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that is our broadcast on a thursday night. thank you so much for being here with us. good night from new york. a couple years ago, 2015, the nation of nigeria got a brand new president. he was elected in large part on a promise he was going to clean up corruption in that country. nigeria has a big economy. it's a fairly well-off country. but its economy is really dominated by the oil sector. the oil sector is famously, fabulously corrupt. and so the new president came into office saying he was going to clean up corruption in the oil sector, which is so dominant in their economy. he was going to clean up corruption in the government. and then this happened. last week -- look at that. investigators got a call about a suspicious looking woman who kept taking bags in and out of
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an apartment, a seventh floor apartment owned by nigeria's intelligence chief in lagos. i'm not exactly sure what it takes for an anti-corruption investigator to raid the home of the nation's spy chief, but somehow the anti-corruption investigators were able to get the go ahead to do that, and wow. what they found inside spy chief's apartment in lagos was $75,000 worth of nigerian cash. they found about $35,000 worth of british pounds also in cash. and they found $43 million in american cash. $43 million. in one of the pictures they released, see in the upper right hand corner, these bricks of cash were wrapped up like they were christmas presents maybe? they also released video showing that at least in part this
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$43 million in cash was very tightly filed in big filing cabinets, also in arm wars and wardrobes. $43 million cash is a lot of cash. all stacked up and wrapped as christmas presents in his apartment. the spy chief says nothing to see here. this is totally normal. there is nothing weird about this. the explanation for why he needs $43 million in cash in his apartment is that that's how we funds covert ops. he funds covert ops using stacks of hundred dollar bills that he wraps up like presents. so maybe. apparently he has not been arrested yet but he's been suspended from his job because about government officials having that much cash at home. government officials, people
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taking government salaries and doing government work and having tens of millions of dollars at their zpoelz outside the political process without anybody having track of the money but them. there's something eh about that. it rubs you wrong, right? on last night's show we closed out the hour with a question. we raised a question about $107 million that appears to be sloshing around right now somewhere inside the trump administration with nobody accounting for it. these images here, these are images from the biggest presidential inauguration we ever had. this is the first obama inauguration in 2009. it was immense, biggest ever inauguration, biggest ever event of any kind of the city of of washington, d.c. to pull off that inauguration, the obama inaugural committee raised more money that had ever been raised before for an inauguration. they raised tens of millions of dollars.
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they raised $53 million just for the inauguration. that broke all previous records for inauguration fundraising. it broke those records by a lot. but you know what, it really was a big inauguration and in the end cost $50 million to put that on. so they had to raise about $50 million to put that on. but let me say again, that was a really big, really unusually big inauguration. let's put that on the left side of the screen. 2009. really big inauguration in 2009. on the right side was an inauguration that was not nearly as big. and i don't say that to be mean. also size isn't everything. i'm not trying to shut down the park service. but the trump inauguration which is the picture on the right, just as a matter of fact, it was much, much smaller than the one we saw in 2009. and it was of a different character.
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there were no mega concerts. there were no internationally known celebrity performs flying in and having hundreds of thousands of people to see them. the entertainment for the trump inauguration was like middle school bands and baton twirlers. which is cool, there's nothing wrong with that. a, size isn't everything, and, b, i like baton twirlers. but the trump folks collected from donors $107 million to put on this inauguration. the one with the baton twirlers and the high school band. and nobody lining big long stretches of the parade. if this is what your inauguration parade looks like, what do you need $107 million. why do you need to more than double the record amount of money that was raised and spent on the biggest inauguration ever for an inauguration that was a fraction of that size? now, this is not a good
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government issue, at least in terms of taxpayer money. not public money we're talking about. this is money trump folks took from donors specifically for the inauguration. they took $107 million, and that $107 million they took in from donors regardless of what needed to be spent for the inauguration in the end, that $107 million, it went somewhere. it obviously didn't go to this, right after that $107 million was not given by donors to the inauguration. it was not needed for the inauguration. they could have gold plated every person at that nutrition inauguration, and it still wouldn't have cost $107 million. but ask the next question. if that's not what donors money went for, what did it go for because the donors didn't get their money back when it turned out to be kind of auto cheap one. what were they donating to? what were they expecting to get
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for their money given that it wasn't needed for the inauguration. a couple weeks ago a reporter posting something at at least one thing that appears to have come out of that money. on february 8th, two and a half weeks into the new administration, the white house hosted a meeting between several national security council officials and this guy. we now know thanks to fac filings released yesterday by the white house, that when this international investor got that white house meeting with national security council officials at the white house, we now know his dad had just written over $600,000 in checks to fund spectacularly overfunded inauguration. according to the jake horowitz's reporting the son got a meeting with national security council officials on february 8th. then following day he was actually ushered into an even higher level meeting, ushered into the top tier of the white
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house with a meeting with steve bannon. the purpose of those meetings, the national security meeting and the steve bannon meeting was for him to present his detailed ten-point plan for changing u.s. foreign policy toward venezuela, and specifically dropping u.s. sanctions toward that country. the guy reportedly venezuela's foreign minister on the phone, put the foreign minister on the phone during the meeting apparently just to show off that he could get the foreign minister on his cell phone during the meeting. now, venezuela doesn't get a ton of political coverage in the united states, but venezuela is a country in intense turmoil right now. the sanctions that the u.s. put on venezuela were put there in 2014 after 43 people got killed while participating in anti-government protests, another three people got killed in anti-government protests just yesterday.
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there had been weeks and weeks of rioting and protests. and now today venezuelans are engaged anew by the brand new fac filing from the white house that shows that interesting thing about the guy who got the meeting with the nsc officials and steve bannon. it also shows while venezuelans have been rioting in the streets while there have been food and medicine shortages, a country that should be a rich country but people have been literally starving in venezuela, somehow in the midst of this incredible economic and political crisis in venezuela, venezuela's state-run oil company somewhere found a half million dollars to donate to the very, very, very inexplicably overfunded trump inauguration. venezuela's state run oil company gave them $500,000 too. so they're dumping money into the trump inauguration, meanwhile another $500,000 was
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apparently enough to not only open the white house but the national security council to a very well-connected donor and international investor who had a plan he wanted to share on venezuela. venezuela is in dire straits. it does not have the money to spare and yet they dumped $500,000 on trump. and this guy who's dad donated to the inaugural to take away the sanctions on venezuela, do you think he one of you gotten a meeting with the national security council and the top adviser to the president had he not shoveled him 666 thousand dollars to pay for something that was already paid for? this kind of thing has a name. it's one of those catchy slogany political names. might remember it from the campaign. >> it's called pay for play. some of these were really,
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really bad and illegal. if it's true. it's illegal. you're paying and you're getting things. this was big stuff. pay for play. it's illegal. it's illegal. >> in a normal administration in a normal time, something like this inauguration donor thing, it would be the subject of multiple congressional investigations, right? it would be the biggest scandal in any number of recent presidential administrations. in the trump era, there's no congressional investigation of something like this. we just do news stories on cable and hope somebody picks it up. but this is not arcane stuff. it's not complicated stuff or hard to find. this money truly is not wrapped up like christmas presents or stuffed into an nigerian spy chief's closet. but it's as obvious as that. donors to the inauguration did not actually pay for the inauguration. there was not $107 million worth
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of inauguration to pay for. if the police see you give somebody $200 on a street corner, and you're explanation when they ask you about that is you were buying a stick of gum or a loose cigarette off a guy, they're not going to believe you that that's what you gave him $200 for. and i know like big numbers are hard for me to get my head around. big numbers are hard to conceptualize sometimes. if we take the unit has inaugurations, the inauguration on the left cost $50 million. if that's true, the one on the right could not cost $100 million. so where's the money? where did all that money go? what are they using it for if they're using it for anything yet? who has it? number two, not incidentally the people rioting in venezuela would like some of it back. number three, and this is the
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most important, certainly the most scary, in a normal administration, the national security council doesn't get used for stuff like this. national security council officials do not have to meet with half million dollars donors to hear their ideas on sanctions for some other country. what's the price in this administration for a meeting with the national security council staff? was it a half million dollars when that same donor wrote a second check for another $166,000 apparently on that same day? was that you guys upping the price? did you fold in the money from the state run oil company or was that separate? how much does it cost to get meetings with national security council officials? how much does it cost to get a new foreign policy from this administration? because in a normal administration, the national security council isn't used to pay off donors. the national security council is for a thing. it's not supposed to be
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concocting fake leaks of scandalous intelligence to republican congressman in order to submarine the russia investigation. the national security is not supposed to be for entertaining donors. the national security council is for a thing. it is supposed to rationalize and synthesize huge information on national security for the benefit of presidential decision making on those matters. it's supposed to achieve consensus and a unified view and message within the government on sensitive national security issues. so when it's important and brinks man ship and war and peace are at stake, that the u.s. government, a, makes good decision, and, b, speaks with one voice. so stuff like what's happening now doesn't happen. yesterday the trump administration, secretary of state, said explicitly in writing that iran is in compliance with the nuclear deal yesterday. then today, the president said out loud that iran is not in
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compliance with the nuclear deal. even if you don't have an opinion on iran and the nuclear deal, which of those are you going to take as american policy? which is it? that was just today. at the beginning of this week the trump administration expressed grave concerns about the erosion of democracy in turkey. noted that the referendum was marked by serious reports of irregularities in the vote. that was the beginning of the week. no sooner had the trump administration expressed those concerns, then the president himself called turkey's president to congratulate him on his big win in that awesome referendum. okay? regardless of how you feel on the turkish referendum, which is it? which of those is actual u.s. policy now? is anybody home on this? is anybody working here? because apparently this is the way national security works now. in the most powerful country on earth. now it's ten-point plans on
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venezuela policy get stove piped directly to senior national security council staff and into the oval office by donors who pay money into a mysterious slush fund and nobody admits to rolling with it. that's how we get venezuela policy advice now. now we shoot missiles into syria either because bashar al assad must go or because the fate of bashar al assad must be decided by the syrian people, not us. or because the u.s. will henceforth will make sure no innocent people are harmed in syria, or because we're not going into syria at all. take your pick. who's asking? who's answering? who's in charge? turkey is either a catastrophe right now or it's awesome. iran is either in compliance with that deal or it is out of compliance with that deal. spin the char wheel. whose turn is it to talk? depending how invested you are in foreign policy in different parts of the world, difference
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wars, i don't know which of those individually might worry you, but here's one that's really clearly trying its best to worry us. on saturday, north korea time, you might remember we covered the start of the big start of the military parade to commemorate the birthday of the founder, kim il-sung, the grandfather of the current dictator. they were trying to figure out what's in there and what kind of load can those trucks bear and what types of missiles they have and how far can they go, what kind of weapons can they be fitted with. that was the parade. the big finale of this weekend's birthday celebration for kim il-sung was a state tv broadcast of like a musical? i don't know if you call it a musical. it was a military band and a military choir, kind of a
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military orc tra on stage. performing in uniform at the top of their lungs. with patriotic fervor. this was the finale. you might have heard about it but i don't know if you've seen it. watch this. i'm going to show you less than a minute of this. it's going to feel really long, because of the audio, but watch it. it's a little less than a minute. watch it until the end. you'll see why it's important to watch it to the en. in particular, watch the screen. watch what's being projected on the screen behind the performers. ♪ ♪ ♪
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♪ [ applause ] north korean state television this week. i'm sure that was a lot of fun for everybody involved. with a big finale, the big cull minimum nation is the animated depicks of north korea firing intercontinental ballistic missiles, nuclear war heads at what appears to be san francisco, and the crowd goes wild. and ultimately a few seconds later there's kim jong-un clapping along, yay. north korea loves the united -- threatening the united states. that's not new. they're making this threat that they might be about to test another nuclear weapon in real life. nbc news reporting that u.s. planes are deployed right now
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watching for potential underground detonation in north korea. that includes an air force plane that's been deployed that is specifically equipped to detect evidence of a nuclear explosion. whether or not they've moved significantly forward on their nuclear capability or missile capability, in this kind of a threat environment, and the people who are really the most freaked out are some of our closest allies in the world, south korea and japan. their biggest population centers are within reach, not of any far off in the future weapon that north korea, their biggest portion centers are within reach. their population centers are in reach of the conventional arsenal that everybody knows white well that north korea has already got. and in that threat environment, there is this freaking white house who literally can't even
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be house literally can't even be board to pronounce pyongyang. >> all the other ways in which we can bring pressure to bear on the regime in pon yan. >> it's pyongyang. >> on the regime in pon yan. >> it would be one thing if you' agricultural secretary. also, korea's not part of china, nor has korea ever been part of china. "the wall street journal" released a transcript in which the president bragged about learning about the whole history of china and the korean peninsula from a ten-minute lecture he got from the chinese president. as americans we're not psyched to learn our president is trying to learn basic world history by listening to other country's leaders telling him about it. if you're south korea, you're not psyched to learn our american president believes korea was part of china because it wasn't part of china. south korea's really mad at china on the odd chance president trump accurately described what the chinese president told him, now south korea wants an explanation as to whether or not china is
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spreading a rumor telling ignorant leaders around the world about a made up history between china and the korean peninsula that china would love to be true but isn't. and the koreans are sensitive about it. in this incredible threat environment neither south korea nor japan, both of them god allies of ours, we had sent an aircraft carrier to that region to basically back north korea up, to push back on them to make an american show of force off the korean peninsula. despite the president and the national security adviser and the defense secretary and the white house spokesman saying multiple times we had not actually sent that aircraft carrier up there. they're not psyched about that either. everybody's very excited about us coming up on the first hundred days. what will they say they've accomplished in their first hundred days? will the president's approval ratings be for his first hundred days? first we have to get to day 100.
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everyone's talking about, tonight. and the bill you need to pay? do it in seconds. because we should fit into your life, not the other way around. go to reuters has new report out on documents that have been seen by u.s. intelligence officials. they have seven current and former officials on this story. they have seven because then the former intelligence officials as sources on this story. they say these two documents originated with an in-house kremlin think tank in russia. this is a think tank staff by former russian senior intelligence officers.
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the think tank basically works for the president of russia, for vladimir putin. according to the reuters new reporting, this think tank last year produced two policy papers that were widely circulated in the russian government. including at the highest levels which presumably means putin's office itself. reuters says the the first of these two documents laid out what was essentially an expansion strategy for the government to upscale its propaganda campaign targeting the u.s. election using social media and russian state controlled outlets. that was the first document from the summer. second document is from october of last year, a month before the election. and that one argue that hillary clinton was looking good for the election. that hillary looked like she had a shot and so russia should maybe stop promoting trump so much. they should hedge their bets a little bit in case trump didn't win the election. instead, the russian intelligence operation in the united states should shift a
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little to not just hyping trump but instead hyping claims of voter fraud. otherwise trying to delegitimize the election and say it was rigged. so if hillary clinton won, the russian goal then would be to undermine her legitimacy as president and also to delay -- lay the ground work for domestically destabilizing the united states by creating the impression that our election was rigged by undermining faith in our electoral process. we know now that the russian government direct cyberattacks on the election. we know also that the russian government orchestrated a propaganda effort to confuse american voters, to help trump, and most of all, and most directly, to hurt hillary clinton. but what is new reuters report documents is how this doesn't
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wasn't some freelance operation. this wasn't a low-level thing. this was a top-down strategic government-ru government-run,well thoughtout intelligence run coordinated in part by the in-house think tank which putin staffed with his former intelligence officers. this was not a po dunk operation. that was not a lark. this was military. this was highest levels. this was a nation to nation attack. two weeks before the inauguration this year, president-elect trump met with the intelligence community for a briefing on the russian scandal, on the russian attack on the election. remember at the time he was repeatedly insisting that there was no russian attack whatsoever on the election. he kept saying that. and so once he was president-elect, the intelligence agencies asked if they could please brief him on their evidence to show him in fact the attack had taken place. this was his reaction at the
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time almost immediately after that briefing he issued a statement saying these professionals wanted to brief him to tell him the russia operation had, quote, absolutely no effect on the outcome of the election. that is not what they told him. that was not true. the intelligence professionals did not tell him that, and that was not the purpose of the briefing. in fact, they've said publicly that they don't know what the impact was of the russian attack on the outcome of the elections. the week after had he put out that ridiculous statement, the following week, he was still on the subject and he continued to tweet about the russian attack, the hacking into the election. quote, russia says nothing exists. probably released by, scare quotes, intelligence, even knowing there is no proof and never will be. my people will have a full report on the hacking within 90 days. my people will have a full report within 90 days.
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so the scare quotes are important. nevermind this fake intelligence community junk saying russia attacked the election. my people will have a full report on the supposed russian hacking of the election within 90 days. that was january 13th. it has been 97 days. it has been 90 days since the inauguration, since the president's people have been looking into the russian hacking planning to issue a full report. reached out to them the national security council, and a spokes penn for them said they were unaware of any such report. are we supposed to be working on that? a spokesman told them he was unaware if there was somebody in charge of compiling it or if the responsibility might fall to giuliani. giuliani says there will be this cybersecurity role until the new administration.
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oh, maybe he's doing it. "politico" reached out to him to ask a spokes penn for the new york city mayor confirmed he's not involved in any 90-day report. so here's the thing. the trump administration is not putting together a report on the russian hacking of the u.s. election. trump said he would get to the bottom and have a full report on that attack within 90 days. nobody's even working on it. were you counting on them to get to the bottom of it? but there are investigations into the russian attack on our election and the possibility that the trump campaign was in on it. the justice department, the fbi, they're on it, right? news on that, actually. that's next. tech: when your windshield needs to be fixed... trust safelite autoglass. for these parents, driving around was the only way to get their baby to sleep. so when their windshield got cracked... customer: we can't drive this car.
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officials, multiple meetings, jeff sessions admitted he had last month attorney general jeff sessions admitted he had had meetings with a russian officials, multiple meetings, that that he had not previously disclosed. when that news broke, he recused himself from oversight of the counterintelligence and possibly criminal investigations underway at the justice department into the russian attack on the presidential election last year. and of course the possibility that the trump campaign helped in that attack or was complicit in it. sessions was such a big part of the campaign who himself is not overseeing those investigations
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at the justice department, at the fbi. it's other people at the justice department who are overseeing those investigations. today we got unexpected news that the head of the national security division at the justice department, the person in charge of overseeing as npr says, the justice department's investigation of foreign meddling into the 2016 election and possible ties between the trump pain and russia, she's leaving. her name is mary mccord. she's a career justice official serving in an acting capacity in that national security job since the inauguration. but now she's out. she's not offering an explanation as to why she is leaving her post in a message to staff, she just said this. quote, the time is now right for me to pursue new career opportunities. is the time now right? is it? i'm sure it's right for her. but i would really like somebody
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who understands the justice department to tell me whether the time is now right for all of us as well. joining us is matthew miller. he's a former spokesman for attorney general eric holder. and former director of the office of public affairs at the justice department. thank you so much for joining us tonight. >> thanks for having me. >> what kind of job does mary mccord do? what is this position he's leaving. >> the national security division is the lead prosecutor for the justice department for terrorism cases, is one of the most important divisions of the justice department, and especially so right now where you have this unprecedented investigation into whether the president's campaign conspired with a foreign power to tip the election. it's really a crucial spot. and she's really -- a lot of people don't know who she is, and didn't know she was leading this investigation. but she's been a critically important spot at the doj. >> those of us outside the justice department community i think don't always know what it means when they say things like overseeing the investigation. we talk about jeff sessions
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being recused from overseeing those investigations. you use the phrase she's leading the investigations. how should we understand what that day-to-day work is like and how important the actual person doing that job is? >> the actual investigative work is being done by the fbi. i think we have very clear evidence of the director of the fbi. jim comey is involved in it personally. but on the prosecuting side, the prosecutors would be deeply involved in investigation like this. they authorize subpoenas when someone needs to go to the fisa court and get a fisa warrant as they did in that investigation for carter page. it's something mary mccord and her staff would have done. so they would be involved day-to-day on the developments of this case and providing direction for how it should go forward. i'll say they report -- she reports to the deputy attorney general, someone who's also an acting person right now. but really, that's in a briefing
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capacity. they brief him every now and then. it's mary mccord that would be hands on day-to-day in this. >> now that she's leaving, this administration has been very slow to nominate people for senior jobs who will now be in charge if that position goes unfilled? a new acting person will be elevated by jeff sessions? >> it's a great question. and it's an acid test for what happens right now. in a lot of the other jobs they have not appointed career people, the civil rights division position they've political person there, not someone confirmed by the senate. in other divisions they have that. i think it would be hugely troubling if they put a political appointee who had not been nominated or confirmed by the senate into this job to investigate the president. it has to be a career person. eventually it has to be a special council, but short of that, it has to be an acting career person until someone can be confirmed by the president. -- by the senate. >> that last point you made is very important. i think people are cottoning to
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the story and figuring out what this means. what you said is going to be in a lot of headlines tomorrow. if people grasp the importance of what just happened here. matt miller, former spokesman for attorney general eric holder. >> thank you. >> more to come. stay with us. . stay with us. t. stay with us. o. stay with us. ni. stay with us. g. stay with us. ht. stay with us. (de♪p breath) (phone ringing)
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where there's a hard-fought race to replace tom price in congress. i continue to believe that one of the most amazing things about this story is actually tom price. and the fact that he was able to leave his seat in congress to get a job in the cabinet as health secretary. that might be the most amazing thing about that whole story that tom price was able to join the cabinet given what we know about tom price. reports while he was in congress heading up a key congressional subcommittee on health care, he was buying and selling health care stocks while also sponsoring and voting on legislation that could affect the price of those stocks. he was proposing legislation that would have directly benefited companies in which he held stock. last month, pro-public ca, this had a bomb she will report that on the same day tom price bought $90,000 of pharmaceutical stocks, was only last year 2016. that same day he called a u.s.
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health official to scuttle a rule that would have hurt those companies' bottom line and made them more profitable which would have made their stock price go up which would have been been ka-ching for tom price. which of course would have been a massive scandal if anyone was paying attention. he was also the subject of an investigation by preet bharara in the southern district of new york was inexplicably fired by the trump administration. there's been a lot of attention on that georgia 6th race. interestingly, nobody's making that much mention of tom price in that race as him being the guy who opened up the seat in the first place. even his wife is an active combatant in that race. recording ads, urging constituents to vote republican, keep that seat red. today president trump sent out fundraising miss he's criticizing the candidate for having ties to nancy pelosi.
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and chuck schumer. what about the republicans' ties to tom price? what about the fair dignity of the constituents of the 6th district of georgia and the guy who's representing them while lining his own inoculates congress? he's not a factor in this race, but we're not exactly sure what's going to happen in this race at all. and the democrat in the race, jon ossoff, joins us next. stay with us. ve is knowing... he's the one. (vo) was meant to be. and love always keeps you safe. we're fine. (vo) love is why we built a car you can trust. now and for a long time to come. the all-new subaru impreza sedan and five-door. a car you can love no matter what road you're on. the subaru impreza. more than a car, it's a subaru.
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i am totally blind. and for years i've struggled with non-24, a circadian rhythm disorder that can turn my sleep cycles upside down. it kept me from doing the things i truly love to do. sometimes i'd show up early; sometimes i was too late. and sometimes, even though i was there... i didn't really feel..."there." talk to your doctor, and call 844-234-2424 to learn more. in georgia this week, a young democrat named jon ossoff
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racked up 48% of the vote in a congressional election there, just shy of the 50% he would have needed this week. now he's going to face republican karen handel in june . there were a zillion republicans in the primary. it hadn't been clear whether it was a help or a hurt for those candidates to tie themselves to president trump. now that we're under the general election, though, that dye has cast. the president today made an overt fundraising pitch for container handle. on the democratic side, there's, of course, no sitting president to raise money for the democratic candidate but jon ossoff continues to be a record-breaking fundraising juggernaut. and national democrats today made a half million dollar ad buy in support of his campaign. joining us is jon ossoff. democratic candidate for georgia's 6th congressional district. mr. ossoff, it's nice to meet you. thanks for being here. >> nice to meet you, rachel. fan of the program. >> does it help you or hurt you in your effort to win this race
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that you are being seen as kind of a national bellwether, a test of the sentiment for or against this new president? >> well, the truth is, i'm not entirely sure. there's obviously a lot of national interest and national attention, folks looking for national implications and many in the community here who have deep concerns about the direction of things in washington right now and the administration. i share those concerns and i speak to those concerns but one of the reasons the campaign was able to perform so well earlier this week, i've been working on building a coalition that unifies people around a vision for our local economic development and around shared values that unite people in the community rather than focusing on divisive nationalized politics. >> you are running in a district that is relatively high income district. it's a racially diverse district. it's a very well-educated district. a lot more people have college degrees in your district than in the nation at large. are there things about your district that national folks
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looking from the outside get wrong, that people misinterpret or guess wrong in terms of the way you need to run locally that may not make sense on a nationwide basis? >> well, it's a pretty moderate pragmatic district, very well-educated, as you mentioned. in the aftermath of the presidential election and the difficult primary cycle that democrats had, there's a lot of hand-wringing right now about national strategy. all of these house districts are different in the type of candidates who will do well and each one will be different. in order for democrats to compete in these house districts, we need to have a broad tent that represents broad ideology. >> has there been a lack of hugging from bernie sanders who refused to get on -- refused to get on board with the idea that you're a progressive candidate or you're somebody who he might support? >> not at all.
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i think he ran an impressive campaign last year. and i think that much of his support was rooted in the sense that our political institutions no longer represent the interests. ing i'm someone who's spent the last few years investigating crime as an investigative journalist and i'm speaking to some of those same concerns about the need for campaign finance reform, how captured our institutions of government are by special interests and how we can return the work of folks in washington to what serves people at home. >> one last question for you, jon. maybe a delicate issue. tom price won re-election with big, big numbers. the people of that district wanted him in washington when he was a member of congress. what to my mind looked like serious corruption allegations made against him during his confirmation process to be health secretary, had to complicate the view of him in that district at all. is that an issue for you at all?
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how are you handling that issue in the campaign. >> well, very candidly. you've got to put the politics aside. when it comes to matters of public integrity, if any official of the federal government, no matter their party or position, you know, if there are reasons to believe there may have been some form of impropriety, the facts need to be fully investigated. >> jon ossoff with george's joolkts sixth congressional district, thank you for being with us. >> thanks, rachel. stay with us. we'll be right back. ♪
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we've been following an interesting story out of montana. they get one congressional for the whole state until recently ryan zinke but he left to become interior secretary. so in montana they have to figure out a way to replace him. if you only have one seat in congress for the whole state, you really need to fill that seat, right? the original plan was to have a special election conducted through the mail. the state sends you a ballot in the mail, you fill it out and send it back. they do that for a lot of elections in montana already. montana senate liked it. county clerks who run the elections asked for that. it was going to save the state hundreds of thousand dollars of dollars after the november election has been unexpectedly expensive. it was basically a bipartisan money-saving good government, noncontroversial idea. and then the head of the state republican party decided it couldn't happen. he sent out a report to his fellow republicans warning them
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that an all mail-in ballot election would result in more people voting and that would, quote, give the democrats an inherent advantage. montana hasn't sent a democrat to congress since 1997. trump won montana by 20 points but apparently it's better to have the voters spend an extra 250 thousand dollars than to risk too many people voting so they might lose the election. the montana state chairman said his fellow republicans' good government plan had to go. he sent that message in february. there's been wrangling about it in the legislature we've been following. finally, it looks like the state republican chairman won. republicans in the legislature flipped on this. they killed the all-mail ballot despite attempts from people on both parties to try to save it. the ryan zinke special election will now happen on may 25th, on a thursday. you can bet a lot of people across that state will forget to vote or find it too inconvenient
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to do so and the state republican leader will cheer their absence from the polls because that's better for republicans. you guys scared? that does it for us tonight. >> we have a big group here tonight. we have three women whose accusations in the last few weeks came out about bill o'reilly, the stories that really did change what was happening an fox news. they are going to join us. >> incredible. >> lisa bloom will also be here. she represents all of those women. and if you are afraid that donald trump could succeed in taking your health care away and repealing the affordable care act, i'm just going to take care of that for you tonight. you do not have to worry about that. >> there's a great plan and this will be great health care. it's evolving. the plan gets better and better and better and it's gotten really, re


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