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been explicit about what he cares about and believes in. it's not in my hands now. it's up to them. >> what about long-term with the electoral college? >> long-term with the electoral college, the electoral college is a vestage, a carry over from an earlier vision of how our federal government was going to work that put a lot of premium on states and it used to be that the senate was not elected directly. it was through state legislatures and it's the same type of thinking that gives wyoming two senators with about a half million people and california with 33 million get the same two. there are structures in our
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political system as envisioned by the founders. sometimes they give a disadvantage to democrats, but the truth of the matter is if we are speaking to what the american people care about, typically, the popular vote and the electoral college vote will align. i guess part of my overall message here as i leave for the holidays is that if we look for one explanation or one silver bullet or one easy fix for our politics, then we are probably going to be disappointed.
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there are just a lot of factors in what's happened not just over the last few months, but over the last decade that has made both politics and governance more challenging. i think everybody raised legitimate questions and concerns. i do hope that we all just take some time, take a breath and this is what i am going to advise democrats to just reflect a little bit more about how can we get to a place where people are focused on working together based on at least some common set of facts. how can we have a conversation about policy that doesn't
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demonize each other. how can we channel what i think is the basic decency and goodness of the american people so it reflects itself in our politics as opposed to it being so polarized and so nasty that in some cases you had voters and elected officials who have more confidence and faith in a foreign adversary than their neighbors. and those go to bigger issues. how is itty that woo have officials who think that michelle obama's healthy eating initiative and school nutrition
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program is a greater threat to democracy than our government going after the press if they are issuing a story they don't like. that's an issue that i think we have to wrestle with. and we will. people have asked me how you feel about the election and i say look, this is a clarifying moment. it's a useful reminder that voting counts, politics counts, what the president-elect is going to be doing is going to be very different than what i was doing and i think people can compare and contrast and make judgments about what worked for
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the american people. i hope that building up the progress we made that what the president-elect is proposing works. what i can say with confidence is what we have done works. that i can prove. i can show you where we were in 2008 and i can show you where we are now. you can't argue that we are not better off. we are. for that, i thank the american people and more importantly i thank -- not more importantly, as importantly. i was going to say josh earnest. for that i thank the american people and the men and women in uniform who serve.
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i haven't gotten to the point where i have been overly sentimental, but my last christmas party photo line, they are pretty long. right at the end of the line, the president's marine corps band comes in. those who have been performing and i take a picture with them. it was the last time i was going to take a picture with my marine corps band after an event. i got a little choked up. it was in front of marines so i had to tamp it down. it was one small example of all the people who have contributed to our success. i'm responsible for where we screwed up. successes are widely shared with all the amazing people in the administration. mele kelikimaka.
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>> we just witnessed a record 1:26, the longest news conference of his eight-year presidency, but more than that, we witnessed a glimpse into the mind and the mind set and the mood and the battle fatigue, quite frankly, of this president. a fascinating session with reporters. not that many questions. under a dozen of them. a number of headlines, first and foremost given our current conversation, it is very likely to the point of certainty that russia attacked a presidential election. reached into this country electronically and attacked a presidential election. more than that and bordering on the philosophical, the president seemed to be asking the question again and again, how did we get
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to this? how did we get to a country where a foreign adversary, spy master, a man john mccain calls a butcher and a murderer is now okay with about a third of republican voters? the survey the president cited. 37% say that they are okay with vladimir putin. how did we get there? how did we get to a country where idea logically and in our media and elsewhere, day is night, up is down and black is white. the president talked about maybe we could agree on a common set of facts and maybe we could believe again in the institutions. andrea mitchell watched this event and the president's answers with great interest. andrea. >> well, i thought it was extraordinary. he has no doubt. he has no doubt about the intelligence about russia.
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when asked about donald trump, his successor, he indicated there are things they cannot make public, but they believe the intelligence agencies are correct and he is going to try to persuade him of that and the relationship they have been that he made certain suggestions and an interesting question about china from mark from the "new york times." this was the first chance to ask him about the taiwan phone call. does it make a difference. he said this has worked and he hope that is the next president will be intentional about his foreign policy. in other words, he should not do things on twitter and making things in a more careful way perhaps. he is very careful to preserve that conversation. i know in particular they talked about cuba and the people in the white house feel they were persuasive about the business advantages of doing what they did to cuba and not reversing
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that for instance. he is trying to keep that on track. i think there is a certain amount of moelancholy talking about the marine band and tearing up and not wanting to show that in front of the marines. a lot of news was made. also very interestingly, a gentle criticism of hillary clinton who today for the first time is blaming russia as well as jim comey for her loss and he said the democrats while he doesn't feel like she was treated fairly, democrats have to take a look at not being looked at politically correct and latte drinking and he has to go where people feel they are not feeling listened to. $1.2 billion was spent and she did not go to enough battle ground states and did not listen to the people there. >> interesting. we noted that as well here.
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thanks. the news conference for those who have been with us the whole time was interrupted briefly by someone who fell ill in the back of the press room. our own chris jansing could be seen over that person and helping to deal with it as the president called for dr. jackson, the white house physician to come in the side door. chris jansing joins us again. just one of the interesting occurrences from this event. without revealing private information, did everything work out all right? >> yeah, as far as we know she is being seen by the white house doctor. you heard the president call for her. she told the doctor she is 66 years old and not someone who is as we know a hard pass holder. she is with an organization that regularly has someone here on a day to day basis covering the
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president. she did faint twice. i saw her on the ground after she fainted the first time and we tried to help her into a chair and she fainted again. she is being well taken care of by the president's physician. he stopped the press conference here. you saw him as andrea pointed out a more intro expectative president about what is happening here and what is coming to an end. they say he has talked more about this because you have a series of lasts. this is potentially his last press conference. he will be going to hawaii for his last christmas break as president and working on his farewell address with his speech writer. the last time he will make a major address like that. i thought it was while not unexpected, very pointed the way he began the press conference with what was essentially a run
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down of what he believes he accomplished. you heard him absolutely having no second thoughts about the way he handled this russian hacking situation. he set out to make sure there were never any questions about the integrity of this, defending essentially his decisions in syria. a president was nearing the end of his term here and is going off to put down more thoughts that he will share with the american people. >> chris jansing in the white house briefing room where we witnessed the longest ever news conference by this president. our political director chuck todd has been watching and listening with us in washington. if you love movies and or politics, it is sometimes impossible to watch these things and not hear the words of aaron sorkin about the hard work of the presidency and the real work of the presidency and the view from the cheap seats. his words, not the president's.
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this was a kind of fascinating walk through the mind and the presidency of barack obama among other things. >> it was. look, he definitely had one plan that i thought going in. that was to somehow deescalate the partisanship around the cia finding about putin and now the fbi's concurrence with the conclusion. it was almost as if he confirmed not quite, but saying not much happens in russia without the knowledge of putin. he leaned in and a bit defensive about the idea. where was the sense of urgency. did the fbi and cia act with a sense of urgency.
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john po defta who is also close to president obama doesn't believe that. the president chose not to go there at all. it seems as if his goal was to preserve the integrity of this process as best he could in trying to get as much partisanship out of this discussion as possible. i just don't know how effective it was. i have to tell you this. i don't know if the message that was just sent to putin just now, it was almost you might not be hearing from us any time soon or it may not be as rough as you think. it struck me on this front as odd. >> we will talk to an expert about that in a moment. that was there portion to your previous point where he said to the collective press corps, you guys covered this every day in realtime. this was an ongoing attack and
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by broadcasting stolen goods, the details from john podesta's details, his recipe, you covered this in realtime. >> right. i think it was almost simultaneously saying the public knew there was hacking going on and by the way, the media you covered the content of it and not the larger issue. look, there was a lot of media criticism in that entire press conference at different times. he seemed to criticize the media a little bit when it came to the coverage of hot spots. that's what presidents do left and right many times e spervelly at an end of the term press conference. again, i get what he was trying to do. donald trump is going to be very happy with the line that barack
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obama walked on today. i wouldn't be surprised if we hear from donald trump in a more positive note on that. i think he has a couple more thank you rallies. i will be curious about the reaction and gentle and not so subtle criticism of his strategy. >> the host of what i'm guessing will be a more interesting version of "meet the press" daily given all the goings on. thank you very much. at our table here, we have a nob of experts among the white house correspondents for the day. joy reed remains with us. malcolmenance, you were busy and i'm not going to ask any
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questions. what was your assessment listening to his version? >> this is not exciting. i got a more subtle interpretation. they have news that the fbi has come to the same assessment. the fbi is in the know of everything and their sources and methods and how they came to the conclusion has definitive proof that russia has done it. the president is not going to do that. that is not his job unless he decided he was going to declassify everything.
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on the other hand, it's going to take 30 days and he doesn't want to start something he can't finish. we we can start and finish in ten seconds. >> and be home for dinner. >> before the watch shift is done. you can launch cyber operations and cyber systems to the point where it can be completed. they may think they are clear and free and it probably won't be state to state. it will be state to the olegarks of the actors involved in this. you can take their money secretly and the fsg and still damage them. operations can be complete as far as we know. it's not going to be as dramatic as the movies.
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>> is there a tie to donald trump in any of this? >> to donald trump and the hacking? i can tell you as an author, i can tell you in the book plot to hack america, my indication was on the basis of statements being made by surrogates and people friend lely to donald trump and donald trump on the 27th of july released hillary clinton's hacked e-mails. somewhere along the lines those discussions happened. we had indications that an aide of his may have promised things. we don't know right now. roger stone said he was in direct contact to the person who did not know russia was
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assisting him, he made clear that he was very aware that russia was doing this. in so doing that, that means there was an awareness and it's a fair wind. if it does get to that and there is intelligence that people had their fingers in russia or were cooperating with russia the foreign ministry and the agencies. that is a completely different world. >> joy and hans, a brief time out. pete williams is in the washington bureau. the justice correspondent wants in on the conversation. pete? >> two things. number one, none of the intelligence officials i talked to said they see any involvement of trump or his surrogates in the cyber attacks. on the larger point of whether there has been a disconnect between the fbi and the cia and they are together, what i have
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been told for the past several days is there never was a disagreement. there is widespread unanimity that russia was behind the cyber attacks and as for the goal, what the fbi has been saying is they didn't undermine the system. there was a number of hedging of bets by the russians that if they can see donald trump get elected, that would be a good thing. that was never the motive and that's the cia's view as well. this hacking started before he was even the nominee. >> when we are talking about the
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inner workings of the kremlin or surrounding the kremlin and the possible motives or how they affected it, most likely it's human intelligence or cyber intelligence and you won't top the go near discussing. that may have come closer to having them inside of russia. collection operations on this scale turned into active measures which is russia's term for an operation designed to have a political or military effect. he would launch this for chaos and fun. he would want a tangible effect. if he couldn't get that effect first, the secondary effects would be more than enough to do that. putting a man who was completely
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sympathetic to you on every level into the white house is a tangible effect that makes him sign off on a special mission of this sort. >> what do you think the tangible effect of the press conference will be? >> that's a good question. you do hear a lot of criticism of the media, but the thing that strikes me is the centrality of the fbi here. the fbi has been severely compromised by the episode and it's hard to understand how jim comey continues to operate. we heard that the fbi did not have the full assessment and access to the intelligence yet they cast doubt on the conclusion that the cia had come to to the point that the trump campaign was able to use the fbi's stated doubts that russia was seeking to help donald trump to give the cloudiness that the trump campaign used. to say they don't agree. the intelligence services are not on the same page. you have jim comey coming out and inserting himself into the
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campaign 11 days before with something he also know didn't have the full information on, the content of the e-mails on the laptop of huma abedin's estranged husband. he didn't have a breath of knowledge on that, but felt free to make statements on it that impacted the campaign. the thing that frightens me is the institutions that were supposed to protect the american people are compromised, one being the fbi. do americans trust the integrity and independence and the political independence of the director right now and trust that now somebody who comes out after the damage has been done and after the russian operation has been successful to then sign on to the conclusions that the cia had come to? i don't think that saves the fbi's integrity and the president was judicious in the way he spoke today. that's who he is. one other point i will make, i am looking at social media and
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people are angry with the president for saying what he would do to vladimir putin. to malcolm's point, he is not going to do that. if there is an operation under way to retaliate, we don't want to announce that in a press conference. you wouldn't. this president's job, part of the job of president is to protect and defend the institutions of the federal government and the integrity of the institutions that hold up the united states. the president can't come out and throw bombs at vladimir putin in an open press conference or attacking the next president of the united states in a press conference. that is not what he is supposed to do. he did what he should. the subtle cues i got were that yes, russia did it and there will be a response to it and yes the institutions did fail. there was criticism of hillary clinton, but the overall impact of what he did today was for me to say he will do his best to protect the institutions and i think the institutions are very much damaged by this. >> sorry for the hurt feelings
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that the president didn't share the package of response with the american people. someone is familiar with the briefing room and what did you think of today? >> this is a president that is preparing a response to the russia hacking. i would remind everyone in the table that this is a president that played nine holes of golf and they are like ducks and can paddle below. that said, this is clearly a president that made a distinction. the distinction between the hacking. and i heard a president that was both defensive and confident that they said that was successful. if we think this in and the
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what's the response going to be? he is not going to telegraph that. he is not going to indicate that. he has been pretty good. >> hugh hewitt has been a frequent contributor along the way in the campaign season. your take away? >> i heard andrea say melancholy. you began the commends by saying you thought battle fatigue. i think the president is exhausted and i think his first response to the question about syria and was a meandering away from it. he said the world will not be fooled, but i go back to something the admiral said yesterday as the running mate is. the biggest mistake of his
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presidency is the rhett line. when he threatens the response just talked about, you have to wonder why would the russians be afraid? he threatened enormous consequences if assad uses chemical weapons. aleppo is a grave yard. i fault the president and he honored the military three times. i salute him for that. i think presidents get appreciative of the military towards the end of their time in office as they are throughout. he was asked directly did the russian hack affect the election out come? he did not answer. i think that's an enormous whiff on his part, a delegitimization. i wish he answered it differently. there was no argument to be made that the russians gave the election to donald trump. they screwed around with it as
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they had been since it was at the elbow of fd, r and robert han and the walker family. and the long tortured history of russian espionage. the president teed that up like he did in hawaii. >> thanks for sending people to wikipedia. is there a simple answer that did russia swing the election? >> you know, i would like to say that i'm going to leave it to the history books, but i never pulled a punch like that. this swung the election. it swung the election if it changed the mind of one voter, if you see the photograph that they have of the word cloud on media coverage of hillary clinton versus donald trump, 50% of the box was one word. e-mails.
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right? media coverage on the e-mails viewed wikipedia as 100% accurate, 100% worthy of unlimited coverage. i will like to see the dollariment of coverage that turned into. that from july 25th to the day of the election, wikipedia e-mails, podesta's name. not wikipedia, wikileaks. i'm sorry. all of that was done because russian intelligence took every document at the dnc and when they couldn't get to hillary clinton's e-mails proper, they went to the aides around her and hacked them and released the e-mails she had written or responded to from them. that's an intelligence operation. that has impact and there is battle damage related to that and it may have been definitive in some way putting donald trump into the white house. >> nicole wallace, our frequent
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contributor and the communications director in the 43 white house has been watching and is with us by phone. nicole, have at it in order of importance what you took away from today. >> i hate starting this way, but i disagree with just about everything my friend just said. i watched this whole thing and i had the benefit he had of listening to everyone's commendarcommen commentary. i looked like he was unburdened by any personal politics. my husband and i watched it together with our 5-year-old running around in the background so i may have missed something, but i didn't miss what we saw from the president was the truth and nothing but the truth. his answer on syria was so moving, so frank in the limits of the american presidency. i am not a fan of his syria policy, but i was a fan of the frankness he brought to the quagmyre that is aleppo today.
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i was not a cheerleader either times that he ran for president, but i admired he tried to shame the republican party for being so craftily political when it comes to putin. he said we are taking a country that is small and doesn't innovatate and cites nothing and turn them into a super power by being divided among ourselves. that criticism is there and should be levelled at republicans who are cowering when being asked a frank question. should russians have the ability to meddle in our elections? you can believe donald trump would be president anyway and say but i will never let the russians interfere with our political system. i thought his comments about politics, this is something i heard privately from white house aides have been the losses his parties have suffered on his watch. what he called the inability and the limits of the
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transferability of his political popularity to hillary clinton in this cycle. i heard a president who was owning the mistakes and hoping to get credit for the successes and seemed to feel sorry for the consequences of his actions in syria. and determined to still take action. i talked to the white house senior adviser and help for parents of the press conference. he is very angry at russia and will take action before he leaves office. on syria, he finds it heart breaking and tried to convey that today. >> to your point on russia, he said they are not smarter, they are weaker. they don't innovate. they are known for producing and exporting oil and gas and arms. he talked about this perception and as i said when he finished talking, how is it that we have gotten to a country where in the
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survey he cited 37% of republican voters are okay with vladimir putin. >> i will just tell you in part and maybe this is not the right thing to do, but there is another news network that meads some sort of alliance with assange and putin and the tactics of putin's russia. there was propaganda that republicans accepted and it's the strength at any cost to be attracted to. i'm not a fan of that message and putin's tactics, but i think this is a real moment of choosing. we talk every night about the man and the moment. john mccain and this moment with trump and putin and russia. i think that if obama wants to continue to sort of have his voice heard on questions about
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putin's russia, he may find strange and surprising allies in john mccain, lindsey graham and marco rubio. i would add that marco rubio said the same thing obama said today about stolen material in the midst of the heated campaign. marco rubio who was running for a competitive seat in florida warned republicans not to use the podesta e-mails. he said we might be next. russia may hack us next. i asked kellyanne conway in the final weeks of the campaign if she was comfortable using the stolen e-mails and put it on wikileaks and she said yes, we are. this is something i think the president started unwinding and i hope former presidents find themselves sometimes very reluctant to wade into domestic politics. i hope keeping an eye on putin and russia is one of them.
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generosity is its oyou can handle being a mom for half an hour. i'm in all the way. is that understood? i don't know what she's up to, but it's not good. can't the world be my noodles and butter? get your mind out of the gutter. mornings are for coffee and contemplation. that was a really profound observation. you got a mean case of the detox blues. don't start a war you know you're going to lose. finally you can now find all of netflix in the same place as all your other entertainment. on xfinity x1. there was a survey some of you saw where -- now this is just one poll, but a credible source, 37% of republican voters approve of putin.
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over a third of republican voters approve of vladimir putin, the former head of the kgb. ronald reagan would roll over in his grave. >> it is a point we have heard made and a fair question to ask. richard engle happens to be in moscow and richard, how did that sound from point of view as an american in russia? >> well, frankly a lot of r russians have been following this debate and looking forward to the end of the obama administration. they say under this administration relations have only gotten worse with russia and they think they can do better under the next administration of trump. so far the response so consistent & they have been
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denying and lampooning and to your question about the reagan comment, it does in a way feel like we are back in those days and the cold war dynamic has returned to a degree. russia is talking about establishing the sphere of influence and wants to do what it can to reassert its control over post soviet space and feels that president-elect trump is in a position to make a grand bargain between the u.s. and russia that would allow moscow to establish that. in a certain sense it feels like the cold war dynamics are back here. >> richard engle, hans nichols is here with us, sometimes it feels like we are back in those days unless you remember what the president just cited and
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that is surveying showing a measurable percentage of americans who have warm feelings for the man mccain calls a murderer and a butcher. vladimir putin. >> let's do the numbers. in july of 2014, it's 10% of republicans have favorable views of vladimir putin. it's up to 27%. in november it's up to 37%. that's the president's point about ronald reagan. it's not just the number, but the speed with which it changed. >> huy hewitt is watching and listening. take this on. you noticed it too. we have talked about it. the warming and the
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normalization. you have seen them and talked about them going out of their way and bending over backwards to give vladimir putin of all people the benefit of the doubt. >> i wish we could go back 50 months and play the tape about mitt romney saying that the 80s called and wanted their foreign policy back. those of us who served reagan and nixon had been warning about the russians for 35 years. marco rubio is right and i said throughout the campaign that wikileaks were the russian leaks. when you look in his eyes, i see the colonel. whatever the surveys show, the foreign policy of the republican party has been very steely eyed.
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i am welcoming the democrats, but what i don't approve of is the washing of history of the fact that the crimea was in ukraine four years ago. the little black man did not did not happen and this happened on president obama's watch and after he made an empty threat about a red line. donald trump assembled a strong team. they are calling out the russians for what they are, but i wish they asked pop not whether or not donald trump's taiwan call forced them to steal our under water sub, but he's going to hawaii to play golf. not what i consider to be a strong response. >> listening with us. steve is here at the table. two points come out of hugh hewitt. a duty bound to repeat whether
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republican or democrat. they travel with the president no matter where they go. number two, somebody has to own the 37% figure or there abouts and people can disagree about the size of it. >> there is a lot to them. the president has a point. when you look at the republican party and the rhetoric from republicans, there has been a significant and quick change. not all republicans. you have people like john mccain out there and people like hugh hewitt out there. he is right. the president is not reckoning with how the politics of change come to the democratic party and president obama himself over the last four years. four years ago in the 2012 campaign, mitt romney said russia was the number one geopolitical foe. the response was not it's more like number three or four, but the very notion of an adverse aerial relationship was a relic of the 1980s.
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his exact line was the 1980s are calling asking for their foreign policy back. the cold war has been over for 20 years. in 2012, some of the things that happened since then had not happened. the invasion of the ukraine. putin innovated georgia and had been implicated in the murder of multiple journalists. they allowed him to come back to power. there were lots of indications that before crimea, that took us back to the cold war. the response from barack obama and democrats, you had democrats and the biggest names saying that mitt romney was out to lunch. he is closing his presidency by invoking the ultimate american cold war your and saying that
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the incoming president ought to be ashamed because the ultimate cold war your would never have done this. he did not grapple with the fact that he and democrats have as well. >> what is the response likely to be from trump tower to any number of the things we watched in this news conference? >> the only response we have seen from trump tower has come from jason miller, his communications director with a link to an article who said president obama admitted failures in the democratic party. talking about this past election and losing seats and losing the white house. further than that, president obama went above and beyond and bent over backwards, if you will, to not overtly criticize donald trump. it's the same thing we have been seeing in the transition. it's the same thing we have gotten back from donald trump as well. yesterday he was in hershey, pennsylvania and was trying to
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criticize josh ernest who is president obama's white house spokesman and in doing so, the crowd started booing president obama and he said not boo. he said i don't know if he is talking to president obama and he is not a very good spokesperson. he did not go to o to criticize them. the relationship they built defied expectations in the transition. they have both done what they can in order to keep the relations smooth between them. to make the transition smooth despite the fact that the two differ on so many things as russian hacking being one of them. he has done vailed criticism, but it is notable how measured his words were. he was even measured which was notable when he was talking about twitter. a reporter asked him if he melt like donald trump's twitter was
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appropriate. he said he is just still going through the transition. he doesn't have his team in place and doesn't have white house spokes people around him quite yet because he was not inaugurated. he gave him leeway with that saying he believes he will grow when he gets into the white house. for me the big take away in addition all of the stuff you guys have been talking about for the past hour is the lengths that the president went to not to criticize donald trump and despite the fact that he has broken so remarkably with the intelligence and insulted the intelligence community when it comes to the russian hacking investigation. >> a lot of people found that a generous way for the president to deal with the tweets coming out of trump tower, say nothing of the rest of it. thanks. we want to talk about the changes we have seen in years's time and the man who is departing as president.
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lynn sweet is with us once again, the veteran bureau chief at the chicago sun times who goes back to illinois with the president. what did you see of note? it's how he wanted to remind people that russia is a bad actor. no matter what you think of trump, he tied this so much to the brutal murdering going on in syria. when he lamented sadly on how he could not transfer his popularity and bring his coalition with him for a mid-term victory. it's a pretty interesting and significant take away as he himself looks at his own
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presidency. >> among his domestic regrets, it was clear from his tone and tenor and how he clearly has processed it thus far. the democratic party has been crushed at the local and state level and congressional. the senate and presidency. he leads the democratic party. what was interesting today is that he did say that he believes in the ideals that he talked about in that famous 2004 speech that vaulted him into the white house where he talked about there is no red state or blue state. he said that's still true. in a sense he is playing a longer game.
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he doesn't want to antagonize trump and he wants to turn the attention of the public to russia. remember as we go forward they are the bad guys. >> lynn has been patient standing out on a cold night. considered a southern town. very, very much. another break and we will be back after this. (chuckle) ( ♪ ) come on, dad.
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i have been writing about this issue and every time i post on twitter, i get trump supporters questioning the premises and saying prove it. when the soviet union shot down an airliner in 1983, they denied it happened. the u.s. went to the united nations and released intelligence and recorded intercepts and cockpit voice recorders to prove the case. there is a question about whether they will have to do that to convince a certain body of the american public of what they are saying is true.
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>> we heard the need for that and questioning the institutions and the need for a common set of facts. we don't have that right now as we have something of an alternative reality bubbling up. same question. >> we talked about this and the line the president returned to about the speech that made them famous. there are no red or blue states and he repeated it. >> we will see if that has a lasting. he didn't validate their concern that is the election was stolen and he didn't say let's move on. he took a pass.
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that could have lasting impact. >> joy reed has a meeting to go to after this. your summation? >> because the institutions have been so compromised, particularly the fbi and there is a disconnect between the fbi and the cia and who did what, he will have to release much more information than they normally would. the incoming administration is so full of putinites, whatever response will happen to what russia did and the belief that among most of the intelligence is that he is going have to respond. he has got to respond. >> our thanks to our panel here in new york and correspond epts from here to moscow and washington and beyond for what has been an extraordinary day. what felt like a record breaker was the longest news conference of his presidency. to quote eleanor roosevelt, these are no ordinary times. that will do it for our coverage
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from new york. now we give way to "meet the press" daily with chuck todd. >> if it's friday, president obama steps up to the white house briefing room podium for -- a defeated president obamas above the part an noise. was it effective? >> what made us vulnerable to these kinds of potential ma nip ulzs. >> america is left with unanswered questions on intelligence. >> our goal continues to be to send a clear message to russia. >> if you thought what was happening in north carolina was weird, you saint seen nothing yet. >> this is partisan power grab that goes far beyond political power. >> this is m trtp daily and it


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