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>> if you believe that donald trump was going to be the nominee and you believe that bernie sanders was going to come close, please raise your hand. if you raised your hand, don't drive an automobile. you are a danger to yourself and others. good morning. it is thursday, june 30th. welcome to "morning joe" with a sunset we have legendary columnist and nbc contributor
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mike barnicle. >> he lost about what, willie? >> 20% of his body. can we get some encyclopedia britanica. >> why are we in this studio? >> i don't know. >> it airs at 6:00 p.m. marc halprin. >> can i ask you a question. he says his sweaters make him feel -- >> is it warm in here? you can't even look at the sweater. what's wrong with the sweater? >> it's not sweater weather. >> will somebody get me a jacket? he can't even look at my sweater. >> he needs a towel. >> does he not see kornacki.
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>> you have a guy over here melting down. what are you doing? >> it's a new studio and the climate control isn't quite figured out. >> it's not on tv yet. >> this is just a dry run. >> oh, by the way, willie. >> yes. >> as you know u xwoknow, we inf our money in the dog track. but this brexit thing is a good thing. it's just going to destroy the economy and destroy the stock market. any investments. i think they've been completely wip wiped. out if you invested in 1928, understand everything has been wiped out. like this is the worst since the great depression, right? >> it was a rough couple of days and yesterday the markets started to bounce back.
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you'll be happy to know. the market started to come back yesterday. >> the elite said this is the end of the world. that locusts were going to descend from the heavens and eat flesh off of anybody -- >> how are you doing over there? >> i'm okay. >> make you sweat. >> it has his negatives, but the market climbed up almost 300 points. >> biggest two days. like since gordon gecko roamed the world with the huge cell phones. >> can i get to the lead stories now? >> there are a lot of lead stories. >> i will finish your sentence and start with politics. a new poll in the presidential race shows the growing worry in the gop about donald trump's strug tool find his footing. hillary clinton with saia six-pt lead over trump. 44% while trump has sunk seven points to 38%. the poll shows the republican party is less than united than it was a month ago. just 74% of republicans backing
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trump over clinton down from 82% in may. and when asked who they prefer as the republican nominee, 48% of republicans say, donald trump. 51% say someone else. >> let's separate there. mika, these numbers have gotten worse. what goes up must come down, i suppose. blood, sweat and tears once sang. but the question is, will this turn around? this is just a snapshot but a pretty bad snapshot. he lost seven points and the republican party more divided than it was even a month ago. this is just a snapshot in time. >> i think things began to really turn for trump in which it wasn't working for him any more during the judge situation. i think he lost all credibility and it's very hard for people to stay with him now. and i thought the poll numbers
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would go down. i really did. i said it out loud. and they are. he's going to have to have to do a lot now to pivt ot to the general. >> we'll talk about the pivot. he hasn't done it over the past five weeks. this, obviously, the indiana judge and, actually, post-orlando. him congratulating himself and doing all of these things. you just sort of see the mass accumulation. again, you look at the state by state polls and he's pretty close in a lot of areas. no doubt he's down seven points. this has been his worth month since he has been campaigning. >> "the washington post" had him down 12 points and now you have seen the spread of six or seven points in three national polls. you look at ohio, pennsylvania, florida he's even running close enough. but the one poll that mika
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showed at the end, more than half of republicans don't think he's the guy. if he can't win over his own party, forget the next step to go to swing voters and maybe some democrats and sanders' voters. he has to convince his own party he's the nominee first. >> by the way, just to put everything in perspective, there is a quinnipiac poll that had him tied. 42-40. i think the nbc poll was five or six points. and the abc "washington post" poll had it like 12, 13 behind. he's lost. he's lost a lot of points in most of the polls. but, mike, white house what's interesting is that you have a party that split, but he's still attacking his own party. donald trump is still attacking his own party. >> he did it again yesterday and we now return to the segment, ask the experts. >> we have one here.
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mark halprin. >> it's the sweater. do we have two donald trumps active in this campaign? we have the donald trump behind the teleprompter an accurate speech on trade and then the donald trump yesterday largely on the stump. no teleprompters. on tv last night going off the rails in a couple of different situations. how much of this plays into the poll numbers continuing to drop? >> he's got to unite the party and reach out at the same time. he has to learn to give teleprompter and do other things. he dozen love the teleprompter. he would rather do big rallies. they have to get ready for the debates and do the day-to-day stuff. they are growing. >> where are they growing? >> they're hiring people. >> but he speaks only to the converted already in halls.
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they're there because they really want to hear what he says and they like him. >> he should be able to reach the blue collar democrats. but they are not out of the race. you know, they're not out of it. they're behind. but they're not out of it. >> what we said the other day. if you're going to turn the page, mika, you have to turn the page. you have to unite the entire republican party and then you have to move forward. you can't have one day, i'm going to read the teleprompter today and then the next day go back to july of 2015. there's got to be consistency every single day. if he doesn't have the discipline to do that every day, hillary clinton is going to blow him out. if he had the discipline that he showed in pennsylvania and ohio two days ago and if he carries that over the course of the campaign, this is going to be an incredibly fascinating race. >> you turn the page and unite the party like this. take a look. >> when you sign a pledge, this isn't a pledge that says subject
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to me changing my mind. this is a pledge that is legally binding. you want to know the truth. i have guys out there and they're really sore losers. if you think about it. i would have honored that pledge. i wouldn't have let's yell it from the loudest building, but i would have honored the pledge. just remember this, they signed a pledge saying they will abide. saying they will back the candidate of the party. and now they sit back and the pledge is out there and the press doesn't even go after him on that. they broke their word, in my opinion. they should never be allowed to run for public office, again. what they did is disgusting. >> the stupidity is breathtaking. the stupidity is breathtaking. here you have a guy that delivers a speech that actually can convert democrats in ohio and pennsylvania and across the
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rust belt. and then the next day -- >> he's talking about people. willie he's talking about other people's jobs and bringing jobs back to america. he's not obsessed with the minutia of america. then he goes off on gop candidates. they're not going to endorse him. he keeps knocking him around that way. but who cares? who cares if jeb bush endorses him? who cares if john kasich endorses him? he's upset -- it's like when he was ahead in 49 states in polls, but just losing in iowa. he went to iowa and called people in iowa stupid. i wonder why he lost in iowa. he said, what are you stupid? the guy, is he capable of being disciplined and moving on? >> it doesn't appear so. every time he takes a step forward, he takes a couple steps back.
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if you want to win the state of ohio going after john kasich, who is popular among republicans attacking john kasich for not agreeing to the pledge that was signed months ago is probably not the best approach. for donald trump, just part of his personality. score settling. it's vendettas and people who slighted him and wronged him and carries a chip on his shoulder about it. but strategically going forward and running off popular governors of swing states is maybe not the best idea. >> when he wasn't going after people in his own party, donald trump yesterday continued to blame hillary clinton for the rise of the islamic state. >> isis was formed during her tenure. isis is now worse than ever. you see what happened yesterday and you see what's going on generally. isis is looking strong. isis is signing up people over the internet. they know how to use the internet better than we do and we do nothing about anything. they're taking our youth. you know why they're taking our
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youth? because they look like they're winning. >> she's not going to get tougher. it started under her. it was a little group of people and it could have been wiped out quickly and effectively then and now it's a very large group of people and only getting bigger. if she gets in, it will be massive and we won't have a country any more. we'll be afraid to walk outside. bill, remember one other thing. they're letting tens of thousands of people come in from syria and nobody knows who these people are and a lot of those people are isis. >> actually, actually plays in the fall campaign where you're actually a republican criticizing a democratic nominee, presumptive nominee. >> it will play for a while. won't play in the big picture. you cannot run on fear and win. >> i thought that's what we did in america. >> no. he can't do it. he can't do it. >> you don't think, you don't think that --
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>> no. again, i fall back on what is going to happen to his language and once he gets intelligence briefings. he is so far off the rails on this, it's great. two elements to this campaign. the head and the heart. if you're thinking about the united states, hillary clinton is voting with her heart. >> did you say this in 2004 that people don't vote their fears? because people voted their fear in 2004. i don't criticize people for voting their fears. in 2004 i voted for my fears because i voted for george w. bush because i didn't think john kerry would be strong enough. >> why didn't you think he would be strong enough? >> just a gut feeling. because i thought he would be ringing his hands in critical times and he wouldn't be able to make strong decisions. and, again, i don't want to
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replay 2004. >> what about the o'reilly line that just popped up last night? thousands coming in from syria and they're isis. not thousands coming in. >> thousands coming in where? >> into the united states. we're not going to have a country any more. >> in the element that bush had besides fear mongering a little bit is that he was stable. >> and had a team that was stable, so to speak. >> and i think what the clinton people view as trump's vulinability. >> people vote their gut. who is going to protect my kids. listen, i'm very concerned about donald trump. i've expressed those concerns repeatedly for some time. but, there are people out there hearing donald trump talking about isis who are going to say, hey, he is going to protect us more than say hillary clinton. >> you had yesterday the cia director brennan come out yesterday in a pretty amazing
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interview and say what happened in istanbul absolutely could happen in the united states of america and probably people training and trying to make it happen right now. cia director says it right now. when donald trump goes on that statement and says what he says, that will resonate with some people. if the cia director says it's coming here. which one of these candidates will be stronger for me? some people will say it's hillary clinton because of her experience at state and others will say donald trump on a pure gut level. >> i brought up, mika, 2004, because i remember you telling me a long time ago how it would make you angry in 2004 when people said they were going to vote for george w. bush pause he was going to "make them safer." again, i'm not saying it is right or wrong, i do think people vote their gut a lot of times and they vote their fears. >> here is as you were mentioning, brennan talk about the next potential attack. >> surprising to me that isil is not trying to hit us both in the
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region, as well as in our homeland. if anybody here believes that the u.s. homeland is sealed and that that they would not consider that, i think i would guard against that. >> some tough talk, mike. >> very tough talk, but very realistic talk because you can't erect a barricade around the united states of america. there are free lances in this country probably affiliated with isis who could carry out what was carried out in istanbul. no doubt about that. donald trump goes around saying we're doing virtually nothing to conduct the operation around isis. that's not true. at some point he'll be asked, donald, what would you do? >> i'm not comparing donald trump to jfk. i just happen to be reviewing a book right now about the kennedys. and you look, john kennedy just
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made up a missile gap with the soviets. they invented it out of thin air. every historian will tell you, they just lied about a missile cap that didn't exist. and it worked. >> trump will win if people want change. and president obama's approval rating is up but his numbers on handling terror and dealing with isis are not as high as his overall numbers. so, people may be willing to take a chance. i think in the end, he will have to be a candidate for change with a little more reassurance than he has given people. >> but, again, do people vote their fears? that's the question about the missile gap versus in 2004. >> they vote anxiety and they vote the status quo isn't good and the way we're trying to protect ourselves isn't the way to do it and hillary clinton largely campaigning on continuity. >> you have the anxiety of isis and then the anxiety that donald
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trump creates around himself. when he shows the extraordinary lack of discipline that he showed yesterday. instead of staying focused and talking about workers and the working class and talking about struggling americans and talking about hillary clinton and her failures. he goes back and he starts attempting jeb bush and john kasich, it's mind boggling. >> if you were advising donald trump, the key thing, i don't know if you can hear this. people do vote their fears, they do. but they can't fear you. they can't fear that you're unhinged. they can't fear that you're inconsistent. they can't fear you say one thing and mean another. they keecan't fear that you'll blurt out a lie. >> they can't fear in the middle of a conference over let's say in geneva where you're negotiating something that's extraordinarily important to the united states that you read an article and then you go off on
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merkel. or you go off on somebody else the next day. in a press conference. does he have any discipline at all? can he do the same thing two days in a row? right now, the answer seems to be a resounding no. still ahead on "morning joe" so much to talk about. donald trump says he knows how bernie sanders feels about hillary clinton. we'll play that for you coming up. not every day that you see the attorney general of the united states meeting privately with the husband of someone under an fbi investigation. >> is that good or bad? >> not ideal. >> that loretta lynch is meeting with bill clinton while the whole world is wondering whether hillary is going to be indicted or not. >> they meet privately. >> it was a chance meeting. >> a chance meeting. >> did either one of them have anybody around them saying, hey, you know what, you guys probably should not meet privately.
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>> unless they need to meet privately. sorry. that's just what it is. >> and bill needs to get assurances that she's not going to be indicted. >> how do they not talk about that? >> that's mind boggling. first, here's bill karins with a check on the forecast. >> not too early for the holiday forecast. already about dodging the thunderstorms. already in areas of kansas and missouri and even oklahoma. that is the area of concern over the upcoming days. any weather headlines and a flash flooding problems watch out around kansas city to top a topeka. that's where the frontal boundary will set up all weekend long. also this afternoon watch out in the carolincarolinas. let's get into your fourth of july weekend forecast. scattered thunderstorms and airport delays that will be late in the afternoon to the evening. d.c., philadelphia, new york included. and then typical storms from denver out to kansas city. saturday as we head through the weekend, kind of the same thing. very warm through the southern half of the country. right in the middle here that we'll have the showers and storms and even into sunday kind of a similar forecast.
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for the fourth of july, i don't think anyone will get rained on all day long but watch out for storms in the ohio valley and the mid-atlantic. looks great for the macy's fireworks in new york and chicago you're off to a great start for your fourth of july. washington, d.c., a warmer day. little touch of humidity and slight chance of a late-day storm and overall looks like a really nice morning. we'll be right back. what powers the digital world? communication. like centurylink's broadband network that gives 35,000 fans a cutting edge game experience. or the network that keeps a leading hotel chain's guests connected at work, and at play. or the it platform that powers millions of ecards every day for one of the largest greeting card companies. businesses count on communication, and communication counts on centurylink.
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>> i know what he thinks inside. he hates her. he hates her. i mean, he cannot stand her. i'm pritetty good with people. bernie sanders cannot stand hillary clinton. 24 past the hour. >> mark, is this better? >> oh, my god, yes. >> this makes me feel uncomfortable. >> i can't believe you changed for mark halperin. >> tank top would have been even better. wife beater. >> you just don't like the sweater. that's what you call the t-shirt. >> let's move on. >> but it's -- this is more uncomfortable and hotter. >> it was 110 it grdegrees and e
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wearing a sweater. i just couldn't process. >> what have we got there? >> this coming tuesday president obama will hit the campaign trail with clinton. president obama won north carolina in 2008, but lost to mitt romney in 2012. meanwhile, a conservative watchdog revealed that dozens of e-mails that went through hillary clinton's private server were not included in the disclosures turned over to the state department last year. public records lawsuits, including many brought by the group judicial watch have raised at least 160 e-mails. one e-mail led to the revelation that clinton asked her personal aide how her records were being maintained. and in a deposition released yesterday, she said that clinton did not want the state department e-mails that she sent and received on her private server to be accessible to anybody. >> mark, what is the bottom line
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in this? >> we still don't know what is going on with the investigation. they have an interview -- >> bill clinton does. >> he might have gotten a briefing. >> he got a briefing from loretta lynch. >> they probably didn't discuss the case. they haven't interviewed her yet, as far as we know. they turned over a lot of rocks. so, i still don't see what crime they'd indict her for. not just the fbi investigation, but a lot of these civil cases going on and it's all kind of still out there. >> whether or not she's indicted. if you look at her honest and trustworthy numbers. a new fox poll has her at 30% honest and trustworthy. stories like this that democrats dismiss that are witchhunts that erode that you're honest and trustworthy. whether or not it's illegal. but the way she handled it and said it was allowed, it was not marked confidential. >> mike, even on the nbc poll that had the race closer than the abc poll, i think by 15
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percentage points americans found donald trump more honest and straight forward than hillary clinton. that's staggering and it's happening because these e-mail stories, as you said, democrats have been dismissing. oh, it doesn't matter. >> smee he is arguably the luck candidate. that is her ace card in the hole. i mean, come middle october, late october. i mean, we're going to be sitting there in a country where there are many, many people out there married, whatever, two kids, three kids, whatever. thinking i have a kid, the junior in high school. i hope the kid dozen get into a really expensive college and i want the kid to go to the state school so i can afford the tuition. i haven't had a real raise in 12 years. i don't care about the e-mails. who will take care of me economically better? which of these candidates is going to be better. that's going to happen. >> it's a good thing you look at the big picture of the situation
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with hillary clinton. you have to have an attorney general that is right down the middle, fair. doesn't work -- impartial. it's important. you know. >> it's critical. >> right. so, this morning there are questions about what could have been discussed during a private meeting between former president bill clinton. >> mike's laughing. you can't make this up. >> and attorney general loretta lynch yesterday. >> you can't make this up. >> no. >> oh, i'm sorry, it happened on tuesday. the face-to-face claim as the justice department investigates hillary's use as a private e-mail server as secretary of state. the attorney general says the meeting with the former president was unplanned. and that she and bill clinton never discussed the e-mail investigation. we're told the two just happen to be at the phoenix airport at the same time when the former president thwarted her plane. >> what is the word?
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>> boy, this is beyond optics. those are unbelievable. >> he got on her plane. >> gives them a lot to talk about. >> why would he get on her plane to specifically meet with her and talk about? >> she's the democratic attorney general and perfectly reasonable to talk except under these circumstances. >> there is no way you let him come on your plane and talk privately. there is no way. >> no, because of the question that mark posed a few minutes ago. we don't know what's going on with the investigation yet. we just don't know. >> and it's her decision. i mean, she shouldn't have let him on the plane. he shouldn't have wanted to get on the plane. i understand they're friends and they have a lot to talk about. >> no. >> it's a great, exciting things and the two private planes. yeah, just -- >> willie.
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>> so they're both at the phoenix airport. separate planes. and he hears she is about to arrive. she's doing something about community policing in phoenix. he holds his plane and says i need to visit with the attorney general. the report they gave, he wanted to talk to her about community policing and what's happening in phoenix. he held his plane to talk about that. that shouldn't have happened on either side. i think attorney general lynch has shown herself to be a solid attorney general at this point. i'll give her the benefit of the doubt that she wouldn't be corrupted by one conversation with bill clinton. >> do you think they were talking about community? >> she wanted to have her private server. no one traveling with the attorney general or the former president wouldn't have said, this is a bad idea. >> you can't do that. it's not allowed. >> even in my little, little, little world, in a congressional office. if i ever suggested anything those lines i would have 12
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people jumping up yelling at me. >> bad idea, congressman, don't do it. >> bad idea. stay away. several times, you know, and that's the question. first of all, these two people showed the most extraordinarily bad judgment. and where was their staff? >> this is on doj, though. >> where was -- who was on the plane with loretta lynch to say you cannot do this? >> i don't think she needs anyone to tell her this is not a good idea. this is so obvious, right? i mean, they didn't talk about it? >> i bet they didn't talk about it. >> everybody stop. >> this is why this will never be a problem for hillary clinton's people are too afraid to talk about the truth and this was wrong from the get go and wasn't allowed as she said. >> i agree she shouldn't have gotten on the plane. coming up, we'll just move on, just like everyone else
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well, conservative radio host howie karr warmed up the crowd yesterday in maine. what in the world? what year is this? he took trump's mockery of elizabeth warren's family claims of being a cherokee or having cherokee heritage to a whole new level. >> i heard that hillary clinton and elizabeth warren campaigning. you know elizabeth warren, right? >> mike, tell me about howie? >> he's growing his audience. >> you mispronounced his last name. >> listen, i just think he might want to hide under a rock. i remember back in the dark ages when i was growing up the school
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had ahole controversy over the slogan. and back then it was appropriate. what's he doing? >> and willie? >> the kind of stuff donald trump just doesn't need. i don't think howie carr's audience is offended by it. just the thing, if donald trump is trying to get a constructive trade out about jobs or economy and gets overshadowed by these moments. >> by the way, the people that will like donald trump because he fights back against political correctness and the pc police, they already have their votes. >> it's a huge caution for the convention. >> he already got their votes. >> as they're planning untraditional speakers that convention and some indications they're having trouble getting people to agree to speak in some cases. they need to make sure that they don't have people on stage who go off script. >> do things like that. >> yeah.
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i mean clint eastwood might be the best they got. >> are we going to look back at the chair moment and say that was their finest hour? >> you put people up on the stage. >> if the republican party -- they will remember that is their finest hour. >> if you start up putting up professional wrestlers and country music artists and baseball players. >> you never know what they're going to think. two dozen arrests made so far. nbc richard engel joins us live from istanbul with new information. that's next on "morning joe."
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a lot of new information coming in from police and from turkish media. there has been a counterterrorism sweep in this country in the early morning hours. what seems to be a coordinated assault on multiple locations in ismer and istanbul with two dozen suspected suspects rounded up. these are all counter isis raids to try to line-up people connected to the airport attack. also, a police source has told nbc news that the three suspected bombers, the three suicide attackers were part of a russian-speaking cell and have been preliminarily identified as a russian national from the caucuses. a photograph has emerged, as well. it's been published on the turkish media that allegedly shows the three attackers. all three are wearing black or dark jackets.
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two wearing baseball caps. and all three appears to be carrying some sort of bags or backpacks and also a turkish news agency says that these three men rented an apartment paying in cash here in istanbul three months ago. they rarely left it. they installed an extra security gate to the front door. potentially concerned that there might be some sort of operation against them. and that a neighbor upstairs had become suspicious because of visitors and noise late at night and because of a chemical smell. so, details emerging about this cell of russian speaking, russian-speaking cell as counterterrorism operations are under way across this country. >> richard engel, thank you very much. joining us now in studio, former fbi counterterrorism agent and research, clinton,
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great great to have you back with us this morning. when you look at what happened in orlando, san bernardino going back there, what sort of story do you start to weave together about where isis is right now? >> they're losing ground in iraq and syria. they need success to get money and men into their ranks. they lost that ability over the past year. so, if they can't keep and maintain ground inside of iraq and syria, then they're going to move out regionally to execute terror attacks. the other thing we need to look at is some sort of exit strategy for these isis members. 15% of the foreign fighters that are there have no natural home they can go back to. they have either been revoked their citizenship or no affiliate they can drift to. they'll stay in the fight for as long as they can. i noticed here it was a russian and -- >> chechen. >> chechens. these folks are not going to be able to go back. they have showed up big in syria and iraq largely because the russians have crushed them in their own fight.
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they're going to stay for the long haul. a lot of the other fighters will drift back home. but some are the suicide bombers we'll see. >> who is responsible for this? isis, chechens? >> i think isis, an isl islamic-state group. when you watch these guys move into syria and iraq, they largely did that based on the media were they were consuming, which is on language. so, you'd find around speakers. >> given they are committed to dying. are we at a point now where numbers of these attacks are basically, they're doing it for a youtube moment? >> absolutely. they need those attacks to rally their base and also surviving or they have survived for the past couple years with the model that we're going to tax the local population. they lose ground. they lose their tax base. so, when they lose that, they have to come up with other ways. you have to inspire your base to rally other affiliates to
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support you. >> you had the cia director brennan saying yesterday in an interview that clearly to him that isis is thinking about attacking inside the united states. how they do it is unclear at this moment. what can the united states be doing to disrupt the kind of attacks that we've seen here in europe and the united states? >> any time after 9/11 under the most intense operations. it may not seem like that in the outside world. but 1,000 open cases that they had reported last week. they are running leads, but these are the lone wolf kind of leads, which are very hard to detect and mostly off the internet. not picking them up in communities the way you might see in belgium or paris. so, these are highly resource intensive investigations. we are overcapacity to track all these leads, ultimately. so, they can run as hard as they want and they can push for more privileges like the surveillance privileges that they got revoked last week. but very limited in what they
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can do if there is no actual motive or movement. >> you have more of a chance picking up in the united states a situation like we had in istanbul. >> absolutely. >> than orlando where you have a guy who is a lone wolf, who actually may have been driven as much by mental illness and, also, his own personal problems as, you know, a call. >> absolutely. any time they're working in a group or a cell and coordinating back to the headquarters, that sends off signals from the cell back or in terms of acquisitions and materials. a single purchase like we saw in orlando of a weapon is not uncommon. but when they start rehearsing, prepping, planning, that's when you pick up your indicators and we are really well suited for that in the united states to detect that and that's why we don't see it that much. >> anything comparable to the new york city counterintelligence unit?
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>> los angeles police department. i worked with them. an outstanding set up there and certain departments seattle, boston, for example, really integrated well with fusion centers. there are those that are out there but no one is staffed like the nypd. way more resources and technology than any of the other metropolitan police departments. >> clint watts, thank you for being on this morning. still ahead on "morning joe" awkward hand shakes world leader edition. wasn't...oh look, you dropped something. it's your resume with a 20 dollar bill taped to it. that's weird. you want to work for ge too. hahaha, what? well we're always looking for developers who are up for big world changing challenges like making planes, trains and hospitals run better. why don't you check your new watch and tell me what time i should be there. oh, i don't hire people. i'm a developer. i'm gonna need monday off. again, not my call.
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. >> when you sign a pledge. this isn't a pledge subject to changing my mind, i think it's legally binding, you want to know the truth. i have xwi have guys out there they're really sore losers. i wouldn't honor that pledge and wouldn't yell it from the tallest building. just remember this, they signed a pledge saying they will abide. saying they will back the candidate of the party. and now they sit back and the pledge is out there and the press doesn't even go after them on that. they broke my word in my opinion. welcome back to "morning joe." that's unifying. >> that's what you want to do. you want to pick fights within
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your own party after you won the nomination. >> pull them together. >> the republicans can afford to sort of be divided going into the fall since we do so well. we have the lock, the red wall. every four years. oh, wait a second, oh, actually, we lost five out of the last six. >> looks like they'll lose another one. still with us on set mike barnicle. managing editor at bloomberg politics mark halperin editor of "the fix" chris. >> what does that tell you about donald trump? a couple days ago he delivers a speech that i personally believes shakes things up. goes to ohio and pennsylvania and talks to working class voters in a way. they have him talk on the issue of trading in quite some time and then the next day, he is, again, picking fights with members of his own party. >> he's got to be trump.
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he just is. in the op-ed piece in "new york times" spot on. republicans who think trump is going to win by becoming someone different are wishing for something that's never going to happen. this is what he's like. and his mind is a fascinating thing. >> his mind. willie? >> when he does go to the prompter and he acts like a conventional, traditional candidate, he's criticized for being too conventional and reading off the teleprompter. is there a space between donald being donald and being a presidential candidate where he can kind of have it both ways. he is criticized either way he goes. >> he showed flashes of it. there have been moments where he has been what most people thinks he needs to be. he's super competitive and doesn't want to loose. >> piece in "new york times" the gop waits and waits for donald trump to grow up. >> the party establishment is waiting for donneawonald trump p
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acting like donald trump. a move towards statesmanship will never materialize. just a few weeks from the national convention, republicans are stuck in these awkward standoffs that have come to embody everything disorienting from this election. our voters in decisive numbers picked a guy who embarrasses us. party leaders have watched the last eight weeks of the trump candidacy the way you experience a chase scene in a dream where your legs never move fast enough to outrun the three-headed dragon on roler skates. as i recall all too well from my dating days waiting for a man to change is a but in the case of mr. trump, it may be the fool's only choice. i think it is. i think, actually, we've seen reflection in the poll numbers. everyone thought, okay, usually there's some sort of event like orlando where he can tap into something and benefit. not this time because he's done too many things that have caused
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him to lose credibility. and now i think you're seeing people kind of afraid of him. afraid of what he might do. >> at a time that he needs to be uniting the republican party, you have to unite because you start with a disadvantage and then you have to start pulling democrats and independents over to you the way he was trying to do a couple days ago. it all begins by having your party united. this latest poll we're about to look at shows over half the republican party doesn't even want donald trump to be their nominee. >> a fox news poll shows hillary clinton with a six-point lead over trump. the democrats up two points since may at 44% while trump has sunk seven points to 38%. the poll shows the republican party is less united than it was a month ago. just 74% of republicans backing trump over clinton down from 82% in may. and when asked who they prefer as the republican nominee, 48% of republicans say donald trump.
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51% say someone else. >> look at those numbers right there. if you're driving it home, 48% of republicans want donald trump as their nominee. 51% want someone else. chris, this is a game of addition, not subtraction. donald trump attacking other republican candidates yesterday. i don't know that he's figured that out yet. he has to unite his party all behind him and then start picking up democrats and independents. >> two things. one, the fox news poll isn't keeping with everything we've seen which is essentially her number is largely steady in these heads to heads. his number just keeps dropping. so, it's not as though this race is totally lost because these people are not jumping to her yet. they're just jumping off of him. but they keep jumping off of him. the other thing is, nicolle's piece is exactly right. what is so difficult is this is quite clearly the person that
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the people who voted in republican primaries around the country wanted. you got 13.5 million votes. he won overwhelmingly and won in the big field when it was he and ted cruz. what's difficult is you showed the graphic and it it showed someone else and there is just a blank figu ururfigureine there. romney or fill in the blank candidates there is donald trump. the other one is just that cutout. this idea of someone riding to the rescue is just not born out. even the people who the delegates were trying to deny him the nomination at the convention, they admit they have no other choice. they have no plan "b." >> make the cutout box go down. >> yes. >> he doesn't get that. >> he doesn't get that. he doesn't get that and either he doesn't get it or to mark's
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point, he just can't be someone other than who he is and that he tries to be disciplined, but at the end of the day, when he feels as though he's been sort of threatened or his honor has been questioned, he just goes back to being who he is. there is no trump 2.0. >> he can't win. it's that simple. if donald trump can't adapt to changing environments, then he will be like other species throughout earth's history. if you do not adapt to a changing environment, then you die. >> you have two trumps. >> you go extinct. >> you have two trumps going. teleprompter trump might be able to get his numbers back up. then you have the real donald trump who is on o'reilly and traveling and real donald trump makes those numbers go down. >> but the thing is, you say teleprompter donald trump. that's donald trump doing what
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every other politician does. he can deliver those speeches. he's smart enough, is he not, to deliver those speeches. then go on o'reilly and say the same thing to o'reilly that they said in the speeches. >> i don't think what he said about hillary clinton was bad for him in the general election. i think what he said on o'reilly and other han the massive exaggerations and lies, that is, obviously, very bad. yet, he's still considered more honest and trustworthy than hillary clinton. so you figured out. if he can is it tyke the facts and be honest and truthful. that's one thing. if you go after your own party this late in the game. breaking news from reuters a few minutes ago. boris johnson is not running for prime minister in great britain proving his critics right that he wanted to burn down the barn but had no idea how to rebuild it. >> leaves the race even more wide open than it was before. now pretty wide open. trump campaign is trying to find a happy medium.
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prompter, no prompter. rally. other type of events. doing fox news, doing other news organizations. i think they've got in mind what the right balance is and they believe if they put him in a different series of types of events, that he will adapt to the way you say he must to win. but the key, i think, is the scheduling. scheduling up until now has not really put him in the best light of showing off what he can do. and i think the goal is to try to make that happen starting soon. >> i think that comment he made about people coming into this country on o'reilly and syrians, he blurted it out the last minute is a perfect example of why instead of him perhaps inspiring people to vote for him out of fear, they will fear him because you just don't know what will come out of his mouth. >> you just can't make things up. >> the bad thing that was blurted out just off hand and words really matter. >> we have to keep in mind, too,
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that donald trump is a first-time politician. he found great success for almost a year in just being himself and saying exactly what was on his mind and not playing by any of the rules and it worked for him. he saw himself go up in the polls in primary, i'm talk about. he saw himself win primary after primary and a tough thing to say now, wait a minute, i have to be a completely different person. he does have to change. but i think for him as somebody who hasn't been in politics his whole life. he is saying this worked for me. >> look at the muslim ban. people supported the muslim ban and the republican primary. you look at the general election and people overwhelmingly oppose it. think it's a horrible idea. think it's an unamerican idea. he can read those polls. he's obsesses with pod with pol. he needs to read general election polls. >> the primary versus the general election. it's the difference between t-ball. >> he watches the show every day. not like we haven't been saying
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for six months the very things that help him in a primary will hurt him in a general election. >> on o'reilly that i think is causing fear. take a look. >> she's not going to get tougher. it started under her. it was a little group of people. it could have been wiped out quickly and effectively then and now it's a very large group of people. and it's only getting bigger. if she gets in, it will be masive and ma massive and we won't have a country any more. we'll be afraid to walk outside. bill, remember one other thing. they're letting tens of thousands of people come in from syria and nobody knows who these people are and lot of those people are isis. >> it's one of three things. >> no they're not. the united states has been the stingiest of all countries in allowing syrian refugees in. again, this is chris, let me make a point. chris, this is also -- i'm going
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to build a wall. why are you going to build a wall when more mexicans are leaving and illegal immigrants are going back than coming in. >> the problem here and mika touched on it and he continues to do this. it appears as though he kind of makes it up as he goes along and doesn't understand that when you are the nominee of one of the two major parties in this country. you're not running for it. you know, you won the nomination. you can't just say stuff. joe, the point i was going to make, isis began under her. began in the early 2004, 2005. it certainly didn't begin under hillary clinton. again, what's so hard i think if you're a republican is, this is a winnable race. you can argue and say very winnable race. she has large-scale problems on
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honest and trustworthness, favorability, the idea that she is the status quo and the idea that she doesn't represent the future, she represents the past. these are all things that if you focus a race on her, you can win this race. the frustration is donald trump seems either unwilling or unable to do that. and every day makes comments like this where he's under mining the idea, i don't like her but i think this guy can do the job. to mika's point, if they don't think she knows what he's doing or willing to learn, it's hard to cast the vote for him to be the most powerful person in the world. >> what he said last night at the tail end of that clip is one of three things or a blend of three things. ignorance, cynicism or lying or a blend of the three. >> a the clinton campaign has bn very technically good lately. not getting a ton of attention. chris said this thing about
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making it about her. trump makes everything about, but the clinton campaign has done a good job of letting him be out there but picking their spots to elevate her and use his visibility against him. been very smart. make it about trump, but in a way that works to their advantage. >> what donald trump is frustrated about the people around him, i was going to say his whole campaign team. family members, everybody else. we can give an hour speech and then we say something for 15 or 20 seconds. and that's what everybody focuses on. well, welcome to the big leagues. that is politics. michael dukakis runs an entire campaign that is boiled down to 15 seconds of him riding in a tank with a helmet on his head. welcome to the big leagues. yes. that's what they remember. they do not remember the 30 completions. they remember the interception you throw at end the of the game that allows the other team to win the super bowl. >> that clip was absolutely
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stunning. i mean, it's just not true. it's a blend of three horrible things. no other way to look at it. >> so unnecessary. bill o'reilly had cut him off. >> saving him. >> i remember one other thing, the martians are coming to attack tomorrow at noon because hillary clinton sent a signal 15 years ago that said come attack us. >> who lets him go on that? but, okay, whatever. >> again, this goes back to he doesn't have to do interviews. he doesn't have to give speeches at these huge rallies. he can control his message. but he just refuses to do so. >> thousands. >> the fox poll that we taukd about that was out yesterday that showed hillary clinton with only 30% hawnest and trustworthy and a few terms to describe the candidates. one was hot headed. 89% of all voters said donald trump is hot headed. i believe they like his perceived strength in some way when he talks about isis and
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those things and they don't see stability to go along with the strength. you have to have both of those. >> that is what, ultimately, impacts somebody on the fence at the voting booth. donald trump will make his second stop of the month in new hampshire today with another speech focused on u.s. trade policy as he proposes higher barriers to protect american workers. talk about more restricted policies have some republican allies on edge, including the u.s. chamber of commerce, which was sharply critical of trump's pennsylvania speech. trump responded yesterday tweeting the chamber must fight harder for the american worker. china and many uthothers are tag advantage of the u.s. with our terrible trade packs. why would the chamber be upset with the fact that i want to negotiate better or stronger trade deals or penalties for cheaters. >> by the way, by the way, that is a great message. that is a superb message. take those two tweets. make that your message of the day.
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it's okay to go after the chamber. if you're running as a populous republican. it's good. i mean, make that your message. stick to it. don't make these side comments, mark halperin that are just false. >> he's a populous outsider. he doesn't need the chamber and they'll be with him in the end if he looks like he can win. everything he says needs to go, as chris said before, change washington. do you like the way things are going. f i agree. great message and it shows how unorthodox he is. what kind of republican attacks the chamber? one who is going to run and try to build a different kind of coalition. >> let me answer that. a smart republican. >> one who knows they lost five of the last six in the popular vote. >> one that knows that average wages for americans have been dropping since 1973.
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i mean, so, yeah, a smart republican. but they stick to that message. >> he went on to say more about this at a rally in bangor, maine. >> i'm all for free trade. but here's what, the u.s. chamber of commerce is totally controlled by the special interest groups, folks. just so you understand it. there are special interests that want to have the deals that they want to have. they want to transpacific partnership. the worst deal since nafta. no, the worst deal, it will drain the rest of your businesses out of maine, believe me. i want to make great deals for our public. i want to make great deals for the united states. yes, but do you want free trade. i said, i want great deals. i don't care if they're free, fair, i don't care if they're good. i don't care if they're horrendous. i just want great deals. i'll do it all different ways. i'll do it all different ways. >> again, a very good message to
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deliver. >> joining us from manchester, new hampshire. nbc news correspondent haley jackson covering the campaign. >> hey, mika, hey, guys. we think donald trump will speak more about this when he speaks with reporters later on this afternoon in manchester. he doubled down on this message that you guys are talking about. he is rallying against the big business interests that he is going to renegotiate these trade deals in the war of words with the chamber of commerce. he also said for reasons only they can explain, he tweeted last night. the u.s. chamber wants to continue our bad trade deals instead of making them better. trump hitting this message hard and ezinates wiresonates with t supporters that show up at his rallies. we saw him at his rally last night do something different which is pull in moments from his policy speech earlier in the week when he was in pennsylvania and in ohio. those are the moments when the
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crowd kind of listens. when he talks about the chamber of commerce and talks about trying to renegotiate some of these trade deals and rallying against ttp. people are responding to him in that respect. so, again, more on that today, we think, here in new hampshire. he just hired a new operative. a long-time republican strategist here in new england and a national adviser to the trump campaign and acknowledging to me, hey, the campaign needs to grow and excited to be a part of it and some boots on the ground and battleground states and that's the role he will be playing. >> hallie jackson, thank you very much. >> so, you can hire, mike, as many people as you want. show discipline at the end. here we have spent the past 10, 15 minutes talking about trump's trade message, unorthodox. and certainly the business community hates it, not just the chamber. but the traditional republican business community. republican leaders hate it. they all do. it changes the ball game. it puts hillary clinton on the defensive. if you could stick to that
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message and have discipline, then he could really shake things up in the rust belt. >> two things. the united states chamber of commerce has done diddly for the american working people. diddly. >> it's not their job. they don't consider that to be their job. big business corporation. >> trump attacking the chamber of commerce. that's a very shrewd political move. his arguments about trade. his platform on trade is the difference between the head and the heart. the trade thing that he talks about probably can't happen. he can't erase nafta. but the heart, the people that he's speaking to, it's a terr terrific message. they buy it. he does stick with it for a certain period of time but then as we've been talking endlessly. >> when i agree and i saw some of his speeches on trade over the past few days, there is a level of telling people maybe what they don't want to hear and telling him the truth and it may not be great news, but let's say
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it like it is. then there is veering wildly off into a direction of lies. and that part is still happening. and if he would shave off that part, his life would be a lot easier. if he would stick to the prompter and stick to the program, he could probably come close to winning. but he can't. >> so, he has a great trade message, i think, for the general election. which is eclipsed -- >> great trade message for the gut for pennsylvania, for ohio, for wisconsin, for michigan. for states he needs to win. and it's eclipsed by lies about 10,000 syrians racing over the border in the united states and will cease to be a country. >> that's the hard part. >> we're the stingiest major country in the plant for letting syrian refugees in and then attacking fellow republicans at a time he's got to bring the entire party together. >> he's a mess. >> he's a mess in terms of discipline. but, again, on the trade package, he has the message for
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the heart, but not the head. he's in pennsylvania earlier this week or last weekend. he's talking and giving the trade message and it goes down well. people buy it. yet, technology has stolen more jobs than the trade pact has and he is just within a few miles of pittsburgh, pennsylvania, where they have basically turned that city around with thousands of new jobs in medical technology, health technology. that's where we're going. those are the facts of life. >> chris cillizza stake -- >> a lot of reasons i say it. mostly timing. the primaries ended so late and the conventions are so early that we don't have enough time to speculate. but i also think trump and clinton are such big -- how can you talk about anyone other than trump given what he does on a daily basis. anyone else that he would pick
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outside of a vince mcmahon, right? head of the wwe, it doesn't sort of -- yeah, that connecticut boy. doesn't necessarily move the needle. so, i just think. i have just been. i was struck by on monday when elizabeth warren and hillary clinton were in cincinnati. people were like, this is exciting. golly, this is our high point. i just, i have not been particularly moved by the veep stakes at this point. i love, this is like my wheel house. this is like my nba draft. >> wait until hillary clinton, willie, picks tim kaine and all the hairs -- >> it will be electroifying. >> usually moved by the veep stakes. brings a tear to his eye. >> not this year. >> not this year. >> any actual reporting on who donald trump is talking about. does he have a short list? >> i'm pretty confident those two are on the short list. >> scott brown?
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>> i don't believe so. i think based on the totality of my reporting, i'd say christy gingrich and i think bob corker, but i'm not sure who the fourth one is. still ahead, president obama demonstrates to buzz feed a few things that are really tough about out registering to vote. >> including every "game of thrones" character who has died. ♪ >> he's pritgy at that. the friendship bracelet. ben smith joins the conversation to explain what we just showed you. which i wish he hadn't done.
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>> the reality is that, of course, you think about things like that from time to time. i don't think an independent candidate can win. the idea of running and asking people to come around me with the sole purpose of being a spoiler is not something i could in good faith go out to donors and voters and say, help me stop this candidate or that candidate. >> so the door totally closed? >> the door is closed, unless both candidates come to me and ask me to please save them. i think that is unlikely. 2012 republican nominee mitt romney speaking yesterday at the atlantic ideas festival. joining us now former top strategist, stewart stevens. he's out with a new politically charged novel entitled "the innocent have nothing to fear." also with us the editor in chief of buzz feed. >> let's start with mitt rommy.
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do you think an independent can't win? >> i think he's right. history shows it's very tough to win. he could theoretically get thrown into the house but i never understood in the house why probably an independent would come in third. doesn't make sense. so, i think it's very hard for an independent to win. >> do you think it's, for this year or even four years from now, eight years from now? >> as long as the parties are structured the way they are now, it's almost impossible for an independent to win. i mean, the market tells us that because people would have won and run. >> after this year, is it impossible for a republican to win? >> i think it depends on what happens with the republican party. it's increasingly difficult for the republicans to win a national election with the party configured as it is now. >> i don't want to sound like kevin philips who spent 30 years attacking the republican party and probably didn't vote for a republican for 30 years. how do we win nationally when
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60% of people in primaries say they want to ban muslims coming from the united states and they want to ban mosques in america. how does that party win nationwide? >> it's hard. navigating a primary is a very difficult exercise. i mean, for both parties. i saw hillary clinton go through this. she was beaten by someone who was a democrat. i think both parties are at a point where they're really questioning why they exist and what roles they have in people's lives and increasingly when people register to vote, they register as independents because they're not drawn to either party. i think it's going to be a real question here. hillary clinton is clearly the last of that generation that's going to run. i think who she picks as her vice president is so telling because she's anointing another generation in all likelihood. and what happens post-trump? >> right. >> we don't know. >> can you ask. i'm disturbed by what i saw.
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>> he's the president of the united states. and untangling headphones. what is going on? >> i mean journalists can't get this guy taso sit down and answ questions on syria. you got him untangling headphones. how are you this powerful? >> i have two answers. like look back with mtv and rock the vote. how to speak to young people to try to get them to register to vote. this year when you have millennials so alienated from both parties, it is a good moment to try to get him to do it. why president obama was willing to participate in this. it is a good cause to get people to register and he's willing to experiment a bit with media. >> willie geist. another acrourronym we were usi. you don't care at the end of your term as you used to.
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i want to go back to what a guy like you so critical of donald trump right from the beginning. what are you left with now? you're a republican. i talked to a lot of republicans when i ask this question. i don't know, do i even vote? what do i do? >> i vote for, i think the senate candidates are terrifically important here and i think the real test here for republicans is to still come out and vote for senate candidates. terrific senate candidates out there. >> no, i'm in the, i wouldn't vote for either category. >> you're never going to vote for trump. >> no. i'm not. i don't think trump is qualified to be president of the united states. which seems to be an opinion i share with mitch mcconnell. >> but you say it, mitch implies it. >> why will mitch say it? >> why can't -- >> i wouldn't speak for mitch mcconnell. i think that clearly -- this latest fox poll shows 51% of
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republicans wanted someone else right now. trump is getting 74% of republicans. you know, you have to get that north of 90 if you're a democrat or a republican to even be in the game. >> but especially if you're a republican going, going, going. >> ben, let me ask you an independent question. obviously, you're talking about younger voters that you guys focus on more. obviously, a great alienation from both parties. do you think it's possible for an independent to be elected in the next five, ten years? >> i mean, people have been alienated from their political system for a long time. i do think the challenge is what exactly is that path? and part of it is so expensive. when know when mike bloomberg was thinking about it in march, he had to decide by march and start spending tens of millions of dollars getting unbalanced and setting up organizations. who are the people that that kind of alienated independent. i'm not sure the kind of
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70-year-old billionaire who can afford it and do that process is your guy. it's not, it's not a path that lends itself to a grassroots movement at all. it also has to start so far before the election. >> what about a movement guy like bernie sanders running as an independent? a guy that can raise money in small donations and go on his own path without the party because it does feel like now younger voters especially attached to purersonalities and movements. >> it seems like a place inside is inside the party. hillary clinton escaped a very strong candidacy and donald trump took over the republican party. i think if you're outside your candidate and you're not saying run as an independent, these parties are incredibly weak. >> stewart stevens, the book is "the innocent have nuthing to fear." >> it is set in the near future in new orleans. you know, i finished it long
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before sort of trump emerged but a character in there who is a republican governor of colorado. big populous, strong anti-immigration and wants to rewrite the bill of rights. i thought after an economic crash because these crazy things could be happening. >> they're happening now. >> we didn't need an economic crisis for these things to happen. but i like compressed time frames. >> right. >> it's narrated by a guy who is running the campaign against this populous and he's from new orleans. a lot about his family. so, you know what i was trying to do is sort of push what could happen in our politics out to the edge so we can look at it and have fun with it. >> a lot of people floating down the mississippi river by the end? >> it has good -- more than most conventions. >> all right. ben smith, thank you, as well. and still ahead on "morning joe" -- >> tonight i'm announcing a new national effort to get it done and because he's gone to the mat for all of us on so many issues
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>> i firmly believe we can do in the next five years what
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ordinarily take ten. and think of what that will mean. think of how many people you know who are saying are saying, doc, i just want to make it one more month to see my daughter get married. doc, doc, if i could just make it, if i could make it another four months, i'll be able to pay off the house and my wife will be okay when i go. doc, doc, all i want to do is see my daughter graduate. >> that was vice president joe biden, whose cancer moon shot initiative is calling for a decade's worth of progress in cancer research in half the time. joining us now, nbc news correspondent who just sat down with the vice president and former white house adviser for health policy and for dr. emmanuel. tom, first of all, tell us about your discussion with the vice president. >> well, we did this in two
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parts. i was with him in washington and then he came up to sloan-kettering and he went through the labs there. i must say, he is dialed in on what's going on in cancer in every regard. all the research that's going on. the cost of it. so, we walked down the corridors of sloan-kettering and nothing that focuses you on cancer like in his case losing his son to cancer. so, here's what we talked about when we were at sloan-kettering. everybody is calling this a moonshot, but moonshot means a singular effort as probably you are discovering and did with bo that cancer treatment is divided up into 1,000 parts. >> over 100 plus different cancers. and the whole idea of the moonshot is you remember, tom, less about getting to the moon than developing a whole generation of engineers and scientists. this is a moment. >> it could be a unifier. >> it could be.
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>> at a time when the country needs. >> what i learned and what my family learned when i was diagnos diagnosed. we were always sympathetic but we couldn't be empthetic until it invaded our family. suddenly you were thrown into you can't find a way out of it and it's terribly painful. >> nothing worse than a spouse or a child or a parent being helpless and being able to deal with whatever that problem is. i often say there is a difference between understanding and empathy and it's hard to, and people mean well. i don't know how many people say, tom, i know what you're going through. how you doing. and after a while you feel like saying, you have no idea what i'm going through. i know you're trying to be nice. unfortunately, there's probably
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more people who when they say i know what you're going through in cancer mean it. >> but a lot to be said, as well, for the pain that you went through and what made you able to do given your position and your personality for others who are going through this because it was added incentive. however painful it was and it was terribly painful. >> reality has a way of intruding, but the difference is when it intruded with you, you had a value set. you had a family. you had something there. people i feel so badly for are the people who get confronted with this and don't have any real support. i mean, they're just getting up and putting one foot in front of the other and nobody to turn to. >> i think about them all the time. as we stand here, 1,600 people are dying in america today. >> right now. right now. >> that's the culprit.
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>> by the way, the projections are if we don't get a handle on this, we're talking about going to 24 million people being in a position where contracting cancer. we're going to stop it. we're going to change it. i really believe it. i really, really believe it. >> really moving conversation. >> well, you know, listen, there's nothing quite like having it happen in your family and make you understand it more clearly. we were together yesterday at the opening of the summit and four or five big things he wants to do. he wants to have a common website so everybody can look and see doctors, patients and other interested people on what is going on. he wants to cut the time it takes to get a clinical trial approved. he also wants to get the country together in terms of understanding that we have too many silos in in cancer. but they had to share a lot
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more. i also think this is going to be his calling. he's going to go out of office before too long, joe, and then what does he do post-political life. i think this might be it. >> these are exciting times for cancer research, not just what is happening at penn, but what is happening. we've seen it at duke and across the country. you talk about moonshots for cancer. doing some remarkable things. >> well, it has been 40 years since we started the war on cancer and there is a lot of progress in the last few years. we have immune therapies which we pioneered at penn but a lot of places are really making great progress on it and i'd say the second thing that is sort of exciting and optimistic, we have about 800 drugs in clinical trials for cancer, which is a huge number. so, there is a lot of attention there and a lot of real focus. and i think what tom mentioned is the silos are really the problem. you know, breaking that down. you know, if you're an academia
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you're rewarded for what you do, not rewarded for collaborating. i think if joe can change that, vice president biden can change that attitude that this is a common activity. >> are we at a tipping point? >> a lot of people think we are. i don't like to overpromise because the war on cancer is that we're going to solve it in a decade and it's taken 40 years because it's harder than going to the moon. but i think a lot of researchers think. we have handles. we understand the genetics better than we ever have and i think it would be great to have the vice president really focus on this and not one off the summit and then have it disappears. >> thank you so much and, tom brokaw, thank you. >> tom's been busy. >> i know. >> brazil. hanging with the vice president. >> i got back from brazil two days ago at 6:30 in the morning and went on stephen colbert that night and went to washington and did some work and did this and i can be here all tuned up in the
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one of the things that's easy to forget amid the inflated rhetoric of an election campaign is that the relationship between
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our three countries goes far deeper than any individual leaders. >> that's nativism, or xenophobia or worse or it's just cynicism. >> that's president obama and justin talking about donald trump yesterday without mentioning his name. here we are. we waited. they are showing how other countries view both hillary clinton and donald trufrmp. t can you walk us through this? >> 83% of the sweeds love her. 79% of germans like clinton and 71% of the french say they have confidence in clinton. >> how about trump? >> less than a quarter say they
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love him. the three that expressed the most confidence is italy, hungry and china. >> and sweden is at 6%. >> who did they survey there? >> popular. >> the people of sweden mostly. >> maybe they have never heard of him. >> 92% of sweds don't have confidence. >> he doesn't play to them. >> i think if he picked mickey rork up. >> jerry lewis. >> busey. >> i think it's busey. >> yeah.
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if you believe donald trump was going to be the nominee and you believed bernie sanders was going to come close please raise your hand. if you just raised your hand please don't drive on automobile here in the metro area. you're a danger tore danger to yourself. you're crazy. >> the fox news poll shows hillary clinton with a 6 point lead over trump. the democrat up 2 points since may. trump has sunk 7 points. the republican party is less than united. 74% backing trump. when asked who they prefer as the republican nominee 48% say
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donald trump and 51% say someone else. >> and these numbers have gotten worse. what goes up must come down i suppose. >> uh-huh. >> blood, sweat and tears saying. this is obviously just a snapshot but he has lost 7 points and the republican party more divided than it was a month ago. it is just a snapshot in time. >> i thought these would go down. i think things began to really turn for trump in which his trick wasn't working for him during the judge situation. i think he lost all credibility. it is very hard for people to stay with him now. and i thought the poll numbers would go down. i really did. i said it out loud, and they are. he is going to have to do a lot
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now to pivot to the general. >> yeah. and he hasn't done it over the past five weeks. this obviously is the indiana judge and actually post orlando, doing all of these things. you can see the mass accumulation. there is -- you know, again, look at the state-by-state polls and he is pretty close. this has been his worst month since he has been campaigning. >> no question about it. you have had enough polls where the washington post poll had him down. you have seen it in three or four national polls. look at ohio, pennsylvania, florida he is running close enough but the one poll that she showed at the end there, more than half of republicans don't think he is the guy. if he can't win over his own
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party nforget the next vote. he has got to convince his own party he is the nominee first. >> and to put everything in perspective there is a poll out yesterday that basically had him tied. >> right. >> 42-40 hillary up. i think the nbc poll was up five or six points. the washington post poll was too skewed democratic had it 12 or 13 behind. he has lost a lot of points. but mike, what's interesting is you have a party that's split but he is still attacking his own party. donald trump is still attacking his own party. he did it again yesterday. >> he did it again yesterday. we now return to the segment called ask the experts. >> ask the experts. we have one here. >> he is -- >> it's the sweater.
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>> but do we have two donald trumps active in this campaign? we have one behind the podium reading the teleprofmpter. you can see him going tauf rails on a couple of different situations. how much of this plays in? >> he has got to learn to do other things. he still doesn't love th the teleprofrper. he would rather be doing big rallies. they have to do the day-to-day stuff. they are growing. >> how are they growing? >> they are hiring people. >> but he speaks only to the converted in halls. they are there because they want to hear what he says and they like him. >> trade in theory -- she shoul
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be able to reach the blue collar democrats. they are not out of it. >> it's what we said the other day, if you're going to turn the page you have got to unite the entire republican party. >> perfect. >> you can't have one day i'm going to read the teleprompter and then go back to july 2015. if he doesn't have the discipline hillary clinton will blow him out. if he has the discipline and if he carries out over the course of the campaign this is going to be an incredibly fascinating race. >> so you turn the page and unite the party like this. take a look. >> when you sign a pledge -- and this isn't a pledge that says i'm subject to changing my mind. i think it's like legally binding, if you want to know the truth. i have guys out there and they
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are really sore losers. i wouldn't have gone crazy and wouldn't have had let's yell it from the loudest building but i would have honored the pledge. remember this, they signed a pledge saying that will abide saying they will back the candidate of the party and now they sit back and pledge is out there and the press doesn't go after them on that. they broke their word. in my opinion, they shouldn't be allowed to run for public office again. >> the stupidity is breathtaking. the stupidity is breathtaking. you have a guy who can convert democrats in ohio and pennsylvania and then the next day -- because he talking about people. he is talking about bringing
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other people's jobs back to america. then he goes off on gop candidates. he keeps knocking them around. who cares? who cares if jeb bush endorses him? who cares if kasich endorses him? it's like he was losing in iowa. he went to iowa and called people in iowa stupid. the guy, is he capable of being disciplined and moving on or not? >> it doesn't appear so. every time he takes a step forward he takes a couple of steps back. attacking john kasich is
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probably not the best approach. i think for donald trump it is part of his personality. it is score settling, people who have wronged him. he carries a chip on his shoulder. running off of popular governors of swing states is probably not the best idea. all right. donald trump yesterday continued to blame hillary clinton for the rise of the islamic state. >> isis was formed during his tenure. isis is now worse than ever. you see what happened yesterday. you see what's going on generally. isis is looking strong. isis is signing up people over the internet. they know how to use the internet better than we do. we do nothing. they are taking our youth. you know why they are taking our youth? because it looks like they are winning. it could have been wiped out
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quickly and effectively then now it's a very large group of people. it's only getting bigger. if she gets in it will be massive. we won't even have a country anymore and we will be afraid to walk outside. remember one other thing. they are letting tens of thousands of people come in and a lot of those people are isis. >> and you're actually a republican criticizing a democratic nominee -- presumptive nominee. >> you cannot run on fear and win. >> i thought that's what we did in america. >> no. he can't do it. he can't do it. >> you don't think -- >> no. no. and again, i fall back on what is going to happen to his language and his behavior once he begins getting intelligence
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briefings. he is so far off the rails on this it is great. there are two elements. there's the head and there's the heart. you have to think clinton makes some sense. if your voting with your heart on trade or isis you're inclined to go with trump. >> could you say this in 2004? i don't criticize people for voting their fears. in 2004 i voted for george w. bush because i didn't think kerry would be strong enough. >> why didn't you think he would be strong enough? >> it is a gut feeling. >> because they portrayed him -- >> no. because i thought he would be wringing his hands in critical times and he wouldn't be able to make strong decisions. i don't want to replay 2004. >> what about the o'reilly line? there are thousands coming in from syria.
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there were not -- >> thousands coming in where? >> into the united states. we are not going to have a country anymore. >> we'll pull that. >> you know, fear mongering a little bit, he is stable. >> and -- >> but it is trump's biggest vulnerability. >> i think my thing is people really vote their gut on issues like this. they vote who is going to protect my kids? i'm very concerned about donald trump. i have expressed those concerns repeat l repeatedly for some time. there are some hearing trump talking about isis saying hey, he is going protect us more than say hillary clinton. >> you had yesterday the c.i.a.
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director coming out saying it out loud. when donald trump says what he said it will with some people. you have to say which one will be stronger for me? some may think it is clinton and others may think it is trump because of gut level. >> i remember you telling me a long time ago how it would make you angry in 2004 when people said they would vote for george w. bush because they felt he would make them safe. i'm not saying it is right or wrong but people vote their gut and fears a lot of time. >> here is brennan talking about the next potential attack. >> it would be surprising to me that kril isil is not trying to us in the region as well as in our homeland. if anybody here believes that the u.s. homeland is home
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etically sealed i would guard against that. >> tough talk, mike. >> very tough talk but very realistic talk. you can't erect a barricade around the united states of america. there are some who could carry out what was carried out in istanbul. there is no doubt about that. donald trump goes around saying we are doing virtually nothing to conduct operations against isis. that's just not true. >> yeah. >> at some point he willing asked, donald, what would you do? >> i'm not comparing trump to j.f.k. but i happen to be reviewing a book about the kennedys. you look at the 1960 race. kennedy lied. they invented it out of thin
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air. his story will tell you, they lied about a missile gap that didn't exist and it worked. >> trump will win if people want change. his his -- so people may be willing to take a chance. i think in the end he will have to be a candidate for change with a little more reassure r -- >> hillary clinton will be on continuity. >> what is interesting you have the anxiety of isis and the anxiety that trump creates around himself. he showings extraordinary lack of discipline. instead of staying focused, talking about the workers,
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working class, struggling americans, hillary clinton and her failures. he goes back -- like -- it's mind boggling. >> i think the key thing, you know, people do vote their fears, they do. but they can't fear you. they can't fear that you're unhinged. they can't fear that you say one thing and mean another. they can't fear that you'll blurt out a blatant lie. >> they can't fear that in the middle of a conference over let's say in geneva where you're negotiating something, sthat yo read an article and you go off on somebody else the next day. >> yeah. >> at a press conference. does he have any discipline at
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all? can he do the same thing two days in a row? right now the answer seems to be a resounding no. still ahead on "morning joe" president obama barely won north carolina in 2008 and lost it in 2012. he will be helping hillary clinton win the state this year. the justice department investigate's hillary clinton's e-mail server, questions about what they discussed and why they would ever have a private meeting in the first place. first, a check on the forecast. i'm getting a lot of questions about the holiday weekend forecast. we'll be dodging thunderstorms. we have a little bit of rain in south ern arizona and we are watching thunderstorms in the middle of the country. if we will have any trouble watch out in kansas and missouri. those are the areas we'll have numerous problems.
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2 to 4 inches of rain. it could get into the flash flooding category. today watch out in the carolinas. isolated storms for st. louis. if you're traveling late in the day from philadelphia and new york there will be straight thunderstorms and minor delays. by the time we get into saturday and sunday the southern part is -- and as we head towards the 4th of july forecast it is pretty much the same forecast with the worst weather right along the front to the mid-atlantic region as we go into your holiday monday. looking at a beautiful day today. chance of thunderstorms tonight and then a picture perfect holiday weekend in store for you. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. it there. that's why we make more ecommerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. the us postal service. priority: you
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this coming tuesday president obama will be hitting the campaign trail are clinton in north carolina. president obama won north carolina in 2008 but lost to romney in 2012. meanwhile the conservative watchdog reveals that dozens of e-mails that went through clinton's private server were in the included last year. public records lawsuits including many brought by the group judicial watch raised at least 160 e-mails. one e-mail lead to a question. clinton did not want the state department e-mails that she sent and received on her private server to be accessible to anybody. >> what's the bottom line in this?
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>> we don't know what's going on with the investigation. they haven't interviewed -- >> clinton does. >> she got a briefing from loretta lynch. >> we don't know what they are doing. they haven't interviewed her as far as we know. they turned over a lot of rocks. i still don't see it but it's all kind of still out there. >> whether or not she is indicted though, if you look at her honest and trustworthy numbers, it's stories like this democrats dismiss and say they are witch hunts. whether or not it is illegal or whether or not she is indicted people look at the way she has handled it and say they weren't marked confidential. all of these put up a cloud of suspicion. >> and even on the polls by 15
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percentage points americans found trump more honest and straightforward than clinton. democrats have been dismissing them. it doesn't matter. >> she is arguably the luckiest in the democratic party running against donald trump. that's her ace card in the hole. come mid-to late october we'll be sitting there in a country where there are many, many people out there married, two kids, three kids thinking i have a junior in high school. i hope the kid doesn't get into a really expensive college. i haven't had a real raise in 12 years. i don't care about the e-mails. who is going to take care of me economically better? that's going happen. >> it's a good thing if you look at the big picture with hillary clinton.
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you have to have an attorney general that is there. >> absolutely. >> isn't partial. >> impartial is the word that comes to mind. it is critical. >> right. this morning questions about what could have been discussed between a private meeting between former president bill clinton. >> you can't make it up. >> and attorney general loretta lynch yesterday. >> you can't make this up. >> i'm sorry. it happened on tuesday. the face-to -- they say the meeting with the former president was unplanned and that she and bill clinton never discussed the e-mail investigation. we are told the two just happened to be at the phoenix airport at the same time when the former president boarded her plane.
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>> boy, this is beyond optics. this is unbelievable. >> the good news is it gives rush material for three hours today. >> he is a foreman democratic president. perfectly reasonable to talk except under these circumstances. >> there is no way you let him come on your plane and talk privately. there is no way. >> no. because of the question that mark posed a few minutes ago, we don't know what's going on with the investigation yet. we just don't no, i. >> and it's her decision. she shouldn't have let her on the plane. he shouldn't have wanted to get on the plane. i understand they are friends and have a lot to talk about. >> there's nothing else to talk about but the one thing. >> yeah.
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>> willie, he hears she is about to arrive. she is doing something about community policing in phoenix. he holds the plane and he did. he wanted to talk to her about community policing and what's happening in phoenix. >> of course he did. >> he held his plane to go talk to her about that. it shouldn't have happened on either side. lynch showed herself to be a pretty solid person. >> it goes back to when she wanted to have her private server. i don't understand how someone wouldn't have said this is a bad idea. >> you can't do that. >> not allowed. >> even in my little, little, little world in a congressional office, if i ever suggested anything along those lines i would have 12 people jumping up
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yelling at me. >> bad idea, congressman, don't do it. >> bad idea, stay away. there were several times -- and that's the question first of all, these people showed the most extraordinarily bad judgment and where was their staff? >> yeah. >> who was ton the plane with loretta lynch to say you can't do this. >> i don't think she needs anyone to tell her it's not a good idea. it's so obviously and they didn't talk about it? >> i bet they didn't talk about it. >> everybody stop. john joining us with the latest on airport security and ahead of the 4th of july weekend. we'll talk to the chairman of the house sub committee about the warning from the c.i.a. director that isis is likely
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:31 past the hour. nbc news confirmed at least 24 people have been taken into custody after the operations in istanbul and the coastal city of
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iz mere. they have released a picture reportedly showing terror suspects captured on the tv. nbc news has not verified images. police do tell nbc news that the three attackers are a russian national. the death toll now stands at 43. 19 of those killed were foreigners. airports across the country are stepping up security as people prepare to travel for the busy 4th of july weekend. tom, what's the security like there? >> reporter: it's really not changed a whole heck of a lot. most airports have not changed their security posture at all. you have optical changes allowing their tactical units but for the most part it's the
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same kiennd of business as usua. the airports know they have some problem with those smuggling weapons. there seems to be improvement on that. as it relates to the interest to the airport that's a whole different story. in istanbul a new security director may have saved lives. they immediately confronted the attackers preventing them from moving deeper into the terminal, a lesson not lost on other airport security experts. israel's airport has a reputation for the tightest security in the world. police and military units use facial recognition cameras and question every passenger. the security starts at the airport perimeter. >> before you're allowed to drive your car towards the front of the terminal this is the
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first measure. from that moment on you're in a secured area and that area is covered by surveillance systems. >> reporter: here in the u.s. no airport stops every approaching car. michelle is in l.a. >> at lax it's not uncommon to see police officers heavily armed throughout this area. in most european airports two and three man military units patrol the terminals. here in the u.s. tactical police are most common in the big cities but very few position them at the entry doors. >> often hundreds of people standing in close proximity of one another and anyone can walk right in. >> reporter: you shops and restaurants well before the security check points. there is some law enforcement
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here but these common areas remain open. >> they reviewed foreign airport security omgss. the countries in red are viewed at being at high risk. does anybody in europe do a better job at security? >> the french do because they put armed military personnel as a very visible deter rans in the front side of the airport. >> reporter: most u.s. airports are not hardened to with stand an attack. if you look at u.s. airports versus israeli airports there is only one that has international flights tel aviv. so try to take some of the lessons from tel aviv is a very difficult task.
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>> all right. thank you very much. joining us now republican congressman peter king. he is the chairman of the sub committee on terrorism. also brian walsh is here with time's latest reporting and how it could signal the opening of a new front in the war against isis. >> so congressman, you just saw costello's report. what did you see there that we can apply? >> i think we always have to be ada adapting. i think we need more bomb-sniffing dogs not just at the entrances but where the tsa inspectors are. how close is the nearest cop for them to stop the attack. also i think we need more use of license plate readers. it will be hard to do facial recognition of everyone coming
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into our airports. it is such a great disparity. we could always be doing more. i think no matter how much we do at the airports at the number of overseas travelers that we have, we can never stop all of the attacks that happen at the airport. the important thing is have the intelligence to stop it before it gets there. i think we need more surveillance and more monitoring. that is where the emphasis has to be. absolutely, it has to be a constant work in progress. the enmy is always adapting to us. we have to stay ahead of them. >> where is the tale? >> it shows russia as a major source and clearly shows they will be part of this. they will be able to be coming through turkey.
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it is a place where they can go into syria and into iraq. it is really where they have been able to sort of set up shop. it is beginning to actually fight back. in some ways with these attacks we have seen this one. over the previous year isis is fighting back. we say a new front this is likely where we'll see a lot of attacks moving forward. >> outside the united states what three current leaders based on attitude and resources are most devoted to winning the war on terror? >> i would say king abduala and also the egyptians. >> let me ask you a follow-up question. donald trump said thousands and thousands of syrians are streaming into the united
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states -- >> many are isis. >> is there any evidence of any of that at all? >> i think the total amount of syrian refugees is around 4,800. i was on your show before. i am concerned about syrian refugees coming in. >> i agree with you, it's hard to vet but i'm talking about donald trump's claim that thousand and thousands of terrorists are streaming across the border, many of them isis. >> 4,800 syrian refugees and i'm not aware of any terrorist -- first of all nobody would let an isis terrorist into the country. >> if anybody knew of this
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investigation it would be you and not donald trump, right? >> i would hope so, yeah. so let's talk more about what you uncovered. i know we call it the new face of isis more than the new face of terrorism. what is time looking at? >> i think we are seeing isis getting squeezed in syria. it is expected to cause them to lash out more almost to show jih jih jihadis around the world that we are still here. you can defeat them on the battlefield but it doesn't mean you'll be better at stopping them from these type of attacks. they were not able to stop it. they were able to minimize it but you still saw more than 40 people die. >> and it was the dream, it was the magnet. that's what was drawing foreign
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fight ners. obviously we understand that isis isn't going to lie down and die or surrender but at the same time if we take that territory from them we certainly do slow down the recruitment, right? we would hope. >> isis is as dangerous now as they have ever been. they are also adapting. we have to keep up the extraordina extraordinary pressure on them. they have established beach heads around the world. 800 at least involve isis. the rest of it, i think 100 in this country already. with it extending they are not
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just lone wolves but isis managed to appeal as the guy in orlando, as the person who attacked cops in new york with a machete last year. they know how to bring these people in. there is an extra element in their army. >> when you brought up the fbi i have to ask you, what do you think about bill clinton meeting privately yesterday? >> i had a lot of respect for loretta lynch in new york. i was upset with some of the things she has done in the last two weeks. any where bill clinton goes will be controversy. you and i know that better than everyone. >> thank you. keeps up the tradition sending a bill to the president's desk to rescue puerto rico with default with
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share the joy. he replaced david cameron is now announcing he is not going to stand for leadership of the conservative party. cameron took aim at labor leader for his role urging him the step down for the good of the country. take a look at this. >> we all have to reflect on our role. i know he says he put his back into it. he talks about job insecurity and my two months to go. it might be in my party's interest and i would say for heaven's sake, man, go.
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>> that exchange took place today after more than three quarters of his own party said they didn't have confidence in his leadership. he is vowing to not resign. johnson, i think rayburn says it takes a carpenter to build one. he said he can kick it down. it is shocking, three quarters of labor, he says he is not going any where. hopefully they will decide who ends up leading the party. he represents a movement and how labor will do things. he won't go until they tell them to go. >> wow. >> let's bring in sarah who just got back from a week in london. they seem to have found their footing after the brexit vote.
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>> it is change because the country, as you just mentioned is in political chaos. a world of uncertainty for business right now for what the terms of trade, migration will look like in these me gaucnegot. it is higher for u.s. stocks. we have now fought back 60% of the post brexit losses. what's interesting is some of the leading contenders are on different sides of the brexit debate. you have teresa may. she campaigned for britain to stay inside the e.u. he was in the exit kpafrcamp. they want to see how it will look and what it means for britain's economy. i want to tell you about the fact that congress has cleared
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:53 past the hour. 240 reasons to celebrate america right now. >> counter intuitive. i like it. >> list them all. >> all 240. >> yes, right now, go. >> you know, we talked to people like ken burns, national parks, people like darren walker and sort of a charity impulse. you know, we wanted to focus on the good things about the united states. it is an issue that our editor promises is 99% politics free, at least u.s. politics. i think even our poll shows even though we don't feel it they still report being optimistic. there is a lot to celebrate about america. we found every reason we can. >> how many reasons are the apple store? >> exactly. that's where i would put it. >> it's ridiculous. >> there is a reason to celebrate america every time you
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walk down any street main this country. >> absolutely. >> i think free politics. people are really up to here with how uncivil things have become. i'm surprised. >> and how unpopular the two nominees are. this is a needed break. >> just because the nominees are unpopular and presidential politics doesn't mean we have soured on the country. there is a lot of great things about the u.s. >> all right. great having you here. >> what, if anything, did we learn today?
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welcome back. it's time to talk about what we learned today. >> given everything you cannot turn the page if you keep turning it back. you can't. you just can't. >> you can't blurt out unreasonable -- >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> is that what you learned? >> there is trump an and teleprompter trump. one turns the page and the other doesn't. >> sounds like an avengers movie. >> he knows more about medicine than he does about politics. >> i think hickenlooper. zeke is saying hickenlooper might be the -- >> she won't pick him. not what she is looking for in a partner. >> can you say tim cane?
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>> tim cane. >> not elizabeth? >> okay. mark seems quite confident. he says gingrich and -- gl. >> and maybe it's the senator from alabama. >> okay. you have to put sessions at the top. >> that does it for us. stephanie picks up the coverage right now. good morning. i'm stephanie. breaking news. the turkey bombers identified as russian, do they have ties to isis? police arrest more than a dozen suspects in connection with the attacks that left 43 dead. also hitting back u.s. lead air strikes destroy an isis convoy killing as many as 250 militants. plus on alert the c.i.a. director warning about possible attacks inside the u.s.

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