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hello, i'm stephanie gosk. it's 2:00 out east and 11:00 in the west. president trump's policy on the environment and climate change are under way on his 100th day of presidency. tens of thousands will be taking part in the main march in washington, d.c., and right now they are heading down pennsylvania avenue and plan to surround the white house as soon as the grand finale. the march has come a day after the epa took down the climate change as part of its website. the page now says it's being updated to reflect the epa's priorities under the new president. anthony turrel joins me now. has there been one message above others that have risen to the top today?
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you can hear behind me protesters chanting "shame." protesters are going to sit down for 100 heartbeats is what they are saying. one heartbeat for one day of president trump's administration. now, i have a special guest here who joins us. nolan gold is here as an ambassador for the sierra club. nolan, what made you come out to this march today? >> a lot of things made me come out but specifically this is the people's climate march and different than what we've done before because this is focused ohhen people most affected by climate change. that's what hits close to my heart. indigenous, lgbt community, this is not just this climate change. it's about all of us. it's a world issue and we're all connected. >> reporter: you're an ambassador for the sierra club. how do you take this energy and transform it into action?
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>> well, as you can see there, a lot of energy is going on right now and it's great. it's inspiring to see these people coming out. we hope that this will show change on all different levels of the government. we hope that people here can take this home and get inspired. local governments and local communities and sierra club is a great outlet for that. it's the largest grassroot environment organization in the nation. we hope to change opinions autopup at the very top. >> reporter: so how in your personal life do you take your beliefs on environmental and climate action and put it into action? >> it's kind of cool. i get to, like, defend the environment in both my personal and public life. in my real life, i like to walk the life. i drive an electric car. i cut down on water consumption and just became a vegetarian last year, which is really hard
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but it saves climate change in a lot of different ways. >> thank you very much. appreciate you coming out here. >> great. thank you. stephanie, folks around me are sitting down. back to you. >> anthony, thank you very much. as we said, the crowd in washington is getting closer to the white house. de kelly o'donnell is there. do you think the president will hear them literally and figuratively? >> reporter: the crowd is here. it's one of the largest that i recall seeing. i've been here many years. the distance from the white house to the front gate is less than you might expect and you can very much hear protests, which are here every day in one form or another, but this is large in scale and it's almost had the feeling of being inside a stadium where there's sort of a wave of roar from the crowd. based on where i am inside the
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gate, i don't know the specifics of what they're chanting but it is definitely visible and audible from the north lawn. the president this afternoon is scheduled to be taping an interview marking his 100 days. and so the sound will be an issue as you and i both know, if it's bleeding into the residence or the room where they may be doing the interview. the president marking 100 days, later today heading to "hardball"bur harrisburg, pennsylvania, for a campaign-type trip. the white house part of it is he will sign his 30th executive order. it deals with trade ordering a review of all existing trade pacts that the u.s. has with other countries around the world and the rally portion is actually paid for and under the heading of the trump/pence campaign operation. and that will be sort of a celebration of the first 100 days from the president's perspective with his supporters and we expect that kind of
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campaign rhetoric that we have come to know from donald trump to be on stage tonight. so that is the president's day as it's planned. it is a hot day here in washington. and in all of the political ways it's been hot as well. >> making it to the 100-day mark, president trump is on the defensive tweeting, "mainstream fake media refuses to state our long list of achievements, including 28 legislative signings, strong borders and great optimism." but one thing americans aren't optimistic about, health care. in a new poll, just 20% of those surveyed say it is very likely the president will manage to repeal and replace the affordable care act. president trump tried to explain the hold-up in an interview last night on fox. >> i'm disappointed i'll tell
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you, paul ryan is trying very, very hard and we're dealing with obstructionist. i've once said it's complicated. it's not that hard. i was disappointed that they didn't have more in line by the time i walked in. >> another new headache for the president today, michael flynn. the pentagon announced on thursday that it was launching an investigation into flynn over alleged payments he received from foreign governments. the president who called flynn a, quote, wonderful man, even after firing him back in february, had this to say. >> i do feel badly for him. he's served the country. he was a general. but just remember, he was approved by the obama administration at the highest level. and when they say we didn't vet, well, obama i guess didn't vet because he was approved at the
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highest level of security by the obama administration. >> let me bring in erin mcpike for the independent journal and alex bolton with "the hill." let's start with this michael flynn issue. we've heard him say that sort of thing before, that he supports the work that he has done. do you think this white house is handling this russia issue correctly? are they going to be able to come out from under it? >> well, it's a tough question to answer because we don't know what is there and the suspicion among capitol hill is that there's a coverup and there's something that elijah cummings on the house oversight committee said earlier this week. he was wondering why is the white house covering up for flynn? now, whether they are or not, we don't know. that's what democrats on the hill want. they want flynn's e-mail core
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spo correspondent. it depends on whether republicans join that call and if they do, it's going to be tricky to see no. so far, sean spicer has called those request requests ridiculous and outlandish. his biggest problem is getting things done on tax reform and health care. it's assuming a lot of attention here in d.c. >> erin, let me turn to you. what is your take on how the president handled michael flynn? >> we heard sean spicer do the very same thing in one of his press gaggles. it seems like that's a coordinated message and strategy from the white house to shift blame a little bit to the obama white house because they know obviously that mike flynn has been a bad figure for them. if in any way they can distance themselves from mike flynn, they will. >> alex, i want to turn now to
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health care and you brought it up a moment ago. is there hope for this new health care plan and if it fails again, who bears the responsibility for it? >> i think it's pretty much dead. i mean, they were not able to get the votes at the end of the week and so it doesn't appear that there's been a lot of momentum behind that bill. it's become more conservative but marginally more conservative. it hasn't sold critics like rand paul who has a problem with the subsidies and giving states the rights to have waivers and to allow companies -- insurance companies to discriminate against people with pre-existing conditions. i mean, those things may not even make it into the final law. it may not pass the reconciliation process in the senate. so i think this was sort of a last gasp and it's pretty much dead. i'd be surprised if it passes the house. >> erin, we just heard there, there are difficulties with this
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health care plan, this bill. now you have the white house introducing a new tax policy. is the white house taking on too much at once? should they just be focusing on one issue and trying to get it resolved? >> no, i don't think so, because you hear all of the time that u.s. presidents say they have to walk and chew gum at the same time. there's a lot on the docket and a lot that they have to do. they should try to do everything that they promised. i think the reason they brought back health care, revived it for a little bit was just because to donald trump supporters, it looked like he had given up too easily. tax is going to be the push here. they know that health care is dead. you hear that from a number of lawmakers because obamacare has gotten more popular with the public over the last year or so. so tax reform will be the biggest push and we'll see a lot of movement on that. whether they can get the package that donald trump wants, that's doubtful. but they should be able to get something and if they can't pass something on tax reform, even if it is small and not huge, not a
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big comprehensive bill, that will be a problem for them heading into the mid-determine elections next year. >> alex, what's your take on how this has been rolled out, this tax reform policy, very broad, not a lot of details there? >> it caught a bunch of people on the hill by surprise and people in the administration by surprise. the president made his comment in an interview the previous week where he said we're coming out with a major tax cut, possible leet bigge possibly the biggest in history. i think he sent the nation scrambling to put together an outline that would back up his interview quotes. that's why the plan was so broad and in fact it was predicted on the hill to be broad. it included more details than some folks expected. i think this is a political document more than anything else. there's a lot of detail that needs to be fleshed out. the administration will be holding meetings with sta stakeholders to add that detail. but this is something that i
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think caught folks by surprise and wasn't really coordinated with the policy makers on capitol hill. so -- but it got the president what he wanted. it got him a big announcement right before his 100-day mark and that's what the purpose of it was. >> erin, turning to foreign policy, this has been one place where there's been bipartisan praise for the president's decisions, like the strike in syria. he talked about other accomplishments that can't be measured. take a listen to this. >> i have set the foundations for a lot of great relationships in the future. i have tremendous feelings for a lot of people running the countries of this world. and that's a good thing. that's a great thing. you don't measure that in the first 100 days but those foundations have been set in the first 100 days. >> erin, has he done that? has he set the foundation that he describes there? >> well, stephanie, i do think when it comes to japan and china, he has done a lot of work in that regard. you remember, he's had prime
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minister shinzo abe of japan come to mar-a-lago as well as xi jinping from china and they both visited him and those summits were believed to be very su successful. also, high-ranking officials have traveled throughout asia and they have done an actually fairly decent job in terms of the asia pivot and establishing those better relationships. it's true that that can't be measured because nothing has come out of it just yet although it seems that relations are better. it's fair of him to make that claim. >> it does remain to be scene. erin mcpike and alex bolton, thank you. >> thank you. the president's tax plan, a lot of promises but what do we really know? some answers, next. plus, more pictures of the climate marches and rallies happening in cities across the country. look at this, the opposite of d.c.'s heat, snow on the ground in denver. are allergies holding you back?
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here's what we do know and how it could affect you. your income tax bracket could change with rates of 10, 25 and 35%. say you're a newly married couple filing jointly for the first time. if you filed today, you'd take a standard deduction of more than $12,000. under the trump plan, you would pay less in taxes. >> that was peter alexander reporting on the "today" show earlier this week. joining me is ohio senator rob portman and former staff director of finance committee on
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fiscal responsibility and growth. brian, thank you for joining me. we actually don't know much about it. >> the president only gave us a one-page summary of his goals and framework. i would say it's very strong economic and tax policy but it's actually pretty questionable budget policy. it's cutting the corporate tax rate from 35 to 15%. that's the highest in the developed world by far. it's double the tax rate charged by businesses in canada and the uk. we cannot be competitive when we're taxing our businesses twice as high as our competitor. we need to stop losing jobs and money overseas and then broaden the base in order to help pay for it. on the individual side, the key
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is simplification, simplifying the tax rate and making it easier for families to simplify. i think it's important to get the economy going. i mentioned the budget growth. $70 trillion over the next 30 years. the cause is entitlement spending but the reality is, if lawmakers aren't going to spend it, you have to pay for it at a price tag of 3 to $7 trillion is not realistic. >> all right. i want to talk about the middle class voters. simplicity would be nice but they want to pay less taxes as well. is there any guarantee that the middle class will be hit with higher taxes? >> the devil is in the details
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because the net effect on families is zero other than the hope that they get further economic growth, higher incomes, more jobs and that they'll benefit from there. beyond that, some people might see lower taxes, some people might see higher taxes. but for a lot of people in the middle class, there could be real benefits. by doubling the standard deduction for a married couple, i think a lot of families could see tax relief, especially if the north gauge interest deduction is preserved. but overall, on the individual side, it will be losers as well as winners. >> keeping on this idea of middle america you could see the wealthy get the positive benefit. are there some that don't think they will get much back and
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wealthier americans are getting a better tax break? >> americans want to see tax reform more for efficiency growth and simplicity. it's a challenge because right now we have the most progressive tax code in the entire developed world. the top 20% of taxpayers currently pay 88% of all income taxes to the federal government and 69% of the combined federal taxes to the federal government. so itsz hard to make the tax code more progressive than that. if the wealthy individuals are getting big tax cuts, that's not going to pass because that's not how the american people see tax reform. if it is a huge reduction for the rich at the expense of the middle class, it probably didn't going to go anywhere.
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>> quickly, let me ask you this, will these tax cuts pay for themselves with the kind of economic growth that they say that they will? >> there's a lot of room for growth because the economy is $2 trillion under what it should be and 4 million missing jobs among working-aged individuals. if you get them into the workforce, you get more revenues. it can pay for 20%, 30%, 40% if it's designed right and the rest of it you could try to make up for by closing loopholes and making sure that people can't just get out of taxes by having really good lawyers. you combine economic growth and closing loopholes, you can get it pretty close to deficit neutral. >> brian, thank you very much. >> thank you. ivanka trump's role in the white house, how much help does she really bring the president? plus, more pictures of the protests over climate change happening across the country. an update just ahead.
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thousands of protesters hitting the streets across the country. rain in chicago, snow in denver and blazing heat in d.c. it's kind of the full spectrum of climate possibilities for those marchers. organizers say it's aimed to voice concern about climate change on the 100th day of donald trump's presidency. a live report on this at the top of the hour. meanwhile, another big crowd to tell you about. already gathering as president trump gets ready to hold a rally in pennsylvania. has he done enough to unify the country? some answers ahead. friends. i have a great fit with my dentures. i love kiwis. i've always had that issue with the seeds getting under my denture. super poligrip free. it creates a seal of the dentures in my mouth. even well fitting dentures let in food particles just a few dabs of super poligrip free is clinically
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welcome back. i'm stephanie gosk here at msnbc world headquarters in new york. at the half hour, here's what
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we're monitoring. climate marches under way. you're looking at protesters across denver and chicago. all of this taking place in what could be a record hot day in d.c. with forecasters predicting temperatures in the low 90s. in denver, it's a day of extremes. the president is back in the state where he laid out his ten-point plan for the first 100 days in office he'll mark this presidential milestone with a rally in harrisburg, pennsylvania, tonight. jacob rascon is in harrisburg ahead of tonight's big event. and it's upset a lot of people from this city. my guess is that they are not at this rally. what kind of support is he getting here today? >> a lot of support. the rnc released a video called thank you mr. president. it's people who live in "hardball"bu harrisburg.
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many who voted for him, he's doing as well or better than they could have expected. in fact, we have one person who is here to see mr. trump, not her first time. this is jen from sugarloaf, about an hour and a half away. >> i think he's doing a good job, and he's very quiet about the things that he's done anyhow but from all of the readings i've done, he's passed a lot of legislation, he's put -- >> executive orders? >> executive orders and some things through congress and i think that -- i think that everybody has got to give him a chance and give him his due diligence, let him do his due diligence and four years will prove that he's going to do a great job for america. >> reporter: is there anything disappointing to you, the health care that failed or the fact
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that no money for the wall? >> i'm sorry that the focus has been on the negatives and enough on the positives. would i have liked to have seen heal health care, absolutely. i'm a victim of very high premiums and a very high deductible. i'd like to see something happen for that and if he needs to do tax reform first and get back on that, that's fine with me. >> reporter: what is the bar for you? i know you have expectations. what would there be that he did or did not do that would make you say, ah, i'm disappointed, i wouldn't vote for him again? >> i don't know because he's really sticking to his plan and he's really sticking to -- he's checking them off one at a time. all of the things he promised, he's working on. those are the things that i voted for him for. so i can't say that they would be anything that would cause me
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not to vote for him again unless congress and the democrats don't get together and he does not -- he's not able to get health care fixed and that kind of thing. >> reporter: fair enough. j jen, thank you so much. the first people in line, somebody who drove from new york, somebody else from florida, from ohio, they've come from far and wide to be here on this 100th day. stephanie? >> all right. jacob, that support for trump among the people who voted for him really undeterred at this point. thank you very much. the democratic party has been fitted from the trump presidency so far.
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party has ever had. >> there's nancy pelosi with a talking point we've been hearing all day as we mark president trump's 100 days in office. joining me now, noelle, republican strategist, and morris, democratic strategist noel, let's start with you. does pelosi have a point there? >> whenever you get someone that rallies your base, whether it's an anger or whatnot, you're going to solidify your base and the party. it's going to be very interesting to see with things that go forward, meaning job creation. a lot of these jobs that president trump created are union jobs. so that's going to put a different spin on it. now, if the fax reform gets simplified, you're going to see the democrats that look at this and say, well, you know what, we're able to do our tax with a simplified tax code and we like
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that, too. right now, nancy pelosi has a point. but going forward may not be the point. >> the president has been criticized for not unifying the country. >> let me address the idea that he's the best thing that's ever happened to us. that's a gift and a curse. if you're a party of resistance and you really have no message, you will stay a party of resistance and in opposition. so we have to take this energy and if we can't motivate that rally to go to the polls, we're going to lose. just because you have someone you want to rally against, you have to turn that activism into actual votes. >> i want to ask you about the president's agenda. now he's introducing tax reform
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policy. is he taking on too much at once? would he be better served on focusing on one thing and getting it through congress? >> i think given the fact that they couldn't get anything done on health reform, it seems logical to me that the mitch mcconnell, the senate majority leader, speaker ryan and donald trump should be able to sit down some trying for major reforms because we don't have the public policy or support to push major public policy because that takes a lot of communication and it's not been done. >> noelle, what's your take on that? is there a lack of communication here? is it trying to reach for these big, bold goals too much? >> you know, if we'll remember, ryan was the one that thought we should bust out of the gate with health care reform and i think a
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lot of republicans were irritated with the fact that ryan tried to push for something that he didn't really even have, you know, the votes to get it passed in the first place which put trump in a bad position because he said that he, you know, didn't want to do that first. so i think that, you know, leery of what ryan can do. with that said, they are going to have a really good chance of getting something through. the corporate tax rate can get down to 15%, simplify the tax code and this actually could be the gap that is bridged between democrats and republicans if you have something that they can agree on with tax reform. >> well, morris, let me ask you about that. many people are saying that trump has to reach across the aisles. are democrats actually feeling that happening?
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is there enough communication going on right now? >> it's a very dangerous thing for the democrats to do at this point. let me just point out one thing, because you remember in the clinton years, clinton came in with a super majority in the house and senate as well. he was more successful when the parties changed power in the house and in the senate. the democrats and republicans were working together. just because you have both chambers on the hill doesn't mean you're going to have a lot of success and my colleagues will attest to that now. with regard to some of the things that he's trying to reach across the aisle and deal with democrats, i think he stumbled. he should have led with tax reform because he could have brought democrats to the table. now after such a partisan thing with the repeal of obamacare, it's very difficult for democrats to give him a win for two reasons. one, we're almost 18 months from re-election which we don't want to make sure that we help them with the re-election and, two, they may get primaried if they start to help this republican president. >> rick, let me ask you this. morris brings it up. they were talking about the
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political climate. are we at a point where congress can't agree on anything and is that really the president's responsibility? how do we get past this? >> we have republican ma jorts. the republican party needs to decide whether it wants to be a governing party or not. it is correct that because trump's polling numbers are so low, it's hard to bring democrats aboard. if his numbers were high, 73% is where ronald reagan was on this day in his term, or barack obama, 69%, when they talked to the congress, they listen. when you're at 40%, they can listen or not listen. >> noelle, are those numbers a problem that you see for the president? >> you know, yes and no. i've got to tell you, when are we ever going to have unity? when are we ever going to elect anyone that the right and left will give a chance in we have barack obama, the right hate
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him, we have donald trump, the left hates him. are we going to ever have civility, ever have any unity for americans as a whole? >> noelle, we've had leaders in the past that have been able to bridge the partisans divide. my question to you is, is this a factor of the climate that we're in or a factor of the president himself not being able to necessarily do that? >> i think it's a factor of the climate that we're in today. i think a lot of people voted for trump because they were just frustrated, holy heck, they were tired of a do nothing congress, of everything happening and a lot of people felt like america was going down the tubes. i think out of anger, a lot of people voted for president trump and, you know, going forward, we're looking at the first 100 days and a lot of people are still wary. some of the trump supporters are saying rah, rah, this is great. the left is keeping their word of saying this is a crappy job. but going for the next 100 days if -- hopefully we will see some things done that trump had
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promised and i think that you're going to see maybe at least like rick tyler was saying, unity from the conservatives and for the other movements within the republican party so at least they can come together as a whole. >> well, listen, i have to disagree with -- i have to disagree with that, because it starts from the top. the president has to want to work across the aisles to get things done. mitch mcconnell said his objective was to get barack obama out. we saw them do this with newt gingrich. it's about the leader of the free world working across the aisle. we have republicans and democrats and trump folks and the freedom caucus. so many different folks. the president needs to get an agenda that can bring everyone to the table and he has to bend arms, slap backs with everyone to push the ball forward. until the president wants to do that, we will continue to have this disarray in our political system. >> rick, i am going to turn to
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ivanka trump and get your take on this. she attended a summit in germany focused on empowering women. here's part of an op-ed in "the washington post." "when she plays with the role of a public official, she demeans the public servants who take their jobs seriously who acquire them through expertise and competition, who work for sallies and obey ethics laws. is that really fair? >> probably not. it's a little over the top. but look, ivanka trump is the president's daughter that's inescapable. she's at a women's conference with many successful women and ivanka is successful in her own right. she is where she is because she's the president's daughter. she didn't become an adviser to the president on her own. and so in the european model, they just didn't have the model for that. they wanted to know, you know, are you successful because you're the president's daughter or are you successful because you're successful?
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and the question wasn't really answered. and then when she tried to talk about her father being a champion of women's rights, which went over poorly and then people booed and hissed, i kind of feel for her and she will do fine. i think she's very capable. but it's a problem with the administration where the president is relying on people that he's trusted his whole life, his family, and not advisers that he brings in that actually have skill sets for the job. >> and it does to some degree sound like an unfair piling on but those points are worth raising. thank you all for joining me. noelle, morris and rick. >> thanks so much. the guest of honor missing from a huge party in washington tonight. what to expect now that president trump isn't attending the white house correspondents' dinner. for your pet, you should know more about the food you choose. with beyond, you have a natural pet food that goes beyond telling ingredients to showing where they come from.
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an annual tradition continues tonight without donald trump. he's missing the white house correspondents' dinner. it will still go on. ali vitali is joining me. you spoke so samantha bee. what did she say? >> that's right. we had a little talk right before she went in. she had a message for president trump as well as explained to me why we're here tonight. take a look. >> we've routinely dismantled trump on our show. we don't feel the need to do that tonight. that's our show right now but we do need to celebrate the journalists that make our show possible so that's why we are throwing a party for them. i hope they show up. >> if there was a message for president trump, what would that be? >> have a great rally. you deserve it. you have earned it.
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>> reporter: of course you see there's a two-prong goal. the white house correspondents' dinner is going on in washington. s samantha bee has been skewering the president and attacking and in talking to other attendees, people who live in the late night political kind of world, that's really the goal here tonight, too. they are here to kind of laugh at president trump and make levity of the situation but also a celebration of journalism. >> let me ask you, ali, are you getting that same kind of dripping sarcasm from the other people that you're talking to? >> reporter: yeah, but it's not a dripping sarcasm. the people were serious about talking about the state of
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political affairs. they feel it's a very important time for truth telling, for fact checking, things that are our organization and other media organizations have really focused on always in the age of trump but in the administrations prior to that. this is shining a new light on the need for media organizations for that and a lot of attendees were funny. that's their line of work. there is serious respect here that this is a need for journalism and we're here to celebrate that as well. >> thank you, ali vitali. >> thanks. >> joining me is amy pointer. you heard about the rise and fall or maybe the rebirth of the white house correspondents' dinner. this is the first time since 1981 that a president has skipped the white house correspondents' dinner. what does this say about the president's relationship with the press? >> well, the president's relationship with the press is not great. there's been a lot of animosity. he's used the press as his
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punching bag very much on the campaign trail and since he's been in office. and a punching bag at the time that they roasted him and it's not entirely surprising that he might want to take a pass on this dinner this particular year. >> everyone is expecting it to be more subdued with fewer celebrities. is it his absence that is deterring the presence? is it on the decline? >> i'll be honest, if trump was in attendance, you also would have seen that decline, even before he said he wasn't going to come. you had the big corporate organizations that typically throw big parties around this
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saying they weren't going to do anything this year. and the hollywood community is not a fan of donald trump. it became early on that it was going to be a different kind of dinner. if you talk to the typical washington journalist, they are dismayed that the president isn't there. they are also a little glad, though, that we don't have the hollywood group that we've had over the years, that there aren't as many big parties going on it's not been a great look ethically. the fact that the volume is coming down on this thing has been a relief to journalists i've talked to. >> does it go back through a boring journalism dinner?
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>> in recent years, it was such a hot ticket that journalists couldn't get tickets. people who covered the white house couldn't get tickets for it. this year, you'll have more journalists per square foot than ever before and a lot of them are glad about that. >> any chance you think that the president shows up next year? >> i think it's very possible. i mean, who's to say? >> he changes his mind. >> he does. and i noted that even though he'll be at his rally in harrisburg, he should be home in time to be in front of his tv and watching when the speeches come on tonight at the white house correspondents' dinner so maybe he'll tweet about it. >> oh, almost undoubtedly, you would expect. amy, thank you so much for joining me. >> thank you. that wraps up this hour of msnbc live. i'm stephanie gosk. up next, yasmin yousafzai speaks with a coal miner in the effort to find the new jobs. whoa, this thing is crazy.
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hello, everyone. i'm yasmin yousafzai in new york on this 100th day of the trump administration. thousands of people from coast to coast are protesting the policies on climate change. less than a mile from the white house, the president will be at the white house much longer today. he's heading to pennsylvania about two hours from now, from what he's t ouchouting as a bigy on the same night as the white house correspondents' dinner. it's an event that will not go without the current president. we have this covered from angle to angle with reports at the capitol mall and the white house and where the rally kicks off later this evening. we begin today with today's climate change marches. the goal is to address issues such as climate change, jobs and


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