tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC May 25, 2016 9:00pm-10:01pm PDT
>> everyone got to keep their urine sample containers. the rachel maddow show starts right now. >> thanks to you at home for joining us. at the last republican national convention when they nominated mitt romney the big surprise celebrity show biz moment was a previously unannounced last minute surprise addition to the prime time schedule and it was from actor celebrity movie star clint eastwood. whatever the party thought they were going to get out of i don't think they thought they were going to get this. >> so mr. president, how do you -- how do you handle promises that you've made when you are running for election and how do you handle -- how do you handle it? what do you say to people?
do you just -- you know, i know people -- people are wondering -- you don't. okay. i thought -- i thought yeah, does -- i'm not going to shut up. it's my turn. so anyway, we got -- we're going to have -- we're going to have to have a little chat about that. i wonder all these promises and i wondered about when -- when the -- what? what do you want me to tell romney? i can't tell him to do that. he can't do that to himself. you're absolutely crazy. >> it was so weird. it was really weird in the moment. i remember covering the convention that night and sitting there on set with everybody else who was covering
it and we started asking the camera people and the people working the crew and the people randomly coming through does this seem okay to anybody? is there anybody in this room this is working for? it was really weird. clint eastwood's mistfying performance at the mitt romney mom nating convention for the republicans. it was probably the worst moment of that convention for the republicans but it did have competition. the official key note speech at the rnc the year they nominated romney was given by chris christie. it emerged that chris christie apparently threw a fit before going on stage that night and threatened that he would use the "f" word live on prime time television in the middle of his speech unless the rnc played an all hail chris christie intro ductry video.
this was the convention to nominate mitt romney for president but chris christie instead insisted that they play a video about chris christie before he started his speech and when they said they didn't have time to do it he threatened to "f" bomb the whole convention live on prime time television so they played the video and chris christie gave his speech and it wasn't until 16 minutes into his speech that he mentioned mitt romney, that he mentioned the guy who was actually the presidential nominee of the republican party that year who was not chris christie. the first 16 minutes of the speech was all about him and that was after the movie. that key note led to some memorable headlines for chris christie including this one at politico.com that i've always loved. christie's flop. u.s.a. today had this headline, christie praises romney about 16 minutes. governor christie introduces president christie with christie 2016 rnc speech.
mitt romney's acceptance speech for the nomination was better received but it did have one big problem that interfered with the reception that the speech got overall. he gave this sober speech, it was like a stump speech, churning through the main points and all the things he thought would be important to mention about his perspective presidency. the big problem is that he left out entirely the fact that the united states was at war. no mention of major national security issues or the fact that he would be becoming a commander in chief for a nation in war time. that means at a time he was supposed to be maximizing himself instead part of the reaction to the nomination was he got stomped on by veterans across the country that were upset about being snubbed. in the big surprise celebrity moment and the key note and the speech and all the high points
of the convention in 2012 there were problems but there was one lower profile moment at the rnc, one prime time speech which i think nobody had any great expectations for it wasn't a speech that had a bench mark label like a key note or something, but there was one speech in prime time at the rnc that was great. i mean, whether or not you like the politician in question it was a great speech. brought the house down. if there was anybody who emerged as a star from that troubled convention it was a republican governor from a western state not widely known but whatever you think about her politics or whatever you think about the points she's making her, watch how good this was just as a political moment hitting the notes right and bringing people along with you and bringing them to their feet. watch this.
>> i was a young prosecutor i got called to testify against my boss. i could have backed down but i didn't. i stood up to him and he fired me for it. so i took him on. ran against him for district attorney and beat him by a landslide. before i ran for district attorney, two republicans invited my husband and me to lunch and i knew a party switch was exactly what they wanted. so i told chuck we'll be polite, enjoy a free lunch and then say good bye. but we talked about issues. they never use the words republican or democrat, conservative or liberal. we talked about many issues, like welfare. is it a way of life or a hand up? talked about size of government,
how much should it tax families and small businesses? and when we left that lunch, we got in the car and i looked over at chuck and said i'll be damned, we're republicans. >> notice how she finishes that, she gets this huge applause. she doesn't even smile. she waits for it and then allows herself a slight smile to recognize the response she's getting. that was really good. that was governor mar ten ez of new mexico. she just brought the house down. governor martinez is a two term governor of new mexico. i will tell you my honest assessment of how she has done as governor is she hasn't a zishd tenure. she's had problems in that state including embarrassing personal problems that she wouldn't have wanted to be caught on tape that were but you can tell from the fact that she had the one star
performance at the republican convention in 2012 you can tell she has real talent as a politician. she did get elected twice statewide in new mexico as a republican. she's the only female governor that state has ever had. she's the only female hispanic governor any u.s. state has ever had. she's the highest profile latino republican not just nationally now but maybe ever and she also right now has a really important job in republican politics. in addition to being the two term governor of new mexico she's chair of the republican governor's association. last night as donald trump was heading to her state to do his first presidential campaign fundraiser because he's no longer self funding and then afterwards to appear at what ended up being a scarey and violent rally in albuquerque, in advance of that rally last night we played a piece of tape from the local news in albuquerque in which the governor explained why exactly she was not planning to
attend that donald trump event even though he was coming to her state. >> everybody of course wants to know if you will be attending donald trump's rally tomorrow. >> no, i will not. >> what's your reason. tell us why. >> you know, i'm really busy. >> she's really busy. all governors are. she did not go to that donald trump event last night in albuquerque but i think it was a surprise to a lot of people when at that donald trump event last night in albuquerque he decided to go right after the governor and he did it in a way -- i want you to watch this. we haven't edited. i want you to watch it because i feel watching this like this was this very specific and sort of emotionally unusual if i can use that term what i mean by that is that he tends to donald trump trends to go after his political target of the moment. it's always different depending on who the target is and depending on the circumstances but with the governor he's doing
something i've in every seen him do with anybody he seems to be implying she is slow or something. it was a strange thing for him to attack her at all. i think it was also strange the way he attacked her. >> we have to get your governor to get going. she's got to do a better job, okay. your governor has got to do a better job. she's not doing the job. hey, maybe i'll run for governor of new mexico. i'll get this place going. she's not going the job. we got to get her moving. come on, let's go governor. >> we've got to get her moving, let's go, let's go governor. we've got to get her moving. like she's lagging behind. she's slow. she needs to be woken up or something. that's an attack that was in a way i've never heard donald trump attack another politician before but the woman he was attacking is the republican
governor of that state, the first female governor of that state, the first his panic governor anywhere and one of the highest ranking hispanics of the republican party ever, chair of the governor's association. it's hard to imagine how donald trump attacking her fits into any kind of republican presidential campaign play book. but anybody who tells you that donald trump has turned over some new leaf in which he's now acting more presidential these days that person has not been listening to donald trump when he speaks into a microphone at his political events. >> so i looked, hillary clinton has somebody -- did you ever hear of pocohantas, elizabeth warren, she is going out, she's probably the senator that's doing just about the least in the united states senate. she's a total failure. she said she was an indian. she said because her cheek bones
were high she was an indian, that she was native-american and we have these surrogates people like her total failures and i'll tell you what, our country is getting wise to what's happening folks. we're getting wise to what's happening. it's a big scam and we're all getting scammed together and we're not going to take it anymore. we're not going to take it anymore. >> in new mexico donald trump knocking elizabeth warren for having native-american heritage. it's not that she doesn't have the heritage, she does. she's part native-american. donald trump just finding that disgusting and hilarious and rather of calling her pocohantas all the time. he describes hillary clinton as this low life. that's what he calls hillary clinton now.
that's how he talks about her now. >> i see this low life tonight, i see this low life. she puts on an ad did you know that donald trump was rooting against housing because he wants housing to go down because he wanted to buy and they have some clip of me from many years ago where i say yeah if it goes down i'm going to buy. i'm a businessman. that's what i'm supposed to do. that's what i'm supposed to do. we have one person left. she's a total lightweight, believe me. i watch her speaking. she always uses the teleprompter. i watch her speaking. we are going to win north and south and east and west and i will never say this but she's screams. it drives me crazy. i didn't say it. i can't listen. >> republican presidential candidate donald trump last night saying he cannot stand the sound of that woman's voice. calling her that low life.
that's what he calls her now. calling elizabeth warren pocohantas and mocking her for being native-american. it's not like he threw out a script and ended up backsliding into that name calling. this is how his events are structured now. this is how he's running. it's how other people on stage with him get their point across as well. here is the guy that introduced him last night. >> i have heard people say i don't know who to choose, trump or hillary. even bill clinton chose other women so you should too. >> that was the introduction to donald trump last night in albuquerque. that's what it's like now. that's the republican nominee for president. the republican party has this race sewn up right.
there were interruptions last night. there were significant protests outside the event. i do think it's worth dif ating between the kind of violence we have seen inside trump events earlier in his campaign this year and the kind of violence we're now seeing by anti-trump protesters outside those events. it's not like there's any one group that's organizes these instances of violence so it's hard to know how they're going to be occur tailed but at some time they're going to have to come up with a way to try to stop the violence into nonviolent and more constructive demonstrations. that may or may not be the responsibility of democratic campaign against donald trump but as the democratic primary comes to an end and the division becomes clearer between the two
sides in this race, donald trump and not donald trump the democratic side is going to start getting blamed for these violent protests and they have going to have to engage to try to stop this stuff from happening. on the democratic side of the race as it heads toward its closing, we did have something weird happen last night in the lightest primary campaign. something like what happened in 2008 but what happened last night was unusual and we've got details on that plus more ahead. stay with us. just like i would with a real pencil. i've been a forensic artist for over 30 years. i do the composite sketches which are the bad guy sketches. you need good resolution, powerful processor because the computer has to start thinking as fast as my brain does. i do this because i want my artwork to help people.
in the 2008 democratic primary there was a strange result that came out of the great state of washington. in 2008 candidate barack obama won the caucuses in washington state by a huge margin. he won by 37 points. he got a ton of delegates because that was the binding results. that's how the delegates were allocated from washington state. washington is one of those states in addition to holding
their caucus which is the thing that matters for delegates they also thereafter held a primary for no real reason. after barack obama in 2008 won those caucuses by such a huge margin when it came time for the primary a couple of months later he did win again but he won the primary by five points. so in 2008 that change in washington state that was sort of an interesting talking point. actually it was an interesting point of worry at the time for the obama campaign in that 2008 race. this year now in 2016 something like that but more dramatic has happened. when washington state democrats held their caucuses back in march bernie sanders won by a landslide. he won 73 to 27, just a huge win. one of the biggest wins he has had all year. that win netted him a gain of 41 delegates out of the state of washington which is one of the
biggest chunk of delegates he got anywhere. but last night like they did in 2008 washington again after they held their caucus and that's binding and that's where the delegates came from, thereafter a couple of months later held a primary and the primary was last night. it doesn't allocate delegates. it's meaningless. nobody knows why the state of washington does both of these anyway but they do and this time unlike in 2008 when barack obama just won the primary by a significantly smaller margin this time in the washington state primary bernie sanders didn't just win the primary by a significantly smaller margin than he had won the caucus last night in washington state bernie sanders lost the primary. he won by a huge merge in the caucuses but in the primary hillary clinton won. the results were reversed from what happened in that state two months ago. hillary clinton beat bernie sanders last night in the washington primary by six points.
for what it's worth, if you want to compare the turnout in those two contest the meaningless primary last night had double the turnout as compared to the caucus that bernie sanders won in march. it was a meaningless primary. it doesn't make any difference in terms of delegates. bernie sanders still gets all those 40 plus delegates he earned out of washington state because he did so well in that caucus but psychologically that's a weird thing to process in the democrat race. at least that's how it was discussed last night by the nbc affiliate in washington. >> now, the more interesting story of the night might be on the democratic side where hillary clinton has won the primary. she lost the caucuses in a landslide, but here during this primary, this beauty contest primary she is winning over 20 counties. what do these counties tell you. >> it tells you it's much easier to mail in a ballot than to go to a caucus and a much greater number of people turned out and
you're seeing that reflected in her numbers. a lot of complaints that the super delegates should be going to sanders instead of clinton a lot of people say it should go to clinton and i'm seeing those claims from former elected officials in that state. >> this is a big night for hillary clinton. >> symbolically and psychologically and it was also a bad night for the sanders campaign argument that particularly in washington state where he had that huge win the super delegates in that state should flip to him in order to reflect the will of the people in that state. it looked like the will of the people was very pro-bernie sanders but after last night that's harder to say. if the sanders campaign is saying that it still has a chance at the nomination because it can flip the super delegates their argument for doing that in states like washington took a big blow last night.
the democratic race of course is not yet over but it is getting there. and while sanders versus clinton rolls on towards california trump versus clinton rolls on through the mud in new mexico and california and all across the country. we have a live report on that ahead. stay with us. hmmmmmm..... [ "dreams" by beck ] hmmmmm...
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>> new mexico's republican governor martinez speaking earlier this evening responding for the first time after donald trump went after her at a rally in her home state of new mexico last night. joining us now is an investigative reporter in albuquerque. it's really nice to have you here. thanks for joining us. >> reporter: thanks for having me. >> from a national perspective it's interesting to look at what the governor there called the politics here. she's this very high profile republican governor, chair of the republican governor's association now at war with the republican presidential nominee. from your perspective in the state could you see this coming? >> reporter: yeah, i think this is sort of the martinez that new mexico has come to know. she's not afraid to go against her own party. i cover the state house quite a bit and we've seen that the governor has aligned herself with some key democrats and has made some enemies with some key republicans. so she really hasn't shown
herself to us in the last six years as somebody who is a party lined person. she does forge alienss with those who share her views, sometimes democrats and sometimes republicans. this to new mexicans isn't a huge surprise. >> that said given her national role for a while as far as i could tell trying to follow this from here it seemed like she had wanted to not to go to the republican national convention this summer but then it occurred to her that as republican governor's association chair she would have to go. it seems like she's trying to keep her distance here but she does have a national role so how does that factor into this for her. >> reporter: the term she used with us was obligated. she told us on the record that she did not want to go to the rnc and then a few months later she changed her mind and then she used the word obligated as the chairwoman she was obligated to go. so i think that's a key word she's using because i feel like that's her real sentiment. she doesn't want to go. i think she's made it no secret that she does not support donald trump in any way. she endorsed marco rubio days before marco rubio dropped out of the campaign and so like she says she's obligated to go to the rnc as the chairwoman. >> let me ask you about one
specific thing about the way that donald trump attacked her last night at this event in albuquerque. he doesn't always use notes and he doesn't always use a teleprompter. you saw him pick up a piece of paper and start to read from notes when he started to go after her and the specific way he went after her is by imapplying that she's lazy and she needs to get going, come on governor. to me it struck me as an odd emotional tone that had a strange tenure to it. it's not the way i've heard him attack anybody else. is that resonating for a specific reason in new mexico. do you know what he's getting at there.
>> reporter: the context of that and i was in the room with him last night so the context of that was he was reading off of his notes like you mentioned that in the state of new mexico since the year 2000 people who are on food stamps has increased three times today than it was in the year 2000 and so he was saying come on governor like we should do better as if using food stamps or using welfare assistance was some sort of a bad thing for new mexico. the governor's office was really quick to respond to the fact that that's a little bit of an unfair comparison because as we both know governor martin ez was not governor between those years. eight of those years was the governor bill richardson so the governor's office was quick to point out that this particular comment isn't necessarily a fair one by donald trump. >> investigative reporter in albuquerque.
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e-mail it but it's coming on a cd. before we had cds we had floppy disks. before that there was a floppier floppy disks. before that there was an even floppier disk that was eight inches square. who remembers those existed. the drives for those you had to get them wheeled on a rack. hard to believe we used that's for anything. what's harder to believe ask that we are still using those today and what we're using them for. the government accountability office released a report saying those disks are still to this day the means by which we as a nation operate our nation's enter continental ballistic missiles with the war heads on top. it's astonishing.
they coordinate the operational functions of the united states's nuclear forces such as enter continental missiles and bombers on an ibm series one computer era 1970s computing system and uses eight inch floppy discs. this report today from the gio, it's not just a report on nuclear weapons systems, it's on swaths of the federal government that are for a variety of reasons still using super old technology. this report was released today. on the same day that the state department didn't release but did widely leak its own report on how that huge crucial agency in our nation's government conducts its business and how it complies with the laws that says public officials should be accountable to the people, that public officials should be subject to the freedom of information act request in terms
of their official communications and their actions should be kept on record and their stuff should be kept on file in case anybody wants to know. because of that report leaked today now we know officially how it works if you are say the head of a state department, if you are the secretary of state. now by the end of the year the state department says they plan to have purchased an off the shelf software package somewhere from someone, they'll see what's on sale, they'll try to have something by the end of the year that will allow them to preserve their records the way normal people do as a backup created as those files are made but until they get that off the shelf system in place by the end of this year, until then this is what you are supposed to do. this was the system that was in place when hillary clinton was secretary of state. here is how she officially was supposed to conduct her business as secretary of state in order to stay in compliance with all the rules about recordkeeping.
send e-mail on any subject that might be related to government business, print e-mail, take printout off of paper, put it into a box. do not label it, don't file it in any way, don't index it. print it out and put it in a box. receive e-mail, print e-mail, take it off the printer and put it in the box. receive another e-mail print that e-mail take it off the printer and put it in a box. every single e-mail sent or received needs to be printed out and taken off the printer and dropped into a box. i'm not exaggerating. that's the exact system and it's the only approved system for a secretary of state to stay within the rules. this is from the ig report today. quote, the only method by which e-mails could properly be preserved within the office of the secretary and in full compliance was printing and filing. and printing and filing is not a term of art here.
that's not one of those things that means something more complicated than it sounds, that literally you are supposed to print out every sent e-mail and every received e-mail every single one on a piece of paper and stuff it in a box. the state department acknowledges this is not a great system quoting from the report almost 3,000 boxes each filled with hundreds of pages of documents would have to be reviewed manually on a page by page basis in order to identify and review all printed and filed e-mails from the office of the secretary since 1997. so again this system produces no index, no searchable thing, it's just boxes of unsorted paper. if you want to imagine what that looks like on a day to day way, these are all of the e-mails that i sent and received this working week. it's wednesday. in three days i have printed them out per state department regulations.
this is three days' worth and i'm not the secretary of state. i'm not secretary of anything. but this is what secretary of state hillary clinton was supposed to do for four years of e-mail. and that is some of what she did. she handed over 55,000 pages of e-mails on paper from her time as secretary of state from the sever she kept in her basement. the report that's out today says that colin powell didn't use an official department of state e-mail address instead he used a personal address as well. the only difference is that he didn't turn over any of his e-mails while she turned over 55,000 of hers. he did not print and file all of his e-mails, he didn't keep them at all. he never handed over one. the report says when the state department contacted secretary powell to see if some of his e-mails might be findable the department never heard back from him on that. this is the latest chapter in the hillary clinton e-mail
scandal. if you are opposed to hillary clinton as a politician this report will be somewhat gratfying and mostly fast rating. if you are a supporter of hillary clinton this report will be somewhat gratfying and mostly frustrating. if you are not a hillary clinton partisan in either direction you will mostly find this whole topic boring, especially the more time you spend on it. but if you are a person who thinks that some of what the government does is important and you would like it to work well and not be run like a cross of a video game and a hospital where they cooked with pee this report is kind of alarming. this is a bad system. separate and apart from hillary clinton running for president this is a bad system. the fact that this is how our state department runs is alarming.
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this is one of those rules that you should not have to spell out as a rule. this is one of those rules that if you get to the point where you're in high elected office and you're like the governor of a state or something, you think we could assume that you would know this rule. you wouldn't need to be instructed on this being a rule for you as a politician. but apparently we have to say this one out loud, apparently this is a rule that a lot of politicians don't know. here's the rule, if you are under federal investigation, if the fbi is investigating you don't do a photo op at a prison. sometimes high elected officials have to do photo ops but if you have one of those on the books, if you have a scheduled trip to a prison or a probation office or a parole office and then in the interim the fbi starts investigating you and the public
knows you're under federal investigation, don't go ahead with the prison photo op. call in sick. because if you go ahead with the prison photo op then photographers will take pictures of you behind bars because you invited them to go with you to see you at a prison. just in case the people of alabama couldn't paint a metal picture of their governor in jail, here you go. in case any other governors out there needs a refresher on this rule there's the governor of alabama reminding us why this rule is so important but apparently that news did not travel all the way from alabama where their governor is under federal investigation to virginia where their governor is under federal investigation because yesterday the democratic governor terry mcauliffe decided to conduct official state business yesterday at the local probation and parole office.
why he chose to go ahead with the event at the parole office while he is under very public federal investigation, it's anybody's guess. it did lead to this excellent ap photo caption today, virginia governor terry mcauliffe speaks to reporters. mcauliffe questioned about a federal probe of donations to his campaign says he is confident he followed the law. confident he followed the law. if not, the parole officers he just met seemed very very nice. we'll be right back. the e-class has 11 intelligent driver-assist systems. it recognizes pedestrians and alerts you. warns you about incoming cross-traffic. cameras and radar detect dangers you don't. and it can even stop by itself. so in this crash test, one thing's missing:
do you live in the great state of alabama? if so are you a decent and honest person? if so, would you please consider running for office? your state needs you. honestly everybody out there even if you don't live in alabama, if you have decent and honest friends and relatives who live in alabama would you please do alabama a favor and call that person who you know in that state and tell them to run for office? alabama needs help at some very high levels. alabama is in this bizarre situation right now. i don't think i've ever seen another state in a situation like this but the head of the legislative branch and executive branch and judicial branch are all in super deep water at the same alabama supreme court has been removed from the bench for ethics concerns.
the speaker of the house in alabama -- not the past speaker of the house, not some guy who used to be in the legislature, but the guy currently speaker of the house, he's on trial as of this week on 23 felony corruption charges. yesterday there were opening statements in that trial. it was reportedly a packed house, a who's who of alabama politician turned out to see the speaker on trial. one of the things they got to see is the defense lawyer giving his opening remarks in the trial while, quote, occasionally reading from notes scribbled on a napkins. so apparently that's going to be a fun trial. and now in terms of the guy in charge of the executive branch, well, now the birmingham news has broken what appears to be pretty big news about the potential criminal prosecution of alabama's republican governor robert bentley. over possible abuse of state resources following his alleged affair with a whom who was his top aide at the time. a grand jury is now under way
for governor bentley. we had know -- or at least it had been previously reported that the fbi and other federal authorities were investigating the governor, but this grand jury thing, this appears to be a new phase in that process. the birmingham news obtained a letter sent to the lawyer of the individual who has been questioned regard the affair. that was written under the subject line "grand jury investigation." this is how we're learning it. does the grand jury's investigation mean that new information will come to light in this case? what exactly would a grand jury be looking for? does this mean that we're closer to a potential indictment for governor bentley? if he is indicted, does he stay governor? speaker of the house stayed speaker of the house once he was indicted. joining us is the reporter who first broke the the story, john archibald, a columnist for "the birmingham news." thanks for being here tonight. >> thanks, rachel. appreciate it. we had reports of at least
one investigation alongside the state investigations that we know about. how further does it tell us about the kind of hot water that robert bentley is in, to know that a grand jury is investigating? >> i think it tells us a lot, and has to make him a bit nervous as well. we've talked to people who have been interviewed by the fbi, by the postal service, by the i.r.s., the attorney general's office, the ethics commission, but seeing that grand jury is taking place is important. it's also important that we learned of it when the u.s. attorney for the middle district here was announcing his own recusal. that's important, because he is pretty close to the governor's lawyer. so it makes a lot of people who want to see justice done feel a little better about that. matter. >> with that u.s. attorney being recused from this case presumably because of that kind of potential involvement with
some of the players here, the justice department has assigned a different u.s. attorney from out of state to be involved in this case instead. do you have any sense of what that might mean? or any sense of the reputation of that u.s. attorney? >> no, i don't know that u.s. attorney. i take that as a pretty good sign, because none of the players that i have talked to have a clue about him, which seems to me he's not well known here, which we can only take as a good sign. >> part of what has been remarkable is watching this is how intertwined all these scandals are, bentley replacing the chief justice, who might be hearing a peal if the speaker of the house is indictmented who might call the governor as a witness. the intermingling can be confusing, but mostly it's just remarkable. i wonder, john, if there is a senses of crisis in the state, to have everything falling down in this ways at the same time? >> well, there is. we kind of call that a
target-rich environment around here, i think. there is that sense, but there's also a real fatigue with it. a lot of people have just kind of turned off particularly from the speaker of the house matter. and throwing their hands up, saying what can we do? like you said earlier, somebody run. >> last question for you, john. if the governor were indicted by this grand jury, would he have to resign? would you expect had imto resign if he didn't have to? >> yes, i would expect him, if he's indieted on a felony charge. john archibald, a guy who's had a bunch of scoops in this story and very kind to help us understand them here. thanks, john. appreciate it. >> thank you. a situation this alabama almost unbelievable. all three branches of government blowing up at the same time, all from the top. stay with us. more ahead.
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road trip! well, that was quick. it's wednesday today. on monday of this week, just two days ago, president obama confirmed reports from the weekend that a u.s. military drone had targeted and killed the head of the taliban. the drone strike happened on saturday then on sunday individuals of taliban began telling journalists that their leader was, today the taliban as an organization has confirmed this themselves. they put out this statement officially proclaiming the martyrdom of their leader. their last leader was dead for two years before we learned about it, so this one, between this weekend and learning about it today officially, this was quick, as was their announcement about their new guy. the taliban in afghanistan, they've only had two leaders in
the past two decades. mullah omar was the first guy, when they took over afghanistan, he was their leader. he was dead for two years. after that we his name was mullah actar mansour. now that both mullah omar and his successor are dead, the taliban is getting only their third leader in 20 years. this is him. the taliban announcement also names mullah omar's son and as one of the top deputies, but reuters is told the reason they didn't put the haqqani network guy overall is because the united states has a $10 million bounty on the head of the haqqani knit work. they didn't want to deal with the risk of putting that guy in charge of the taliban when the u.s. is offering $10 million to anybody who can serve up his head.
at times like this, with guys like these, it's nice to know they're thinking of us. that does it for us tonight, we'll see you tomorrow. now it's time for lawrence o'donnell. 54 days before donald trump has -- as of tonight, he has a way to go, with paul ryan and susanna martinez. >> what's new? >> not much. hillary clinton again dogged by her e-mail controversy. >> a harsh rebuke from the state department's inspector general's office. >> she's as crooked as they come. >> i've not seen the bitterness in our politics like we have >> he's resisting jumping on the trump bandwagon, which is good. >> america can do better. run fopo