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george w. bush was a little lower at this point, but it took him a six-week delay because it was disputed election. most important number is 556. m trtp daily starts right now. >> if it's tuesday, it's a prescription for chaos. tonight, shut down showdown. the white house throws down the gauntlet of moving the agenda forward. >> if you wanted to imagine the shut down, it fixes the town. >> both sides of the aisle about the wild swings on funding. plus, miami blues. could the son and retirement of congresswoman signal a turning tight for democrats to win back the house. and later, keeping up with chuck todd. >> let's start with the
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kardashians. can you name all five of the girls and maybe put them in order? >> are you kidding me? >> this is "mtp daily" and it starts now. >> welcome to "mtp daily" the white house backed health care bill is teetering on the brink of collapse again. the house backed government bill is facing resistance from inside the republican party, making matters worse, president trump is seemingly all over the map on both issues. now he is advocating to shut down the government to change the rules so his party can consolidate power. here's how the day began. president trump slammed the deal, the reason for the plan negotiated between the republicans and democrats is we need 60 votes in the senate which are not there. we elect more republican
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senators in 2o 18 or change the rules now to 51%. our country needs a good shut down in september to fix mess. the white house doubled down on the president's statements. >> the senate is requiring 60 votes on every appropriations bill that is forcing this discussion about continuing resolutions that are a bad way to run the government and shutdowns are not productive. it's not a goal and a associating tool. but to the extend the president vocated for one. that's one that fixes the town. >> all of this stems from a funding deal that the president criticized and then touted as a massive victory for him. >> this bill is a clear win for the american people. we brought lawmakers together from both sides of the aisle to deliver a budget that funds the rebuilding of the united states military makes historic
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investments in border security and provides health care for our miners and school choice for our disadvantaged children. this is what winning looks like. are there is a noticeable decide on the deal. >> i feel very good about the wins we got with the administration in the bill. >> i don't know if i'm going to vote for the bill they will present to the senate. >> why? >> the democrats cleaned our clock. there are things that i just don't understand. this was not winning from the republican point of view. >> to make matters worse, they threaten to derail the second attempt at a health care deal in the house. 21 house republicans have stated their opposition to it. at least 18 are undecided. if just two of them oppose the deal, it is dead. the president's position on this is all over the map.
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yesterday he seemed to tell bloomberg news it wasn't ready for prime time. he wanted it to be good for sick people. it is not in the final form right now. the comments came as president trump was phoning hold outs to get them on board. today the white house dispatched mike pence to twist arms. the president's conflicting stances are likely not making life easier for gop leadership, but speaker paul ryan insisted that president trump is not hindering the effort. >> the president has been nothing but helpful. he is helping for a lot of the members. we are making good progress and the president has been instrumental in that. >> joe man chin from west virginia joins us. you are from trump country. if this health care plan does in fact make it through the house, is it something that you will be able to support in the senate?
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>> no, i can't. i have been very honest with everybody. you talk about repeal, 172,000 west virginians who got health care for the first time are working people. they are working in a situation where they don't have health care provided. they got it this time. that's something you will take away from them. that doesn't work. if we can get everyone to say we can repair that. there is not a democrat i know of that doesn't think it can be improve and repaired. if you repeal it, can't start it over. that's not going to work. it doesn't work. >> describe a bill that you could support. >> if you sit down and work with it, 20 million people got health care for the first time and never paid for it. they didn't get one word of instructions about how they should use responsibilities they have. there is a tremendous amount of
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efficiency and savings. in the priflt markvate market, joe, i'm working and doing fairly well. i have to buy my own insurance and pay a 7 or 8 or $10,000 a year and a $5,000 deductible. it's the same as having no experience that they are paying $15,000 out of pocket before they get assistance. that's the market we can. we have to work on that and we can't get an honest discussion because the repeal part about it is setting down as a pathway foard. i can get 10 or 12 democrats to sit down with my republican friends. if we can look on repairing it before you throw it out? >> after all, this repeal discussion and debate is taking place in the house. you are in the senate and why not sit down with the colleagues
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and craft your own version. >> i'm trying. we have been trying and have spoken back and forth. can you say i'm going to try to fix this before we throw it out. i don't know if that's a political promise and they are all weighted to that. i don't know. he said i don't think i can get anybody to go along with with. if you can get me republican senators who say let's work through this how we move on the private market and how we move on the risk and how we get preventive care and how we are able to keep the things we agree on because there is no guarantee any of that can be kept. there is no guarantee. >> what's the hold up? why won't they talk about it? >> you have to ask them. i don't know. if you have been chanting repeal, repeal and getting elected because you said you would do away with obamacare, i
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said this to president trump. we spoke about a month or two ago. i said mr. president, in west virginia there is i lot of people that got helped by this legislation in the affordable care act. they don't know how they got it and they don't know that the democrats or president obama might be the reason they got it. they have no idea, but they will know who took it away. i will assure you they will know that. before you go down that way of repealing everything, let's sit down. you are supposed to be the mr. fix it president. let's fix it and repair it. that can be done. >> let's talk about government funding. there is a deal in place. the white house is trying to spin it in their favor by saying it's a down payment and forhe border wall and a bigin for republicans. there is no money specifically going towards the border wall in this bill. if it does come to the senate and you are presented with that deal for a vote, is that something that you will support?
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>> the bottom line is that we have a piece of legislation which our immigration bill was bipartisan. democrats and republicans working and voting together to secure our borders. they need to be secured. and we had an awful lot of attention and money put towards that. and a pathway forward. get rid of the people that committed crimes and came for the wrong reason or came here and committed a crime. they should be sent out. we kbrea on that. basically you can't say you are going to be making or building a wall and i said this. if that's the priorities you have, that's okay. let mexico pay for it. i can't go home to virginia and the people that are basically just fundamental functions that are needed saying that we will spend money on and they will pay us back. that's a hard sell. >> i want to ask about the
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russian investigation. members of the intelligence committee took the bus to langley to get intelligence briefing. we checked in on the bus. you were not on that bus. first of all, did you end up going to the meeting with different transportation? >> i had a conflict today, but i will be getting that briefing tomorrow. >> can you give us an idea of what that encompasses? that are that are poots revealing more information has been turned over to show the full committee, the brought base of this and how much there is and what different actions and what different direction or continue down the same direction we are going now. bringing people in and building the case and trying to find out what we have before you bri in some of the top players. some of those people. i think the senate intelligence
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is methodically going about their business the same as it should be to get the facts in place. they are not sensationalizing it and it's not a show horse. they are trying to get the work done that they can lay out a pathway for. >> the president questioned whether russia was behind the medaling and said it could have been china. is there any doubt that russia was behind this? >> no doubt in my mind. everything we have been able to see and you reported that we can talk about that russia definitely was involved. russia was involved more intensely this past election cycle than ever before. we see no evidence that any of the votes were changed or the out come would have been different. with that being said, we are seeing him involved in paris and germany and could they have done more harm to us and are they waiting to do harm at a later date, we can't let that happen. >> appreciate your time. >> thanks for having me.
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>> amid the debate, the health care debate went viral after this emotional monologue from jimmy kimmel about his newborn son battling heart problems. >> before 2014, if you were born with heart disease like my son was, there was a good chance you could never get health insurance because you had a preexisting condition. if your baby is going to die and doesn't have to, it shouldn't matter how much money you make. that's something whether you are a republican or democrat or something else, we all agree on that, right? we do. >> i'm joined by republican congressman jim jordan of ohio who is a member of the house freedom caucus. what is your reaction to that monologue? >> we do all agree on that and the legislation makes sure we have a safety net provision called a high risk pool and allocate$125 billion to make sure they can take care of the
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situation that mr. kimmel was describing with his young son. we all agree that should be the case, but we also want to bring down premiums for middle class families. what the waiver option does is allow those states to get rid of the regulations that are driving up the cost for middle class families. the cost that the senator was talking about. $7,000 they are paying for a deductible in a year's time. they can't afford the deductible and they want that to come down as well as protect the situation that they were talking about. >> the senator will not support the bill as it is now if it makes it to the senate. we should note that. on the high risk pools notion and on preexisting conditions, there is a lot of serious concern that your bill waters down protections for preexisting conditions and it comes from a lot of different places.
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your conservative colleagues are saying this. this is coming from representative bill long of missouri. the american medical association said it's worried as well. saying although the amendment states the ban remains intact, this assurance may be illouisry as underwriting could make coverage unaffordable to people with preexisting conditions. the kaiser foundation said the same thing. how can you say you are right and they are wrong. >> read the bill. they said that specific line. preexisting conditions are covered. we have $125 billion in the bill to help with this situation. we set up high risk pools and the safety net provisions. you can't be kicked off and changed at a higher rate when a serious illness happenso you
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or your family. what's in the bill is the yet that we have on repeal obamacare. that's what we ran on and what the election was about. we have to get at the key regulations that are driving up the cost for everybody in the insurance market. driving up for working class families. we are trying to do both of these. it is not full repeal. this is not what we were elected to do, but it's a step in the right direction when it gets to the senate and we will do more to make sure it gets to full repeal. >> i think the numbers show 17% of voters say they are confident in your plan? >> what we left with the voters said we would repeal obamacare. we had three big elections where this was a central issue. i think that's what we have to do. this bill doesn't get there. we are giving states the waiver
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option. it's a huge step in the right direction. >> can you guarantee their health care will not be more expensive, period? >> for ohio is the state that gets the waiver, i believe that health care policy experts believe premiums will come down. that's why we need the waiver. i would like to do it here, but we don't have the votes for that. we are trying to get the votes that give this waiver option. >> the white house said you have the votes, but we show you are two votes short of losing this bill. are you confident you will get the two votes? there are a lot of undecideds out there. >> with the freedom caucus, we brought 20 something new votes to the yes column. we are working with our colleagues to encourage them to support it. it's a good step in the right direction. >> did they help or hurt the cause and the health care plan
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was not in the final form and it has to be good for sick people. >> i think the president is stating the facts that we like you and i -- >> he said it was not in the final form. is it being negotiated? >> not in the house. there is some negotiation, but maybe until it winds up on his desk. you concerned they are taking this bill so far to the right it will be completely unwinnable for the senate. is it going to make it much more moderate. why not do do it before it gets to the senate? >> we told the american people. >> is it just about fulfilling a promise or making health care better? >> it's about doing what we said. we are supposed to do what we said. never forget what obamacare brought us. all the misinformation. like your doctor, keep your doctors.
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premiums will decline and website is going to work. website is secure. the co-ops will be wonderful. all the false information. that's the context we are in. we very to get rid of this. this doesn't fully do that. it's a step in the right direction. >> does it concern you that the majority of americans want to keep obamacare? >> what are concerns me is what the voters elected us to do in 2010, 2014, and 2016 where this was a central issue of the campaign. certainly the foters in the fourth district know where i stand and that's what i am trying to accomplish. >> thank you for joining me. >> thank you. >> president trump's conversations today with another authoritarian leader. keep it here. still be pain. it comes when your insurance company says they'll only pay three-quarters of what it takes to replace it. what are you supposed to do? drive three-quarters of a car?
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>> to have been a fly on the wall in the white house this afternoon. they called the conversation a very good and said the topics included syria to north korea to mideast terrorism. according to the white house. they talked about setting up a meeting in germany in july though nothing has been solidified. this was president trump's first conversation since the u.s. launched cruise missiles by the syrian period on his own people. that caused a rift with moscow that supports assad and just last month, rex tillerson described the relationship between the two countries at a low point. no word if they discussed the multiple investigations in russia's multiple attempts to interfere with the election. we'll be right back.
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>> ozzy, react to congressman jordan. >> they want to get rid of the regulations and that will drive down cost. what he did not discuss was the fact that some of those regulations he wanted to get rid of would require essential health benefits like a cancer patient getting health care, but not having chemotherapy be part of the that coverage. what's the point? the other part is he includes a guarantee that the people get charged the statement amount. if you get rid of those two p provisions, you might have health care being more experience.
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they will not remember who gave them insurance, but who took it away. >> is this about passing something and not necessarily passing something that the people want or that will be good for the country? >> i think at this point it's looking like political theater because even in this makes it through the house and that's a huge if. i don't think they will get the votes to pass the bill. it has to make it through the senate. the senator said it would not make it through the senate in the current form. there has to be a compromise. >> i asked about that. if it's going to get more moderate in the senate, why not do it now? >> that's a good question. the problem is they have seen that you can't get the freedom caucus votes you need. the problem with this bill from the beginning is they don't have enough policy experts giving them provisions that will help people. this is all about politics and saying we ran on repealing obamacare. they have the big l with the
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first version of trump care and they are trying to save face. it's more about ego. >> and a really important point is president trump's point in all of this. he doesn't know what the policy is that he is supposed to be pushing. that wasritica to the failure in round one. the same applies in round two when we don't know what is going on. >> do you think the president was misleading people or did he not know what was in the bill? >> i think he doesn't know what he is putting out there? >> which is worse? >> katie, these questions. >> i'm sorry. >> good thing you want a new president. >> if the house doesn't pass it and they can't get it through, is the repealing and replacing dead? >> for now. they didn't go about it the right way. it took a long time to pass obamacare. you have to make the case to the
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american people and get enough approval to get the senators and the house folks on board so they didn't feel like they were taking a risky vote. they haven't done any of the ground work. >> it doesn't mean trump will stop talking about it. this could fail and he will see chuck schumer did this and obamacare this. >> of course. >> the democrats are doing a victory lap over it saying they got a lot of what they wanted and lindsay graham agrees with it and the president agrees and disagrees. he said the system needs to be reformed and 60% and also this was wonderful and i got everything i wanted and it's a down payment on the wall. mixed messaging. does that work now that he is president. >> i think it works with the core supporters. maybe 40% of people who are not going to move and are sticking by president trump. they have invested so much in him that they do want to see him
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succeed. it's a tenuous question of bringing in other supporters. you look at is this the blueprint and the "new york times" had a great story on how this came together. it wasn't because of the white house. democrats and republicans had bypassed the white house. >> this deal, is it going to look a lot different come september 30th? >> you saw trump's tweets and he is reacting to the fact that the democrats are responsible here and we worked with republicans across the aisle to come to a consensus and president trump wants to be the center of attention and wants to seem like he is the grand negotiator that is coming to the table and getting everyone to come to the table and come to a deal and he was not part of this. if he feels some kind of way. >> is the government shut down good? >> for trump, yes. he needs drama and attention. >> it's good? >> for trump's purposes and
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talking points. he needs too identify an opponent whether it's congress or democrats or media. >> congress is a great opponent for him because more of the country dislikes congress as a unified body. if he attacks them and makes congress look incompetent, that's not good for him. >> congress is run by republicans differently than when obama was period. republicans are in charge. they have to make it happen. >> how is it good if the republican congress can't get the republican agenda done. >> it shows they are dysfunctional.place is bad. >> how do you say i'm the deal maker and i'm the best and i can do something nobody has and i could stop the civil war from happening if you can't get a deal done. >> he's like a parent in a car getting arrest and the only way
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to get to the next exit is to speed up. if there is a good spending deal that doesn't include him, he will call it bad. get attention and speed up to the next exit and say i got us someplace better even if it's off the map. >> it feels like i'm in a speeding car. >> without a atbelt. >> you should always wear a seatbelt. stay with us. we will come back to you later. democrats doing house flipping in 2018. is there a path to victory for them. we will look at the best shots to gain ground, ahead. david. what's going on? oh hey! ♪ that's it? yeah. ♪ everybody two seconds! ♪ "dear sebastian, after careful consideration of your application, it is with great pleasure that we offer our congratulations on your acceptance..." through the tuition assistance program,
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passengers. up next, will republican retirements win back the house in 2018? here's hampton pearson with market wrap. >> stocks closing slightly higher with apple leading to another record close and finishing up by 36 points and the s&p gaining two and nasdaq closing higher. cash reserve swelling to $256.84 billion. shares falling however 1% after earnings beat expectations, but fell short on revenue as the company sold fewer iphone. automakers posting weak sales. ford gave up 4.4%. investors watching for comments on the economic slow down as the fed wraps up the two-day policy meeting tomorrow. that's it from cnbc first in business worldwide. i realize that ah, that $100k is not exactly a fortune.
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>> welcome back. we have a saying you might have heard. if it's tuesday, someone is voting somewhere. that is south carolina. republican and democratic primers to fill the seat when mull vaina director. it's likely the republicans will hold on to the seat in this deep red district, but can democrats win back the seats? they lost house in the 50 mid-term every time except 2002. democrats are trying to take back the house in several special elections, but could get the biggest boost by republicans or republican retirements in democratic leaning districts. they got a major opportunity to pick up a seat when florida
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republican congresswoman announced she will not be seeking another term. in 2016, she defended her democratic challenger by 10 points while hillary clinton won by almost 20 points. the political report is categorizing that district as lean democratic. joining me now is the house editor. david, how big of i deal is it for retirement to open up 103 days into the new administration. >> if democrats can pick one republican, it would have been ross. they are moving towards the democratic party at a blistering piece and it's in miami. you have younger cubans and upscale whites. all of whom are moving away from the national republican brand. here's a dramatic shift and the
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question is whether it's the start of something or whether we will see more republicans in marginal districts or whether it's a one off. >> do you think it could be because there are a lot of moderate republicans that are worried about potential challengers and won't stand up to them? >> when democrats lost the house, we saw the start of the wave with democratic retirements in republican-leaning seats. a lot of blue dogs retiring and that was the beginning of an exodus of conservative democrats that left open a lot of seats. to really build a wave where democrats mht be able to take back control of the house,hey have a favorable environment. the democratic base is fired up. republicans are having trouble building accomplish ams to sell to their own base. they need two things. the first is retirements of
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republicans like ross and if democrats can gets en similar members to retire, that would be good news for them. and the election is a year away, democrats will have more candidates than they know what to do with. >> what are the chances that they will be able to retake the house? >> they thi have 23 republicans in districts that voted for hillary clinton. they need to reach into trump country. i would put the odds somewhere between 40 and 50% because in these kinds of situations when you have a president that is this unpopular and republican base that is this demoralized, but not only that, a lot of trump voters don't hold the
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republicans in high hard. will they show up in 2018 even if they showed up in 2016. that's a question that is making a lot of republicans nervous. >> what are you keeping an eye on? >> we are looking at upscale districts that trump only won by narrow margins or lost narrowly. republicans who ordinarily have races in illinois and these are all going to be targets in november. >> talk about georgia. we have j o sof and that vote is coming up in june. they are neck and neck. $30 million was the last tally in terms of ad spending down there. what are o sof's chances some. >> a lot of democrats would wish they had his money, but democrats are not going to be
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able to fund every candidate to this extent. he has a very good chance in the run off. it's a tie ball game for the june 20th run off. i'm not going to put too much stock on the out come if it's close. what we know is if this race is close in a district that went republican for house by over 20 points in 2016, even if it went narrowly for trump, we know the house will be in play. if trump's approval rating persists in the low 40s, that is typically the kind of place that spells trouble where you have alarm bells for the control of the house in a mid-term. >> never too early to watch out for an election year. appreciate your time. >> elizabeth warren discusses the path forward and how would
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ultimately did her in. i saw the enthusiasm from the trump supporters. it's fair to argue she took a polling. i don't know. she didn't go to michigan. she didn't go to wisconsin. i think he outcampaigned her in so many states. he did so many more visits than she did. is it fair to say that the comey letter was ultimately what sunk her? >> yes. you can look at the data. if you are being looking at the trajectory of the polling before the comey letter, there is a drop off and it came out in the middle of early vote voting. if you are trying to exercise your strategy and get to the polls and that letter comes out and they were alluding to the possible indictment and she going to be in jail. that of course is going to have an impact. i would say she is right to target misogyny as a reason why
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she lost the election, but i want to say that the russian hack was a big factor. in terms of the timing of the release of the e-mails. it wasn't just the hack itself. it's the fact that right after the comes out the next day is the first batch of podesta e-mails. the first day of the dnc, another batch of podesta e-mails. the last month before the election, podesta e-mails, 2000 of them, came out every single maria sharapo morning. >> do you maybe go back and campaign differently? none of it mattered, that they wouldn't go to michigan more, they wouldn't go to wisconsin? >> i'm not saying that. i'm saying there were certain calculations made based on internal polling which turned out to be incorrect. if youee intnal polling that says you're up in michigan and you're making that call where to allocate resources you'll go to a state where it's closer, like north carolina, pennsylvania. i think people want do overs, but i don't think we can say it's all on her personal
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failings or it's all this one reason. we have to remember she won 3 million more votes. a lot of the analysis is going to be a little bit off. >> i want to get to ozzie. i think i want to do it with the ladies. >> please. >> do you think misogyny played a role in hillary clinton's loss? >> absolutely. i went to battle ground states prior to the election and it really was shocking to me that in this day and age so much blame was put on hillary clinton for being a strong woman who had clear ideas about what she wanted and also how much blame she continues to get from voters because of bill clinton's transgressions. she is blamed for the affairs -- >> trump tried to paint her as an enabler. >> his supporters totally bought into that. >> it's incredibly sad in 2016 that still was an issue and women are still seen as the cause of a strained husband when bill clinton was the one who originally wronged her. >> and i will say this.
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we saw unmentionable t-shirts at the rallies. not only prison gear, hillary sucks. just these things that were incredibly out there. >> yes. >> that being said, trump had a lot of momentum. he had a lot of enthusiasm. he was derailed during the access hollywood tape certainly. >> right. >> this gave him new life. are you convinced that hillary clinton would have won had there not be the reemergence of the comey letter? >> she had a much better chance before the comey letter came out. obviously then afterwards. with respect to whether or not misogyny played a role and what role, the fact that it even gets asked, the fact she's the first candidate, the fact she was there on the national stage for a quarter of a century. >> right. >> this is the first person and we have to sit around ask wonder about it. the fact there were not more than one female candidate vying for this. you really get to wonder, you know, the fact that we all
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celebrate the first person that sort of crosses the line. and what's sad is that that first person has to be celebrated, that there is not more of a challenge of five or six people who are competing in this kind of arena, that people don't say, look, we have a catholic that's running. look, we have a mormon that's running. the idea you have to celebrate and wave the flag, a national moment we've never had something like this before, hillary clinton's campaign is going to lead to many more women stepping forward and running for higher office who didn't think they could. now, the fact that some of her supporters, like you said, were saying, bill clinton did something and she was a part of it, is head scratching. donald trump supporters believe him irrespective of everything else. hassan said it correctly at the white house correspondent's dinner, they trust him more than they trust t truth. >> i don't think i disagree with that. she also talked about russian interference and i want to play a byte from that. let's take a listen.
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>> well, he certainly -- [ laughter ] >> -- interfered in our election. and it was clear he interfered to hurt me and help my opponent. if you chart my opponent and his campaign's statements, they quite coordinated with the goals that that leader who shall remain nameless had. >> so, when she's saying "he" she's talking about vladimir putin and claiming that the trump campaign did coordinate. that's kind of a big deal. >> i think there is some evidence to show that that's true. in terms of the timing of the e-mail releases, it wasn't -- it wasn't just that they're hacking and it's like we're going to dump all the e-mails. they released the bernie e-mails. where were the martin o'malley e-mails? there was some benefit to trump. i don't think it was to elicit, it was discord ant. >> last word?
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>> i really don't think there is some far-reaching plot. i doubt that the trump campaign was that capable of anything that complicated. but we need an investigation to find out and just figure out what happened. >> ozzie, they drowned you out. >> it was worth it. >> it was about misogyny. even this. >> thank you guys very much. after the break, chuck todd on politics and pop culture. stay tuned. [ dog whimpers ] man: let's go! man #2: we're not coming out! man #1: [ sighs ] flo: [ amplified ] i got this. guys, i know being a first-time homeowner is scary,
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in case you missed it, chuck has gone hollywood, or at least access hollywood. take a look. >> you grilled the president. >> the answer is always trump. >> it's time for us to grill you. >> let's start with the kardashians. can you name all five of the girls, and maybe put them in order, kardashian jenner? >> are you kidding me? >> it begins with a k. >> that's all i got. let me get kim out of the way. >> yes. >> that's pretty much as far as he got. turns out chuck does not know his kardashian trivia. can you really blame him? he was a little more in his element last night when the k word was korea. >> look, on north korea, it's not as if what bush and obama did worked. >> right. >> so, and, you know, if somehow in five years he somehow can -- we get to a point where north korea is letting people in and inspecting the nukes, well, all right, it was a different strategy, but it might have worked. >> right.
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>> or thermo nuclear war. one or the other. >> always end on a laugh. [ laughter ] >> we will take that safe advice and end on a laugh as well. chuck will be back in the mtp daily anchor chair tomorrow where i think we can safely predict there will not be any kardashian questions. that's all for tonight. for the record with greta starts right now. i hear there is a government shut down that's being threatened, greta. >> there is, katey, but i'm not sure i'd cut ought the kardashian questions tomorrow night. there is a chance, there is a chance. thank you, kate yes. >> thank you, greta. >> tonight washington turned upside down. does trump want a government shut down or not? the president saying things on fire when he took to twitter and tweeted about the government spending bill. quote, the reason for the plan negotiated between the republicans and democrats is we need 60 votes in the senate which are not there. we either elect more republican senators in 2018 or change the rules, allowing 51%. our country

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