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following their joint statements. this is the first meeting the two have it. >> that's it for us, we're out of time, thanks for watching this hour of "msnbc live." see you. >> we're going to see you tomorrow, though. >> i'm going to see you later on, 3:00. >> you see him all day long. i'll see you tomorrow at 12:30. now let's send you back down to d.c. with peter alexander who is hosting andrea mitchell reports. thanks so much. good day to you i'm peter alexander in this afternoon for andrea mitchell. president trump and south korean president moon just wrapping up their remarks in the rose garden. president moon pledging to stand with the united states to put pressure on north korea to stop north korea's nuclear threat. among the headlines we just heard, president trump said the relationship between the two is the cornerstone of peace and security in that dangerous part of the world. he referred to north korea as a menace, saying the regime there was both brutal and reckless and said it had no respect for human life. my colleague, kelly o'donnell, is at the white house in the
rose garden on what was certainly a hot day there. and there are some tensions in that region as well. we just heard from the president trying to show this close relationship between these two new leaders talk about what you found significant and why this matters so much. >> reporter: no trade deficit on sweat or sunscreen here in the rose garden today, peter. this is a strong statement from both leaders about the intention that this new relationship with two leaders, new to their offices, and with a lot of common issues, is something they both want to work on forcefully. you heard president moon call president trump determined and pragmatic. you heard president trump thank the south korean president for his commitment to trade as well as work on the north korean nuclear situation. in addition, concern about the recent loss of life of otto warmbier, the young man who was a student who was held captive in north korea and recently died due to his injuries.
the cause of his injuries still unknown. on a personal level, on an international level, on an economic level, a real bond here. you also heard president moon talking about the fact he has invited president trump to visit south korea along with first lady melania trump. that idea of a trip to asia, which we had some expectation of this year, we have a bit more to flesh that out now with the president going there personally. the president talked about his expectation the two teams of staff who are working on trade specifics are in the room doing that hard work now. and he has an expectation there will be something that will merit signatures soon. it comes, of course, at the time when the president is under scrutiny for his use of twitter. at the same time, when you have a world leader who chooses to make his first trip to the united states as he became the leader of south korea, the kind of scale of that, the importance of that, the white house today
very decidedly tried to stage enough events with the oval office, then the cabinet room and now this joint meeting in the rose garden as a way to show the prominence, but noticeably no questions. typically when we're in the rose garden with a foreign leader there are two questions for each of the press corps and that didn't happen today. you heard shouted questions the president chose not to answer those on a couple of topics related to his tweets and the situation in north korea. the president declined. i'm certain he could hear the questions in that moment he just simply said thank you and left the rose garden. so an important day for the trump presidency as well as the new leadership of president moon. some very serious issues on the table, and at the same time, the distractions surround the trump white house based on the president's use of twitter. the white house says are official statements of the u.s.
government. >> striking to some of the world's great democracies, not taking questions today but emphasizing the tight relationship they share. kelly o'donnell in the rose garden. joining us now, ambassador christopher hill, the former u.s. ambassador to south korea. he's also the dean of the school of international studies at the university denver. victor chaw joining us as well, senior advisor and korea chair of the center for strategic and international studies. gentlemen, thanks for being here. victor to you out of the gates, we just heard from the president referring to north korea as a brutal regime, a reckless regime. the past presidents of south korea in the not too distant past have been pro u.s. in terms of their position. a little bit of a change in tack from this south korean president. tell us about that and why that makes this relationship at this
time so important. >> so the current president, moon jae-in is the first politically progressive president in ten years in south korea. when we say progressive in south korea, this refers specifically to the north korea issue. where administrations like moon's in the past have advocated engagement with north korea, carrots, rather than sticks as the primary way of dealing with the regime. there are many expectations that president moon will follow that path. thus far, in his statements, and in his meetings with president trump, he's pretty much stuck to the same position that the united states and other allies in the region have with regard to north korea, which is really to focus on sanctions and pressure given that north korea has been on the nuclear testing and missile testing warpath since president trump has been elected. the purpose of those sanctions is not to collapse the regime but to try to put enough
pressure on them so they come back to the negotiating table, such that, you know, ideas that moon may have with regard to engagement or even ideas that trump may have with regard to engagement could be tried at that time. but no one really expects to try those things now when north korea is, you know, has murdered u.s. citizens and is testing missiles and nuclear weapons. >> and ambassador hill, perhaps the headline in terms of the comments from the u.s. president where when he said today that the era of strategic patience with north korea has failed. what do you make of that statement right now as we have a president here who is engaged in a global challenge, frankly, across the world, trying to figure out how best to sort of crack down on this nuclear threat? >> by all accounts, this visit has gone very well and we saw our president staying entirely on script. some of the problems we've seen with these other visits, whether it's angela merkel or others
have -- were evidently not there. i mean, i think it's really gone well. the president was able to go through his speech, which includes burden sharing where south korea should do more on mutual defense and trade. and of course a clear statement on north korea. for his part, president moon, who comes at this as professor cha suggested, from a different perspective. i think really chose to emphasize the close relationship with the u.s. so i think it's gone very well, of course, the question will be the specifics. but of all the sort of train wreck type things that could have happened in a meeting of the new presidents, it's gone very well. now the question will be what are we going to do about north korea? is there a path towards negotiation that gets toward denuclearization. a lot of work to do.
but i think a pretty good start here. >> i want to ask you about the options that present themselves to the u.s. right now. here was
the national security advisor, hr mcmaster addressing the threat. >> the most immediate threat is the threat from north korea, which is on the threshold of having nuclear weapons that can target the united states. the threat is much more immediate now, and so it's clear that we can't repeat the same approach, failed approach of the past. and the second is the recognition that previous approaches have not worked. and so the definition of insanity would be to continue to do the same thing and expect a different result. >> so baambassador hill, what options present themselves to the u.s.? >> the president made clear that the obama strategic patience idea, that's gone. and i don't think we've ever heard the president speak without taking a swipe at obama.
so that was that. but i think what we're going to see is an effort, really, to work with the chinese and sth south koreans as well as the japanese. as you recall the president had a good meeting with prime minister abe. in fact, prime minister abe, president trump and president moon will be meeting soon when they attend the g20 summit in germany in early july. we'll see them keeping the door in for negotiations. but also maybe some efforts at the space between war and peace to see what could be done to really slow down those nuclear programs in north korea whether through some sort of cyber attack or something else. i mean, there's got to be some more direct efforts to slow them down. because i think looming over all of this, even all this sort of nice meeting today, is the fact that the north koreans have given zero signal that they're ready for any kind of negotiation except as a nuclear power to another nuclear power.
>> most eyes will be focusing on what was said in the rose garden, they're keeping a close eye in pyongyang. what should we be anticipating in terms of reaction from kim jong-un? >> i think north korea is going to react, you know, this is -- as chris said, this was a very good summit. and the north koreans are going to react. our own research shows that north korea does react to u.s. south korean summits usually within two weeks. in addition to this, the new variable is that just yesterday the department of treasury announced sanctions against a chinese bank for their relationships with north korea. so we are moving from the point of where we are both working with china to try to solve this problem to also treating china as part of the problem in that their banks, their nationals and some of their entities are facilitating illegal trade for north korea. and so i think we're going to see that aspect of it, too, and
it's going to create tension in the u.s./china relationship. >> gentlemen, thank you and have a great holiday weekend. >> thank you. donald trump and the russian president vladmir putin, they will meet next week at the g20 economic summit in germany. this is the first meeting between these two leaders since president trump took office. of course, one of the primary questions here is will president trump bring up moscow's meddling in the u.s. election. joining me now now is ambassador nick burns, the former undersecretary of state for political affairs and now a professor at harvard's kennedy school. ambassador burns let me ask you that question, do you think president trump will bring this up? russia's role in the u.s. election? >> you know, i'm not sure he will raise this issue. but he should raise this issue. i testified before the senate select committee on intelligence this week. there's very little support for him on capitol hill.
practically no support even from within the administration lower down on his policy, which is not to respond to the russian attack on our elections, not to even investigate it. and it's become such a major issue now i think the president should raise this. and the issue, the pertinent issue is, will he support the senate and house in sanctioning the russians over the russian cyberattack in our elections. and will he support the maintenance of sanctions for ukraine. you would think a negotiator like donald trump would want to start off in a strong position and pushing putin back on the sanctions withed ould be a good. >> experts within the administration have expressed concerns about donald trump would be too easy to please putin. what do you make of that and the desired reboot of the relationship he tries to cast in a way we haven't seen recently? >> we heard this from candidate
trump and we heard it from president trump. i think he believes there can be a recasting of the u.s./russian relationship, an improvement. he's better off sticking with the congress, with the republicans and democrats in congress. i think with most foreign policy experts who believe the russians are out of line in interfering with our elections, in dividing ukraine in what they be done in syria. the more effective way is to start from this tougher, stronger position. >> one thing that was strikes as we heard from senior advisors of the president as they briefed us off camera yesterday a, they sa the agenda for the president had not been finalized. president putin is a very disciplined leader. he certainly will have his agenda in mind. is that striking to you that there isn't a finalized agenda going into this and perhaps the risk exists in letting the president free lance in any way? will it be tightening screws in
terms of what he's allow today discuss? >> he'll have advice from secretary mattis and tillerson and how the president should conduct himself. it's an opportunity for the president, he needs to meet president trump. they've never met. this is an important relationship. we may be at the lowest point in the u.s./russia relationship -- i should say the relationship with moscow since before the end of the soviet union, way back before gorbachev came to power in 1985. the russians are violating the nuclear agreement. they're beginning to help the taliban in afghanistan. there are a lot of issues to discuss. important opportunity for president trump here. if he could have a meeting where the president lays out these american concerns that republicans and democrats agree on it would help to repair our relationship with the europeans like angela merkel who worry about russia. >> the president has teed off on this topic. i pose it to you which is about the last administration's
handling of the meddling that took place. should president obama had taken more aggressive action against russia once it became clear that russia was interfering with the election? >> president trump has done absolutely nothing to respond to the russian interference. president obama and -- in my judgment, was too slow in reacting. should have done more, should have been more transparent with the american people. he finally did act. he imposed sanctions on russia and took our concerns directly to putin in a one-on-one conversation. president trump deserves credit for that. president trump, and i think you heard this in the senate hearings the other day. all the criticism from members of congress hasn't done anything. he needs to make up ground on that. he has an opportunity to raise it with president putin. >> by the way, on the back burner, some of the meetings to take place at the g-20 the
president will meet the leader of mexico. the german chancellor angela merkel will be there. she appeared to slam the president's america first agenda yesterday when she said whoever believes the problems of the world can be solved by isolationism and protectionism is making a tremendous error. they're going to see each other in person next week. how do you sort of cast that relationship right now and its significance, among other things they try to deal with russia? >> i think there should be more attention on this trip. it's an important trip. here's the opportunity for president trump. he's going to poland. he can stand with the american troops who are in poland to contain russian power in eastern europe. he has a chance with his hostess, with chancellor merkel to try to get off to a better foot with her. frankly, president trump did not equip himself well in the
brussels meeting. what's a more country to us than mexico? the president has been overly critical. he's been shamelessly critical of the mexicans. he needs to get on a better footing. >> a lot of americans will be enjoying their barbecue and fireworks, there could be fireworks overseas to keep an eye on. ambassador, very nice to see you, thank you very much. >> thanks very much. coming up, widespread condemnati condemnation, three dozen democrats and republicans in congress denouncing the president's tweets personally attacking the host of morning joe. mika and joe respond for the first time. >> i'm fine my family brought me up really tough. this is absolutely nothing. for me, personally, but i am very concerned as to what this once again reveals about the president of the united states. >> we had so many people saying, hey hope you're okay. had calls and texts and e-mails. we're okay. the country's not. for your heart...
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you know, big picture, my father just passed away. my mother had two heart attacks, my daughter just lost a friend. those are the things i'm really worried about. those are things that really deeply impact me. the president's tweets, whether they're personally aimed at me or aimed at me in some way, that doesn't bother me one bit. it does worry me about the country. it's unbelievably alarming that this president is so easily
played. he's so easily played by a cable news host. now, what is that saying to our allies? what is that saying to our enemies that this president is so easily played. >> that's our msnbc colleague mika brzezinski speaking out. joining us is "the new york times" white house correspondent and msnbc contributor. ashley parker, washington post white house reporter and msnbc contributor, and nbc's katy tur who is joining us from new york right now. we'll get everybody involved. i want to begin with you ashley. we heard the position of joe and mika. i think what's interesting is the reporting you have and what i experienced behind the scenes in the way the white house frames this fight. what are you hearing about how the white house views this? >> there are some tweets as we both know you have administration officials kind of groaning and wondering how are
we going to manage this. the white house thinks this war with the media hasn't been a bad thing. possibly it's been good. they went to war with cnn, cnn was force today backtrack on a -- >> president tweeted multiple times. >> one thing i heard was the only frustration i heard about this tweet was that it sort of stepped on their other war with cnn. but they think going to war with the media is a good thing. you know, it distracted a bit from energy week, of course. i don't think they're pulling their hair out over it. >> let me ask you, three dozen lawmakers, republicans and democrats, have spoken out basically saying this is inappropriate. it's got to stop. enough already. what are the real implications of this right now? it was one thing when he said it during the campaign it's another thing when you say it with the bully puppet at your dispense? >> that's exactly what susan collins, one of the key votes in the senate that he requires, has been saying. look, i get it.
the war with the media thing, anytime anything goes south, anytime the numbers go south, he'll pick a fight with us. he has a sense of grievance about this stuff. that's fine. the guy's at 37%, 42% nationally. he's losing altitude with independents. at some point, you know, you got to ask yourself, you keep going back to your binky, right? you keep going back to the thing that comforts you and perhaps comforts a significant element of your base, particularly when you see erosion. you do that by doing stuff like passing a health bill. knowing the details of the health bill. impressing members on the hill with your knowledge of the health bill. why is he having a war with us this week when he needs to engage on healthcare? that's my question to him in the white house. >> someone who was a target of that war, was katy tur. you saw what was said this week. you have your own personal experiences with him and these personal attacks. i want a sense of your reaction
to the attack, but first i want to play for you how some of the women around this president have been defending his actions. take a listen. >> the president has been attacked mercilessly on personal accounts by members on that program. and i think he's been very clear that when he gets attacked, he's going to hit back. i don't think it's a surprise to anybody that he fights fire with fire. >> i endorse the president's right to fight back when he is being mercilessly attacked and when the air waves are filled with raw sewage about him. >> today the president acted like a human and he pushed back. >> the chair of the rnc there. i want your reaction to that, and how this sort of -- this fits with the experience that you had. >> i think kristen welker put it best yesterday when she was asking sarah huckabee sanders shouldn't the president of the united states be held to a higher standard than cable news host. i guess the answer is no. the reality is, donald trump is
getting criticized quite a lot on cable news, quite a lot on social media. but most of it is surrounding the actions, all of it, is surrounding the actions that he takes, going on twitter and lobbing personal attacks. going on twitter and saying things that are counter to the agenda that he is trying to push forward. going on twitter and attacking those who disagree with him. whether it's a democrat, whether it's a member of his own party or whether it is the media. the president of the united states is not going to change. donald trump is donald trump. he was that way on the campaign trail. this is the way he's going to be from now on. and ashley parker is right, from everyone i've spoken with in this white house and surrounding this white house, they're very pleased with how the president has responded to this. they think the media has it coming. they think the media deserves it. but i will say this, that is -- that basically says to us, if
you are doing your job, if you're reporting on the investigations that surround the president's campaign, if you're reporting on the investigation that surrounds the president right now, if you're reporting on the inconsistencies coming out of this white house, if you're reporting on the fact that sometimes this white house does not tell the truth, and that's a polite way of putting it, you will be a target. essentially, you will be a target for doing your job. the same thing happened on the campaign trail. we should expect to see it continue. >> ashley, one thing that strikes me, i check in with folks, trump supporters i met during the course of the campaign to get their take on things so you can think better than in this beltway. what strikes me for all the frustrations they have about the debate on obamacare, they say the president is right on the travel ban and all sorts of different topics including vladmir putin. the one place where they disagree is this, this is where they say, you know, if you cut that out, i'd love the guy all
together. >> you're exactly right. the like the war on the media, the white house is right about that. but they do not like the tweets. they sort of wish he would stop it. and they have an intuitive sense of how it's under cutting his message. they might not know the nuances of he should be talking to susan collins about x issue and maine they know it demeans the entire office. while they dislike it, they still are able, at least so far to compartmentalize. they'll say the tweet was childish i didn't like it but it doesn't change what i feel what he's doing on immigration. it hasn't quite turned him against them. >> we're like 162 days in. we have 1,300 plus days to go. we got a ways. we better get comfortable. glen, keep that hat on tight. i want to get a sense from you as you talk to lawmakers the real implications on this. is this good fodder for
conversation or does this have consequences? will this in any way beyond losing a news cycle affect what happens on things like tax reform and other policies? >> on the record lawmakers say it doesn't. susan collins tells me it won't have an impact on healthcare. anything that reinforces their sense that he is not someone serious to be dealt with, and anything that increases his unpopularity diminishes his political leverage. it's not in the context of any one particular tweet, it's in the context of a larger picture that shows him losing women currently in both parties by a significant margin. less so with hard core republicans. there's a larger point here. if this guy, if the president of the united states is able to deliver on his campaign promises, then everything will be okay. all this stuff will be sort of additional. we have a 1.4% growth rate. we have a healthcare bill that's falling apart.
the travel ban is likely, even the one that was passed by the supreme court is likely to be challenged in court. you know, the proof is what he's able to accomplish, not what he's able to tweet. >> may i add something to that? >> go ahead. >> we saw him go after women quite a bit in the campaign. going after women was part and parcel of following donald trump. that being said, although he did strugual the majority of the women vote when it came to white women he won a majority of white women. a lot of this is stuff that many people, including women tend to turn their back on. they don't really find it to be as much of a problem as maybe some in the media see or on the other side of the aisle see. a lot find it distasteful. the trump campaign said this and those close to him will say it now. whether or not they agree with
it. they don't believe women are voting just because they're a woman. they believe they're voting because they want economic prosperity. they're adamant this administration is going to give it to them. as glen said, if he's able to do so, a lot of this won't be much of a big deal. >> well, so he could take a big step with the way he handles himself at that g20. to you to conclude this conversation, donald trump, vladmir putin in the same room for the first time. it sounds like a cable trump sort of like tease for a television production. we'll be watching. how important is the moment for him and is he prepared, and the white house prepared, how do they want it to come off? >> you remember how they lost their minds over his handshake with the french leader. >> with ask ngela merkel and la thereof. >> one thing people will be watching for is the president has no problem being tough to foreign leaders. but so far he's not shown that toughness to vladmir putin.
and it's sort of a question why he won't. and so it will be interesting to see if he presses him on these things, the sanctions bill making its way through congress and how far he's willing to go. >> the picture in the oval office when the russians was there. everybody was smiling. the picture in the u.s., everyone was looking stern and serious. we thank you all very much. appreciate it, have great holiday. coming up next, reversing course, the president urging republican senators to repeal the healthcare law before they have a plan to replace it. we'll take you on the hill next here on andrea mitchell reports only on msnbc. she's nationally recognized for her compassion and care. he spent decades fighting to give families a second chance.
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back now live on andrea mitchell reports. to the latest developments in the healthcare battle. senate republicans working against a new deadline to try to hammer out a revamped bill that would appease both wings of the party. this morning, president trump pitching a new idea on this debate. tweeting, if republican senators are unable to pass what they're working on now, they should immediately repeal and then replace at a later date. joining me now from msnbc's perch on capitol hill is garret
hake. a lot of guidance may have come from senator rand paul. here's what he tweeted. he said i have spoken to donald trump and senate leadership about this, and agree let's keep our word to repeal then work on replacing right away. so that was today. this was rand paul on "morning joe" in january. take a listen. >> i think it's imperative that republicans do a replacement simultaneous to repeal. if they don't, obamacare continues to unravel. it's a huge mistake for republicans if they do not vote for replacement on the same day as we vote for repeal. >> the guy working the tape machine, the bottom line here is he's all in and back then he was a no way. frankly, he wasn't the only one. what changed? >> that's right. remember, president trump back in january was also one of the people saying this has to be done simultaneously so you don't
have people getting thrown off their healthcare if congress can't get the replacement part done. this started this morning with a letter from nebraska senator ben sasse who has been quiet on the healthcare front. he suggested this idea the white house saying, look if he can't get these two things done simultaneously, let's split it up and set a deadline for ourselves and get to replacement down the road, presumably working with democrats. the problem is it's not entirely clear that can done within the rules of the senate or moderate republicans would sign on to this. this has been tried before with the sequester, if you remember that from a few years ago. the idea of setting the arbitrary deadline and coming back and dealing with it later. frankly, has not been something that congress has been particularly good at. and the risk of not getting the replacement part done is extraordinary.
we know that's not mitch mcconnell's preferred way to handle this. peter he's still driving the bus here. >> speaking of driving the bus, a lot of people will be heading out of town for the fourth of july weekend. the last thing they'll see is a conversation like this, so where do republicans leave it for them before they take off for their ten day recess, the goal was by today to have a grand plan, maybe a little bit more money for opioid addiction, potential conversations about keeping that tax on wealthy investors in place. where does it stand? will they be able to hand anything over to the congressional budget office? >> we're hearing they're working on this in bits and pieces trying to get staff to write the language on the things they do agree on. right now, everyone who is really involved in the decisionmaking process including leader mcconnell have left town. the negotiations will continue through the break. >> they'll continue through this
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challengers there went to court last night and said the government got it wrong. here's their claim, they say the supreme court said the problem with the ban on enforcement is that it's too broad that was imposed by hawaii and maryland. and that's why the supreme court narrowed it. the supreme court, according to hawaii, and they may have a point here, made a distinction between people who have some connection to the united states on the one hand and people who have no connection. that's the distinction they say the government should draw. not trying to define what's a close family relationship. last night you see fiancees at the bottom of the list in red, last night the government after initially saying fiancees would not be connection now say it is a legitimate connection. let me explain what this means. what this means is, if someone overseas in one of those six countries is applying for a visa and has that kind of family connection that you see on the left side of the screen, they can apply for a visa. under the 90 day ban, the people
on the other side of the screen, grandmothers and so forth, cannot apply for a visa during the next 90 days. so that's what allowed and not allowed means. >> let's talk about the criticism from the states we were talking about, hawaii, we heard this morning from the attorney general jeff sessions on this topic. here's part of what he said earlier today on fox news. >> does this truly just another activist attorney general? >> it's just an activist attorney general. they were slapped down by the supreme court. they had an initial victory before a judge in hawaii. issued an order that bound the whole united states, which is really an overreach in my opinion. except in the most extreme circumstances. >> so break it down for us. what should we be watching in terms of hawaii's action here and how does that change the enforcement, immediately for now, it doesn't have any impact? >> correct no impact at all and won't unless the judge agrees with the state challengers there. the judge got this filing last
night. he's told the government to respond by monday. and then the challengers to reply to that by thursday. so he could make some decision on it next week. and based on what he does, depending on whether the government wants to fight this, it could go to the court of appeals. presumably back to the supreme court again. but it's going to be a while before this gets worked out. >> notably in that conversation jeff sessions also said he had confidence in the special counsel robert mueller. let me ask you about the agenda the white house wants to be on, what how's republicans did yesterday, taking action on illegal immigration passing kate's law. can you walk us through where their position is? what they're trying to accomplish on that front? >> two pieces of legislation passed by the house yesterday, kate's law increases the penalty for people who commit crimes if they've been deported and they keep coming back. and the second piece of legislation would impose additional financial penalties on what are known as sanctuary
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over the next ten years. how would that impact residents in your state, barely a million residents in that state. what's the real impact? >> the real impact would be devastating for rhode island on a number of accounts. most importantly, we have about 100,000 rhode islanders so one in ten rhode islanders who rely on the affordable care act for their health insurance, so their lives would be disrupted. by the way, one in ten people, that means almost everyone in rhode island knows somebody whose health insurance would be disrupted. i think we will see thousands of job losses at hospitals and health care institutions. you know, we know that uncompensated care will go through the roof, which means folks will lose their jobs. so it will be bad for our economy. and the budgetary impact. >> sorry to interrupt you. when i speak to folks at the white house they say we will
shift the opportunity, burden, over to the states right now to find efficiencies, ways they can handle this. with these medicaid cuts, with slowing the growth rate of medicaid, could your state make up for that difference? >> no. absolutely not. and i don't think that they are being honest about that. in our state, it would be billions of dollars, about $2 billion over a six-year period which we cannot make up for. and people know that. that's just a ruse. this whole thing is being done in the name of eventually cutting taxes for the wealthiest and the math just doesn't add up. at the end of the day people are going to get hurt which is why i'm speaking out against it, because it's not the right thing to do for america or for rhode island. >> obviously opioids a big issue for you. i imagine that's a community you fear what will happen to those people fighting addiction in your state. >> absolutely. like many states, we are struggling with our opioid overdose issue. here in rhode island we have
successfully used medicaid dollars to treat people that are struggling with that disease. it's working. you know, i worry about a lot of vulnerable populations and there's no reason this has to happen. >> governor, my time is limited. let me ask you two quick questions. president trump's commission on election integrity has asked all 50 states to provide voter rolls going back to 2006. names, birth dates, social security numbers. some states have said no to this. will rhode island comply with this request? >> no. first of all, i think this is an alarming request. i don't know where it's coming from. we know that voter fraud is not widespread. our secretary of state put out a statement saying we won't be complying and will only share information which is otherwise publicly available. i support her in that position. >> mr. koback told the kansas city star all voter data would be stored on secure government
servers and cross-referenced across federal data bases to weed out fraud. do you have faith in the security of federal data bases to have, if not in your state, all that private data of americans? >> there's no reason to provide this data. again, we don't know why they want this. there's information that's publicly available. we operate excellent election system here in rhode island. it's fair, efficient and accurate, and there's no evidence of widespread fraud. so we are not going to comply with this. as i say, i'm alarmed they are even asking for it. >> governor raimondo, good to see you. we wish you a very happy fourth of july weekend. >> thank you. you, too. >> thank you very much. more ahead.
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that will do it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." craig melvin is on deck right here on msnbc. it's all yours. >> thank you. good day to you. craig melvin at msnbc headquarters. lots of news on this busy friday. back to business. president trump hosting a world leader, proposing a new path on health care, but dogged by bipartisan criticism. what will it take for him to get back on message? personal attacks. mika and joe responding to the president's personal attacks on social media. the president responding to their response. when will it just stop? and repeal now, replace later? president trump suggesting the senate should