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its intelligence. >> he said the cia has lost entire capability of its cyber offense and defense. let's wait to see whether or not he's going to reveal anything more. remember yesterday we heard from wikileaks this idea they've only released 1% of what they have. hallie, i can tell you u.s. officials telling us what they have released, some of it is authentic and right now the investigation, the search for what went wrong inside the cia, was it a contractor, was it a mole, that is under way. we need to listen to what julian assange has to say. sometimes he makes claims that aren't always supported by the facts but let's listen to what he has to say about how serious and more serious this is going to get. >> we're going to let you listen in to that assanges conference. listen, you heard hans talking about the scramble about who is behind this.
>> it is going to be tough. the cia will do an investigation, they need to see the source of the leak, whether it came from within the agency, whether it came from a contractor working on cyber issues and it could be with the help or influence of foreign intelligence hacking or getting into some sort of arsenal of material through a cyber attack. it seems the leads are focused on an internal. it seems it was likely to be from an internal source. the cia has not confirmed nor denied these documents are authentic. but the fact that an investigation is under way would lead to the assumption there is some authentic material in the leak. >> as someone who is on the inside, tear rarara, what is yo telling you? is this an insider? >> i think we need to let the investigation run its course. i think this is completely troublesome, it undermines counterintelligence and terrorism and gives our potential enemies information
that could be used against us. >> you talk about the potential implications of this, the cia as you rightly noted is not commenting on the youauthentici of it. they also equip our adversaries with tools and information to do us harm. what is the mood right now from intelligence analysts? how bad is this, if you will? >> it is bad that it gives our adversaries, it gives them information about where we have srn capabili certain capables -- capabilities. if they know certain uses are more listened to, they might avoid it and do face-to-face communication. s it a vicry laugh two days after that big intel dump?
>> i don't think there's another way to understand it. the timing of this leak is especially devastating for morale in the intelligence community. donald trump tweeted accusing the former president of illegal wiretapping and now wikileaks has released that trove of documents that seem to underscore that. they think people in the white house who are suspicious will use these leaks to further damage relationships between the white house and folks who do intel. >> get your crystal ball out, the relationship between the white house and intelligence community already on shaky ground. what happens next? >> they're going to have to work together and find a way to trust each other. this is a reminder that intelligence is not generally a political issue, it's a national security issue with the highest stakes possible. you can bet there are hard feelings between the two and hard feelings on trump's side
about what the intelligence community has been leaking about the russia situation. this is an issue in which national security is at stake and seeing whether they trust each other enough on this whole thing is going to be a really big question. >> i want to find out if hans nichols has been listening in at the pentagon. i want to go to tara. wikileaks said it released 1% of what it has. do you buy it? and how troubling is it if that is true? >> i do potential buy they have more information and how important what they have is we'll see and we'll see what else comes out. i will note i had read this morning some of this was not of the highest level of classification. i read it in some press reporting this morning that most of it was of the secret to top secret level and not compartmentalized. it's unclear if they have more ghly classified information. it could be so of this information was obtained through one source.
it could be they have addition an information from another reason. it's unclear if the information is from many same people or more people. >> two intelligence sources are saying they are looking into russia with this, because of the hacking of the 2016 election. how troubling could that be potentially or what does that say about the u.s. relationship with moscow? >> it's going to make it a lot harder if that's true for donald trump to that you relations to make them better. this has been a big part of his cam pan a campaign and he's talked about it now if he's president. beside this election, this is now making its way into trump's own presidency. how can president trump still say he wants to have good relationships with russia when they're releasing all this information that's going to create all kind of problems with the united states. i think it makes it that much more difficult. >> and i don't know if you had a chance to be listening in to the assange press conference here but i want to get your take on
what betsy characterized as kind of a victory lap for wikileaks after this document dump, potentially one of the worst breaches of classified information in history. >> look, julian assange is you af a -- awful. when you saw what happened in yemen, the white house said we conducted that raid to collect intelligence. these tools are so that you don't have to send navy seals into yemen. when you compromise those tools -- look, russia is one thing but isis and al qaeda are certainly going to read this. when you compromise those ca capabilities, you now can't use them. and you may have to send people into bad places. this has real impact on our capabilities and it's a dangerous one. >> howo you think that t
president will react? so far we have seen the white house simply say they cannot authenticate this, condemning any disclosures that put americans at risk. >> you know, i would say, look, it's one thing to say i personally believe that wikileaks is nothing more than a laundry mat for russia. can you say wikileaks as a stand alone should not be allowed to have journalistic coverage -- protection i should say. you talk to investigators and law enforcement, they're very reluctant to do anything with julian assange because he falls under sort of journalistic protection. we have to take a look at this and say that shouldn't be -- that shouldn't be extended to them. the white house has the opportunity here to put wikileaks on some sort of watch list that would defund them essentially. there are things they can do here and staying silent shouldn't be one of them.
>> i want to go to hans nichols over at the white house. what are the headlines? >> this seems to be a vick industry lap by julian assange but nothing new in terms of revalling what they have hacked, what they have gotten from the cia. interesting, hallie, he called upon tech companies to work with wikileaks. this is a call to action saying that these companies like microsoft, like apple, they need to work with wikileaks to protect the consumer, talking about the fourth geneva convention how before you had the red cross protecting civilians. now you need to have tech companies and he included wikileaks within that basket, protecting consumers. to me the interesting thing today is going to be, a, the response from the administration, what the white house says, what the cia says but also, halle, what do tech companies say is this are they going to pledge to work with wk
lea wikileaks? are they going to say they're working with the administration? >> betsy aaron, hang out. we have much more coming up. any moment now chuck assumer is expected to speak about the health care hurdle cleared overnight. we're going to listen in now. senator schumer
approaching the microphone it looks like. >> hello, everybody. good morning. thank you for coming. we've arranged for some nice weather, even though there are cloudy days ahead if health care passes. if trumpcare passes. okay. so i want to thank everyone for coming. my colleagues, our great senator from michigan is joining us, thank you, chris van holland. and we're going to -- they're going to be leading the fight in their states, as we all are, to
ensure americans get more affordable care, not less. i want to thank our guest speakers, who you'll hear from in a few minutes. these are the people who will be hurt by trumpcare and millions more like them. >> yes. millions. >> and that's why we're here now. what is trumpcare? trumpcare simply put is a mess that gives you less for more and trumpcare doesn't discriminate against which americans it hurts. are you a millennial? trumpcare means higher costs and less coverage. are you a senior? trumpcare means higher costs and less coverage? raw wom are you a woman? >> trumpcare means higher costs and less coverage. are you or someone in your family living with a disability?
tru trumare means higher cost and less coverage. trumpcare is a tax break for the rich and not health care motivation. it's to take people whose income is above $250,000 and give them an average tax break, to take the top .01% and give them a tax break of $200,000 while making these people pay more. it horrible. president trump has talked about helping working america, but the plan he has embraced, trumpcare, helps the rich and hurts the average american, and that's not surprising given all the other things his administration is doing. his administration has developed a pattern, health care is part of that. they talk like populists but act like those helping wealthy special interests time after time after time.
look, no one likes this bill. hospitals, doctors, governors, conservatives, liberals, nonpartisan groups and most of all the people who will no longer have affordable health care. so we democrats are here today to tell our republican friends turn back, drop this irresponsible plan, stop this effort to repeal and we'll work with you to improve the affordable care act, but trumpcare is a loser for just about all of america, unless you're in the top 1%. now i'm going to turn it over to senator king because he has to go to a hearing. >> thank you. i thought a lot about how to characterize
it. by the way, it's not only democrats, it's independents, too, chuck. >> thank you, angus. >> a way to characterize this bill because we've heard it being discussed so much in the last few days.
i think probably the easiest way to characterize it is repeal and wreck. repeal and wreck. it basically undermines the premise of the affordable care act, which is to provide health insurance access, meaningful access and you have to be careful when you hear that word access because lots of times my colleagues when they use that word they mean you can buy it but they don't talk about whether it's affordable and whether you can afford to buy it. if you were designing a bill to hammer my state, it would be this bill. a citizen in the northern part of my state called aroostook county up near the canadian border, a 60-year-old would see their support for their health care coverage diminish 70%. the average cut across my entire state for a 60-year-old is 48%,
almost 50% in terms of support for their ability to purchase health insurance. what this really is is shift and shaft. shift the cost from the highest income individuals to those who can least afford it, particularly seniors. i want to emphasize the real people who are injured the most by this proposal are people between the ages of 50 and 65, those who aren't yet qualified for medicare but who are still forced to participate in the individual insurance market. this is bad law, bad policy, bad economics and bad health care. i believe that we can fix and repair and improve the affordable care act. i've been saying that for four years. and if that's what we want to do, let's set about working on it together instead of bringing
a bill litellyfrom the dark of night with no hearings, no real substantive debate, no hearing from anybody outside and within 48 or 72 hours pass it out of a house committee and take it on to the floor of the united states house of representatives. that's not regular order, that's not transparency, that's not communicating with the american people, that is wrong and it is harmful and this is a bill that i believe deserves to go nowhere and then maybe we can back away and say let's fix it, let's repair it, let's look at the problems of the affordable care act and make them and improve them and build on the fact that 22 million people now have insurance under the affordable care act and more to come and provide decent health care for the people of this country.
>> that is senator angus king. we are listening to him speak at a news conference along with senate minority leader chuck schumer as well. senator schumer attempting to frame the new house republican bill to repeal and replace the affordable care act as trumpcare. let's go to chris jansing at the white house. we know the president has been meeting with skeptical republicans about this and offering compromises on things like, for example, pulling back medicaid expansion to 2018 -- to freezing of it rather. do you think this is a successful strategy? what's the white house's plans next? >> i just talk to a senior aide who told me they think they are making some progress but also acknowledged to me that there are, and this is a quote, some substantive and fill sop caphil issues they are not going to be able to bridge the divide on. come on guys, this is the
message from the president, we need to sell this as a repeal, we need to go out there and sell this bill. and the second part of it was that, frankly, whatever didn't get addressed now is going to be addressed largely in phases two and three, even while acknowledging that not everybody is going to be happy with how this goes. most of the peep who talked about it who were inside that meeting came out and said they felt that the president heard what they had to say. whether or not the president actually learned anything, whether he has really adjusted his thinking in any substantive way or is looking at very key ways specifically in which they can make changes, they're not at that phase yet, but the white house is feeling pretty good about these meetings. the other interesting thing is there does seem to be a little bit of a shift morning about the strategy for the president selling this bill. we sort of got an indication yesterday he was going to be really out there on the road, going out and trying to sell
this in individual districts. he's still going to do that. there had been talk he was going to go this weekend, instead it going to be vice president pence who is going to kentucky, a state, by the way, that has been very successfully integrating obamacare and now they are saying while he will go out on the road perhaps as early as next week that it may be he's going to doing more of these meetings, more of the one-on-ones, with members of the house, key interest groups. some of the key interest groups, aarp, hospital groups, nursing groups, all of whom can be influential on capitol hill. >> i want to look at who exactly is opposing this bill, not just conservatives, but medical associations, like the american medical association, aarp, and
you can see the list up there. i'm joined now by michael steele, a republican strategist. whose fault is this? it's not just conservatives. doctor, fairly unanimously aren't happy with this. whose fault is it -- >> you've got to look at the republican leadership and the calculation they've made. bottom line is this is not lost on anyone. you've had at least six years to get to this point. it's not like all of a should obamacare came on the table last year and now you're dealing with it. you had the rupp way to set this up. so when you roll it out, you would think in listening to the speaker say we vetted this for 18 months and had all these meetings and everybody was behind it and for it, if that's the case, why are so many republicans, particularly conservatives upset about it? they've got an internal strategy problem. the white house is adding pressure on top of that because the president is like i'm not going to go ahead and sell this on my own, you guys have got to
get in line, too, i thought you had this worked out by now. there's going to be this added influence on this process. here's the bottom line rub, though. republicans cannot afford to make the same mistakes democrats did. they're already starting to do it. they're going to rush this thing through and they're not going to give people like rand paul and others and cotton the chance to look it through and to deal with whatever anxieties they have. >> i'm going to make you guys all hang out on this beautiful day in washington with me on set. when we come back, more on the health care call it fallout that's happening right now in washington plus the other day's big headlines. so how old do you want to be when you retire? uhh, i was thinking around 70. alright, and before that? you mean after that?
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>> and giving a grade to u.s. infrastructure. you wouldn't laike it if it was your kid bringing this grade home, a d. plus how dangerous this is for folks using these road and bridges. during his address to congress, president trump restated his desire for a $1 trillion investment into infrastructure spending. a group representing dj.c.-base restaurants announced a new lawsuit against president trump's d.c. hotel. the suit filed again the trump international hotel is being brought for what they call unfair competition, claiming lobbyists and foreign governments flock to the trump hotel and eating and drinking establishments. they're looking for a court order to remove what they believe is unfair competition, mostly by forcing the president to divest.
joining me, msnbc chief legal correspondent ari melber. what do they want to do? >> this is a restaurant saying they have been personally hurt and harmed by the special benefits, unfair competition, that the trump d.c. hotel has and the links to him as president, as he has not divested in its ownership. this is all about local business. this is different than some of the suits we've heard about on the travel ban or the so-called emoluments, the idea that the president benefits from foreign ma governments. this is a local case relying on local competition. they're basically asking a judge to come in and say it unfair for one company to be so linked and benefitted by the incumbent
president if he won't divest. thus he should either divest or close down. this is really important for a third and final reason, hallie, and that is these people in the eyes of the law probably do have a good argument that they have skin in the game. the emoluments suit that was filed by people in the public community, they weren't really involved. these people can say, hey, we run a business, we're hurt. we're going to keep a close eye on where the case against. >> any response yet from the president's lawyers or lawyers representing the trump hotel? >> we are seeking that. we don't have a new response yet. in fairness and accuracy from the trump side, what they have said before, they say he does not have a legal or constitutional obligation under any text to walk away from it, that he has taken his own voluntary steps to do certain
limiting appropriates, which you and i have reported on but at the broader level they're saying there isn't a law that requires him to walk away and that means everyone has to play and compete in business, business can be tough, there's all sorts of different advances. those are the type of arguments we would expect them to continue to make. >> ari melber, thank you very much. we want to take a live look just down the road down pennsylvania avenue, a live look at the energy and commerce committee doing what they call markup and what other people call making any changes. and we saw the ways and means pass this out essentially. that brings me to the question want to ask michael steele, who is joining me with our political panel. michael, what do you say to the headline that republicans are so signed about this bill, so excited, they passed it out of committee at 4:30 this morning
with nobody watching. >> that's the way washington works. the script is reversed, listening to chuck schumer a little while ago, sounded exactly like republicans did in 2009 and 2010, watching what republicans are doing now, exactly what democrats did in 2009 and 2010 to get the affordable care act passed. they had the momentum. what they realize, though, is they can't allow the ground swell against this to form sechl ent around their feet. so they got to move quickly and push it out. they're doing this without even knowing what the c.b.o. score is. they have to no idea what this going to cost. it irresponsible republicanism, as far as i'm concerned. you don't go out and spend money when you don't know how much it is, where it's coming from or who it's going to benefit or hurt. they got pressure from the white house, they got internal pressure from the speaker, who wants to get this done as the
pressure from conservatives rank and file across the country and on the hill, freedom caucus, et cetera, begins to rise. they abowill get it done but it will be a hot mess in the process. >> you know how we feel about hot processes. >> yeah, we do. >> democrats are hell bent on making sure this thing doesn't go through, right? and would they actually work with the freedom caucus folks and say let's come up with a compromise? i don't kn >> i don't know that they would compromise with the freedom caucus. saw democrats on the hill celebrating and rooting for rand paul. i think the likelihood on a policy front that republican leadership like paul ryan does more work to compromise with schumer than they do with the freedom caucus sets the groundwork for disaster it's going to be really hard. this legislation is far from a lock in the house. next week it goes to the house
budget committee. they can only lose three republicans votes on the budget committee. on that committee, a solid no and one on the fence. they lose two more and it's toast. >> i want to dive into the weeds here. i want to play you a little something from congressman dent, what he had to say earlier today here on this network. >> i have concerns about the medicaid expansion i just heard overnight there's some talk about rolling back that window from 2020 to 2018. that would not be helpful in my view. and i get back to this issue of the tax credits. will there be enough money approach described to help those people buy insurance? >> we have sources telling us that conservative groups like heritage that had come to the white house were talking about, h hey, rolling it back to 2018. you have somebody like charlie dent saying that's not going to
be helpful. >> i think this is a great example about how this is a bill that is going to please nobody. you have people from the freedom caucus saying the exact opposite of what charlie dent is saying. they're saying in our proposal when president obama was in charge, we didn't support the medicaid expansion, why would we put forward bill that has this in it? you have middle of the road guys like charlie dent and say we should just leave the whole thing in tact and not scale it back. if you're ulryan, how d you get the middle of the road guys and the freedom caucus -- >> it's also members who are really upset about the tax changes, where people who doesn't even pay taxes would get
a tax assistance to help pay for this. it not something i see paul ryan being able to rewrite and compromise on. >> and the reality is it's not a full repeal of obamacare. there are a lot the elements of obamacare that are not even tinkered with, just left in place. you have the idea going forward that you're going to expand coverage for certain folks. you still haven't answered the question, what about the people who came in? do they get dropped? and who is going to go to that mom and say i'm taking your health care away from your kid? certainly president trump doesn't want to. >> but he's going to have to. call it ryan care to give it space. >> that's not something to take lightly. that's a very strategic
political point because the white house is creating the distance between the president and this bill. as much as they're all embracing, we're all for one, going together, the reality is the white house is calling this through breitbart is calling this ryan care. this isn't trumpcare. when you hear kellyanne conway go on air and talk about who would ever want to tie the president's name to a health care bill? i'm like, dude, you just did that for the last six years. that's the reality. they understand the impact it can have if this goes south and pt president's name is on it. >> michael steele, what do you think of our view? >> it's great. it hot and sexy. >> you're leaving now. >> reportedly linked to russian intelligence, a co atowardi intelligence, according to what politico says.
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saying he's an enemy of the united states and ally of russia. you new potential ambassador to russia, john huntsman. he would still have to be confirmed by the senate in this job. it wasn't too long ago that the president mocked huntsman calling him weak and a lightweight. huntsman takes over at a very sensitive time, guys, the fbi's and congressional interference in the campaign. and paul manafort, this associate according to politico is suspected of having ties to russian intelligence. wee we're going to bring in michael
crowley and aaron blake. i would think about what the white house would say about this reporting and that is that this is somebody who is barely even tied to the president directly. it's somebody who is connected to paul manafort. why should this matter? walk us through what you guys are reporting. >> of course paul manafort was a very influence figure in trump's world, managed his campaign for a substantial period of time, got him the nomination, and was basically forced out of the campaign after stories about his connections to russia, among other things, started cascading out and got too uncomfortable for the trump campaign to bear. paul manafort has connections to oligarchs in ukraine who are
very connected to putin. trump is tried to a man who is very closely tied to putin and about which donald trump has said confusing, contradictory and out of the mainstream things. it just one of many examples of people around trump having ties to russia. when you say what exactly does it mean, we don't know. but it just kind of weird and we feel like we don't know all the facts. >> what does the white house say about all of this? >> i think they're saying it's guilt by association, and paul manafort is saying this guy constantine kalimnik, i believe he was a russian military translator, i believe that's an established fact. manafort is saying it's ridiculous to say he's intelligence, he's a professional who cares a lot about ukraine and rumors and
inouye end openuendos are getti control. the white house is saying there's a mccarthyite -- the larger picture shows a pattern of a lot of people around trump having connections to these people who have connections to the kremlin and we're not getting straight, consistent full stories out of them. that's just a little weird and obably wras fuher investigation. >>on huntsman, ambassador to russia potentially, what does he bring to the table here at this kind of sensitive time ? >> absolutely. one of the most sensitive jobs. the good news is he's a seasoned diplomat, he was u.s. ambassador to chinese and got good reviews in that job, knows a lot about china. his record on russia is a little bit of a blank slate. he hasn't said much about russia and the russia hawks aren't freaking out.
there were people that could have been sent out that would roll over but he's also not a hardliner. you have a professional whose specific record on russia is unclear and we'll have to wait and see. >> michael crowley, thank you much joining us from politico. bets s betsy, blank slate? >> over the election, he called for trump to drop out of the election because of the access hollywood tape. there's goia colorful history. >> it's a pick that are going to hearten a lot of people who are skeptical of trump's connection to russia. they're going to see him as a guy at least who is standing
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hi and welcome back. the president huddling with different factions of the conservative brain trust, basically trying to sell this new health care bill, the plan to repeal and replace obamacare. you're hearing a lot from now just budget director mick mulvaney, whom the white house this morning according to a source is calling their secret weapon but from health and human services secretary tom price. here's what he had to say. >> we didn't know until this week there was going to be three phasing. >> we talked about them but we didn't separate them into three phases. so the messaging might not have been absolutely piercing to folks but we talked about it in the totality of it.
>> so a little bit of concern about the messaging there from secretary price. i'm joined by the huffington post's ryan grim, betsy aaron still hanging out. talk about fault lines inside the gop. what's the strategy? how could the president use this to his advantage? >> the strategy for paul ryan here is telling the freedom cau caucus this is a take it or leave it thing, saying this is basically obamacare-lite. it's tax credits to subsidized health care replacing tax credits to subsidized health care. how do you get that through? you get donald trump to pressure house freedom caucus messages, implicitly threaten primaries, you get people like mick
mulvaney say you have to be with the president or politically you're dead. >> is it a carrot or a stick? >> this is a stick. >> the white house is saying it's actually olive branches. >> olive branches hurt, too, if you swing them hard enough. >> why is steve bannon a wild card in these negotiations, as you have said? >> he's called himself an economic nationalist. there as no economic nationalist under which you annihilate coverage for tens of millions of people. if you look at the way breitbart is covering this, they're calling it ryan care, obamacare 2.0. >> betsy, talking about pressure on the freedom caucus, new ads we can report on fox news and some of these conservative districts, where these skeptical lawmakers live. is that going to be effective doing the p.r. press? >> it's possible they could use
ads to make members really uncomfortable. >> or the consistentituents? >> of course. we also know conservative groups are comfortable hitting back. remember during the government shut down in 2013 which was in obamacare, heritage action was comfortable going after republicans and encouraging their constituents to call them up and say, hey, what's going on here? i think it's plausible this could show up on both sides. >> senator cotton is reiterating his opposition this morning on twitter saying too fast, pause, start again. is there going to be one provision, one sticking point? is there something in the next few weeks, few months we're going to see them narrow in on as a place where they're going to fight the hardest. >> i don't know that there's within thing that's going to get these freedom caucus members to come around. they don't like the cadillac tax being continued, they don't like the medicaid expansion, they don't like this is government
being involved in health care in the first place, which is what led them to oppose this bill. i ink it's one thing to posture and to try to get something out of this package eventually but the way these republicans are opposing this bill is almost the totality of it. how can they go from this place and what they're saying now to eventually supporting something that doesn't have the medicaid expansion, doesn't have the cadillac tax. i'm not sure how you get there and justify it as a freedom caucus member. >> one thing is clear. we're going to be talking about this for a long i'm. betsy and aaron are back after this break. or fill a big order or expand your office and take on whatever comes next. find out how american express cards and services can help prepare you for growth at open.com.
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we are back on our perch overlooking the white house behind me. in about 15 minutes we're about to see president trump meeting with small community bankers. it will be the first time we will see the president in this type of setting, what they call a pool spray. in the last few seconds -- we havesenior adviser to donald trump's presidential campaign. betsy and aaron are still with us. let me start with something that happened earlier this morning with senator mitch mcconnell. he at a breakfast and asked about a key promise you were very familiar, the president's pledge to build that border wall and have mexico pay for it. here's what senator mcconnell had to say. >> i think the president picked
an outstanding person to be in charge of homeland security and my suspicion is that we will take his advice. >> do you believe that mexico will pay for it? >> no. >> pretty definitive there. is mexico going to pay for the wall? ah, no. is he right? >> i think president trump has been very consistent in everything that he said and all the promises -- >> but he can't force mexico to pay for this wall. >> he said he's going to find ways to make sure that wall is paid for and that we're not bearing the brunt of that wall. >> even if mitch mcconnell doesn't think it can happen? is that not significant to you? >> of course it significant but the president, as we've seen so far, is very forceful in making sure that what he campaigned on, what the platform that he put out there, that he's going to find aay to make sure that mexico ends up paying for this
wall, whether it's immediately or over the longer term remains to be seen. >> this is spoken like a very talented campaign aide. to your credit, the president hasn't kept all of his campaign promises. one of his key promises on his initial document was he would immediate repeal obama's two executive amnesties. now we're seeing reports that daca is basically going to be the policy going forward indefinitely. i think assuming because the president promised mexico will pay for the wall means it going to happen, maybe, it might, but at this point the indicators are not great. >> i tend to disagree completely. in the sense that president trump ran as the nonpolitician. and when he got here and understood that the mess that he was dealt with, we're seeing it now with the democrats holding up every nomination for political appointees, we're seeing it when every time he tries to put a platform out, the messaging gets kind of misconstrued, particularly the obamacare repeal, he's on the
right track to doing those things and just because it not immediate, perhaps maybe he shouldn't have said immediate during the campaign trail but he sincerely believes and i've seen nothing to indicate that he is not committed to making sure every one of those promises comes true. >> aaron, last word to you. >> we're going to find out if mexico is going to pay for the wall and when the time comes that they don't, this is going to be a promise that was supposed to be taken seriously and not literally. this is how the lawmakers view the promises by trump and this for once is what they actually think. >> thank you for being on the set. thank you for watching as a nor'easter gets ready to roll into the east coast, we'll see where eawe are morrow. i'm hallie jackson. i hope you reach out. i'll reach back. i'll turn it over to ali velshi.
hi, ally. >> hi, hallie. right now, gop health care hurdles. two house committees pulling all nighters as republicans infight and democrats resist. this hour we'll hear from the speaker of the house, paul ryan, on what's next for the legislation. we'll bring that to you live the moment he takes the podium. and this just this morning, julian assange, speaking out about the wikileaks hack with an explosion of new claim as the fbi begins a criminal investigation and the cia scrambles to find the source of those leaks. plus boots on the ground. u.s. maroons -- march eeines ar in syria. i'm ali velshi. we begin with intense pressure on both sides other the