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vehicle is affected. tom costello joins us from washington with the latest on this staggering recall. tom, good morning. >> jose good morning to you. we're talking about 2000 through 2012 2011 and there are a lot of them. the air bag can explode in hot, moist, humid climates like the one you here in in miami. up until now takata has been fined every single day by the federal government because it refused to cooperate. now it's agreed as you said to the biggest recall ever. this morning, the world's biggest air bag maker, takata corporation, is on the defensive with car dealers gearing up for the biggest recall in u.s. history, bigger even than the recall of 31 million tylenol bottles in 1982 affecting roughly one out of every four cars on the road nearly 34 million vehicles nationwide involving 11 different automakers. >> automakers and manufacturers have a safety responsibility they must live up to. there are no excuses.
>> government investigators say exploding air bags are thought to have killed at least five people including young tran who died in an accident in orlando. the family attorney showed us her car. >> what happened here is you can see the shrapnel on the floor from where the steering column was blown apart backwards. but what went forward towards her are metal fragments from the inflater itself. >> reporter: it came into her face and neck. >> literally shoots through the bag into her neck. >> reporter: at least 100 people have been injured. until now, the takata corporation insisted its air bags were not defected. sir, did takata put profits ahead of safety sir? refusing to answer questions from nbc news or the japanese media. now it admits there a problem in a statement saying "we are committed to work closely with automakers and our customers to do everything we can to advance the safety of drivers." but many original drivers may have long ago sold their cars. >> a lot of these vehicles also are in the hands of second owners third owners. that's a big problem, too.
it's just in communicating to them. >> reporter: making matters worse, there aren't enough replacement parts. and it gets worse because if you had your air bag replaced, there's a chance it was replaced with also defective parts and may have to be replaced yet again. how do you know if your car may be on the recall list? go over here you find your vehicle identification number your vin, it's right down here. it's also here on the door jam. then you go to safercar.gov. you type in that vin and any recall affecting your car, including air bags if yours is affected, should pop up. so it's a good web site to go to regardless because it will bring up anything affecting your car. again, safercar.gov and type in your vin. jose, back to you. >> 34 million vehicles, a staggering number. thank you. we'll have much more on the recall throughout the recall. tom will be back with us later. now to the west coast and developing news out of southern
california where 21,000 gallons of crude oil spilled into the pacific after a pipeline ruptured forcing officials to shut down a beach near santa barbara. we'll find out more in a briefing set for 1:30 p.m. eastern time. meanwhile, we have more on what's going on right now. >> reporter: this morning, dozens of cleanup crews are racing to contain an estimated 21,000 gallon oil spill. >> that's a lot of oil. >> reporter: thick sludge now spreading along a four-mile stretch of the california coast near santa barbara, drenching wildlife and forcing campers out of a nearby state park just before the busy memorial day weekend. >> we're driving out here and actually we smelled something like burning rubber. >> it's really disappointing to see this happen here. >> reporter: officials say someone reported that foul smell around noon tuesday. it's how they discovered the crude oil flowing from a broken pipeline and on to the beach. plains all american, which owns the pipeline says it shut down the flow of oil and deeply
regrets the spill. they're now making every effort to limit its environmental impact. >> any oil spill is a big deal especially in santa barbara because after the 1969 oil spill people began to take notice of these things. >> reporter: more than 40 years ago in this same area three million gallons leaked into the pacific in one of the worst oil spills in u.s. history. today there's a concern this slick could spread south, a moving target, with cleanup only just beginning. >> it's not an easy process. i want to manage your expectations. this could take some time. >> reporter: haley jackson reporting, thank you so much. also developing now, texas and oklahoma are bracing for another day of extreme weather. at least 29 tornados spotted tuesday through the overnight hours in parts of northern texas and southern oklahoma. weather watchers captured at least one tornado that hit the texas resort town of mineral wells. our nbc affiliate captured these pictures from above this morning, showing the widespread damage in the area.
no injuries were reported. and in oklahoma dangerous flooding is in the forecast. flash flood warnings are in effect for the southern part of the state which is dealing with historic rainfall. meteorologist bill karins is tracking severe weather and joins with us the latest. bill, good morning. >> when's the last time we weren't talking about bad weather in oklahoma and texas. it just keeps going here. the rainfall totals we're getting to a point where it's beyond ridiculous. oklahoma city 14 inches so far in 20 days. that's about three quarters of an inch per day. that's insane. they'll get more in the days ahead. as far as texas goes you're going to get the bad weather today, oklahoma looks like you'll get more of a break. the storms have pushed out of your region after a rough night, especially around norman south wards on i-35 many roads were closed this morning. a lot of heavy rain is shifting into areas around arkansas little rock has a flash flood warning and numerous warnings just north of the dallas area. everything in red has a flash flood warning, a watch is still in effect for dallas and fort
worth. the worst of it has ended so far. we have to watch the red river, that's the big river that separates oklahoma river and the state of texas and that goes up to moderate flood stage in the days ahead. it should be the highest dples 20 20 years. another bout of heavy rain three to six inches, is coming throughout friday saturday and sunday. that's on top of our already historic rainfall totals. you can guess and just imagine the pictures we'll show you in the days ahead. you don't want it memorial day weekend. it's feast or famine. they had this horrible drought. now it's like a rain forest. >> bill karins thank you, good to see you. turn to politics and new developments for the hillary clinton campaign. a federal judge ordering the state department to fast track the release of 55,000 of clinton's e-mail messages, putting them out on a rolling basis rather than waiting until january of next year. the e-mails were stored on clinton's private server during her time as secretary of state. meantime, clinton has broken a
four-week-long streak of avoiding questions from reporters. on tuesday she took six questions from five reporters, one of them about the e-mails. >> i have said repeatedly i want those e-mails out. nobody has a bigger interest in getting them released than i do. i respect the state department. they have their process that they do for everybody, not just for me but anything that they might do to expedite that process i heartedly support. >> today clinton is in chicago for three fund-raisers and to meet with child care workers. joining me from washington msnbc's alex seitz-wald and leigh ann caldwell. alex, when will we see the e-mails trickling out? >> we'll know more next week when the federal judge says he wants the state department to produce a timetable explaining when they will produce those documents on a rolling basis. clinton says she wants them to be expedited as much as possible. for her she wants to get these
out as soon as possible as far ahead of the primary as possible but on the other hand she now has a situation where they're going to be coming out in drips and drabs and every time a bit of them are released it will be an opportunity for republicans or opponents to find something in there to take issue with and make hay of. so this could be a rolling headache for her from now all the way the until january, 2016 when they initially said they were going to release them. >> leigh ann, hillary clinton from day one said she wants those e-mails out. how much of this is a problem of her own creation versus sloppy state department protocol when it comes to foia requests for example? >> we're learning more and more every week it seems on what's going on with these e-mails and the protocol of releasing them. as anyone who has filed a foia request knows, it's an extremely difficult frustrating process for any government agency. but there's news reports that are coming out saying there has been some intervention by the clinton camp on these -- on
releasing some of this stuff. so bottom line she want this is out of the news but like alex said, it will remain there and be a problem for her campaign. >> alex there's a report in the "wall street journal" this morning saying the state department kept a tight tootight rein on hillary clinton's records when accessing foia officials were unduly scrutinizing requests? >> i think it's always fair for reporters and good government groups to look at these things. the state department has consistently been ranked as the worst government agency in responding to these requests, that goes from before secretary clinton's tenure to after. and the allegation made in this "wall street journal" report, the issues raised is that cheryl mills, hillary clinton's chief of staff,ong time clinton aide asked to be involved in specific issues around the keystone xl pipeline for instance, also around bill clinton's speaking engagements so the suggestion is she wanted to keep an eye on these things for political sensitivities more than anything that might be in the interest of the department
itself and that she perhaps had some negotiations back and forth with the records officials handling those requests. we have to wait to see more. the state department says it was standard operating procedure but fits into these larger questions. >> and leigh ann quickly, on the republican side governor scott walker was on capitol hill tuesday and became the latest republican to be asked about the iraq war. what did he say? >> scott walker says if he knew what he knows now that he would not go back and authorize the war. but i will say, this is becoming an issue for the republicans. there are some republicans who are saying why is the republican party moving away from this? yes, there were mistakes made but some good things have also happened. and so while hindsight is always best some in the base especially some veterans et cetera are questioning why these candidates are taking this position. >> lee anigh ann caldwell and alex
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we fought for that city for a reason. if it was that important for us to fight and die for it should be important to keep not just for americans but for the iraqis as well. >> that was marine lieutenant brian iglesias who fought in ramadi in 2004 risking his life to rid that city of islamic radicals, expressing his frustration about the city now falling into the hands of isis. new video not verified by nbc
appears to show shiite militias heeding the government's call to join efforts to take it back. iraqi forces are also aassemble aassembling in has been nia, a military base near fallujah. isis fighters fighters launched new attacks on has been nia overnight. h ashsbbaniyah. bill, what do we know about what isis is trying to do here? >> good morning, jose essentially they're trying to drive home their advantage in anbar province where they have the iraqi army on the run. now a good time to make more gains. remember isis took the city of fallujah a year ago, nearby ramadi this past weekend and as you say they're now trying to link them up. it's not far, it's a 45-minute drive. overnight, iraqi forces say they fought off an attack by isis. there is the huge military base
at habbaniyah with military equipment isis would love to get its hands on. you have to wonder how long the iraqi forces can hold out because anbar is now an isis stronghold and there are only pockets of government control all the way to the suburbs of baghdad, really. one other point. there have been 16 u.s. air strikes in iraq in the past 24 hours. none of them near ramadi. in baghdad, mean while, in the government ministries as isis advances apparently causing panic, but you have to ask, jose, why? they've known for months they had effectively lost ramadi that it was surrounded that they hadn't reinforced it weith elite units, there weren't enough troops there, they didn't give them enough ammunition and that the iraqi army is in many respects a ghost army, a hollow force that exists often on paper only which, of course partly explains why mosul fell so quickly a year ago. be the government is not panicking and, of course it's
blaming the prime minister hyder al -- haider al-abadi. it's for him a slightly more vicious echo of what's happening in washington with critics rounding on president obama's strategy. >> bill, meanwhile, ramadi are they just writing it off now? is there any plan to -- in place to take that back? >> well as you saw from that video, it is clear that there probably will be some attempt to retake ramadi. it's not clear when but those militiamen are messing. 3,000 of them it's being reported, along with tanks and artillery. and the iraqi government is relying on those shi'a militias to be the shock troops of any assault. if it happens, they would try to punch holes in isis positions in ramadi. that would open the way for elite iraqi army units, perhaps with u.s. air support. that's certainly how saddam's home city of tikrit was retaken
six weeks ago. and mentioning saddam one final point, it appears saddam's nephew has been killed. almost certainly, jose fighting for isis just like saddam's former number two, one of the famous u.s. deck of cards who was also an isis commander and also killed. those former sunni leaders now with isis still trying to topple a shi'a-dominated government. jose? >> bill neely in london thank you very much for that update. developing terror news out of italy, police there have arrested a 22-year-old man from morocco linking him to that deadly attack in a tunisian museum in march. he was arrested at his mother's house near milan. police suspect he was involved in the shooting rampage of the museum that left nearly two dozen people dead. he's being held at a prison in milan. after the break, we'll zoom through some of today's other top stories, including an update on what may have started the
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biker bang gun battle in texas that left nine bikers dead and more than a dozen injured. seven of the 18 injured bikers are still at the hospital this hour and their condition is described as stable. we're also getting a look at more mug shots. there you see them. of the 170 bikers that remain in jail this morning charged with engaging in organized crime and as authority continue to tow away dozens of motorcycles from the scene, police say the fight apparently started over a dispute in the restaurant's parking lot with one biker running over another biker's foot. nbc's charles hadlock is lye in waco outside the restaurant where the gun battle erupted. charles, good morning, what's the latest? >> well, the latest here jose, is that the parking loath has been cleared of all the cars. there's only one or two police cars here left just waiting on the morning rush here to come to the neighboring restaurant to make sure this parking lot is clear. they removed more than 130 bicycles and more than -- bicycles. more than 130 motorcycles and more than 80 vehicles that were
left here some of those vehicles had weapons in them they thought maybe one of them had a bomb in them they had the bomb squad here last night. but the parking lot has been cleared, the 170 people are still in the mclennon county jail charged with engaging in criminal activity. >> charles there's new controversy at authorities initially released three suspects who posted bond and then rearrested them. what happened there? >> what happened was that they were not part of the original fight here at the restaurant. they showed up later, after the police had put up a perimeter. they showed up at the perimeter, they were arrested for engaging in criminal activity. then the judge who issued the bond realized that they were part of the larger group that was meeting here under organized criminal activity. so they were rearrested on that charge last night. they were taken into custody without incident. they too, remain in the mcclen
noncounty jail this morning. jose? >> thank you charles. coming up in our next hour we'll speak with a biker gang expert about the threat they pose to the average person. after the break, we'll talk 2016 politics and head to new hampshire for jeb bush's visit to the early primary state. also we'll talk immigration and iraq with rick tyler, spokesman for ted cruz's campaign. plus, a little later on as david letterman gets ready to say good-bye to late night tv, we'll look back at his career and his influence. ♪ every auto insurance policy has a number. but not every insurance company understands the life behind it. ♪ those who have served our nation have earned the very best service in return. ♪ usaa. we know what it means to serve. get an auto insurance quote and see why 92% of our members plan to stay for life.
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be at a round table event in portsmouth and attend a house party in bedford. joining me from the campaign trail in new hampshire is benji sarlin. benji, what are some of jeb bush's biggest hurdles in new hampshire? >> well, he has the same problem everyone does in this crowded field. he has to find a way to stand out. sol far the polls have been very evenly divided here. people rarely crack more than 12%, 13%. but jeb bush really needs new hampshire and the advantage he has to some degree is that some of the candidates who've won recently -- john mccain in 2008 mitt romney in 2012 -- have a lot in common with him. they're seen as less ideological figures, differently with the business community like the business leaders jeb bush will court at the international trade center in portsmouth. he feels his profile can play well here. he needs it because he might not have the same advantages in iowa which tends to lean a little more towards social conservative activists. >> cheryl jeb bush's brother
came in a distant second in john mccain there 2000 but is new hampshire different or is it actually similar to let's say, the general election? >> new hampshire is a politically fascinating state in part because of the demographics. there is a fairly large turnover especially in the southern part of the state. so the crowd jeb bush will face in the primary will be a different electorate than the one his brother faced because that heavily populous southern part of the state. people go from massachusetts and live there as a tax shelter. a high turnover in terms of population. in many ways jeb bush is introducing himself for the first time to part of that state. >> benjy, some things folks to remark about george w. bush is on the campaign trail he was able to connect with regular people easily. is jeb bush on that same vein or is he different? >> well i would argue that the high point of jeb bush's campaign was his a swing here in new hampshire just two or the three weeks ago and the main
reason was that he seemed to be doing very well connecting with people, he ate some pie at a local club and seemed loose, enjoyable. people seemed to connect with him pretty well. it's an underrated aspect of his campaign abilities but it will be interesting to see how he handles that now that he's had the bloom off the rose a little bit, this tough week talking about iraq repeatedly getting tough questions not just from the media but voters too, while he's been on the road. so it will be interesting how he connects when he gets tougher question. >> schirra, conventional wisdom says he has to remain available in new hampshire. is new hampshire viable if he decides to announce which we're waiting for? >> that might very well be his best path to success in terms of the nomination. we heard as of this last week he's not going to participate in the iowa straw poll. he says he is still going to try to win the caucuses but given the nature of new hampshire and
the electorate here it might be his best shot. it's just a different primary electorate than you see in more socially conservative states than iowa and new hampshire. in many ways, this him miblgmimics what happened with mitt romney in 2012. he didn't play as much in iowa and he went for new hampshire. that could be the way jeb bush does it. >> shira center of the "boston globe" and msnbc's benjy sarlin thank you for being with me. for more now, i'm joined by rick tyler, spokesman for senator ted cruz's presidential campaign. rick, good morning, thank you for being with me. >> good morning, jose how are you? >> give me a prediction of how your candidate will do in new hampshire? >> i think he'll do surprisingly well. i grew up in new hampshire and the first trip i went there with ted cruz i was surprised to the degree of the crowds were huge we've done i think at least 14 or 15 events in new hampshire and there wasn't a single event where less than 100 people came. what was interesting about it is
often you go to new hampshire and sometimes you get a dozen people that's how pat buchanan won in new hampshire and people say they're testing the waters. nobody that i saw in a ted cruz event was testing the waters. they jumped in the deep end and they were all in so we were excited about it. >> and i know that the senator is heading over there next week. what about the difference between new hampshire and iowa and how important is iowa for the senator? >> iowa is an important state. we'll compete in iowa. we're doing very well. the secretary of state has endorsed our campaign. we have a great team on the ground. we visited there a lot and, again, the enthusiasm and the crowds that we get in frankly all three states iowa new hampshire, and south carolina have been really encouraging. so i'm optimistic. i think it is important that you win one of the early states. i think we're set to do that. we'll compete in iowa we're doing well in south carolina and for me surprisingly we're doing very well in new hampshire. >> so you're thinking it's important to win a state which
if you were a betting man would you say the senator has the best shot at winning? >> i've been in this business too long to make predictions. that's because history has a way of intervening so it's too dynamic, too early. i won't make predictions but i will say that we've got the message, we've got the grass-roots and the organization in all three states and the money to compete. >> and, rick yesterday was president obama's executive action on immigration, it was supposed to take effect yesterday but it stalled in the courts. senator cruz opposes any path to citizenship for the undocumented in the country but says there is no stronger advocate of legal immigration in the senate than he is. can you explain that to me? >> the rule of law comes first and the problem is we have -- we have a problem with illegal immigration and the reason for that are is because we don't control the border, we don't an accurate way to assess who's here and why they stay. most people come and overextend and stay their visas.
we have kabuki dance with this for years. i think the democratic party has used this politically which is sad because people are suffering over the illegal immigration issue. so what you have to do is secure the border. and that's really where senator cruz is at. when you secure the border it demonstrates that, look you're serious about illegal immigration and national security then we can decide hueow to proceed next and you have to have an e-verify for employers. but this is an issue that needs to be solved and we have to demonstrate the will to solve it but we won't get it done comprehensively, we've demonstrated that over and over again. we have to solve the crisis at the border. >> but rick let's say you're not far the whole comprehensive immigration reform the gang of eight in the senate presented was able to pass in the senate and it went nowhere in the house, but you talk about things need to be done but other than
words, where, you know secure the board is important, where are the facts? i mean where is -- where are the attempts by people in the senate in the house of representatives, to actually put forth legislation that would deal with things like securing the boarder and then deal with the issue of the 11 or 12 million people that live here, many of who children here, who are contributing to this economy for decades, many of them. where are the steps needed in order to deal with it and get it out of the spentemi-man tikal political discussion. >> the house has to take it up. let's start with the things we agree on. most people agree on border security. put forth legislation to finally secure the border and then let's come up with a rational, legal immigration program so that everybody knows what the rules are and everybody knows who's legal and who's not. look there's a lot of ways we
can approach this and a lot of discussion about it but, again, you have to demonstrate seriousness by securing the border first. >> thank you for being with me national spokesman for senator ted cruz's presidential run. i thank you for your time. the "norwegian dawn" cruise ship is 2k0ked at eddocked at the heritage port in jamaica after it ran aground. the ship is being inspected before it returns to boston. the shipline says it had a malfunction of its steering system causing it to lose power. i'm worried about the reef, quite frankly, as well. after a quick break, nfl commissioner roger goodell has been feeling the heat since handing down the deflategate punishment to tom brady and the new england patriots. we could hear from him for the first time. the details in a live report ahead.
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developing this morning, all eyes are on nfl commissioner roger goodell who will meet the press later today at the annual spring nfl owners' meeting in san francisco. it will be the first time we've heard from goodell since handing down the punishment toll the new england patriots over the deflategate scandal, a punishment patriots owner robert kraft reluctantly accepted yesterday. >> i don't want to continue the rhetoric that's gone on for the last four months. i'm going to accept reluctantly, what he has given to us and not continue this dialogue and rhetoric and we won't appeal. >> meanwhile, the players' union is continuing with its appeal of quarterback tom brady's four game suspension calling on goodell to recuse himself from that appeal. joining me now is stephanie gosk. stephanie, set the scene in san francisco right now. >> sure, jose good morning to
you. this is the speech that goodell gives every year to the owners. after that speech he takes the media's questions so there's no guarantee he'll talk about this but you can be guaranteed he's going to get some questions from the press on deflategate. it comes a day after robert kraft, the owner of the new england patriots essentially came out and said his team is going to suck it up they're going to accept this punishment of $1 million, two draft picks, including a first-round draft pick next year. but he did go on to say he found this punishment heavy handed and unprecedented and his team has voiced their displeasure with the report. they say it's based on circumstantial evidence and you'll remember that the conclusion of that report was that it was "more probable than not" that the members of the team were involved in the actual deflating of the footballs and that tom brady, the star quarterback, was "generally aware that it was going on." now, what kraft said is after four months of what he called
rhetoric it's time to move on. will that mean that the league will be able to move on? likely not as you point out, tom brady's appeal is still pending and the players' union says they're going forward with it jose. >> is there a sense of the nfl how they think this and other scandals are impacting what's really important to the league, the fan base? >> it remains to be seen what will happen next season but one of the best endindicators is look at the super bowl. 114 million people tuned into the game. that's the largest viewership of a broadcast in u.s. tv history. that's on the heels of a long year of scandals jose. i'm sure you'll see people tuning in this fall. >> stephanie gosk always a pleasure to see you. >> nice to see you, too. coming up, the end of an era on late night tv. david letterman will sign off. after the break, we'll look at his ground-breaking career. last night, one of his favorite guests, bill murray stopped by with some of favorite skits and
admitted he had a little wine during dinner. >> david axelrod i have to interrupt you. there's a guy from chicago who's just kind of barged in here. i'm going to put him aside. bill murray you know i told people there might be a surprise guest tonight. do you mind if we finish talking about elizabeth warren and hillary clinton? >> elizabeth warren? >> yeah. >> get to that now. >> that is -- i think that looks like bill murray. is that bill murray over three? yeah, that's bill murray. we'll be back.
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[ cheers and applause ] [ cheers and applause ] >> david leatherman and bill murray raising a glass -- or bottle -- on the "late show." the host's second-to-last broadcast. the moment happened just before my personal favorite, bob dylan performing "the night we called it a day." it set my dvr for that. this is all leading up to letterman's final show tonight and here's nbc's willie geist. >> reporter: long-time letterman favorite bill murray just the latest in a constellation of stars helping dave say good-bye the late show. after a few farewell months of celebrity selfies -- >> above the chin. above the chin. >> reporter: and talking retirement plans with presidents. >> what will you do when you're not president? >> i was thinking you and me could play some dominos together. >>dom knows. all right.
>> reporter: tonight letterman will take the stage for one final hour to cap off three decades of redefining late night. the man behind top ten lists and stupid pet ten lists and stupid pet tricks. known for turning 53rd street into his playground. >> they are stealing their balloons. >> and getting stars to be his comedic side kicks. >> listen i know who has your balloons, tough guy. >> even getting matt into the act. >> how you doing, matt, everything okay? >> little bit warm out here dave, feeling lightheaded. >> letterman recently spoke to jane paulie about closing this chapter in his storied career. >> any enormous uprooting change in my life has petrified me really petrified me but once i have come through the other side through the reward has been unimaginable. >> in the '80s, letterman was the first host of late night here at nbc. >> let's go on inside and see how this baby works. >> carving out an hour of his
groundbreaking comedy that followed his mentor johnny carson. >> you could be a guest, you could be a guest host. >> come to think of it you can have the damn thing. >> when letterman was passed over to succeed carson as the host of the tonight show it kicked off a long-time feud with jay leno. letterman took his act a few avenues over to the ed sullivan theater and cbs, where his desk became home to infamous moments like dave seeing a lot of drew barrymore, and not much of joaquin phoenix. >> joaquin, sorry you couldn't be here tonight. as the voice of new york in late night, he was the first host to return to the air after the 9/11 attacks. >> terribly sad here in new york city. we've lost 5,000 fellow new yorkers, and you can feel it you can feel it you can see it. >> he's also weathered personal storms surviving major heart surgery and a sex scandal with
staffers. but he always came out laughing with his iconic gap-toothed smile and band leader paul schafer by his side. inspiring tributes from guests. >> and i thank you for all of the joy and the laughs and the intelligence you have brought to us for 33 years. >> peers -- >> i, like every kid who grew up watching him, will miss him. >> and audiences at home who will be tuning in tonight for a few final laughs with dave. >> for more perspective, let me bring in two comedians who we know well here on "the rundown." stand-up comic by night, and host on sirius xm radio, who is outside the ed sullivan theater this morning. thank you both for being with me. dean, it's early for some fans to be out there. what's the scene like there? >> there are people -- what's
remarkable there are new yorkers taking pictures of the theater, new yorkers who work in the building across the street who probably never took a picture of the theater before. new yorkers are nonplussed by everything, but even in new york this is something special today. >> let's talk about what letterman means for -- we could talk about his impact on television, but just as a comedian. >> yeah the clip from jimmy fallon kind of resinated with me. i remember growing up and looking forward to summer breaks and summer vacations because i would stay up late as a 9, 10-year-old watching letterman. stupid pet tricks top ten lists, the things he would get strangers to do on air seems so ridiculous and he was pushing the envelope at that time. now with the internet we have so many avenues to kind of poke fun at pop culture cliches, but letterman was a pioneer on this. >> dean when we see the shows and the evening talk shows have certain things they kind of have in common i think we don't
realize, a lot of us don't remember that he was actually one of the people who started some of the bits that are seen throughout television. >> absolutely. the top ten list is iconic and it was on dave's show created by jim downey a guy who i used to work with at "saturday night live," the remotes, using real people as part of your show and being funny. dave pushed the genre. johnny carson may have been the father of modern day late night, but dave took it to other places where quirky offbeat weird and taking chances. that's something he taught us taking chances are okay. you might not get the biggest laughs all the time but you get points for being original and creative. >> do you think he will be remembered as just being a comedic icon or just as a real ground blazing television personality? >> both. i mean he's been on air for 30-plus years now, and, you
know, now he's known as this television host, right, he's not remembered as much for his stand-up comedy but developing these bits and really pushing the envelope on air and maintaining his kind of midwestern sensibility i think resinated with a lot of americans and the american public well still maintaining a sense of irony and cynicism. i think people are going to look back at the lessons and the envelopes that he pushed and allow that to inspire them to do the same. >> yeah just remembering as we wrap this up dean and elahe, you were talking about regular people and talking outside of the studio he brought in his mom. you could see people and aspects of people you normally didn't see before. now it's part and parcel of our television reality. elahe, dean thank you both for being with me, appreciate it. >> thank you. coming up on "the rundown," we have a busy hour ahead. the relationship between the u.s. and cuba takes center stage on capitol hill next hour with
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chatroom to communicate. the fifth bank ubs will pay a penalty of $203 million for manipulating other interest rates. we'll have much more on this developing story right here on "the rundown." now to other developments on capitol hill and big changes in u.s.-cuban relations. they are at the heart of a hearing in front of the senate foreign relations committee where assistant secretary of state roberta jacobson will be testifying. she's been the u.s. point person for negotiations between the two countries, and tomorrow she'll sit down with her cuban counterpart to finalize a deal to reopen embassies for the first time in more than 50 years. that situation was made easier after a u.s. bank agreed to handle finances for cuban government diplomats. and the cuban government's remule from the terrorism list is set to become official at the end of the month. nbc's kelly o'donnell is following the hearing from capitol hill and michelle carew sa carrera joins me as well. kelly, what can we expect from today's hearing? >> i think, jose you'll get
some of the same outlines of the arguments that have been playing out on capitol hill with those who believe the time has long come for normalized relations with cuba and the steps to rebuild the political and economic ties and on the other side still some real weariness and concern about cuba not doing enough to change. so when you hear from some senators who say there are remaining questions like what happens to assets that were nationalized by cuba that had formerly belonged to americans, what happens there. still questions about what should happen with trade and trying to bring sort of the digital age to cuba. some of that will play out. and, of course, congress holds the pursestrings, so embassies still have the potential to hit roadblocks when it comes to appropriating the funds to get those embassy kind of settings and offices and all the things required there up and running. the u.s. has had a presence but this would be a different step so it has softened tremendously in the months that we've seen this play out with some
republicans and democrats working together to try to normalize relations, but still some strong voices here on capitol hill who are concerned about this. one happens to be a candidate for president, marco rubio. >> we just saw entering the room right now. michelle, how significant would it be if the u.s. and cuba can finally secure a deal to open their embassies? >> diplomatically and politically it's huge we haven't had relations with them for over 50 years. economically less so because remember the cuban government is still incredibly difficult and prohibitive when it comes to investments, et cetera. even though the embargo exists other countries don't invest there and there are reasons for that far beyond the embargo, so certainly, politically, as kelly is highlighting it is a very big deal. economically, we have to see the cubans change more for there to be dramatic changes or improvements for u.s. businesses. and to a greater degree jose i
think we're going to see improvements for cubans on the ground in cuba because now americans are allowed to send so much more money to the country. >> michelle getting back to the whole issue of the economic possible impact of this why is it so difficult? i mean one of the things i think a lot of people don't realize or recognize is that 100% of the businesses in cuba are owned by the government. so why is it so difficult if the government is eager to have relations with the united states? >> because they have a communist and socialist view of the world still intact. very few places left in the world that believe this but remember in communism they believe the government should control every single company. they've made tiny little changes to that but they are tiny. they still believe the state should be involved in nearly every person's life. with some minor, minor exceptions. people under a certain age don't remember the soviet union, but some certainly remember that's how it used to be in russia et cetera. they finally gave it up but the
cubans at least verbally they are insisting that's what they still believe in although many people wonder we're at what we call the china 1980 moment. china still says it's communist, but the fact of the matter is they have a market-driven economy in many respects. >> with a regime at the head of that. >> absolutely. michelle and kelly, thank you both for being with me. appreciate it. >> good to see you. developing right now, u.s. intelligence officials have released a treasure-trove of material recovered during the raid on osama bin laden's compound in 2011. among the material released this video labeled "as osama bin laden's draft speech." documents found in and around bin laden's compound in pakistan. at the same time the intelligence community is reviewing hundreds for documents for possible release in the future. now to developing news out that oil spill in california
emergency officials are trying to clean up 21,000 gallons of oil that spilled from a ruptured pipeline. our nbc affiliate joins me now, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, jose. yes, the oil spill happened yesterday afternoon, now the estimates yesterday were more than 21,000 gallons of oil being spilled here. i just want to show you they have quite a bit of oil lining the rocks right now, and it is a very, very thick, sticky oil that has come up on shore. this was from the water last night just hitting the rocks and we do have the environmental impacts, as well. we have seen some dead fish coming up on shore, just to take a look they are just little fish, and we have some octopus and we have big fish that have been killed from this oil spill. obviously, the environmental effects of this we are really seeing that. now this pipe is owned by
texas-based planes all-american pipeline. they have had issues in the past according to the environmental protection agency. the pipe carries 2,000 barrels an hour so it was shut down yesterday afternoon, and it did leave a four-mile oil slick. now, epa, fish and wildlife are on scene, they evacuated the state beach here and they have evacuated all of the campers and they don't know how long this will be closed. they do have a warning at another beach nearby. they did recover 20 barrels of oil yesterday, but they do have a big effort ahead today for the rescue crews, for the wildlife as well as those cleaning up the oil spill. we do have crews here on the scene right now. they are getting prepared as we speak to get out there. we're waiting for the u.s. coast guard to come and survey the actual oil spill damage. jose?
>> nbc affiliate ksby thank you for being with me. developing now in texas and oklahoma the severe weather damage is being assessed right now in the resort town of mineral wells, where a tornado caused widespread damage on tuesday night. it was one of more than two dozen tornados to hit the region in the past 12 hours. flash flood warnings in effect for parts of southern oklahoma which is dealing with historic rainfall. lots of developing stories unfolding this hour, starting with a live look inside the justice department. loretta lynch announcing resolutions have been reached with banks involved in years of manipulation in the currency market. we're monitoring this for you. also fleet week is kicking off right now with a parade of ships in new york harbor. three navy ships, four patrol boats, and two coast guard cutters are arriving for sea services lasting through memorial day. we'll have more on this. first, new developments in the fight against isis and the war of words that erupted last night on "hardball" about how we
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evan good morning. >> good morning. >> i know you're just getting into these documents, but what have you learned so far? >> it's interesting. there's a mix here of correspondence between bin laden and other senior al qaeda leaders, there's correspondence apparently with bin laden and his family members, and there
are also correspondences between bin laden and other jihadi groups out there. some of this stuff, obviously, it's supportive and dated, it goes all the way back to 2003 2004, 2005 2006 but it should be noted there are a number of documents in there that are, again, not terribly complimentary to bin laden. there's a letter from the reform and jihad front in iraq and this is not exactly a secret but nonetheless, the letter they sent to bin laden directly told bin laden that zarkawi in iraq the islamic state ruined everything for the jihad and iraq and they were ruining bin laden's name and besmerching his reputation and he wasn't doing anything about it and they were upset about it. it's to be said not all documents are complimentary to al qaeda in fact in some ways they raise points about al qaeda we had hints of but it's certainly interesting to see now more fully flushed out. >> anything you've seen so far that really jumped out at you?
>> i think it's really that stuff. you know again, i think we're also going to be interested to see what exactly he says with family members. so far the communications i've read between hemthose two men, but we're just digging in now. hopefully there will be more coming. it's interesting, obviously, the timing now coming close to the anniversary of the bin laden raid itself. and it's curious as to why exactly they are releasing it now and we'll have to see more about that as well. >> evan coleman, thanks for being with me. speaking of osama bin laden, a so-called link between al qaeda and iraq was one of the arguments george w. bush and his administration used to go to war in iraq in 2003 but last night mike morrell, george w. bush's cia briefer told chris matthews the leadership misled the public about the wmd threat from iraq. >> so you're briefing the presidents for the reason for war, saying you made that case
when you didn't. they are using your credibility to make the case for war dishonestly, as you just admitted. >> look, i'm just telling you -- >> you admitted it. they gave a false presentation of what you said to them. >> on some aspects. >> that's a big deal! >> chris, i'm telling you what was said. >> do you agree it's a big deal they claimed they had a weapon when you knew they didn't. >> well now more than a decade after the u.s. launched the war in iraq it has transformed into a fight with isis but just as frustrating and complex as it was ten years ago and just this morning u.s. officials tell nbc news the fall of ramadi was a breakdown of military support and discipline from iraqi forces due to baghdad's total neglect of the sunni capital and military forces. joining me now, state department official who worked as the rule of law coordinator in iraq also amber smith, a veteran of the wars in iraq and afghanistan, also a senior military adviser
for concerned veterans of america. what do you make of what morrell had to say, does it change the way americans should look at what happened in 2003? >> well it's interesting. i think we pretty much knew that already, that the connection was very weak between al qaeda and saddam hussein's government, and, of course we now have isis in iraq that's basically al qaeda 2.0, so some of the things that happened in iraq during the bush administration provided the ground for isis to be successful in iraq. the fall of ramadi is very much of concern. it shows in a very dramatic fashion the weaknesses in our effort to confront isis in iraq. we have an iraqi army that is not strong at all, we have a government in baghdad that is promised to reach out to the sunni communities but has displayed very little reach into sunni areas like ramadi. for instance, many reports suggest -- >> if i could, there is a
difference between a connection being very weak and a connection that doesn't exist. >> well that's absolutely correct, and as more information comes out, like morrell's now speaking about it it seems to be that there was almost no connection at all. but i think that was, you know again, pretty well known that the basis for going into iraq to fight al qaeda made no sense at the time. >> and amber, let's talk about the issue that david just brought up about ramadi city where more than 200 americans died. it's now in isis hands. how important is it to get that back? >> well the fall of ramadi is a huge significant gain for isis. it's 70 miles west of baghdad, it's a supply route into syria and on into jordan and that's going to be really tough in the way that strategy if you want to call it in which we are
fighting isis in iraq. what we're seeing right now with just these target opportunity air strikes and training the iraqi arm and assisting with some of their military plannings for their operations they have no leadership on the ground so they are giving them these sort of crash course in learning to fight a war, but then when the iraqi soldiers have to go out into these cities and fight back against this very brutal organization isis, they don't have the leadership on the ground to fight back against them. >> here's the question amber, what has happened because for, you know more than ten years the united states has been in the position of supporting aiding training arming the iraqi armed forces amber, and any time it seems in the past couple of years when they are confronted by some opposition, they run and run and run. >> well in the point that you just made in the past almost decade they have had u.s.
support the entire step of the way until the very political decision, bad decision was made to pull out all u.s. troops in 2011 which allowed isis to gain strength and come in and take over iraq. >> the armed forces seem their method of operation is when things get hot they run away. >> that's nothing new that the iraqis are not able to fight off a terrorist organization like isis just like they weren't able to fight back when al qaeda gained strength in iraq after saddam fell. this is going -- we have to look big picture here. iraq is not going to be able to fight this war on its own. they are looking for leadership elsewhere and they are not getting it from the u.s. right now, which is why they are taking in any help they can get from iran. >> it would be helpful, i think, if people that live in a country and armed forces that is equipped to deal with national crises can handle it. looking elsewhere is important, but sometimes you got to pay
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yesterday, clinton commented on those e-mails saying she wants them publicized as soon as possible, but in the meantime jeb bush campaigning today, even though he is not officially a candidate yet, he says. with me now is ann gearrin of the washington post and here in miami, mark caputo. thank you both for being with me. talk about this pending slow rollout of the e-mails. is it going to be good or bad for hillary clinton? >> i actually don't think it's great news for her. as she said yesterday, she wants the e-mails out. i'm sure it wouldn't be her first choice that all of this material has to come out at all, but what she said yesterday makes sense, she wants to get it all out there and essentially rip the band-aid off. that's not her words but that's essentially what would happen if all of the e-mails were released very quickly, then reporters, critics, everybody else could
pore through them whatever damaging material is there would be exposed, assuming there is some and then probably from the campaign's perspective things could move on. what hillary said yesterday is that she thinks that the trove will show all the good they did when she was secretary of state, and perhaps there's some of that that could be explored as well. but this sort of drip drip drip means that anything damaging that could come out at any time between now and next year, which is a bit of an anvil hanging over her. >> anne these are, we have to remember, these 55,000-plus e-mails were e-mails that were handed over to the state department from the clinton camp after they went through those e-mails in her private server at her home. >> right. we think what they cover is anything remotely having to do with benghazi libya, the run-up
to the tragic death in 2012 of four americans in benghazi. because that was the original scope of the committee that requested the material. presumably that much material means that there's a fair amount of other stuff. i mean you can kind of imagine a lot of other things perhaps having to do with the middle east, with the arab spring with things that are related, but maybe not directly associated with libya. but anyway all of that is fairly rich material for her critics and probably for the rest of us for the press to have a look through. >> and mark the clinton campaign map is expanding. she's going to be here in south florida next week as well as texas, missouri and south carolina. how surprised are you they are doing a national map so early on? >> they are doing a national map, but pretending they are not. they'll tell you off the record hey, we still have a primary, we're taking this seriously, hillary clinton doesn't want to be caught flat footed in the campaign trap but nevertheless
it's quite clear, coming to south florida, three fund raidsers, one in the ft. lauderdale area two in miami, one in orlando, need to raise a lot of money to win. florida is a good state for democrats in a presidential election year, so this is a place she needs to start playing early and often. >> it's been a good state in the last couple of elections for democrats, but there wasn't a candidate for president that was from the state of florida, and that's a possibility this time around. >> yeah you know dangerous to predict any sort of florida election even after election day, because sometimes they are not even decided. >> hanging chaz amigo. >> i don't know if you remember in 2012 miami-dade county was still voting when the rest of the nation was called. nevertheless, when you look at florida, the ethnic demographic and cultural mix of voters we have here it's a mini nation and probably helps the republicans to have someone from here or someone who understands it. so if a marco rubio or jeb bush are not the presidential front-runners or their party's
nominee, having one of them as a vice presidential candidate probably would be a must if the early polling we're seeing is accurate, which is that rubio and jeb are the ones with the best shot at beating hillary clinton in florida. if hillary clinton wins florida, it's basically check mate for the republican party unless the presidential candidate, whoever he is is able to pull magic off in the midwest where they win states they haven't won in a long time. >> mark caputo and anne gearen thank you for being with me. coming up a huge story across the pond ireland could become the first country ever to approve same-sex marriage by popular vote. plus stuck at sea, a scare for thousands aboard the norwegian cruise ship grounded for hours off the coast of bermuda. it went into a reef how dangerous was that for the reef right, because nobody got hurt on the big ship. let's try to find out what happened to the reef. it's one of the most amazing things we build and it doesn't even fly. we build it in classrooms and exhibit halls, mentoring tomorrow's innovators.
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developing now, millions of americans are trying to determine whether their car is affected by the largers consumer recall in the history of the united states. under pressure by the government takata is doubling its safety recall. 34 million vehicles are affected. about 1 in 4 on the road due to concerns about defects blamed for at least five deaths. nbc's tom costello is here with the latest developments. tom, good morning. >> good morning. let me clarify 1 in 4 cars on the road there's another number, 1 in 7 vehicles on the road, if you take out the trucks on the road because there aren't many vehicles that have an airbag in a vehicle that is a truck, that's a staggering number. you drive down the road one in every four cars may have an airbag issue. this is 2000 through 2011 models. we have a list of the automakers involved 11 automakers dozens of different brands involved or models that are involved. so you may be thinking to
myself, self how do i find out if my car is on this list? there is a way to do it. you go to the government's website, safercar.gov safercar.gov, you see on the right-hand side there it says search for recalls. click on that button. that's going to take you to another page where you can type in your vin number. you do need your vin from your car before you go to the website. go over there, pull it off the door jam or underneath your windshield wiper, write down the number type it in and when you do any recall that is affecting your car will pop up. whether it's the airbag or something else. the trouble here of course jose, is that this is going to take years, 34 million vehicles to get the airbags replaced it's going to take years. there's another problem, they've already, of course done some recall work over the last five months because the government ordered they do these recalls, but some of those recalls that the new apparatus they put in
the airbags, they may be defective and have to do it over again. this is a colossal mess. >> wait a second you're saying there's a possibility if you went in because you got a notice that your airbag needed to be replaced, maybe the airbag you put in was also defective? >> that's a possibility, according to the government. the thing is, takata says it still doesn't fully understand how or why this is happening. there's clearly a mechanical reason, also a chemical reason. we know in hot, humid climates with high dew points like miami puerto rico, for example, those areas are more prone to have this happen. apparently there's an interaction, chemical interaction that can cause this explosive charge to go off if it's even hit rather slightly, like in a fender bender. that's the problem right now. first of all, they've expanded it nationwide, because, you know, you may have -- your car may be in fargo, north dakota but if you've driven it spent
any time down in south florida or houston or wherever, you may potentially have a problem, so they can't take a risk of doing these geographic call recalls, it's got to be a nationwide recall. >> safercar.gov is the place to go. check your vin number. >> let me warn you, i've already had many people tell me the website today is very slow and clunky. the whole world is trying to log on to this. take your time come back to it there's no rush. you may have to wait years to get your car recalled anyway. take your time go in there eventually, write down that vin and get it checked out. >> tom, thank you very much. we're also following a developing story hundreds of miles off the east coast near bermuda where the norwegian cruise ship ran aground after setting sail to the u.s. the campaign says dawn with nearly 3,500 people onboard just set sail from boston when an issue with a steering system forced it off course ran
aground on a reef not far from shore and was stuck for nearly six and a half hours. the rising tide helped free the ship, the crew then dropped anchor, now waiting for a team of experts to complete an inspection before resuming the trip to boston. the norwegian cruise line issued a statement, temporary malfunction of the steering system causing the ship to sail slightly off course resulting in the vessel making contact with a seabed. all guests and crew are safe there were absolutely no injuries. several passengers have been tweeting pictures from onboard the ship. we're keeping a very close eye on the story and will bring you any new developments as we get them. if it ran aground, if it hit the soil, be one thing. the reef was just sand look into that. but i want to take you now to south america. take a look at this home in chile as it collapses and is swept away by flood waters. mudslides like this one continue
to ruin homes in south america. look at that. chile's weather service has forecast more rain and strong winds in the area. meanwhile, colombians still addressing the damage caused by yesterday's mudslide. hundreds of victims are still missing and the confirmed number of dead 78. what a tragedy. up next the launch window is about to open at cape canaveral. a rocket carrying a u.s. air force secret space plane just minutes from takeoff. who better to reveal the details than our own jay barber? he's next here on "the rundown." look at him. jay, you and i are going to chat about this in i don't know, 60 seconds. stay with me.
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restaurant. one biker apparently ran over the foot of a rival biker gang member in the restaurant's parking lot and that sparked a dispute that continued inside the restaurant, eventually spilling back out into the streets. meantime preliminary reports of the autopsy reveal the nine bikers who died in the shootout range in age from 27 to 65. seven of the 18 bikers injured are in the hospital this morning, all in stable condition. 170 bikers remain in jail right now, all charged with engaging in organized crime with bond set at $1 million each. at the same time, police say the investigation is being hampered by witnesses who are, quote, not being honest with investigators. let me bring in professor james quinn, who studied biker gangs extensive extensively. you say bikers involved in these gangs come from a variety of backgrounds, making a profile difficult. what kind of backgrounds do they come from? >> generally they are going to be blue collar skilled trades working class people but
they'll be a few middle class types, as well middle class backgrounds. >> all ages right? >> they are generally over 30 but 27's not rare. generally these guys are in their 30s, 40s, 50s. >> one leader of the bandidos spoke to the nbc affiliate in austin. this is how he described the group. take a listen professor. >> we do not break the law as a whole. we do not encourage it. you do not have to be a criminal to be a bandido. we will not take criminals if we know they are criminals. we don't want that reputation. >> so how would you describe this group, the bandidos? >> any club that wears a 1% don, which the bandidos do is likely to contain people who have a police record. it's likely to have an ongoing
record of some involvement in crime. on the other hand the club itself usually takes precautions to distance itself as an organization from crime, so the way i would put it is you have a group of people who many of whom have a proclivity in that collection, a strong proclivity in some cases, but at the same time you have a club or organization that takes the line that we just heard. >> so what is there -- what do they do what's their reason to enter these clubs, what do they hope to gain from being in these clubs? >> camaraderie, excitement and networking. these clubs, there's a lot of adrenaline. they are very often in a -- they are pretty much always in a constant war state. they have enemies all over the world, and they watch them
their enemies watch -- they watch each other. they are concerned with what's going on in this case locally, sometimes nationally internationally. they also, however, have some legitimate activity the bandidos for example, have motorcycle racing and things like that which are totally legitimate and that's very much a part of the club as well. so it's a mixed bag of fraternal gang-like -- fraternal activities and bonding, some gang-like loyalty, which is what we saw sunday and then there are some people in the clubs that are using the club to create organized crime networks. >> james quinn, thank you for being with me fascinating look into this subculture. developing now across the pond ireland could become the first country to approve same-sex marriage by popular vote. irish citizens will head to the polls in two games and a new poll released this past weekend shows 70% of voters in the
country support marriage equality. joining me now is chief executive of amnesty international ireland. good morning. >> good morning, jose. >> tell me a little bit about what is expected and what the polls are showing and is this been a change in public opinion? >> well as you say, the proposal is a quite clear one under the constitution the proposal is any two people should be able to marry, regardless of their gender and constitutional language, regardless of their sex. so it's a pretty distinct clear proposal, and most people i think, understand it even though there has been some confusion that's been introduced into the debate by the opposition in relation to children and family. the polls are at this point pretty consistent. they are showing somewhere between kind of 65% and 70% in favor, 30%, 35% against.
and there has been that is a slight fall in support from polls a couple of months ago, a couple of months ago only a very, very slight fall but i would caution, these are polls. and referendums in ireland are often decided by turnout. we don't get high turnout. the question is which side will be more motivated to vote those are strongly opposed to the proposal or those who feel that this is an issue that basically centered on the question of equality and fairness and building a republic based on those founding principles? so it will turn down to turnout. >> meanwhile, other european countries that have legalized same-sex marriage have done so through legislation or courts but not by popular vote. if this is approved in ireland, do you think it's going to have an impact on other european countries? >> well we think it will certainly have an impact in terms of being able to demonstrate the popular support available. ireland is unusual in that our
constitution can only be amended by a referendum universal ballot of citizens living in the state, so it will be the first time any country has put to the full population a proposition that seeks to legally permit same-sex marriage or marriage equality. so that's remarkable. it would be historic. and i spoke to many people who might view ireland as a more conservative traditional, catholic society, it might be a surprise to them but there's been consistent support now going back six or seven years, majority support, actually started off at 52% and grown steadily over the last number of years to hit the levels of 70s that we've seen in the last couple of months. >> colm thank you for being with me. up next just minutes away from the launch of the air force's secret mini space shuttle. secret space plane that ray barber will tell us all about next. i have moderate to severe crohn's disease. it's tough, but i've managed.
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better life. as a matter of fact, i got one of these red noses in the mail but with the size of a nose like this, don't they make this in xxl? doesn't fit, i tried it didn't fit. you know what, it's all for a good cause and if you can, check that show out tomorrow and matt's doing a great thing, as he usually does. i want to go now to the kennedy space center. we're moments away from the planned launch of the air force's secret mini space shuttle called the x-37b, the space plane about a quarter size of the retired space shuttle fuelled and ready to go. long-time nbc space correspondent -- there it goes! >> is this live? >> yes! jay, i don't know, is that live? >> yeah i guess it's live what you're showing me because it was supposed to go about 11:05, but there she goes she's headed into space on that atlas 5, jose. >> tell me about what this mission's all about, jay, that we can find out. >> well it's the first x-37b,
which is a small mini space shuttle that the air force has been flying. it's its fourth trip into space and as you see, gets up here this will fall away from it and it will go into orbit and it can stay up there as long as a year. they do all sorts of science on it jose. in fact, they have taken over, the air force has taken over two of the shuttle processing hangars here and they are using them for this mini shuttle. it can land here on this long 15,000-foot runway which it can land in california most any long runway if needed but the operation has been moved here from the west coast and i don't know if what you were seeing there was actually because i'm in the studio now, i think what you were seeing was not the launch, but that was an earlier launch. >> jay, here's what we know what we know is as you said as you always say, correctly, it
was supposed to launch at 11:05 eastern time. that is apparently still the time. there was some confusion as to some of the images that we were seeing. is this a live report? live shot we're seeing right now? >> this is a live shot. we saw was an earlier shot they were playing for you, apparently, nobody's explaining this. so we're still sitting on the pad. we haven't gone up yet. >> good. >> yeah. it should be headed up about 11:05, jose. >> all right. what's the long-term plan to do with this secret mini space shuttle? >> well it can and will carry astronauts into space, but they'll be on secret missions. and what it will be doing, it can stand as much as a year up there, as i say, if needed to but again, i think what we're seeing here is that launch again, that we saw a while ago, because it's still sitting on the pad. i don't know why they are doing this, but they are confusing us.
>> let's not show the video again of previous launches. >> yeah yeah that just confuses people. we're still sitting on the pad waiting to lift off about 11:05, but getting back to the x-37b, this mini space shuttle can go unmanned, it can spend all the time up there, but it can maneuver itself to go up and look at other satellites, especially satellites that might harm us that are looking to knock us down and what they call hunter killer missions. they can go up there and they can destroy another satellite, another object in space, and it has a big role to play and it will be very significant in the future of helping us to know what's in space, what's looking at us, and controlling it. now today it's got a couple of experiments onboard, nothing that major. however, there is one small one called a little pod that's going up for this group of scientists that takes a small sail para
sail up made out of mylar and it will demonstrate the ability for using the sun's rays to steer itself like a sailboat in the wind going through space. the only problem is it is so small and so slow that we can go to the moon with chemical fuels, jose, right now in three days but to go to the moon with this para sail it would take us a month. so that gives you an idea. it's not very practical to go really into deep space, but it's very cheap let's put it that way. but a lot is in the future for this air force x-37b mini shuttle. in fact, people here today, old hands like myself we haven't seen excitement around here since the last shuttle landed in july 2011. so anyway it's getting us back into space and hopefully in two years we'll be flying astronauts into space to the space station,
everybody is looking forward to going back to the moon. that is now on the schedule too, to be happening in about four years. >> jay, thank you so much. by the way, i can't let you go without mentioning your book "neil armstrong life of flight" will be out in paperback soon. if you haven't read it pick it up great book by an even greater author guy who knows everything and more about space and i'm talking about jay. jay, thanks for being with me always a pleasure. >> jose your $20 is in the mail. >> thanks. as long as it's not the secret mission, we're okay. that wraps up "the rundown" on msnbc. thank you for the privilege of your time. up next on "news nation" with tamron hall, live coverage of the president's commencement address at the u.s. coast guard academy. see you here tomorrow. hello! this little beauty here is top-of-the-line. see, you just pull like this to go left. and like so to go right. where are the brakes?
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tamron hall. and this is "news nation." we begin with developing news out of california. this is a look at part of the santa barbara coast, now coated in up to 21,000 gallons of oil that spilled from a ruptured pipe. emergency crews are racing to contain the oil and to stop it from moving further south and threatening more wildlife. so far the black tar has washed up along a four-mile stretch of the most pristine beaches in this country. the spill was first reported yesterday afternoon and leaked about 2,000 barrels a minute until coast guard crews were able to stop it hours later. it is the same stretch of coastline where a major spill occurred decades ago. nbc's halle jackson is live on the scene in santa barbara with the latest on the emergency cleanup effort. halle, what's the latest? >> reporter: good morning, you can still smell the oil here and see it on the beach, the