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the town and they'll have a better chance of getting that help if governor snyder supports their disaster declaration because that could open the door to federal help. governor snyder said they sent representatives from the michigan state police and said they'll talk to them about it. the governor's office would very much like to mention the $10 million to they allocated to try to fix this problem as for whether governor snyder is going to block or support their disaster of a state of emergency, they just say they have not received it. this is a michigan disaster, but honestly it's starting to feel like it's no longer flint or michigan waiting for his answer on this anymore. it's starting to feel like it's the whole country. watch this space. >> good evening, lawrence. >> i was watching your show
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tonight. >> there's a word i never heard you use before. i can't think of how many times i've heard you use yiddish before, but this one was really really striking. i am going to try in the next 60 minutes to clean things up around here. and not use that word. not quote donald trump when it comes to that word at all. just not once. >> well, i wish you the best. >> i don't know if i can. but that is my. ambition for the hour. see if i can do it. thank you, rachel. >> well, if you're wondering why the yiddish word for penis has never been used in if presidential politics before, it's because donald trump has never run for president before. >> donald trump made hillary
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clinton the target of a series of vulgar attacks. >> he used a crude yiddish term for the male reproductive anatomy. >> in reference to hillary clinton's loss to president obama in 2008. >> i didn't know there was a ver b u b use of it. >> trump is purposely trying to fail. >> what a schmuck. >> this is his "springtime for hitler." >> there's never been so 34 stop and gap moments. >> including mocking her for her bathroom break during this weekend's democratic debate. >> i know where she went. it's disgusting i don't want to talk about it. >> two days before christmas, lighten up, man. >> we shouldn't let anybody bully his way into the presidency. because this is not who we are as americans. >> if you took away the white supremacists from the for donald trump support base. if you took away all of the
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impeachment who believed president obama is not a legal citizen of the united states, if you took away the people who believe barack obama is a muslim, donald trump would be polling in single digits. he would not be a factor in this presidential campaign and would soon be going the way of bobby jindal and lindsey graham. but instead, the believer of lies have made donald trump the front-runner for the presidential nomination and he has made himself america's vulgarian in chief. >> everything that's been involved in to hillary has been losses. you take a look. even her race to obama, she was going to beat obama. i don't know who would be worse. i don't know. how does it get worse. she was favored to win and she got schlunged. she lost. >> for 24 hours now, donald trump has been criticized for the rather unpresidenal use of
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the yiddish word for penis, a word that's impossle for lifetime new yorkers not to understand. and now donald trump has mounted his defense using h customary defensive ic, a tweet. in which he tries to redefine the yiddish term that no presidential candidatend no candidat council or even bronx borough president has ever used in a campaign. there is america's loudest vulgarian trying to redefine vulgar, trying to tell us what is and isn't vulgar. we reached dr. ruth wisse tonight who told us, quote, the word is a yiddish vulgarism. vulgar yiddish term for penis. donald trump had more to say about hillary clinton last night and revealed all the policy
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thinking that went through his head when he was watching the democratic debate. >> what happened to her? i'm watching the debate and she disappeared. where did she go? where did he go? i thought she quit. i thought she gave up. where did she go. they had to start the debate without her? phase two. i know where she went. it's disguing. i don't want to talk about it. no, it's too disgusting. don't say it, it's disgusting. we want to be very, very straight-up, okay? >> donald trump who apparently has not gone to the bathroom since he became a presidential candidate is still the republican front-runner. a new quinnipiac shows just how embarrassed america would be to have a disgusting vulgarian as president of the united states. the poll shows that 50% of registered voters say they would
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be embarrassed if donald trump became president. 59% of women would be embarrassed to see the vul ggarn be the commander-in-chief. the embarrassment question was not asked about any of the other potentially embarrassing presidential candidates. ted cruz right behind him and within the margin of error at 24%. marco rubio is at 12. ben carson at 10, chris christie at 6 and jeb bush at 4. joining us now, david frum, senior editor for atlantic. also with us, david korn for mother jones, and msnbc political analyst and wendy davis, former member of the texas state senate and a hillary clinton supporter. senator daifts, first to you.
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on your reaction to what donald trump said last night about hillary clinton. >> just when we saw him hit the lowest he could go, he hits lower again. obviously, this is not an issue for hillary clinton. this rolls right off her back, she's tough, she can take it. but from my perspective, the reason this is damaging for the republican party, number one, we have not heard any of the other candidates repudiate those remarks, but it speaks volumes for that matter's perspective about women. and for me as a mother of two young women, i think about them looking at a person like donald trump possibly sitting in the oval office and his disparaging comments about women and what that means for the way that women in this country will feel about their president. this is not a person who belongs in that oval office, no question about it. >> jennifer palmeri tweeted, we
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are not responding to trump, but everyone who understands the humiliation, the degrading language inflicts on all women should respond to this. >> they're not responsible for what donald trumps ha to say any more than any other individual. >> let's just stipulate no republican candidate is responsible for anything. no democratic candidate is responsible for anything. how should they respond as human beings, as husbands, as fathers of daughters, as yous human beings in this world. how should they respond.
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when you are president, every day in the era of social media it will be more intense. h h he said he didn't think it was necessary to comment on everything that happens at any campus. it's important for people to understand where they are goimg and why they are doing it and not to let him run their campaigns. he's obviously not running his own. they can't let him run theirs, too. >> let's listen to jeb bush's response. he's the one run we do have a clear response from. let's listen to him. >> it's not a sign of strength to insult people with profanities. it's not a serious thing.
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>> does it play into her ability -- >> she's great at being the victim. you know, this whole enhancer victimology status. this is what she loves doing. trump is not going to be president because he says these things. it turns people off. for crying out loud, we're two days before christmas. lighten up, man. >> so david korn, that's the best you could get from a republican was disagreement with trump but make sure there's an attack on hailry clinton within that. >> well, i think trump is driving his fellow republicans mashugina over all that he's causing them. they don't know how to respond. david frum has a point, they shouldn't have to respond to everything. but, you know, ted cruz played foo footsy with a republican banish shoe. if republicans don't start trying to address trump's hold on the party, nay refer -- and
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they had a good piece in atlantic about this, they may lose any chance to challenge him down the road. if they take him on in the vulgarian side of trump, on the policy side of trump, he is the leader and they're going to have to do that. the only problem is taking trump on means taking on a good portion of the gop base. anywhere between 20 and 35%. and gop elites, the donors and the cabinets don't seem to have the heart to do that. >> let's listen to what bernie sanders said about this. >> donald trump is very upset, very hard for him. but he has discovered that women go to the bathroom. and it's been very upsetting for him. but i've got to be honest with you, i've got to be honest with you. got to lay it out on the table.
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i also went to the bathroom. >> a pom r poll shows 630% of women would be embarrassed to have donald trump as president. how might this embarrassment affect others in this presidential field. >> i do think it's important when donald trump, who is speaking purportedly for the republican party, certainly in the view of a lot of people who are watching what's going on in the primary right now, when he's making disparaging comments about women like this, if they don't disassociate themselves from that, it's as though they're accepting that that language is okay. i think it threatens to color the entire republican presidential primary candidates
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with that. and i think it has and will if they don't separate themselves from it. >> i want to listen to what hillary clinton said earlier today in clarifying her statements about donald trump and how isis will use him. >> if you go on arab television, as we have, and if you look at what is being blasted out with video of mr. trump being translated into arabic, no muslims coming to the united states, other kinds of derogatory, defamatory statements, it is playing into the hands of the violent jihadists. there's nothing they want more than to be able to claim that the united states is against islam and against muslims.
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>> being very specific about isis making videos that features trump, it has not been accurate, not true. and she has, you know, refined the sentiment, which i think is accurate and quite important. for trump to call him a liar, this is a little ridiculous considering this is a guy who predicted bin laden when he didn't. he said he saw videos of people celebrating 9/11 when that didn't happen. he said he made friends with putin in the green room during "60 minutes" when he was in new york and putin was in moscow. when it comes to lie, trump is really not in a strong position to make that accusation against anybody else in this race. >> there's no greater thrill a pathological liar has than calling other people liars. thank you for joining us to
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fight. finally, my plea to include bernie sanders has been heard. a new poll has that matchup. and it is very good news for bernie sanders. and edward snowden says hillary clinton's idea to have tech companies cooperate with government surveillance is, his word, terrifying. and later, after a year of intense political and violent attacks against planned parenthood, support for abortion rights in america is increasing even among republicans.
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>> here's what ronald reagan's daughter said about the presidential campaign. >> my father would be so appalled at what's going on.
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and he would be so appalled, i think, probably if ronald reagan came along right now, i don't think the republican party would accept him. >> up next, bernie sanders goes one-on-one against donald trump in a poll, finally. ♪ [ male announcer ] pain not sitting too well? burning to feel better? itching for relief? preparation h offers the most maximum strength solutions for all hemorrhoid symptoms. from the brand doctors recommend most. preparation h. don't stand for hemorrhoids. from the brand doctors recommend most. ♪ (vo) some call it giving back. we call it share the love.
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donald trump. hillary clinton beats donald trump 47 to 40%. but bernie sanders beating donald trump by double digit, 51% to 38%. 13 points. that means that there are some trump voters in that poll who would switch to bernie sanders if bernie sanders were the democratic nominee. how can that possibly be? >> i don't have a super pac. >> i'm self-funding. i've got to compete with these guys. i'm all self-funding. >> today a handful of super wealthy campaign contributors have enormous influence over the political process, while their lobbyists determine much of what goes on in congress. >> politicians are controlled by their donors and special interests and lobbyists. >> our trade policies for decades, nafta, kafta, the tpp,
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has been a disaster for working families. >> the tpp is a horrible deal. it is a deal that is going to lead to nothing but trouble. it's a deal that was designed for china to come in as they always do, through the backdoor and totally take advantage of everyone. >> the greed of wall street is destroying this economy and it's destroying the lives of millions of americans. >> these bankers are not the nicest people in the world. just don't feel bad. somebody says you hurt the bank. i said the bank is vicious. >> joining us now is david washburn, a political analyst for the cook political report. i was pretty surprised to see this overlap, apparent overlap in that poll of trump supporters and bernie sanders supporters. what do you make of it? >> me, too. >> i think we're about to enter a period of polling deprivation before the campaign season
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enters sensory overload. but it's funny, donald trump and bernie sanders have about the same share of support within their respective primary fields. the difference is that hillary clinton is at about 60% of the vote in the democratic primary. donald trump's opposition is split at least five or six different ways. so the question is, will the republican, particularly college educated republicans consolidate around one trump alternative or potentially one cruz alternative i particularly new hampshire on february 9 should accelerate that process, given what we know about past republican primaries. but hey, it's going to be a tight squeeze for republicans here. >> and david korn, one of the great lost facts in campaign season so far is in terms of actual voter support, bernie sanders has as much, or in many polls more than donald trump, because donald trump has, you know, 25% of republicans.
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there it is in the poll. i mean, this is a fascinating to see how much he beats donald trump by. >> and bernie just set a record by, i think, going over 2 million small donors, far outbeating the record obama set. that's a pretty big deal for a grassroots campaign. but, you know, lawrence, my friend, to put a little droplet of cold water on your enthusiasm about this head to head poll, basically everybody in the universe knows donald trump and has a very strong opinion of him one way or the other. the issue with bernie, and i like his positions and i think he's done very well in this campaign, is that he has yet to go into a barrage 200, 300, $400 million of negative ads calling him a socialist, which would
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happen should he be lucky enough to get the nomination on the democratic side. and so until he goes through that sort of process, it's really hard to sort of evaluate how he would do in a general election against trump or anybody else. but clearly, you know, he does have democratic support and support amongst independents and even amongst republicans who go for that economic populism. >> well look, my enthusiasm is simply for the fact that a pollster has recognized that bernie sanders is in the race. they've been doing these one-on-one matchups with just hillary and the republicans. and it doesn't make sense not to do the same thing with the guy who has the same amount of support as donald trump has. it just happens to be on the democratic side. but david, we haven't seen any -- we swrnt seen any negative ads really run against donald trump either. and it seems to me the capacity for negative ads against donald trump is greater. there's richer material there than for any candidate who has ever run, including
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self-proclaimed socialist bernie sanders. >> i would say the question over the next month or so is whether you see trump or cruz beginning to engage in a back and forth that either prolongs their mutual destruction in their campaign. bernie sander, i think his main effect in the race right now is exposing hillary's enthusiasm, gaps, her weakness in splarly academic centers across the country, in which barack obama energized in a lot of key states to build his majorities in very close contests in the electoral college. while i don't think he's going to come within range of the nomination, i do think he will cause a spotlight to shine on some of hillary's problems entering the general election. >> but david korn, what about that theory that even a big front-runner like hillary clinton needs batting practice
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out there in primary, and that running against someone like bernie sanders, if she beats him, only strengthens her. >> i think that's right. i think if he wasn't there, then she would be at 98%, martin o'malley would be at 2%, whatever it might be. and the focus is so much on her, when she's not really doing anything but campaigning. now there's a little bit of a story line, what's going to happen in new hampshire. trump is taking a lot of attention away, which is not bad at this point in time. i think in the modern election world, to be in the spotlight for a year and a half, two years, bhafr it might be as a front runner, is really hard to sustain for anybody of any ideology in either party. the fact that she's mixing it up with bernie, that creates a little bit of a drama there. the fact that trump is just attacking her or attacking anybody draws attention away. i think right now after that sort of difficult spring and summer she had, things are probably where her campaign would like them to be in terms of the overall picture of the
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campaign. >> yeah. and she's getting all this practice with the attacks. even the refinement that we saw in the way that she went after trump over isis and recruitment and all of that in the last 48 hours, it's much better to get that stuff worked out now, rather than later in the general. we're out of time for this segment. thank you both very much for joining me tonight. really appreciate it. coming up, now it's edward snowdenver sus hillary clinton. and wendy davis will be back with us to discuss the new poll showing increasing support for abortion rights in america including among republicans. proud of you, son. ge! a manufacturer. well that's why i dug this out for you. it's your grandpappy's hammer and he would have wanted you to have it. it meant a lot to him... yes, ge makes powerful machines. but i'll be writing the code that will allow those machines to share information with each other. i'll be changing the way the world works. (interrupting) you can't pick it up, can you? go ahead.
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because we should fit into your life. not the other way around. >> on your smart phone today, iphone, there's likely health information, financial information, there are intimate conversations with your family or your co-workers, there's probably business secrets. and you should have the ability to protect it. and the only way we know how to do that is to encrypt it. why is that? it's because if there's a way to get in, then somebody will find the way in. >> that was apple ceo tim cook on "60 minutes" on sunday explaining why he has resisted calls for government officials to create a backdoor in his incription technology. that's one of the tactics hillary clinton wants to use to fight isis. >> i would hope that given the
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extraordinary capacities that the tech community has, and the legitimate needs and questions from law enforcement, that there could be a manhattan-like project, something that would bring the government and the tech communities together to see they're not adversaries. they've got to be partner ps . >> and here is tim cook's response to that. >> there have been people that suggest that we should have a backdoor. but the reality is if you put a backdoor in, that backdoor is for everybody, good guys and bad guys. >> joining us now, david sanger, national security correspondent for "the new york times." also with us, lance james, the chief scientist at flash point, an intelligence consulting firm. and he founded 1, 2, p an incription software. in the surprisingly, edward snowden weighed in during the debate when hillary clinton said what we just heard her say about a possible manhattan project.
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hillary clip ton just terrified everyone with an internet connection. so so there is that balancing act back again. the snowden view of this, versus that national security view of this. where is this debate going? >> well, this is going to be a big issue in congress, in the campaign, as you move into 2016. and that wasn't easily anticipated a year ago when we were writing stories about the enincription debate and why it was that apple was now moving to what's called end to end incription, which is to say when i text you from my iphone to your iphone, apple doesn't actually have a way of decoding that.
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the encryption is in each of those two phones. what you heard hillary clinton say in the era of terrorism, we're past the reaction of snowden. there needs to be some kind of compromise, a way to allow us to protect data, the way tim cook was say, and the way to allow law enforcement to get in if they have a legal order. and what you hear tim cook saying is i know politicians believe that it's always nice to compromise, but in this case, there is no compromise. in this case, the mathematics are driving this, and the mathematics show that if you create some kind of an opening, the chinese, the russians, the iranians, north koreans, will all focus their efforts on bursting through that without that legal order. >> lance james, do you see any technological middle ground here? anything that you could imagine working the way hillary clinton imagines that manhattan project working? >> well, not exactly. i'm actually surprised to see
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the democratic party even, you know, trying to find a middle ground on the backdoor issue. this issue came -- we had this in the 1990s. and basically, if you kind of look at it, there's two reasons. i think tim cook from apple was basically presenting something that was pretty solid. the fact that one reason why you would not get the government a backdoor is three letters -- opm, office of personnel management. the department of secrets can't even keep their own secrets, right? you spent the last year dealing with breaches and china and all these different concerns and national security and foreign intelligence, getting into our systems. and we can't have both. we can't literally say okay, now we're going to have backdoors. and then mathematically, you know, we can change all of these numbers that have already been created. secondly, the more attention we drive to this stho to the show we're afraid or in fear of this encryption, the more we're accelerating the attention to these programs and applications
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to our adversaries in the first place. the ones that are actually already using it are already using it. there's nothing we can do about it anyways. we have to kind of adapt to this. we have to adapt -- you know, we have to adapt the other intelligence techniques or methodologies. >> david sanger, what adaptations are possible? what other methodologies might there be? >> well, you know, the communications that are over the iphone -- and i think mr. cook made the point that a smart phone has far more than what one would pick up in a normal telephone. if you can get at somebody's phone, you have their whole life in your hands. but the adaptations that have been discussed have been finding ways for the intelligence community to get some other sets of data that may not be from inside the phone but may give them as much or more. so for example, the metadata that you heard so much about in the debates after the snowden
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revelation, that is to say the name, the time of a call, the number called, tells you a lot. gps data tells you a lot. frequently the fbi has gone to companies like apple or google seeking information and they found it in the cloud because the cloud, by and large, is not encrypted. some day it will be. there are a lot of people in the intelligence world, law reps, who will tell you right now that despite encryption, this is really the golden age of intelligence, because there are so many more devices that are tracking your every move, where your car goes, when you pass a toll booth, that they never really had access to even 10 or 15 years ago. >> thank you both for joining us tonight. really appreciate it. >> thank you. up next, after a year of vicious and violent and in one case murderous attacks against planned parenthood, support for abortion rights in this country
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has increased. wendy davis is next.
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a new national poll shows support for abortion rights is going up, including among republicans. according to a new associated press gfk poll, 58% of americans believe abortion should be legal in most or all cases. that's up from 51% in january, and that comes after a year of all republican presidential candidates campaigning against abortion rights. those who think abortions should be illegal in most or all cases dropped from 45% in january to 39% now. approval also rose in every political party from january to december. republican support increased five points to 40%. democratic party support rose seven points to 76%. and independents increased support by 11 points to 54%. wendy davis, former texas state senator is back with us. senator davis, when you were in
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the senate, you did what became instantly famous nationally, filibuster in this fight against restricting abortion rights in texas. and now we see that the -- after this year, this very intense year of all republican presidential campaigning against abortion rights, these attacks on planned parenthood, the attacks on the activities of planned parenthood and congressional hearings, support for abortion rights increasing. does that surprise you given the climate of year? >> it doesn't surprise me. it certainly speaks to the fact that the republican party is completely out of touch with most americans on this issue. but i think the primary reason we're seeing support is this issue is clearly present among the minds of voters. it's been forced among the minds of voters not only with what's happening in the conversation in the republican primary, but also what's happening with these laws that have been passing in states
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like texas and elsewhere. it's a key understanding that people have that this right that we've taken for grant for a long time can be threatened. and i think a lot of people understand at the end of the day, this is bad, not good, for women. and they certainly see the connection between women's reproductive autonomy and their economic opportunity, and they don't want to see us go to a place where we actually threaten that by virtue of some of the rhetoric that's going on on the republican side, and also by virtue of these laws that have been pazing in states across the country. >> so i mean, it seems what's going on is when this issue gets forced into public consciousness, whether it's through action by the texas senate or whether it's through republican presidential campaigns or a murderous attack on planned parenthood, a congressional hearing about planned parenthood, that when it forces people to think about it, they don't necessarily -- they think about it in their own terms. they don't think about it in the
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terms of the republican attacks that are forcing the issue. >> it becomes much more real and therefore we're kind of forced to consider what our opinion on the issue is. i also think that there has been a great deal of effort, effective effort, in the last year for more women, as i did, to come out of the shadows and tell their personal stories about abortion, to put a personal face on this. and to make it real to take it out of the context of something that's abstract, i think the more that women do that and they destigmatize abortion, the better we will see the consequences in terms of people's support and understanding of why abortion rights in this country are still so very important.
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the man who gave convicted boston mare ton bomber tsarnaev the gun that he used is set to be released from prison. he was sentenced to time served plus three years supervised release for drug and firearm charges that he pled guilty to last year. silva testified in march that he lent a p-95 like this one to tsarnaev who told him he wanted it to rob college students in rhode island. instead that gun was used to kill police officer sean collier. prosecutors had sought an 18-month sentence for silva,
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citing his cooperation in the bombing investigation. he has served 17 months. they noted that he testified, that tsarnaev, who he had been friends with since childhood sought the gun. it helped undercut the assertion that he had been a secondary player in a plot planned by his older brother. before his sentence was read, 22-year-old stephen silva apologized and told the judge, quote, i had no idea that the firearm i lent to mr. tsarnaev would be used in the way it was. i was young, dumb and thought i could outsmart everyone. ♪
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>> attacks by bokao haram
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terrorists have kept kids out of school. o haram terrorists have kept kids out of school. more than 2,000 schools have closed in nigeria and neighboring countries. some have been looted or set on fire by the insurgent group whose name actually means, quote, western education is sinful. about 600 teachers have been killed during boko haram's six-year insr. generurgency. up next, a more hopeful picture of education in africa. watching football together is great... but i think women would agree... huddling with their man after the game is nice too. the thing is, about half of men over 40
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>> and now tonight's last word. we just heard about how bok boko ham has forced more than a million children out of their schools in four countries in africa. getting an education in that region is difficult enough. even in safer countries, where no one threatens kids just for going to school. malawi is such a country. it's a stable country far from the interference of groups like boko haram. malawi is one of the poorest countries in the world. the life expectancy is 55 years. 10% of the 16 million people in malawi live with hiv/aids. the biggest problems all come
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from poverty. the per capita income in malawi is $270 a year. the government's most basic problem then is simply you can not tax poverty. so the government simply duntz have enough revenue and enough revenue sources to even provide the basic services that people have come to expect of governments around the world. there is free public school system, but only for elementary school. the government can't afford to provide free public high school. and so families have to pay a small tuition for public high school, and for those few families who can afford that tuition, even fewer of them can afford to send more than one of their children. and so the child they send to high school is more likely to be a boy. which is why the boys high school graduation rate in malawi is double the graduation rate for girls. and that's why the k.i.n.d. fund provides tuition for girls to attend high school. we added that girl scholarship
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program to the k.i.n.d. fund after we got the kids in need of desks part of the program up and running. and you contributed so generously to have desks made in malawi by workers, workers who now have jobs, thanks to the k.i.n.d. fund. the k.i.n.d. fund is delivering desks to kids in malawi schools who were ne going to see desks in their classrooms throughout their entire classrooms. kids who were going to spend their entire school lives sitting on the floor, trying to write by holding a piece of paper on their friend's back or on their legs. your generous contributions to the k.i.n.d. fund have changed all of that for hundreds of thousands of kids in malawi schools. my favorite tweet of the day today is from jeffrey heise who wrote sold a copy of trump's adequate art of the deal" become on e may with signature. buying desk with proceeds in his
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name. merry christmas. that's a truly brilliant and best possible use of that book. vanessa tweeted, law reps, thank you for bringi inin ining the k fund to my attention. i donated a year of education today. i need to do more. this is important. i always hear that from contributors to the k.i.n.d. fund, i want to do more. and many do more. virginia roth tweeted, lawrence, just made my annual do nation to k.i.n.d. as gifts to others. every year, new folks get to learn about the fund and your work with them. she's doing what i do, which is to give christmas gifts to people on your list through the k.i.n.d. fund. i donate tedesks and i give gir tuition and people on my christmas lift get an acknowledgment that gift has been given in their name. you can do that by going to last word dekss.msnbc.com. any amount you give is helpful. $5 will help. that will be combined with someone else who gives $5, and
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someone else. and a desk will be built and it will be delivered to a school and that's going to happen because of your $5. every little bit helps. last night, we were joined by eighth grader preston lucy and seventh grader connor gossman who ran a bake scale this weekend in los angeles to raise money nor the k.i.n.d. fund. they were moved in action by seeing my reports about malawi schools here on "the last word" and realizing if they were in seventh grade and eighth grade in malawi, they would be sitting on the floor throughout the school day they probably wouldn't own shoes like a lot of kids in malawi. they probably would have to walk at least a few miles to their closest school, maybe do that walk barefoot. and them do it, and they would do it like the kids in malawi do, just because they know, just as here in the united states, that everything they hope for in their lives can only be achieved
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through education. walter tweeted after last night's show, lawrence, bringing those two kids tonight was kind of you. they surely deserve spotlight and your cause undoubtedly. since preston and connor appeared on the show last night, they inspired you to donate another $72,942 last night and today. mj tweeted great jobs, kids. thanks again to preston and connor and thank you all for helping us continue this important work. thank you for allowing girls the possibility of going to high school who would otherwise have absolutely no chance of going to school. and thank you for improving the classroom experience and brightening the school day of those children in malawi whose only hope for a better future is
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through what they can achieve in those classrooms at those desks that you have so generously provided. thank you for your kindness. ♪