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changes and we begin to think of donald trump not just as a candidate but the person who has the easiest path to the general election? the polls in indiana have been open all day and our earliest poll prior to today had trump leading by 15 points in that state. andrea sat down for an exclusive interview with the democratic runner, hillary clinton. ted cruz is on the attack like never before, a tirade against trump that included everything from parenting to who killed jimmie hoffa to 1989 classic. we want to play the entirety of his press conference from a bit earlier. take a listen. >> this morning, donald trump went on national television and attacked my father. donald trump alleges my dad was involved in assassinating jfk.
let's be clear. this is nuts. this is not a reasonable position, this is cookie. i guess i should admit my dad killed jfk and jimmie hoffa is secretly buried in his backyard. donald's source for this is the "national enquirer," and it is trash and run by his good friend, the ceo. it has become his hit piece he uses to smear anybody and everybody. it's not first time. donald trump used the "national enquirer" to go after my family and my wife, heidi. it's lies after lies. i guess he was dismayed because a couple weeks ago they wrote
this story about jfk and donald trump was dismayed because the folks in the media weren't repeating this latest idiocy so he thought he haven't to do it himself. go on national television. my father was my hero. my dad was imprisoned and tortured in cuba. when he came to america, he had nothing. he came to america and washed dishes for 50 cents and hour, exactly the kind of person donald trump looks down on. i will do something i haven't done for those who traveled with me across the country on the campaign, i will tell you what i think about donald trump. this man aces pathological liar. he doesn't know the difference between truth and lies.
he lies practically every word that comes out of his mouth and had a pattern i think is straight out of a psychology textbook. his response is to accuse everybody else of lying. he accuses everybody on that debate stage of lying. and it's simply a mindless yell, whatever he does, he accuses everyone else of doing. the man cannot tell the truth but he combines it with being a narcissist. a narcissist at a level i don't think this country has ever seen. donald trump is such a narcissist that barack obama looks at him and goes, dude, what's your problem? everything in donald's world is about donald. and he combines being a pathological liar. i say pathological because i actually think, donald, if you hooked him up to a lie detector test, he could say one thing in the morning, one thing at noon and one thing in the evening all contradictory and he'd pass the lie detector test each time. whatever lie he's telling, he believes it at that minute. but the man is utterly amoral.
let me finish this, please. the man is utterly amoral. morality does not exist for him. it's why he went after heidi directly and smeared my wife, attacked her. apparently she's not pretty enough for donald trump. i may be biased but i think if he's making that allegation, he's also legally blind. but donald is a bully. you know, we just visited with fifth graders. every one of us knew bullies in elementary school. bullies don't come from strength, bullies come from weakness. bullies come from a deep yawning cavern of insecurity. there is a reason donald builds giant buildings and puts his name on them everywhere he goes. and i will say there are
millions of people in this country who are angry, they're angry at washington and angry at politicians who've lied to them. i understand that anger, i share that anger. donald is cynically exploiting that anger and he is lying to his supporters. donald will betray his supporters on every issue. if you care about immigration, donald is laughing at you and he's telling -- he doesn't believe what he's saying not going to build a wall, what he told the "new york times." he will betray you on every issue across the board. and his strategy of being a bully, in particular, is directed at wendy. donald has a real problem with women. people who are insecure, people who are insecure about who they are, donald is terrified by strong women.
he lashes out at them. remember, this is the same donald trump who last week here in indiana proudly touted the endorsement for mike tyson, a convicted rapist, who served three years in prison in indiana for raping a 17-year-old girl. in donald's world he said mike tyson was a tough guy. i don't think rapists are tough guys. i spent a lot of years in law enforcement dealing with rapis rapists. rapists are week and cowards and bullies and any that think this is an are tough guy, that reveals a lot about donald trump's character. he said bill clinton was targeted by upattractive women. you know what? i've been blessed to be surrounded by strong women my entire life. today is voting day here in
indiana. the president of the united states has a bully pulpit unlike anybody else. the president of the united states affects our culture. i ask the people of indiana, think about the next five years if this man were to become president. think about the next five years, the boasting, the pathological lying, the picking up the "national enquirer" and accusing people of killing jfk. the bullying. think about your kids coming back and emulating this. for people in indiana, who long for a day when we're nice to each other, when we treated people with respect, when we didn't engage in sleaze and lies. one of the lies he engages in. donald trump is a serial
philanderer. he boasts about it. it is not a secret. he's proud of being a serial philanderer. i want everybody to think about your teenage kids. the president of the united states talks about how great it is to commit adultery. how proud he is. describes his battle with venereal disease as his own personal vietnam. that's a quote by the way on the howard stern show. do you want to spend the next five years with your kids bragging about infidelity? what does he do? does the same projection just like a pathological liar, accuses everybody of lying, even though he boasts about lying, he plants in david's "national enquirer" a lie about me and my family, accuses me of doing what others do. i will tell you as the father of two young girls, the idea of our daughters coming home and repe t repeating any word that man say
s horrifies me. that is not who america is. i would say to "the hoosier" state, the entire country is depending on you, the entire country is looking to you right now. it is only indiana that can pull us back. it is only the good sense and good judgment of indiana that can pull us back. we are staring at the abyss. i have incredible faith in his s sirs. >> why isn't your message resonating with people here. two weeks ago, trump is up 50 points about him. you're saying all these things about him. >> mainstream media is doing everything they can to convince hoosiers this race is over. they only report on the polls showing donald trump up, not on me up. >> which polls? >> there was a poll three weeks
ago in indiana that showed me up double digits. there is a broader dynamic at work, which is network comprehensiexecutiv executives have made a decision to get behind donald trump. rupert murdoch and roger ailes at fox news have turned fox news into the donald trump network 24/7. rupert murdoch is used to picking world leaders in australia and the united kingdom, running tabloids. we're seeing it here at home and the consequences for this nation. the race is decided. you have no choice, you're stuck between donald trump or hillary clinton, either one of which is a horrific choice for this country. i will say the cynicism, donald is playing on the cynicism and
lets the media play that he cannot be beat. the people of indiana and hoosiers can prove that wrong. the country is depending on indiana. if indiana does not act, this country could well plunge into the abyss. i don't believe that's who we are. we are not a proud boastful self-centered mean-spirited h e hateful bullying nation. you want to understand donald trump, look no further than the interview he did a few months ago in iowa, when he was asked a very simple question. when's the last time you asked god for forgiveness? and donald trump said, he had never asked god for forgiveness for anything. i want you to think about that. what does that say about a person? i've asked god for forgiveness three times today. think about your children.
do you want your children coming home and saying, mommy, i don't need to ask god for forgiveness for anything. why? because donald trump doesn't and if he doesn't and everyone likes him, all the media praises him, i don't need to either. i love this nation with all my heart, i love the people of this country. this is not who we are. these are not our values. if any has seen the movie, back to the future 2, the screenwriter says he based the character, biff tanon on donald trump, a brag dotious arrogant buffoon who builds giant casinos with giant pictures of him everywhere he looks. we are looking potentially at the biff tanon presidency. >> ted cruz, this afternoon. donald trump responding to
cruz's remarks, calling cruz unhinged, a desperate candidate trying to save his failing campaign adding cruz does not have the temperament to be president of the united states. lets bring in hallie jackson. she was at that cruz conference, she's been with the campaign since day one. give me your sense having covered him all these months, what that press conference means? >> listen, kate, i think it was the strongest we've seen cruz come out against donald trump yet. i think what sparked that, i think the impetus for that fr k frankly are the attacks from trump against cruz's father. that is something we have seen get under cruz's skin before when it came to the "national enquirer" story with allegations of the heidi and his wife versus melania trump. i think the hits on his family are something cruz responds to in a visibly emotional way. you saw that here today. listen, you talk about timing,
of course it is primary day, of course cruz is attempting to do something to wrestle back the narrative here. i don't think you can underestimate how much it bo bothers him that his father, his family is under attack like this in a personal way by donald trump, and that is, i think, why you saw some of the anger coming from cruz. some of it also is frustration with the way this race has been shaping up, frustration with donald trump's tactics and trump's ability to talk about things that grab headlines and grab the narrative. this is cruz's attempt to bring the spotlight back to him and his race and his candidacy as he makes this frantic final push in what is a make or break state for him and what cruz acknowledges is an essential state for him. not a must win, he won't go that far but does frame this as battle for the future of the next generation, a battle, he is the last guy standing, he belie believes, between him and the country falling over into an
abyss, plunging off a cliff he puts it, and his surrogates do, too, the battle between good and evil. the stakes have been raised in indiana and the margin, some polls including ours, show trump dominating cruz by double digits, others show a tighter race and the campaign believes it is tighter and wouldn't be surprised by a double digit loss. if it is a loss, how bad of one. >> before we let you go, you covered this campaign and covered all the insiders, sometimes the jeb bush and marco rub yoakam paikam paii campaigny whispering this might be the end. are you hearing that yet? >> not yet. california could be the date. they fundamentally believe if cruz were to drop out it would
leave no alternative to donald trump and to them that's antithetical to the campaign they've been running for over a year now. cruz will talk about going to a contested convention and trying to fight it. i think they are looking to see what happens tonight and what could happen in california on june 7th. >> hallie jackson on her way to the next stop with ted cruz. next, joining me with their thoughts on ted cruz and donald trump and what is next in this campaign and the unemployed coal worker who confronted hillary clinton this week. stay with us. you've finally earned enough reward miles on your airline credit card. now you just book a seat, right? not quite. sometimes those seats are out of reach, costing an outrageous number of miles. it's time to switch...
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looking at after effects of ted cruz's explosive comments that could make or break his campaign. dealing with all due respect, the stars of the circus. very good to have you here on a very business tuesd-- busy tues afternoon. i have to talk to you about what we just played. what are we watching here? >> a lot like what happened at the end of marco rubio's campaign and he went for broke. this is not a full departure but any following the campaign this went to a lot of places even he hadn't gone and even he has become a very loud trump critic and he is personally affront and also knows he needs to do something dramatic or his campaign is not going to succeed. >> as if doing alliance with john kasich and running -- name
his running mate in advance he has been throwing hail mary's. there's a little bit of desperation seeping in here. >> no evidence i can see it's working with indiana voters. >> we'll know soon enough put based on polling it does not seem indiana will revitalize his campaign. if he doesn't win tonight, we have to start talking about what happens next in this race. does he get pressured to get out? i think he will. he's giving voice today in a prominent way and emotional way to what a lot of prominent republicans still think about donald trump. the question is will people pick up this line or a last gasp? ted cruz does this, the symbolism won't be lost on trump suppo supporters. >> he is the presidential candidate with the second most delegates. if he drops out tomorrow he will have the second most delegates when this is over. how does he under these circumstances endorse donald trump? there is a thing that have
happened with a lot of candidates that said tough things about trump and i will support the presidential nominee. >> chris christie. >> and even marco rubio. how do you stand up and say what he just said and say he's my candidate for president. i don't see how it would be. >> his endorsement would be vote for the guy a pathological liar. >> serial philanderer. said a bunch of things in the news conference. yes or no answers, does he get out tomorrow if things go badly? >> i have to go with maybe. there's big pressure because the republican donors would like donald trump to start raising money for the rnc and general election campaign and trump won't do that until the field is his alone. there will be pressure on lance priebus to pressure cruz to get out tomorrow if trump wins indiana. >> if trump wins indiana in the way many expect, wins all the
delegates, i think cruz will be out by the end of the week. >> oo eend of the week. you do? >> i believe. >> i want to play sound that a lot of people may not have had context for is this tabloid accusation made about cruz's father. we will pay trump's initiate comment and cruz's response. >> you know, his father was with lee harvey oswald prior to oswald being, you know, shot. i mean, the whole thing is ridiculous what is this right prior to his being shot, and nobody even brings this up. >> this is nuts. this is not a reasonable position. this is just kooky. while i'm at it i guess i should admit, yes, my dad killed jfk and he's secretly elvis and jimmie hoffa is buried in this is backyard. >> trump is citing an unsubstantiated report, and not anything nbc news has ever
reported, reported in the "national enquirer," an ancient photo, trump throwing a bomb, what he likes to do. is that what we will see if he becomes the general election? >> if that is the standard trump uses to talk about the clinton, oh, my goodness. based on one national "national" story, a photo showing someone with lee harvey oswald. you might think he might be coasting and let off the gas, this is his style. what do republicans think of their national nominee citing the "national enquirer" like this? >> ever since its came out of paul manafort, that he would start behaving more presidential and be a different donald trump. ever since that got floated, trump seems to be in full rebellion against that concept and done things increasingly,
i'm not going to change and still donald trump. he's on the brink of wrapping up the nomination and i don't think they will change donald trump. i think there is a good chance this is the kind of thing we will see throughout the fall and create a stable volatile unpredictable dynamic and probably ugly dynamic the next few months. >> hillary was asked whether donald trump will come after her and throw things at her. this is what she said. >> there are 16 republicans who were running against him who learns what happens if you don't fight back. yesterday, he very publicly had lump with an author who has written sell lay,000 books with your husband. he appears to be ready to dump a whole lot of stuff on you. >> join the crowd. people have been dumping stuff on me 25 years. here, i am on the brink of being
nominated to be the first woman nominated by a party. it is an historic honor and responsibility. i won't respond to his every attack, not what i think this election will come down to. >> that's kind of what ted cruz said, right? i won't respond to donald trum trump's every attack. what does clinton say they have to do in a general? >> she said she won't respond, let others respond. there are people who worked on her husband's campaign and donald trump's campaign and look at trump's capacity to dominate the news and stories he wants to be front and enter and they worry about her capacity and president clinton's capacity to handle what trump would throw at them. >> there are a lot of things -- we saw relatively extended back and forth over president clinton's personal life that donald trump raised in december. that seems to unnerve her a
little bit and shake up the psyche of brooklyn, the headquarters collectively. you can say how you will be disciplined and what your battle plan is but when you face this stuff in a relentless way trump will do day after day and get attention for it, it will take a lot of discipline on hillary clinton's part not to respond. >> or it could all backfire. >> great to have you here. see you on, with all due respect, 6:00 p.m. eastern time on cnmsnbc. hillary clinton responding to one of virginia's many unemployed coal miners. >> i want to know how you can say you will put coal miners out of jobs and come in here and tell us how you will be our friends. those people out there don't see you as a friend. >> i'll talk to that man, bo, and ab exclusive interview after the break. ep an erection.
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plainly i misspoke and one reason i came here to let you know where i stand because i would never disrespect the people here. >> hillary clinton just moments ago in athens, ohio, talking about copts she made back at a town hall in march. >> i'm the only candidate which has a policy about how to bring economic opportunity using clean renewable energy as the key into coal country because we're going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business. >> exchange over those comments getting a lot of attention at a town hall yesterday and an unemployed coal miner confronted clinton over those remarks. >> when you make comments like we're going to put a lot of coal miners out of jobs, these are
the kind of people you're aff t affecting. this is my family. my hope is -- that's my future. >> it was a misstatement because what i was saying is that the way things are going now, we will continue to lose jobs. that's what i meant to say and i think that seems to be supported by the facts. i didn't mean we were going to do it. what i said was that is going to happen unless we take action to try to help and prevent it. just moments ago, andrea mitchell asked clinton about the whole thing. >> i felt, first of all, really honored that he would be so open and honest emotionally, descr e describing what it's like, what it has been like. you see, i think we've got to both move toward a clean energy future, i've been saying that across america, i have a plan i think will move us there.
but we also have to remember who turned on the lights and powered the factories and provided the energy that we needed to build our country. >> i want to bring in bo cookkoy by phone now. he is the unemployed worker that brought it up. thank you for being with us. >> thank you for having me. >> we are showing your picture. she says she misspoke and her remarks were taken out of context. do you take her at her word? >> when you hear the whole interview, it's okay for her to say that, i believe, but i really -- i don't think that's what she meant. i think her remarks from the very beginning have always been about renewable energy. i'm fine with that. i mean, my people feel that we have a promise from god in the coal we have.
the coal was put there by god. we feel like we're people that are favored by god. and honestly, while that coal is not a renewable source and eventually that coal will disappear, the people that are here now that are without jobs, no one's ever put anything in place for us other than coal. and now we're facing a future of what are we going to do now? sit around until you bring something in. >> she did announce a proposal last fall with $30 billion in aid for people like you, pension benefits and retraining. is that enough? >> the retraining that i've looked into available to me is only up to about 5,0$5,000. >> right now? >> yes. as far as -- i don't know if that's the same thing she's talking about. >> she's pledging if she were president she would find that money. i know you're a republican. i'm guessing no matter what she promises you are probably not a
supporter of hillary clinton? >> not at the -- not currently, no. >> not politically speaking. you were invited to be there, am i right, by a doctor who was on the panel yesterday? i know you drove 25 minutes to be there, you have three kids, your wife was there with you. did it take a lot for you, bo, to drive there and sit at that table and confront hillary clinton, a woman known all around the world? >> well, not really. it was a little nerve-wracking, honestly, i found out about it on saturday and i really just prayed and fasted through saturday and sunday. i felt like it was an opportunity that god had opened for me, to be able to be a voice for the people in my area, to someone that we feel is against us. >> have you decided who you're voting for in this election? >> not yet, ma'am, no. >> bo, we appreciate you spe spending a few moments with us this afternoon. thanks so much.
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been saying a long time that ted cruz does not have the temperament to be president of the united states. the idea that donald trump would bring up this unfounded allegation shouldn't necessarily come as a surprise. he's been doing just that for quite some time now, even before he started campaigning, talking about president obama born in kenya, bringing up an internet rumor about general pershing p dipping bullets in pig's blood and killing terrorists with it and thousands of muslims che cheering in jersey city after 9/11 and all these things either proven untrue or frankly internet hoaxes. the campaign is continuing on with that and so far today they're feeling extraordinarily confident about their chances in indiana tonight. they told me they will start running a general election campaign regardless whether ted cruz or john kasich drop out. >> what is the plan for the evening? we see donald trump when? >> reporter: we see donald trump
at 9:00 tonight. the polls close much earlier than that. if this is a result that comes out pretty quickly, i wouldn't be surprised if he comes out earlier than 9:00. >> katy, thanks so much. now, it is up to indiana's voters, it is under way at holy spirit parish in fishers, indiana, the busiest republican polling station in the state. in 2012, more gop votes were cast there than any other congressional district in indiana. we see tony due there. voter turnout looks pretty heavy. what is it 3:42 eastern time? >> yes. we thought it would help john kasich, the richest and most educated county in the entire country. it's also a bit like the area
outside milwaukee where ted cruz did well. we thought he might be the guy that carries this area. the republican that wins tonight has to do well in a populated area like this. talking to voters all day long we're not hearing cruz or kasich and trump trump trump. it's establish republicans, the kind of republicans trump was not supposed to bring in. one woman an mba and corporate finance director and fortune finance director, and campaign director for mitt romney, he has come over to the trump camp and representative what we've been seeing today, establish republicans making peace whatever their issues are with donald trump and coming up behind me and casting a ballot poll. >> to chicago, lake county, a democratic stronghold, one of a handful of counties president
obama won in 2012. polling location in hammond, indiana. what are you saying? >> they're saying this after lunch locull is about to end. after the closing of these polls you can expect a followed of people coming through -- a flood of people coming through. we just got off the phone and saying the beautiful weather today is a huge reason why we think they will shatter the neurosurgeon of percentage of people turning out than four years ago. 18% four years ago, already from 2:00 local time, there are over 21%. by the end of the afternoon, they anticipate they will have close to 40% of voters registered in this county to turn out. here is one. i just stumbled on to one. tell me your name. >> connie. >> you voted? >> i was the 100th voter in my precinct today.
never reached that number and looks like the turnout is good. >> could you tell me who you voted for? >> i took the democratic ballot, i always would and proud of both candidates i feel are very very good. i voted for bernie sanders. he's running against an established politician and established group. i think it's great somebody can come from zero and go up that far and do as well as he's doing. when it comes to election time any democratic candidate gets my vote in november. >> there you have it, kate. a big turnout in lake county and they expect many more people in the next few hours. >> you have a front row seat for all of it. appreciate it. we'll be back after a quick break.
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the medical examiner's office released calls of a woman calling 911 that she was concerned about prince's cocaine habit and prior in 2010 prince told her he couldn't control his habit. msnbc does not have any further information about the context of that phone call and no verification of the caller's concerns. we have breaking news as well in the case of man who died in police custody. msnbc shared this video exclusively last fall showing police shock a southern virginia man with a taser repeatedly. now, nearly three years since linwood lambert's death we learned the police involved will not face charges. our msnbc chief correspondent broke this last fall and you will tell us what the latest is, why no charges? >> exactly. no charges. they just wrapped a press conference with a 76 page report. i want to remind folks this
wasn't initially a criminal suspect. he was picked up at a motel room because he was acting errat erratically. this was the video we obtained to be taken to the er for medical care that he apparently needed. when the car arrived, he kicked out the car window and went running towards the er. you see this in hospital video, where he was tased and fell to the ground. you see the officers there using the taser to bring him to the ground. they shackled his legs and then what we saw on another video angle was shocking to many. a repeated set of tasings, even after his legs were shackled on the ground as he rolled around, pleading for help. he told the officers he had done cocaine, rather than bring him into the er, into the hospital, they then took him back inside the car, where they swore at him, directed him to move around, continued to tase him, removed him and went back to jail, not the er, where he then
died. so the question always was, why didn't they give him the medical care he was supposed to receive? and were there any crimes? the answer, according to the prosecutor here today is, no crimes were committed. they reviewed this and potentially considered manslaughter. they said they considered murder and they considered lower forms of assault, but decided all of this was not illegal. they did, however, criticize the police conduct. i can show you highlights from the report, calling the type of tasing we just showed you, unreasonable, negligent. the decision to remove him from the hospital, heart-wrending and a lot of criticism in many places, ultimately prosecutors, despite their criticism of police involved, violence or force or whatever folks want to call it here, here the force being criticized, but being found ultimately not to justify charges. >> right, as a legal matter,
they didn't find enough evidence for charges. ari melber, thanks so much. >> the only other thing i'll mention, the fbi has also opened an inquiry. that remains open today. the local inquiry is closed, kate. >> thanks so much. ugh! heartburn! no one burns on my watch! try alka-seltzer heartburn reliefchews. they work fast and don't taste chalky.
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to opioid overdoses and in her one-on-one exclusive interview with my friend andrea mitchell, she also talked about prescription painkillers and said doctors bear some of the responsibility for so many being addict addicted. >> out of a desire to help people cope with pain, we have been much too open and easy in providing painkillers that have addicted people. they're such powerful opiates. in different parts of the country, that has led people to be more vulnerable to heroin, which is coming in across our borders. in other parts of the country, there have been unfortunately a lot of physicians that have been more than willing to write those prescriptions. >> there's much more of that and also the entire interview with andrea coming up in the next hour of msnbc. that's going to do it for this hour. i'll see you right back here tomorrow at 6:00 eastern time.
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