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homicide. he was playing with a pellet gun when the officers responded to a dispatch call after a caller reported that a male was pointing a pistol at people. lowman shot rice within seconds of arriving on the scene. rice died the next day. earlier this week a group of activists filed the citizen's affidavit aimed at forcing the arrest of two police officers. it remains up to the prosecutor to decide if charges will be filed. that's all for now, the ed show is up next. good evening, americans, welcome to the ed show i'm michael eric dyson and we're live from washington, d.c.. i'm in for ed schultz, let's get to work. tonight, trade war. >> president obama's trade agenda. >> i intend to get it done. >> hope does continue to spring eternal. >> i'm not in the guaranteeing business. >> still out there, day six of the manhunt. >> she worked here at the prison
taylor shop. >> she helped the inmates with their escape because richard matt charmed her and she thought it was love. >> not cool. >> another important issue for agriculture this week in the congress. >> the country of origin label labelling program. >> a vote tomorrow in congress about a new trade treaty could lead to lower u.s. inspection standards for shrimp coming in from southeast asia. we start tonight with major developments on fast track trade authority for president obama. it would provide president obama with the authority to finalize the trans pacific partnership, it would then head to congress for a simple up or down vote with no debate. moments ago, ohio congresswoman slammed fast track on the house floor. >> i find it hard to imagine a more dangerous or irresponsible approach than fast tracking another trade deal through congress. tpa, the authority to fast track is the gateway to the trans
pacific partnership, both will further harm workers and communities to a faster global race to the bottom. with more outsourcing of jobs more lowered wages, more dropping benefits more lowered standards for worker safety and compensation. we've seen that since nafta passed 30 years ago. there are some key bills that must be approved. one of them is the trade enforcement act. the new york times reports republicans are gaining support for fast track by letting members of their favorite causes to the enforcement bill. james sensenbrenner added language promising no trade deal with force the united states to address climate change. iowa congressman added another provision that would prohibit trade deals from loosening immigration laws or expanding visa access.
peter roscom demanded authorization for trade provisions with israel. the trade enforcement act is key to obama's fast track authority. this puts him in a tough position. if he wants the trade enforcement act to pass he's going to have to sign a law with potential restrictions on immigration. fighting climate change. immigration and climate change have been key parts of the president's agenda. the house must approve the taa. fast track will not be taken up for a vote. until last night, cuts in medicare were going to pay for the assistance. this means the bill would have been all but dead in the house. last night, john boehner and minority leader nancy pelosi worked out a fix. medicare would not be cut. taa would be paid for by
increasing tax penalties for people who don't file their taxes. their fixed pass by a large margin in the house earlier today today. tomorrow's key votes are expected to be close. dpm president obama's is granted fast track authority, it will allow him to move forward with the trans pacific partnership for an up or down vote in congress. many say a trade deal that encompasses 40% of the global economy deserves a debate in congress. for more let me bring in mark pokan of wisconsin, jim keety. director of educating for justice, and lori. >> will there be votes for taa and tpa tomorrow? >> there will be two votes, one on the trade adjustment assistance and one on the fast track proposal. they're intertwined and we expect they will be close votes.
i think on the taa proposal there's a good chance that could go down before we get a chance to vote on tpa. >> your reaction to this language being slipped into the enforcement bill by republicans? >> yeah well they have all kinds of little ornaments they're putting on the christmas tree so to speak, to get their favor that really we need to not only point those out. more importantly, they're doing everything they can to get votes on the republican for the most part, house democrats have been rock solid in saying we're going to fight for american jobs and good wages, despite those things being around there, and the real problems for trade adjustment assistance. >> there is language on climate change and immigration. how do you think president obama can deal with this and how could he go along with this? >> that is the $64,000 question. because what is in that customs
enforcement bill is the opposite of what is in the administration's agenda. >> right. >> however, truth be told. so it the fast track bill the opposite of what he's supposed to be for. fast tracking the tpp would make it easier to offshore american jobs and push don our inch with as by making americans compete with folks in vietnam who aren't but making 60 cents an hour. this whole thing makes you wonder was there a rabbit hole did he go down there with alice? what's going on around here. it's backwards. i think the congressman was spot on in pointing out that folks want to make sure they don't have more of these job killing, unsafe import flooding agreements, they need to get their congress people to vote against both the fast track bill, but the trade adjustment assistance bill sort of greases the path for the fast track bill. contrary to the intro, they didn't actually fix it, it's a
gimmick fix, it's a fix where you have to vote for $700 million cut in medicare with the hope that you vote after to fix that thing you voted for, except you're on the record having voted for cutting granny's medicare. >> pig latin, george other well. and louis carroll in one bite. why pass this trade adjustment assistance if no jobs are being outsourced. >> i'm at a big loss why the president is pushing the agenda. i spent the last week in vietnam. i want to see what is it is going on the labor movements there. the president has talked about that this is going to create a minimum wage in vietnam, it's going to help them get independent trade unions some of those things you know the wage already exists. it's an abysmal poverty wage. in terms of independent unions it's currently against the law to have independent unions even
if this trade deal were to help them get creative. there's zero infrastructure in place. no ngo's to help them build capacity. the president used nike as an example saying nike is a model for fair trade. nike has 330,000 workers in vietnam right now. it would take an army to go in there to organize nike's factory workers. >> well congressman, it's cool being repealed yesterday, a good example of what can happen with the tpp? >> exactly. you know everything we've been saying that could happen wrong with doing this fast track proposal on tpp happened when we lost in the two on country of origin labelling. because of that, we had to change our laws about that's exactly the problem, there's a lot of republicans and democrats, one of the main issues they have is around losing sovereignty. lori mentioned that it's so true, it's the wimpy theory.
i'll pay you tuesday for a hamburger today. we voted for something that without having the senate's vote, you're going to be voting for $700 million in medicare cuts. and hope this dysfunctional congress, the senate will take care of it and all will be well. that's a lot to ask members of congress to expect. that's why tomorrow's two votes are so very important. >> we'll go from wimpy to popeye now. should members of congress trust that what they're adding is going to be enforce edd? >> no in fact i would say anyone who wants to trust that i have a bridge to sell to you. the way it's written, there's two big problems, first of all, you have to vote on the bill that would put you on the record as sending a bill to the president that cuts $700 million in medicare. you have to vote for that before
the senate has the opportunity to pass the thing that's supposed to fix the thing you already voted for on the record. then there's the second problem, which is is the senate going to ever vote for that? because the bill they're putting it on is one that is just a big plump target to put a bunch of controversial stuff on it may never see the light of day to fix the thing you're on the record doing wrong. there's a thing called a sex executing rejoinder rule which is a rule that pretends to break the fast track and tpp bills into three parts, pretends one of them goes away for one minute and hides. you vote on the two pieces then the rule puts the piece that's missing together, and you have that around your neck on the way to the president. a lot of members are going that parts going to come back in a campaign ad. >> right. all right. thanks for your time tonight. coming up a bizarre twist
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over 500 law enforcement officials are part of the search. aided by canine and aviation units. new york state police are being assisted by the fbi, u.s. marshalls and customs and border protection among others. state police are asking local residents to remain on alert. >> we are strongly asking all the public to remain vigilant report anything suspicious anything with regard to vehicle larcenies, burglaries any sign of any of that we need to know about it. >> vermont officials have increased the police presence around bodies of water in remote areas across the state, but have received no credible threats. a report from a cab driver claiming to have dropped off two men matching the inmate's subscriptions at 30th street station earlier this morning proved unfounded. sources familiar with the investigation say clinton correctional facility employee joyce mitchell established a relationship with one of the
men. the sources tell nbc mitchell was charmed. she thought it was love. mitchell planned to drive the getaway car for the prisoners but got cold feet. she's still being questioned by authorities. she will be charged, but details of the charges are not known. let's turn to dr. jeff gardier who is a psychologist. explain how someone can fall in love with such with such a violent history. two murders at last count? >> this individual is a predator probably a psychopath of some sort given his history. so he's able to smell out an individual who may be at risk may be weak emotionally, he knows what to say, he knows how to manipulate. it could be that he got her to
imagine she was in love with him and use that as a way to aide in the escape. or he may have done something that some inmates do, which is asking that employ to do small favors all along, thinking it's no big deal she won't get in trouble. and bam, he hits her with if you don't help me do this big thing, i'm going to turn you in to your superiors p.m. >> he led her along. what can you tell us of hybrstrophilia. >> someone may feel they're in a situation where they can control someone very quickly. and in this particular case she may have felt she was an individual who in fact was the only person who really understood this individual, and, therefore, was able to be in a relationship which she felt
might have been under her only. >> dr. jeff does it seem like matt was ultimately merely trying to trick mitchell? >> i think so. absolutely. have you to take a look and i worked in federal prisons and local prisons with some inmates. not all inmates. some inmates, they see the staff as being a mark. they see themselves as being superior to that particular employee. and, therefore, it is about the manipulation, and being superior, being able to get them to do their bidding. certainly, i don't think this individual was in love with ms. mitchell. i think it was using her to get what he wanted which ultimately was the escape. >> is it common to see prison employees establish relationships with prisoners like we've seen here possibly? >> what we've seen with people who train correctional officers they constantly warn and get them to understand that they could be a mark.
and yes there are relationships, some of the relationships are healthy, some are the proper relationships where the officer is the superior but in this particular case, this was turned upside down and when that happens, when the prisoner is the one who has the power, that's when things go completely awry as we saw in this situation. >> as always grateful for your comments. thanks for joining us here tonight. >> thank you rev ran the. up next breaking news out of ohio in the case of tamir rice. later, congress could put mystery meat back on the menu. the rapid response panel tells us what it means for consumers and ranchers. time upon a once people approached problems the way same. always start at the starting. and questions the same asking. but that only resulted in improvements small. so we step a took back and problems
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grassroots activists and citizens. very the moss cuter and sort of criminal justice system there was no decision no case as to when there would be a decision. citizens and activists and organizers apply pressure here on the criminal justices to make this happen. not every state has this law in place where citizens can actually sort of petition to have a judge review particular cases. the activists on the ground they did a great job in making this happen. now, there's even more pressure on the local criminal justice system there, and on the prosecutor there, to consider bringing charges against officer lowman. >> we know in lights of the department of justices brief against the police department in cleveland, there's extraordinary problems complicated situations that lead to injustice for so many african-american people there. with that backdrop do we expect the prosecutor will move forward
if the prosecutor has not given any indication that the prosecutor would do so? is this more of a resentment that a judge has ruled not in the favor of the kind of inertia that seems to be going on there? >> some people may read it as resentment even if this ruling doesn't raise or oppress other charges. i don't have a lot of confidence in the wheels of the criminal justice system turning. i'm not sure how it will play out. i think again, the victory is that grassroots activists were able to apply pressure. you're right, the justice department's report on the cleveland police department specifically was -- showed egregious miscarriages of justice, and overuse. they have a lot of problems in that police department that officer layman is reflective of. at the end of the day, the idea
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welcome back to the ed show. the house voted to take words that might as well say made in america off the meat that you buy in american grocery stores. the law was repealed 300 to 131. the beef pork and poultry to label their packaging to indicate the country or countries where animals were born raised and slaughtered. if this becomes law, meat from all over the world could be on your store shelves and you may not know where it comes from. a poll conducted in 2013 found 90% of americans favored requiring a label with the country of origin on its meat. canada and mexico disagree and forced congress to buckle on
your consumer rights with the help of the world trade organization. our nast ta partners argue the rules put their meat at an unfair advantage in the u.s. market. canada and mexico planned to levee $3 billion a year on imported u.s. products. the world trade organization agreed and ruled against the u.s. now, instead of fighting for americans to know what they are feeding their families. congress is bowing to try to repeal the law before sanctions can be imposed. rosa delaura sets a dangerous precedent in white of the tpp vote ahead. >> contrary to what the president has said trade agreements have a direct effect on our sovereignty. they have the ability to uproot laws in the united states. the casualty is country of origin labelling. bewear of the road that you go
down today. >> joining me now is our rapid response panel. roger johnson, president of the national farmer's union. and pat lafrida. author of meat everything you need to know. speaker boehner called this a victory for american farmers. is that your reaction? >> no it is not. >> you guys feel victorious here? >> no national farmer's union was one of the leading organizations for the last two, almost three decades fighting for country of origin labelling for the consumers right to know where their meat comes from producers are proud of what they do, and produce, and they want consumers to know. >> it's not just pride, is it? >> it's about a bunch of things quality control, foot safety you name it people want to know where their food comes from. if this -- if what congress what the house passed last night were to come into law, we could
have chinese chicken come in here without folk it's chinese chicken. >> i think most people would be rightly concerned about that. >> pat, what is this going to mean for the business that you're involved with? >> for me i think it's a big defeat for the american farmer. all we've done as a company in our third generation is try to push the idea of american farmers and buying domestic product. the cool act was great in that we were able to give the consumer the ability to choose and have the knowledge of where their product is from. now, the thought that the retailers cannot or are not mandating to write on the package where the country of origin is from is taking american freedom away from us this is at a time when as your poll shows, 90% of the public want to know where their meat is from.
the thought that we know more about where our clothes are made from the tags we consume and eat is just idiotic to me. >> what kind of risk is this for american consumers? >> not having an idea about where that meat originates. >> you know it's helpful to go back to when we first got cool passed in 2002 and subsequently passed again in 2008 because the administration was prevented from congress from implementing it in 2002. the reason it was passed is because the multinational meat packing companies in this country prefer to source their meat from a number of different places around the world. and deceive consumers into believing it's u.s. product. consumers would see the usda stamp on it and they would think it was a product of
canada south america or wherever in the world if it had that usda stamp on it they would think it was a u.s. product. the very fact that consumers were being deceived and that producers in america were facing depressed prices as a result of this deceptive act on the part of the packers is really what allowed congress to put this law into place to begin with. that's what the packers want to go back to. that ability to source from any place in the world, mix the product up to whatever specifications they prefer and along the way, who knows what we're going to end up eating. >> yeah that's a tremendous -- >> so pat, some of the biggest u.s. -- i know you want to chime in on that i want to ask you, some of the biggest u.s. food and beverage companies supported repeal of this labelling law. give us how it's going to benefit from that. >> the reason they wanted to repeal this it's less expensive. it's less expensive to bring in
product from other countries, obviously. when you have to labor the product by its country of origin you have to slate it in its slaughter facilities. that makes it less appealing to domestic manufacturers, but this is a capitalist market i think 90% of the american public wants american product. that should be the driving force. i think if you took that poll today it would be even hire. i think americans are prepared to pay more for a domestic product than something that could come from anywhere in the world. just the fact that they have that knowledge gives us that much more freedom. i think that if this is repealed there is a way around the act. that has to do with the consumer. if the consumer is educated and
they demand domestic product. the retailers will have no option other than to put their own labelling on the product that says it's domestic that will drive back toward some sort of labelling. so there's some sort of traceability to the country of origin. >> what about the money involved here what about the $3 billion? what could we have done about that fine? we could have extracted that from the billions of dollars we make from pork in one state alone. >> this $3 billion is a threat on the part of canada and mexico. it's totally disproven at this point. the house interceded before the process is over. the step we're in with the wto right now. they said the way we were
labelling it here violated the rules. but they've got about a 2 to 3, maybe four month window now, where canada and mexico have requested the right to retaliate. they have a right to say to the canadian s canadians and mexicans, prove you lost money. there was a study done by auburn university's taylor who looked at the markets before and after it was put in place. there is zero economic impact to the canadian beef industry in terms of numbers or prices. that information, the u.s. would be able to present and we'll find out what that 3 billion is going to be something -- >> that's right. >> thank you so much for your time. still to come the details of a new plan to diversify more
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lawsuit. he claims the governor has taken over detroit's court system and replaced its leadership with the prejudiced administrator, more interested in hurting the people of detroit than fixing the challenges of the court system. >> this is in light of all of the extraordinary changes and challenges going on in the criminal justice system in america gives bold relief to such a story we invite attorney michael fortner to join us now. what would you say to rick snyder if he were here with you now? >> he needs to be aware there's a northbound of problems. first of all, thank you for inviting me. he needs to be aware of the fact that there are a number of problems taking place, the overall impact it's having on the court system here. >> my understanding is go ahead, sir. >> let me start off with this.
a few years ago, the judge was given the job of supposedly managing the budget. the guys -- what's happened there's been handpicked judges to control the outcome of certain cases. judges who have been punished for speaking out about some of the practices, there's been an overhaul of the jury system. >> that's pretty remarkable as i understand it there are plenty of black people in the jury pool in the civil side. there's a derth of blacks that are allowed to participate. >> in civil court, that's where the money's at and if you don't have people from your background or culture, understand how you
operate anded cultural -- you know id yo sink crasscies on your particular group, you tend to be add a disadvantage. >> tell us about then do you think there's a systematic attempt to exclude black jurors from the pool in the civil court? >> well when you start leaving out certain segments of the population, not inviting them to participate in the jury process, obviously it's a systematic exclusion. at one point the jury pool consists of 85 90% of black minority, now it's significantly less. >> it's pretty remarkable in a city as large as detroit with as large a black population as detroit to find that black people are being excluded there. doesn't appear to be something that is arbitrary, but something had a is targeted toward that
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. the obama administration is taking new steps to address housing segregation. they proposed new regulations that will take grant money to affordable housing projects. how income housing would be placed directly in affluent neighborhoods. it would refurbish schools, parks and transportation. then it is a piece of unfinished business that's long overdue. >> we are closing in on a rule part of that is an assessment of fair housing tool that they'll be able to use to understand what the fair housing challenges in those communities are. >> the program has the express goal of reducing the racial and ethnic concentrations of poverty caused by historic segregation.
>> we are first and foremost with housing. to the second question do i believe we should make investments, and we are making investments, that seek to get folks to a stronger track so they can achieve the american dream? of course i do. >> to qualify, students would be required to examine patterns of segregation and address it. for generations, they've been shut out of resources. h.u.d. wants to break that pattern. joining me now. the senior pastor of what has been told to me is the greatest church in america. dr. peterson, how important with these new roproposals? >> i think they are quite important. it is really addressing the spirit of the 1968 fair housing act which didn't really account
for some of the disparity impact consequences of the ways in which gentrification would operate. particularly in our american cities. some of this will depend on how it is targeted. there are basically two pieces. some of it is about community developments structures in low income communities and some of it is about actually building housing in middle class and more wealthier neighborhoods. if they target that in the same cities that have suffered most from gentrification, i think that's where the policy will find a strength and some of the best outcomes. and we are to see exactly how the grants are allocated. who applies for them and where it ends up taking target. >> to piggyback on that i want to turn to a grim milestone that i believe relates to the subject directly. we're halfway through the year and we've already reached 500 fatal police shootings as of last night. do you see a connection between concentrated poverty and the
kind of explosive activity in our neighborhoods leads to such devastation? >> without a shadow of a doubt. one can't be blind to the effects of poverty and the cyclical nature that come when one is denied basic freedom and rights and the progression for good schools and grocery stores and adequate housing. beyond that even in the city in which we live, the police officers who work in the city can't afford to live in the city. so you've already set up a tense moment when officers aren't residents of the community, do not know the residents, are not able to interact. there is tension all around when you don't deal with the poverty issue and see that's part of the race issue as well. >> you're one of the most heralded ministers in this country. the president came to worship at your church sunday easter morning. what do you think is the result of dealing with the outbreak of extraordinary police brutality
against unarmed black citizens, the latest of which happened at a pool party in texas. >> i know it is a very divisive issue. we did not elect the president to be the president of black america but i do applaud raising voices to make it something people are speaking about. the genius of dr. martin luther king was he took off the lid of segregation in the south and exposed it through the nation. and i think the same thing with the president, he is helping people realize is the systemic racism. >> so some are calling this overreach. is that a predictable response to people who weren't interested and invested to begin with? >> yeah. there are a lot of politicians on both sides of the aisle who would ultimately be resist tanlt to this. and you'll hear them talking
points, words like utopia or words that distract them from the actual reality. the reality is there's been a disparity in impact. based upon the ways cities are developing. there are certain things like tax abatements for corporations and corporate entities that underdeveloped housing opportunities for poor folks. so this is a policy oriented response to it. like i said to the extent that it is targeted to the communities that have suffered most from that kind of a corporate favored gentrification, we can roll these back. we know, doc, as the rev was mentioning, if we address concentrated poverty in the systematic ways through housing opportunities. if we try lift folks up we will address the issues of aggressive police brutality and it is more pronounced in the communities of
poverty. there are ways to address it through both these issues. >> you know secretary castro. this is the full illment of the 1968 act enacted in the shad over dr. king's death. what do you say to people housing discrimination. that's been over. we dealt with that years ago. >> they're blind to it. at the same time remember dr. king's dream was never realized simply with voting rights act. he began to move toward check equity, wages, and issues such as housing. i believe we're still carrying on the dream of dr. king. and housing is extremely important because it is connected to the tax base for your educational system. so good education it seem to me is attached to housing as well. >> definitely. we know that is the key to any upliftment. the whole idea this is utopian, i thought that's what america was. the pursuit of the utopian ideal
so all people have the opportunity to get a piece of the pie. >> from one duke man to another, i'll scared about that. you agree with what the revv vend saying? it does seem to be interrelated relationship between housing, economic despair and the kind of poverty people are confronting. >> no question about that. the only way to address the systematic, is to look at policy that's address broader systems. housing, education, criminal justice system. those things have to be systematic and that's what this is all about. >> all right. reverend dr. wesley dr. peterson, two men who graduated from a school down south somewhere. that's "the ed show." i'm in for ed schultz. the reverend al sharpton with "politics nation" starts right
now. >> tonight on "politics nation," news. a judge says there's probable cause to charge a cleveland police officer with murder in the shooting death of 12-year-old tam irrice. also 2016 hopefuls need some vice and they're going on a retreat with mitt romney to get it? and an ugly war on the poor. a civil rights issue that needs to be address think. welcome to "politics nation" i'm live from buffalo new york. we start with breaking news. an ohio judge has found probable cause that a cleveland police officer should be charged with murder in the shooting death of 12-year-old