tv The Place for Politics 2016 MSNBC September 11, 2016 1:00pm-2:01pm PDT
good day. i'm chris jansing at msnbc world headquarters in new york where it is now 4:01 p.m. we begin with hillary clinton back home in chappaqua, new york, after falling ill during the 9/11 ceremony in new york city. she did leave that ceremony early, around 9:30 this morning, after feeling overheated in the words of her campaign. new video this afternoon shows clinton clearly unstable as she was being helped into her vehicle. she was then driven to her daughter's nearby apartment. and a few hours later she left chelsea's on her own accord smiling and waving. >> how are you feeling, secretary clinton? >> okay. >> are you feeling better? >> yes, thank you, very much. thanks, everybody. >> nbc's morgan bradford is near
clinton's home in chappaqua, new york. what's the latest there? >> reporter: chris, we were here the moment hillary clinton arrived at her home. she was in that typical van she travels and followed by two unmarked cars as well as local law enforcement vehicles that were ushering her into that cul-de-sac where she shares a home with former president bill clinton. and they've lived here since 2000, since they left the white house. and that is where bill clinton was waiting when his wife appeared unsteady at a 9/11 memorial earlier this morning. you can see in video a sense where she's clearly leaning against her secret service aides as they're helping her get into that same traveling vehicle. now, what's curious, chris, is that reporters were not allowed to follow her or know her whereabouts for the 90 minutes following the time when that video emerged. so it's unclear where she went immediately after, but we do know as you mentioned she later emerged from her daughter chelsea clinton's manhattan home and her spokesperson said she was feeling overheated, went to her daughter's home playing with
grand kids and that's what happened before she came here. the question is what happens next. she's scheduled to be in san francisco tomorrow morning. and then she has a fundraiser tomorrow evening in san francisco. and tuesday she has not one but two fundraisers in los angeles. in the meantime she'll be here at her home in chappaqua, chris. >> nbc's morgan radford, thank you for that update. let me bring in hallie jackson. donald trump was also at that ceremony. any reaction from him or his campaign? >> nothing. nothing from his campaign or trump himself though nbc news did catch up with him when he was visiting a fire house in manhattan, one of the hardest hit fire companies affected by september 11th. trump was there with former new york city mayor rudy giuliani. let's play a little bit. he doesn't address it, says he doesn't know about it, but watch for yourself when our inbed ali vitale asked. a question about hillary
clinton's health incident this morning? >> i don't know anything about it. >> not much from donald trump there. nothing from him on twitter. in fact, today has largely been devoted for the gop nominee to focusing on september 11th. nothing from him either about the other big political headline of the weekend which has been that basket of deplorables comment from hillary clinton. instead trump releasing a lengthy statement about the 9/11 anniversary saying it is a day of remembrance and sadness, but also of resolve. chris. >> a very different donald trump that a lot of people wondered if that person existed. somebody who let the 9/11 anniversary stand on its own, only release that statement. didn't take an opportunity today -- not to say that he won't take an opportunity tomorrow. >> and that's going to be the question, right? how does he respond when and if he ultimately does tomorrow or later in the week, you would say. traditionally you expect a candidate, a nominee, to say they're thankful that their rival nominee is okay and then get back to sort of the race of it and the campaigning of it.
but we'll see how trump and the tone that trump chooses to take when and if he does say something about hillary clinton's health. his first rally after all this by the way, chris, tomorrow in asheville, north carolina. >> it also begs the question the health of both of them becomes a bigger issue in this campaign. and it already has been in the sense of medical records and really knowing in detail about what part medical backgrounds are, hallie. >> and ultimately of disclosure of how much each candidate is telling us. to be clear, we know more about hillary clinton's health than donald trump. she has put out a four or five-page letter from her physician. donald trump has put out four paragraphs from his physician about this. not mentioning, for example, his medications, his family history, et cetera. so trump has disclosed less about his health. but still, for both of these candidates it's less information than we have known about nominees in past cycles. >> it is indeed. hallie jackson, thank you very much. joining me now is associate professor at the nyu school of
medicine or as we've always known you just dr. debbie. thank you. they basically said she was overheated. what you see, and that's really all we know is what they've said and what we see on that tape, is it consistent? >> it is consistent. i mean, there are other possibilities. from that video i can't tell if she's near fainting or anything like that. it looks like she could have even just lost her balance with her knee buckling or something. it's not clear from that. i mean, if someone is near fainting or perhaps unsteady from that, the things you worry about is they're not getting enough blood flow to their brain, not enough oxygen to the brain. so that could be from simple things, ordinary things like it's hot, it's humid. >> standing. >> you're getting dehydrated. >> in place for an hour and a half. >> exactly. with a lot of people approaching you. exactly. sometimes when people feel a lot of pressure, anxiety, they breathe more quickly, hyperventilate and that can cause the same symptoms. and same things most of us go through, maybe we forgot to have breakfast, haven't had enough sleep, all of these factors can come into play. on the other hand, you always worry or think about the worst
case scenario, just as a physician those are the things you want to watch out for, right? >> she doesn't travel with a doctor, but there's a lot of training that goes into being a secret service agent. >> sure. >> they obviously made a decision hillary clinton the campaign secret service didn't go to the doctors, didn't go to the hospital, went to her daughter's and came out and here we see her a couple of hours later looking fine, looking like hillary clinton waving, talking to that little girl. is that another indicator that it may well have been what they said it was? >> i think so. i mean, she looks pretty healthy, she looks comfortable. she looks like her usual self saying hello to the little girl. i personally as a physician would have recommended just getting checked out of course, you know, if there is any possibility you might be fainting you worry about just cardiac causes. which can happen to anybody. for someone who's on tours, you might be thinking about could they possibly have bleeding and low blood count. i'm not saying those things are happening, but things you think
about. >> so you look at a person's medical history maybe she gets checked out. in a case like this where any of us on a day like today or yesterday to me felt worse in new york city, you could be overheated, get into a cool place, rest and hydrate. >> exactly. have something to eat and feel much better. >> dr. debbie, thank you so much. >> nice to see you. >> time for a quick break, when we come back, america remembers, today marking 15 years since the attacks that changed this country forever. all lost on september 11th, remembered by name today at ground zero, at the pentagon and in shanksville, pennsylvania. >> robert j.belwater. >> andrew j. bailey. >> brent t. bailey. >> tatiana -- >> michael s. backish. >> sharon n. -- >> michael andrew bain. who's with me? i'm in. i'm in. i'm in.
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[ bell ringing ] today's ceremony marks 15 years since the terrorist attacks of 9/11. lower manhattan of course was ground zero. friends and family gathering there today to remember more than 3,000 people who died. for more on our coverage of today's anniversary, joining me now nbc's rehema ellis. after 15 years remains an emotional day for i think almost everyone in this country. what can you tell us though particularly about the families who came back this year? >> reporter: chris, i can tell you that if you watch the ceremony today, you saw people crying. you saw them wiping away tears. you also saw some at moments
where they smiled, closed their eyes and remembered. one man who lost his son here, he said that his heart is still broken, but one of the things that he feels about his son's memory is that it's important for him to go on. so he's devoted his life to reminding people to what this area is all about, and that it is sacred ground and it's important for people to never forget. there was another young man that we heard from today who talked about he was only a child. and he's come of age now, he's a man himself, who lost his father 15 years ago because he worked in the north tower. that young man now spends his life helping people who are devastated by tragedies. both of these families say that they think that the best way they can honor the person whom they love is to keep getting on with their lives. i heard it again and again, not just today at today's ceremony, but i've heard it every year over the past 14 years -- 15 years since people died here on
9/11, chris. >> nbc's rehema ellis, thank you so much for being there for us today. president obama also paid tribute to 9/11 victims at the pentagon today, laying a wreath to honor the fallen. and urging americans to find strength in our diversity. >> groups like al qaeda, like isil, know that we will never be able -- they will never be able to defeat a nation as great and as strong as america, so instead they try to terrorize in the hopes that they can stoke enough fear that we turn on each other and that we change who we are or how we live. and that's why it is so important today that we reaffirm our character as a nation. >> and in shanksville, pennsylvania, bells rang in honor of the passengers on flight 93. they fought the hijackers
preventing them from attacking what may have been the target, the capitol or the white house. joining me now is nor man manetta, secretary of transportation on 9/11. secretary, good afternoon and thank you so much for being with us. and everyone has a memory of where they were that day, what they heard, what they saw. you were a member of the cabinet and were summoned to the white house bunker. tell us about your experience. >> thanks, chris. i was with the deputy prime minister of belgium who was also the transport minister isabel durant. and with jay garvey having breakfast in my conference room, and my chief of staff came in and said, may i see you. so i excused myself. went from the conference room into my office. and at the other end of the office was a tv console easily recognizable world trade center with black smoke coming out of
it. and i said what's that? what's going on? he said, we don't know. we heard the possibility of general aviation aircraft, possibility of a commercial airliner, possibility of an internal explosion within the building. so my chief of staff and i watched the tv and i said i've got to get back into that conference room. keep me posted. so i went back in and explained what i'd just seen on television. and several minutes later john came back in and said, may i see you. so when i went back into my office, he said it's been confirmed it's a commercial airliner. so i went up to the tv console and i'm watching the program, doing some channel surfing, and then all the sudden this gray thing goes across the screen,
disappears and then from the left hand side from the screen this white, yellow, orange, black, billowy cloud. and i said holy cow, what the heck was that? or words to that effect. and so i went back into the conference room and i said i don't know what's going on in new york city, but i know i'm going to have to deal with it. and, jane garvey you've got to get back to the operation center of faa, and mrs. durant, you'll have to excuse me. by the time i got back into my office, someone from the white house had called and said get over here immediately. so i put some manuals and stuff together and put them in my briefcase, went downstairs into my car and we drove over to the white house. >> how soon was it, secretary mineta, before it was clear to everybody -- and was it by the time you got to the white house that america was under attack? >> no, not at that point.
because i got out of the car, went into the situation room and got briefed by dick clark. and what he briefed me on is not much more than i had already heard on television, but then he said you've got to be in the peoc, he said that's the presidential emergency operation center, a bunker way under the white house. i said i have no idea where it is. and the secret service agent said i'll take you down. so i went with them to the bunker. and stayed there the rest of the day. >> so just the fact that you were taken there was clearly an indication of the seriousness of what was going on. at some point an unprecedented decision was made ordering a ground to all the planes in the u.s. tell us about how quickly and why that decision was ultimately made? >> well, in the peoc,
presidential emergency operation center, there's a big table, a long table probably 30 feet long, maybe 15 feet wide. and i was right across from the vice president. the military assistant came in and said there's a plane heading towards d.c. so i said to monty belcher, number two at the faa on the phone, monty, what do you have on the radar on the plane coming to d.c.? he said, well, we've got a plane coming from d.c., but the transponder's been turned off so we don't know anything about the aircraft except that we catch the target on the sweep of the radar as it goes around. and then when i said where would that airplane be? and it's hard to see a radar related to a point on the ground, so he said, well,
probably somewhere in the middle of pennsylvania. so every so often i'd ask him, where's the plane? well, probably north of baltimore. and where's the plane now? well, probably near rosland. where's the plane now? near pentagon city going towards national airport. where's the plane now? mr. secretary, oops, we've lost the target. where'd you lose the target? somewhere between pentagon city and the national airport. and then about that time someone broke into the line and said, mr. secretary, we just got a call from arlington county officer, police officer, saying he saw an american airlines plane go into the pentagon sochlt th. so then i said to monty, monty, that's the third commercial airliner today within the last three hours that's been used as a missile. and when you have one of something occur, it's an accident. when you have two things of the same thing occur within a
relatively short period of time, it's a trend. but when you have three of the same thing happen within a short period of time, then you got to consider a plan or an action. so i said, monty, in the military they have something called a standdown. and we're going to have to do our own standdown. so let's bring all the planes down. >> it was an extraordinary moment that day. i remember it. and then of course there was the fourth plane, flight 93. and as we just mentioned the people onboard were able to wrestle the hijackers and save countless lives. >> absolutely. >> do you believe that was aimed at where you were at the white house? >> well, you know, al qaeda used to always talk about the military icon, political icon, the economic icon. and today they had hit the economic icon at the world trade center, the pentagon, the military icon. so i will always be eternally grateful to those people on that
airplane for having taken it back from the terrorists who had taken over the plane. they got the plane back. and we'll never know, but that plane could have been heading towards the white house or to the capitol. so that plane -- that captain took that plane straight into the ground in the fields of shanksville, pennsylvania. >> so many stories of heroism and so many lives lost that we remember that day. former transportation secretary norman mineta, thank you for spending the time with us and sharing your remembrances. it's good to see you, sir. >> thank you, chris. it's an honor to be with you. coming up next, hillary clinton falls ill while honoring the lives lost at ground zero in new york. what we know about what happened and where the presidential candidate goes from here. that's after the break. here? (becky) i've seen such a change in einstein since he started eating the new beneful recipe. the number one ingredient in it is beef.
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i'm chris jansing in new york where we continue to today's top story in politics. hi hillary clinton falling ill. she is back home in chappaqua, new york. the campaign said she felt overheated. new video shows clinton clearly unstable as she is helped into her motorcade on her way to her daughter's apartment in manhattan to recover. a few hours later she left chelsea's saying she felt fine. and then headed home to chappaqua. there she is waving and saying hi to a little girl. joining me now from chappaqua, nbc's kristen welker who has been following the clinton campaign from the very beginning. kristen, what's the latest you're hearing from there? >> reporter: well, i'm working my sources and we all are, chris. so far no update. the big question is, has secretary clinton seen a physician since the incident this morning? no response yet to that question. let's go through what happened today. secretary clinton arrived at the 9/11 memorial ceremony just after 8:00 today along with donald trump. he was there as well. they both suspended their
campaign events for the day. she spent about an hour and a half there and then abruptly left, earlier than expected. and as you pointed out there is that video which shows her clearly leaning on her staffers for support, seeming wobbly, needing help getting into her campaign vehicle. she then was rushed to her daughter chelsea's apartment. her campaign didn't really tell us where she was and what she was doing for about another hour and a half when we learned that she was heading to chelsea's apartment. so she spent some time there, and then emerged just before noon. we asked her how she felt. take a look at that exchange. well, we asked her several questions includining did she fl better and she said in fact she did feel better. when i asked what happened, she didn't respond, she said it was a beautiful day in new york.
she was all smiles, got in her motorcade and came here to chappaqua. important to point out the political context here, as you know, chris, as we have been reporting on republicans have been spinning what the clinton campaign calls conspiracy theories about her health, suggesting that she's not in good health. of course you've heard donald trump say that she lacks stamina. they've been pushing back against that. and of course secretary clinton's physician has said that there's nothing to that. the physician saying that she is in good health. but we know that she hasn't at least visibly had any major health issues. she has had a few moments of having some coughing fits out on the campaign trail. she says that's just seasonal allergies. the latest serious health issue she had was back in 2012. that's when she had a concussion after falling and hitting her head when she had the flu. so, again, the campaign stressing that there's no broader problem with secretary clinton. they say she is feeling much better. and she's at her home here in chappaqua, we are told former president bill clinton also here in chappaqua, chris.
>> even before this the health of both questions have been raised, more by donald trump and rudy giuliani on his behalf asking for more medical information about her background. although i think we need to point out that we have a more extensive medical history on hillary clinton that's been officially released than we do on donald trump. having said that, do you think we're going to hear more from the campaign? the trump campaign has been remarkably restrained today. >> reporter: they've been remarkably restrained, chris. that's certainly worth noting. i would be surprised if the campaign didn't provide more details about secretary clinton's health in the wake of this if only to put to rest any concerns that there might be. and of course we are going to be asking her a number of questions. we now have been traveling with her, she has the press on her campaign plane, so we have access to her and more access than we had several weeks ago. so that undoubtedly will be the first question we put to her as soon as we can. at this point in time she is scheduled to go off to
california for a fund raising swing starting tomorrow, chris. >> all right, kristen welker, thank you so much for that update. joining me now fred yang, democratic pollster and partner, and political correspondent with "the washington post," and catherine editor and chief of "reason" magazine. anne, let me start with you because you have covered hillary clinton for years now. give us your perspective on what we saw today. >> well, i think i really can't add a lot as far as the point by point that kristen just gave on what actually happened today, but i can certainly say that this episode comes at a very bad time for hillary clinton. we're only eight weeks from the election. the campaign has pushed back for months now against what they say are republican conspiracy theories built on nothing. that there's something wrong with hillary clinton's health. this is about the worst time from their perspective for them
to have video of her looking unsteady. even if an hour and a half after that video she looked perfectly fine. it is certainly now going to be a -- an issue she and the campaign will have to spend time talking about when they'd rather spend more time talking about issues and policies that actually would be part of the election. this is going to be a big distraction for her. >> in the meantime we're also seeing how close this race is. the new abc news/"the washington post" poll has clinton up by five points against donald trump today. we have the four battleground states that we have put out, fred, and we see that all four of them within three points. anything you see in the polling over the last 24 hours or so that you think is the most notable? >> no. i think the closest in these battleground states should be of concern for the clinton campaign. but, you know, in these polls
they break them out by likely voters and registered voters. >> even in the states that would normally regularly go republican? >> well, you know, look, i think you have nevada, ohio, she's ahead in these states. she's doing better with registered voters and likely voters. >> but arizona, new hampshire. >> right. the fact the race is close in all these states, donald trump basically has to win every single battleground state to make this a competitive election electoral college. i think that is a hard trick for him to pull off. >> catherine, 56% of president obama's supporters said they were very enthusiastic at this point in the race last time. this time just 46% of trump supporters say they're very enthusiastic, just 33% of clinton's supporters say they're very enthusiastic. and for all that we know about how high-tech targeting voters
has been, it eventually all comes down to what we've known all along and that is getting out the vote. what are those enthusiasm numbers tell you about the volatility of polls and frankly the unpredictability of turnout? >> one thing i think it shows, people aren't as loyal to parties as they used to be. i think we're seeing that reflected in particularly unpopular candidates in this cycle. but it's also just true that people don't get enthusiastic because the party they've always belonged to tells them to get enthusiastic. and when we see the kind of back and forth and frankly very charged language from both candidates about each other's supporters, i'm a little bit sympathetic to these voters who are saying i wish i had something better. >> so what would you expect to see, anne, as we head into this new week and approaching that first debate which so many people think is going to be as closely watched as the super bowl and as important as we've ever seen a debate in a presidential cycle.
what are you looking for this week? >> well, i think a couple things are quite likely. tomorrow, hillary clinton is headed to the west coast for what had been planned as one full day of fund raising tomorrow followed by a couple of other days of combined fund raising and campaign appearances. i expect her campaign will want her to be visible and kind of seen being out there doing regular campaign things and looking healthy tomorrow. so although we have no word of it yet specifically, i wouldn't be at all surprised to see a little change in her schedule or at least to see her come back and talk to the reporters traveling with her on her plane. she'll be in los angeles on tuesday doing some fund raising, doing some campaigning. she's giving a speech there, which is part of what the campaign had hoped to be a pivot toward talking about some policy issues in a more personal light. this one is supposed to be on what the campaign calls the inclusive economy, which by
their definition means an economy that works for everybody but which is also par tis pa toir economy in which everybody sort of collectively pulls together. that's what they say is clinton's vision for how to repair the middle class. she'll also be on "ellen." i would also expect to hear from donald trump the way we have not heard from him today. >> let me ask you quickly, catherine, because we're out of time, but there's one more poll numbering, just 36% of registered voters think trump is qualified to be president. is that something that you can turn around in a matter of less than two months? >> it's hard to imagine. again, i think what we're looking at is people wishing they had better alternatives. i think those numbers often don't reflect a specific analysis about trump's qualifications so much as general unease with the candidate. we're also of course seeing not only people identifying more as
independents, also more third party voters, we won't see the third party candidates in the debates that are coming up, so i think on some level we'll see people forced to choose between unqualified and unappealing or however else you want to frame the two candidates. >> kathrine, anne, fred, thanks to all of you. you'll all be back later in this hour. we'll hear from you shortly. thank you. the commander in chief paying respects today honoring lives lost at the pentagon on 9/11. his words as america marks 15 years since those life altering attacks, next. ♪ [monster noises] ♪ take on any road with intuitive all-wheel drive. the nissan rogue, murano and pathfinder now get 0% apr for 72 months, plus $500 bonus cash.
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now from the white house. he was at the pentagon that day. and as always, of course, mick, this anniversary is a time to remember those lost, but also inevitably time to take stock on the war on terror and now we're dealing with a threat didn't even exist obviously 15 years ago and that is isis. and i wonder how the president addressed what is the lingering unease across this country about the threat of terror. >> well, the president made it clear as do many u.s. military, intel and counterterrorism officials here in washington, d.c., that the kind of massive threat that we saw on 9/11 is very unlikely today. there have been so many protective measures put into place. but they say it has been replaced by more insidious threat from the likes of isis, for example, and the lone wolf, the president specifically mentioned san bernardino, california, where lone wolf operatives presumably encouraged
by isis there in the middle east conducted that massive shooting there. and they themselves were eventually killed. but the president also had quite a bit of optimism left in his speech, after all it's the last time he will address the american people on the anniversary of that fateful day on 9/11. and he talked about the strength and resilience of the american people and their will and their capability and their desire to defeat any threat against them. and he was confident that despite the threats, they aren't going away any time soon, that the american people would be able to meet those threats and ultimately defeat them. >> and as we look forward, we also of course look back. and i'd like to ask you, mik, about that day. because i remember so vividly your reporting, and you talked about feeling and hearing something before we really knew what happened at the pentagon. and i remember thinking, oh, god, no. take us back to your experience
that day. >> well, immediately when i saw the hole in the side of the world trade center and there were talks about maybe this is an accident, i looked at that and i thought no way. it was such a crystal clear blue day, as you remember, that a plane could accidentally fly into the world trade center, one of the towers. and i started making calls to the nse here at the white house, pentagon officials, to cia officials. and did not get a single answer to any of those calls. and i knew instinctively that this was a terrorist attack. and then of course when the second plane flew into the building, there was no doubt about it. people at the time could only speculate that it had to be al qaeda because it was so well planned and so well carried out. as a matter of fact, one official in the e ring of the pentagon told me this is so well planned and executed that it has to be al qaeda. and if i were you, i would stay off the e ring the rest of the
day because we're next. 20 minutes later flight 77 flew into the pentagon killing 125 people inside the pentagon. hours later i saw that same official. he said i didn't know. it was just a gut instinct. he had no idea that what he had predicted would actually come to pass. but it was clear within hours the u.s. military, the u.s. intelligence agencies, they were up to speed and doing whatever they could to do to react. and within weeks, as you know, the u.s. launched its war against al qaeda in afghanistan. >> nbc's jim miklaszewski at the white house for us today. good to see you, jim. thank you. >> okay, you too. and next, just hours before cease-fire brokered by the u.s. and russia is set to take effect in syria, both sides in this ongoing civil war not backing off. if anything it appears they're beefing up. the latest after a break.
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one day before a cease-fire is set to begin in syria, there is deadly fighting there. syrian government forces and rebel fighters appear to be trying to strengthen their positions ahead of that cease-fire announced yesterday by the u.s. and russia. for more on this i want to bring in lucy kavanof in london for us. >> hey, chris, most of the fighting has been concentrated in aleppo province in a north part of the country. and we're really talking about air strikes here, close to 100 people killed, the most intense shelling in idlib city where there was a vegetable market struck. at least 13 children reportedly among the dead. now obviously this is not a good start to the cease-fire. what the deal is supposed to do, and it's supposed to work in stages, is to basically get the two sides or the different factions to stop the fighting long enough to allow much-needed humanitarian aid to flow into those blockaded parts of syria,
especially aleppo city. if that truce holds up for seven days, and this is a big if, then we're expecting a period of military cooperation between the u.s. and russia. a lot of hesitation here, but they will be supposedly targeting extremists, meaning the groups they consider to be part of al qaeda and isis without hitting the more moderate opposition. obviously, chris, as you can imagine a lot of mistrust, a lot of skepticism that this deal will work. it does have the endorsement of assad's government and its allies, russia, iran, hezbollah in lebanon, that is important. but as far as the opposition goes, look, they have strong reservations. the leader of at least one u.s.-backed rebel faction causing this offer a, quote, trap. and frankly for good reason. the last cease-fire back in february unravelled almost straight away. opposition leaders are saying that they are prepared to honor the cease-fire, but look, they doubt that the regime will do the same. in fact, this very evening they wrote a letter to the obama administration saying that they're very concerned that parts of the deal, especially a
clause that supposedly says the syrian government would be barred -- would not, pardon me, be barred from flying for nine days after the cease-fire, that means there's simply no trust there if that clause indeed is true what kind of a cease-fire could there in fact be, this is what they're raising concerns about. this is why there's so much skepticism about this deal, chris. >> and yet so much pressure brought to bear particularly after the world was moved by the picture of the little boy put in the ambulance in aleppo, one of the many victims, children of the fighting there. talk a little bit briefly about the human toll that continues to climb in aleppo and elsewhere in syria. >> well, absolutely. look, this is a bloody conflict that is now five years in the running at a cost of nearly half a million syrian lives, displacing more than half of the population. these are huge numbers. we're talking about here. and the attacks this weekend we've seen, there's incredibly grim activist footage coming out showing children as you say suffering the brunt of this
conflict. just this weekend a little girl being brought to a hospital, rescue workers trying to resuscitate a boy, medical facilities as you know targets of this war, which again raises the issue of the mistrust. when there has been so much bloodshed, so much brutality on both sides, on all sides, it's very hard to see how people can come to the table and really make this work, chris. >> nbc's lucy kafanov in london. >> hillary clinton's incident at today's 9/11 ceremony has dominated the headlines, but the democratic candidate also another controversy, referring to donald trump supporters being called basket of. we'll talk about it next. it's easy to love your laxative...
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about donald trump's supporters. a comment that is getting heated response from the trump campaign, and others. back with me fred yang, anne gearan and catherine. anne, let me start with you. she first off apologizes but then doubles down on this idea about the people who have been to many of the rallies, in support of donald trump, net positive, net negative or too soon to know? >> well, it's probably too soon to know, but clearly she knew instantly that she had committed a gaffe. what she said was a more frank more colorful version of something that she actually says quite often, but she turns it usually into a positive where she says she understands where some of the trump supporters are coming from. the anxiety, the economic uncertainty they feel and why they may be turning to him as a result. she knew almost instantly here
that she shouldn't have said what she said. she apologized, and they're trying to move on. there's a long history of similar gaffes by other politicians that have had lasting effects, certainly from the clintons perspective they're hoping this one is not the same thing. >> well, in response, as we said an awful lot of people kind of piled on to the deplorables comment. david duke tweeted out a parody of a movie poster showing trump and his high profile supporters as, quote, the deplorables. i want to play how congressman reacted to that. >> david duke, he's deplorable. the white supremacists who go out and say they are supporting donald trump, they are deplorable, anyone based on their religion should not be allowed to this country, they're deplorable. >> kathrine, lasting story or one or two days and it goes away and ultimately did you want have a big impact? >> i think it's likely a lasting story. i mean, the people still reference obama's bitter
clingers with their guns. romney's 47% who consider themselves victims. this could easily fall into that category. i will say though i hope the lasting impact is i'm definitely going to start a punk band and it is going to be called basket of deplorables and you're all welcome to audition. >> fred, in our last 30 seconds, i want to ask you, as a pollster is there a way besides asking a very direct question about this to track the impact? >> well, i mean, i would say you could maybe track it in her positives, her negatives, trump's positives, his negatives, but you know both candidates' negatives are petty high to begin with. i'm thinking bigger scheme of things, this probably will be a blip. the next big moment until the next big moment that happens are the september 26th debates. i think everything up to that is just noise. that will sort of be where mrs. clinton can dispel some of the questions about whether she's up to the job and we'll see what donald trump can do in the biggest stage he's going to face of his candidacy so far.
>> fred yang, anne gearn, katherine, good to see you all. i know you all will be back later on, but that's going to do it for this hour. i'm chris jansing, see you back here at 6:00 eastern for a special edition of msnbc live. up next, "meet the press" with chuck todd. at safelite, we know how busy life can be. these kids were headed to their first dance recital... ...when their windshield got cracked... ...but they couldn't miss the show. so dad went to the new safelite-dot-com. and in just a few clicks, he scheduled a replacement... ...before the girls even took the stage. safelite-dot-com is the fast, easy way to schedule service anywhere in america!
from nbc news in washington, this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. good sunday morning on what is a solemn day of remembrance on this 15th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. this morning a huge american flag was unfurled at the pentagon to note the attack there in lower manhattan. a moment of silence observed at 8:46 a.m. eastern time. that of course marked the moment when the very first plane flight 11 flew into the north tower of the world trade center. almost immediately afterwards families began reading the names. >> lee adler. >> edward