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safety. in working with the red cross, combining information -- i thought i recognized that voice. in working with the red cross, we now have across the state of texas 258 shelters that are now open. 107 of those shelters are shelters that are participated with or in collaboration with the state in some form or fashion, and 151 are considered to be independent shelters, which would be the type of shelter that let's say a church would provide. last night the overnight population in shelters in texas was 42399. of those amount 6,000 are in state parks. in addition to that, our great friend and neighbor, louisiana,
has about 3,000 texans in shelters. and i want to express my deep gratitude to louisiana and to the governor of louisiana for helping with search and rescue missions, helping to save the lives of texans and also express my gratitude to both individuals as well as first responders from louisiana for being such tremendous human terry yans. a pressing issue in texas is the issue of fuel. now, this is an issue that is pressing in part because of a reaction to some media reports where the facts are that there's plenty of fuel, plenty of gasoline in the united states of america. there's plenty of gasoline in the state of texas. all that said, we are ensuring
an even greater supply of gasoline so we can tafrp down any concern about accessibility to fuel that people may want to access over the course of the coming labor day weekend. working with all sectors of the oil and gas community, from refineries to pipelines, from operators, trucking companies and retailers, we have worked in the past 24 to 48 hours to alleviate concerns about access to gasoline and to ensure that more gasoline will be coming or is already coming to the state of texas. working with our neighbors and great friends oklahoma, louisiana and new mexico. fuel is being shipped from each of those states to the state of texas to get fuel into the dallas-fort worth area and then into the surrounding areas in the state of texas.
the pipeline of gasoline that had been going from texas to oklahoma has been reversed, and that is now sitting, gasoline from oklahoma to texas. we have refineries that are coming back up in corpus christi and three rivers that will quickly be provides a much greater supply of gasoline. the port of corpus christi has now opened with barges coming in already with gasoline that came in today and will be coming in in the following days. and also, i signed a waiver of certain regulations on fuel truckers to ensure that gasoline supplies can be more swiftly
brought to the state of texas from other states. the bottom line is that the state of texas will have plenty of gasoline showing up at gasoline stations across the state of texas, so don't worry. we will not run out. and we will be back into our normal pattern before you know it. one of the most important things we can do when we have times of weather challenges like hurricanes and floods is to make sure we can ensure an ongoing supply of food and water. i want you to know that we have established points of distribution in all areas between corpus christi and beaumont. we are relying upon local officials, typically the county judge, on the announcement of the location for the points of distribution. if you reside in any of the
counties that are in the affected area between corpus christi and beaumont and you are looking for food or water, contact your county judge or look for notification from your county judge about where those points of distribution are. also, there are law enforcement officials, as well as emergency operation centers in each of those counties who should be able to provide you that information. we are proud to have worked very collaboratively with all military branches. from our military branch we have received -- i can't read my writing. we have received air support and many aircraft from 43 states helping our mission.
now, i want you to know we have received offers of help from all 50 states, but we have accepted it from 43. and we leave ourselves open to accepting it from the other seven if necessary. the primary focus of the aircraft remains on evacuation and search and rescue. we've had a tremendous partnership with the united states coast guard. they've done a fabulous job up and down our coast assisting in countless ways, and among other things, they reported today that they are getting our ports opened as fast as possible. and i think there will be a lot of good news to report here perhaps today and in the coming days about the success that's being made. some important information from
fema. already about 440,000 texans have registered for assistance from fema. and already fema has approved more than $79 million in assistance. one thing that we focus on is trying to move evacuees from these evacuation locations into a more semi permanent location, such as a hotel room. we want you out of convention centers into a place where you have a living room and a bedroom and your own bathroom. and we get you there as quickly as possible. and let me clarify. when i say we, that is fema get you there as quickly as possible. fema has been very proactive and has been moving this process very quickly. now, i want to thank them for all they're doing. also, however, maybe the most important thing i can say to you today, if you are a texans who has been impacted and dislocated
because of the hurricane or because of the flooding or because of any consequence of the storm that's hit texas, please contact online disaster assistance dot gov. you can join now the more than 440,000 texans who have already accessed help from fema. now, one thing that has led to an effective operation in response to this challenge of the hurricane and the flood is the collaboration that we've seen at the local, state and national level. i cannot thank enough the men and women who served -- or serve in our armed forces and what they have done to aid texans in
this very challenging time, whether it's army, navy, air force, marines or coast guard. they've stepped up and come to our aid and have worked seamlessly as we have worked every single day to keep our state and our citizens safe. i'm proud that we have with us today the leader of this effort, general robinson, who is the commander of north comm. and i would like to ask her to come up and say a few words. >> sir, thank you very much. >> sure. >> governor, i can't tell you how excited i am to be here and how proud and honored that you would have me be here with you. on behalf of secretary mattis, chairman dunford and all the men and women in our active duty armed forces i would like to offer our heart felt thoughts and prayers to all of those who have been affected by hurricane harvey. >> thank you so much. >> yes, sir. yes, sir. and it is my role as the
commander of north comm to be responsible -- okay. to be responsible to deploy active duty soldiers, sailors, air men and marines to support fema requests in the state of texas for assistance to local, county, state and federal civil authorities in devastating times like this. just like harvey. when disasters of this magnitude strike a whole of government responses necessary, and dod is a part of all of that. you know, one of the things that we've learned overtime is how important it is to have the right capability at the right place at the right time to support the needs of the citizens. as we know, sir, i can't tell you how much we appreciate your leadership and the things that you've done and the leadership of fema and the things that we are able to do to support the two of you each and every day. our military has unique capabilities to support disaster relief.
those same capabilities that make our armed forces so effective in combat make our forces uniquely effective in disaster relief efforts. we have been and we will continue to deploy any and all capabilities requested by fema and, sir, of course you. i want to tell you i had a conversation yesterday with secretary mattis, and he made the comment to me, lori, texas gives everything they need. and we'll get it there as fast as we can. i have to say i'm so proud of the soldiers, sailors, air men and marines that have deployed in the affected area and that will continue to deploy as long as requested and needed. you know, the army has provided 200 high water vehicles to support rescue cross inside movement of personnel, army helicopters with hoisting capability are transporting the survivors and the army is also overseeing the receipt and issue of life support items. the air force is providing fixed
air lift airborne command and control and helicopter to transport people and supplies. the navy am bibous ships along with the ma reasons with the 26th marine expeditiousary union it are in route should you need them. our defense logistics agency has provided fuel, sandbags, generators and incident support basis and is delivering meals to dislocated citizens. and the u.s. army corps of engineers has deployed experts to the state and fema response to help provide technical assistance with power restoration. so these are just a few things that the men and women in uniform are doing to help with the larger relief effort. and we are committed to assist at local, state and federal agencies throughout this trying time for our nation. so governor abbott, mr. rob sin son r administer long, again, thank you so much for your
leadership. we look forward and we will be there steady, ready and to support at a moment's notice. thank you, sir. >> thank you, general. >> yes, sir. general robinson, again, i cannot thank you or those who serve under you enough for what they have done to make texas a better place. and if you would, please pass along my deepest gratitude to secretary mattis. we have had a seamless and really daily collaboration with members of the dod throughout this process, and that collaboration will continue. and i have expressed to our commander in chief directly my gratitude to all that the dod and the united states military has done to help texas in this very dark time. with that i'll be happy to take a few questions. >> you talked about gas lines that are happening right now. people are going out and seeing
lines snaking around their block and those red tags on the pumps. how do we have confidence that supply is on its way? >> we have already heard today about one way that people are still with confidence as they are on the roadway and they see these big tanker trucks filled with gasoline coming down the way. the best thing they can do is when they see one of those tanker trucks of gasoline, move out of that lane and let that tanker truck get on down the road faster. we have been working literally overnight nonstop to line up tanker trucks to be coming in from other states. that in addition to the pipeline reversal and these other actions, the barge coming in. we are being flooded with gasoline, but we have a bunch of gasoline coming in. and so there is a perception of concern, but the reality is we're going to have plenty of gasoline. >> governor, regarding federal
funding going forward for recovery, is there any concern that politics such as a border wall or government shutdown will interfere with that? >> i don't. >> governor, you obviously -- what do you expect the state legislature -- >> we won't need a special session for this. we have smartly provided a lot of resources at my disposal to be able to address the needs between now and the time the next session will begin, and we have smartly kept a lot of money in our rainy day fund that we will be able to tap into as needed going forward. >> governor, we heard that a lot of folks that have been inundated, about 8%, did not have flood insurance because there are areas that just were not prone to flooding. what can the state do, if anything, to help these people,
because in katrina, we had a lot of folks that just let their homes go, go into foreclosure? what can we do to keep that from happening? >> let me allow the response to people that are experts in this. >> sure. >> let me back up and let you guys get up here. >> what can the state do to prevent a repeat of katrina where people lost their homes to foreclosure because they were inundated, did not have insurance and they just department have the funds or help to save their homes and not only homes but entire neighborhoods in new orleans that are raf anld. >> it's a good question, tough question. inca what we're going to continue to do is work with those financing entities and figure out how we get people back up on their feet, bringing the jobs back in so they can return to work and the repairs. fema has offered individual assistance for all of those that
will qualify, which is about 33 thouds. now, that doesn't repair or remace a home, but to continue to working and find strategy means to work with those local and volunteer assets that come in. the backbone of the texas individual assistance to get families back is our faith-based organizations, our churches and our volunteers toe get them back in. when we get jobs come back like we already have right now, i think we will see this turn around quickly. my next message, though, is for all of those not impacted, and that is even if you didn't live in a flood zone, you need to seek flood insurance. this is the reason that we keep pushing this message to have the right level of insurance to protect your properties. >> state law for renters says that if there's just one room in that apartment that you have that's viable, you have to still keep on making that monthly payment. here we are at the first of the month. rent is due. a lot of people in houston are looking at i can't get to that home, what are we going to do? are those checks going out now
is there something the state can do to go, hey, landlords, back off for a little bit? what do we do? >> we'll just keep working with our partners on that to figure out a smart answer and we owe you and them that answer. let's work on it a little bit. >> two more before we've got to go. >> that is governor abbott of texas with a number of military, coast guard, national guard folks representing south comm, so the impression there is this isn't just a national guard issue, the u.s. military is fully involved with this. we've seen this in the last few days with naval rescues and army rescues and the helicopters come in. interesting comment by the governor that people shouldn't worry because there's no shortage of gas in the united states. and a reporter asked him, well, people are going to gas station and they're out of gas. there are red tags on the gasoline, so there's no shortage of gas in the united states. i don't think there was anybody who thought there was a shortage. people in texas aren't able to
get their cars filled at their local gas stations. so it was an interesting response. there are actual shortages of gas in texas, not -- there's not shortages of the product. people can't get it into their car. that's the issue. all right. we're waiting for a white house briefing. you can see over there on the right side of your screen, that's supposed to have started at three:00. i think they were probably holding off because of the greg abbott press conference of the until we get there, let me just bring you up to speed on what's going on in texas. it's a week since the storm made landfall. it was last friday night, category 4 hurricane. harvey going into texas. people are still reeling from the impact of record rainfall and devastating floods. rescue he teams are still going door to door working to find people who may have been trapped for days in flooded areas in beaumont and port arthur, some residents are returning home today in houston, but in beaumont and port arthur, an estimated 100,000 homes have been affected by harvey. thousands of people are still in shelt rs. in beaumont there's no fresh
water after the city's pumping stations went down. crews are working to restore water service to beaumont residents as right now it's not clear when that might happen. let's go to nbc's blake mccoy, who is in port arthur, texas, where the water is finally starting to recede. blake, what's the latest where you are? >> yeah. you set up the big picture quite nicely. it's been a dramatic improvement over the last 24 hours. this is one of the last remaining neighborhoods that is underwater. we've seen authorities, as you mentioned, go door to door, at one point opening up a door, plowing it in and forcing their way in to make sure that no one is inside of those homes. thankfully we have want had one storm related death since this all began. the power is working to be restored, but they do have sewer and water here in port arthur. and as far as the shelters, at the peak of this storm there were 4,000 people in local shelters here. they're down to 900 right now as people were able to return home.
so there's very much a sense here that we're moving from the emergency phase of this into the recovery phase. >> but as we know from katrina and from sandy, years later it feels good to be able to go home, but people are going to go home to homes that are inundated by water. even if just for a few days. then you end up with mold, structural damage. we're learning that so many people in texas don't have flood insurance. so the worst may still be yet to come. >> p exactly. they're going to have to go in, take out all that ply wall and all of that to get the mold out of there. the smell in some of these neighborhoods is not pretty today. so just because people can return home doesn't mean they're able to sleep there and they may not be able to sleep there for some time. >> thanks vich very much. still standing by bottom right of your screen, take a look. that's the white house briefing room. we are waiting for a press conference that was originally scheduled for earlier. moved to 3:00 and we believe it was held back because of the press conference we were just
watching in texas. so we'll keep an eye on that. about 20 miles north of blake in beaumont. you've been talking to people who are in line at a grocery store. what are people saying to you. >> reporter: ali, the first thing i'll tell you is that people are still in line at this grocery store is set to close in 45 minutes. they have been coming here all day to buy water. i spoke to one person who told me this is the third place she went to to try to get water. they're actually ragsing the sale of water here because beaumont at this point is an island and many people don't have any running water since the city pumps are completely inundated at this point. i want to point out some facts from the governor's presser just regarding beaumont specifically. a,000 people evacuated, most of them to dallas. they have distributed 600 pallets of water, but the nach he is river, which is the river here, it is expected to crest later on today, and it is
expected to remain at a high for seven more days. so people here clearly are not out in the clear. again, we have seen this steady line of people, ali. and i want to play some sound for you of one girl who came here, and she just explained the dire situation she was living in at home. let's listen. >> tell me what you and your family came to do here today. >> we came to get water for our family. >> how bad is the situation at home? >> 25 people are living with us. four families lost everything. they lost their cars, they lost their homes, and they're all living with us in a small house. >> with no drinking water. >> no drinking water. we came all the way over here because we couldn't find them at the gas stations near to our house. >> ali, many people, though, have told us, some of them at least that they're starting to see a little water come out of their faucets but of course they're having to boil that water and they just don't know when the full running water will be back. and most of them also have told us they don't have any
electricity. so, again, it's gearing up to be a very challenging weekend for the people of beaumont here. >> it really is. it's hot weather. it's challenging. it's a blessing that people aren't still flooded or at least the flood waters are receding, but this is the hard part. thanks for your great reporting on this. by the way, some tweets are coming in to me after greg an bots comments about not running out of gas. i live in austin, many -- half of all gas stations in san antonio have no gas. so there are issues getting gasoline in texas. as the remnants of harvey move toward the northeast hurricane irma is brewing far out in the atlantic ocean and it's forecast to pam a major hurricane over the weekend. who is tracking the storm for us. this one is interesting because it's powerful and it's growing powerful, but over the sea. >> yes. ali, we still have a lot of time to watch it. that's the good news with this system, but we use the satellite, this is one of the instruments in our toolbox if
you will to gauge the health of the storm. and based on this picture here, the storm is ventilating well which means it's breathing well. it's symmetrical and over the last few images you see this nice little eye developing here as we go through the last frame there. so the hurricane center diagnosed this as a little bit weaker at 11:00 this morning, but based on some of these latest images, i think they may bump the wind speeds back up. we still have a lot of time to watch it, but it is growing into a monster of a storm 6789 the latest check of the wind speeds, 110-mile-per-hour. you're going to see this number fluctuate over the next couple of days as it goes through eye wall replacement cycles. that's what harvey went through back last weekend. the storm steadily progresses as a category 3, potentially a category 4 as we go through early next week. so, again, this will turn into a major hurricane once again. the million-dollar question is where is it it go? so we have two scenarios on the table right now. this allows for the westerly winds that below across the
country to pick up weather systems to help pick this system and move it up to the north. potentially a threat to the east coast or out to sea. the other scenario is what we really don't want. that scenario pushes the storm down to the south and then moves it west. that would be a florida situation or into the gulf of mexico. both of those scenarios equal on the table right now, ali. >> all right. we're going to watch that one closely. i know you guys are going to be on top of it and we'll keep close on that. steve sass that for us in our weather center. we're still watching the white house. the briefing hasn't started. we'll bring it to you when it starts. i'm going to take a quick break. i tell you what, if it starts, we'll come back. but we'll see you on the other side on msnbc.
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what did i tell you, we go away for a minute and there she is. sarah huckabee sanders white house press secretary. >> what are the factors driving that decision? you know, what is he weighing right now and also, does he think that the program as it is designed now, does he think it's illegal? >> i just spoke with the president, and we're in the process of finalizing that decision and those details. and we're actually going to make that announcementful tuesday of next week. and the president's priorities are immigration is are to create a system that ep kourjz legal immigration and benefits our
economy and american workers. the president has been very clear. he loves people, and he wants to make sure that this decision is done correctly, and so that's what he's doing now is finalizing that part. >> let me ask you a question that might help us understand what nfz this decision. does the president feel that young people who came to this country illegally who came of age here, who have jobs here, went to school here, are those people americans or are they foreign nationals? >> look, i'm not going to get into the back and forth while we're in the process of finalizing the details on this, but we're going to be working on that throughout the weekend and make that announcement on tuesday. >> how incumbent does this white house believe it is upon congress to come up with a solution to the dreamers. >> again, we're in the process of finalizing the decision on this front and once we make that, we'll walk through next steps of what any action that
would be needed at that time. >> ific just follow-up. i asked that question because senator tom tillis of north carolina is introducing a conservative dream act. he's leading a group of conservatives in the senate. senator jeff flake is it's important for congress to do this. paul ryan, while he said he doesn't agree that the president should end daca as we know it, does think that there needs to be a legislative solution. does the white house agree with what's being said from capitol hill? >> again, i'll say it for a third or fourth time and i'm sure i'll get another five or six more questions on this and i'll get to say it another five or six more times. we're in the process of finalizing that decision and those details and we'll announce that on tuesday. >> the president said we love dreamers today. in april he said the dreamers should rest easy. you know the president. is it conceivable that he could end this program and send all these people out of the country after saying things like that? >> i knew i'd get another chance to say this. we're finalizing those details -- >> that's not a detail. >> we're finalizing this
decision. it is part of the answer is we're finalizing this decision and that would certainly be part of the details of the announcement on tuesday. >> the president had said that if we have to close down our government, we're building that wall. is he backing down there that threat now? >> no. the president is still very much committed to building the wall. >> there's a report out though in the "washington post" that basically says -- you've got a smile there on your face. >> well, you know how i feel about using other outlets as your source. >> is it wrong of nem? >> i think the president has been pretty clear what his position is. i would take that as the president's position over a report on what it is. >> two questions. one about the that happened today. already has a read out of the conversation and in it the south koreans are saying that the president of the united states promised more missile capabilities to seoul. can you confirm that and do you have any sense of what we're talking about there? >> again, we'll have a read out out shortly and we'll certainly make sure all of you guys
receive that. >> talks are going on now. obviously the president has made his feelings pretty clear but eases also talked several times about terminating the deal. >> negotiations are on going and no decision has been made at this time. >> hurricane harvey, has the president made a decision what charities he's going to donate to? do you know if that's going to be coming from his own money or from the trump foundation? >> he has not finalized where all of that will go and i was actually going to use that as a -- it's a perfect segue to remind sh if you have suggestions, he is very open to hearing those. we've gotten a couple, but please accepted more if you have them. sorry. >> personal money or money from. >> i haven't had a chance to do that, but i will. >> thank you, sarah. yesterday sheriff dave clarke of milwaukee announced his resignation effective
immediately. this started a rush of speculation in the badger state and in washington that he would be appointed to a position at the department of homeland security, possibly even the secretary ship, which is vacant now. lady at dhs said he's not coming here to reporters. is former sheriff clarke under consideration for any position, particularly at the department of homeland security? >> i'm not aware of any specific jobs that he's being considered for, but as always, we'll certainly make sure when we have a personnel announcement we let you know. >> a poll released by fox news on wednesday said that 56% of americans think the president is tearing the country apart and approval rating polls are usually in the 30s. how do these numbers affect how the president governs. >> i think a lot of these polls are the same polls that
predicted he would never be the president and he's sitting in the oval office as i stand here. so i don't have a lot of faith in these polls. i think if you look at what he's been doing this week, particularly focusing on unifying the nation, on hurricane harvey rooefr, talking about tax reform, an issue that's got very wide bipartisan support. the numbers frankly that we are focused on and that this administration cares about aren't poll numbers but we care about 94% of americans that get assistance to file their americans, that the majority of americans think the tax code is unfair and that 70% of individuals in ten key states support broad-based tax reform. the numbers that we're focused on have to do with actual problems that americans are facing. the numbers that we're focused on are the ones that actually impact day-to-day life for all americans. that's what we're focused on. certainly not silly polls that frankly weren't much use to us in the election and certainly i don't think are now. >> thank you, sarah. i want to switch to tax reform.
we learned today that the president will be traveling to north dakota next week. this week he was in missouri. republicans hold 52 seats in the senate and the democratic senators from those states are ones that the white house is targeting. if the white house got those votes, that would put you up to 54. joe donnelly and joe manchin are two other democratic senators that the white house is looking to pick up. that would be 56. where are the other four democratic votes that the white house and the president think that they can get for tax reform? >> i would love to see all of them come on board. i can't imagine why anybody wouldn't want to support helping more americans keep more of their hard earned money. we want to simplify the tax filing process for individuals, encourage job creation, encourage job group, provide tax relief for middle class america and encourage companies to bring back money to the united states and invest it. i don't know in any member of
the house or senate wouldn't want to support those things. >> so you don't have four other names specifically. >> not specifically. again, i'm hoping that the senators from all 50 states get on board to help americans and do what frankly americans are demanding. i think you'd be hard pressed to find somebody that doesn't support tax reform in this country and those are the people that are the bosses of those individuals. those are the people that elected those members to go there and help do the things that they are asking for and tax reform is at the top of their list. >> sarah, my paper just published a story that robert mueller has obtained a copy of a letter drafted by president trump in part by steven miller and other aides around the time of the dismissal of fbi director james comey that enum rates the rational for having him removed but focuses principle on the russia investigation. if irs of all, can you confirm the existence of that latter, secondly, can that letter be made public and thirdly, we
report that done mcgahn thought it was inappropriate. can you discuss whether or not you and or the president believe that drfting such a letter was appropriate at that time? >> i'm not going to get into any of that. i think we covered a lot of those things very extensively during that time. as ty cobb said earlier today, to the extent the special prosecutor is interested in these matters, we will be fully transparent with his investigation. and frankly, i don't have anything to add beyond that. >> can we get a copy of the letter? >> again, we're going to work with the special prosecutor. as ty said and we'll work tlou that process. >> hey, guys, one at a time. i'll come back to you after that. >> earlier this week the president tweeted that talking is not the answer in regards to the north koreans. today the south korean president's office says he and president moon agreed to reaffirm that north korea should be brought back for dialogue. so which is it on that -- >> i think i was clear on this
yesterday. the president's looking for integrated process, and we're continuing to move forward on that. we take north korea extremely seriously and all options are on the table. >> nafta question. mexico has threatened to end the negotiations that are going on if the president initiates steps to pull out of nafta. would the president view that as a positive outcome, and is there any concern overall in the white house that the escalation of the rhetoric will hurt the white house's ability to craft a better deal as the president has promised? >> no. we're continuing to move forward in these negotiations and as the president says, we'll see what happens. >> on daca, on the issue of daca, the vice president said that the president will use a big heart in making this decision. what is the definition of a big heart? >> again, i'm not going to get
into the back and forth on this until there's a finalized decision, which we're in the process of doing. and we'll make that announcement on tuesday. >> one more. i have one more. on jobs. what is the white house saying about jobs, particularly as the unemployment rate is at 4.4%, but you have continuation historically of african-american and la teen notice rates that are higher for august, the african-american unemployment rate, 7.7 rate, the white rate 3.9%. a few weeks ago stooeb miller was at this podium talking about the black unemployment rate versus that of the immigrants. is there going to be a targeted reports? these numbers bear to show that there is a difference when it comes to minority american unemployment versus mainstream america. >> i think you make a great point for why we need tax reform. it's one of the primary reasons that that's a top priority for this administration is to do a massive overhaul of the system so that we have a better
environment, we're creating more jobs, higher paying jobs, and i think that's a perfect example. there were 150,000 new jobs created over this time period. and since the president came into office 1.2 million new jobs. we are incredibly focused on this. this is not just something that we've been talking about, but something that the president has been very active in since day one. he's gotten rid of over 800 regulations that have created a better environment for job creation. we're continuing to focus on that. primarily through tax reform and that's why it's such a big deal for us in the fall. >> sarah -- i'll come back to you next. >> the president is meeting with congressional leaders on tuesday about tax reform and does that mean that the details are almost finished? >> he is meeting with congressional leaders next week. and i believe it's tuesday. ible that's right. and i believe there's a second bleeting on wednesday as well. >> does that mean it's almost
finished. >> that means we're pushing forward. we're going to continue, again, focused on those four principles, using that as the guide and the focal point moving forward and sit down with a lot of members of congress to make sure we get this deal done. >> thank you, sarah. two questions. the first one is on daca. i know you're not ready to make an announcement yet, but these people, these dreamers came out of the shadows and they provided their personal information to the government for work permits. if the president does p end daca, will that information be used to round up and deport any of these people? that's my first question. >> well, i'll answer it the same way i've answered it 18 other times today. those decisions are being finalized and once they are, we will announce them on tuesday. >> the second question is on from infrastructure. clearly the devastation in texas brings attention to problems
with our infrastructure and there's going to be a need for massive rebuilding. i know tax reform is the focus right now, but will there be a push for an infrastructure bill either after that or around the same time and will that be coming from the white house or will the administration be letting congress take the lead on the infrastructure bill? >> infrastructure is certainly something that's very important to the president and a priority for the administration. the timing of that hasn't been set forth yet, but it's certainly something that we're actively working on and looking at every day as we like to say here we can walk and chew gum at the same time and we'll continue to push forward on how to best improve the infrastructure. >> hurricane harvey, the president was there on tuesday he's going back tomorrow. i don't understand the exact schedule might not be set, but can you give us any idea of what he's going to be doing and what he's going to be doing this weekend and he didn't have a chance to do on tuesday.
>> he'll be able to go into houston which he was not able to do on tuesday. that will be the first stop of the day of the he'll have the chance to meet extensively with quite a few storm survivors as well as talk with some of the volunteers that are helping administer a lot of the support that these individuals have needed over the last week. and from there he'll go to lake charles, louisiana, where he'll do a stop there as well, meeting with a lot of the volunteers and other storm survivors. >> are there any events on sunday or all on saturday? >> all on saturday. >> do you have any other weekend plans after that? >> we'll keep you posted on further guidance for the weekend. >> two questions on that. given the president is going to be pretty busy on saturday down in that region, you said 19 times that he's going to be finalizing the decision in the next few days. what is going to change between now and tuesday given that we heard the president talking in the oval office about a decision
coming this weekend. what specifically is he doing in these next three days that he hasn't done so far. >> this is a pretty complicated process and we want to work through every bit of that. that's what he's doing. he's making sure he takes the diligent time and effort and attention that this very important issue deserves. >> and given it's so important, i just kind of want to personalize a little bit. the guy it texas right now, he's a pair med i go. he's been working since the storm hit to help people in the community in and around texas. he also happens to be a dreamer. what's the president's message to jesus? >> i think it's the same message that he said many times before. this president is a president that loves people, and we are working on the best decision possible and we'll announce it on tuesday. >> new report sort of detailing how under the obama administration the group was being watched and their activities were declared as
domestic troechlt finalists. my question is was the president or the chief of staff aware of those investigations and reports before charlottesville? >> i'm not sure. i'd have to ask and i haven't had that conversation. >> is he cracking the rise of violence from this group. >> i'm sorry. is he what? >> is he tracking the rise of violence from these groups going forward? >> i think we're certainly, you know, constantly monitoring all violence across the country as best we can and something certainly that the democratic of homeland security and the administration takes very seriously. and as constantly looking for ways to end all violence in all forms. so certainly that would qualify. >> the follow-up to heal's question for a moment. i think i read there were 120,000 dreamers in the state of texas. is that in any way weighing on the president's decision about daca and what the situation there is? >> again, i think that isn't a decision that the president
takes lightly, and he's taking time and diligent effort to make sure that he goes through every bit of the process, and he'll continue to do that and make that announcement on tuesday. i'm sorry? >> is what's happening in texas and even in louisiana -- >> i think the situation itself is weighing on him, certainly. >> i've got two. the first one is coming back after labor day weekend, there's obviously a lot of stuff on the agenda. >> going to be a busy september. >> there were some tensions between the president and congressional republicans over the summer, and i'm just wondering if he has a message for them that you would want to share about any reset that he hopes to effect in the next four days before he comes back? and i also wanted to ask you with all the caveats that you aren't allowed to discuss this letter that's part of an investigation -- >> let me answer the first question so we don't get lost in that. i think that the message that
the president would have for the members of congress would be let's get to work. you've had a nice long break here, and we've got a lot of things to do. we've got some big commitments to the american people that we need to fulfill, and we need to do some really big and bold things throughout the fall and hopefully they'll get on board and be part of that process. >> the letter as reported suggests that some of the rational did have to do with russia, but the president initially talked about hillary clinton and i'm wondering whether you can square those two for us. do you think his -- do you think there's now an inconsistency that needs to be addressed and would you like to address it from the podium. >> i'm not sure i'm following fully your question, but as i said earlier in reference to the letter and the comey firing, we have discussed that extensively of the in fact, i've done that many times from this podium. and i'll refer you back to ty cobb's statement that i read
earlier. there's nothing more to add on that. >> sarah, can i drill down what is driving the daca review and final decision? is the president reviewing the merits of the daca policy or is he -- legality of the process. if congress were to protect the daca would he sign on to such an effort? there seems to be interest there. what he's reviewing? >> again, i hate to sound like a broken record but since you are and i guess i have no choice to be, but we're continuing to work through this process and i won't go further than that. the president's made a lot of statements on this. and he's going through all of the details of this very thoroughly and once the final decision is made and those details are ironed out we'll let you know on tuesday. just as we're wrapping up here, a reminder, if you have suggestions for the president to contribute that, that would be
great if you can get those to us by the end of the day and we encourage everyone to participate in the national day of prayer. thank you so much. >> lots of questions, sarah huckabee sanders saying that she was going to get 19 questions on daca. she probably did. the main news out of this is that the president will announce a decision on daca on tuesday. there had been some talk that he would do it today earlier today. the president himself said it's going to be on the weekend. it might be on sunday. latest monday. and now sarah huckabee sanders saying tuesday is actually the day when we're going to hear from him. the 19 questions on that topic i'm not sure if it was or wasn't the 19th question, but hallie said it was. hallie jackson was in there. and hallie made -- let's bring her in. she's in that room right now. >> i don't owe that it was 19. i'm just guessing, but it was certainly asked more than once.
>> you brought up a name i hadn't heard before, somebody you said is a rescue worker, emergency worker in texas. just tell me what you said there. >> yeah, you're going to meet him tonight on "nbc nightly news," ali, if i can direct our viewers to the broadcast later on this evening. he's a guy, a paramedic. he works in texas. he is a dreamer and he's been working ever since the flood hit and obviously before that as a paramedic, but particularly since the storm hit a week ago now in his area. as you might imagine, when we spoke with him, he's stressed to say the least. he feels concerned about his own future. you've got between texas and louisiana an estimated 144,000 daca recipients living in the two states affected by harvey that don't know what's going to happen with them next. so that is what i think you heard a lot of the folks in this room driving at with sarah huckabee sanders. and with the president in the oval office earlier today. you nailed the announcement that's set to come, that's on
tuesday, that does not preclude a tweet over the weekend, but at least we know it won't be later than tuesday. given that the question i had had was what's going to happen in the next few days because we know that today is almost over. essentially. the president tomorrow all day is going to be in texas and louisiana. visiting some of these places that were hit hard by the storm which essentially leaves him sunday and monday to finalize the review at this point. i think we have a little bit of sarah huckabee sanders' answer to that, and i want to play it for you. >> given the president is going to be pretty busy saturday down in that region, you've said 19 times that he's going to be finalizing the decision in the next two days. can you explain what is going to change between now and tuesday given that we heard the president talk in the oval office about a decision coming this weekend. what specifically is he doing in the next three days he hasn't done so far? >> look, i think this is a pretty complicated process and we want to work through every bit of that. that's what he's doing. he's making sure he takes the diligent time and effort and
attention that this very important issue deserves. >> given that it's so important, i want to personalize a little. there's a guy in texas, jesus, he's been working since the storm hit and he also happens to be a dreamer. what's the president's message to jesus? >> i think it's the same message that he said many times before, this president is a president that loves people. and we are working on the best decision possible and we'll announce it on tuesday. >> what we have seen so far, ali, for example with this situation when you look at what's going to happen with dreamers is a president who has appeared to have been -- a little bit conflicted frankly. he talks about how he loves -- he says -- he said it today he love dreamers and he signalled he was going to cancel or rescind the program and the idea of congress is stepping in.
that is building today, specifically from house speaker paul ryan. while he has some concerns he thinks there should be a legislative fix basically. and so would that satisfy the president? >> all right. jeff flake has said -- >> just today alone, yeah. so again, we're leaving this briefing with not much clarity on whether that would be an amenable solution that the president would be amenable down the road. i guess we'll find out in 72 hours from now. >> to quote hallie jackson, probably on tuesday, but that does not preclude some sort of a tweet coming out over the weekend. how long in your reporting career before you ever had to utter that phrase? do you have any -- the idea that a tweet might come out to change the policy. thanks. hallie jackson in the white house. i want to remind you about daca. it's a topic that's dominated this briefing. it stands for the deferred action for childhood arrivals. an obama era policy that protects young undocumented immigrants or immigrants who are undocumented when they were
young and came to america from deportation. there were people who were brought in as children. about 800,000 people can work and study in the united states legally on a renewable two year permit which precludes them from committing or from being convicted of a crime. as we just heard president trump will announce we think on tuesday whether or not the white house is going to pull the plug on this. i want to bring in msnbc contributor charlie sykes. great to see you. i have to say we all have gotten to know president trump a certain way and read his body language. he really does seem conflicted about this one over time. he really does seem to think that there's something that his base wants him to do and there's something that's the right thing to do and he doesn't seem to be able to reconcile that. >> yeah. this is going to be a very interesting moment and very interesting divide on the right. you have paul ryan and orrin hatch and others saying do not terminate daca. i think the feeling is that the policy of letting the dreamers stay here is a good policy.
the procedure by which it was implemented is questionable. jeb bush just tweeted out a little bit ago. yes the executive order may have been unconstitutional but it would be unconscionable to terminate this program and that would have brutal optics because there's just a fundamental humanitarian principle here. but make no mistake about it, his base is pushing very, very hard for him to terminate this. so it's going to be very interesting to see what he does, what it does to his base. and whether or not this is going to be another example of congress going its own way. i mean, paul ryan breaking with the president on this is not insignificant. >> and we have had a few other key leaders who have also come on board with this discussion. let's do it through congress. because i was talking to kris kobach, the secretary of state for kansas. he's put out a column in breitbart saying that the president should end this right now. a lot of people are saying this
isn't for the president to do. if congress wants to do something like this, then they should do it. this is the question that one of the reporters tried to get answered in the white house to say if congress were to fix this, if daca became a congressional thing, would that solve the problem? what's your answer to that, what do you think? >> well, it could. i mean, this should be handled by congress. it should have been handled by congress several years ago. there are -- you know it's a very small minority even among conservative republicans, even among immigration hard liners to say let's get rid of the 800,000 young people -- they're going to school, working. serving in the military. you know, they're first responders. this is not what republicans want to be about. so yes, if congress does pass this, it would be a rather remarkable moment because the vote i think would be bipartisan and the question would be, would trump be willing to stand up to his base, at the same time he's basically caving in on his wall. >> let me ask you this, charlie.
as a conservative, as a fiscal conservative, one thing that people understand most people understand this in country is that we have a negative worker replacement rate, we don't have that many kids. so we require legal immigration. if you prioritized getting rid of undocumented immigrants who have committed crimes which is what the donald trump administration says we're doing, this group of people, this 800,000 plus people who as you said about 45% have an education or are in school, trying to be productive, they have to renew their visa if you want the call it that every two years. if they commit a crime, they lose the ability to stay and work in the united states. sounds kind of neat to me actually. it sounds like we have our handle on a whole bunch of people who are otherwise undocumented immigrants and using them in a way that's productive to the united states and to them. >> that's right. that's why there are republican leaders and business community leaders who are saying, look, to the extent that we have a problem, these people are not
the problem. these people, you know, are not negative. this economy needs people like this to grow. they're contributing to society. so that's why you have people like marco rubio and jeb bush and paul ryan and orrin happen speaking out today. >> thank you very much, author of how "the right lost its mind" charlie sykes. i'll see you later on tonight and don't miss our show tomorrow at 12:00 p.m. "deadline: white house" begins right now. hi, there. it's 4:00. i'm katy tur filling in for nicolle wallace on deadline today, "the new york times" reporting that robert mueller has received an early draft of donald trump's justification for firing james comey. a draft that according to "the times" was