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the epa's accidental mine spill into a colorado river spreads downstream, frightening and infuriating residents. >> normally on a day like this it would be just bustling. >> i mean, it's the middle of summer and we can't play in the water. and how long this is going to take to go away. it's going to effect our lives whether we want it to or not. good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. donald trump made his peace with fox news today, continuing his morning round of telephone interviews. as republicans weigh the damage of having a candidate on stage who is a loose cannon when it comes to women's issues. here's trump on cnn. >> the biggest problem i have with planned parenthood is the abortion situation. i mean, it's like an abortion factory, frankly. and you can't have it.
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>> they say it's only 3% of what they do and the money that does go toward abortions is not the money that comes from the federal government, that they separate the two. >> this is what i do if the time came, i would look at the individual things that they do and maybe some of the things they dond i know a lot of the things are bad. >> right now hillary clinton is holding a town hall in new hampshire at a community college where on monday she tried to lump all of the republicans in with donald trump. >> while what donald trump said about megyn kelly is outrageous, what the rest of the republicans are saying about all women is also outrageous. we'll let the republicans, you know, go back and forth with each other. but i want to point out there's really not that much difference in the policies that they are proposing when it comes to american women. >> joining me now for our daily fix nbc's kristen welker covering the clinton campaign in mf, molly ball, political writer for "the atlantic" and national
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reporter. kristen, up there in new hampshire, the women's issues and the reaction to the republican candidates is what hillary clinton has been focusing on as well as, of course, her speech today and yesterday on college loans. her point is that the republicans at this debate did not discuss even once the issue of student loan debt. >> that's right. and, look, you see clinton taking this tactic, as you just pointed out, andrea, and you of course were with her on the campaign trail yesterday, trying to lump all of the republicans in in with donald trump when it comes to this issue. it's a way to rally her base which, of course, is also a key voting bloc. 53% of registered voters are women. so yesterday she lumped everyone in and said, look, the comments that we're hearing from donald trump are a broader indication that republicans as a whole are out of touch when it comes to women's issues. very interestingly she went after marco rubio directly, slammed him for opposing abortion and all instances, even in cases of rape and insist.
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of course, rubio came back at her and said he's going to paint her as having radical ideas on this issue. but if you look at the broader electorate, 19% of people agree with marco rubio. so this enables clinton to rally her base. that's important in places like new hampshire where clinton is leading but, as you know, andrea, she's only leading bernie sanders by six points. she is here today talking about her plan to make college more affordable. another way she hopes to really the base and core voters, younger voters in this case. andrea? >> and a little bit more, yis ten, of what she had to say about mark you ruco rubio in ne hampshire. >> when one of their major candidates, a much younger man, the senator from florida, says there should be no exceptions for rape and insicest, that is offensive and as troubling a comment as you can hear from a major candidate running for the
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presidency. >> is that an indication, karen, of just how worried the clinton campaign may be about marco rubio and his political skills? >> i found it interest that she brought up his age in this because, of course, he is portraying -- and for one thing, privately the clinton team will tell you marco rubio is very much of a concern to them. and he is running as sort of a new day no politicses. the more she can paint him as an extremist, you know, the better for her. but the fact is this complete chaos on the republican side is presenting a lot of opportunities for hillary clinton, not only to, again, paint them as extremists but also to actually put some policy points on the board, which is not really happening much on the republican side. >> and, molly, that program that she's outlining on student debt, it's expensive so it's going to be attacked, it already has been attacked by republicans as $350 billion over ten years.
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in basically closing tax loopholes for the wealthy, which is, they say, a tax raise on people. but at the same time, she's speaking to people who are so mid 8 class people, upper middle class people, working people who are so burdened by student debt, by loans, what we're talking about here is the younger generation and also their parents. >> this is an issue that polls well. it's an issue that's popular. but let's face it, there's a parallel campaign going on, the substantive campaign, the campaign that's hillary ver russ jeb and marco and then there's campaign that most people are watching which is the chaos, the continuing explosion of the trump primary. and so this actually enables hillary to get a little bit out of that spotlight she has found so oppressive because for the first maybe last time she's not the big story in politics for a change, which she hasn't always dealt with as well. that crush of attention that she gets. >> karen, donald trump said he
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would be grate for women, he's hired women, given them top jobs in running his construction projects, that he pays women well. we have not fact checked any of this. i'm not sure how you would fact check it. but can he credibly become the woman's candidate in this campaign on the republican side? >> no. i mean, in a word. the fact is he's just got such a history, a history going back a quarter of a century of kind of flippant masonist comments. he's put no policies out there. he says he would be the best jobs president ever. he says he would be great for women, but when he is pressed on the specifics of what he would do policiwise, his basic answer to every single problem this country has is the force of his own personality. >> and, kristen welker, when we were up there yesterday people were still undecided.
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new hampshire voters take a long time to decide. generally they are late deciders. what are you seeing in that crowd today? i don't know with the rain, a great chance to talk to people lingering outside. >> reporter: look, a couple hundred people turned out despite the rain, andrea. it's been raining all morning. a lot of enthusiasm for clinton today. but you talk about the bernie sanders effect. it can't be ignored. he is drawing huge crowds. thousands of people. you hear a lot of people talk about feeling the burn. and, of course, the challenge for clinton is that she does have these issues that continue to linger in her campaign. these questions about her e-mail, about the clinton's foundation. that's been a real drag on her, particularly if you look at the polls. that's a concern and n. a state like new hampshire which is so critical. again, she has the lead here, andrea. but bernie sanders is anying at her heels. that is for sure. >> and, one thing to wrap up with, karen tumulty, you know texas so well. what's happened to rick perry
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campaign with him telling staff members that they are not going to be able to pay them. he's got pac money but he can't use the pac money to pay the campaign workers. is this campaign folding or is is this just an emergency call? >> he is in an absolutely dire situation. you've really got to wonder what kind of position rick perry would be in now if he hadn't run the first time. his strategists, i think, believe they have until the next debate, but if he can't get on the big stage for the next debate, i think they're going to have to make some very hard decisions as to whether they can even continue this campaign. >> karen tumulty, kristen welker, thank you so much. and molly ball here in d.c. thank you all. and at this hour a state of emergency still in effect in ferguson, missouri. last night was the fourth night of protests marking the first anniversary of the shooting death of michael brown. more clashes took place between protesters and police with
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nearly two dozen people arrested. "usa today" national reporter has been there for it all and joins me now from ferguson. so good to see you again. tell me about last night because there were some demonstrators throwing bottles, frozen water bottle, rocks at officers. did this start with the demonstrators, with the protesters, were there outside people involved? what is your take? >> they were on one side of the street for a long period of time while the police were on the other side of the street. at some point the protesters decided they really wanted to be in the middle of the street to talk about that civil disobedience, to make a show they could break these laws in the name of really the fact that they think black lives matter and they want to really make that such a part of their night. so police, when those protesters started going in the middle of the street police started arresting people, macing people, and really showing a very strong show of force. so that's kind of happened last night. and, yes, there were bottles
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thrown and rocks thrown but i think that for the majority of people that were there they were out there peacefully protesting. the people i saw getting arrested were the people in the middle of the street. >> and what's going to happen next? >> tonight is just going to be another night in ferguson. it's really become somewhat unpredictable in some ways how the night is going to go. i've always said really when it dets dark here and when the sun sets it gets iffy and we have to figure out whether or not it's going to be a peaceful night. i really have to kind of cautionary say that maybe things are going to be peaceful again tonight. last night seemed to be even with those 22 arrests last night, pretty calm night in terms of that. so i think that we're looking at just another day of protests here in ferguson. i don't imagine that we're going to see the same return of violence we saw sunday night. >> and i want to ask you about charges that this is so hard to believe, hard to understand, but charges were filed against wes
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lowery of the "washington post" and ryan riley of the huffington post for an incident that happened at mcdonald's a year ago. you posted something on your twitter feed last night of ryan riley of "huff po" and his confrontation with police. let's watch it. >> hey, hey. >> i'm media. >> hey, get back. >> and, i mean, it's confusing but he was basically saying i'm media, i'm media, i'm media, trying to tell the police he's a reporter. he was also on with jose this morning so let's listen to it, what he had to say. >> all night i made a conscious effort to politely and quickly obey any order i was given by police officers. that's what i tried to do in this case. when i heard the order back up i readily started backing up and the officer grabbed me. when i tried to show my press
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credentials from my chest ripped it off my neck. at that point i put my hands behind my back because i wanted to show that i was not resisting at all. >> so what is the situation with reporters, wes lowery, i know protests by "the washington post." this goes back to that incident at mcdonald's which we out knew about a year ago where the police came in while they were filing, they were using the mcdonald's to charge up their laptops. >> i think reporters across the country are really concerned about how wes lowery and ryan reilly are being treated here. when i saw that video of ryan yesterday it concerned me because he was only feet away from me and for him to have to scream i'm media, i'm media and to only then to get the police to calm down is concerning. like i said last night, the police, as soon as people got in the street they started jumping in going into the crowd. and they were grabbing anybody they could. ryan was very close to the police at that moment and that's
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why that happened. but i think charging these reporters is really concerning and i'm just really watching this case really closely because as someone who has been here, someone who has watched ryan and wesley report accurately and try to be as respectful as possible i'm concerned about what's going to happen in this situation. >> thank you so much. be careful out there. thank you for being with us today. >> thanks. and up next, what has changed in ferguson in the year since michael brown died. we'll talk to one of the youngest members of the ferguson commission organized after last year's unrest. and later still -- >> i am so concerned about our future and the generations to come at this point. they are only scratching the surface. >> residents in durango, colorado, scared and worried about their future after that 3 million gallon toxic spill. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc.
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by and large this has been peaceful. there have been some outliers that were not protesters, that engaged in gunfire. that's what happened. once again, i worry that this narrative that gets picked up, that this is us versus them, that this is -- that it doesn't really help bring us together. and i think this is another example where there is heightened rhetoric around what's going on in ferguson. >> missouri senator claire mccaskill on "morning joe" today talking about the recent events in ferguson. one young man who knows a lot about what's going on there, community argue r organizer and actist, working to promote positive change since the protests began a year ago. rasheed, thank you very much for being with us. i think, in fact, i heard that
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you postponed going away to school because you've been wanting to deepen your roots in the community and try to make a difference there. >> yes, ma'am. last august 9th i actually dropped out of school. i know that's not the best of news. but i dropped out of school to get more involved in the protestsing and get more involved in the things that was going on in canfield and in ferguson, outside the police department. it was something that kind of felt like i needed to do this, i needed to take time off of school and actually do more and make a difference and be part of the change that, as we look back one year later, has made positive change but we still have a long way to go. >> rasheen, what have you learned in the last year, for good and for bad? >> this past year has been tough. it has been a lot of ups and has been a lot of downs. i've learned that since this last year seeing how people can come united and how people can come together and how when people do come together the
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positive things, awareness that can come out of it, but at the same time, the negative that came from ferguson is continued to see black lives bag laid on the middle of the streets are continuing to see black lives taken at the hands of the police department. we have made a lot of steps. we have come almost, i would say, as far away long -- we have a lot more to go though. and this is just a start. this is just a start of a long overhaul of change that is coming out not only to the city of ferguson but to this whole st. louis region. >> at this stage what are you going to do next? do you think that now it is time to go back to school or are you going to stay in the community? where do you see your most effective real, rasheen? >> personally i definitely want to get back in school and go to school and get my political science degree and eventually maybe go into political science and take up or run for office one day.
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for public servant, not politician. it's a different. public servant, actually doing for the people. that's a problem in these communities. that's the problem in ferguson and the problem in st. louis. not just elected officials be even the police departments, they're not representing the community. they're not being a voice for the community. they continue to lead the community out. that's the problem as we look at ferguson, it's deeper than just police brutality. it's also economic injustice that has been going on in ferguson for years. educational disparity that's been going on in ferguson bep need to start addressing those issues and we really need to start addressing the police brutality. continue to stay engaged in the protests and continue to organize with my young people that have changed this world this last year but also go back to get my degree to continue to fight and to continue to further my role in this movement and to continue to help the movement grow. >> i know when we talked last year about this time and then you heard from valerie jarrett, i think, and came to washington and met with the president, have you had any further contact with
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d.c., with federal officials, with the white house? >> last year when we talked it actually was a bittersweet moment. we did talk about, you know, me and other activists going to the white house to talk to the president of the united states. something that probably would never have happened if it wasn't for the young people continuing to step up and to fight against op pressed group of people, oppressed system that continues to hold people down. at the same time we were reminiscing closer to the nine indictment and how sad it was, how young people had continued to be peaceful, continued to organize for hundred something days and at the end of the day it still seemed like, you know, our lives didn't matter, still seemed like black lives didn't matter, do it the right way. i haven't been in contact with the big "o," my uncle, he hasn't called me since then. there are other young people that have, like brittney on the ferguson commission, who is on the president's task force that continues to have these
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conversations with elected officials that can bring that back to the movement and make this a more powerful, more sustainable and long-term movement. >> rasheen aldridge, let's stay in touch and hear from you sooner as you progress and see what change you have been able to achieve there. thank you very much for everything that you're doing. >> thank you so much, andrea. >> good to see you. and still to come, u.s. rowers, sick in rio. is it the water? but first. >> we've had to cancel all of our trips. normally these would be on the water. we would probably just have like four or five rafts just kind of sitting around. >> rafting businesses in colorado run aground at the height of their summer season after a toxic sludge taking over the river. you're watching msnbc. do you like the passaaadd? it's a good looking car. this is the model rear end event. the model year end sales event.
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can we use the water for -- when properly treated, for public consumption? we're not ready to make that decision yet. the threat to human health is returning back to pre. event levels. if not already there now, it is getting there. certainly very optimistic in the near future we can be able to reopen the river. >> colorado governor is speaking right now talking to local leaders in durango, colorado, about the toxic spill in the animus river after surveying the scene there. we're expecting to hear from epa administrator as well. you can see her live. she's having a news conference. let's go to it. >> without having addressed it as quickly as i can because the least of mining wastes in colorado sim pacting not just the state of colorado but it could impact new mexico, utah, the navajo nation as well. it is really a tragic and very
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unfortunate incident and epa is taking responsibility to ensure that that spill is cleaned up president the most important effort that we are ensuring right away is the health and safety of the residents and the visitors near that river. now, we are committed to helping people throughout the four corners region who rely on the rivers for their drinking water, irrigation water, and recreation. and we know how important it is to them. as you may know there are thousands of abandoned mines throughout the west. and epa routinely works with states to clean up these spills. the spill occurred when one of our contractor teams was using heavy equipment to enter the gold king mine. and it's an inactive mine just north of the city of durango. and to begin the process of pumping and treating the contaminated water inside, now, in response to the unfortunate incident we have developed a use -- used the full breadth and depth of the agency to respond. with other partner agencies
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assisting as well. >> it takes time to review and analyze data. i understand people's frustration but we have our researchers and scientists working around the clock. our commitment is to get this right and to make sure that we're protecting public health. thankfully there have been no reported cases of anyone's health being compromised. additionally, from initial sampling results as the plume has advanced, we're seeing -- we're seeing elevated levels and as it moves on we're seeing a downward trajectory towards pre-event conditions. so epa has taken steps to capture and treat the discharge at the mine itself so that we're ideaing the risk of any additional downstream impacts and we have instructed four ponds at the site where we're actually diverting water and treating it to lower the acidity levels and remove the dissolved metals. we've also stood up a unified command center in durango as well as emergency operation
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centers at epa headquarters in d.c. to ensure a seamless and coordinated response in conjunction with all of our local, state, and federal partners. we're look working with local official, water supplies and free water quality testing fordow mess tick drinking water wells along the river. we have been in touch with state leadership as well as congressional delegations and we have kept the white house fully informed. epa is an agency whose core mission is to keep a clean environment and protect public health so it pains me to no end to see that this is happening but we're working tirelessly to respond and we have committed to full review of exactly what happened to ensure that it can never happen again. so with that, i'd like to mv on to the clean power plan. >> and joining me now is bob dean, director of strategic engagement at the natural resources defense counsel. bob, we've known each other a
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long time. i can't even imagine what is going on at the epa right now. how can this happen? i mean, this is some of the most beautiful waterways in our country. it's now heading towards the grand canyon. this is a contractor presumably, whoing in an old mine? >> right, andrea. it is. it's a tragedy. it's a disaster. we'll have to investigate and get the facts. the epa is going to be held to account just like we would hold private industry or other state or federal agencies to account on something like this. what happened was this is a result of pollution that had been left behind by the mining industry decades before the epa was created. and this mine was leaking, up to three million gallons of this toxic water every ten days. the epa was trying to stop that, trying to clean up pollution left behind by a legacy mine from the old days when we didn't have environmental protections in place for our rivers and streams. >> and what happened was the
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contractor did not estimate properly? >> correct. >> how much water was behind that mine. >> correct. he shut down an old mine, ground water from underneath building up in that mine. they did not properly estimate how much water had backed up in there at huge pressure. so when they began moving the rock, dealing with what was capping it, trying to get a pipe in there to get that water out, it blew out like a volcano, 3 million gallons of this horrible stuff. >> and what is in this horrible stuff and what is the damage to fish, to other wildlife, and to humans being able to swim, boat, raft? >> this water contains heavy metals. that's the real problem. we're talking about lead, arsenic, possibly copper. this is what you would expect in that water. and these heavy metals don't deteriorate in the water. they flow downstream. depending on the stream rate flow, they will settle in. they get into the sediment. they can be fed by bottom
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dwellers, it can get in vegetation. animals eat it. it's so it's a threat to wildlife, it's a threat to fish, it's a threat to people who drink that water. >> even when the yellow color recedes because of the mix of water and the flow, the water flow, that metal -- the metallic silt is still going to be there and affect the wildlife. >> that's the long term threat. we see this move down from new mexico into utah and so forth. so it's settles out slowly when it's in fast water. but that is the long-term threat, andrea. and why it's so important, it's a red flag to us because there are more than 600,000 of these abandoned mines out west. many thousands of them built before we had protections in place. they're posing a threat because of this legacy pollution that is locked up in these mines and in thousands of cases, leaking out into our environment. we need to deal with that. we need to priorityize these. we need to put aside resources to deal with it and stop these ticking time bombs before we
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have another disaster like this. >> what about it getting into the well water? >> well water is also a risk because you have porous underground geologic structure and some of this river water can make its way into it so all of wells will need to be sampled, tested, and monitored going forward. >> bob dean, enormous job. as you say, a huge tragedy. thank you so much. thanks for being with us. and tomorrow colorado governor john hickenlooper will be with us to talk about his tour of the contaminated river. up next, hackers making millions after stealing key information from big name corporations. what they stole and how they made all of their money, coming up next with pete williams.
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and we have developing news now from new jersey where u.s. attorneys have uncovered a
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multimillion dollar criminal operation. computer hackers obtaining corporate press statements before their released and using them to make millions and 348s of insider trades. nbc justice correspondent pete williams has the details. pete, this is pretty extraordinary. >> it really is quite clever, andrea. many companies, corporations are required by law to publicly disclose parts of their operations, profits, potential merger, sales and so forth. this is the pr news wire. this is one of the companies that does it so you can see what's on their website right now. something about corell lologic. they get information, draft press releases from many fortune 500 companies and hold them until they're to be announced at a certain point. now, what the fbi says happened here, actually the securities and exchange commission and secret service worked this case. they say these companies got into three companies that -- the hackers, rather, got into three companies that issued press
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releases, stole the draft press releases, put them on servers for traders to get their hands on and traders made trades and made stock transactions based on this insider information before it became public and in the process made something like $30 million in the united states. and today the government indicted three people in ukraine where apparently this thing was based. four people in georgia, that's the u.s. state of georgia, not georgia the country, one person in pennsylvania, and one person in new york, in brooklyn. they say this has been going on for five years. it started in 2010. and they ingeniously got into these companies through the old-fashioned way of phishing. that is to say sending an innocent looking document that an employee clicks on, then they use that or they simply use programs that bruit force try to guess passwords. once they were in these companies that issue press releases they could download 150,000 press releases and they say the traders sifted through
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them and decided to act on 800 of them. making millions at a time in transactions based on this having just a few hours lead time on this information. >> pete williams, boy, it's a real lesson to all of us to be careful about what the click on. >> exactly. >> thank you so much. clever thieves indeed. alleged thieves. and still to come, 11 u.s. rowers and 4 coaches sick in rio de janiero. was it something in the water? but first, hillary's in new hampshire today trying to cool the burn, as they say. you're watching msnbc. why do so many people choose aleve? it's the brand more doctors recommend for minor arthritis pain. plus, just two aleve can last all day. you'd need 6 tylenol arthritis to do that. aleve. all day strong.
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politeness, you know, that the feelings that come out over the internet, you would never say that to somebody standing in front of you. i just see this because occasionally i'm the subject of it, so i know no one is immune from it. >> hillary clinton talking about a town hall in new hampshire. a few moments a guy part of larger town hall on student loans and college affordability. trying to appeal to moderate and liberal democrats who are taking a long look at bernie sanders and senator sanders took his show on the road again on monday in l.a. in the los angeles sports arena a crowd of at least 17,000 people, they say, will these crowds translate into success for sanders? later down the road? joining me now two experts former pennsylvania governor ed rendell and sarah fagan, political director to george w. bush. thank you both so very much. ed rendell, this democratic race on the republican race is
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another whole story but the democratic race has not been as predicted. hillary clinton is having difficulty with crowds, difficulty getting people to, you know, feel passionate about her. and i was in new hampshire yesterday and people are undecided. they're taking a long hard look at bernie sapders. you can say it's because he's next door and the vermont senator, but they're still open to be persuaded. >> i think bernie sapders esan tapping into a level of anger that exists at what's going on in america today, better than anybody on this scene. and interestingly, donald trump's tapping into that same anger over different issues but that same sort of angry voter who doesn't believe that washington or regular politicians can deliver anything of value to them. so i think there's an appeal to that. whether it can last, whether it is broad, it's certainly very passionate and i remember mike
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dukakkakis in the last week in campaign during the first president bush was getting huge crowds. everybody said, we're surging, we're going to win. and then the next day we got clobbered because a huge crowd isn't a large segment of the vote. 17,000 people in california is less than .1 of 1% of the vote that will turn out in the california primary. so you can't be misled by crowds. but clearly bernie is tapping into that resentment about what's going on in america. and it's there. and it's a force to be reckoned with. do i think that bernie sanders is going to be the democratic nominee? no, i don't. do i think that hillary clinton once the campaign gets under way in full force emerges? yes, i do. but it is certainly a phenomenon that both parties are experiencing. >> certainly republicans are experiencing this phenomenon, the trump factor. >> the trump factor, you know, american voters are very frustrated with the political
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system. i agree with governor rendell. voters on the left and the right are arriving at the same place for different reasons. and these two individuals, trump and bernie sanders, very different, but they really personifying people's anger with the system. i do think, though, that these crowds are pretty amazing. i've been around politics a long time. it is unusual this early in a campaign for 26,000 people to show up in a community. particularly for an organization like bernie sanders, which is probably, you know, pretty boots strapped and grass roots oriented. i think the clinton campaign is taking real careful attention to that, they're paying attention to it. and you see a lot of -- i would call it in political parlance, there's an opposition research dump happening on bernie sanders and it's not coming from republicans. it's coming from the clinton campaign. >> and what about jeb bush, because last week hillary clinton was taking him on, first of all, in his home base in
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miami. and going after him, making a lot of people think he was the big threat. then yesterday she's taking on marco rubio. clearly after the debate performance where jeb bush kind of wallpaper, no hits, no run, no errors, but not a standout, i think you would acknowledge here, jeb bush supporter, i believe, marco rubio, aside from the controversy over what he said about abortion, was clearly a politically skilled candidate. >> there was a lot of buzz about marco rubio's performance. jeb did fine. very substantive on his answers. if you look back over time and think about the substance factor i think jeb did quite well in the debate. look, she's naming these candidates because here to now she's been in a race against herself and she hasn't been doing very well. she needs an opponent. and so whether it's jeb bush or marco rubio or john kasich, it's helpful for her to have somebody to debate against because,
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because of her e-mail scandals, because of lingering questions about benghazi, a whole host of issues that have plagued mrs. clinton, she needs an opponent. but i don't think she's going to get one for quite some time. >> ed rendell, is the republican race going to sort itself out or do you think that donald trump is going to be around for a while? >> well, i think donald will be around for longer than any of us suspected. i don't think he will make an early exit. if he stays ahead in the polls. i am mystified, andrea, the fact that he's still ahead in the national polls 23-12 over his nearest competitor after that debate performance tells me everything i know about politics is wrong because it's amazing. so he's got staying power. as long as it's a multi-candidate race, 10, 12, 13, 14 candidates he's going to have his core of voters who don't seem willing to leave him at any point. so i think he's going to be around for a while. will he be the republican
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nominee? no. absolutely not. but he will be in there and he will be shaping the debate. he will be the focal point of the debate. that's not good for the republican party. no ifs, ands, or buts about it. >> ed, in a word, who would hillary clinton be most concerned about facing? which republican? >> well, i think if john kasich could emerge as the general election candidate, he would have a great appeal to independents, he would have a great appeal to conservative democrats, and he might be the person who could keep suburban women in cleveland and cincinnati and philadelphia and pittsburgh and those key suburban area which are determining state-wide elections in toss-up states. >> ed rendell, sarah, thanks very much. and we have a development in the story with we told you about a few minutes ago derning the arrest in ferguson last summer of wesley lowery of the "washington post" and ryan
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reilly of the huffingt ington p facing $1,000 fine and a year in jail. robert mahony, the deputy director has just released a statement saying, quote, u.s. authorities have no business hauling reporters into court for doing their jobs. especially on a world story like ferguson. we are appalled by this judicial intimidation of wesley lowery and ryan reilly and call on st. louis authorities to drop all charges immediately. last night ryan reilly of the "huffing fon po ington post" ha run-in with the police on video. it's been the headline that never wanted. after the concerns about dirty water a dozen americans coming homesick. more on that coming up next. ♪ no student's ever been the king of the campus on day one. but you're armed with a roomy new jansport backpack, a powerful new dell 2-in-1 laptop, and durable new stellar notebooks, so you're walking the halls with varsity level swagger.
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the u.s. rowing team is making its way back from competition in bra slil today after four coaches and 11 athletes came couldn't with
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stomach illnesses at the junior world championships in rio de janiero. the regatta was a test event for next summer's lks less than a year away. while the cause of illness is not known the teames a doctor suspects water pollution is to blame. join meg via skype is u.s. rowing ceo glen merry. glen, what do we know about their illness and what could have caused it and pollution in the water which we know is such an issue? >> yeah. it's a good question. the water quality has been an issue going into the rio test event and is something that our international federation and tirks oc have been monitoring. over, we did have 15 people come down ill over the course of the week that we were there. over several days. not all in one group. and at different times during competition within the same boats. we went into the competition with sanitation protocol in place from washing ore handles and cleaning up after people came in after the water to eating fruits and vegetables that had been cooked and peeled.
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we still managed to have 15 out of the 70 people that were in attendance come down with something. so it's something that we're reviewing and sorting out kind of what our next steps are in preparation for next year's games. >> i know it's hard to determine whether it's something they ate, something they drank, or the water in which they rowed. but you've got the olympic games in a year. and how do you come up with a protocol that's effective now? >> yeah, that's a great question. i mean, rowing is in the united states a clean water sport. it's really important to us. we recently entered into a national partnership with the water keepers alliance because we realized taking care of the waterways is so important. as we look at the opportunities going forward i think more testing is indicated. and international federation has assured us that that's something that they're taking on. there are also surveying all the teams that were down there to assess the amount of exposure that occurred at this test. what it comes down to it, we will have to go back with medical staff and with other
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specialists to determine what's a better way to control exposure to these illnesses when we're down there. we have had illness in previous competitions. we had a team in italy earlier this year that we had a few athletes come down. it's not unique just to rio but this scope of this was larger than we faced in the long time. so it's something that's very much of our concern. the athletes are our top priority. and we'll have to assess what those 45e89 risks are. ultimately the ioc and fisa are responsible for monitoring this and helping make sure that this waterway is safe. >> glenn merry, thank you so much very much. that does it for us, for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." tomorrow on the show republican presidential candidate karly fe fiorina. follow us online. "msnbc live" with thomas roberts is up next.out curity. she'll log in with her smile. he'll have his very own personal assistant. and this guy won't just surf the web.
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