many of these women had been using crack for years. let's just say their memories maybe not so great. but there are a lot of love and encouragement and practice and by the way, it was sort of like this is going to be an art piece. let's just see what happens. >> so i see a link here, because
the resilience dividend focuses how to bounce back from a crisis. >> exactly. >> in the biggest way ever. but does it apply? the concept? >> absolutely. because resilience is really about the capacity to thrive to adapt and to grow. when you face a crisis rather than letting it knock you down and then keep you down. and it's equally true whether it's the lives of women who are at the bottom of really their experiences and people say they can't get back and they're using this crisis and the kind of support that nicole's team gave them and the other supports they got to change to grow and adapt and thrive. >> now these women truly are leaders in their community. i mean they've kind of stuck together as a little posse, and they go around and they sing at churches and in a variety of places and they're just rock stars. i mean they really have pulled it out and are leading the way and we were talking earlier. these women are also in drug recovery and many have stayed
clean, and i think more arts would be a good thing. >> and an application of this also, not just a feel-good story for these 15 women. this also is an argument for the importance of art in public school, in private schools, especially in areas where there's not a lot of exposure to art. what it can do for children's lives what it can open up. >> all forms of education are really critical and we seem to be excluding the arts and sometimes over emphasizing the sciences now, and we believe that s.t.e.m. education is absolutely essential, but not at the expense of the arts where leaders to create well-educated people, we need both sides of the brain to be stimulated. >> and before they fall. i know. art is like the way to get to kids, at all ages. >> and you speak from personal experience. don't you? >> i do. "how i got over" available on video on demand now. nicole boxer, congratulations. >> thank you. >> and judith rodin, thank you
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finally starting to go up. now, this progress is no accident. first and foremost it's the direct result of you. the drive and determination of the american people. but i'm going to take a little credit. it's also the result -- [ applause ] -- it's also the result of decisions made by my administration in partnership from, with some of these members of congress who are here to prevent a second depression. >> that was president obama yesterday taking credit for the positive signs in the economy, and i recently sat down with senior advisor valerie jarrett, who said that just because it's the fourth quarter of their administration administration, it does not mean they can't do more for people trying to make ends meet. one of the things that's really been important to you in your time here at the white house is getting companies to understand the importance of dealing with a
minimum wage issue, and we saw something really incredible happening with walmart. >> one of the real issues for working families is making sure that they have a schedule that allows them to meet their demands outside of work. so what walmart did in addition to agreeing to raise their minimum wage is that they're giving employee as chance for a fixed schedule or a flexible schedule depending what the employees want. we're hoping walmart taking a leadership role in this sets a precedent that will be followed and we've seen other company, t.j. maxx following suit. and not only that, but also seeing both cities and states. we've had now 17 states raise their minimum wage 26 cities raise their minimum wage. >> i actually think it's incredible what you've been able to do in terms of getting companies to step up on this and it will pay them back. >> all evidence is showing, study after study, mika is saying companies that raise their minimum wage provide
child care make sure women are earning the same amount of men are able to attract the best talent and retain that talent and that translates into profitability. >> last summer valerie jared brought it to washington encouraging executives and employees alike to innovate and bring the workplace into the 21st century. >> this spring we're going to take our conversation back on the road. working in conjunction with the labor department, to focus on what are the best practices, what progress have we made since june? >> we remembered a moment in her office when valerie inspired me to write "knowing your value" five years ago. >> i told you i was too busy and that i just couldn't write another book. and then i told what you it was about and you said -- >> write the book. >> i know. >> now we're both getting ready to hit the road with a similar message. >> you and i are going to go on the road. >> we're going on the road. >> as well and have a conversation. face it, the good ideas aren't necessarily coming from washington. they're going it come from
people who we're talking to around country. a small business we brought to the white house right after the working family summit, had a great idea of providing women owned business provides all her many employees with $3,000 a year that they have to use on vacation. >> i love it. >> isn't that interesting? you can't use it -- to pay down your student loans. can't use it for -- >> not allowed to be practical. >> you can't be practical. the reason she said it not only do her employees love it but their families love it. now, keep the employee happy but the families want them to continue to work there as well. what other new ideas are bubbling you right now is what we want to hear this spring when we head back out again. >> as we reported the news this morning, target is the largest retailer raising its workers' hourly wage starting next month. target workers will be paid at least $9 an hour. latest ones. >> good news. not just for target workers but you look at target t.j. maxx walmart did it. >> and the sweater i got in the interview.
>> the labor market is tightening up. these big companies have to compete, want to keep their best employees. when that happens it has an affect across the economy. everybody's wages start to go up. >> i like it. >> thank goodness the republicans held the line on spending and allowed freedom. >> thank you valerie, for working with these companies. >> and the freedom to once again move about. go to msnbc.com/knowyourvalue to get tickets for the events. first one in philly is coming up. while there take part in the grow your bonus competition. men are good at it. joe, why do you have value? oh my god. i don't have enough time. up next what, if anything, did we learn today? before larry instantly transferred money from his bank of america savings account to his merrill edge retirement account. before he opened his first hot chocolate stand calling winter an "underserved season". and before he quit his friend's leaf-raking business for "not offering a 401k."
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ferrell. ♪ mama i'm sure to handle now ♪ >> what's -- what's with the costume? >> i'm the new face of little debbie snack cakes. i mean let's be honest jim, i'm not the hollywood hunk i once was. >> little debbie? very sensitive. is there -- anything i can do to make you stop crying? >> to sing the little debbie jingle? ♪ little debbie ♪ snack cakes ♪ no one has to know ♪ shhhh! >> oh, my god. >> oh my god. hilarious. >> talk about what we learned today. will ferrell. what did you learn? >> a really cool woman, professor at georgetown been there two years, professor erica seman. the students just voted for her, professor of the year. only been there two years. just happened.
congratulations. i want to have her on. brian sullivan told me. >> fantastic. great? >> i hope tim barnicle is taking her course. >> yeah. religious studies. >> will ferrell, one of the funniest in america, and bearing presents. what you got? >> a hat for mika. coach saban hat for mika and for your son joe. >> all right. joey will love it. >> roll tide. >> and what you learned from mike barnicle is we love free stuff. >> free stuff. yeah. >> roll tide. >> and the busiest guy in new york, i learned. >> how's the tide going to be this year? >> oh very good. number one, baby. >> do you think coach saban will meet us soon? >> jokin'. >> probably will. if it's way too early, it's "morning joe," but stick around right know were you go "the rundown" coming up straight ahead.
and good morning. i'm jose diaz-balart. breaking news now on "the rundown" rundown". less than an hour ago four people arrested in yesterday's shooting spree that killed at least 23 people most tourists. this coming from reuters from the president of that northern african nation. and we're learning new details about the attack. some victims can shot as they got off a bus to visit the popular bardo museum. others briefly taken hostage in the wake of the attack tu nis schaap tunisia's army deployed to protect the country. and the tunisian president says one was flagged to local intelligence but nothing specific. in a nationally televised speech late wednesday he said, ei want the people of tunisia to know we are at war with the terrorists.