tv The Last Word With Lawrence O Donnell MSNBC February 29, 2016 7:00pm-8:01pm PST
running a really moderate campaign right now. he skipped the part of the process where you win the primary from the right and you have to sprint to the middle for the general. he skipped that part because the only way anyone other than donald trump has a shot at the nomination is an end game in which the primaries really don't matter. and the republican field really only has two ways forward at this point. donald trump wins the nomination or nobody does and we get that convention. that's it. what he's doing right now makes total sense. that does it for us tonight. we will see you again tomorrow for our super tuesday coverage. now it's time for "the last word" with lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence. >> rachel, we're going to trump university tonight. >> really? >> but of course it's closed down. so the best we can do is we have a former student of trump university who's joining us tonight. you might want to take a look at this. >> oh, my god. >> don't rush out the door tonight, rachel. >> i won't. i will stay. thank you, my friend. >> thank you, rachel. well, tavis smiley is also here
with us tonight to discuss donald trump, david duke and the ku klux klan. as i said, one of the students of trump university is here to tell us why he is suing donald trump in federal court for fraud. >> my whole life has been money. i want money, i want money. >> i will not allow the conservative movement to be taken over by a con artist by the name of donald trump. >> at trump university we teach success. that's what it's all about. success. it's going to happen to you. >> it was a massive con job. what he told those students is exactly what he's saying to america now. >> we're going to become so successful again. we're going to become so successful again. >> it is a fraud. it is a scam. >> oh, he's a con man. he's a con man. it's so insulting. >> refuses to condemn the ku klux klan. he was asked that yesterday repeatedly. >> would you just say unequivocally you condemn them and you don't want their support? >> well, i have to look at the
group. >> i mean, i'm just talking about david duke and the ku klux klan here. >> a very bad earpiece that they gave me and you could hardly hear what he was saying. >> i donate care how bad the earpiece is. ku klux klan comes in pretty clearly. >> i know nothing about david duke. i don't know anything about white supremacists. >> at some point you're either racist or you're pretending to be and at some point there's no difference there. >> donald trump knows nothing. that's what he said yesterday. about david duke and the ku klux klan. he said he knew nothing about david duke and the klan. donald trump flip-flops between being a know-it-all and knowing nothing, depending on which is the most convenient in that moment. yesterday he decided it was politically convenient in the morning for him to know nothing about david duke and the ku klux klan because he does know that the avowed racist david duke and many white supremacists support his campaign, the donald trump campaign. we will talk with tavis smiley
about why they support donald trump, coming up. but first, we are going to trump university. of course we can't actually go there because the fake university donald trump created was shut down six years ago after being in business for only five years. and it was not a university. it was a business. >> you don't know anything about it because you're a lousy businessman. >> i don't know anything about bankrupting four companies. you bankrupted -- >> you know why? >> i don't know anything about starting a university -- >> one at a time. >> a fake university. a fake university. >> that's called -- >> there are people that borrowed $36,000 to go to trump university, and they're suing him now. $36,000 to go to university that's a fake school. >> and by the way -- >> and you know what they got? they got to take a picture with a cardboard cutout of donald trump. that's what they got for their $36,000. >> in an exhaustive investigation of trump university for a time by steve brill mr. brill reports, "trump university collected
approximately $40 million from its students, who included veterans, retired police officers and teachers. trump personally received approximately 5 million of it." here is a check from trump university for $500,000 made out to donald trump and signed by donald trump. donald trump is now being sued in federal fraud cases, one of which the judge has allowed to be brought under the racketeer influence and corrupt organizations act that's also known as rico, which means that donald trump actually stands accused in federal court of being a racketeer. here is how donald trump lured students to his fake university. ♪ >> we're going to have professors and adjunct professors that are absolutely terrific. terrific people, terrific
brains, successful. we are going to have the best of the best. and honestly, if you don't learn from them, if you don't learn from me, if you don't learn from the people that we're going to be putting forward, and these are all people that are hand-picked by me, then you're just not going to make it in terms of the world of success. we're going to teach you better than the business schools are going to teach you. and i went to the best business school. >> joining us now is bob geo, a former trump university student and a plaintiff in one of the lawsuits against donald trump university. also with us, steve brill, the founder of court tv and the american lawyer who's written extensively about trump university for "time." bob, thank you very much for joining us tonight. steve, thank you. >> you're welcome. >> you've brought all your student materials here. these big notebooks. let's see. can we get a shot of that? "profit from real estate investing." what did you learn from all of this, and how much did you spend learning it? >> okay.
i learned absolutely nothing. and i spent pretty close to $36,000 including my son's expenses. and one of the websites that they gave us at this presentation was the irs.gov website. and i knew what the irs would be allowing for deductions. and the other one was a website called zillow.com. so basically, they -- these loose-leaf binders contained powerpoint presentation that's are totally worthless. like go around town and look for signs that say "for sale by owner." that's common sense, right? >> so what did you expect to learn, and then when did you decide this -- all of this was a waste of your money? >> okay. at the first retreat by james harr harris, that one i gave a very favorable rating to because
james harris was the best motivational speaker i've ever heard in my life, and he motivated me to put $35,000 on my american express card. and after that with the first seminar i went to or workshop or retreat, whatever they decided to call it, i knew right away that i'd been scammed because they tried to upsell me to take another program for $5,000, $4,000, $20,000, you name it. >> steve, this is so familiar to me because you have accounts exactly like this in your article with all these things. >> exactly like this. >> and mr. harris, the teacher he just mentioned, was the star of trump university. >> he was the star, and he was paid a commission based not on his real estate expertise but on how many people like my friend here he signed up.
those books look pretty thick but there was 135 -- >> a lot of it is white space. here's a typical page right here. you can take notes here if you want. >> there's something without white space and that was the 135-page marketing playbook that trump put together. and that had scripts in it, for example, so mr. harris -- >> for the teachers. >> exactly. for the teachers. so mr. harris would say "i was having dinner with donald trump the other night and he confided this in me." in his deposition mr. harris said he never met donald trump, he never had dinner, but he did that in order to stick to the script. i would urge all the members of the press to go to san diego and get these court files. i also hope that as with his tax return that mr. trump will agree to unseal the parts of the court file that are sealed. he says this case is nothing. the best way to prove that would be not to seal all the records that he has sealed.
and the records that i was able to get hold of are filled with incriminating things such as the "i had dinner with mr. trump." there are instructions on how to "hook people." all kinds of sales gimmicks. especially the notion that we're going to get the very best people to do this. does that sound familiar to you in any way? it's the presidential campaign. it is literally the campaign going on. and those records in san diego, not so much the ones in new york but the records in san diego, the press should demand that he unseal those records. >> bob, when we heard that pitch of donald trump saying i'm going to get all the best people to teach you, that is exactly what he's saying about how he's going to run the government. when they ask him a question that he doesn't know the answer to, i'm going to get all the best people. you've heard all this before. >> i've heard all of this before. >> and he also has a cover story now which sounds like a lot of the campaign of when reporters
are asking him about this, in fact it happened during the debate, he says 98% of the people filled out answer cards that said they love the course. >> bob gave it a rating that gave it the highest rating. >> right. and he did it right at the point he was being sold to buy the course, not when he realized it wasn't worth anything. in addition, of the 10 now questionnaires that mr. trump has claimed in a deposition he has, that's curious because only 7,000 people took the course. and of those 7,000 his -- the chief financial officer testified in a deposition that 32% got refunds before they stopped giving refunds. so if 32% demanded refunds how could 98% of the people have been so wildly satisfied that in mr. trump's rendition this is a better school than harvard with a higher satisfaction rate than harvard? >> bob, we just had your diploma up on the screen there.
>> congratulations. >> donald trump was asked under oath if the university granted degrees, and he said he didn't even know when he was asked that. this is of course not a real degree of any kind that you got. when did -- do you know other students that were around you that it was kind of dawning on them that this thing is not for real? >> as far as the other students, i really didn't pay too much attention to them. but i knew it wasn't real because i was in the business of filing limited liability companies for 28 years, corporations with the secretary of state's office, and i knew that in order to become a corporation or a limited liability company in new york you first had to get the approval of the department of education. and i assumed that since the certificate was filed it was legitimate. however there, was a clerk in
the legislature, and they forgot to put that particular language when they amended the limited liability corporation law. >> he had -- >> so what donald trump filed was illegitimate originally but then the department of education got on his case to try to make him to change it, and from all the materials i read from the state officials he stalled them. >> the other answer to your question is it's more than 6,000 of the 7,000 people are now suing. >> yes. >> so that's a pretty good sign. >> you make a very important point in your article about donald trump to you, trying to get you in there, was trying to tell you that you're going to meet him, he's going to be on campus at some point, he's deeply involved, he's choosing all the students. >> this is my favorite. >> in the court case -- >> right. >> -- donald trump claims, i knew nothing about anything, i had nothing to do with this place, and he claims complete ignorance of the whole thing because he's trying to get off the liability -- >> that's exactly right. i mean, it is the tale of two
depositions, if you will. in the same deposition. first he says i'm going to handpick your professors, i'm intimately involved. >> that's what he tells the customers. >> that's what he tells the customers. then when he gets sued personally as well as having his llc, his limited liability corporation suit, his lawyers immediately move to remove him personally and in their languages he was largely absent from the company, he had nothing to do with any of the teaching, he only had to do with guess what, the marketing. so they tried to walk that tightrope. and the judge just laughed at thoem them and said he is personally in the case, the case is supposed to happen in august. the judge has vowed there are going to be no delays, and we'll see what happens. >> you're a legal expert. it's a big deal that the judge did not let him get out of the case as an individual. >> it's a big deal he didn't get out of the case as an individual. the other big decision was true
to form he sued the first of the plaintiffs. he turned around and sued that plaintiff. and he lost the case. he -- the plaintiff was awarded $900,000 in legal costs against trump, which he hasn't paid yet. and it went all the way up to the court of appeals in the 9th circuit and the court of appeals said that he had no grounds to sue this person and in fact his defense that she had filled out a card, as you did right afterwards, had nothing to do with it because if this is a ponzi scheme you don't know you've been cheated until you realize you've been cheated. >> right. we're going to have to leave it there for tonight. bob guillo, thank you very much for coming in. >> you're welcome. >> i'm very sorry that you paid all that money for these books. i'm really sorry that happened to you. steve brill, thank you for invaluable reporting on this. striking to me that nowhere in any of the televised interviews of donald trump did anybody ask him anything about trump university. >> and now they -- >> until marco rubio brought it up in the debate. >> now they need to not let him
get away with the 98%. >> steve brill, thank you very much for joining us tonight. coming up, tavis smiley on donald trump's comments about david duke and the ku klux klan. those new glasses? they are. do i look smarter? yeah, a little. you're making money now, are you investing? well, i've been doing some research. let me introduce you to our broker. how much does he charge? i don't know. okay. uh, do you get your fees back if you're not happy? (dad laughs) wow, you're laughing. that's not the way the world works.
it may seem weird to bring up his ancestral name. but to quote donald trump, he should be proud of his heritage. because drumpf is much more reflective of who he actually is. so if you are thinking of voting for donald trump, the charismatic guy promising to make america great again, stop and take a moment to imagine how you would feel if you had just met a guy named donald drumpf. a litigious serial liar with a string of broken business ventures and the support of a former klan leader who he can't decide whether or not to condemn. would you think he would make a good president, or is the spell now somewhat broken? >> go online and watch john
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former klan leader david duke. today trump apologists followed the trump campaign's talking points on this that don't mention david duke but do mention robert bird, united states senator who's been dead for five years. >> let me ask you this. do you think hillary clinton is going to have to answer for her relationship with senator robert bird, who was an actual member of the kkk? >> hillary clinton actively sought out the endorsement of democratic kkk senator robert bird. donald drum p didn't seek out any endorsement. he disavowed it. >> i think this has really been blown out of proportion and it really does highlight more media bias when no one has asked barack obama to disavow senator robert bird who was not just a klans member but a leader in the klan when he endorsed him in 2008. >> he was not a leader in the klan when he endorsed barack obama. but yes, democratic senator
robert byrd was a leader of a small group of klansmen in a small town in west virginia in the 19 40z. robert byrd grew up in a house with no electricity, no running water, no bathroom, in a poverty-stricken coal-mining town. he couldn't afford to go to college but eventually began reading the classics himself and would quote them frequently after he was elected to the united states senate in 1958. in 1960 robert byrd tried to block john f. kennedy's road to the presidency by endorsing hubert humphrey in the crucial west virginia primary. robert byrd voted against the civil rights act of 1964. and in 1967 senator byrd voted against the confirmation of thurgood marshall, the first african-american appointed to the united states supreme court. in 1971 senator byrd launched a coup against senator ted kennedy by running against senator kennedy for majority whip, a position senator kennedy had held for two years.
byrd -- and he won that coup. senator byrd kept climbing the leadership ladder and became the majority leader in 1976. by the time he died in office, robert byrd had become and remains the longest-serving member in the history of the united states senate. when senator byrd set a senate record by casting his 17,000th vote in 2004, ted kennedy said this -- "every time bob casts a vote, he sets a new record. it's not fair, though, that he counts the votes he cast in the roman senate too. but we love him anyway and we never stop learning from him." ted kennedy forgave robert byrd for snatching the majority whip's job from him. he forgave robert byrd for trying to stop his brother jack's road to the white house. he forgave robert byrd's vote against thurgood marshall. he forgave byrd's opposition to
the civil rights act of 1964. and yes, he forgave senator byrd's membership in the ku klux klan. robert byrd's chapter of the klan was not known to be involved in any violence. senator byrd said they never conducted any parades or marches or public demonstrations of any kind. robert byrd came to be ashamed of his membership in the klan. he said, "it has emerged throughout my life to haunt and embarrass me." in 2005 he told eric piannon of the "washington post," "i know now i was wrong. intolerance had no place in america. i apologized a thousand times, and i don't mind apologizing over and over again. i can't erase what happened." three years later senator byrd had a politically difficult choice to make with two democratic senators vying for the party's presidential nomination. he made the same choice that ted kennedy did, and he endorsed the new guy in the senate, barack
obama, over hillary clinton. senator byrd's constituents in west virginia did not like that one bit. in the west virginia primary they voted overwhelmingly for hillary clinton over barack obama. and in the general election barack obama lost west virginia by 13 points. over the course of their senate careers robert byrd and ted kennedy ended up agreeing much more than they disagreed. they both voted against the iraq war. they supported president obama's affordable care act, as they both neared the end of their lives. senator byrd had to be wheeled onto the senate floor to cast repeated decisive votes for the affordable care act. if senator byrd had not made it to the senate floor on those days to cast those votes, there would be no argument over obamacare today because
obamacare would not exist. that is the robert byrd who the trump campaign now wants to compare to the unrepentant racist and donald trump supporter david duke. if robert byrd were with us today, he would be condemning donald trump with more passion and eloquence than any of the republican presidential candidates. we'll be right back with tavis smiley. most new wealth flows it's called a rigged economy, and this is how it works. to the top 1%. it's a system held
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he's asking us to turn over the conservative movement to someone who yesterday was asked repeatedly will you condemn david duke, who is a racist, an avowed racist? and he wouldn't condemn him. he finally said on twitter. why wouldn't you just say it right away at the moment? you say david duke to me i say racist. immediately. why wouldn't he condemn the ku klux klan? there is no room in the conservative movement and there is no room in the republican party for members of the ku klux klan or for racists like david duke. [ cheers and applause ] >> joining us now, tavis smiley, host of "tavis smiley" on pbs. also with us tom davis, former congressman from virginia where he's the state chairman for john kasich's presidential campaign. tavis, this is the kind of weekend where when i'm watching this stuff unfold i'm just wondering what tavis is
thinking. just take the ball, my friend. i don't have a question. i just want to get your reaction to what we've been watching. >> first of all, i salute you, lawrence, for that first segment, which is getting at the truth that america needs to hear about donald trump. to my mind donald trump either suffers from a severe form of chronic amnesia or he's a serial liar. now, i'm not a physician, nor am i a psychoanalyst. so i can't tell you which one. what i can tell you is that the mainstream media keeps letting him get away with this. this is not some stephen colbert version of truthiness. this is more like -- how might i put this? this is more like stymieness. sometimes he remembers, sometimes he forgets. sometimes he can recall, sometimes he can't. and again, the mainstream media keeps letting him get away with this. this is not the first time that donald trump's been supported by awhite supremacist. i'm glad my friend jake tapper finally pressed him on this. but i was on cnn two months ago during the iowa caucuses when donald trump had support from a
white supremacist doing robocalls for him then. and we tried to make this an issue two months ago. the mainstream media didn't want to pick up on it. now that david duke comes out, they are forced to have to deal with it. but this is what i mean when i say the media keeps covering the horse race but we can't get to the issues. finally, it just seems to me that donald trump is exactly what we don't need in our leadership today. what america needs right now at this critical time in our nation's history is a leader who understands what it means to be civil. we need civility. we need integrity. we need honesty. and a little bit of humility. and it just seems to me that donald trump isn't what america needs right about now. >> jeff sessions, who's the only senator who has endorsed donald trump, who himself in 1986 was defeated in a senate confirmation hearing where he was being considered for a federal judgeship, defeated because of racial incidents in his own personal past, let's
listen to what he said today. even he backed away from donald trump on this. >> i think what the right answer to this is, this country does not discriminate. we will not, as a -- no president, no officer in this country should hold office that has any hint of treating people differently because of the color of their skin or where they came from and that kind of thing. we believe in equality and fair treatment, and that's the moral principle that we adhere to as a nation. and i hope he makes that clear. >> tom davis, there's donald trump's only senate endorser saying we should make it clear that we don't treat people differently because of the color of their skin. but what he doesn't say in there is we don't treat people differently because of their religion, and he's supporting the only presidential candidate in history who has advocated a ban on entering the united states based exclusively on
religion. >> well, that's right. but that wasn't the question put to him. donald trump has said so many controversial things throughout this campaign, and the media has made him -- if you take a look at the expenditures, trump has spent less in this campaign than rubio or cruz. by wide margins they've outspent him. but the mainstream media, every time he sneezes they're out there covering donald trump. so they have in a sense created this person who is running on emotion and has picked up a lot of steam in these early southern states. and this could be a steamroller if he doesn't get stopped pretty soon. >> let's listen to what nebraska senator ben cess said on msnbc today, republican senator. >> i think a lot of the people who want to protest vote to try to scream washington is broken, they need to recognize that there are a whole bunch of other people who say if this becomes the david duke donald trump party there are a lot of us who are out. >> tavis smiley, you would think there would be more republicans saying that. >> you would think that.
but clearly that's not the case. we live now, as i've said so many times, lawrence, and you know this, we live in the most multicultural, multiracial, multiethnic america ever, and it is just mind-numbing to me how this party thinks it can ultimately win, much less govern in that america if they get behind a candidate who believes this. now, this is not so much about -- whether anyone agrees or disagrees with cruz or rubio, at least you know where they stand on the issues. we can debate that all da long. i don't think that much of either of them quite frankly to be president. but you know where they stand. but with trump continuing to advance without drilling down on any policy and forgetting every day what he said or didn't say or did or didn't do and now being unwilling to just come out and just acknowledge that this is unacceptable, that we have to do something about racism which is still the most intractable issue in this country. how you figure that your party can win with that kind of candidate just -- i quite frankly don't get it. >> well, we are learning more about trump's supporters.
we have seen in previous polls that 66% of them believe president obama is muslim. 60% of them believe that president obama is not a citizen. and in south carolina where trump had his big, big win, 33% of trump voters, 33% of them believe that islam should be illegal. so tom davis, they believe all the unconstitutional rafgz of donald trump. >> we call them low-information voters. again, trump is running a campaign basically based on emotion, not facts. and so far it's been successful. a lot of the people that have entered into this primary process have never voted in republican primaries before, haven't identified with the republican party before, but they identify with donald trump. and that's the avenue that they have to participate in. because of the general overall weakness of the party and the party structure, they've been able to be successful. >> tom davis and tavis smiley,
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donald trump has the highest percentage of voters with negative feelings toward him of any candidate running for president, democrat or republican, and donald trump's net favorability is the worst of any candidate running for president. the most recent national poll, which was completed on saturday, shows donald trump ahead among republican voters with 49% support. joining us now is sam wang, the manager of princeton university's election consortium. also with us david korn, the washington bureau chief for "mother jones" and an msnbc political analyst. professor, you've looked at all these numbers in the republican campaign. what are you seeing? >> well, the interesting thing about trump is that he is somebody who's been in the public eye for several decades, and his negatives were a little bit higher back in july but they improved a little bit in july and august as he improved in the republican race. but he's been at a negative net 20%. in other words, 20% more
unfavorable than favorable for the last four or five months. and he's been pretty rock solid. so it feels like he's in a pretty steady place at this point. he's a known quantity. >> professor, is there any model of any previous candidate with this high and solid a negative that was able to change that negative into a positive? >> well, sometimes negatives and positives do change. so for instance, his negatives were even higher among republican voters back in july. but as it became clear that he was in the front of the pack, his negatives declined somewhat. so these things can change. hillary clinton's positives were higher when she was a public figure but not a politician, when she was secretary of state or former secretary of state, and her positives went down as she became a partisan candidate. so these numbers can change somewhat. >> there's a new nbc/marrist poll, state poll, which these polls ended before thursday night's gop debate in the tennessee republican presidential primary among
likely voters there donald trum was at 40. ted cruz 22. marco rubio 19. ben carson 9. john kasich 6. david korn, one of the problems i'm having with some of these late-releasing polls is they do not include all of the events right up until this afternoon. and it feels to me like in the republican campaign if you've done a poll that does not include the thursday night debate where marco rubio finally took off the gloves against donald trump, doesn't include any of the insult match that went on over the weekend rubio versus trump, i'm not sure these polls can get the dynamic of where we are right now. >> it seems we're in a faster news cycle than ever before. nothing seems to last more than an hour or two before we chew it up and move on to the next thing. and marco rubio on wednesday was saying i'm not here to attack any politician. on thursday he changed his tune. and over the weekend he was talking about the size of trump's genitalia. i mean, this campaign has become
completely crazy. so if you're going to be polling it, you really have to be polling it almost on an hourly basis. but fortunately, lawrence, we have these things called elections. and so come tomorrow, you know, the only poll that counts, everyone says, we'll get a sense of what the last few days have really meant. but i think sam's right. over the long period donald trump's general -- well, the population's general attitude toward him has not shifted. and nothing that's happened in the last couple of days i think is going to make people who don't like him feel more positive towards him. and it's unlikely to happen as that food fight continues. >> and professor, what do the numbers tell us now about how donald trump would fare in a general election against a democrat? >> it's hard to tell. general election match-ups aren't very predictive. it looks like it might be about evenly matched. some even show -- it's hard to say what -- at such a distant date. i do think that right now trump's numbers are actually
looking unchanged and maybe pretty strong for tuesday, and he only needs about 30% of the vote on tuesday to get a majority of delegates. and that should give everyone pause for thought. >> how close will we be, professor, at the end of tuesday to donald trump having this nomination? >> well, it is -- it would be highly unusual for a candidate polling where he is in the high 30s and low 40s in such a divided field not getting the nomination. so the key here is that he can win a majority of delegates with only getting 30% of the vote on tuesday night, and that is unusual. it's because of republican rules that reward whoever is first past the post. so in fact, he has a little ways to drop before -- even after friday and -- thursday night's events, and he could still get a majority of delegates. so he could do it. >> all right. stick with us. we're going to talk about the democrats when we come back. coming up, super tuesday showdown for bernie sanders and hillary clinton. ws us to access information from anywhere. the microsoft cloud allows us to scale up. microsoft cloud changes our world dramatically.
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when voter turnouts are large, when working people and young people and people who in many cases have given up on the political process, when they come out to vote we do very well. so my request to you is that let us make history tomorrow. [ cheers and applause ] >> according to the polls, hillary clinton is leading in most of the 11 states that will vote tomorrow. today hillary clinton seemed more focused on the possibility of facing donald trump in the general election. >> when you've got somebody running for president who's insulting people, insulting their religion, we've got to pay attention to what is said because everybody else in the world pays attention. and it has consequences. in a campaign and then most seriously in the white house. >> david korn and professor sam
wang are back with us. david, it sounds like hillary clinton is already looking beyond super tuesday. >> it sure does. i mean, right now she has the better path to the nomination mathematically than bernie sanders. bernie -- senator sanders, to be polite, has to find a way to win states that are not predominantly, you know, white and progressive. and south carolina showed that he's at a very, very, you know, big handicap there. and he had -- you know, a week or two after new hampshire to work the state for the rest of the calendar. you have a lot of states voting all at once. you've got to jump around a lot. you don't have the luxury of spending a long period of time trying to work a constituency you that may not have a natural history with. so that's why right now it looks like hillary clinton is sitting in the catbird's seat and unless bernie sanders starts threatening her again if something surprising happens tomorrow, which is a possibility, she's turning and she's acting like the democratic elder stateswoman who's going to
go up against donald trump. it's a great narrative for her. >> professor, you tend not to get surprised by election results because you study the numbers leading up to them so closely. what do you see tomorrow night? >> well, right now if you look at my numbers at election.princeton.edu we're really up on the election. these late polls are pretty predictive. and these are strong states for hillary clinton. she's probably up an average of 20 percentage points on sanders. and it looks like his strongest states will be of course vermont, his home state. and i think that she's going to sweep something like 7 or 8 out of these dozen or so states. so it's going to be a big night for her. >> and where does that leave senator sanders going into next week? >> well, these are stronger states for her than the general -- all 50 states put together. she's 20 points up in these states but only five points up in national polls. so i would say that if the polls are wrong, for instance, she's up by about 8 or 9 points in massachusetts but if sanders can
pull out a win in massachusetts and we'll find that out pretty early, then that indicates that maybe things are better for sanders than expected. but i would say that we would -- i'm personally going to be watching massachusetts fairly closely. but i think it's a tough road for sanders. >> david, what's the state you're watching closest tomorrow? >> well, i was going to say massachusetts as well because that's a state where bernie sanders should have a good affinity. it's new england. it has a very democratic -- the democrats there have a very liberal background. it should be good territory for him. and it's surprising that these early polls show him trailing there. and so if he can't win over massachusetts, it may be an indicator that though he generates all this great excitement, has these big rallies, he can't really get beyond that when it comes to bringing new voters to the polls. >> and professor, massachusetts as we know is also filled with college campuses. that's bernie sanders' demographic.
so yet another reason to look for him to do well. and if he doesn't do well, so much more a signal of what's going to happen after massachusetts. >> absolutely. totally agree. >> and so david, how -- what is this -- what would be the sanders wednesday morning strategy if the polls are accurate in what to expect for an outcome tomorrow night? >> well, as sam just said, some states coming up ahead some voting days are going to be more favorable to him. but at some point in time, you know, if the trend continues, and i don't want to -- i'm not counting him out. so all you bernie fans, don't write me. or tweet at me. but if the trend continues, at some point he's going to have to make a decision about whether he really is going to -- why he's staying in the race if he is going to stay in the race. is it to get as many delegates as he can to have more sway at the convention? is he sticking around hoping that something external is going to happen and upturn the democratic race and give him
another chance? but he's going of it to make that decision. maybe soon in the next couple weeks. >> david korn gets tonight's last word. sam wang and david korn, thank you both for joining us tonight. appreciate it. >> sure tonight on "all in." >> in other words, we're winning with everybody. >> with trump poised for a big day tomorrow, republicans are now doing and saying anything to stop him. >> have you seen his hands. they're like this. you know what they say about men with small hands. >> plus, donald trump's selective memory. >> you have david duke just joined, a bigot, racist, a problem. >> why trump is feigning