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trail? he's now overseeing the case of this man, a deported dreamer who is suing the federal government, we're diving into that. plus developing this morning, rumblings of a health care compromise, but is it really or is this one also dead on arrival? new details on what's in and what's out, with the best team in the business. they are here in the u.s., and around the world, kristen welker at the white house, kelly kobe bayia in seoul and hans nichols in cairo. first to ali arouzi there on the ground. good morning to you, fill us in. >> reporter: good morning, hallie. there's been little public comment from tehran in the latest developments. the only person who has weighed in so far is foreign minister zarif who led the nuclear negotiations. he tweeted earlier war and u.s. sanctions can't mask its admission of iran's compliance with jcpoa. obliging the u.s. to change course and fulfill its own commitments.
zarif and president rouhani are heavily invested in the success of the nuclear deal. rouhani touted this deal as a panacea for many of iran's problems tying his political fortunes to the success of the deal. if it's in trouble, then he's in trouble. also, secretary tillerson's tough words last night are not going to fare well for the moderate mr. rouhani as he seeks a second term in office in next month's presidential elections. in fact, it's going to be ammunition for hard liners who want to shoot down his chances of re-election. hard liners who have argued he should never have done the deal in the first place. if they get their way, then in iran's next president could be an ultraconseverive not open to talks with the west. but the big question that remains is if america tries to renegotiate the deal, or impose new sanctions, what will iran do? the supreme leader has warned of dire consequences if america violates the terms of the deal. he may think it's more prudent to shut the doors to the country and restart the nuclear program
at full speed. there's also the question of how does the u.s. square this with the p5plus 1, who still endorsed the deal and want it to stay in place. does it leave america out in the cold or can president trump convince them it's best to drop any support for irans? 'a complicated situation and remains shrouded in uncertainty. back to you. >> complicated to say the least, ali arouzi there in tehran. kristen welker at the white house, let's set it up. the president is holding a press conference later on this afternoon with the italian prime minister. he will likely get asked about this and it seems like the big threads are, is he going to flip-flop on the iran deal and what it sanctions? >> reporter: first of all let's look back at what president trump and candidate trump have said about this iran nuclear deal. he has consistently said it's the worst deal ever, as a candidate he said he was going to rip it up on day one. he's also criticized the deal,
hallie, as president during a previous news conference, speaking from the rose garden, but to your broader point, so what does this all mean? what actions is he actually going to take? as you were just discussing with ali arouzi, the administration has said it is reviewing the terms of the deal. so potentially reviewing the possibility of tearing up this deal. what's notable, though, is that secretary tillerson said to congress they believe iran is meeting the terms of the iran deal so at this point in time, no indication that they're going to have any movement on sanctions. however, he also accused iran of propping up terrorism in various different regions, regions from syria, iraq, yemen, and lebanon. this was what secretary tillerson had to say yesterday, this deal represents the same failed approach of the past that brought us to the current eminent threat we face in north korea. so some pretty strong language there, hallie. andrea mitchell asked secretary
tillerson yesterday if. the u.s. pulls out, does that not raise questions about the u.s.'s ability to follow through with other deals that it may hold with nations. >> right. >> reporter: so this is a very thorny issue, and undoubtedly going to be at the forefront today, when the president holds that news conference here at the white house in just a few hours from now, hallie. >> and you will be there, kristen welker, at the north lawn appreciate it. invest vice president pence on the overseas trip in indonesia today and announcing a controversial visit for president trump later this year to the philippines that in cairo the secretary of defense touching down in the latest stop on his tour of the middle east after saudi arabia. nbc's hans nichols is traveling with secretary mattis in egypt. >> reporter: secretary of defense jim mattis here in cairo today as he continues his trip across the middle east. ♪ it's a short visit here, but in some ways, the very message of his visit is that he's here.
this is a signal to the trump administration wants to have closer relationships with asia. mattis was meeting with his defense counterpart and second meeting with al sisi, the bond the two governments are trying to foster, after this trip he'll head to israel, the next stop, in between here and israel of course the sinai peninsula, where fighting isis is very much a topic of conversation. hallie, back to you. >> hans nichols wrapping up the frequent flyer miles in cairo, thanks. we'll head over to the korean peninsula as we whip around the world. kelly cobiella is in seoul we heard nk korean media says pyongyang is ready to launch a "super mighty pretemp i have strike against the u.s." is this the same or different from what we've heard from them in the past? >> reporter: this is pretty similar, hallie. this is the kind of message you would hear from the north koreans after something like
quha the secretary of state said about looking at new options, new ways to put pressure on north korea. north korea them sort of strikes back, strikes back with words sometimes, and also with imagery. you saw over the weekend these threats to annihilate the united states, these videos showing missiles hitting the united states, threats to destroy japan an south korea, all part of the north korean game book when it comes to these dmcommunications back and forth to the wider world. in addition to that we have something new actually over the past couple of days these new satellite images have come out, another possible message from north korea. the satellite images from the nuclear test site which analysts said was primed and ready about a week ago, well these new pictures which were taken sunday analysts say they show three
volleyball games happening at the nuclear test site. so what does this mean? analysts say it could mean that the crews are now on standby, waiting for a signal from pyongyang. it could be another kind of deception from north korea to the wider world but what we do know is it keeps the rest of the world guessing and north korea knows everybody's watching. everybody's listening. hallie? >> kelly cobiella in seoul, thank you very much for that. let me bring in our panel, white house reporter for "the washington post," david nakam a nakamura, on set ashley parker from "the post" and white house reporter for the associated press, jonathan lemire. lot of days we start talking about domestic policy. this is not one of those days. there's a lot happening around the world. david nakamura you said there doesn't seem to be from the trump administration cohesive understanding among foreign advisers. how big is the divide? >> what we've seen over the last few weeks the administration tried to present this idea
they're acting decisively. >> right. >> they're acting tough, but that they're also being unpredictable to keep people off balance. there's a difference between unpredictable and inconsistent, and that's what you're seeing in some cases from after they took the strikes in syria, there was a question for the administration what's next, do you support leaving assad in power if that can lead to a peaceful resolution in there or do you insist assad must go. they made statements on both sides of that. this week there was a reaction to the referendum in turkey that increased the authoritarian power of their president, and the administration sort of offered different statements more supportive from the white house, more chiding from the state department. i think the question for folks is, for diplomats and people in congress, what is the ultimate foreign policy of this administration, what are the bigger goals as they react to different crises around the world. >> the administration has said, press secretary sean spicer in the briefings we sit in, the policy is america first. are you seeing that reflected though not just via words but in the actions they're taking
overseas with allies and with enemies? >> you know it's been an interesting difference between the campaign. during the campaign the america first seemed to be close the borders, immigration, to some degree trade and maybe not be so sort of going around the world and using american might and authority to intervene in foreign conflicts that don't have a direct interest in the united states. that seemed to be the idea of america first. instead president trump being aggressive in the middle east in syria, with the missile strikes, after the chemical weapons atack, to north korea, having a stronger message there. so it's sort of a foreign policy that seems to be changing, which is okay. everybody says look, in the first few months presidents are confronted with reality, they can make some changes. no one is concerned about that. the question is have they put in place a system that allows them to draw on the resources of state, pentagon intelligence agencies, and the national security council, and then make a clear and decisive decision, and explain it to people at home and abroad. >> well, so let me pose this to you guys here, ashley and
jonathan. rex tillerson saying iran is following the nuclear deal and they're the next north korea. metaphor for the foreign policy overall? >> yes and no. the two things aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. what was embedded in that letter hien was the fact iran is following thterms of the nuclear deal which in theory is a positive. but the administration remains very concerned about iran, and one of the things you find with this administration, the thick they care most about is terrorism, and fighting terrorism and that's where their issue with iran comes in and they're sort of saying iran may be following the deal, but are there other areas we can hit them for being a state sponsor of terror. >> i think that's right. we're seeing this pattern of conflicting messages from the get-go. in nato we saw president candidate trump talk about how nato owes member countries of nato need to pay what they owe and how they're going to, u.s. might with draw some support if they don't pay their bills yet he comes out here with theresa may and says nato is a great thing. i think that risks undermining
the u.s. message not to enemies but so its allies. what is the u.s. standing for and how can we count on them. >> how can you send that message abroad, the message seems to be unclear just inside this administration overall. what is the west wing doing to get everybody on the same page. do you see action being taken? >> they changed national security advisers. there was crisis inside that device division. that's the agency responsible. the whole point of the national security council is to develop a coordination among the different agencies that have a say in national security which is pretty broad, includes treasury and other departments with economic sanctions. h.r. mcmaster is trying to establish that. this is a president not appointed a large number, hundreds of sort of upper middle level managers across the big cabinet agencies, and he sort of acted distainfully about government's too big, too many layers of decision-making. these people have expertise to help make these decisions and
also help explain it again to diplomats, to folks on capitol hill, and even to foreign nations. >> david knack knew rah there at "the post" headquarters, we missed you on set but thank you for the perspective. coming up a new twist in the case of the so-called dreamer arrested and deported. the judge who will hear his case gonzalo curial who has gone head to head with the president before. we'll look at what, if anything, it could mean for the new case, when we come back. there's nothing more important to me
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get ready for what might sound like a fake news headline, it is not. it is president trump squaring off again with federal gunlg gonzalo curial, because of his latino heritage accused of gunning for him. >> the judge was appointed by barack obama, federal judge. [ booing ] i mean, frankly, he should recuse himself. i believe he happens to be spanish, which is fine. he's hispanic, which is fine, and we haven't asked for recusal, which we may do but we have a judge who is very hostile. he's a mexican. we're building a wall between here and mexico. the answer is he is giving us unfair rulings. >> judge curial from indiana meets up again face to face potentially with president trump, in a case that is, wait
for it, all about immigration. the judge has been randomly assigned to what's become this high profile lawsuit juan manuel montez arrested and deport in february. homeland security officials say that's because he left the country without getting the government's approval first. he violated his daca status and lost his protections he might have had. we are watching he were to general jeff sessions and homeland security head john kelly heading down to the southern border operations in el paso, texas, later on this afternoon. there's going to be potential developments on this story to talk about what's happening now. i bring in msnbc chief legal correspondent ari melber and ashley parker and the socialed press's jonathan lemire. ari, judge curiel assignment, totally random. is there any reason to think the history between donald trump and
the judge could play into this, he might have to recuse himself? >> the history may play in for president trump who of course made a lot of noise about the judge but ultimately settled that case for $25 million. there's no recusal issue whatsoever. we were speaking to kathleen clarke an expert on this and we'll read you her review "the fact the president tried to pick a fight with judge curie le doesn't mean he gets knocked off on cases against the government." if you ask what kind of thing would it take, if judge curiel made statements that exhibited bias against one of the parties other made a statement that prejudged this case that would be the basis for recusal which brings us back to the beginning in the sound. it was president trump' view the ethnicity of the judge somehow basically implied some preconceived view about issues about trump or immigration. of course we're a nation of laws. we don't think that people's ethnicity says anything about
their views, and so really all of this is a kind of echo to his original unfounded attacks on the judge's independence. >> ari, drill down the nuts and the bolts of the case at hand here, right, the issue of juan montez, what happened to him. homeland security the government is telling one story. lawyers for juan montez are telling a different story. two different versions. >> in simple form this is all about a fight over how he got to where he got, and his argument is that he had legal status, and he was essentially revoked by the government and kicked out of the country. the government dhs in a statement said and you read from part of it that a, the border patrol has no record of encountering him and b, their view is that he did violate the terms of his parole, which was making basically a voluntary departure without notifying the government, which was one of the original obama era rules. this is what you see in court, a fight over not the law, not what
should be the right immigration policy which the whole country is debating but a fight over the facts, what really happened and that's going to be tested in court. >> when it comes to the facts, what we heard from the white house from sean spicer over the last 24 hours was listen, we got to learn more about this case. essentially saying more might come out about this, not talking more broadly about the policy but daca, hundreds of thousands of dreamers protected under this status and there seems to be a lack of clarity what happens to them. can you pull out your crystal ball and make predictions or too much even for you, ari melber? >> i think you're right, hallie, touch point cases and certainly a lot of rhetoric on immigration but if you broaden out to how is immigration policy changing, our legal unit checked this. this is early in the administration but we can say in january, which was a mixed bag between the obama and dump eras and february, the deportation rate is not significantly increase. while there's a lot of noise and a lot of talk about how the
executive branch nigmight dial s up and suggest pattern or hints, there isn't any indication that this juncture in the data there is wildly a greater enforcement. having said that, that's the initial data, you have an attorney general sessions who is talking about cracking down on sanctuary cities on revoking their money. that's a real executive order that's basically being implemented. you have cases like this that show what some people view, what critics certainly view as a beginning of in the first inning, an attempt to even undo people who had been historically protected. so i think it's early yet to point to the crystal ball. it would be fair to say as we approach this 100-day ma, more rhetoric than numbers on the idea of drastic enforcement changes. >> ari thank you for that perspective. much appreciated. ashley, jonathan, takeaways on what we see unfold? >> a couple things. during the campaign, there were very few things that seemed to hurt then candidate trump's standing. one of them, he attacked the gold star family and one was the
attacks on judge curiel. so we don't know if he's going after them. this is something that makes his team very nervous and hurt him in the past. immigration in gen rahle is a mixed bag for the president. on the one hand it is what rallied his base, but these dreamers who have this protective status, it's a tougher call. even within the white house, there's a debate what his policy should be. they're a protected group right now and doing anything to them in many cases poster children for valedictorians will bring out the progressive base as well. >> and ashley makes a good point. this is a president known for settling scores. this judge has been in his crosshairs for a while and some of his fiercest rhetoric during the campaign, some of the stuff he got the fiercest blowback for was from this judge. daca is trickier. he has sent mixed signals. in january he said i have a big heart. they have nothing to fear and yet we see members of his team, members certainly his base that
would like to see some action on daca, too, and it seems like the president is still trying to figure out exactly what to do. >> what do you think could happen, given the fact the attorney general is sending some mixed signals as recently as this week about what happens to dreamers? >> i think the 100-day benchmark is an interesting one. i think we're seeing some tough rhetoric here, before that mark, maybe an attempt to like suggest -- >> look at what we've done. >> that's right, we're fulfilling campaign promises and moving towards our goals. these i think the next couple of weeks it will be interesting to see what action follows that. >> i think his team is also aware that if he were to revoke this protected status, i've heard some of them say you tell me how that image looks. bunch of young kids who grew up here know nothing about america, are in high school, are in college, working members of their communities. >> looking for jobs. >> playing on sports teams, going to church. you imagine putting them on a bus and sending them back across the border, that's not an image this image savvy president wants. >> the white house seems to be pressing pause on this. you heard it in the briefing.
here's what sean spice her to say talking about the overall, not this case but the overall policy. >> the goal and the focus has been on people who pose a threat to national security or in some other way in violation. >> reporter: these cases come up people not posed a threat. >> i again, i would -- >> reporter: it's confusing. >> i would respectfully suggest in this particular case the facts are not completely out yet so i'd rather not jump to judgment on what's happening. >> it doesn't seem like the white house wants to be talking about this very much right now. >> no, i think well you saw that in your questioning of sean spicer. i think that's exactly right and i think part of it is because there's, again, this deep debate within the white house on what they should do and it's an issue once they make a decision one way or the other is going to have some political ramification. >> blowback either way. >> it is a ready made campaign ad for democrats going into 2018 or special elections if this does the damages of these young american loving kids being sent back over the border. >> jonathan, ashley. thank you. up next, house speaker paul
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we are back with a look at the morning's headlines. more fallout, 24 hours after fox announced a new line-up to replace bill o'reillo'reilly. his name has been taken off the show, if you heard it last night, he's calling his firing disheartening and based on unfounded claims. and "time" magazine has revealed its 100 most influential people of 2017, on the list no surprise president trump but also ivanka trump. the president's profile written by none other than speaker paul ryan. jared kushner and white house chief of staff reince priebus and chief strategist steve bannon, west wing representation to be sure. in venezuela new violence from anti-government protests claimed three more lives. the death toll is now eight.
general motors says operations at a factory have been shut down after it was illegally seized by authorities. in arkansas series of plans excuses of death row inmates have been stopped again creating new debate about capital punishment and how inmates are put to death. lawyers for inmate stacy johnson set to be executed today want a stay from the arkansas supreme court, and now listen to this, drug companies are stepping in, too. one of them is arguing in court that the drug they gave to the state is actually not intended for lethal injections. over on capitol hill this morning, we are learning about a potential health care compromise, a potential health care compromise being worked out between conservative and moderate republicans, nbc's kas kasie hunt is here with the details. everyone has to take a deep breath. >> reporter: that's right, hallie. this document we have the macarthur amendment a member of the moderate tuesday group. the question really is, can they, the moderates in this group come to terms with the freedom caucus.
i think there is a sense that oh, this means we might have something happening as soon as next week on health care. i do not think that that is the case at this point. we have leadership aides telling us that they are putting this, that essentially this is all overblown, this is not something we're going to see come out this week. the question what does this potentially do, the moderate members of the republican party have been concerned about freedom caucus moves to get rid of what are called essential health benefits, the list of things in the health care law that insurance plans are required to cover, things like maternity care, for example, and then of course you have questions about preexisting conditions, and that's the thing that's really kind of at the heart of all of this, and conservative members have wanted to essentially allow states to opt out of covering people with preexisting conditions, it's called a community rating. so this potential proposal from these more moderate members would say, well, you can opt out of some community rating issues, you can opt out of essential
health benefits if you're a state but you can't necessarily drop people because of their health status but it would allow some states to use high risk pools to cover those people, and those pools really kind of have a mixed record and something that still is going to concern a lot of these moderate members and again, we want to emphasize at this point it is not clear that there is any compromise that would have 216 votes in the house. that's what it coup woo take to get this on the floor. >> what is the takeaway, health care is back in the news. in one sentence, hey there's still some action, this thing ain't dead yet or more like tons of smoke, no fire? where are we in a sentence or two? >> republicans are under a ton of pressure to show they are getting something done on health care. they are still trying but there hasn't been a break-through. >> kasie hunt, breaking it down. that's why i love you, kasie hunt thank you very much. guys let's talk through this. your reaction to kasie's reporting. yes there is this document. lot of people are reading it, compromise maybe on health care.
the west wing wants to be talking about this but does anybody else? >> the skepticism is certainly warranted. there's no question that the health care, the failure of the original health care bill was a major black eye for this white house. >> it was like their number one priority coming in. >> they were going to repeal and replace obamacare day one. we're approaching day 100 and we're nowhere near it. they clearly want some sort of push here. i think it's hard to see that this bill has much traction at this point. if you're going to have something that appeals to the moderates inherently freedom caucus will be skeptical >> keep in mind about obama care in general a lot of the opponents hated the obama part. they liked the care. if anything their big concern there wasn't enough care. you look at what this bill is doing it's winnowing away at the care aspects. seems like a bill john said is going to get traction from both sides, when you bring on one freedom dom caucus member you lose one moderate and it has to pass the senate, but the people when they find out their care may be limited or preexisting
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behind us here, the white house announcing scott brown is going to be if all goes well if he gets confirmed the next ambassador to new zealand, obviously the former massachusetts politician has been named and discussed for potential positions inside the administration. remember during the transition there was talk of him maybe heading you up the va. looks like that is not the case. he will be moving to new zealand. scott brown, live your best life. also talking about health care. this is the topic we were talking about before the break and so is paul ryan. he's discussing it overseas in london. saying republicans are close to a new health care bill. as we heard from kasie hunt, this potential compromise getting worked out between conservative and moderate republicans may
not go all that far. here is what paul ryan had to say. >> health care is not dead. we're still working on it. it's difficult to do. we're very close, and it's basically make good on the promises that he were made. we want to have a system in america where everyone has affordable access to good health insurance, good health care
coverage, including people with preexisting conditions. >> so i want to bring in congressman ted deutsche, democrat from florida and member of the house foreign affairs and ethics committees and ashley parker from "the washington post" and jonathan lemire from the associated press. congressman thank you for joining us on a recess week. where do you see this potential compromise going, this would reinstate some of the essential health benefits, prohibit denial of coverage from preexisting conditions, coverage for kids up to 26 and limited waivers for states. it's some of what we've heard before. your takeaway here? >> first of all give the american people more credit than what we've read about this supposed compromise. the last part you just touched on is the key part. they seem to want to be able to say that it still bans discrimination for preexisting conditions and has essential health benefits and at the end except if you live in a state that decides that they don't want any of that. i live in florida.
i represent a district in florida, our governor refused even to expand medicaid. he was responsible for close to 1 million floridians not getting access to health care. i'm not -- we can't allow something to go forward that will make it possible for him to take health care away from even more floridians or the same for other governors and other states. >> so to you, this is already dead on arrival from the democratic perspective, no surprise there, is that what you're saying? >> well, if the result of this is that essential health benefits will be stripped away in a lot of states, but not all states, and that costs will go up in a lot of states, that means the costs will go up in all states, then of course there's a reason that 17% of the american people liked what they saw before, and in this case, when they see that it's really just an attempt to try to say one thing, and then make it even worse, no. this is not going anywhere. >> so i got to ask you, what is the way forward? recess week for members of congress as you know means town
hall time and those have been rauco raucous, not just for republicans and a lot of the angst is over health care. what is the plan? how do democrats get some republicans on board here or vice versa? >> well we have to start by making clear that what we've heard at the town hall meetings about health care, what we saw in the last debate hasn't changed. people will not support effort to take away health care for more than 20 million americans, drive up their costs, gut medicaid and make things harder for americans. i think there's a general consensus in the democratic caucus that we are ready to sit down to find ways to work together, to insure more people and bring down costs but not going to do it by providing fewer benefits, taking away access to maternity care and pediatric care and emergency care. that's a horrible way to go and seems to be the direction that the leadership wants to go again and that's what the president seems to want to do.
>> so let's put this health care deja vu debate aside. another showdown in congress comes up government funding, expires a week from tomorrow. is a shutdown coming? house dems are talking about it. >> it can be and has to be avoided. it's up to the president and the speaker and republican leadership that we can certainly avoid this if we act in a responsible way to prevent a government shutdown, but if the president thinks that this is an opportunity for him to try to force a fight about funding his wall that as you recall he told us americans were never going to have to pay for anyway, or if he wants to make this about immigration, if he wants to make this about defunding planned parenthood, then they're going to have to live with the fact that they're shutting down the government. nobody wants that, and they should know better. >> does this calculus play into your head at all? i have we aconversations with folks in d.c. who say hey, democrats who say hey, didn't seem to hurt the republicans,
the government shut down last time around, so why not? why not let the democrats, have the democrats do it. does that play into this at all the idea that perhaps the political calculation could end up not harming your party? >> well, let me be clear. the democrats to the one do not support shutting down the government. the responsible way ahead is to ensure that the government can continue to function. the request he is whether the president wants to wage a political battle about building a wall or defunding planned parenthood or attacking immigrants, and that those really divisive and dangerous approaches are something that he wants to use to shut down the government. i can't imagine that he or paul ryan or any of my republican colleagues could possibly think that's a good idea. >> let me ask you about sort of what's next for democrats. broadly in the 30,000 foot view
we talked about jon ossoff this week, he got close in the georgia election thanks to a ton of help from the dnc. montana democrats are saying where is the love. why did not isn't the dnc jumping into this race? what does the party structure need to do in order to, for example, help folks in montana to help people coming up in these special elections and the midterms? >> sure, i think the party has to do two things with it. we need to be supportive. let me remind people that jon ossoff didn't lose that race. he was polling at 42%, got darned close to 50, and there's now enthusiasm on the ground like there is no montana. the reason there's that enthusiasm is because we have a white house that won't release the white house logs. we have a white house, the visitor logs, a white house that continues to pay no attention to the ethics laws. we have a white house that acts in this super secret fashion. the president won't share his tax returns. those are the issues that around the country democrats and
republicans look at and wonder how it is that this president is allowed to get away with that and that enthusiasm is translating into a lot of votes in these special elections. >> i make the argument congressman not enough for jon ossoff, right? it looks like karen handel will take the runoff in june. >> jon ossoff spent a lot of money going from zero name i.d. to over 49% of the vote. he beat kamp handel by two votes. lots of candidates now going into the general election, she's going to have to decide is she going to stand with a president of the united states who skirts the ethics laws, is she going to stand with the president of the united states, who stakes out positions that are anti-immigrant, that are anti-woman, or is she going to, is she actually going to try to win the election and represent her folks, her voters, and it's tough for her because the president may have some support in that district, but it's not
universal. i like the chances that jon ossoff has going into june when you look at all of the passion coming out of the frustration that people have with the way this president has handled his ethics issues and the fact that we can't even have a full and independent investigation into the connections between the trump campaign and the trump white house, and russia. all of those things are weighing heavy on all of these elections, and that's i think ultimately going to play a significant role. >> congressman ted deutch thank you for the perspective and joining us here on msnbc. >> my pleasure, thanks. president trump winding down his first 100 days in office. what about the flipside of the aisle from where the congressman was just at? how do republicans think the president's been doing so far? we got a little bit of a presidential report card coming up after the break. needs to be fixed... trust safelite autoglass. for these parents, driving around was the only way to get their baby to sleep. so when their windshield got cracked... customer: we can't drive this car. tech: ...they wanted it fixed right. so they scheduled with safelite.
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today, we are looking at new numbers. republican voters weighing in on the president's first 100 days. weeks after that first, big defeat on health care, is trump's base sticking by him? is the president's base sticking with him? joining me is a political analyst and former chief of staff for president george bush. ashley and jonathan are here on set. andy, i'll start with you. overall, it seems like president
trump is doing well among republicans. 33% give him an a. 39% give him a b. if you're a college student, you dig those numbers. on health care, only 20% give him an a. not horrible, not great. you think the white house is still feeling pressure to act on this one? >> actually, i think the 100-day plan has been, obviously, a plan that was in place, but they've had to deal with a lot of things happening outside of their plab th -- plan that caused them to lose focus. they've accomplished quite a bit, more than i would have thought. they're behind on finding people to serve in government and getting those people nominated and confirmed. but in terms of changing the momentum in washington from the old days to the new days is happening. we're all debating about it. i'd love to get ashley and jonathan's take on this. but they've had a relatively productive, close to the end of the 100-day test period that we've all put out there for them. they're getting better grades than i thought they'd get.
>> all right. ashley and jonathan, andy teed you up there. what do you guys think? >> i think we know that, certainly, the president is very mindful of the 100-day benchmark. he tweeted the other day about, i think it was a fox news story, but 90 days and how he was doing well. he scheduled a press conference on day 98. could be talking about veterans affairs or perhaps he could give his own report card for his first 100 days. it is hard to suggest he's been a rousing success at this point. there are a number of campaign promises he's yet to fulfill. health care is a debacle. on the positive side, the successful nomination and insulation of a new supreme court justice is something that is going to not just help define his term but outlast his presidency. >> very true. >> yeah, i think it is risky to give the president any letter grade. as john said, it is certainly something he is deeply aware of. not just the letter grade but actually hitting achievement marks. he has, to aides privately,
compared himself to what president obama had done at this point. i think if he doesn't feel he's hitting the markers, you're going to see him get a bit erratic, which is never good. >> thank you, ashley. the ap is looking at the president's first 100 days, talking about sort of the president's position on global agreements. they write, that allows him to tell his base, of the pivots or flips, that he is getting a better deal than bush or obama got, and reensure the institutions it is being done with a nod and a wink, that trump doesn't mean what he says. do you agree with that? >> first of all, i do think that donald trump has been a little bit more of a marketer than he has a performer. he hasn't generated as much of the result that he promised, but he has, certainly, increased the rhetoric around what he wants to do. he's also dealt with some pretty big challenges that he didn't plan on dealing with in the 100 days.
north korea, syria, challenges with russia. he's got, you know, the iranians doing silly things. he doesn't even have his whole team in place and, yet, he is functioning better than he might have. i think he needs some help. i want congress to be a little bit more sympathetic in helping him get the people around him to do the job. that's the democrats in the senate. i want them to help get those number twos, threes and fours at the department so he has some people around him that can help implement these policies that are so important. not necessarily in the partisan sense or even the political sense, more for the national security sense. he's got a good national security team. i give high marks for general mcmaster and what he is doing at the nsa. i think that's good. we've got a lot more to do. but bottom line is, he hasn't met his obligation to govern well yet. that means to lead with, i'm going to say, motivation. so congress will want to do what he suggests. he's got to build a better
partnership with paul ryan and the republicans in both the house and the senate. in terms of executive action, he's actually done a pretty good job. he's been relatively decisive. i'm not pleased with everybody he's done, but he has motivated the executive branch of government to change the way they've been doing business. >> it seems if you're going to hang accomplishments for president trump on senate democrats going along with him, you might be waiting a long time. >> well, i'm just saying, the democrats criticized donald trump, and i understand that. but they criticize him for not having people around him who will speak truth to power. confirm people around him so they'll have more voices around him. he needs more jim mattises and rex tillersons on his team. the departments and agencies have a number one but not a two, tl three, four and five, truly members of the trump team. that's up to the senate to make sure he has an executive branch of government that can live up
to the expectations that he as president has, and meet up to the expectations that congress has, part of complying with the law. >> andy card, thank you very much for joining us from up there in new england. looks gorgeous. ashley and jonathan, thank you for hanging out on set. turned out to be a sunny day here in washington. also here in washington, guess who came over for dinner last night? ted, sarah palin, kid rock, meeting with president trump and jared kushner. a sentence you never thought you'd say. nice conversation with the president in the oval office. much more when we come back. look closely. hidden in every swing, every chip, and every putt, is data that can make the difference between winning and losing. the microsoft cloud helps the pga tour turn countless points of data into insights that transform their business and will enhance the game for players and fans. the microsoft cloud turns
that does it for us. i'm headed back to the white house for the press conference later on today. i'll see you there. i will see you, ali velshi, next hour. >> nice to see you. i'm looking at this day, it is beautiful out there. this is what they put on the brochures, you know. nice to see you, hallie. catch you at the white house later on. tough talk. the trump administration is turning up the heat on iran, threatening to pull the nuclear deal. meanwhile, a new push to force north korea to the negotiating table. we'll have the latest from tehran and seoul. back in the legal limelight, this man. judge curial was attacked by donald trump on the campaign trail with a case over trump university. now, it's ab