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"mpt daily" starts right now. if it's tuesday, for trump, the changes to his campaign cosmetic or it the start of a real course correction? one day after firing his top aide, in the midst of a serious cash crunch, can the billionaire businessman turn on a dime? it's "mtp daily" and it starts right now. good evening, i'm peter alexander in again today for my friend, chuck todd. welcome to "mtp daily." struggling trump campaign trying to hit the reset button as hillary clinton unleashes a barrage of attacks on trump's campaign manager. after firing corey lewandowski the trump campaign was hit with a harsh reality check disclosing they have a paltry $1.3 million in the bank at the end of may. now compare that to clinton's
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campaign war chest of more than $42 million at the end of the month. which clinton is unloading in a blitz of more than $23 million in battleground state tv ads airing across the country right now. trump, meanwhile, has spent zero, zero dollars on battleground ads. the campaign says that it doesn't need to spend big sums of money to get its message to the public. they say they'll catch up in the money race that they've only started fund-raising in earnest. this afternoon the clinton campaign kept the heat on trump speaking in battleground ohio, clinton portraying trump as a business fraud who would plunge the economy into recession as the president. >> just like he shouldn't have his finger on the button, he shouldn't have his hands on our economy. the economist intelligence unit comes out with a new list of threats every month. it includes things like
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terrorism and the disintegration of europe. and this month, number three on the list is donald trump becoming president of the united states. >> clinton went after trump's business record, his past rhetoric on working women, his temperament and his aggressive policies on immigration, taxes, debt, you name it. >> this is his one move. he makes over-the-top promises that if people stick with him, trust him, listen to him, put their faith in him, he'll deliver for them. he'll make them wildly successful. and then everything falls apart and people get hurt. those promises you're hearing from him at his campaign rallies, they are the same promises he made to his customers at trump university. >> trump quickly responded with a flurry of activity on social media, he blamed the stagnant economy on clinton in this
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instagram video. he went after clinton's judgment on twitter with references to benghazi victim ambassador chris stevens. he attacked clinton on immigration saying her open borders policy will drive down wages. he brought up the e-mail controversy painting her as inept and not able to run the economy. he threw in jabs at clinton's foreign policy as well including references to the growth of isis under president obama. but these attacks were tame compared to what we've seen from trump from the past. in addition, we also saw something notable today. it was unprecedented for trump. a traditional rapid response operation. his campaign blasting out a series of press releases heavy on policy and numbers. this was a significant change in tone and tenner for the campaign coming as trump prepares to deliver his rebuttal to clinton's address tomorrow in new york city. i'm joined by nbc's caskasie hu in columbus, ohio, the buckeye
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state. nbc's katy tur is with the trump campaign at his headquarters in new york city. kasie, we'll start with you. the economy obviously a thorny issue for clinton. folks trust trump more than they trust clinton on this topic. so why did she choose this issue at this moment when trump's campaign was facing a lot of its own problems? >> reporter: well, remember, peter, this is a speech that was delayed in part because of the tragedy in orlando. so this was actually something that they had initially planned to be part of a swing through ohio and pennsylvania focused on those economic issues in the rust belt. but, of course, that got put off so rescheduled for this week and they, of course, did come back here to ohio to this vocational training center here to give this speech. trying to send a message on this issue, you know, of course, donald trump has really struck a chord especially among a lot of these blue collar voters and there are some concerns that he could potentially reach out to some voters who've been
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disengrdis e disengaged particularly white men who live in places like ohio and pennsylvania, so i think that was pretty deliberate on her part and i also think that initially this was coming on the heels of that, what many people believed was a successful national security foreign policy speech. that she'd given in san diego. and hillary clinton really found a groove in attacking donald trump on that front. and that's what you saw today. you saw more of her essentially trying to use donald trump's own words against him. there was one moment where she said, she described her aides giving her the research for this speech and reading through his quotes and saying, really, he actually said that? so you can hear the conviction in her voice there. but i have to tell you, peter, this ground is a little bit less comfortable, it seems, for hillary clinton, on the economy than that foreign policy ground was. and to a certain extent, that's just because of the reality of the situation. while many of those numbers, the economy has improved, it's added jobs, the unemployment rate has
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gone down, for a lot of people they're still not feeling it and she has to defend an obama record on the economy that a lot of people just don't believe or aren't feeling in their own lives is successful. that's inherently difficult to do. >> she may have to defend her own record broadly, not just the clinton family, the clinton foundation has come under attack from donald trump. how are they preparing for the speech that he's going to be giving tomorrow morning? >> reporter: well, for the most part, peter, i think you can expect them to respond to any personal attacks, for example, in the way that they have all the way along. which is to just ignore them and essentially try to rise above the fray. now, there are some thorny issues around the clinton foundation and other areas where it's not quite personal the way some attacks on, say, bill clinton's personal life that donald trump has leveled might be personal, so i think at this point, you know, they need to make sure that they are prepared to deal with those things and i think you can see the clinton
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campaign coming out with many of the defenses they've offered in the past pointing to, say, the food wo good works the foundation has done among other things. i also think hillary clinton has planned for tomorrow a follow-up to her speech here today that's going to focus more on her record and her plan for the economy. while we heard her go after trump here today, she's going to outline more specifics tomorrow. so i think you're going to see them try to put the focus on that. >> today's speech really punctuating what has been a terrific stretch for the clinton campaign. their best stretch over the course of this campaign. donald trump on the other hand starting what he hopes is the beginning of a new good stretch going forward. katy, i know we've kind of used this language before, but was today the start of this, like, trump 2.0? we saw something we'd never seen from the trump campaign before which was an old-school policy-oriented rapid response. >> reporter: tradition i think is the word that you're looking for, peter, and you really hit the nail on the head in that
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intro. we saw him tweet out nine separate times in response to this hillary clinton speech. we got nine different e-mails from the campaign. that is called rapid response. it's traditionally what a communications team and any political campaign does. and they start doing it from the beginning. donald trump has never done that. he has been his own rapid response tweeting out his own responses to the various attacks that are coming his way. oftentimes tweeting out insults instead of anything substantial. today we saw a little more of the substantial. this is what we could consider at least on day one trump 2.0 and while sources in the party and sources on the hill and donors don't necessarily believe that donald trump will change with this ousting of his campaign manager, corey lewandowski, and the more traditional campaign manager, more old-school campaign manager paul manafort taking over, they do believe that the campaign, itself, is going to change. and that means they're going to have things like a communications team. like rapid response.
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stuff that we saw today. they believe it's going to normalize procedure and they're hoping, at least on the party side, they're going to be able to capitalize on this frustration that the american public feels about the economy. as you said, they think that he would do a better job than hillary clinton would. and they want to make sure that they can take that as well as they can and then put that out there and make donald trump own it instead of having hillary clinton dent his armor over and over again without any real response back. >> so, katy, help us set the table for tomorrow morning. what do we expect out of trump's speech tomorrow attacking clinton? this, too, was a speech that was expected to happen, frankly, right after orlando. they delayed it, of course, given what took place, that tragedy in florida. now they want to squeeze it is before he heads overseas to scotland. >> reporter: i think they're going to throw the kitchen sink at her. as you said, this was delayed because of orlando. they had this in the works.
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that means they've had more time to work on this speech. corey lewandowski is no longer involved so they've had more time to get paul manafort, at least, to get their message into donald trump's head and i think we saw a preview of it today when he was tweeting out his responses toward hillary clinton. hillary defrauded america as secretary of state, used it as a rich personal hedge fund to get herself rich, corrupt, dangerous, dishonest. that's what he tweeted today. i expect to see him talk about the clinton foundation and the troubles he believes they are having. benghazi, her reaction to that. also libya. her decision to go into libya. he says that he was against it even though he has said that he was before it in the past. he's going to try and paint her as a danger to the american economy. >> right. >> reporter: and a danger to american interests overseas. >> kasie hunt, katy tur, thank you very much. we're joined by gene sperling, he was the top economic adviser to both presidents barack obama and bill clinton. he's now advising hillary clinton's campaign.
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mr. sperling, thanks for your time. why isn't clinton's economic message connecting nationally? voters, as we've been reporting, trust trump more than they do clinton to handle the nation's economy. >> i think, there's no question, donald trump is known as a businessman. he's been on tv. of course, he's going to start out with that perception. but notice people do believe that she is the one who fights f for the middle class and i believe that as time goes by, his purported strength, his private sector experience, will go from being a strength to his achilles' heel because i think people will see, and have already started to see, that one, when it comes to talking about the economy, his comments about that america would consid consider defaulting, printing money. these are dangerous words. what a president says doesn't just -- loose lips just don't sink ships. they can sink the economy. he has shown no sense he has the
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temperament to be the person at the helm. secondly, when people start looking at his private sector experience, what they're going to find is some of the worsts ethics and values in terms of normal hardworking americans. this won't be complicated stuff. when you look at what he's done at trump u. -- >> a lot of americans have been -- there's a lot of questions about hillary clinton's ethics and values, obviously, on all sorts of issues over the course of this campaign. >> hold it. on the economy, which what we're talking about, is that donald trump, you've seen story after story from reuters, "usa today," "wall street journal" that donald trump has throughout his career stiffed hardworking small businesspeople of thousands and thousands of dollars to so many. these are -- carpenters, mechanics, window makers. these are regular hardworking americans who he has stiffed repeatedly. his trump university sought to get older people to take money out of their 401(k)s for this fraudulent proposal.
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they would not give a refund to a mother and teacher with a down syndrome child who was bilked out of $25,000. >> so let me -- >> when people see this is how he has made his money, what it's going to show is he's not a successful businessperson who created value and jobs. if he's made money, it's at the expense of other people, expense of hardworking small businesses, average americans. >> let me get in here really quickly. >> a weakness, not a strength. >> hillary clinton's obviously had plenty of her own weaknesses through the course of this campaign. the question, less on donald trump, respecting this is binary, but on hillary clinton, the woman you advise specifically here, is clinton running on four more years of the obama economy? >> no, i think that she is running on the idea that barack obama inherited a near great depression. that he did a very strong job facing a recalcitrant republican congress. when you think about it, when mitt romney ran for president, he promised by the end of his
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first term, unemployment would go to 6%. it's now 4.7%. barack obama with the difficult congress he has has made great progress. she's also made clear that this economy is not strong enough. that wages are stagnant for the middle class. >> where does she disagree? where does she and the president disagree economically? >> well, i think the place they may have some disagreement is on trade. she is going to be taking a tougher approach on trade. she is not supporting the tpp. i think you're going to see a very aggressive effort against -- against china, you know, much more aggressive litigation. i think that -- and taking them to task for where they're breaking our trade rules. >> donald trump says that's his strength. >> but i think where hillary clinton's strength is going to be is that she has an economic plan in which the entire focus is on strengthening middle class security. about whether jobs are being created here and she's putting forward specifics on modernizing
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infrastructure. creating jobs through energy, manufacturing. about debt-free college. about giving more people the skills and kcredentials they ned to fill the jobs that are open. about paid family leave and the other things that are important for family security. every day, they're going to be hearing her with a concrete plan for the middle class and from him probably bombastic lines about isolationism, anti-immigrant rhetoric which is not going to be good for the economy. it's not good for our values as a country. >> let me in for a second. hillary clinton dodged this socialism question. bernie sanders, you remember, still in this race right now. she was asked by chris matthews about it earlier this year. i want to play it for our audience then get you to help her out. >> what's the difference between a socialist and a democrat? >> well -- >> is that a question you want to answer or would you rather not politically? >> you know, you'd have to ask -- >> i'm asking you. you're a democrat. he's a socialist. >> i'm not one. >> okay. what's the difference between a socialist and democrat? >> i can tell you what i am, ast
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a progressive democrat. >> how is that different from a socialist? >> who likes to get things done and believes we're better off in this country when we're trying to solve problems together. >> gene, help her out. what's the difference between a democrat and a socialist? >> look, i'm not here to do general definitions, but i believe that the kind of progressive democrat that she is is one that understands that we're, of course, a market economy, that we, of course, rely on job creation, small business, entrepreneurship here. but believes that we as a country have a responsibility in the face of strong economic change to make sure that we are shaping that change so that it is not hollowing out the middle class or being indifferent to the middle class as i think we've seen from too many republican administrations in the republican leadership and one that is actively seeking to shape economic change so that it strengthens the middle class. that it focuses on our middle class families seeing their wages, hopes, their aspirations, their dignity and security rising. that is the singular focus of
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what her campaign is, why she's running for president and i think that's going to do a lot better than mr. trump who has spent a lot of his life taking advantage of the very middle class people -- >> a point you've certainly made well here. gene sperling, thank you very much for your time. we appreciate it. >> thanks for having any. joined now by msnbc political analyst rick tyler who was, of course, a top adviser on the cruz campaign. nice to see in person. thanks so much for your time. no secret that the cruz campaign let you go. can the firing of a top aide, cannot change the trajectory of a campaign? >> yeah, i think so. the campaign was bleeding. i mean, the numbers are -- the negative numbers are so high. 77% of women with african-americans, with hispanics, on and on. and they needed to show, especially their donors and their base, that something's going to change. >> so does this -- is this enough to show that something's going to change? >> we'll see. >> every time they said there's a 2.0 or something's going to change, you turn the tv on another day later and it didn't change. >> the problem is this feels like day one of the trump
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campaign, literally. >> just put out his first fund-raising e-mail today. >> right. it's day 435 of the clinton campaign since she announced. >> yeah. >> now you can see the difference in the fund-raising, the ground game, in the staffing, the rapid response, and the research and the ability to put out a speech like she did today. >> we've seen resets before. does this one -- do you have faith this one has staying power for the campaign? >> yeah, i just don't know if it's going to be enough. we saw a dramatic improvement today, right? so we actually had a rapid response. we actually had someone besides trump trying to protect his own brand. >> it's obvious there were no exclamation points at the ends of tweets, right? very simple terms, the points were clear and policy oriented as opposed to the language he's used which has been more bombastic and everything else. >> the things i think they could or should do because party unity is a big problem now because you have leaders in washington, d.c., haven't fully embraced donald trump, you could see a scenario where the congress and frump get together on a set of policy initiatives.
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so what does the first 12100 da of the trump presidency look like? the first year? the first four years? it has to be bigger than trump, yes, i've heard all the things about trump but i bllike what they're fro posing. buys them time and confidence with their base that they're going to accomplish something. >> the question is, is donald trump capable of the restraint necessary in a campaign like this? as we just talked about, the new filings coming out at the end of the month of may. he beat you guys. >> yeah. >> your former campaign at the beginning of the month of may. he he had a full month to himself and yet raised $3 million -- >> $2 million which was his. >> of course. is he capable of using his hands for pinger pointing to being the guy who can graciously put his hand out and ask for cash? >> it remains to be seen. donald trump said many times i can change, i can change. he hasn't changed. i don't know if he's not getting the right support to change or
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right network or support group to help him change, but he's not changed. >> what happens to republicans like yourself who are still waiting to see that change to be convinced this is a candidate you can support? what do you do? how long can you wait? >> it's a conundrum. it really is. we want to keep the houses. it hasn't zodone us any good. we want to keep the senate. that hasn't done us any good. they say get the house, the presidency, the presidency, everything is good. >> is anything going to change in cleveland? >> look, it's an outside chance but if he continues to bleed the polling numbers and keeps continuing to lose by double digits, and the party gets a sense that this nominee will be a catastrophic for the republican party, you could see something change. right now today, very doubtful. >> what does he need to say tomorrow when he speaks about hillary clinton? a couple weeks ago when the i.g. report came out, this should have been a home run for trump. he could have spent two weeks attacking hillary clinton. >> the i.g. report --
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>> he missed the boat on all these things. still the conversation was based on a judge in indiana, his heritage, and the muslim ban he questioned again and questioning whether president obama sympathizes with terrorists. >> most people in the middle class, that what hillary is working on and that's what donald trump has been wanting to get, too. gene sperling, every one of his solutions is the government solution. the government is going to take care of you, somehow the government is going to make everything better. we need someone on the republican side to articulate how free market created the wealthiest society in all of human history, like not even close, in such a very short period of time. >> is donald trump capable of being that person? >> i don't know. i mean, he is a businessman. i think he is a smart man. but if he could articulate that free market works, it's best for the middle class, it's best for the poor, it's the equalizer in terms of economic opportunity. and if you don't have -- the government is not going to make everything equal for everybody. and they can't create wealth and they can't invent, can't
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innovate, they can't create. that has its consequences. >> rick tyler in person, nice to see you. appreciate it very much. coming up, donald trump hits hillary clinton on her faith as he courts evangelical leaders today. tony perkins of the family research council joins me with details from today's meeti inme and later new hampshire senator kelly ayotte seeking compromise on gun reform. will it help or hurt her re-election bid? stay tuned for the race of the day. new hampshire edition. o don't hs to basic banking, but that is changing. at temenos, with the microsoft cloud, we can enable a banker to travel to the most remote locations with nothing but a phone and a tablet. everywhere where there's a phone, you have a bank. now a person is able to start a business, and employ somebody for the first time. the microsoft cloud helped us to bring banking to ten million people in just two years. it's transforming our world.
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attendees. he also unveiled an evangelical advisory board that includes big names like former congresswoman michele bachmann, and jerry falwell jr. here's what a few people who attended today's meeting told nbc news. >> we don't think that there's going to be somebody in the white house that's like us. we don't necessarily even think that there's necessarily going to be somebody in the white house that's for us. but we don't want somebody in the white house that's against us. >> i think it was a tremendous meeting and everybody had an opportunity to really hear the man personally. >> i think he hit it out of the ballpark today. >> donald trump's unpredictable, but unfortunately, hillary clinton is completely predictable and, you know, he was warmly received. he didn't do anything, i think, to hurt himself in the event. >> seven evangelical leaders who were in those meetings told spoke to reporters afterwards. they were all asked if they would endorse trump. none of them said they would. that includes my next guest, tony perkins, president of the
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family research council and he helped facilitate trump's meeting with faith leaders in new york city today. tony, very much appreciate your time. you're also a delegate as we just said, you have not committed to trump. after today's visit, are you closer to supporting him? and why or why not? >> well, thanks for the invitation to be here. what this was about was beginning a conversation between donald trump and the evangelical community because there's a big gap between them and this was the beginning of a process in which he had the opportunity to share his thoughts on some issues that were very important. >> so what's the biggest obstacle for the evangelical community with donald trump right now? what's the one thing you're waiting to hear that you have not heard that would satisfy you? >> well, i think, look, when you look at a political figure, past performance is the best indication of future performance. i was in public office. i've worked in this realm for 20 years. he has no record. he's not held public office. >> he formerly said he's
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pro-choices. that's something that haunted him. >> he is. he had policies in the past different than the policy sames he's stated. even in this campaign he's changed positions from one thing to another. that's okay. as you learn, you change. that's a good trait. however, there's nothing to really anchor to so i think people are waiting to hear what he's saying concretely. for instance, today a lot of discussion about religious liber liberty, lot of discussion about the military. i think a running mate is going to be very important. does he pick someone who has a conservative track record, that has a relationship with social conservatives? those are going to be important factors as people -- >> who are some running mate names that would satisfy evangelicals right now to give you a sense that he has that anchor that would be on the ticket with him? name a few names you'd be looking to hear that you'd say, okay, now we're on to something. >> well, there's a number that actually ran in this presidential cycle. i mean, you have rick santorum, you have governor mike huckabee, you have t ted cruz who would me an excellent running mate.
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>> ted cruz yet to endorse donald trump, let's be clear. >> i understand that. i'm not saying it's going to happen. i'm saying what would be something that would bring evangelical social conservatives along, give them that comfort. i think senator jeff sessions of alabama who's been an adviser to donald trump would be another one. there's several out there that would do the trick. >> so pastor, today bishop e.w. jackson, a virginia pastor who attended the meeting today that trump held, published this video of trump on his twitter account. take a listen very quickly. >> hillary in terms of religion. she's been in the public eye for years and years and yet there's no -- there's nothing out there. there's, like, nothing out there. it's going to be an extension of obama, but it's going to be worse because with obama, you had your guard up. with hillary, you don't. and it's going to be worse. >> donald trump saying we don't know anything about hillary in terms of religion. in fact, we do. she's been public about her methodist faith. she's spoken about it, she's
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written about it. she attended church. she actually had a close relationship with billy graham. so is hillary clinton's faith the real source of concern? >> first off, i don't think faith should be used as a weapon. i think fait h is a building block, a bridge. what people are looking for, polling suggests 60% of americans want a leader who readily recognizes god, prays to god. i think it's the fact that they want someone to whom this political figure will be accountable when they're not watching. so faith is a very important part of our political process. today was a discussion about policy issues and how one's faith guides those issues. today was conservative evangelical social conservatives. >> but this, mr. perkins, to be fair, this was also from today. he questioned the president's religion. also questioned hillary clinton's. in the course of the campaign, these are some of the things he said about some campaign opponents. just take a listen. >> to the best of my knowledge, not too many evangelicals come
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out of cuba. okay? just remember that. i'm presbyterian. boy, that's down the middle of the road, folks. in all fairness, i mean, 7th day adventists i don't know about. he's a choke artist. i don't believe -- are you sure he's a mormon? are we sure? he choked. >> we saw him criticizing ted cruz's faith, questioning ben carson's faith, questioning the mormon faith of mitt romney. you say faith should not be used as a weapon in a campaign. this candidate, the republican presumptive nominee, has used it repeatedly throughout the course of the campaign and today again questioned his democratic rival's faith. how do you react to that? >> i go back, repeat what i said, i don't think faith should be used as a weapon. i don't agree with those statements. i think stating where one stands in their relationship with god and how important their christian faith in this case is in how they come to conclusions, decisions, guidance, is important to know. attacking another candidate's
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faith to me is not a positive and i think to many evangelicals, it's not, either. look, this election is not about scaring evangelicals to the polls to vote with what hillary clinton might do to the country. evangelicals are waiting for someone to cast a vision of how they can make america great again. that's why i think people are listening to donald trump. today was a first step of a journey of building that relationship. that's why you didn't see a lot of endorsements. it was simply the beginning of a conversation. >> so on faith, donald trump has said that his favorite bible verse was an eye for an eye. as an evangelical, does that worry you? does that comfort you? what do you make of that? >> look, in the primary, i endorsed tk endorsed ted cruz. i was active, i knew his faith construct was an evangelical solid christian world view. >> as you learn about trump's view, what do you think? >> i'm left with two options. i'm left -- i haven't endorsed, by the way. i'm left with hillary clinton or donald trump. donald trump, look, for the last
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7 1/2 years evangelicals have been attacked by the policies of this administration and ability to live their lives according to their faith. what donald trump said today, why i believe he gained a lot of ground, while he may not share the same theological views that all of those evangelicals have, what he said was i understand the importance of religious freedom and i'll defend your right to live according to your faith. i understand virtue is important in our society. we may not agree on everything, but i will defend your religious freedom. given what we've seen in the last 7 1/2 years, that was a very significant and important message to evangelicals. >> tony perkins from the family research council joining us live today. mr. perkins, thank you very much. >> thank you. still ahead in our race of the day, gun reform, of course, the hot topic in new hampshire's senate race. can kelly ayotte's latest vote silence critics backing challenger maggie hasen? stay tuned.
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up next in our race of the day, the gun debate hits new hampshire's senate race. first, the cnbc market wrap. >> thanks, peter. stocks today posted modest gains. the s&p rises 5 and the nasdaq adds more than 6. federal reserve chair janet yellen gave her semiannual monetary policy testimony before the senate banking committee. in her remarks she noted uncertainty about the economic outlook and vulnerability in the global economy. and some breaking news. tesla offered to buy solar city for more than $26 preside.50 a . both company are run by billionaire elon musk. that's it from cnbc, first in business worldwide. with the lobster and shrimp... ...you love in so many new dishes, you're gonna wanna try... ...every last one. like the new coastal lobster & shrimp. with a wood-grilled lobster tail, ...wild-caught red shrimp crusted with panko, ...and shrimp fresh off the grill and brushed with... ...summer ale bbq sauce. or try the new lobster & shrimp overboard,
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back now with our race of the day. we're looks at the granite state where incumbent senator kelly
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ayo ayotte is in the midst of a tough fight against democratic governor maggie hassan. in the wake of the orlando massacre the gun control group found by former congresswoman gabby giffords has been running this ad against ayotte. >> senator kelly ayotte voted against more background checks. she stands with the washington gun lobby. >> a poll commissioned by that same pac after the ad started running shows hassan ahead of ayotte 49%-45%. this wpoll was conducted before last night's gun votes in the senate. ayotte broke with many republicans to vote for democratic senator dianne feinste feinstein's amendment, ban people on the terrorist watch list from being able to buy guns. ayotte's campaign accused her kritices of playing politics. we reached out to the senator's office who tells us ayotte is, "focused on solutions that can get bipartisan support and pass the senate which is why she's been working on her colleagues
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dead even there according to a new poll. here it is. in a tight race, it's places like columbus that could make the difference for clinton because in contrast to a place like cleveland that's long been a democratic stronghold, columbus is a spot where democrats still have room to grow. the democratic vote in franklin county has been steadily growing over the last two decades. and the county is much more diverse than ohio as a whole. the population there, about 67% white compared to more than 80 pk on average in the entire state. columbus is growing quickly. more than ten times faster than the state's average. we'll be right back with "the lid." we were born 100 years ago into a new american century.
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trump's own products are made in a lot of countries that aren't named america. trump ties are made in china. trump suits in mexico. trump furniture in turkey. and i'd love for him to explain how all that fits with his talk about america first. >> that was hillary clinton today in columbus, ohio, hitting donald trump on his business deals. we're going to talk that and the rest of the day in politics right now. this is "the lid." joining me is clarence page, columnist for the "chicago tribune." nbc news political editor, kerry dan. former bush/cheney senior adviser. thanks to see you all in person. thanks for joining us today. the clinton campaign, clarence, we'll start with you, coming out with a web ad today, of course, they're making the same argument clinton made in her speech today attacking donald trump in effect as being reckless, in terms of the economy, calling him a business fraud.
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she still faces a real deficit against trump on the issue of the economy. how big of a challenge is this for her? it worked on foreign policy a couple weeks ago. >> right. >> will it work on business, where a lot of people say we need something different, we need a businessman? >> yeah, she's obviously going right at that business image pointing out every failure she can find on his record. everything that looks like what he's buying overseas products and services. everything that goes against the core message that donald trump puts out. both of them, of course, have tremendous obstacles in their own high disapproval ratings. we've never seen a campaign like this where both republican and democratic nominee have more than 50% disa acdisapproval. >> unfave bl for donald trump close to 80%. >> that's right. >> carrie, specifically, what was striking today, new poll numbers came out. survey monkey poll has a six-point advantage nationally for hillary clinton right now. in some battlegrounds even after
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an awful couple weeks, trump is still neck and neck in ohio, basically even in pennsylvania, trailing in florida right now. how concerning is this for hillary clinton's campaign that with this huge head start, in effect, they're still neck and neck with him in a lot of these places? >> one thing the clinton out ist the poll was in the field from the 8th to the 19th of june. they launched their huge ad buy on june 16th. their hope is this huge advantage they have in fund raising. she raised nine times as much as donald trump did. they're hoping to use that huge advantage, financially, to translate into big ad buys and publicize that message taking aim at him on foreign policy, on the economy to create a bigger advantage in places like ohio and pennsylvania. >> he's going to take aim tomorrow. a speech he's been touting since i was up in new york and the massacre happened in orlando. this is expected to go right
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after hillary clinton and the clinton foundation. what does he need to accomplish tomorrow? >> he needs to accomplish he's presidential and he can go after hillary clinton on the facts. >> that's the key in this whole thing. >> a lot of republican, myself included, are frustrated with the trump. when you look at the jobless economy and secretary clinton and the e-mail situation and legitimate policy difference, donald trump has refused or he can't do there in terms of going toe to toe with secretary clinton. what he needs to do tomorrow is have some substance behind these attacks. >> he needs to have some st substance and we're still
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holding our breath. he reads the teleprompter. >> it doesn't seem authentic. >> trump was defending his rhetoric on the today show. sgling i ha >> i think i have to be who i am. i don't want to be a phony like clinton where she reads stuff written up by high priced talent. i want to read what i am. >> then on twitter, as clinton game her speech, he was much or policy oriented. is authenticity challenge for donald trump. we know the way he is, but if he tries to be what a lot of people want him to be, it's a bit of catch 22. >> we've seen this from experience where he's promised party leaders he was going to be more presidential and that lasted 12 or 15 hours and he was back to zapping people with his
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tweets. he was remarkably subdued. i don't know if it was sedatives or what. i don't know how long it will last. >> does that widen the audience? it worked in the primaries well but then he faced real challenges because a lot of other people were like i don't know about this. >> there's two campaigns. there's the primary that donald trump dominated with a lot of free media. he was not substantive against 16 other substantive people. as he transitions to the general campaign, i think he looks in the mirror and says i don't recognize myself if i have these high priced policy people around me because that's not what i am. he has a point because he can say that's not who gotten me this far. >> senator bob corker said it was exciting to see the changes into a new direction the trump
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kpa campaign is going. ask it possible that those folks within the republican establishment can start to feel more comfortable with this campaign. only a couple of days ago two of my colleague, paul ryan said you're free to go with your conscience. >> donald trump needs to speak to swing voters, independents, college educated whites. he's doing well among those w without a college education. now he's speaking to a wider group. donald trump, it's not the primary anymore. he has to be concerned about down ballot races. a lot of anxiety you're hearing from members of congress isn't just about the white house. it's about the down ballot. >> there's never been anyone
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around donald trump that can say you're wrong. this is not the strategy we should go down. it's yes, sir mr. trump. >> it's a pivot that things will change. >> the grown ups now are running the household here, not the children. the question becomes, and we've had this conversation for the last three months, is can donald trump pivot. >> that's the question. can this stick? will it last? >> old men don't change their ways that much. i know because i'm almost 70. >> we like you just the way you are. >> you had a hit on what the problem was. he said let donald trump be trump. he did let trump be trump. that's not working for the general. he's got to be able to placate and ease some of the concerns people have out there even if they don't vote for him, they can't be scared of him being president. people are really scared of the
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idea of him being in the white house. >> these numbers were striking. 1.3 cash on had now the the gut reaction across people who know why this matters, is what. >> it's a number that would be impressive for a house candidate. >> district attorney. >> hillary clinton raised 30 times as much as donald trump. campaigns aren't just about persuasion, they're able mobilization. >> stick around. we'll be right back. nexium 24 hour introduces new, easy-to-swallow tablets.
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that does it for us tonight. we'll be back tomorrow. "with all due respect" starts right now. i'm mark halperin. >> you're not the only one who can move products. >> trump ties, bar ware, i could go on and on. ♪ >> good evening on this first day paul manafort full day. hillary clinton gave a scathing speech about the ecy,

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