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started a national conversation about how police and minority . communities can coexist. we'll be live in ferguson later on in the show. which brings us to what happened ♪ this weekend in texas. . an unarmed 19-year-old was shot . . and killed by the police. an update on where the investigation stands this that's why i have the spark cash card from capital one. morning. but we begin this morning with what appears to be a building i earn unlimited 2% cash back on everything i buy for my studio. drum beat within the republican party. that it's time to call in the ♪ sand man to pull donald trump and that unlimited 2% cash back from spark means thousands off the stage. first, yesterday's surprise disinvite. of dollars each year going back into my business... the conservative red state convention in atlanta went on without trump who was told at the 11th hour that he wouldn't that's huge for my bottom line. be welcome. while red state organizer erick what's in your wallet? now? erickson took some heat for that decision, a growing chorus of can i at least put my shoes on? conservatives seemed suddenly if your bladder is calling the shots ... willing to pile on trump. you may have a medical condition called overactive bladder ... the tipping point, trump's ...or oab you've got to be kidding me. relentless slams on fox news i've had enough! it's time to talk to the doctor. host megyn kelly who he ask your doctor how myrbetriq may help treat... suggested was too hard on him at the debate because she's ...oab symptoms of urgency, frequency, and leakage.
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hormonal. >> all sorts of ridiculous which may mean fewer trips to the bathroom. questions. you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood myrbetriq (mirabegron) may increase your blood pressure. coming out of her wherever. myrbetriq may increase your chances... >> that comment drew a barrage ...of not being able to empty your bladder. tell your doctor right away if you have... of anger from gop hard-liners ...trouble emptying your bladder or have a weak urine stream. and hopefuls who used the podium myrbetriq may affect... ...or be affected by other medications... yesterday to take aim at the tell your doctor about all the medicines you take. unfilledered front-runner. >> i've got my wife here. before taking myrbetriq, i've got my daughter here. tell your doctor if you have liver or kidney problems. i've got 800 friends of mine common side effects include here. it's a family friendly program. increased blood pressure, common cold symptoms, and if he's not going to clarify urinary tract infection, and headache. that this isn't what he meant, i take charge by talking to your doctor about your oab symptoms and myrbetriq. don't thing i want him at my find out if you can get your first prescription at no cost event. >> do we want to insult 53% of all voters? by visiting what donald trump said is wrong. that is not how we win elections. that not how you bring people together to solve problems. >> we want somebody that will stand up to the washington machine. we won't somebody who will speak their piece. we also want him to make sense, don't we? >> trump has still not
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apologized and doesn't seem like he will. tweeting yesterday, political correctness is killing our country, weakness. then came news that trump's longtime business ally and campaign adviser roger stone is stepping down or was fired ferguson, one year later. depending on who you ask. trump's people say they cut him lose. stone tells it differently. robert cossa was at red state in thanks for staying with us atlanta. political reporter for "the this sunday morning. washington post." i want to talk about the departure first. what are you hearing? more importantly what did trump it's been one year since a say when he called you this morning? >> good morning from atlanta. police officer shot michael the red state ended yesterday. brown. trump called me at 7:15 this morning to preview his sunday show hits. he's going to be doing a few another foeud, this time, it shows this morning. and to reflect on the week isn't another candidate, or even that's been. a tv host. trump's message was this. one of his top advisers is gone he thinks that it's been a wild from his campaign. week. details are coming up. not exactly how he wanted it to unfold in every respect in terms and president obama's vacation is off to a pretty, of the debate and the pretty, pretty good start with
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controversy with erickson. the commander in chief teeing off with comedian larry david. he wanted to reiterate to me and but will lawmaker's decision on the whole press corps he's his administration's iran deal staying in the race, he's bring him down? enjoying what he's doing, he but we begin this hour with a kept using the word wild and weekend of memorial marches and fun. having fun with this campaign. protests in ferguson, missouri. he thinks he can continue to move on and run a serious one year ago today, ferguson campaign. that's the word he also used. >> interesting. police officer darren wilson shot and killed michael brown. when erick erickson announced a grand jury chose not to indict trump's invitation had been wilson and the department of revoked, there was a mix of justice cleared him of violating applause and boos. what did you hear from attendees brown's civil rights. after the gathering? the protests in the aftermath of >> a lot of attendees at red brown's death kicked off a national conversation about race and the tattered relationship state feel that trump struck a chord with the frustrations between african-americans and law enforcement in a year that mounding for years in the republican base. saw one unarmed black man after they'd like to see him run a more disciplined campaign and another killed by police. really live up to that it was also a year that saw some expectation that he talks about real change. in ferguson, police officers now when he says he's going to have a serious bid. so i think in a wait and see wear body cameras. the interim police chief and moment, they're not so sure city manager there are trump's going to fall in the polls but they're not so sure african-american. the courts can no longer use he's going to be the nominee traffic tickets to drive revenue either. or hold people in jail for minor >> stay there. i want to bring in the panel. offenses. at the national level, president obama banned the sale of some
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kate lynn huey burns is a military weapons to local police political reporter with real clear politics. departments, while providing new david avella is the chairman of funding for body cams. go pack. msnbc political analyst joan activists say more change is walsh is also editor at large of needed. in missouri, just one of the more than 60 bills proposed in the aftermath of ferguson was salon. katelyn, let me start with you. do you think there's a cohesive signed into law. but more change may be coming. plan or unified effort within polling shows that public the republican party right now to ice out trump? opinion about race has changed >> well, they've tried that in dramatically in the last year. a majority of americans now say the past and it hasn't worked. the country needs to make more remember the rnc chairman called changes to give blacks and whites equal rights. trump. support has jumped 13% in the you had some of these rivals going after him directly. last year. and we've already seen the black it kind of helped to propel him. lives matter movement having an impact on the presidential i do think though we're seeing a little bit of change in terms of campaign. powerful new video by filmmakers the supporters of trump. they want someone that is serious about this. frank chee pays tribute to the the frustration is real. he has tapped into that vein. movement with the poem kids who but they want someone who can, die, read by danny glover. you know, take this all the way. >> listen, kids who die, maybe and i think they're starting to see, as we saw in the debate the now there will be no monument other night, that he may not be as serious as they want him to for you. except in our hearts. be. so the question is, which of
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but the day will come. these candidates sees that, embraces that opening? you are sure yourself that it is we've seen a couple of them kind of competing for that lane. coming. and the marching feet of the do these supporters move on? masses will raise for you a >> david, donald trump has his living monument of love. own money. and he's got lots of it. and joy. so what kind of control, if and laughter. and black hands and white hands anything, can the party have on someone like this who has shown, clasp as one. time and time again, he's and a song that reaches the sky. willing to go rogue? >> your question to kate lynn the song of the life triumphant suggested we're more organized and coordinated than we are in through the kids who die. the republican party. that said, look, donald trump >> wesley lauery covers race being in that debate on thursday was helpful to republicans in general. 24 million people now got to politics for "the washington hear the messages of all our post." is live in missouri. candidates. what's it like back in ferguson my thought on this is that the one year later? >> of course, thanks for having winners of thursday's debate me, jonathan. you know, some things are very were really marco rubio and john similar. other things are very different. even as i got off the plane yesterday, feeling that thick kasi summer heat and humidity, that kasich. both talked in human terms. both talked in ways that showed so much reminded me of last august being on these streets as how far we can go. the protests broke out as we we're very visionary in their waited for answers on the
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shooting. discussions. so for people who didn't know so right now, a bit of a solemn the other nine candidates or didn't know much about the other mood. a moment of silence planned at nine candidates, donald trump being on that debate stage got the spot where the shooting took 24 million to see them. place. some memorial concerts. >> 24 million people watched but that will likely give way to that debate but, i mean, joan -- >> what did they see? another familiar feeling. >> exactly. >> they saw a mess. i think john kasich had a very that will be a feeling, probably good night. a bit of anger and protest. as organizers here plan a day of rubio is now on record supporting an abortion ban with civil disobedience. no exceptions for rape, incest, so very much duel feelings here. rape of the mother. a memorial for michael brown who when kelly asked would you really let a woman die instead was killed one year ago today. secondly, a day of remembering of having an abortion to save her life. what he sparked. i mean, the extent to which as we'll see some civil these guys have gone to the right with trump, the extent to disobedience on monday. which they're upstaged by him, i'm glad you thought it was a >> one more question, how have the black lives matter movement good night, and it was certainly a big, big audience, but i think changed and grown since you've a lot of people watched it and been covering it? saw a freak show. >> first of all, when blake >> joan, they also heard lives matter began, which was candidates talk about tax plans. even prior to michael brown being shot and killed, it still they got to hear ben carson talk didn't quite have the national about his tax plan. they got to hear how we would be mandate and the national reach
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we've seen. opposed to the iran deal. what ferguson changed is it they got to hear republicans talk about how they would fight really breathed new life into what was a simmering movement issel differently than how this that had begun previously going administration has done it. back to trayvon martin and you picked that one particular issue but that was a two-hour debate. they heard far more than just austin grant. we saw a massive expansion from the issue you suggest that 24 city to city, here in ferguson, in new york, in cleveland in million people heard about. >> right, but that's lingered is the way trump has treated megyn madison, with i wisconsin. we had the names of the 24 unarmed black people who have been shot and killed by the police this year. there's now a different kelly. understanding of an urgency to >> you are starting to see candidates get frustrated. issues of policing and how it some of these candidates did interacts with race. that's in a way how black lives start out thursday by being on that stage with trump at the center and being able to at lead matter has both changed and get some words in and get some expanded itself this year and of their messages out. how it's changed the country. >> let's bring the pam in to so i think that spoke highly of the candidates who were able to this. kind of present themselves katelyn huey burns with real without being totally outshined clear politics. by trump. this frustration has -- with the go pac chairman. and nbc contributor with solange rivals, you know, they've had to deal with this for almost two months now. i mean, trump announced his is also here. campaign the day after jeb bush black lives matter movement has
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did and has been in the breathed new life into a headlines since then. movement that was already under >> right, he's taken up all the way. wesley made the point which i oxygen, the attention. made as well that, you know, i he's also proven to be, as i saw think in terms of the national a quote somewhere, bulletproof. consciousness about these issues he has done things, said things, of african-americans and violence to african-americans, that would have sunk any number you could argue, it goes back to of other -- of other trayvon martin. >> sure, or it does go back to austin grant. i lived in the bay area at that candidacies. i'm just sort of wondering, the time. i think people have been working battle that he's in now, will on these issues very diligently that only serve to make him stronger still? >> well, i think it's dangerous but not with enough attention. to take on fox, right? and then michael brown happened. that is a tough thing for a republican to do. michael brown was killed. i'm not saying he's going to but then, i mean, i think the lose. poor megyn kelly, i can't leadership has been smart, savvy, wonderful, hard working. believe i'm saying this, she's they've also gotten incensed tough, she can take it, but the extent she has been humiliated. from those 24 unarmed black people who have been shot by the extent to which his fans have come on and told her she police. that's two a month. it seems like every morning, we was wrong, she did the wrong thing. wake up and there's a new name, and then we have the spectacle there's a new hash tag on of erick erickson who himself twitter it christian taylor. i mean, that's -- sadly, that's has said such horrible part of what's fuelling it but, misogynist things about women. not just calling wendy davis i think it's been going on all the time. but now we have hash tags. abortion barbie. the gop's abortion barbie we have outrage.
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we name it. we say their names. because she fought to get the >> the thing we also have in addition to the hash tags, we rape, incest, life of the mother have video for a lot of them. exception in the 20-week and over the last year, particularly the past april, it abortion ban. so there's a bit of a civil war seemed like once a week, you had and i don't know who wins when one horrific video after another and i think if you're a feeling it's fox versus trump. >> i heard, robert, you wanted person, if you're a thinking to get in here. i heard your reaction to what person, if you see a video of you've been hearing. someone unarmed being shot and also, can you explain how -- did killed, it can't help but rattle trump say how he was going to be your consciousness, no? serious when you talked to him this morning? >> right, i think that's why >> he did. he talked about it for about 15 we've seen some buy partisan minutes. the fascinating thing about my effort on this, at least when it conversation with trump this morning and a few of him comes to some of the things they've been trying to do in yesterday was that trump is very congress. >> criminal justice reform. aware of the public perception >> is going to be a big factor i and the perception in washington think or at least an issue. and nationwide of his campaign. he reads articles every day i've seen candidates from both sides of the aisle talk about about his campaign. this a lot. very attune to twitter. and so to your point about, you a politician who's plugged in with the media for better and know, whether there have been so for worse perhaps. but that's how he operates. many cases fueling it, it is so he's hearing all this talk. obviously unfortunate, but at that he's had a fumbling week. least this is one issue that we're actually seeing some that he didn't do as much as he
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things get done. could at the debate. >> criminal justice reform is he said his whole job is to make sure his campaign is prepared in something that republican state legislatures have been taking up 50 states. for the last couple of years. he said campaign manager corey big movement in georgia. lewin do ski has been dispatched by him to go to iowa, new big movement in texas. you even had the u.s. justice hampshire, south carolina, get action network pushing to get a more people on board, clean house in the trump organization. question into the republican debate. they've gotten rid of two top i suspect they'll continue to make that push, to make criminal advisers. there's different disputed time lines and how this all happened. justice something to talk about during the debate cycle. two advisers certainly have left i would also say the koch the camp. trump says he's giving corey brothers have been big funders of such efforts that even got the recognition of president obama and the white house, congratulating them on effort lew they're making in this area. lewindoski more leverage to expand his network, to remain a >> megyn kelly in the debate, viable serious contender prp much to my surprise, actually that's trump's plan and the perception of what he needs to uttered the words black lives do. >> your morning started very early and very newsworthy. matter, in a question which came just before the commercial robert costa, you'll be back. break, given to governor walker who punted. but switching gears, texas. but david, shouldn't the gop the fbi is now helping in the talk more about black lives investigation into the death of matter? an unarmed football player, shot why -- i mean, it is a national and killed by a police officer. issue? >> there's probably a lot of things we should be talking
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about more. this is a big issue. police released this surve as i said, you've got groups out surveillance video from the moments before christian taylor there and what holly harris is was shot and killed at an auto dealership. the tape appears to show him doing at the justice action network is going to continue to vandalizing cars and then crashing through the push the republican candidates to talk about it. we have made strides at the dealership's window but does not state level. show his confrontation with the legislature after legislature is looking at that. officer who shot him. msnbc's adam rece is live in there's an effort in virginia. a state senator is pushing to do criminal justice reform in arlington, texas, this morning. virginia. do we need to talk about it >> reporter: the police chief in more? sure. to suggest we're not doing arlington, as you mentioned, has asked the fbi to join in the anything isn't an accurate investigation, which he says portrayal of what's happened. will be thorough and >> on the national stage right transparent. now, the surveillance video now, you have jeb bush who shows christian taylor aarrivin. mocked the term black lives matter. the only -- you have donald he's 19 years old. trump saying we have to put the early, around 1:00 a.m. police back in charge. smashes through the front gate the only person i can think of of this dealership. who's saying anything substan jumping up and down on a car. he rips out the windshield of substanti that car. substantive, in my opinion, he drives his jeep through the correct, is rand paul. front of the dealership. not something these 17 that's about the time police get candidates have flopped to. a 911 call of a burglary in >> i want to bring you into this as well. progress. they arrive, they surround the on the democratic side, the black limes matter movement is perimeter. officer miller chases taylor to making its presence known very the back of the dealership.
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there's some sort of a struggle. strongly, where was it, net he asks him to lie down. roots nation, protesters stormed according to police, he doesn't lie down. the stage with governor martin officer miller fires four times. o'malley and senator bernie taylor was unarmed at the time. sanders and something happened yesterday, as you see in the video here, senator sanders was >> any police department dealing with this type of an event, it starting to speak and two members of the black lives matter movement apropped the would, and can, shake the stage and got on the podium. confidence of those as you can see, we can't hear what they're saying, but you relationships. but it demonstrates the value of better believe they're say things like black lives matter why we do community policing, and talked more about this. the value of why we believe in but are those protesters making procedural justice, and the reasons why we invest in our a mistake by yelling at community. so that we can work through very democrats about this? wesley? >> no, because if they weren't yelling -- if they yelled at difficult and concerning issues bernie sanders late night, we like this. >> reporter: now, officer wouldn't be having as deep as a miller's 49 years old, he's a rookie. he joined the force in conversation. frankly, we wouldn't be having september. this conversation, jonathan. he graduated the academy in some other people, some other march. he is in training technically. networks might not be having an officer in training. this conversation about what he has been placed on desk duty. they're asking for in this election. i think one thing that is just so you know, jonathan, about a week ago, taylor had different here is very often in tweeted, i don't want to die too election cycles -- in 2008,
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young. 2012, a lot of outreach goes jonathan. >> adam reiss in arlington, through very traditional channels. texas. trump wants mexico to pay naacp, urban league. this is very different because for a wall on the border. this is -- these activists are we'll talk to a former attempting to force these ambassador about those comments. candidates to engage in a deeper next, the post debate money race. who's winning over the donors? way. and trying to project to them stay with us. that, listen, we're not going to have a behind the scenes meeting in private if you're not going to be willing to engage in this in public. and to use the language we want you to use, to validate our messaging. look, at this point, democratic primary, we're already seeing the impact. martin o'malley was a criminal justice -- that he allowed them to help him craft. bernie sanders reached back out yesterday, after, after this, to make sure that he could get back in to the good graces of some of i take prilosec otc each morning for my frequent heartburn. because it gives me... these activists. zero heartburn! it's certainly impacting the prilosec otc. democratic race and changing the the number 1 doctor-recommended frequent heartburn medicine way these candidates are for 9 straight years. interacting with this movement.
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one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. >> thanks for being on with us this morning. >> any time. >> now to the other big headline, donald trump, proving he can steal the show, even when he's not at the show. trump disinvited to the red state gather yesterday, but his hi. name may have been mentioned hi. hello. more than anyone else in hi. hi. hi. hi my name's josh. kelly. my name is raph. attendance. steve. my name is anne. nbc's kelly odom ww'donnell wase tom. brian. krystal. and i am definitely not event. >> this has been a three day a robot. convention of active conservatives called the red state gathering. i'm one of the real live attorneys we talked to a number of them you can talk to through legalzoom. and some were supportive of the whether it's for your business or your personal life, don't let unanswered legal questions hold you up. decision to say no to donald trump, disinviting him. because we're here. others thought it would have we're here, we're here, been beneficial to hear him out and we've got your back. legalzoom. and size him up in person. legal help is here. he wasn't here. yes, he was talked about. when it companies to donald ♪ [ female announcer ] everything kids touch at school trump, he'll always have more to sticks with them. make sure the germs they bring home don't stick around. say. the party went on without donald use clorox disinfecting products. trump. >> i'm not sorry that he's not
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my wife and i are both from san jose. controversies involving provocative media fights. my kids and their friends live in this community. he wrote, i no longer can remain every time i go to a customer's house, involved in your campaign. their children could be friends with my children so it's important to me. but more controversial, the one of the most rewarding parts of this job campaign claimed mr. trump fired is after you help a customer, seeing a smile on their face. together, we're building a better california. roger stone. that roger wanted to use the campaign for his own publicity. the former contestant on his show apprentice. >> when he becomes the president, of course his tone will change. right now, if you go after him, he's sending in the missiles. you know, most of the people on this stage i've given to, >> reporter: and some of the just so you understand, a lot of candidates we talked to, and money. >> not me. about half of those running were actually here, many of them avoid saying donald trump's not me. but you're welcome to give me a name, they don't want to be check, donald. drawn into the conversation. >> actually, to be clear, you heard how mike huckabee said i don't want to be the social supported charlie crist. media critic. that's a common theme. >> i hope you will give to me. ted cruz who is the favorite candidate of this conservative >> sounds goods to me, governor. >> that was the scene when some group also tried to avoid it.
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of the candidates did something also not wanting to get pulled into the conversation. that usually happens behind and i think it's important to closed doors. they started fund-raising. point out, as much as we're talking about donald trump in a asking the nearest billionaire three-day conference like that, in sight, trump, to support them much of the time was spent when and if he decides to end listening to other candidates, talking about issues. his campaign. it was a surprising and so trump was part of the revealing exchange because many top republican donors like the conversation, but he was koch brothers and sheldon certainly not the only conversation. the people here had a lot of interest in knowing about a addleson have yet to commit whole range of issues from the their support to any one other candidates. so trump was only part of the political candidate. story. according to an analysis, only he might not like to know that yet. but that's really how i would ten of the top republican donors size it up. >> kelly o'donnell, thanks very from the 2014 cycle have much. contributed at least $1 million still ahead, what impact will to the candidates in their outside groups. did thursday's debate help the decision have on his donors decide where to put their colleagues in the senate? money? or are the majority of them we'll talk to senator ben cardin still waiting on the sidelines? my colleague robert costa is of maryland. and next, trump lashes out back here with us. robert what do you think? at mexico and a former mexican are donors finding candidates to official response. support? >> at this moment, most of the stay with us. i've smoked a lot donors have found their and quit a lot, but ended up nowhere. candidate. they've gotten their horse. they want to ride it to the now i use this. the nicoderm cq patch, nomination. some of the bigger ones, they're with unique extended release technology, helps prevent the urge
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still on the sidelines. to smoke all day. they're watching these debates i want this time very closely. to be my last time. they're seeing who can maybe that's why i choose endure this trump phenomenon. nicoderm cq. stay into the race into the fall and emerge as a contendcontende. a lot of whom their representatives have been e-mailing me, they thought they had a good debate. they think others can come up into this range. >> where does trump play into all this? he's the only billionaire on the stage. will he have cloud among donors? >> trump believes if he does continue to ascend and he gets close to the nomination, eventually he may get grassroots activists to give small dollar donation but he doesn't have a serious group behind him. if trump doesn't quit, you have to have a financial strategy to maybe go after trump in ads, to
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make sure you have the ground game and the money, to make sure you can survive if trump is in. >> katelyn, let me ask you, maybe you know, if anyone at the they make little hearts happy table knows, the koch brothers and big hearts happy too held a big donor gathering last because as part of a heart healthy diet, weekend in california. between that and this week's those delicious oats in cheerios can help naturally lower cholesterol. debate, any idea if they've made a decision? >> i think they said before they how can something so little... help you do something so big. were interested in scott walker. >> in scott walker. ♪ ♪ >> i know rubio has been impressive and they all went there last weekend. why this really matters, though, is because with the advent of super pacs and they're playing a it took serena williams years to master the two handed backhand. huge role this cycle because these candidates can stay in for a longer time. >> a long time. >> and we've seen, and with 17 of them this is going to be a but only one shot to master the chase mobile app. really long primary. so there is this fight for the donor race. technology designed for you. as robert mentioned, pretty much so you can easily master the way you bank. every one of these candidates has a wealth of -- a financier behind them and they can stay in this for a long time. >> as a guest, i was talking to
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a republican strategist and asked, with all these people getting into the race, how will i know the serious candidates from the not so serious candidates? the person said, follow the billionaires. if they have a billionaire, if a billionaire has adopted him or her, they're going to hang in. you're shaking your head no. >> two things. one, i wrote on go clear politics about, look, the market's -- not unlike the markets, politics will follow the same. if you don't start winning in new hampshire, iowa and is being is your money's going to dry up. donors aren't going to give to a lost cause. so you may have someone right now giving you financial support. it doesn't mean you're always going to. one of the other things we didn't mention, earlier, about those reports, is the number of donors who have given to more than one republican candidate. it's not as if donors aren't giving to multiple candidates that they find impressive. in fact, they are. and the other thing i would note
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is hillary clinton is certainly rallying her billionaires too. it's so not just one side here that's rallying billionaires. >> i think she's raised about 45 what evidence do you have, million and jeb bush is closer specific evidence, that the to 140 so -- mexican government is sending >> she's got to get better at criminals across the border? fund-raising. >> well, i mean, it's really 30 seconds? >> border patrol. different. >> the interesting thing about i was at the border last week. the primaries and the caucuses, with so many candidates run, the border patrol, people that i threshold for winning these states or caucuses is very low. deal with, that i talk to, they >> right. >> you can win new hampshire say this is what's happening. because our leaders are stupid, with 20% of the vote and 17 candidates you kind of go from our politicians are stupid, and there. you can come and, you know, in the mexican government is much third, fourth, fifth place smarter, much sharper, much more within a point or less than a cunning, and they send the bad point, percentage point, of ones over because they don't these candidates, and still want to pay for them. claim that you've won. >> that was donald trump at the and that signals donors too. fox news presidential debate on >> robert, let me end with you. what are your final thoughts on thursday. trump's crude commentary on this? >> i think money's going to immigration has defined his matter even more because trump candidacy since he entered the race in june, characterizing mexican immigrants as criminals becomes a candidate who's either going to win as an independent or stay in the race as the and rapists. joining us now, the former republican nomination. you're going to need to have a mexican ambassador to the united presence on the airways in these states. mr. ambassador, welcome.
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>> hi, jonathan, good morning. early states to compete with the >> thanks for being here. media presence of trump who goes i got to ask you, get your on every single show it seems response to that claim from and gives interviews. donald trump that the mexican that kind of presence is something no one had predicted and that's change the whole government is sending criminals race. across the border. >> look, i think his data is as as if trump told me this morning, wild times. >> yes, wild times. loose as his mouth. my colleague from "the post," robert costa, thank you so much mexico's loss is the united for getting up and being with us this morning. states' gain, jonathan. >> thank you. >> still ahead, have we lost we're losing entrepreneurial sight of who the real hillary bold talented men and women that clinton is? and next, new details about the are crossing the border, have been crossing the border, to look for a better paid job in the united states. waste wat trump should tell that to the wastewater spill that turned this river yellow. millions of mexican americans which saves money. who enrichen and strengthen this their customer experience is virtually paperless, country. he should tell it to hundreds of which saves paper, which saves money. employees of his hotels and his they have smart online tools, so you only pay construction sites. for what's right for you, which saves money. and i say this had been the they settle claims quickly, trend, because, again, the facts which saves time, which saves money. they drive an all-hybrid claims fleet, show, that the last four or five which saves gas, which saves money. years, we have reached zero net they were born online, and built to save money, migration from mexico. which means when they save, you save. what does this mean? that more mexicans are going because that's how it should work in the modern world. back to mexico than those coming
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esurance. backed by allstate. click or call. across the border. hard data is not' rocket science thing to follow. to folks out there whose diabetic nerve pain... shoots and burns >> why is there a net zero? its way into your day, i hear you. to everyone with this pain that makes ordinary tasks is it because the economy is i proving in mexico? or is the climate here in the extraordinarily painful, united states so toxic, that i hear you. mexicans are just deciding, i'm make sure your doctor hears you too! going back home? i hear you because i was there when my dad suffered >> it's a combination of factors. with diabetic nerve pain. the mexican economy has been if you have diabetes and burning, shooting pain improving steadily over the past ten decades. in your feet or hands, don't suffer in silence! over the past decade, it's that step on up and ask your doctor organized crime has muscled its about diabetic nerve pain. way into the business of human tell 'em cedric sent you. trafficking along the border, so it's much more dangerous for (vo) what'scorn? dog food's first ingredient? them to cross. wheat? and it's also because the u.s. in new purina one true instinct grain free, real chicken is always #1. economy, especially in no corn, wheat or soy. construction, has been -- has support your active dog's whole body health been less muscular than the with purina one. past. these three factors combined imagine - she won't have to or obsess about security. have had an impact on both people come across and people she'll log in with her smile. who have decided to go back. he'll have his very own personal assistant. >> mr. ambassador, on tuesday, trump was asked how he would get and this guy won't just surf the web. the mexican government to pay he'll touch it. for a wall along the southern
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scribble on it. and share it. border. here's what he had to say to because these kids will grow up with windows 10. bill o'reilly. >> the great wall of china built a long time ago is 13,000 miles. i mean, you're talking about big get started today. stuff. we're talking about peanuts by windows 10. comparison to that. a more human way to do. mexico will pay for the wall. they're making a fortune. mexico is making a fortune in no sixth grader's ever sat with but your jansport backpack is the united states. permission to park it wherever you please. it's becoming the new china in hey. terms of trade. they're killing us at the that's that new gear feeling. this week, filler paper and folders just one cent. border. >> mr. ambassador, your office depot officemax. response, your reaction to that? >> well, again, if you look at gear up for school. gear up for great. history, you can see the wall of i can offer you no interest sittifor 24 months.oday china or the maginol line don't thanks to the tools and help at, i know i have an 812 fico score, so i definitely qualify. serve their purpose at the end of the day. what trump is missing here is so what else can you give me? this is a relationship that is a same day delivery. mutually beneficial one for both countries. there are 6 million jobs, jonathan that depend directly on trade with mexico in the united the ottoman? thank you. states. mexico's the second largest fico scores are used in 90% of credit decisions. buyer of products from the so get your credit swagger on. go to, united states. become a member of experian credit tracker, we trade $1.4 billion a day in
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and take charge of your score. both directions. so, again, i think that what is important to underscore here is at the end of the day, mexico and the united states will either fail or succeed together and that a rising tide will lift boats on both sides of the border. these are two countries intimately interconnected in terms of the future well being, prosperity and security of both nations. >> mr. ambassador, two questions. what's the response to donald trump's candidacy in mexico? two, what are you hearing from your old colleagues in the mexican government to donald trump's claim that he can get the mexican government to pay for the wall? >> well, look, i think a lot of want to update you on a story we first brought you yesterday. people in mexico take this at the yellow sludge that polluted a colorado river has reached new face value. mexico. i think that many of them feel the sludge is wastewater from an old goldmine. it contains heavy metals that this is an effort to gain traction in the polls. obviously, the mexican includi
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including lead and arsenic. government, per the claims that officials are warning people to stay out of the river. this will be paid by the current officials in two towns have mexican government, understand taken steps from reaching river this is a gimmick. again, it's as if the mexican water reaching their treatment government were to tell the u.s. plants to protect their drinking government you're going to pay water supplies. the epa is the one that caused for all those individuals who have been killed by firearms the spill. while it was investigating a leak at the gold mine. being illicitly sold in the united states and illicitly still ahead, north korea trafficked over the border to takes another dramatic step feed the organized crime toward isolating itself from the rest of the world. syndicates operating down there. i think it's a preposterous and next, the new ads that might make you look at hillary clinton in a whole new light. [ school bell rings ] claim. >> thank you so much for talking ♪ with us this morning. [ female announcer ] everything kids touch at school >> my pleasure, jonathan, thank you for having me. sticks with them. >> still ahead, new video of a make sure the germs they bring home don't stick around. texas college football player minutes before he was shot and use clorox disinfecting products. killed by a police officer. and next, president obama's you handle life; vacation is off to a rousing clorox handles the germs. start. the decision lawmakers are facing right now, though, could put a damper on his summer getaway. why should over two hundred years of citi history matter to you? well, because it tells us something powerful about progress: that whether times are good or bad, innovators with great ideas will continue to drive the world forward.
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>> dorothy. as that ad is known. his guolf game, playing a round is one of hillary clinton's first two television ads of the of golf with comedian and seinfeld co-creator larry david. campaign. they're airing in the early it was the first full day of the nominating states of iowa and new hampshire. president's summer and working vacation in martha's vineyard. while the ads focus on her nbc senior white house buyography, as with all things clinton, they were meant with cynicism. correspondent chris jansing is traveling with the obamas and is >> launching her campaign's live now right there on your first tv ads, keeping the focus screen from martha's vineyard. on her family and not her >> reporter: good morning, jonathan. a windy martha's vineyard. credentials. >> she's completely phony, completely cold and calculated. >> her mother is quite an amazing woman. but they're not voting for her his senior advise remembers hoping this will be a real mother. >> these criticisms struck a nerve with me because it seems like no matter what hillary vacation. the last six in martha's clinton does, people accuse her vineyard have not been. you'll remember last year the of being a phony. ferguson, he also had isis and but i see it differently. the brutal murder of james here you have hillary clinton foley. telling the story of her so this year, the main thing on mother's deprivation, a woman his plate will be the iran she was very close to. nuclear deal. chuck schumer just before the she can now stand before the president came here announced he american people and ask pour was against the deal. so, now, 29 u.s. nuclear their vote for president of the united states. scientists including five nobel don't know how you could watch that video and not make that
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lawyureates have put out a lett connection. her mother's story is the american story. so i want to start this discussion by playinging two supporting the president. clips that seem very much alike. just before we came here, josh earnest said even though he had one is of hillary clinton. suggested the president was the other, marco rubio. going to lay low, there's a possibility he could be making >> people showed her kindness, some calls as they look toward gave her a chance. the september 17 deadline for a like the teacher who saw my vote on the iran nuclear deal. mother had no money for food and they would also like him to get started bringing her extra from some rest because he has a very busy september coming up. home, whispering, you know, in addition to that vote on the iran nuclear deal, pope francis dorothy, i just brought too much food today. is coming. the president of china is coming. he also had a big meeting of the >> my father was a bartender and the journey from the back of u.n. general assembly. that car to this stage tonight, he'll be going to new york for to me, that's the essence of the several days, including making a big speech. american dream. i'm running for president because i want that to still be even though today he seems to be possibility for people trying to laying low during the day, no do that now. >> joining the panel for this is golf on the schedule, he is never far away from the business the national political reporter of the world and many of his at the "washington post." thanks for being here, karen. senior advisers are here with >> sure. >> so, karen, why do those clips him, including susan rice, who's of clinton and rubio get such been involved in that nuclear different reactions? >> well, because hillary clinton deal, and valerie jarrett as has been a part of our national well. >> the white house never leaves the president. chris jansing, thank you very psyche i think for a quarter of
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much. while the first male is on its a century now. summer vacation, congress is on it really is pretty extraordinary that she is its summer recess with lawmakers introducing herself to the pondering whether to support the iran nuclear deal. american public now. on this very program, three very the story of her mother is weeks ago today, steve kornacki something she wrote about asked governor schumer how he extensively in her earlier was going to decide where his memoir, living history. support for the deal lies. marco rubio is somebody who >> the importance of it is very, really burst on to the national very real to me. scene just a few years ago. i'm going to read it, you know, go over it with a fine tooth and another issue is i think comb. going to talk to people on all sides of the administration. hillary clinton, assuming she gets the nomination, as we all because it's such an important decision, i'm going to weigh it do, is likely to be running really carefully. against a governor or a senator that's all i can say. >> while he finally reached that or someone who can point to a decision, with word coming lot of very tangible thursday night, smack in the middle of the republican debate, accomplishments in their career. that he would not support the deal. releasing a statement that reads and hillary clinton, from her in part, i will vote to time in the senate there really disapprove the agreement, not were no land park pieces of because i believe war is a viable or desirable option, nor legislation with her name on them. as secretary of state, she was to challenge the path of largely involved in diplomacy, it's because i believe iran will not change, strengthening relationships with people around the world. and under this agreement, it but, again, there will be not a will be able to achieve its dual
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singular accomplishment like, goals. say, this iranian arms deal was for john kerry. schumer is the first democrat in when she tried to reform the the senate to oppose the deal. health system, she failed. when she ran for president, she will he be the last? failed. so, again, the extraordinary cy had a chance to talk with the part of it is a woman who has ranking democrat on the senate foreign relations committee about his thoughts on the iran been part of all our lives for this long still feels she has to deal. senator cardin, thank you for introduce herself. being with us this morning. let me ask you, senator schumer >> what's her reaction to what karen said and also bring into of course just announced that he the discussion, if you would, opposes the iran deal. when do you expect to reach a the question of hillary decision of your own? clinton's honesty and >> well, i'm analyzing a lot of trustworthiness. the pole numbers are bad. the information. i'm going to be meeting with marylanders during these next few weeks. so i expect to take the month of only 27% of people view her trustworthy. >> one of the problems we have august to review all the facts and reach a decision before is she came into our lives as congress reconvenes in the man running for president september. and first lady. >> senator, does senator i think the other thing that's really smart about these ads, schumer's decision affect the way you're going -- thinking and though, is there's a very factle going about, coming to your own conclusions about the deal? comparison between the bushes >> each senator is deciding what and the clintons. we don't want a dynasty. when the bushes really are -- he or she thinks is in the best
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they aren't a dynasty interest of the country. technically -- >> compared to the clintons, making that decision based upon they are. >> their wealth goes back many the facts and their interpretation and their analysis. generations. his father was president. it's an individual decision. his grandfather was in the it's a matter of conscious. very consequential vote. senate. franklin pierce, his mother's side -- they've been very we're not going to be influenced privileged. she's from a very struggling by how other people vote. mother class family. >> senator schumer is, he's a her mother was below middle class. it's important to get those leader in the democratic caucus. contrasts out there. everyone's been waiting to hear >> it's important because we talk about hillary clinton from him about where he was going to fall on this deal. reintroducing herself this election. but she's very much introducing i'm just wondering if now that herself to a lot of young senator schumer has come out voters -- against the deal, what kind of >> that's true. >> who were not around at the impact that's had on the caucus. >> i think each member of the time of the clinton presidency. democratic congress understands >> also very young when george that each member has to make a bush was president. so that's a big part of it. decision based upon what is in what's interesting about what the best interest of the country. rubio is doing and some of the this is not a matter of loyalty others have talked about this to the political party. too, is he is trying to draw this is a matter of what's in the best interest of america. contrasts within his own party as well with his personal story. >> you haven't heard from any of i was at his announcement speech your democratic colleagues in in miami. this senate post schumer i followed him on that campaign decision expressing concern
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trail in various places. about where they should fall on that really resonates with the deal? >> no, i haven't. republicans who want to get back i'm in contact with my to that kind of message and that colleagues. i know some are undecided. kind of humble beginning story we have conferred just to go and appeal -- >> he's contrasting himself with over different parts of the jeb bush as well. agreement. but no, i have no inside >> with jeb bush. i watched rubio's announcement information on how other members speech. i have to tell you, when he told are going to vote. that line of, my father worked spending enough time trying to in the back of the room so that figure out how i'm going to come down on this issue. i could stand here at the front >> well, one more question about of the room. senator schumer and his i get chills just saying it. decision. do you think it has any kind of it's a compelling story. impact on the white house's the quintessential american ability to get the -- to get story. that's why when i saw the congress to sign off on the dorothy ad, i thought, she's got deal? >> no, i think each senator is the quintessential american going to vote what he or she story, yet no one talks about thinks is in the best interest it. in the country. >> right. >> republicans are on dangerous i know the white house is going ground if we want to suggest that hillary clinton's not been to work very hard so their position prevails. successful, that she hasn't had right now, i think each senator will make that judgment and no achievements in her life. where we need to focus is on the one's looking at how someone else is voting from the point of idea she's trying to communicate, where she's trying view of how they're going to to take america. vote. >> let's talk about your look, voters are pretty smart. and you referenced it. decision making process. you said last month when the her very low trustworthy agreement was first reached you still had questions about the numbers. i was in the airport on the way timing and the process of the deal.
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back from cleveland, from the have those concerns been debate, talking to this young addressed? >> there are issues that are female democratic voter who said involved in this agreement that hillary clinton, her hands are give me concern. i've gotten more information dirty. >> yeah, go ahead, katelyn. about it. more explanations. >> i was going to say i think a in some parts, i've gotten some lot of the appeal of bernie sanders beyond the economic comfort level. message is that he is but there still are issues that accessible. are difficult for me to fully his events are seen as accessible. his campaign is seen as understand why the terms are the accessible to young people. way they are. i understand in negotiations you so i think that's part of this. don't get everything you want. and so when you're introducing >> senator, you say issues that give you concern about the deal. yourself to people and you have can you be more specific? not only a challenge within the party but also -- you have 17 >> well, i've enumerated there republicans for the past several are issues in regards to whether months directly going after the united states will be able to inpose sanctions against iran her -- >> right, and also a generation of republicans who have targeted for non-nuclear activity such as her and her husband. >> and her husband. terrorism. there are concerns as to whether >> although -- >> go ahead, karen. we can reconfigure the sanction >> the real question, and the one she hasn't really answered regime, if iran violates the yet or even begun to answer is, agreement in an effective way. there are certainly concerns where would she take the country specifically. after the time limits when iran what are her policies? is very close to having the her husband famously said over capacity to break out to a nuclear weapon, whether we have and over, elections are about
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the future. sufficient time and sufficient and at some point, hillary opportunities to know what iran is doing in order to prevent clinton is going to have to them from becoming a nuclear weapons state. explain how a hillary clinton so there are some of the presidency would be like and concerns that we're looking at. also how it would be different the 24-day restriction on some from the presidencies of both of the inspections, particularly nondeclared sites, is of bill clinton and barack obama, concern. having said that, there are a for whom she worked. >> you probably just sort of lot of positive parts of the agreement. answered this question. how can hillary clinton bring so i'm trying to weigh the the conversation back to being a positives and negleatives and champion of every day americans. decide which way is the most you say she needs to say what likely to prevent iran from ever her plan is. becoming a nuclear weapon power. i would argue she's been giving >> let me get your reaction to speeches over the last several the president's speech on the iran deal. on wednesday, the president months over many, many topics. compared this deal to the war in iraq. and he said many of those who voting rights, she has an backed that war now want to economic plan, that she just reject this agreement and put the middle east on a path toward gets climate change. another war. do you think this is a fair >> their thematic plans at this comparison? >> no, i think it's not a fair point. specifics. and probably she needs a comparison to compare this to specific republican to contrast its rack wthe iraq war. herself from and not just i was in congress during the republican philosophies.
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i really don't think that these debate. quite frankly, the popular vote there would have been to approve have yet added up to a real the iraq war. i voted against it. so in this case, public opinion, rationale for running and a real description of where she would at least i find in maryland, is take the country and a real pretty divided on this issue. contrast with, again, the last so from a popular point of view, couple of democratic i don't think there's a comparison to iraq. presidencies. >> karen, you're staying with us secondly, the iraq vote was a and staying with the panel. clear vote to send our troops one country a world away is into harm's way. planning to go back in time. we'll tell you where and why. but first, who is the trump and this vote, it is one to voter and what happens when prevent iran from becoming a trump diss their family female nuclear weapon state. there is no clear path if we are tv news personality? stay with us. unsuccessful here or -- whether this agreement goes forward or not, so i don't think it's a fair comparison at all. >> senator, thank you very much for being with us. >> my pleasure, good talking to you. >> next, we'll ask our panel what it thinks of chuck schumer's decision and the influence it will have on his fellow democrats. you know when you book a fabulous vacation cause the photos look amazing? but you get there and find out it's far from amazing.
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ask your doctor or visit trump's attack on fox news's megyn kelly marks a turning point for mr. trump and the 2016 field. his comments have the potential to inflict serious damage on his base of support and here's why. the republican candidate's response to mr. trump's were i would describe this as an intended to defend one person announcement that was not -- was
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and one person only. carly fiorina starting it off. not particularly surprising to saying, quote, i stand with anybody here at the white house, megyn kelly. even if it was disappointing. but it doesn't change our lindsey graham beginning his statement saying, quote, due to confidence that we'll be able to trump's unrelenting and offensive attack, we are at a mobilize substantial majority of crossroads with mr. trump. democrats in both the house and then scott walk, i agree with the senate in support of the fiorina, there's no excuse for deal and if necessary to sustain trump's comments. stand with kelly. the president's veto. huckabee, former colleague at >> white house press secretary fox news, defending her in reacting on friday to schumer's atlanta yesterday. decision to oppose the iran deal. i'll ask the question then to the panel. >> 50 even though i worked with just how confidence can the her, i'll tell you, she is one white house really be without one of the most influential of the most believed people in the building. members of congress, one of the she is one of those people you most influential jewish members don't tangle with. of congress who's also one of >> an nbc survey of 3,000 the top leaders in the senate? republican primary voters showed trump leading the field at 22%. >> if schumer started to whip if you break that down, trump also leads among white voters at votes against this, it would be 23% and among men and seniors at a real concern. it's my understanding he's not getting the party to roundly 24% each. trump leads among fox news core reject this, this was a personal decision. audience. the kinds of voters who watch the fact he is assuming
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the network every day. leadership in about a year and a and he just attacked the most half is critical. popular woman on that network. it's not only schumer, you have arguably the most popular woman members in the house representing prominently jewish in conservative media. constituencies who serve on the to quote governor huckabee, he important panels, you know, that deal with this. abeing thatted the woman you so that's important to consider don't tangle with. too. >> although nancy pelosi would so trump called some mexicans be whipping strongly for the rapists and criminals in his deal. i think the thing that was tough announcement speech and said to with schumer, when it first cape a crowd that senator john mccain was not a war hero. out on debate night, so none of those proved to be the clearly -- >> smack in the middle of debate breaking point for his supporters. night. >> he really wanted a lot of could this be it? attention. karen is back with the panel. the first reassuring things, is this the weekend we see the he's not going to whip votes, this probably means they do have support disappear for donald the votes. trump? subsequently, he wrote a post on >> i am not at all sure it is. because it is true, his comments media and he really went into detail. about megyn kelly were not at he's been a little bit vocal about who those are. all different in tone or he hasn't faded away, though he says he's not whipping votes. substance than a lot of the i think there is concern. comments he's been making about women going at least as far back >> were we on the show at the as i was able to trace in the same time when steve showed the article this morning's interview with -- >> yes, we were. "washington post" to 1991.
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and you've really -- as a >> it's interesting, because i thought experiment, imagine if thought, hey, maybe schumer will he had said basically some come out against it. equivalent comment about hillary and i was smacked down clinton. would he have been disinvited from red state? no. immediately. and steve kornacki is the one on the one hand, you do have a who predicted what will happen, lot of umbrage being expressed that chuck schumer will come out by republican presidential candidates where you haven't seen before. against the deal, so low key, it i'm still not sure that this will get no attention. when that tweet came out saying affects that core of support that trump has. >> you guys agree with that? schumer will come out against >> yeah, i do. the deal, and to your point, i was on the show when he made clearly, he's not going to whip those comments about senator john mccain, this show. votes against it, then he gives i said then, i don't think this at least some cover to some hurts him. this, i have a little bit more democrats who want to vote for this deal, but are there any? doubt, you know, karen, it's possible because she's so with the exception of bernie beloved. sanders who came out in support i'm not sure. i think this crowd thinks people of the deal? have to be tougher. >> senator levin was -- he kay she should toughen up. there's really a sense, and it out in support of it early on. might be kind of accurate, that >> senator durbin, new york's she was hard on him. other senator, senator ju that fox was harder on him than they were on the other nine up there. and so -- that he was justified in striking back. i don't know. gillibrand. i would have some worries if i
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>> by the way, it's worth was the white house. pointing out that the polling >> you have to think about these among republican primary voters members are now home on recess. suggest there's virtually no gender gap at this point for and what of the air waves going donald trump. to be filled with that. that women are as likely to this is something that is very support him nearly as likely as men are. immediate. >> let's keep this all in constituents have a very perspective. >> sure. visceral reaction to this. >> rudy giuliani and fred we've seen it on the republican debate stage. on the campaign trail. thompson were our leaders. uniformly opposed to it. there is a lot of pressure barack obama was down 22 points there. >> it's really more than just this issue. in august of 2007. i think it is an insight into what's going to happen in the what we see in the polls today is not indicative of what's democratic caucus once he going to happen. until votes start getting cast, becomes leaders. the big issue we're about to face, he's going to vote against we're not going to know who the republican front-runner is. his caucus but not actually try karen mentioned this in her story today she wrote in "the to lead them. in two years, he's going to be post," a lot of voters get past the democratic leader. celebrity and they don't know a what other issues is he going to lot about trump, so i don't see be against and actually leading how math adds up for donald his congress to try to go his way? >> that's the interesting trump when -- get past question. chuck schumer studied the deal, immigration, you start seeing he's pro single payer health makes a principled stand against the deal, yet not quite the case he's pro choice, he's for higher taxes, he's anti-second leader in the senate of the democrats. amendment. where does the math get him to now there's been just a little bit of chatter as to whether
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the number of the votes he needs that's actually going to happen. in a republican primary amongst republican primary voters to get how much has chuck schumer the nomination? imperilled his future leadership >> i think what he's saying is i've evolved on all those issues and i don't know republican post by coming out against the white house on this? primary voters are going to punish him for having held these >> there's talk now. positions. it was kind of a done deal. he says ronald reagan evolved. there's talk. that's true. i see what you're saying, david, the liberal advocacy groups are but i also don't know that's very upset. going to necessarily matter. i don't know that this makes because he's saying all the right things now. senator durbin think, hey, maybe >> up been trying to jump in. >> i've tried to anticipate what i do want to be leader. donald trump is going to do i don't know it makes anybody totally in vein. challenge him. there's conversation now that had been muted entirely. i can't find the answers to i don't know where it goes. that. i think where this kind of think >> think about the composition matters in terms of the broader of the caucus now after the past republican party is really election. everything that the rnc and you have a lot of moderate democrats who are gone. generally the republican party has had, tried to do to change a lot of democrats who had made the conversation. foreign policy a big issue. i mean, after the 2012 the caucus is arguably more elections, that autopsy, progressive than it has been in ex-spending the base, reaching the past. out to minority voters, being >> could make it more so. >> exactly. more inclusive to women, changing the language. >> so the president made a at every turn, trump really comparison of this deal to the
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challenges that. i think it's going to be war in iraq in a very incumbent upon these other controversial terms for a lot of people. was that fair? count candidates. you've seen a bit of this from >> i -- yes. other candidates really try to change the conversation. you gave me -- you gave me the again, it's going to come from opening. the people that support trump. yes, it was absolutely fair. in the sense that first of all, if they start to become offended personally i think by the things the neo cons and the hawks who he says, i think that's when they might change course. >> let me read you this quote pedalled that war to us are very from joe mcquaid, publisher of much against that deal. the new hampshire union. i'm not saying anyone who he had a great quote in "the new opposes the deal wants war, although some people do. york times" today. quote, trump's base is more the there is no credible path that people who used to have season really averts war without this tickets to the roman coliseum. deal. so i think it's perfectly fine to say look at the caucus not sure they vote in great behind -- that's really pushing this the hardest. numbers, but they like blood they were in charge of getting sport. gets to what you've been saying, us into the iraq war. david, eventually, the numbers although i don't think the will not be there for donald party -- you know more about this than i do. trump. >> the biggest problem he has, i don't think the party is concerned about that at all. more than probably the megyn i mean, there is -- even rand kelly comment, was the fact he paul has come out in opposition to it. wouldn't pledge to support the so that kind of speaks to where the party is on this issue. republican nominee, while trying i mean, they're not going to -- to get the republican nomination. and if you look at some of the i think that it energizes them focus group's post, that is what
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more. >> i want to move on to other bothered republicans the most. happier topics on the other side and who turns out in republican of the break. still ahead, puppy love. primaries? republicans. >> and they want to win. a heroic service dog phones for help. i mean, there is such that i'm jerry bell the second. feeling of just we want to win this time. and i'm jerry bell the third. >> we are almost out of time. i'm like a big bear and he's my little cub. i'll give you the last word. this little guy is non-stop. what do you say? >> i think another thing that he's always hanging out with his friends. was telling in the debate is you've got to be prepared to sit when he was pressed on at the edge of your seat and be ready to get up. there's no "deep couch sitting." substance, you know, where's your evidence that the mexican government is sending rapists definitely not good for my back. this is the part i really don't like right here. and murders across the border, he had none. (doorbell) and i think at some point that what's that? a package! it's a swiffer wetjet. also begins to weigh on people's it almost feels like it's moving itself. minds as they consider how they're going to vote. this is kind of fun. >> well, we've got the former that comes from my floor? eww! mexican ambassador to the united this is deep couch sitting. states, arturo saracon. [jerry bell iii] deep couch sitting! i'll ask him that question. thanks for coming on this ♪ they lived. morning. still ahead in our next hour, our conversation with the key ♪ figure in the debate over the iran deal. but first, if you like cold they lived. ♪ weather, this new job might be for you. we'll explain. they lived. stay with us. staying in rhythm... ♪
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description of what type of vehicle he might be crawling into? >> he broke into possibly a gray colored ford mustang. >> shortly afterward, police can be seen arriving at the dealership, with taylor roaming inside the building, police say, they told him to lie on the ground, but he refused. >> we got shots fired. >> during this arrest, there was a confrontation between officers and mr. taylor which led officer brad miller to discharge his weapon striking mr. taylor. four rounds were fired during this incident. >> reporter: police say 19-year-old taylor, a football player at angelo state university, die d at the scene. he was not carrying a weapon it the officer just graduated from the police academy in march and was still being supervised by a training officer. police say the tales of the confrontation with taylor and the shooting are still being gathered. the fbi has been asked to join the investigation. >> our pledge is to provide
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these answers in the most thorough and expeditious manner possible. >> reporter: taylor's family, which held a vigil saturday night, questions whether he actually had to be killed. >> he was by himself and unarmed. i just think there would have been other methods or manners that you could have done to take him down or whatever. >> reporter: police say they await autopsy and toxicology reports, and will be very public with their findings. for "today" mark potter, nbc news. up next, why shopping at target may soon be a whole new experience. they make little hearts happy and big hearts happy too because as part of a heart healthy diet, those delicious oats in cheerios can help lower cholesterol. cheerios... how can something so little... help you do something so big.
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prompting the dog to die 911 on a specialized phone. i mean, this is incredible. i wish we had a picture of the phone but that's just incredible to me for a story. >> yes. sadie, my dog, if you're watching, i'll teach thaw web i get home. >> i'm more of a cat person than a dog person. >> cats are never going to do that for you. they're just going to walk away. >> mark and brian, my friends, have this wonderful golden retriever harry who is winning me over to dogs because it's just like this little man that walks around. during the break we've been talking fashion during the break so this is appropriate from "the huffington post," "these jeans will charge your iphone while it sits in your pocket." i can't believe it. the los angeles company joe's genes has a new denim line with special pockets for your phone, a battery pack and hidden cord. the jeans will run $189 plus
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another 50 pucbucks for the baty pack. you look at a placemat on the dining room table to put in your phone. >> how do you wash? >> now the jean shorts are bag, do they come in baggy and nonbaggy? >> i'm on records abeing against jorts and jeans, and jeans in the back pocket ruin the line, just put it out there and we have to get one more in, another sort of fashion-related topic, target is going to phase out gender-based signs so signs in the kids bedding area for example will no longer feature suggestions for boys or girls, just kids and in the toy aisles there are plans to remove the pink, blue, yellow and debris paper on the back walls of the stores. store shelves that used to reference gender. i think that's a terrific thing. >> it's great. at first i was worried they were
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talking about clothes? really, i would like to know which department i'm shopping in, but toys, bedding, these things where girls have to have the pink and boys get the blue and the girls don't get the rough toys it's long past due. >> how many other business also take this approach? target is big, and out there publicly, everybody they've been good at advertising and marketing. >> you hear that walmart and costco? >> as a father of a 7-month-old i want her to play with all the fun toys. >> on that note, thank you to the panel, kaitlin burns, david avila and john walsh, and thank you for getting up with us today. unnext is melissa harris-perry, an exclusive interview with attorney loretta lynch. it's formulated to target and kill 99% of germs without the burn of alcohol. so you move to a
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this morning, my question, how has policing changed since ferguson?
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plus my exclusive interview with attorney general loretta lynch, and the stars of "straight out of compton" come to nerdland. but first, it happened one year ago today. good morning, i'm melissa harris-perry. today is august 9th. one year ago today michael brown was walking home from a convenience store in ferguson, ss
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