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america's prisons. dangerous, often deadly. there are 2 million people doing time. every day is a battle to survive and to maintain order. >> down on your feet! down! >> this is "lockup." >> in rural indiana stands a maximum security juvenile facility charged with
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rehabilitating some of america's most dangerous teens. >> they don't think. they don't plot. they don't plan. it's whatever's happening right now they respond to that. >> this 91 acre compound is the end of the line for kids who are repeat offenders. the kids other institutions simply can't handle. and it didn't take our cameras long to document why. >> with the restraint chair, you have the restraints for the arms. [ yelling ] >> you need to stop. >> [ bleep ] that! [ bleep ]! >> we're having a hard time getting somebody to come into seg right now. >> [ bleep ]! >> calm down. stop kicking my door. >> stop! stop! stop. >> oh! [ bleep ] [ bleep ]!
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>> told you to stop didn't i? >> don't fight. don't fight. >> relax. >> [ bleep ]! >> just relax. >> put his shackles on. >> you don't have to [ bleep ] bend my hand like that. >> i don't know where he was coming from. he got sent here for a criminal act and intimidation on officers and staff. >> relax. >> i'm relaxed [ bleep ]! >> it's a little scary because you don't know who or what might get hurt. >> we had an offender that went to a hearing for his counselor and everything else to get his level. he didn't get his level he wanted. so this is the reaction he gives. what happened was he was combative and started kicking on the door resisting and becoming aggressive. he was administrated with a
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pepper spray. it's a 30 to 40 second burn for him. really hot like jalapenos. if you bit into one of those, like that but a thousand times greater. >> i didn't do [ bleep ]. nothing! >> once he was secured. the leg irons were replaced with him. and he was placed in the shower for decontamination. >> you're going to get on your feet. do you understand me? >> you're going to walk or we're going to carry you. which one? you going to walk or we going to carry? >> sergeant brian cooley knows how impulsive they can be. >> it's very dangerous for staff. if staff are not on their toes around these kids, staff will get hurt. it's easy for them to get caught up in a situation and have it explode with no notice at all. >> stop. lift your foot up. lift your foot up. >> it's their own time.
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if they want to stay a long time, they will stay. if they want to stay a short time, they will stay a short time. it's all on them. it's how they want to react with themselves. >> as a juvenile you're committed for treatment program of rehabilitation. and there is no time attached to most juvenile sentences. when they come in, there's an intake orientation level. >> for kids as young as 12 years old, time at pendelton begins here at the intake unit. >> everybody comes through the facility comes through here. first. we've seen some that's real timid and scared. you see some that's brash and cocky. it's a variety of attitudes or personalities that come through here. usually in intake a week or two until they find a unit and
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program for you to go to. moyer, come with me this way. let's go ahead and strip down for me. take everything off. turn around. what is that? a brand? is that a gang related star then? >> yes, sir. >> huh? >> yes, sir. >> what gang is it? >> j.d., sir. been locked up in five years. haven't seen my family awhile. your family likes to leave you and you get locked up in trouble. all your friends disappear. you have no social life really. you just have you and your cell mates. that's it. >> staff at pendleton are focused on educating these troubled teens. but intake is just the first step on the road to rehabilitation. >> from that they go into their main core programs. and there are four levels there.
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once they've completed those four levels, they go into transition and after that they go into the release. which is the final level. it's not like a boys' camp. it is like a prison. it's a hard core, hard lock facility. >> the segregation unit is a controlled unit. you know, the people in here they have assaulted staff in the past or they have -- you have overt sexual behavior, stealing, theft. there are some murderers that we have here. they are violent. we've got chaos going on constantly. >> this inmate's rage in general population brought him time in segregation. >> i got in a fight and gave somebody 15 stitches in his eye. i got an anger problem. i don't really think before i
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act. that was the main problem. >> every anarchy of prison you can think of with adults, we have the same sub-systems here. >> with as many as 48 violent teens kept in a confined area of the facility, the segregation unit has a society all its own. where cell phones and ipods are replaced by a fast paced secretive process called cadillacing. >> sometimes it takes awhile. you got to tear a hole in your mat. then put string about it. put some paper around it. make it in a square. slide it out your door. so you can pass food and notes. >> the strings come from the mattresses. they're hard strings so they can't cut you. they can choke people. mostly they're used for trafficking.
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i'm a gas service my nrepresentative. n. i've been with pg&e nine years. as an employee of pg&e you always put your best foot forward to provide reliable and safe service and be able to help the community. we always have the safety of our customers and the community in mind. my family is in oakland, my wife's family is in oakland so this is home to us. being able to work in the community that i grew up in, customers feel like friends, neighbors and it makes it a little bit more special. together, we're building a better california. in the unpredictable confines of pendelton's juvenile segregation unit, staff must always be prepared for violence. 19-year-old ulysses sanders seasoned shy about the demons that brought him here. >> locked up four years. beat up my momma's boyfriend and took his money. >> he says his uncontrollable
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anger comes on without warning. he hopes school and training at pendelton will control his rage. two years ago before major changes were made in security, sanders was part of this attack on staff. >> we was all in the room. and then one came out for the shower. that was before it was all locked down like this. >> he ran over here and grabbed the keys from the officer. and ran back to the other side and started opening doors. >> door violation. >> that's when it all went out of control. >> door violation. >> came out the room and started throwing buckets and some people had mop sticks, swinging mop sticks at staff. damaged stuff. i don't know.
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it just build up. when it's happening, you don't really think about it. i don't regret it. i just accept it and move on. >> don't let the word juvenile fool you. most of these offenders have committed adult crimes. you have some offenders you'd like to have the nice streak about them, but the thing you've got to remember is they're put here for a reason. >> you don't got to touch me, man. >> it changed on a day to day basis with them. you'll have good behavior for a month, two months. something happens to them and the good behavior is shot. they'll be one of the worst persons you've ever had. that could be any given day. >> what other kind of risk factors will you have? >> with school and counseling mandatory, mike dempsey also hopes to give juvenile offenders an option other than crime once they're released. >> we've been working on a program called the future
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soldier program. essentially what it would do is identify offenders in our population who would qualify to be a future soldier. the idea is to be able to release them directly from the facility to the military service without there being any delay or transition in place. >> patience is key for staff in order to turn troubled kids around. >> we had, for example, a couple offenders awhile back. they acted like they was committing suicide and everything else. we went in on them, they're not really committing suicide. they're trying to hurt staff. you don't want to see it, but it does happen. >> the individuals who choose to work here and who stay, who stick it out through the difficult times of working with these adolescents, i say if they can do this job, they can do any job. this job will challenge everything about you.
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>> for some kids, it takes more than one stint behind bars to learn a lesson. 18-year-old michael brehm is is completing in pendelton. >> i was here for nine and a half months. i came back for the same problem. over the counter cough medicine problem. done a lot of that stuff. >> inside pendelton, military-like structure keeping brehm on the straight and narrow. after being locked up for more than two years, michael hopes the six months he spent in the substance abuse program will give him the skills to stay out for good. >> my groups have helped me. the substance abuse groups, they helped me think of things that could keep my time occupied.
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reasons why i should stay sober. i'm 18 years old now. time for me to be an adult, to grow up. done doing all my old things. >> even though michael has completed his program, he still has to convince pendelton's administrative review committee he's ready for life on the outside. >> he administrative review committee is a process that all the juvenile offenders have to go through. it's like parole board for juveniles. so it's a high stakes process where the juvenile offender has to convince the board that they are ready to go back into society. >> you guys ready? how are you? >> pretty good. >> the decision of the arc is probably one of the most important decisions that we make here. we're actually sending this offender back out into your community. and so we take this very, very seriously. >> this is the administrative review committee. we'll introduce ourselves to you. >> some of the juvenile offenders go home, and some of
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them don't. we just don't ever know. >> haven't been this nervous since court. i don't know. this pretty much decides my freedom. >> doing good, doing good. >> all right, mr. brehm. this is the administrative review committee. are you nervous? >> yes. actually, yes, ma'am, i am. >> you should be. this is a big step. okay? >> the committee does not have a conversation prior to the offender coming in. we want to be very objective about the process. so we let the offender come in. at that point then we ask all the questions. >> what i like to do is start off by having you share why you're in the department of correction. what did you do? why are you locked up? >> minor consumption, public intoxication, and receiving stolen property. >> so this was your first offense? >> no, it wasn't. my first offense was back in 2002.
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i got caught stealing a pack of cigarettes. i was only 13 years old. bad little kid back in the day. all together i was locked up for eight and a half months. >> the first time? >> right. then i got out and i'm only, like, i think i had just turned 14 years old or 14 in a few months. so i'm still a kid. one night we was getting drunk over there again and i got in trouble for another minor consumption. i came over here. i was only 15 when i got out. i was this young teenager kid with no responsibilities at all. >> how old are you now? >> 18. >> i'm going to have you stop telling me your story. quite frankly you're making a lot of excuses. okay? you're 18 years old now. >> right. >> so all that doesn't matter anymore. >> i've thought about that a lot. >> i'm still talking. >> i'm sorry.
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>> it doesn't matter anymore. so now i need for you to tell me what you have learned and how you're going to use what you've learned without any excuses. coming up, michael brehm takes on the review committee. >> i used the same word that the judge wrote on here. the judge wrote on here no excuses. >> and the guards in seg face a true test of patience. >> you'll be decontaminated when you calm down. something different. this summer, challenge your preconceptions and experience a cadillac for yourself. ♪ the 2015 cadillac srx. lease this from around $339 per month, or purchase with 0% apr financing.
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offenders at pendleton juvenile correction facility serve six months to years behind bars. charles taylor has been locked up for a year. >> i started selling drugs. started selling drugs hard. and the only way i could eat was rob somebody. so i'd go around robbing people, selling cocaine, marijuana, x pills. just trying to live life. that's what i thought it was.
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>> drugs weren't taylor's only problem. he's also a former gangster disciple member. inside pendleton he's in one of the riskiest programs. the gang unit. >> on the streets we was taught to smash on sight. beat them up and take what they got. we was taught to hate them. most people want things that they ain't never had before. and they believe money can get you anything. it ain't about bringing you happiness. it's about you want to be on a higher level than the average person. you want to be somebody that you're not made to be. >> education is the key. whether it's getting your g.e.d. or going to college. the biggest factor that's going to tell whether you come back to prison or not is education. >> director eric courtney oversees the program that puts rival gang members side by side. >> what kind of things do you want to teach your daughter that
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maybe your father wasn't around to teach you? what kind of things different do you want to do with yours? >> teach her to get an education. >> g.d. and the vice lords, they wouldn't talk. in here since they're isolated they have to. they realize they're the same. they're more the same than they were different. maybe they were brought up different in the rival gangs. but they're really more similar than they are different. >> i got a little brother. if he got locked up, i'll feel i was a bad role model because he followed my footsteps. >> me too. >> i was very nervous. i was scared but on the outside try to make myself look tough. let them know i'm not playing games. it wasn't what i thought it would be. we found respect up in here. we have to do something in life rather than just kill each other. that we could find a way to throw the gangs in the trash. become something in life.
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>> finally made it home. >> yeah. >> how happy, man? i'm going to write you though. i got your address. >> you staying you're going to stalk me? >> leaving today, man. >> after 12 months behind bars and hundreds of hours of counseling, today taylor is scheduled for release. >> this is my room or my old cell. call it by eight by six. it's got 175 bricks up in here. all you can do is count. and i'd just look out the window, my little window. think about the future. it's been awhile, you know? no shackles, no handcuffs, go home. see all my relatives. >> in the year that charles has been locked up, he has not seen his mother. >> i just told her not to come visit me. i figure if you don't get visits you be desperate to come home. >> y'all keep your head up.
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>> in a way i'm scared to see, you know, it's been a long time. get a little emotional when i see her. i just want to be there for my momma. be a better son now. i'm just proud of myself. i'm ready to go home. >> your mom didn't come yet? >> i ain't seen her. >> me too. >> good afternoon. >> as the ceremony gets started, this happy day becomes stressful for charles who still hasn't spotted his mother. >> and before i give out the certificates, our assistant superintendent would like to say a few words. >> first of all on behalf of the facility and superintendent dempsey i want to thank you all for being here today to join in the celebration for these young gentlemen. >> congratulations.
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>> freedom is just moments away. >> all right. change into your street clothes. >> i got my g.e.d. now i can take a step into my life to make my momma proud. i feel good about that. >> stay out of trouble, man. >> charles' first test of how he handles pressure comes a little sooner than he might have wanted. >> his mother called around 11:00 and she lives three hours from here. so we thought that was strange that the person would wait until an hour before you're supposed to be here to say my car broke down. i can't come. so we encouraged her to find another ride, try to get up here. >> i talked to her on friday, but i don't know what's going on right now. she should be down here any minute now. >> be patient. >> i am. >> keep it together.
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>> if she can't get here today, he'll go back into his unit. and just go back to being one of the juvenile offenders until his family gets here. >> try to get ahold of his parent. find out what she's going to do and communicate that back to me or the superintendent so we can make a plan. all right? >> okay. >> how do you feel about that? >> i'm cool with it. >> okay. she'll be here, don't you think, today? >> yeah. >> okay. let's make this thing happen then. >> okay. i'll get your clothes. we'll have you change. >> sometimes it can be a couple days before they can get a ride. >> this one right here. >> okay. >> i had a feeling something like this was going to happen. coming up, more frustration for charles taylor and the pendleton staff. >> she must have it turned off. it went straight to voice mail. >> meanwhile, michael brehm fears retribution from his cell mates. >> i've seen a guy scheduled to go home in three days and
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indiana's pendleton juvenile
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correctional facility is the end of the line in the juvenile system for kids who have committed serious offenses. >> stop. >> [ bleep ]! [ bleep ]! >> told you to stop, didn't it? >> don't fight, don't fight. >> relax! >> relax! >> i told you [ bleep ] [ bleep ]! >> extreme anger issues haunt most juvenile offenders who end up at this security facility. >> we're going to pick you up. we need you on your feet. you going to walk or are we going to carry you? which one? huh? answer me? >> you going to walk or we going to carry you? >> i'm going to walk, man! >> okay. calm down. >> once he does calm down, we can stand there and read him his administrative warning, then we'll continue with the decontamination. as long as he's combative like that, that's on him. we'll decontaminate him as long as he's non-combative.
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>> officer linda frisby monitors from inside the control room. >> i learned if you show no fear, they don't bother you. they will intimidate officers that are not strong. >> as guards wait for the team to comply and take a shower, officer russell anderson explains the effects of the pepper spray. >> it creates a lot of water in the eyes, mucus forms in the nose. can't breathe. shortness of breath. it just fills up with everything. it's a safe, effective way for them to, you know, be restrained. there's no long-term effects. it's 99% safe. >> i spent 20 years in the united states navy. i'm retired. and this is the hardest job i've ever had. >> open your eyes. wash it in your eyes. wash up your nose. >> not everybody can stand there and preach.
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he's going to be a person we have in there far long time. >> he's going across the hall. he is. i mean, this is his last strike. >> the safety and security is my main priority. everything else is second. what happens with an offender like that, you have to snap it off. the other offenders will see that and start acting the same. it's like a fire. we're searching for compliance out of them. one way or another, we will get compliance. >> understanding the mood swings of juvenile offenders is one of the challenges for staff. just an hour after this intense scene, the calm teen talks freely with guards. while officers are trained to keep staff and offenders safe, re-enforcement is close by in the rare case of an emergency. >> once we get past a point of physical force, we move into chemical weapons. this is pepper spray. we've got the stream which is used on individuals.
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and then we've got the fogger which we have to fog spaces like seg cells or things like that. the next weapon system is a pepper ball gun. it fires a 57 caliber pepper ball. we can shoot off the walls and fog an area if we didn't get to an offender. this is similar to the tear gas you see police use. where if there's a large area they need to effect to move people back and control the movement, this is what we're going to employ. and finally this is actually a riot control weapon. it fires a wood baton round. it's skipped into the offenders' legs. it is designed to discourage offenders from doing what they're doing and get them to move back. >> unfortunately for staff, they're not the only ones armed. >> door violation.
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>> home made weapons of every kind are routinely confiscated from clever teens. >> what we got? >> glass. >> was this wrapped around it? >> uh-huh. >> is that how it was found? >> yes. >> thank you. slow your roll, gentlemen! the dish room's hot. that is all. this is a fire alarm. we're going to go ahead and move to the fire exit. on the off chance this is actually a fire. stop running. >> everybody go to the right side! >> got everybody out of here? >> yeah. >> if there's a lot of steam in there, it'll set off the alarm. we'll clear this in a couple minutes and it will be back to usual. this right here, this does warrant a little bit of concern. probably cut somebody with it. a handle there. these offenders are anything but dumb. educationally they may be
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lacking, but as far as ingenuity and creativity, guys are off the chart. most of the things we have you'd look at every day and never think it's to kill you. >> a knife from a clipboard. a puncture weapon from eyeglasses. a blade made from the metal hanger of a file folder. even a home made tattoo gun made from ordinary items found in the facility. >> it's difficult to stay one step ahead of the inmates. they are creative. >> every day the officers in seg walk a thin line between managing a teen's harmful behavior and adding fuel to the fire. >> he's got a rope in his room. probably five feet long. he's working on getting rid of. >> officer daley, 44. three control, please.
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you need to shut hancock's water off. he's making a rope and flushing it down the toilet. >> he's trying to stuff in the toilet. so we turn the water off. >> the first thing you've got to keep in mind is they are in prison. and they're not in for jaywalking or anything. they are violent. so we do have some dangerous kids. but in all, they're still teenagers. and you got to understand that they are teenagers. >> can you please turn my water back on? >> why are you trying to stop up the commode? >> he'll have it off the rest of the day. >> i'm not going to tear it out because he'll scratch at him and tearing everything up. this is a reoccurring thing. he'll go out for rec today or tomorrow. when he does i'll rip everything out of his room.
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>> after the destructive inmate is removed from his cell, sergeant russell anderson and officer randy daley conduct a search. >> he tore open the pillow, cut open the corner. >> nice. you're not supposed to have anything like that here. >> as you can see by officer daley, there's a lot on the wall. security threat groups. it's gang-related graffiti. they get wrote up for destruction of state property. they lose their levels which pushes them back farther. >> cadillac. >> they're impulsive. they think about right here and now. >> i'll give you a second chance. don't plug the toilet.
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coming up, two long time offenders learn if their days behind bars are finally coming to an end. >> i think there's a chance they could ask me to stay longer. i am nervous i might lose control and get angry, do something i might regret. >> and will charles' mother come through? >> i know they on their way this time. plaque psoriasis. isn't it time to let the real you shine through? introducing otezla, apremilast. otezla is not an injection, or a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. some people who took otezla saw 75% clearer skin after 4 months. and otezla's prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't take otezla if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. otezla may increase the risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts,
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after serving six months at the pendleton juvenile correctional facility on drug charges, release day has finally arrived for 18-year-old charles taylor. all he needs is his mother's signature and he will be free. >> if she can't get here today, he'll go back into his unit.
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sometimes it can be a couple of days before they can get a ride. >> this one right here. >> okay. >> i had a feeling that something like this was going to happen. >> unfortunately for them, though, she missed his graduation ceremony and charles is now back in his prison uniform. >> this is one of the more frustrating aspects of working in a juvenile facility. obviously he's done everything that he needed to do in order to be released from the program. i'm sure his heart's been ripped out. in his mind the parents didn't even care enough to come and make sure he got picked up today. so i'm frustrated. i'm sure he's really frustrated as well. >> now charles is unsure where his mother is and when she'll show up to get him. >> taylor's parents aren't here. >> hope they didn't get lost. >> hopefully not. >> we got a little confused as to which parent was almost here. we have two offenders scheduled for release today. both sets of parents are on their way here, however, they haven't arrived yet.
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we thought offender taylor's mother was almost here. it wound up being offender johnson's mother who was almost here. >> i'm not going to rush her through it. as long as she get down here to get me, i'll be fine with that situation. >> let's try her again. she must have it turned off. it went straight to voice mail. >> as long as she get down here though. >> she'll be here. >> the captain suspect the only one sweating. staff throughout the facility are nervous about what comes next for charles. >> charles is obviously frustrated. he was worried about this before. i think he's had some issues with mother coming through. not only being there. so he's upset. he's worried. it's obviously frustrating. we built this kid up to do this and you get home. follow the rules, work this program, make some changes so you can go home. and they've done the work. they followed the rules. they worked the program. they've done everything they had to do. and then mother doesn't come
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through. it's no fault of their own. >> i'm in the captain's office. it's where most people don't go. i feel privileged. chilling with el captain. head honcho. head of all heads. >> that's enough. you're going home. we already signed the papers. >> on the way home. >> some students when they come to me, school is either a good place or a bad place. and they're either don't care or want to care or they're working on getting out of here as quickly as possible. charles is one of those students who came to me ready to do what he needed to do to get out of this facility. and i think he has leadership potential. i hope, i pray that he does well. because he really could. he could do wonderful things. >> while charles taylor makes the best of a wait that has already stretched to more than five hours, 18-year-old michael
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brehm continues his grueling interview with the committee that will decide his fate. >> i haven't been this nervous since court. i don't know. this pretty much decides my freedom. >> program director chris blessinger cuts to the core of the problems. >> you and i have had conversations before. one of the conversations has been about the seriousness about the extensive history you have using substances. >> right. >> and if you look back on a lot of your charges, a lot of those charges were when you were high or when you were drunk. so what is going to be different this time when you get out? >> i have a lot more access to things when i get out like groups. i'm going to go to aa and na meetings. i'm going to try my hardest. like i said, i'm an adult now. i really have to change. and if i continue this, then i'm going to be dead or i'm going to be in a wheelchair. and that scares me.
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it really does. i know the temptation is going to be out there in my face. >> does anybody in your family drink or smoke or use drugs? >> my mom. she quit drinking. she quit drinking for me. because i asked her. i was like i know you like to have your cocktails every now and then. do me a favor and stop that. she was like she told me she respects that and she'll do it for me. >> you're exactly right. if you're around it, you're going to be tempted. >> okay, michael. i'm going to have you go in that room and wait for a second while we have a discussion. then we'll have you come back out. thank you. >> what's going on? >> everything sounded good. i answered every question straightforward the best i could. told her what my plans are when i get out. captain said i've done a good job. miss blessinger agreed. they said they're proud i got my g.e.d. on my own free will.
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hope it goes well. >> i think he's a party animal, what do you think? >> definitely. >> back in the captain's office, charles taylor's wait for his mother enters its sixth hour. >> all right. i'll see if i can't get hold of his mother and see how far out she is or if she's hung in traffic. okay, bye. let's try her again. >> i feel my momma getting close. i feel it in my heart. the best part about it. the heart. >> kicked over to voice mail again. >> try the 736 number. and my sister. tell her -- call the phone. call my mother's phone. and see where they located and she can call you back. >> what's your sister's name? >> chirelle. excited to see her. she been there through thick and thin. always going to be that way.
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i've been through more stressful obstacles. i feel overcoming this with ease. >> he has nothing left to prove. she has guaranteed she'll be here. if she won't be here, i'll drive him home myself. >> no pickup. >> it's cool. coming up, this three-time offender learns his fate. >> if there are no further questions, we'll take a vote on the recommendation that michael be promoted to release phase. >> and a long day comes to an end for charles taylor. >> with mother not pulling through on this, the kid regresses often, there's no home to go to. there's no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. different. this summer, challenge your preconceptions and experience a cadillac for yourself.
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the best way i can describe this place for someone that's never been here is just imagine
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being locked in a room with 23 people that do not like you. it's the best way i can describe this place. >> it's been nearly an hour since michael brehm took his best shot at convincing the administrative review committee she should be released from pendleton. >> this makes a difference for the community. it's not just ours. we do second guess ourselves sometimes. and have a heart for the offender, but we can't let that be the deciding factor. it can't be. >> at the ripe age of 18, brehm has spent a total of two years behind bars. >> hopefully people don't come here. this is one place they don't want to go. >> okay, michael. do you have any questions for us? >> it's very stressful. hopefully if i get accepted i'll only have two weeks left. >> i'm actually looking at a piece of paper from hendricks county. i used the same word that the judge wrote on here. the judge wrote on here no excuses. okay?
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see that? >> right. >> so i think something that you need to start thinking about is all these things that you've done while you were young, you didn't get enough treatment, or you were hanging out with the wrong people, or whatever. you're 18 years old now. all right? so all of that doesn't matter anymore. >> for us as the committee, we have the opportunity then to sit back and look at everything that's happened over the course of months or years that the offender's been here. and from that make the right decision. are we always right? no. >> if there are no further questions, we'll take a vote of the administrative review committee on the recommendation that michael be promoted to the release phase. >> i support. >> i agree. >> i agree. >> i support. >> okay. congratulations. you have your promotion. >> thank you. you have no idea how much this means to me. i feel like a thousand pounds has been lifted off of my shoulders. i feel really good.
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i mean, i haven't had this good of a feeling in seventh months. >> in two weeks, michael brehm will be allowed to leave. but not even that is a guarantee of freedom. for most of the day, charles taylor has been waiting for his mother to arrive and sign the papers that will free him. despite several false alarms, charles has not lost hope. >> i got a feeling she's probably somewhere like kokomo. she should be down here soon. >> just waiting on mom. >> enjoy your first meal. >> stay out of trouble. >> all right. >> after eight excruciating hours, charles' faith and patience is about to pay off. >> your mom's here. let's go out and meet her. >> all right.
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>> hey. how you doing? >> i'm all right. >> i'm happy to see my child. i had so many things go wrong during the first course of the day. i'm grateful. i'm happy. i'm ecstatic. yes. that's all right. good deal. good deal. i am so proud of you. i brought you a cake too. glad to see he did something right. >> no more jumpsuit charles. time to put on some jeans. >> it's been a long, hard road for him. sometimes you got to take that long road to get to the good part. >> freedom, huh, baby? going to keep it this time? >> yeah, i'm going to keep it this time.
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>> i'm glad to have my child back. that's the main thing. going to be all right, baby? >> yeah, i'm going to be all right. >> keep up with your plans. >> good luck. bye-bye. >> no looking back. >> charles, pull your pants up. >> we going to get him a belt. >> charles taylor is one of my favorite kids who went through this program. he wants to be a navy s.e.a.l. i think he could be a great one. i have a lot of hope for him. i hope he keeps in contact with us so i know how he's doing. >> feel good seeing my mom, man. i ain't seen her in a long time. long time. >> for charles taylor and michael brehm, a change in mind-set and attitude is evident after months of intensive rehab at pendleton. but tomorrow staff will start all over again with the 300 teens who still remain behind bars.
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