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>> we're grateful every day that you're here. and we're just delighted that you're a part of the family. >> that does it for us for now. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now. >> happy birthday, mike. good morning, mika. good morning to you. i'm stephanie ruhle. we have breaking news this morning. an avalanche of accusations. multiple women coming forward to multiple news outlets alleging that donald trump inappropriately touched them. >> it was a real shock when all of a sudden his hands were all over me. >> at least four women stepped forward overnight, plus even more pageant contestants allege inappropriate behavior. one of them speaks exclusively to nbc news. >> and it was at that time where he turned to me and embraced me and gave me a kiss on the lips. i remember being shocked. >> firing back, donald trump denies all of them. responding on twitter just moments ago.
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amid new reports he plans to double down on accusations against bill clinton. here's the big question. will his skorcorched urlt ed ean get even nastier? plus, the woman at the center of the access hollywood video that started it all. she finally breaks her silence exclusively to nbc. >> donald trump issued an apology for what he described as locker room banter. did you accept his apology? >> we begin today, of course, with this flood of new accusations. all published in the last 15 hours. all of them from women going on the record, accusing donald trump of aggressive sexual behavior, inappropriately touching, kissing, or groping them. i want to walkia through the timeline here. just before 7:00 p.m. last night, the "new york times" posted an article about two women. a former trump employee rachel crooks who said he kissed her,
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and jessica leeds, who said she met trump on an airport. >> he was like an octopus, like hehad six arms. he was all over the place. when he started putting his hand up my skirt, and that was it. >> then just before 8:00 last night, the palm beach post put up its own article from a different woman, mindy mcgill vuray, who said trump groped her in mar-a-lago, and then another bombshell from people magazine writer natasha stoynoff. she said, quote, i turned around and within seconds, trump was pushing me against a wall and forcing his tongue down my throat. at least seven women in all have alleged inappropriate contact of some kind, and that is not all. a number of women who competed in trump's beauty pageants are also coming forward saying he acted inappropriately, even walking in while these young
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women were changing. take a look. >> he just came strolling right in. there was no second to put a robe on or any sort of clothing or anything. some girls were topless. other girls were naked. >> now, we must make this clear. donald trump and his campaign have strongly denied all of the allegations. some of which are decades old. nbc news has not independently confirmed any of the reports. we're going to break all this down and a lot more. i want to bring in nbc's peter alexander. just moments ago, donald trump put out a tweet, obviously responding to all of this. >> that's recognize. actually, as you were speaking, this came out four minutes ago. we'll put it on the screen so you can see it. this from donald trump himself on his favorite megaphone, which is twitter. he writes, the phony story and the failing "new york times" is a total fabrication written by the same people as last discredited story on woman. watch. this punctuates the point that his campaign was making overnight as the stories were coming out. at least four of them, ten in
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all that came out in one form or another yesterday from women coming forward with their stories of some form of sexual misconduct by donald trump. this is the campaign statement specifically about the "new york times" article saying it was entirely fiction. the campaign statement read for the "new york times" to launch a completely false, coordinated character assassination against mr. trump on a topic like this is dangerous, they write, to reach back decades in an attempt to smear mr. trump trivzializes sexual assault and sets a new low for where the media wants to go in this election. the campaign said this never happened. there is no merit or veracity to this fabricated story. why wasn't this reported at the time? the campaign is vigorously pushing back on all of the allegations, none of which have been independently verified by nbc news. part of what undercuts the argument is they suggest this is from decades ago. why is it just coming out now? at the same time, the campaign is suggesting it may come out
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with new clinton accusers, those accusing bill clinton of similar misconduct in the days ahead. >> fighting fire with fire. i want to continue this conversation. joining me now, my colleague, steve kornacki, with michelle from slate. steve, i want to start with a ayou. these accusations kept coming. what is the cumulative fallout? >> the trump tactic in response, part is to say this is the media out to get him. i think that is going to buy him an awful lot of cover. that has a lot to do with why he's the republican nominee right now. so many things were reported in the republican primary season that i think a lot of us expected, assumed would sink a traditional candidate. a lot of this is there is a large base in the country that trump has tapped into, that if it's coming from the so-called mainstream media, they don't believe it. especially against a candidate they like and especially in the homestretch of a campaign. he may be able to shore up his
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base over this thing. the problem for him is before all this, he was already behind. his base was not going to be enough to win the election. and that challenge of adding to the base, boy, this makes it 1,000 times harderer. >> you're taking polls and numbers and his base, but let's talk about trump supporters, those in the gop. let's talk about mike pence, who just a couple days ago said to me, these were just words. it was just locker room talk. if it's not just locker room talk, if any, not all, if any of these accusations by any of these women are true, what happens to all of these people who have stood by donald? >> well, i think we might see some of the people who deendorsed and then reendorsed redeendorsing. this puts most republicans who even very conservative republicans, the women who support them expect them to treat women with a modicum of respect and dignity. you're already seeing an unprecedented gender gap, and i think you're going to see the clinton campaign increasingly
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trying to yoke trump to other down ballott republicans. and the problem for trump is he's on tape saying that this is what he does. you know, he can't -- first, he says he's had a number of shifting explanations for his misogynist comments. first it was all an act, right inthis is all entertainment. then no, he is even worse in private. then he says that that was just words. now we have people confirming that donald trump has done exactly what donald trump himself said he does. and so it's an impossible box for him to wriggle out of, particularly when he si simultaneously is trying to say he's going to dredge up decades-old allegations against bill clinton while making an argument that decades-old allegations against me are somehow irrelevant and that women who didn't come forward at the time are not to be believed. >> can the clinton campaign get painted in any negative light here?
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donald trump obviously wants to say you're merely diverting attention from wikileaks. this is all you. is there any fallout thaticate happen? again, if this is this guy on tape, he's on tape. >> again, look, i think you talk about the trump base. i think you'll have a lot of sympathy among the trump base to the argument that, hey, this must be from the clinton campaign. they must have been holding this. they must have leaked it to their friends in the media in the homestretch of this campaign. i do think you'll have some res nnls with that argument with the trump base, but get outside of that base, get to the voter whose are going to decide the election, the swing voters, i don't think this looks to most voters today like something that the clinton campaign cooked up. this looks like a news story that came out in logical response to a story in the news last week into something that trump said at the debate sunday night. i think trump can shore up his base with this strategy, but that's not going to win an election. >> donald trump and husband
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campaign are saying these allegations are from years ago. why are these women only coming forward now. but waw neejuanita brodrick, it her 20 years. how does this argument hold water? >> it's completely contradict y contradictory. the trump campaign was hoping to use changing norms about how we talk about sexual assault and blaming the victim. they were going to use that against bill and hillary clinton by saying some of the arguments used to dismiss juanita brodrick's stories in the '90s, that she had changed her story, that she maintained a relationship with the clintons after the alleged assault, that she didn't come forward. that was seen as discrediting her. we now know it takes people a long time to come forward. they don't always process their assaults -- >> especially with a man of significant power. >> right, so they have been trying to pak this argument against bill clinton, and then they are -- at the same time, they're kind of turning on a dime and saying, you know, why should we necessarily believe the victim?
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these accounts are decades old. why didn't they report it? this makes no sense. and so i think that those arguments are so obviously contradictory that on the one hand, the trump campaign doesn't necessarily have a hard time saying contradictory things. at the same time, at the same day, but there's such a tension in the middle of their argument that i think it's going to be hard for them to come out with these two arguments simultaneously. these arguments that we can't believe decades-old allegations against trump and also here are some decades-old allegations against bill clinton. >> steve, what about tensions within the trump campaign? he's obviously taking this scorched earth approach, and he's willing to go down with the ship because come november 9th, he can go build a hotel. he can go back to his day job. for those who choose to stand by him during a time like this, what could be the impact? >> this is the question. good you're in the campaign, the trump campaign or if you're a republican also holder or
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republican candidate right now, if you're out there defending him, if you want to go down the road he wants to go down for the last few weeks of this campaign, your putting your reputation on the line. if you want to have apolitics, something you want have to weigh. taking a stand for trump and echoing what he says the rest of the way in the campaign, if you're a republican politician, those words are going to be with you for the rest of your political career. so you better be ready to defend them for the rest of your career. what michelle is talking about, i mean, you see that agony in terms of the decision making for republicans playing out in public. they are so profoundly, so many of them, are profoundly uncomfortable, and that's putting it mildly, with donald trump, but here's the thing that happens. when they take a step away from him in public, that base, that republican party base that nominated donald trump in the first place, they find out is still with donald trump. >> but steve, do we need to take a closer work at what the word conservative means? if we're talking about the conservative party, the family
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values party, how do you pair that with these type of situations? donald trump just tweeted, i want to put up, moments ago, where do we have it? he tweeted, why didn't the writer of the 12-year-old article in "people" magazine mention the incident in her story? because it did not happen. he is taking this aggressive, aggressive approach, just making it worse. and almost dirtier. why do that when your base is conservative? they want these to go away. >> it depends on what you mean by conservative. i think his base is, you know, patriarchal nationalists. there's a lot of true val family values conservatives, i have been interviewing, particularly very conservative women who are aghast at this, who say this is part of the deal inherent in kind of being a conservative, is that women assume a different role than men, but men promise to protect them. a woman said to me yesterday, a
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major figure in the religious right said to me, you know, these men talk about protecting us all the time. why are they siding with him instead of with us? but i also think that for his base, it's not so much about conservatism, you know, kind of preserving family and institutions as much as it is a very aggressive reaction to the rise of people of color and women in this country. and to them, donald trump represents the kind of power structure roaring back. and the more -- and also, a lot of them don't really see anything wrong with an alpha male throwing a woman up against a wall and trying to kiss her. that's been -- the fact that he bragged about it shows they don't see anything wrong with it. nothing wrong with that. we'll see. mike pence who publicly said he puts his faith first, it's going gee a complicated time for him. thank you both. and you can see steve at
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said on that bus 11 years ago, that you did not actually kiss women without consent or grope women without consent?
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>> i have great respect for women. nobody has more respect for women. >> for the record, you said you never did that. >> frankly, you hear these things. >> have you ever done those things? >> women have respect for me. i will tell you, no, i have not. >> you heard it there, three times anderson cooper asked donald trump with whether he actually engaged in any of the aggressive sexual behavior he bragged about. finally, trump said no. but overnight, four different women wept on the record saying just the opposite, and donald trump just moments ago tweeted about the allegations, calling them a total fabrication. i want to bring in former maryland republican governor bob erlick. he is endorsing donald trump. are you still endorsing donald. >> how are you doing? can i respond to your last guest for a second. the alpha male stuff. the alpha males justify attacking women or sexually abusing women. that's crazy. what kind of sociological
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examp exampleation. i don't know any man who excuses attacking women. that's just silly. the trump rise was not about alpha males. it was about 1 1/2 percent growth in the united states which put a lot of people in this country behind the eight ball. that's what it's about. >> but governor, i would love to talk, and we can, about trade, jobs, and the economy. >> thank you, stephanie. >> that's why you like donald trump, except that is not what donald trump is talking about. donald trump walked up to that debate with juanita brodrick. he continues to bring these things um. he invites this. >> here's my view. the clinton/trump stuff here. the old affairs of bill clinton are not news in this campaign, nor are they relevant. i never said -- i don't think anyone associated with my view thinks they are. the issue with regard to the
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clinton scandals is what hillary clinton did with regard to those women. i think that's far legitimate. as is, by the way, these accusations that come 27 days before an election. >> hold on a second, wait. excuse me, sir. you think it's legitimate, hillary clinton, you think it's legitimate to go after how hillary clinton treated these women? have you ever met a scorned woman? >> how many were there? at some point, do i think -- whether it's fair, how hillary clinton treated women, whether she was in charge of the board room, in charge of degrading women who had affairs with her husband? do i think it's somewhat relevant to the alleged feminist candidate? yeah. do i think bill clinton's affairs are relevant? no. >> hold on a second. hold on a second. >> these reports are fair. you're going to check them out. >> hold on a second. why is it the alleged feminist candidate?
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governor erlick, we're talking about two people running for president of the united states. >> yes, can we talk about those issues, please? >> whether it's one woman who is correct or 15, let's talk about the accusations of donald trump and the actual tapes. >> it's fair, stephanie. i'm naught saying it's not fair. both sides. >> the words donald trump used, you as an american, a husband, a father, are comfortable supporting a man who has used these words? >> no, listen. the apology i think was appropriate. the appaology should have gone further, the contrition should have gone further. am i comfortable with it? no, of course not. you know my history. of course not. >> what happens if the apology isn't true. he said he never did it. >> you know what, stephanie, it's your job to figure it out and report on it, and you will. so if it's not true, you're right. that's real bad for him, real bad for the campaign.
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it's real bad for his supporters. but you're going to check it out, and you're also going to check out the timing of these reports, why they come now, 27 days before an election. you're going to do your job, and i think you will. >> without a doubt. when that happens, if any of these reports are true, what will you do as a supporter of donald trump? >> well, you know, obviously, you're asking me to speculate. i'm not going to speculate on any of that. at some point, steph, and we have been on your show a bunch of times now. at some point, i would like to talk about the issues that are relevant to the american people. from charter schools to the debt to growth to everything we should be talking about, rather than what came out of wikileaks today, what accusations came out yesterday. and obviously -- >> hold on a second. >> i understand it's the news, the modern -- it's 24/7, i get that, but at some point, the issues have to emerge. >> no, sir. i have all the time in the world to talk education reform. >> thank you.
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>> donald trump is not talking about education reform. so what are you talking about? >> at the debates, obviously, at least to this point, some of those issues, some of those conflicts, legitimate conflicts on issues have come out. but i'm hopeful at this third debate that it will be all about issues because the american people deserve it at some point because there are wildly conflicting views on how the country should go forward with regards to the respective candidates. that's what elections are supposed to be about. >> we don't have to wait for a debate. donald trump has rallied every day. >> and hillary clinton has rallies as well. >> at those rallies, hillary clinton is speaking about issues. this week, she talked about tax credits for people with children, and donald trump is going after john mccain and paul ryan and saying if they don't like me, i don't like them. i don't need their votes. at a time when someone is running for president of the united states, hold on, please, someone running for president of the united states saying i don't need paul ryan's vote. i don't want it.
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yet, donald trump has never said i don't want david duke's vote. i don't want alex jones' vote. >> yes, he has. come on, stephanie, he has too. >> he has not. >> let me get to your question, though. if you're talking about what a unique candidate this has been, a unique campaign cycle this has been, you're wrigright. if you're talking about a candidate who has led a movement here, you're right. i started out as a kasich guy. i thought he would be 15 points ahead. got it. but the bottom line is he struck a nerve with a lot of people who have 26-year-olds in the basement, who are not getting ahead, who feel left behind. whose american dream is at risk. >> without a doubt. >> not simply immigration. not simply the other issues that the pundits tend to focus on. it's economic growth and where the next generation of jobs are coming from. i'm hopeful at some point that this campaign will get around to that. >> i agree with you. many people support this
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movement. they want change, and they backed donald trump because of his successful business history. but i ask you, what industries, what jobs is he bringing back here. would it not make more sense instead of having juanita brodrick next to him, have some ceos who are saying with donald trump's paoliciepolicies, i wile to open up a factory and bring jobs back because currently there is not one single fortune 100 ceo backing donald trump when one third backed mitt romney. >> look, i tell you, if you're running against you didn't build that, which is sort of the obama/clinton mantra, and as you know, she parroted those words with the quote, corporations and business, don't you believe they create jobs. that's what we're running against. that sort of progressive nonsense that sort of class warfare nonsense that you see in the last eight years. you saw from bernie sanders, you're seeing it from hillary clinton. we have a plan out there with regard to comprehensive tax
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reform. we all know -- it's by far more than a bipartisan issue. the president of the united states agrees the corporate tax rate should be cut. it really is the key to economic growth. we have a plan. she has a plan. let's clash on it. let's talk about it. what the respective tax rates should be, how to get the economy going, because the american people, whether you're republic or democrat, are not going to stand long-term for 1%, 1.5% growth. >> governor, i welcome that conversation. >> so do i. >> i do hope that mr. trump decides to make that part of his narrative. >> i hope that hillary clinton does as well. >> there you have it. governor, thank you for joining me. >> coming up, new revelations from inside the clinton campaign from that wikileaks hack. were staffers mocking catholics and evangelicals? plus, hitting back, the u.s. fires missiles into yemen after american ships were fired upon. we'll have a live report straight ahead.
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time now for your morning primer, everything you need to know to start your day. we begin with shocking news overnight. four women accusing donald trump of unwanted contact. at least seven women have now come forward. donald trump and his campaign have strongly denied all of the claims. and in the wake of the ongoing scandal at wells fargo, the bank announced embattled ceo john stumpf will retire effective immediatelily. coo tim stone will take over for him. >> a tragic story in boston. two police officers responding to a domestic issue were shot when a man armed with an assault rifle opened fire on him. both officers are in critical condition and the suspect was killed. >> hurricane nicole gaining strength in the atlantic with sustains winds of 130 miles per hour. nicole is now a category-4 storm and is expected to hit the island of bermuda today.
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and what a way to start a career. first overall pick auston matthews scored four goals in his first nhl game for the toronto maple leafs, and yes, his beaming parents were there to watch and celebrate every minute of this. this is every hockey parent's dream. beautiful. >> all right, to a story a lot les beautiful. we'll take you to the u.s. military that fired missiles at rebel-held states in yemen today. the strieg followed two incidents this week in which missiles were fired to a u.s. navy ship from a rebel controlled area of the country. hans is live with more. tell us more about these attacks and do they show any risk here that the u.s. is getting sucked into yemen's civil war? >> what officials here are saying is it's a one-off attack, that this is the president ordered it as a singular attack. it was a surgical strike. these were three strikes and we can confirm these strikes were
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succsful. three tomahawk cruise missile strikes hit radar installations inside yemen. from areas controlled by the houthis and the areas where they were sending cruise missiles out to destroyers. if you're going to huh rosa united states destroyer, expect a response. now the question becomes, what's the diplomatic fallout and what are the next steps potentially in a very difficult part of the world. >> thanks, hans. >> we want to go back to politics now. donald trump blasting hillary clinton's campaign for allegedly slamming catholics. the accusation refers to a purported e-mail exchange that is part of the latest document dump by wikileaks. the e-mails were allegedly taken from the personal account of clinton's campaign chairman. nbc's kristen welker is live in las vegas. i want to start across the board with these e-mails, how bad they are. obviously, a lot of attention is being given to donald trump right now.
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i personally am very focused on it, but these wikileaks, how bad are these e-mails? we can't forget that they're out there. >> it's the drip, drip, drip. it continues to overshadow her campaign. at this point, no major bombshell, but it has been raising thorny questions for the clinton campaign. you point out the latest incident e-mail that is getting a lot of attention. it was written by jennifer palmieri, the current communications director, written back in 2011, though, steph. so way before this campaign was launched. it was when palmieri worked for a group called american progress. she was talking to a colleague about an article written about catholics. she wrote their rich friends wouldn't understand if they became evangelicals. now, we had the opportunity to ask her about this on clinton's campaign plane yesterday. she said, look, she doesn't even remember this e-mail. important to point out none of these e-mails has been authenticated by nbc news, but listen to what she said had to say. >> i'm a catholic.
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i don't recognize that e-mail. that we saw. and this whole effort is led by the russians. >> now, intelligence officials have said they do believe that the russians are behind these hacks and that they're trying to interfere with the u.s. election. but bottom line, steph, this is something that continues to create a problem for the clinton campaign in the homestretch of this race. >> it keeps leaking. kristen welker in vegas. up next, she was the actress at the center of that leaked access hollywood video we all saw friday. now, adrienne zuker is talking exclusively to nbc news. >> do you find those to be offensive comments? >> they are offensive comments for women, period, yes. yes, they are. e waterspout. down came the rain... ...and clogged the gutter system creating a leak in the roof. luckily the spider recently had geico help him
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i'm so overwhelmed by this today. the woman that trump made crude
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comments about in that 2005 leaked tape, she's speaking out to nbc news. soap opera star arianne zucker spoke to janet shamlian. >> she had a lot to say, including she was surprised by the existence of this audio recording. but stephanie, she was not shocked by the language. aeroeann zucker played nicole walker on days of our lives. >> the only way we'll make amends is if i never see you again. >> but her fictional character, she says, has never been through anything like this. >> it feels very surreal to be in it. i'm not quate sure if i believe it yet. >> it's zucker donald trump was referring to when he said this to billy bush on an "access hollywood" bus in 2005. >> tic tacs in case i start kissing her. >> "access hollywood" is owned by nbc universal. >> when you're a star, they let
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you do it. you can do anything. >> whatever you wants. >> grap them by the [ bleep ]. >> those crude comments made moments before meeting her. >> how are you, hi? >> nice to meet you. >> the recording became public last week, instantly going viral, and throwing trump's campaign into crisis. >> do you find those to be offensive comments. >> they are offensive comments for women, period, yes. yes. they are. >> as the mother of a 6-year-old daughter, she had concerns. but working in the entertainment industry, she says, the language didn't surprise her. >> you weren't shocked? >> not with that type of personality. i wasn't shocked. which is probably why it doesn't mean a lot to me. >> zucker says she hasn't been able to turn on the television the past few days without seeing the slidvideo. at the time, trump was visiting the set of her soap opera for a cameo. >> walker, walker, please, nicole. >> ms. walker, i'm a happily married man. if it's a job you're looking for, i have all the apprentices
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i need. >> donald trump issued an apology for what he described as locker room banter. do you accept his apology? >> that was an interesting apology. >> the actress says she's looking forward now, hoping to lead by example. >> i want to teach my daughter that if she ever gets put in a situation like mommy is right now, that she will hold her head high as well, and if she's learned anything from it, how can she share this with other women or young girls or whoever is around her. >> zucker says she has not heard from the trump campaign or donald trump. she's not expecting to, and about that apology. she put it to me this way. i told my own 6-year-old daughter you should not apologize unless you mean it. >> thanks, janet. >> coming up, another nbc exclusive. the beauty queen who says donald trump kissed her inappropriately. she finally opens up. her story next.
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>> you think of sending your little daughter out there -- sorry. with men like that, that think like that. and i'm sorry. i get emotional. an opening night on broadway is kind of magic.
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it was at that time where he turned to me and embraced me and gave me a kiss on the lips. and i remember being shocked and because i would have just thought to shake somebody pafs hand, but that was his first response with me. and i remember, i was very young, and i remember feeling kind of embarrassed, like wanting to turn and wipe my mouth, like what just happened? >> that was former miss utah speaking exclusively to nbc news about her alleged encounter with trump in 1997. truch trump is responding with, quote, i don't know anything about her. i don't even kno who she is. she claims this took place in a public area. i have never kissed her. i emphatically deny this ridiculous claim. now, we're also getting another
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first-person account from "people" magazine writer natasha stoynoff. i want to read you what she alleged happened in december of 2005 when she went to mar-a-lago to interview trump. and before i do, i actually heard about this story on my way home from dinner last night, and i, like many of you, was dealing with my own life and kind of desensitiz desensitized, thought it's another woman, he got too close, he hugged her, then i got home and read it, and that's why i want to read this to you now. let's go. we walked into the room alone. and trump shut the door behind us. i turned around and within seconds, he was pushing me against the wall and forcing his tongue down my throat. now, i'm a tall girl. a strapping girl who grew up with two giant brothers. i even once sparred with mike tyson. it takes a lot to push me. but trump is much bigger. a looming figure, and he was fast. taking me by surprise and throwing me off balance. i was stunned. and i was grateful when trump's
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longtime butler burst into the room a minute later. as i tried to unpin myself. i was still in shock and remain speechless as we both followed him to an outdoor patio overlooking the grounds. in those few minutes alone with trump, my self-esteem crashed to zero. how could the actions of one man make me feel so utterly violated? i tried to act normal. i had a job to do. and i was determined to do it. i sat in a chair that faced trump, who waited for his wife on a love seat. the butler left us, and i fumbled with my tape recorder. trump smiled and leaned forward. you know, we're going to have an affair, don't you, he declared. he also referenced the infamous cover of the new york post during his affair with marla maples. you remember, he said, best sex i ever had. an hour later, i was back at my hotel. my shock began to wear off, and it was replaced by anger. i kept thinking, why did i --
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why didn't i slug him. why couldn't i say anything? like many women, i was ashamed. and i blamed myself for his transgression. i minimized it. it's not like he raped me. i doubted my recollection and my reaction. i was afraid that a famous, powerful, wealthy man could and would discredit and destroy me, especially if i got his coveted "people" feature killed. i just wanted to forget it ever happened, i insisted. she ended her piece with this. and just for the record, mr. trump, i did not consent. i know that was long, but there are so -- there's so much gun slingi slinging, so much dirt out there right now, i wanted to share with you her words because it definitely makes you take pause. joining me now is "today" show legal analyst lisa bloom. that's a pretty powerful account. legally speaking, does this account make any difference that these allegations are seven
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years old? some, they're decades old. >> well, the statute of limitations has run for anything seven years old or decades old. i'm so glad you read it because i think it is important to hear the words from the actual accusers themselves. i represent jill hath, who sued donald trump for sexual harassment in 1997. her account has been out there for 19 years. in the last few months, she's been speaking out about what she says he did to her, which is similar to all these stories. pushing her up against a wall, putting his hand up her skirt, forcibly kissing her. really, she felt vindicated when the "access hollywood" tape came out where he's essentially confessing it. we have a man where a lifetime history of misogyny, about a dozen accusers now, and a taped confession. i don't know what more we need before we start believing women. >> some of these women are coming forward now, a massive pile of them, and donald trump
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and his campaign want to say this is a coordinated attack. whether it is or not, what do you make of it? >> it's clearly not. i dopt think the palm beach post is coordinating with the "new york times" and my client who brought her claim back in 1997. this is what i see having represented sexual harassment victims for 30 years. women put up with a lot. we put up a lot of groping, a lot of harassment, but every woman has her breaking point. and for my client, jill, it's when she was publicly called a liar by donald trump. she had kept quiet about her allegations during the presidential campaign. she didn't want to talk about it. the case was settled 19 years ago. she put it behind her. when she was called a liar by him and when ivanka came out and said my dad is not a groper, that was her breaking point. for the new round of women woo came out yesterday, what they say is when donald trump said in the debate that he had not groped women, after the third hiem he was asked by anderson cooper and he said, no, i did not, for them, that was their
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breaking point. they said now he's just lying and 240u i have to tell my story. that's very credible and it's consistent with what i have seen representing women for 30 years. >> lisa, thank you so much for sharing your thoughts this morning. i appreciate it. >> thank you. coming up, i want you to look at these two ti"time" magazine covers. one from the summer and one just out now. total meltdown. "times" deputy editor with new reporting from inside the came. . . and i know a thing or two about trading. so i trade with e*trade, where true traders trade on a trademarked trade platform that has all the... get off the computer traitor! i won't. (cannon sound) mobility is very important to me. that's why i use e*trade mobile. it's on all my mobile devices, so it suits my mobile lifestyle and it keeps my investments fully mobile... even when i'm on the move. sign up at and get up to six hundred dollars.
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from bad to worse. here's how "time" magazine is characterizing the state of the trump campaign. in august, "times" cover said, total meltdown. joining me now, editor for "times." i can't pronounce your first name. radika jones. take me inside the campaign. what's going on? >> it's hard to clear the clutter of the news at the last 12 hours but in doing this
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follow-up cover tour august meltdown cover, we wanted to focus attention on the last week of news in this election and the trump campaign in particular. let's not forget, quite aside from everything that's happened last night and this morning that the trump campaign is also effectively declared war on the gop. he's fighting a two-front war against his opponent, hillary clinton, and against the establishment of his party and that's only going to get worse. and it's not going to end on election day. among a lot of the reporting is trump's senior advisor saying, we will go low because low turnout is helpful to us. this is what we can expect over the next few days and there's a battle going on for the soul of the republican party and that will continue into next year and possibly the next presidential term. >> what else did you learn inside this campaign to be a decent amount of opposing views even within that group? >> i think we've seen that play out in public.
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there are a lot of republicans who have felt that they've gone along with trump thinking he could turn things around. now we'reless th less than four from the election and people have to think, politicians are thinking about whether it will look better or worse for them to have stood by their nominee or not when the next round of elections comes around. that's a very peculiar place for a party to be considering its nominee. >> when they say we go low, how much lower can they go? we're in scorched earth territory. >> i agree with you. maybe we won't have to go any lower. it's hard to say. but i think that question of turnout is fascinating because we have polling in this issue showing at least half of the electorate is, quote, disappointed with how this election has gone. the question of whether hillary clinton, who as everyone has been reporting, has fairly high unfavorable for a democratic
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candidate for president. whether she can actually build enthusiasm over the next few weeks, i think, will make a big difference in perhaps not the result of the election but the the turnout and whether it's a big difference between the two candidates. >> the risk, i guess, if you turn people from disappointed to disgusted, maybe they do turn out and vote. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> radihka. sorry about that. gentlemen, i appreciate your time. much more of the trump campaign's barrage of unwanted contacts. and gloria is representing some of the trump accusers.
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that wraps us up for what was a pretty heavy hour today. i'm stephanie ruhle. see you tomorrow at 9:00. right now, here's craig melvin. >> stephanie, thank you very much. right now, those new and disturbing allegations of unwanted advances and sexual
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aggression. donald trump insisted those recently lewd comments about women were just words. locker room talk, as he described it. the gop claimed over and over he never acted on any of the alaskas lialask actions like kissing or groping without consent and several women coming forward saying he's lying, allegations going back decades. >> it was a real shock when all of the sudden, his hands were all over me. >> embraced me and gave me a kiss on the lips and i remember being shocked. >> nbc news is not independently confirming these accusations and trump is denying all allegations and lashing out on twitter last hour. a source inside the campaign telling us they're now preparing, quote, big lawsuits against the outlets publishing what they call lies. let's get right to nbc's hallie jackson covering the trump ca


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