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tonight, al gore gets the last word. >> if you had to give president trump one piece of advice, what would it be? >> resign. >> tonight's last word is resign. "the 11th hour with brian williams" starts now. tonight, a ranking republican senator choosing his words carefully, questions the stability of president trump and
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questions his understanding of our country. the president for his part, continued his campaign of republican fratricide, attacking two of his own party senators, and spreading a fictional e-mail tale about the terrorist attack in spain. "the 11th hour" on a thursday night begins now. we have made it to thursday. good evening once again from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. day 209 of the trump administration, and as you are no doubt, aware by now, our world suffered another terrorist attack today. it happened along a beautiful pedestrian mall in one of the most beautiful cities of europe, barcelona, spain. the death toll is at 13. full coverage later in this hour, but first, let's talk about the reaction. before our presidents in this age of terrorism, especially
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after we were hit so badly, reactions aren't difficult to compose for our presidents. they combine normally, sympathy, empathy and diplomacy. for this president though, it has been different. he famously attacked the mayor of london after that city was attacked and then today after some pro forma words about the terror in barcelona, he sent out a tweet referencing a fake story from a debunked chain e-mail that has been kicking around the internet for years. no more truthful than the chain e-mails from visiting african princes who need money. he started his day attacking two men. not just u.s. senators both, but republican u.s. senators, jeff flake from arizona, lindsey graham of south carolina. the president also tweeted his defense of civil war monuments, many of which have been defaced and taken down. just since charlottesville. it's a salvo in our culture war
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which suppressed a week ago, and it's roaring back into the open fueled by the president's own words. yesterday, the president's two business councils dissolved, before it was assembled. you will recall infrastructure was the issue tuesday's trump tower event was supposed to be all about, before it became known perhaps forever as the day an american president said with torches, ak-47s and nazi flags, included very fine people. a number of very concerned americans, perhaps remembering that republicans were the heroes of watergate, are watching republicans especially right now, after these three new magazine covers came out today, "the new yorker," "the economist." "time magazine." nicole wallace, former bush 43 white house aide asked again on
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air which members of the cabinet will resign over the president's words. it was with great interest today that the political world heard what you are about to hear, the words of tennessee republican senator, bob corker. he is chairman of the former relations committee, and he is known in the senate mostly as a thoughtful, hard worker and going into today he had a good working relationship with donald trump. here is what republican bob corker said about the president today back home in tennessee. >> i do think we need radical changes. the president has not yet -- has not yet been able to demonstrate the stability, nor some of the competence that he needs to demonstrate in order to be successful. he also recently has not demonstrated that he understands the character of this nation. he has not demonstrated that he
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understands what has made this nation great and what it is today. >> corker was not alone. republican senator tim scott of south carolina called on trump to act with moral authority. >> i am not going to defend the indefensible. i'm not here to do that. i'm here to be clear and concise and succinct. his comments on monday are strong, and the comments on tuesday started to erase the comments that were strong. what we want from our president is the moral authority. that was compromised when tuesday happens. there's no question about that. >> on those notes, let's bring in our leadoff panel. for a thursday night, white house reporter for "the wall street judge." our host of "msnbc live," katy tur,
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who covered the entirety of the trump campaign, and also returning is our msnbc contributor, jason johnson. so eli, we'll begin with you. what does it mean when these two republican senators, tennessee, south carolina, said what they said today? >> well, i don't know if a dam is fully breaking here, but it's definitely a ratcheting up of the rhetoric coming at this white house from republicans, and i have been talking to republican senators and their staffs on capitol hill this week, trying to figure out what the conversations are, and a lot of them have said this does feel different. when senator corker said that recently his comments don't reflect he understands the character of the nation, i mean, you know, if you are being honest, donald trump's character was on display throughout the campaign, but there is a change in his comments post-charlottesville that has brought some of his beliefs into starker relief for some of the senators and lawmakers on the republican side, and you get the sense there's a greater awareness even if the president is indifferent to history. they are not.
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they know this is one of those moments where history will remember where they stood, and so they are coming out with much stronger language. senator corker has tried throughout the first six, seven months of this presidency, to try to coach donald trump, to try to bring him along hoping that maybe he would learn the ways of washington, and so there may be some of that also in the scolding that he delivered today, but really, i think a lot of the senators are stepping back from this, and understanding that this is a fundamental moment to basically pick a side and say whether or not they ascribe to the aspirational values this country was founded on or not, and i think you can see which side most of the republican senators stand on. >> to paraphrase the lyrics from just about any blues song, he has been down before. you name the number of instances, we saw "access hollywood," and i like my heroes not to get captured and the star family.
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he has been done before. >> the access hollywood tape, fighting with the pope. it goes on and on. >> i forgot that one. >> the list goes on and on, and i went back, and the first time he talked about general pershing, which he tweeted today, there was no more radical islamic terror for 35 years. so the last -- the first time he said that was in north charleston, south carolina, the day before the south carolina primary, which he went on to win. he talked about this story, this internet hoax. we're going to talk about it later. >> we might have -- >> we might have it. >> video. we do. let's hear him. >> sure. >> february of 2016. >> february 19. >> you were there. let's listen to donald trump. we'll talk about it. >> early in the century, last century, general pershing, rough guy, and they had a terrorism
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problem, and there's a whole thing with swine and animals and pigs and you know the story. okay? they don't like that, and they were having a tremendous problem with terrorism, and by the way, this is something you can read in the history books. not a lot of them, because they don't like teaching you this. he took 50 bullets and he dipped them in pig's blood and he had his men load his rifles, and he lined up the 50 people and they shot 49 of those people, and the 50th person, he said, you go back to your people and you tell them what happened. and for 25 years there wasn't a problem, okay? >> let's take a look what maggie haberman of "the new york times" tweeted in response to that. the commander in chief is telling the public to look up this myth. to study a military incident
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that historians have called a myth. for those wondering about the quote, swine, they don't like that. it's believed he is talking about the dietary laws of islam forbidding pork. katy tur, you were saying about the story. >> let's -- he said 35 years in the tweet today. it said 25 years in that. that not withstanding. this is an internet hoax and a myth that was passed along via e-mail chain that he was touting in south carolina among military families and the same speech where he was saying waterboarding doesn't go far enough. around the time he was calling ted cruz a word he used to say he grabbed women by because he didn't advocate waterboarding, and he was fighting with the pope, and yet he won south carolina by a wide margin and i wondered at the time, and i tweeted a note that i had from that moment. i said these wins are giving him
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a free pass to take his rhetoric and behavior even further if that's possible. remember this is february of 2016. a lot more happened after that, and why did he feel like he had a free pass? because many of his voters decided they wanted to vote for him long before that, and they were not going to be swayed by anything that he said on the stage, anything that they saw on the news, and much of what you are seeing, how he is operating now is this belief that my voters aren't going anywhere no matter what i do. they have already decided that they like me, and i can say whatever i want. i can shoot someone on 5th avenue and no one will have a problem with it. the question is, and we don't know this because there is not an election coming up, whether or not that is true. the polls at the time showed him down, and the polls now show him with dismal ratings, but will that change, and is it, in steve bannon's words, the american prospect a good thing for
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liberals and democrats to come out and start talking about race and identity politics and does that allow them to hit on this economic message? it sounds absolutely ludicrous, but at the same time, we saw it work for him. >> yes. so jason, we have sat around this table and talked about two major stories for the last two weeks. and looking at them, i have the following takeaways. kim jong-un craves validation, and the haters, the neo-nazis, the kkk, supremacists, crave validation. they have both received it. things are escalated now. what do you make of this president's ability to de-escalate? >> i don't think he has that ability. i don't think he is interested in it. i think president trump thinks that fighting somehow makes him tougher, avoiding conflicts is not what he does. we might be able to rest somewhat easily tonight thinking that steve bannon and members of the joint chiefs of staff aren't going to get us into a nuclear
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conflict with north korea, but the president has given aid and comfort to terrorists and white nationalists. he has told them they are on equal ground with protesters, and do whatever it is that you want to do, and that will create an escalation the likes of which no one in this country remembers. if we thought 20 years ago, oklahoma city was bad, when timothy mcvey was involved. what are white nationalists going to do now? i want to go back to the two senators in particular. you have tim scott in south carolina. we know what terrorism looks like in south carolina. i lost a friend when dylann roof went in and shot people, and that's the future we'll have in this country if we don't have a president who has the moral clarity to say that white nationalism and terrorism doesn't play a part in this country's future.
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>> is it me, or does it seem to unleash talk and unleash thoughts that at worst, were suppressed, but at best were moot? most people were thinking we were beyond that. >> i think there's always been this element in this country, and this is what's important, and i have been saying this all along. you think about isis, right? they have killed more muslims than white christians. when you have domestic terrorists -- the white nationalists, they want to kill white people first. they want to kill all the white people in america standing in the way of getting them this state. so that is what we're looking at now. we're looking at people who will attack the majority population in this country, and until we recognize that only by working together, not just black and brown and tan peoples but by realizing this is a dangerous national security issue, none of us are safe, and a lot of us don't realize that. >> eli, maybe it's because we've seen the button he pushes for a refreshed diet coke, but our assumption about this president and all presidents, that old phrase, don't you have people
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for that? there's some structure, especially now under a just retired four-star general around things like staff meetings and oval office flow. when the president tweets out this worthless e-mail chain, a myth, a hoax, i think it's fair to ask the question, is there some structure around this guy? >> well, there may be a better or tighter structure around him now with john kelly as chief of staff than there was with reince priebus. the reporting i have done tells me there is more of a closed door policy to the office. aides can't just mill about and slip things under the president's desk, but as we have seen this week, john kelly, unless he is attached to the president at all times, cannot control everything he has tweeted, the controversial things he has already picked up off the internet that are lodged in his brain like the thing about general pershing that he tweeted again sort of reflexively this afternoon, just shortly after news of this terror attack as it was
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breaking. it's very difficult for him to control a 71-year-old guy who has his thoughts and habits engrained in him, and steve bannon may be a problem, and there are people in the white house he doesn't fully trust, but even if he chokes off their access to the president, how much can he manage up and rein in those impulses. that's really the question that will define whether or not john kelly is a success as chief of staff. >> steve bannon by the way, who almost single-handedly reversed several decades of u.s. military policy on the korean peninsula with one interview last night, but i digress. we have that ahead of us. we'll fit in a break here. when we come back, the president heading to phoenix next week and not knowing how much we'll see of him in what remains this week, does phoenix want the president next week?
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anyway, donnie john comes out and he says that he condemns violence on many sides. on many sides, colin, and i'm feeling sick because, you know, i have seen "raiders of the lost dark" and i wasn't confused by it. no, colin. nazis are always bad. i don't care what you say. >> we should mention on the special edition of weekend update that is airing during a couple weeks of weeknights on thursdays, tina fey did a cameo. tina fey, a proud uva graduate. the sketch got better from there, so once it's posted late tonight into tomorrow, look for
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it. first time we have watched the cast of weekend update say it was a tough week to do comedy, and half apologetically to the audience, they did a great broadcast tonight. anyway, we are back with our discussion. so eli, i didn't miss the fact that in those tweets this morning, critical of lindsey graham and jeff flake, the president chose john mccain's fellow senator from arizona and john mccain's best friend in the u.s. senate. not that everything goes back to john mccain, but this guy getting treatment for glioblastoma in arizona, he cast such a dramatic vote on the floor of the senate when we last saw him, it's just an interesting bank shot if you are mitch mcconnell who had to come out tonight and support jeff flake, one of those republicans, you're just looking to get all
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of those republicans in a pile so you can vote through legislation, perhaps. >> i don't know if this is about, you know, one degree of separation from john mccain or not. the president just tends to fire back at anybody who he understands to have criticized him and clearly he has got, you know, jeff flake in his sights, looking at supporting a primary opponent of his out in arizona. he is traveling to arizona and nevada, a place where he is also not happy with the incumbent senator, dean heller, and these are all sort of pieces of the fraying relationship between this president and his own party. the republicans on capitol hill, and again, this comes as he is supposed to come back in september, and they have to do the debt ceiling and they would like to do tax reform, although i don't think they see that happening, and the president continues to talk about infrastructure. most people think that's a pipe dream as well, and you see this president turning inward, and although he is upset with john mccain, in terms of health care, you have to ask john mccain why he didn't vote for it, but this
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president gives lip service to the republicans' legislative agenda, but his actions do not portray any actual intent or real desire to follow through on those priorities. he seemed more content to turn inward and just continue to withdraw deeper into these white identity politics that sort of defined his campaign. >> katy tur, let's call it an interesting relationship the president has with his own party. he often uses third person language to describe them or they, and there's talk of him authorizing primarying these folks he doesn't like. >> he feels like he is on outsider. he doesn't feel like he is part of a political party. he ran on the republican ticket, but again his political ideology didn't align with the republican
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ideology, and times it was to the left, and at other times it was far to the right of the republican party. it was essentially what was ever going to get a roar from the crowd at his political rallies during the campaign, and let's be honest. he doesn't seem to care much about policy now or care much about legislation. besides signing something, and besides saying he has gotten something done, we haven't seen him show much of an interest in any of it. he didn't campaign on health care. i'm not sure how they expect to get tax reform done, given the fact they haven't gotten anything else done. the president doesn't really know how to sell any -- any policies. >> no jokes. >> any bills or legislation. we'll see what he talks about in arizona. it will probably be his job numbers and how the stock market is doing, and et cetera, and how he opened up his monday night afternoon remarks about charleston, and he is not afraid to go after anybody, and i would be surprised if he didn't go after bob corker. he is not afraid to go after
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lindsey graham. he has been doing it now for almost two years. john mccain, same thing. it doesn't matter -- >> chemo. >> chemotherapy, or he is fighting for his life, or if he needs john mccain to vote for the policies that republicans are trying to get through. if he feels like he is aggrieved or he is wronged, it's a personal thing to him. it's not about policing -- it's not about governing, or getting anything done. it's not about making this country great again. it's about self-image. >> i wonder what he is like the his enemies. >> i can imagine, and i'm waiting for him to say i only respect people like john mccain who beat cancer. he is that tacky and grotesque, i wouldn't be surprised. if the republicans have nothing to show after the first year of the presidency -- which is highly likely at this point, it's every man and woman for themselves in 2018. >> you think so?
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>> it's almost impossible to pass anything during a re-election year. the whole house is up, and right after the 2018 election, this president is going to get primaried. i think the comments we're hearing from people now, he is going to get primaried within his own party. he has got no base anymore, and if you can be -- if you can be a senator from tennessee, and you can be a senator from south carolina, deeply red states where trump won by 20 something points and you're criticizing him, imagine what will happen from ohio. imagine what will happen from nevada. he has no relationship. >> and imagine how ugly it will potentially get. >> you opened the primary door. give me some names. you can't open a trapdoor that big. >> somebody like bob corker. john kasich will do it. they are at the top of the list. corker said, i was almost his vice president, and i can follow the same policy goals we had without all this additional baggage, and i can be the president we thought he was going to be, and kasich will be
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with him. >> all right, eli. you have that capital dome behind you, and you can be our capital veteran. you get the last word in this segment. what about some names and what do you think of jason's theory? >> we should be cautious with that theory because trump has scrambled the politics on the republican side he does have a base, and that may be remarkable, but he is sitting in the low 30s, and while that's terrible for a first year president, those voters do not show any signs of leaving him. there may be chiselling away, and there may be a few voters falling off here and there. and we've yet to see him drop under 30%. and it depends on the states the senators are from. and the districts the congressmen are from, and it's a question of whether or not they are better off taking a tougher stance or embracing him or saying nothing. there are worries about offending that trump voter, who remains a big part of the votes these incumbents are going to
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need, and the politics aren't that clear, and that's one thing that republicans are wrestling with every day as they are confronted with something trump said they have to respond to, trying to sort of calibrate that response. >> if jfk had to rewrite profiles and courage, who would he fill the book with? our great thanks to three of our friends for a terrific top of the broadcast tonight. eli, katy and jason, thank you. coming up, it's not just the republican party. it's also business and world leaders fleeing from the trump name. "the 11th hour" continues right after this.
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welcome back to our broadcast. the president alienated a lot of people with his remarks there in the lobby of trump tower on tuesday as "the new york times" put it, quote, president trump found himself increasingly isolated in a racial crisis of his own making. abandoned by the nation's top business executives, contradicted by military leaders and shunned by republicans outraged by his defense of white nationalist protesters in charlottesville, virginia. he has faced criticism from several foreign leaders as well. tonight as we mentioned up top, we learned that the white house is dismantling yet another council, the council on infrastructure is stillborn now. it was in the process of being formed.
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this comes after the white house announced wednesday it was ending the administration's manufacturing council and the strategy and policy forum. with us tonight to talk about it all, the former secretary of state for public affairs and public diplomacy, and the editor of "time" magazine, and we have the writer of "donald trump puts the great cohn trade in doubt." more on that in a moment. let's put up the three cover pictures from the three magazines. "the new yorker," the "economist," and whatever you say about the magazine business, whatever has happened to the print magazine business, these publications still have this kind of power, of art and iconography. those are three commissioned pieces of art. >> yes. i think we were just talking about this, that the photography
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doesn't quite do justice to the trump presidency. we have seen enough pictures of him and silhouettes and the hair. commissioning works of art, you can have a point of view, and it can tell the reader, this is how strongly i feel about it. those three covers are powerful, right? they are using imagery about white supremacy, the klu klux klan, the sieg heil salute. you couldn't do that unless you were using art because it cushions it a little bit, but it makes a strong point. >> it's also the reaction to the world of instagram because we're drowning in photographs now to the degree that as rick says, they have lost the shock. these are so symbolic they make you think, and thinking frankly is what everyone needs to do right now. >> they land in your device with a thud. more impactful than their brethren of photos. gillian, tell me about this
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latest piece you have written. >> after trump was elected, everybody said it was a trump trade, and that's what's driving us, optimism. in reality in recent months, it's actually been more about gary cohn, because business and investors have realized that trump doesn't realliy lcare abo economic reform. he doesn't care about the details. the person he has been driving a lot of that forward and the deception has been gary cohn, and we saw it troubling business. if gary resigns on the press conference on tuesday, what on earth, if anybody, is going to push forward the economic
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agend agenda? >> rick, given your time at the state department, i wanted to read this. in this interview mr. bannon gave to the journalist arguing it wasn't on the record, perhaps, quote, contrary to trump's threat of fire and fury, bannon said, there's no military solution to north korea's nuclear threats. forget it. until somebody solves the part of the equation that shows me that 10 million people in seoul don't die in the first 30 minutes -- i don't know what you are talking about. so there is no military solution here. they got us. thus reversing our big stick. decades of u.s. military and diplomatic policy. this was our big stick. >> i'm going to be candid and saying what a lot of folks don't
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like. i was relieved to hear what mr. bannon said, that none of this bombastic rhetoric that the president is using. he cares about the 10 million south korean lives. the reason we have had trouble with north korea for years, and over multiple presidencies is there is no military solution. the fact that trump was suggesting there might be was something that is very dangerous. that has a more conservative view that made me feel calmer. >> rick knows better than i do, but there is not a single person i have spoken to in washington who says there is a military solution without causing as steve bannon said, extraordinary numbers of casualties and let us not forget, it would not be just south korean casualties, it would be all the u.s. troops down there that are vulnerable, too. >> that's an incredibly difficult concoction of details. and to talk about its so flippantly. who would have guessed a week ago that someone like rick would be saying, thank heavens for what steve bannon said. but hey, this is alice in
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wonderland? >> he'll be calling me now. >> exactly. i want to talk to him too. >> if you are watching, we're about to go to a commercial break. you can go ahead and place that call along with our great thanks to rick and gillian. thank you for coming. coming up, what can the history of presidents, the ones before this one, tell us just what it is we're experiencing right now? our friend, the presidential historian is with us. here in the studio. get my voice to work right after this.
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look. [ laughter ] we have all done bad things, but the difference between us and robert e. lee is we also did good things. i wrote the declaration of independence. >> might have heard of it. not to be a jerk, but i won my war. >> yeah. and i'm sorry, robert e. lee, but i prefer generals who win wars. that's my thing. >> fallon and myers doing a
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cameo tonight as two former presidents. who says presidential history isn't fun and funny? with us now, our friend, nbc news presidential historian. the best selling author, michael beschloff. i'll start with your realm. people are working their way into our public conversation. what is something called for by the editorial board for the usa, and what is the 25th amendment? >> censure is when congress passes a resolution of condemnation against someone, for instance, there was a proposal by gerald ford of all people during the clinton period of impeachment that rather than convict and impeach president
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clinton, that congress moved it to censure. and put it on the record saying it disapproved of what had happened. the 25th amendment came in the late 1960s and it was to deal with largely presidential disability in the line of succession, but one of the things it does say is that half the cabinet or another body that's authorized by congress can under certain circumstances remove a president if he seems to be unable to fulfill his job. >> i have watched carl bernstein at least twice on television this week. i made notes. report, again, quoting his own reporting, there is considerable evidence that a consensus is building. he says, among congressional republicans, people in the intelligence services, military and business, that this president is unfit to be president. could you imagine such a thing? >> not -- not in my lifetime, but, you know, we have talked about this, the fact that we have this wonderful system that
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our founders gave us, and i remember just after donald trump was elected, you know, a lot of people were nervous about him, and i was certainly anxious about whether he would measure up in this job, and i said to myself and said to others, you have to have faith in the system. and, you know, i don't want to be a pollyanna, but what the founders did, was instead of having a new king, they had a president who was circumscribed, and, you know, divided powers with two other branches, judicial and legislative, and power spread among the country, and you have to see to some extent, this is happening, when donald trump went to the state governors and said, hand over your private voter information.
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about 40 of them said no. he made a horrible to my mind, statement about charlottesville the other day. something i thought we would never see, the chairman of the joint chiefs today and the other service chiefs -- >> all of them. >> all of them saying, we are against bigotry, and racism, and it was clear who they were talking about. go back 55 years, and you remember "55 days in may," and that was about right wing generals opposing an idealistic president, and we couldn't have thought that some day, the country might be saved against generals acting against a president who was behaving badly. >> americans in our memory of president in our era, we forget the old ones because we don't teach them. we get gauzy and hazy, and we get kind in our recollection as we reminisce, but even with that uniquely american trait in mind, has trump imperiled in your view, his place in history already in any kind of irretrievable way? >> most presidents get an awful lot done during their first year, especially when they own both houses of congress. you and i have talked about
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lyndon johnson as the gold standard, or franklin roosevelt in 1933. this has been zippo, six months, with the republicans, you know, ryan and mcconnell, said the same thing. let's have unified government, and you will see all these things happening, beginning with health care. didn't happen. it's going to be very hard for anyone to explain that away. >> what a pleasure. we already know the segment we're going to do the next time you come to new york, and we're already looking forward to it and can't wait. >> can't wait. >> thank you for not only tonight, but for always appearing on our broadcast. >> thank you for having me, brian. another break here. when we come back here, word of a second terrorist attack on the spanish coast on what was an awful day. we have the latest when we continue.
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welcome back to our broadcast. late tonight, there were gunshots in a coastal town of cambrils, spain, two hours from barcelona. spanish police are telling nbc news, five suspects were killed
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in a second suspected terrorist attack. all five reportedly wearing explosive vests that authorities were able to later detonate in a controlled manner. this all came after today's deadly attack in barcelona. 13 dead today. when a white van barreled down a pedestrian plaza, filled with local folks and tourists. over 100 people were injured. i'm joined by the senior national security analyst, and the former deputy national security adviser for terrorism under president george w. bush. juan, we are forced to cover way too much of this, and i have been forced to have too many conversations with gentlemen like yourself on this, but we should point out the difference between a van and a weapon is a fraction of a second. it is one right turn or a left
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turn and someone stomping on the gas. and that is what makes it truly terrorism and truly impossible to police. >> that is right, brian, i hate to be talking about these issues and our thoughts and prayers go to the people of barcelona and cambrills, spain. and this is now sweeping through europe. the definition of this type of vehicle attack, the attacks that isis has called for. to do this in spain, precisely from the islamic state is now upon us, the new wave of terrorism. it's effective, easy to do, it can done where pedestrians s an tourists are gathering. and it doesn't have to be done in a massive building as a target threat. this is a new threat, and
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authorities in europe are trying to determine how to stop these plots before they happen, as we've seen in spain over the last couple of years in particular, but how to protect the civilians in these kind of areas and situations. and it's very difficult to stop. >> well, let's talk about americans, those americans who are luck enough to be able to travel over there in spain, in barcelona, or in the city of new york right now. talk to the people about the term of art in your line of work, situational awareness. >> right, i think what authorities always ask of anyone out in public is situational awareness, first to be aware of your situation and security and to understand what is happening around you where you can actually escape to if there is an emergency situation. but more importantly, you have
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heard the mantra, if you see something, say something, and situations that are problematic, that can often save lives. and we've seen it in times square, where a vendor stopped an attack from occurring. so i think people just need to be aware. i think in the united states they need not be afraid, we've built the infrastructure, the attempts where the attacks are coming from. and brian, in spain one thing to note is these are deeply embedded networks, last year, they attempted to disrupt in april, five or four suspects tied to cells in europe including brussels, arrested. so these are embedded networks that authorities are trying to ferret out and stop the attacks. that is what the united states is trying to do. the police force in new york are the best in the business of
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trying to protect civilians. we should thank god we live here in the united states because we do a good job. >> but the last chilling 30 seconds remaining, that difficulty in policing what is a white van one minute, and the next is a vehicle that has brought death and destruction along this beautiful stretch of barcelona. >> you're absolutely right. it's one of the great tragedies of these types of terrorist attacks. low barriers to entry. ease of attack, and very hard to stop in an open society. and these are terrorists that are trying to attack the heart of western society culture, there is lots on the internet that i have been reading today, brian, that is sickening. the jihadis praising this kind of terror brought to a western capital. and in an open society where you can't protect everybody all the time in an open society, we just
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have to do our best work, good defense mechanisms, layers of defense, and finally, resiliency in society. spain bounced back from the 2004 attack which led to 191 individuals killed in the subways there. spain will recover there. i think resiliency is important as they recover. >> this has been a terrible time for spain, a great country on any day but they have been enjoying an improved economy. juan, thank you for coming on, with us from capitol hill tonight. and coming up, figuring out exactly what the president sees as part of his daily diet of media. especially social media. more on that and some new reporting from "the washington post" when we continue.
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last thing before we go tonight, and it becomes friday.
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it has become something of a cottage industry. civilians across this country engaging in a kind of daily politic political psychiatry, while they try to get into the head of our president. our friend at "the washington post" may have come up with the next best thing, while this helps if you use twitter or converse in twitter you don't need to be but since twitter users choose to follow a finite set of other twitter users and then that choice often colors their world, at least the portion visible through their phone the post has created something called trump's feed. more specifically, trump under score feed, anyhow, it allows you to see what the president sees because it follows all of
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those he follows. there is his family and friends, a whole lot of fox news, some conway, some coulter. between the >> tonight -- >> the president has not yet been able to demonstrate the stability, nor the confidence that he needs to demonstrate. >> republicans speak his name. the moral authority is come promised when tuesday happens. >> an angry president defends

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