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appreciate it. our thanks to governor john kasich and the lima pallet company and owner tracy sanchez for hosting us tonight. this is the place for politics on msnbc. have a great night. trump is right, and americans know he's right. >> ladies and gentlemen -- >> i don't think he can become president of the united states. i don't think it's mathematically possible. >> i am officially running -- >> what you see is what you get. he's genuine. he's the real deal. >> this guy is just saying what people are thinking. >> for president of the united states. and we are going to make our country great again. >> he has tapped into a part of the electorate that is, i think,
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deeply angry about the state of the economy. >> i will be the greatest jobs president that god ever created. i tell you that. >> don't have to talk about his ego. it sticks out of every pore in his body. >> you're giving donald trump full throttle ready to destroy anyone who gets in his way. >> we are going to start winning again. we're going to win so much. you are going to be so happy. we are going to make america so great again. maybe greater than ever before. good evening, i'm chris
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matthews. i don't think this country's establishment, politicians, the media, ever got this guy. they certainly underestimated him. not going anywhere, can't last. but what about the man himself? who is this guy so many people have told pollsters they want adds our next president? what's he done to get where he is? when allows him to say anything that would kill anyone else in public life? over the next hour we'll look at the donald trump story as a whole. you'll see him as a young man, a budding business tycoon and an entertainer. you'll see that the experts have been counting him out for decades. in the movie "citizen kane" orson welles plays charles foster kane. trump said it was his all-time favorite movie. >> it's also my pleasure to see to it that decent hard-working people in this community aren't robbed blind. >> trump, the candidate, echoed those sentiments for months but in december many believes he
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went too far. >> donald j. trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on. >> it played well with some of his supporters. >> okay, we are civilized people. these people with their beliefs are not civilized. and that -- we can't change them. they're not willing to change. >> but many in his own party criticized him. the white house spokesman said it disqualified him from the presidency. experts questioned its feasibility and whether it's the right way to fight terrorism. >> he's hurting the best tool that law enforcement and people in both parties believe we have to fight terrorism, which is the help of the muslim american community. and this hurts us abroad too. >> as he had with his campaign kickoff, it once again displayed trump's readiness to conquer by
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dividing. >> when mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. they're sending people that have lots of problems. and they're bringing those problems with us. they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists, and some i assume are good people. >> no one was really focusing on immigration policy. and then suddenly it is the issue that america is obsessed with. >> trump is acting in a very old and shameful american tradition. it goes back to the 1850s when there was a party that had the name know nothing and it was an anti-catholic, anti-immigrant political party. it didn't last that long, but then every so often like a fever, anti-immigrant feeling arises. >> he has tapped into a part of the electorate that is, i think, deeply angry about the state of
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the economy. it's a group of people who are still suffering from the downturn in 2007 and 2008. >> as trump's numbers rose in a crowded field -- >> go trump! >> the hispanic population reacted with anger. on june 26, 20 fit15, univision cancelled its broadcast of trump's miss universe pageant. nbc said it would not air the miss universe or miss usa pageants and macy's removed merchandise from its stores but trump stayed resolute in his message. >> we are taking mexico's problems. mexico is beating us on trade and they're beating us at the border. but mexico doesn't want to take those people so what do they do? they send them to our stupid politicians and we have sanctuary cities and all of this nonsense. >> controversy didn't seem to hurt him. by mid-july he passed the great
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establishment hope, jeb bush, in the polls. >> hey, i like this guy. he's saying what we're saying in the pool hall. or he's saying what we're saying around the coffee table in the morning. so he's tapped into something. >> i think it is both a bit of populism, a bit of racism. it is also real. >> on july 11th, 5,000 people showed up for a trump rally in arizona, a state at the epicenter of the nation's battle over immigration reform. >> these are people that shouldn't have been in this country. they flow. they flow in like water. >> he's playing on our aspirations to be rich, which most americans have, and he's playing on our disgust with politics as usual, and that's a pretty potent combination for him and certain parts of the republican party. >> trump led in the polls by a
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wide margin heading into the first republican debate hosted by fox news on august 6th. >> you've called women you don't like fat pigs, dogs, slobs and disgusting animals. your twitter account -- >> only rosie o'donnell. >> when he gave the line about rosie o'donnell and megyn, i think, was very surprised that the audience didn't boo, but instead they cheered. they laughed. they rallied. they were supportive. that changed everything. >> you once told a contestant on "celebrity apprentice" it would be a pretty picture to see her on her knees. does that sound to you like the temperament of a man we should elect as president? >> i think the big problem this country has is being politically correct. and honestly, megyn, if you don't like it, i'm sorry. i've been very nice to you, although i could probably not be based on the way you have treated me, but i wouldn't do that. >> she wanted to talk about, you know, whether he was sexist. he flipped this into a
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discussion of whether he's politically correct and what did he say. you know what, i'm not politically correct. if you don't like it, that's too bad. >> you know, you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes. blood coming out of her -- wherever. >> comments during a phone interview with cnn's don lemon got trump uninvited from a republican red state event. critics roared, but his poll numbers held strong. later in august, trump held a campaign rally in alabama. 30,000 people showed up. >> we're going to build a wall. >> and at a press conference in dubuque, iowa, jorge ramos stood up to ask a question without being called upon. >> i have a question about immigration -- >> okay, who's next? yeah, please. >> mr. trump, i have a question. >> excuse me, sit down. you weren't called. sit down. >> again, exactly what we've been waiting for. people did not fly all the way to dubuque to listen to you read from your little speech and
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that's exactly what jorge ramos was doing. he was reading from a speech. trump had him thrown out. it was great. and then trump invited him back in and took his question. >> yes. good. absolutely. good. absolutely. good to have you back. >> thank you very much. >> there is an illusion within the american press that the people cherish what we do. i've got news for you. if they find somebody who's going to give us a punch in the nose or a black eye, they're cheering them on, and that's what happened. trump knew what he was doing. >> so the jorge ramos confrontation, you know, worked well with his base. that represented why it is very possible for trump to win the nomination but impossible for him to win the election. any republican candidate needs to get at least 40% of the latino vote to have a chance electorally. >> the more controversy, the higher his numbers went. the more people criticized him, the higher the numbers went.
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the more provocative he was, the higher his numbers went. donald trump knew exactly what he was doing. he was strategic, he was brilliant, and it was the summer of trump. >> i would vote for donald trump, definitely. this is very new. this is the equivalent to obama new, you know what i mean. first black president, first interesting president. >> now suddenly it's the summer of trump that's becoming the autumn of trump. trump is not going down, he's going up. >> when citizen trump continues. >> i joke and i say there's only one rogue in every family. donald is the rogue. he's a pretty good rogue. so all eleven models come standard with an intelligent crash response system... hmm. ...seven stability-enhancing systems... hmmm... ...and equipment for two child seats. hmmm... for those who take safety seriously.
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23-room house that his father built. >> my father was a seven-day worker. he loved -- that was his hobby. he was a task master. he was, you know, a strong man in business but successful. >> my father would take me, he used to call it the rounds. he'd take me on the round. he'd go around to construction sites. every penny counted. every penny in construction and every penny in rent. >> that was how they bonded as father and son. donald learned the business by following and shadowing his father from a very, very young age. >> during the 1940s and '50s, fred trump built housing in queens and brooklyn for returning veterans. and soon he owned 39 apartment complexes throughout the city and was a multimillionaire. >> i think the important thing about fred trump is he gives the lie to the idea that donald trump is somehow some kind of self-made man. >> friends and family say that trump was a tough to handle
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teenager. >> he was wild. he was incorrigable. he was difficult. highly spirited. >> i joke and say there's only one rogue in every family and donald is the rogue. he's a pretty good rogue. >> he was a brat. >> you know, after enough of this kind of misbehaving and not following the ruse, his dad packed him up and sent him away to military school. and he actually says it's the best thing that happened to him. he really did need the discipline. >> i've loved it. it was terrific training. it was tough, but it was good. >> so he was tough to handle, had to be sent to the new york military academy. excellent. he's an alpha male. >> he's given a uniform and a belt with brass buckles that he's told to keep shiny and subjected to very intense
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discipline. >> those were days where it wasn't like today. i mean they hit and they did whatever the hell they had to do. they were a tough lot. >> trump thrived at new york military academy. he was a star on the baseball team, was elected captain and led the honor guard in new york city's columbus day parade. during the summer trump began working for his father. >> we used to have contests and he used to always respect the fact that i always had the record. i was able to have painted with two painters six hallways in one day. we used spray. that's the all-time trump organization record. so it was great. at the time it was like the greatest achievement of my life. >> trump graduated in 1964 and went to fordham university for two years before transferring to the wharton school of the university of pennsylvania. he graduated in 1968 and after all his military training, a medical deferment makes him ineligible for the vietnam era draft. trump went to work for his successful father, fred, but the
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boroughs of brooklyn and queens were not enough for him. he'll take manhattan. >> from the time i was very young i had been fascinated with the new york skyline. >> coming up, trump moves across the river to manhattan and the new york real estate business will never be the same. these little guys? they represent blood cells. and if you have afib-an irregular heartbeat that may put you at five times greater risk of stroke they can pool together in the heart, forming a clot that can break free and travel upstream to the brain, where it can block blood flow and cause a stroke. but if you have afib that's not caused by a heart valve problem, pradaxa can help stop clots from forming. pradaxa was even proven superior to warfarin at reducing the risk of stroke, in a clinical trial without the need for regular blood tests. and, in the rare event of an emergency, pradaxa is the only oral blood thinner other than warfarin with a specific reversal treatment to help your body clot normally again. pradaxa is not for people who have had a heart valve replacement.
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when i graduated from college, i went to work with my father, and he built housing in brooklyn and queens. and it was dangerous stuff. i mean you knock on a door and there would be bullet holes through the door. i'd say to those people, what are those holes? they said they're bullet holes. i said i think i'd rather sell apartments to johnny carson and steven spielberg, it's much easier. >> as a kid from queens, manhattan was always the emerald city in the distance, a real beacon that drew him. >> in 1971, trump moved to his first apartment in manhattan, a studio on the upper east side. he was 24 years old and family and friends say he was enjoying himself. >> he always went to what he
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called the swingle bars to check out the women. >> donald was a high flier when it comes to that. >> he joined some private clubs and that's where he rubbed shoulders with george steinbrenner and roy cohn, the infamous lawyer and former mccarthy aide. >> whenever i hear that people have been failing to act on fbi information about communists. >> he said listen, i've followed your career and you're a little bit crazy like i am. you stand up to the establishment. can i come see you? i said sure. >> he was one of trump's really influential connections. >> he had no skrup els whatsoever, none. just get the deal done and whatever it takes to get the deal done. so trump used him as his lawyer to go on and cut deals. >> i think donald likes associating himself with people who are brass knuckle. tough characters, uncompromising characters. >> young trump's ambition was reflected in his early business ventures. >> well, my first big deal in manhattan was probably the
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convention center. >> in 1973 trump saw in the newspaper that the penn central rail yards were filing for bankruptcy. >> i got an option to the penn central land and was able to convince then governor kerry that this is the place to build the convention center. >> trump did not build what becomes the convention center but he did make more than a million dollars brokering part of the deal. in april of 1977, trump closed a more personal deal. he married czech model ivana. roy cohn drew up the prenup. >> the thing that first attracted me was her beauty. she was very beautiful. i liked her because she was also very solid. everything, boom, boom, boom, very orderly. >> on new year's eve, 1977, the couple had their first of their three children, donald jr. trump set his sights on another troubled penn central property, the commodore hotel next to grand central station. he had to convince the bankruptcy overseers that he
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could make a deal with banks reluctant to invest in new york city real estate. >> donald told the penn central folks that they should meet him at city hall and he would intro can you say them to the mayor. >> in new york, real estate is about tax abatements. it's about making deals with political people, it's about so didding, and it's about getting the public and especially the public officials on your side. >> the penn central executives arrived at city hall. mayor beam invited them in. there was donald, and the mayor said what the trumps want, the trumps get in this town. >> they really didn't know what the future of new york city was, and that was both good and bad. it was good in that i was able to get tremendous tax advantages and tax abatements. it was bad in that it wasn't easy to get financing. >> after obtaining multimillion dollar tax abatements, trump received the necessary financing to develop what would become the grand hyatt hotel. >> people ask me how come, how
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is it that you got 40 years of tax abatement and i'd always say because i didn't ask for 50. >> i interviewed him when he was an unknown on the "today" show many years ago. >> you bought some prize properties at the bottom of the new york market in the 1970s. >> i had a great faith in new york, primarily our purchases have been in new york. about five years ago, new york was not considered very hot and cities in general weren't considered to hot. i see the inner cities as being a wave of the future now. >> trump was on the "today" show to talk about his next big project, trump tower. >> trump tower, they had beautiful carvings and he just wrecked them. i said how could you have done that. >> couldn't you have saved those sculptures. >> well, it would have been very very dangerous to have saved them. they weigh ed twotons, they were two and a half feet thick and if they had fallen people could have been very badly hurt and killed and to me it wasn't worth it. >> we just ripped those out
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without any consideration for their historic value. the people he had doing the demolition were illegal immigrants. >> in an interview with "the new york times," trump said he did not know there were undocumented workers in their site. >> what's left in your life. you're 33 years old, you say you didn't want to be worth a billion dollars. >> i'm not looking to make tremendous amounts of money, i'm looking to enjoy my life. if that goes with it, that's fabulous. >> in 1991 there was heart break, his older brother, fred, died. >> his brother was so young when he died, 42 years old. his brother told him, donald, don't ever drink, don't ever get involved with alcohol. and that's why donald to this day has never had alcohol, never smoked, doesn't touch the stuff. >> a few weeks after the loss of his brother, a happy moment for the family. donald and ivana welcomed daughter ivanka. trump bought a yacht, an
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airline, a professional football team and palm beach palace with 118 rooms. it is one of the largest homes in the nation. >> people of modest means look at that and they say, wow, if i were rich, that's how i'd want to live. people love the way he lives because he symbolizes the american success story. he symbolizes the way you'd live the bling. coming up, winning and losing with donald trump. >> a major business magazine came out with a story everything he touches turns to gold. and i starred to believe that myself. >> beautiful. mom knows it needs a big solution: an antiviral. don't kid around with the flu, call your doctor within the first 48 hours of symptoms and ask about prescription tamiflu. attack the flu virus at its source with tamiflu, an antiviral that helps stop it from spreading in the body. tamiflu in liquid form is fda approved to treat the flu in people two weeks of age and older
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hi, i'm richard lui with the hour's top stories. donald trump wrapped up a rally in fountain hills, arizona, ahead of that state's tuesday primary. before that a group of anti-trump protesters blocked the main road leading to the site. a paris prosecutor says salah abdeslam the top suspect in last year's deadly paris
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attacks told officials he planned to be a suicide bomber but backed out at the last minute abandoning his suicide vest. abdeslam was captured yesterday in belgium. now back to "caught on camera." the '80s were very good years for trump. in 1982 he bought a prized piece of real estate along the atlantic city boardwalk. to get holiday inn to make a deal with him, he invited executives to the site and made it look like construction was well under way. >> i had every truck available in the area moving on that site. we had trucks going back and forth and working all over the place. they saw that action, they were immediately impressed and we made a deal right then on the spot. >> in 1984, the same year haira's at trump plaza opened, they welcomed their third child,
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eric. a year later, trump castle opened. >> they were cash cows, particularly trump plaza. it was the first casino that anybody driving into atlantic city hit when they arrived there. it was essentially a license to print money. >> closer to home, actually across the street from his home, the skating rink in central park had been closed for year. it's 1986. >> they had spent over $20 million over a seven-year period. finally i said this is ridiculous. this thing shouldn't take years to build. and i was able to convince everybody to let me build it. >> donald is the gifted self-promoter, went out and pitched this as i got the project done the new york city government couldn't get done. >> i think you see the same instincts come out now, with trump being frustrated at how inept and useless government is and jumping in and saying i'm
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going to fix this. >> across the street from the rink, trump had a crown jewel of new york in 1988, the plaza hotel, for $400 million. ivana was put in charge and spent millions more to renovate. >> is there anything that you wouldn't support your man in? >> oh, sure. i wouldn't support if donald would be running around and fooling around, you know, and that i couldn't live with. >> in 1990 the tabloids were reporting that trump was doing just that with a young actress named marla maples. >> one headline i think everybody remembers was marla maples, best sex i ever had. >> marla denies ever saying that, but it's telling that the tabloids in new york would be so accustomed to trump craziness that they would run with it.
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>> divorce is a challenging and terrible thing for anyone. we'd see our parents on the cover of the post every morning walking to school. and they really -- i have to give them both credit. they did everything in their power to, you know, help us through it. >> while the divorce proceedings played out in the tabloids, at the office it was business as usual. michael jordan performed at the star-studded opening of atlantic city's trump taj mahal in 1990. >> there's never been anything like this built in this country, and i think that's why you see the huge crowds today and that's why you're going to see the huge crowds for many years to come. >> it was the most expensive casino ever built, costing more than $1 billion, most of it borrowed money. >> this was the time when borrowing money was easy. junk bonds were created and refined during the 1980s. >> every marquee purchase from the plaza hotel to the trump shuttle and later to the trump
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taj mahal, the construction of that, and the purchase of that was all built on debt. >> i was taking things a little bit too for granted. a major business magazine came out with a story everything he touches turns to gold and i started to believe that myself. >> if you owe the bank a little, it owns you. if you owe the bank a lot, you own the bank and that's essentially what happens. >> i never worked so hard convincing those banks to give me more money so i could keep going and ultimately get them paid back was one of the best deals i ever made. >> coming up, new opportunities and a new audience. >> this currency is not really real estate, it's the name trump.
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for trump, the roaring '80s were fading into memory. it was 1990, and with the national real estate market in decline, trump's empire was on the brink of collapse. >> well, this week the bankers took over donald trump's life. i mean did they take over. from now on, almost everything he does and every penny he spends needs their approval. >> as real estate nationally and even globally goes down, trump goes down with it, and he loses the plaza hotel, but he also wound up being $900 million in hawk to the banks. >> what that allowed him to do was cut a deal where they could pay the fees he needed to pay as part of his divorce settlement, the money he needed to retain trump -- his condo and trump tower, which was really an enormously symbolic security blanket. so he escaped personal bankruptcy, but he essentially became a shadow of the guy he was in the 1980s.
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>> trump's downturn extended to his personal life. in december his long-expected divorce from ivana became official. he was single again. >> just this past weekend, you had a big party in palm beach. you invited just a few of your close friends like the male dolphin and buffalo bill cheerleaders. >> donald trump is the hugh hefner of the '90s. >> for an older person, he's very attractive. >> he was seen in public with marla maples but was not ready to tie the knot. >> so, when is the big day? >> truthfully it's one of those things we've planned probably a dozen times. we were very much committed to each other. there's just a little fear. i think it's more on donald's part now. >> in october of 1993, they had a baby girl, tiffany trump. two months later marla maples
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became mrs. donald trump. over the next few years the real estate market rebounded and donald trump was back on top, valued at $450 million on the forbes wealthiest americans list. but trump said it was more like $2 billion. >> donald is one of the few people and i think the researchers at forbes have always said this, who personally lobbies them to not only be included on the list but to constantly push himself upward in the ranks. >> what people think of donald trump is important to him. he may or may not admit it, but it's important to him. all of this. poll numbers, forecasts lists, you name it. his position matters to him. >> in 1997, he filed for divorce from marla maples. less than a year later trump fell in love. this time with a 28-year-old supermodel. >> i met her at a party. as soon as i saw her, i said that's a very special person. i knew what i wanted as soon as
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i saw her. >> he was very charming and it was really the energy between us when we start to talk. that's important, that we both felt the same way. >> 1999 was a presidential campaign year and trump discussed running. >> give me a scenario as we say in the movies of a perfect donald trump run for president. all the way to november next year. >> well, i think a perfect run would be i do no campaigning, i run, only on election day, i get at least 51% in a three-way race. >> trump ultimately decided not to run, but that did not mean he faded from view. >> he essential lly became somee who licensees his name on a variety of products, vodka, mattresses, an online university and basically anything anywhere that you could glue his name on, he did and he took the fee. >> in 2004 trump got the brass ring of publicity.
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a primetime network television show about, what else, donald trump. "the apprentice" premiered on nbc. >> you're fired. >> "the apprentice" is donald trump's baby. he is heavily involved. he is there quite a bit. it's something that he enclosurely takes a lot of pride in. >> the show was a hit and things were going well at home too. in january, 2005, donald trump married melania. >> did you guys sign a prenup? >> absolutely. we won't need it. >> i can't believe that i just asked you that. >> a year later she gave birth to trumpes fifth child, a son named baron. >> there's nothing more important to me than fatherhood, than family. and i have great kids. they're really hard working. >> with a hit tv show, a new family and his name everywhere, things seemed to be going well. but in this decade, there were two more bankruptcies. trump hotels and casinos accrued
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an estimated $1.8 billion in debt and went bankrupt in 2004. trump entertainment resorts hit hard by the recession went bankrupt in 2009. tim o'brien began writing trump nation in 2004 with donald trump's cooperation, and attempted to find out what trump's net worth really was. >> when i went back and started doing the math around various statements he gave me about how much he said he was worth, the numbers weren't adding up. >> the book came out in 2005. in 2006, trump sued o'brien for $5 billion. he claimed he was defamed. to win, trump had to prove o'brien acted with malice. however, the presiding judge denied trump's claim and ultimately dismissed the lawsuit. >> we deposed donald for two days. and that deposition is one of the great rosetta stones of understanding the real donald trump, because during the course of that deposition he really
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couldn't give a practical and reliable assessment about how he determines his net worth. >> in 2011 donald trump also began throwing around the accusation that president obama was not a u.s. citizen, that no one even knew him growing up. >> you are not allowed to be a president if you're not born in this country. he may not have been born in this country. >> come on, boy now we've all seen the birth certificate. >> when everybody else had gich up, he was still hanging on it. >> at the white house correspondents dinner, president obama struck back with humor. >> donald trump is here tonight. no one is happier, no one is prouder to put this birth certificate matter to rest than the donald. and that's because he can finally get back to focusing on the issues that matter. like did we fake the moon
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and pop shop to a free lancer living from gig to gig will pay more than 15% of their business income in taxes. >> in this tax plan he offers something for everybody, but the most for those who have the most. if you're concerned about the national debt, it's not a plan that you would favor. >> what you're saying is you make it all up with growth. >> no, no, not all up with growth. we also start cutting because the waste in this country is up believable. >> do you know how many palm tigsz have said this over the years, waste, fraud and abuse. >> how will that happen? management. he is a great leader. he's going to give it to us. he doesn't have to say how, he just has to say he will from on october 28th another debate, this time hosted by cnbc. the moderators were repeatedly attacked by the republican candidates. >> you have been very critical of mark zuckerberg of facebook who has wanted to increase the -- >> i was not at all critical of
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him. in fact i am all in favor of keeping these talented people here so they can go to work in silicon valley. >> so you're in favor of increasing them? >> i'm not at all critical of him. >> where did i read this and come up with this? >> probably, i don't know, you people write the stuff. >> fact checkers quickly pointed out trump was wrong. his own website criticized zuckerberg and the moderator herself also noted this later in the program. >> they were intimidated, afraid, not bold enough. but that's not how you handle donald trump. he can see the fear in your eyes and he pounces on it. >> the country has kind of bought in. i don't know what it's going to take to change him. >> in a controversial terroriry politics and celebrity, donald trump has hosted "saturday night live." >> putin has withdrawn from ukraine and believe he he does not want to be called a loser again. he cried for hours.
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>> keep up the good work, omarosa. >> meanwhile, outside 30 rockefeller plaza. >> myself, i'm mexican. i'm not a rapist, i'm a student. i just want to make sure he listens to the stories and stop his racism that he's spreading around the country. >> at the fox business republican debate on november 10th, opponents challenged trump on how he plans to deport millions of undocumented immigrants. >> but if people think that we are going to ship 11 million people who are law abiding and are in this country and somehow pick them up at their house and ship them out to mexico, think about the families. think about the children. >> let me just tell you that dwight eisenhower, good president, great president, people liked him, i like ike, right, the expression. i like ike. moved a million and a half illegal immigrants out of this country. moved them just beyond the border. >> you need at least 100,000
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buses to take them back to mexico. has he thought about that? has he explained how that's going to happen? it is a totally impractical idea. >> when ben carson was a threat, trump went, well, ballistic. >> how stupid are the people of iowa? how stupid are the people of the country to believe this crap. >> an unacknowledged part of the trump mystique is that he's kind of funny. he's enjoying himself. that's a big issue. you look at all of these others and they seem to be suffering. trump is having fun. you know when somebody is having fun, you start to have fun. >> but not everybody was laughing as trump impugned the patriotism of american muslims. >> i want surveillance of certain mosques, okay. i watched when the world trade center came tumbling down and i
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watched in jersey city, new jersey, where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. >> and after cnn aired footage of a black lives matter protester being beaten up by trump supporters at a rally, trump retweeted extreme right propaganda exaggerating racial crime statistics. despite inaccurate and kroempl claims, trump continued to sit atop the gop polls. >> you're running for president of the united states. your words matter. truthfulness matters. fact based stuff matters, no? >> take it easy, chuck. just play cool. >> are you worried that sometimes he bends the truth? >> bends the truth? you know what, he may, but he's still going to get things done. >> so you don't care. >> i don't care. >> after a presidential address
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on terrorism following the san bernardino mass shooting, trump read his proposal to ban muslims from entering the country. >> donald j. trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on. >> reaction was swift and loud. >> what was proposed yesterday is not what this party stands for, and more importantly, it's not what this country stands for. >> i do believe that it disqualifies him as serving as president of the united states. >> trump's statement even in a season of extremes is a dangerous proposal that overrides history, the law and the foundation of america itself. >> but trump actually rose in the polls after this. a large part of the republican base seemed to support the idea. >> i'm supporting him and i'm
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supporting what i believe he meant when he said ban muslim immigration. i don't believe he's a racist. i think he's talking about we need to step back and re-examine the vetting process. >> but many saw this as a game-changer. many thought even proposing the idea gave isis a propaganda victory. maybe this time he had gone too far. >> you think something changed in the media's reaction to him and the reaction of much of the american public. remember, two-thirds of americans don't like him. so he already has a very steep climb to actually becoming president. and i think that many of those people went from seeing this as a kind of an entertaining joke to being a dead serious political situation. >> and it was topic number one when cnn aired another debate on december 15th. >> governor bush, you called mr. trump unhinged when he proposed banning nonamerican muslims from
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the united states. why is that unhinged? >> so donald, you know, is great at the one-liners. but he's a chaos candidate. he'd be a chaos president. he would not be the commander in chief we need to keep our country safe. >> mr. trump. >> jeb doesn't really believe i'm unhinged. he said that very simply because he has failed in this campaign. it's been a total disaster. nobody cares. >> this is the problem. banning all muslims will make it harder for us to do exactly what we need to do, which is to destroy isis. >> republican front-runner donald trump has stunned the political world by announcing he will not show up at tomorrow night's republican debate hosted by fox news. >> they can't toy with me like they toy with everybody else. so let them have their debate and let's see how they do with the ratings. >> nebraska, 2016, the long
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awaited iowa caucuses. the vote didn't go in trump's favor. >> we finished second. and i want to tell you something, i'm just honored. >> but then the big comeback in new hampshire. >> new hampshire, i want to thank you, we love you. we're going to be back a lot. we're not going to forget you. you started it. remember, you started it. >> the wins continued to roll in for trump. then on march 1, the big cash-in on super tuesday. >> georgia, donald trump projected winner. tennessee, the volunteer state, donald trump projected winner. alabama, deep south, 50 delegates at stake. up to the old dominion, virginia, the commonwealth of virginia went to donald trump tonight. >> donald trump won seven primaries that day and held the lead in the delegate count as he faced the contests ahead. >> i'm going to come in the worst as second in the two or three that i might not win. i think, you know, we're a democracy. i think it's awfully hard to say that's not the person we want to
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lead the party. >> last night the republican establishment got crushed, again. trump won four of the five contests last night. >> we're going to go forward and we're going to win. more importantly, we're going to win for the country. we're going to win, win, win and we're not stopping. >> trump needs just 55% of the remaining delegates to clinch the nomination. >> he's a natural force. he's a phenomena. what's propelling him? two things, i think. he's independently wealthy. people are fed up with the system. they're fed up with career politicians. they're all beholden to somebody. and in trump they see a guy who's got fu money. >> they say politics is show business for ugly people, right? so in his case, whatever you think of his looks, he is bringing those entertainment values directly to politics. >> he will be the best president ever. we love you. >> donald trump is a top level
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new york real estate guy. you've got to have big cojones to do that and promote it constantly. reality television star. don't have to talk about his ego. it sticks out of every pore in his body. and he knows how to take a simple quick message and drive it home. >> poll after poll shows the heart of donald trump's appeal lies with the american voter who didn't go to college, who doesn't have the money, hasn't had the breaks. he is the one rallying to the billionaire from new york who rages against illegal immigration, against bad trade deals that cost us jobs, derides wars he says we shouldn't be fighting. trump seems to be tapping into an injured sense of nationalism, especially by those most threatened. for a number of reasons, good, bad and many would say ugly, donald trump has connected. label him, attack him, condemn him. but the immense failure of this country's political establishment, right, left and center, to deal with deep national problems has left the
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door open and this brash businessman from the big city has come barreling through. i'm chris matthews. thanks for watching. it's a force so deadly it can kill with a touch. >> i can't believe that i'm still alive. >> back up, back up, back up. >> so powerful, it drops suspects on the spot. whether it's a bolt out of the blue. >> you feel the current travel through your body. >> an electrifying fall or a dangerous climb. >> i wanted them down right then. >> what you're about to see is sure to be shocking. >> it's definitely something i'll never forget.