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accurately applied. that is our broadcast for tonight. thank you for being here with us and thank you for watching us for all or part of our first year in existence. as the news never seems to stop around here, i imagine we'll just keep going along with it. until we look for you tomorrow evening for all the good folks who put this broadcast together each evening good night from nbc news headquarters in new york. prayers tonight and hopefully good planning tonight for puerto rico as the 3.4 million american citizens who live on that island bear down under a category 5 mur hurricane. it has been almost 100 years since a category 5 made landfall in puerto rico. there are very real worries what the storm will leave behind. the storm has already killed
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people in ang willa and barbuda, st. martin and saint barts. he believes 90% of the island on barbuda may have been destroyed by the storm. 90% of the buildings on that island. there are real fears ahead for haty, the dmin can republic. hurricane irma a is front and center tonight. one of the largest hurricanes ever recorded in the atlantic basin. we'll be talking about the preparations ahead of its path and what we are learning from the storm as path as it churns through the caribbean and toward florida. simultaneously we're keeping a eye on the aftermath of harvey, some towns outside of houston are still under water. there are worries about what's
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basically a toxic stew that's been left behind in parts of texas because of this storm. in addition to all of the other things that the houston and gulf coast region is to our country, it is our nation's center for our chemical industry. and one of the centers for petroleum industry. there are new reports out of houston people who were he can posed to the flood waters after harvey are turning up in local hospitals with strange skin infections and rashes. there are wires about a large plume of benzene which is a toxic gas that causes cancer. they're pluming over industrial houston. among all the other changes that houston and texas are facing, there are real questions about whether those new chemical and health dangers are being even
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monitored and measured, let alone addressed while people try to recover from the flooding that still persists. we're going to be joined for the interview by a power house state attorney general, eric shieder man, he is reportedly now woirk with the mueller investigation in washington. he's also the same attorney general who filed a 15 state lawsuit against the federal government to try to save daca. that lawsuit was joined today by big tech firms including amazon and microsoft and it's proving to be a pretty significant and personal challenge to the president in tempts of why the president acted to rescind daca process techs and why the states think they can stop him. but what i want to start with
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this a big development that we got today on a major story we've been covering for months. this particular thing that just happened today is something that has been denied and denied and denied again by the enties in question. but now months down the road, they finally admitted to it and that's potentially a big deal for the robert mueller and congressional investigations into trump and russian. i think it's a big deal for the reporters that were right about this months ago, reporters who have been staring down denial after denial for months who have now finally been proven right. but it started in may of last year, may 2016, american intelligence agencies reportedly intercepted a communication that they didn't really know what to make sense of at the time but it was a communication that they intercepted between two different russian officials. there was a guy who worked toe
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gru, russian military intelligence, and last may he was overheard on this intelligence intercept bragging to one of his russian colleagues that hillary clinton was about to get a big surprise courtesy of vladimir putin and russian military intelligence. this was first reported by massimo cal breezy in time magazine in may 2016, quote, in may 2016. this is his report from may 2017, in may 2016 a russian military intelligence officer bragged to a colleague that his organization, the gru, was getting ready to pay clinton back for what president vladimir putin believed was a influence operation clinton had run against him five years earlier when she was secretary of state. the gru was going to cause chaos in the upcoming u.s. election. he was the first to report that at time magazine this year.
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this was the first we heard about this particular intercept which was apparently intercepted by u.s. intelligence last spring. they later confirmed his reporting with multiple sources and said the specific type of case the gru was propsing for the u.s. presidential election was they were going to quote spread news damaging to hillary clinton. so, this reported u.s. intelligence intercept of this russian conversation, this again was something that apparently happened in may of last year, so last spring as the presidential primaries were winding down, russian military intelligence brag ping they have a way to mess with american's understanding of the news about hillary clinton and her run for the presidency. that discussion was captured in may of last year. then of course we know about the things that happened soon there after. in june last year, there was that meeting involving the top echelons of the trump campaign,
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kushner, manafort, all meeting with a bunch of russians in trump tower to discuss russian government negative information about hillary clinton according to the e-mails released by donald trump jr. who set the meeting up. one of the arts pants in that meeting is someone we now know has given grand jury testimony. he's a soviet born d.c. resident, has russian military connects, has been involved in multiple campaigns in the past where he worked for allies of russian president vladimir putin and those allies were involved in legal, business, or financial disputes with other people and those other people soon found themselves to be the victims of sophisticated hacking attacks where they had documents stolen from hire computer servers or the documents were repurposed to hurt his client's opponents.
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in may russian military intelligence is over heard. in june this guy with the russian intelligence military background is in trump tower meeting with the top of the trump campaign to discuss negative information about hillary clinton. then the following in month in july d.c. looks and guccifer 2.0 start leaking hacked information stolen from the democratic party. the intelligence community assessed with high conference that d.c. leaks.com were both operations run by russian military intelligence, gru. my the fall it included the hacked documents stolen from the campaign staff and released through wikileaks, assessed by
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the u.s. intelligence community to be a russian military operation. meanwhile, while all those happening, meanwhile beyond, stealing and leaking back into the u.s. the stolen democratic documents, russia simultaneously also through the summer and the fall, they ramped up their efforts to manipulate american news, particularly manipulate online discussion and interpretation of the news by interrupting and steering and perverting social media traffic to steer away hillary clinton. this is something the intelligence community made a positive declaration about in june of last year. this is settled and understood if you believe this intelligence community report that came out, russia's state run propaganda
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machine, including the kwiesa government trols, served as a platform for crikremlin messagi. we can put more dots on the mop and time line in how this falls into order. we know the basics of what the russians did for nine months now. on the social media part of what russia did, though, there have been some out standing questions that have been aggressively reported on but it's been hard to get to the bottom of them. how about russian military intelligence or other elements of the russian government, how did they do this stuff in american social media without us knowing at the time that that's who it was? without americans being able to see bluntly that this was a
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foreign influence operation. if the russian government, the russian military were using social media to influence the outcome of our election, that is a criminal matter, you can't spend foreign money on anything in a american election. so there's this question of how they did it. it's a -- there's also a technical legal matter for investors to look into, as to whether or not this was a expenditure of foreign money to influence the out come of a election. but there's a broader counter intelligence question, the treason question about whether they had help in launching that part of their attack. this is the part where there are a few american reporters who get to stand up and pound their chest its about this because they were right. in may of this year, in that time magazine, we first heard the gru was overheard about how they were about to mess with hillary clinton in the election.
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massimo was also first to report that intelligence officials were looking into russia using facebook to infill trait the u.s. election. this is time magazine, quote, intelligence officials have found that mass could you's agents bought ads on facebook to target specific pop layings with propaganda. now, that makes against that russia would do that, right? we understand they were running this influential operation on trump's behalf, they're running the funs operation to benefit trump and hurt clinton. it makes sense they would use american social media. does raise interesting questions about whether or not they needed help to do it so it would look like american stuff so it would target the right american facebook users to have the maximum effect on the vote. it races questions about facebook accepting the money
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without noticing it was from a foreign source. but facebook came out and told time magazine in may that it didn't happen, quote, a facebook official says the company has no evidence of that occurring. so, cal bracy says intelligence officials found months could you -- facebook comes out and says the company has no evidence of that occurring. in july, investors at the house and senate intelligence committees and the justice department are investigating whether the trump campaign's digital operation overseen by jared kushner helped guide russia's sophisticated vote targeting and fake news attacks on hillary clinton. they site several people connected to the parallel. -- focusing on whether trump's
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campaign pointed russia's cyber operatives to certain voter jurisdictions in key states. they were spotting unexpected weakness in support for hillary clinton. in that article, he spoke with a guy that just left his post as the compute assistant secretary of defense, he's the senior pentagon official responsible for russia. he said there appears to be significant cooperation between the russia propaganda machine and individuals in the united states about where to target the disinformation. so, mcclachy comes up with that in july. specifically citing investors interest in how the kremlin was able to facebook accounts in key precincts. very, very pointed accusation there, right?
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and that elicits once again a spate of denials from facebook. facebook, days after the mcclachy piece ran, they told wired.com that they found no evidence of russian enties buying ads. then cnn reported top democrats, they were convinced that facebook holds the answers that investors are looking for on the potential collusion between the trump campaign and russia. cnn describes senator warner as convinced that facebook can explain whether anyone from the trump campaign whether russia boosted articles. after that comes out, the trump campaign itself says, no, no, no, that definitely didn't happen. the head of data operations comes out and says he was unaware of any russian activity during the election at all. once again facebook comes out
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and says no, no, no, this didn't happen. facebook told cnn, we have seen no evidence that russian actors bought ads on facebook in connection with the election. so, this would -- this would appear to be a key part of what russia did to try to skew the election toward done ever dawned trump, specifically using facebook, it's a key component of the investigation into whether or not they had any american help in what they did. whether any americans knew what they were doing, and let it go or cheered them on or even helped them do it. and for months now, really good reporters at outlets all over the country have been chasing this down. the big hurdle in the middle of this is facebook keeps saying no, no, no, no. we know you think this happened. what russians? there were no russians.
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for months facebook denied it happened. as of today, facebook admits, okay, there were russians, today at 4:00 p.m. eastern time, facebook released in ungoogleable headline. a update on information operations on facebook. despite that thrilling headline, what this means is that facebook is now admitting despite all its earlier repeated denials that it has positively identified thousands of ads during the presidential campaign as originating in russia. that goes out at 4:00 p.m. and then carol len i go and tom ham berger at the washington post, they were the first to scoop on the story, beyond the frankly self congratulatory statement fry facebook in which they basically intimate that the biggest threat here is to their
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own facebook business policies that weren't followed, after that statement from, from facebook, colleagues at the washington post were able to get this much more helpful information from a facebook official, quote, there is evidence that some of the accounts that facebook now admits to, are linked to a troll farm, referred to as the internet research agency. again, the bottom line is what this means is facebook is finally confirming after months of denying it that russian fake accounts were sending political messaging for months. although they don't say it in their blog post, a official admits to reporters working on the story that some of those russian posts were tied to the internet research agency, that is a specific and googleable thing. it is cited in the intelligence
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community's report on the russian attack on our election. it's a -- they cited essentially as a project of russian moimt intelligence, from page 4 of the intelligent community's report, russia used trolls as part of its influence efforts to deny great secretary clinton, this effort amplified stories on -- the likely finance year of the so-called didn't research agency of professional trolls located in st. petersburg. the finances ear is a close tie to vladimir putin. russian intelligence, again. sometimes you feel like you connect the dots. sometimes you feel like it's one big dot. russian intelligence officers overheard their plans to disseminate information about
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hillary clinton last may. russian intelligence cut youts start distributed hacked information -- to distribute stolen hacked documents deny grating hillary clinton in the fall and all along for months, russian intelligence is using american social media companies, including facebook, facebook now finally admits, to circulate information intended to influence the election. it's like 17 different dots that are all labels russian intelligence. russian intelligence. so, this is a key part of the collusion narrative that was denied for months by in gigantic powerful company. now that facebook is no longer denying it, now that everybody involved, ex sem the trump campaign, admits to what russian did here, can we look at what they did to see if they had
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help? in the republican led congressional investigations aren't looking at it, the only question is whether there are american con fed writs are involved and it's a very investigatable thing. the other reason this is important is you can't spend foreign money to influence a u.s. election, even on facebook adds. this is direct evidence by facebook of a discreet clear crime committed in the course of the russian attack on the election. good luck bringing in the russian military service to face the music for that particular crime, but it's a crime clearly. and if any american knew that crime was happening, if any american was part of the effort to make that happen, that american could absolutely be criminally charged on that matter. this all finally gets confirmed
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today when the mueller investigation is actually under strange new kind of pressure from camp trump. a republican congressman, he appears to have now basically unrecused himself from the russia investigation, he has started unilaterally threatening the fbi and the justice department with subpoenas and possible contempt charges if they don't hand over to him information on the mueller investigation. nun nez has been president white house's best friend in trying to avert the investigation from the beginning. it'll to find out whether he's freelancing this latest effort or if he is working directly with the house on this again. but he has brought a new form of pressure to bare on the mueller investigation. the investigation itself proceeds, though, and today
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really is vind cation for all the reports who have been saying the mueller investigation has one specific criminal matter to follow up because of this evidence of russian money flowing through facebook in a effort to affect the election. the company at the center of those allegations has been denying it for months. today they finally stopped denying it. one more piece of this just got proven true. watch this space , fisher investments avoids them. some advisers have hidden and layered fees. fisher investments never does. and while some advisers are happy to earn commissions from you whether you do well or not, fisher investments fees are structured so we do better when you do better. maybe that's why most of our clients come from other money managers. fisher investments. clearly better money management.
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this is from may 2017, so this year, in "time" magazine.
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you probably remember this cover. i always thought this was good, the white house slowly morphing into a red square white house. that issue of "time" magazine, calabrise reported that one way russia tried to influence the u.s. presidential election last year was by using facebook to try to sway americans' views. he reported that in may. facebook denied it was true at the time. and then they went on to deny it again and again and again. now, today, about-face -- book. facebook admits it was true all along. despite their earlier denials. joining us now is deputy washington bureau chief at "time" magazine. thank you for joining us tonight. congratulations in retrospect in getting this right in the first place. >> thank you very much for having me. >> why did investigators and intelligence officers believe that this was going on for so
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long, that the russians had used facebook? why did they believe it for so long while facebook was still denying that it was happening? >> so, what we found in speaking with u.s. intelligence officials, and outside experts, and indeed officials in other countries, was that the sophisticated russian social media propaganda operation that was put into play in the 2016 election here was in fact just the latest in a westward march of cyber election meddling by russia. that started as many as nine years ago, in some ways in georgia, moved to ukraine in 2014, and was found also at various points in western europe. so this is a capability that russian intelligence has been
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developing very intentional over time. the russians, as you know, have always been fascinated with propaganda, and they have seen in cyberspace where the u.s. always viewed a potential sort of kinetic battlefield where things would blow up, or banks would be shut down. the russians viewed cyberspace as a battlefield for propaganda. they've been intentionally developing this capability. >> from a reporting perspective, or from an investigatory perspective, do you think this is a jumping-off point for figuring out if there were people on the american side who may have helped russia with any of its social media influence operations against clinton during the campaign? i can see what you just explained in terms of if you sort of knew what to watch for, if you had seen russia do this in other countries, you could recognize them start to do that in the united states. from that previous understanding, does it help you figure out if they had some confederates to help them? >> it's one of the confounding
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things about what happened last year that, to be frank, u.s. intelligence did not do a good job of pursuing the evidence that they had in hand of potential collusion between the russian government and the trump campaign. it was only after trump's victory, several intelligence sources have told me, that the community really turned to the possibility that there had been an act of collaboration. and so as a matter of fact, to the best of my knowledge, it wasn't a focus of the intelligence community in a systematic way, the kind of tasking from higher levels that now in retrospect it seems they should have undertaken, if that's what you're asking. >> yeah. and the question is, you know, what bread crumbs do these
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things leave behind, and how much help might a russian operation of this kind need in order to look native to the people who were targets of this information? i don't know if there's enough that we understand about russian operations in other countries to know whether they would need domestic confederates in order for it to work. >> well, several public figures have raised the possibility that the russians might not have been able to do the sophisticated targeting in social media with their propaganda that the intelligence community and others now -- investigators now believe that they did. i think that's an open question. i don't think it's been shown one way or another. i mean, if you think about the kind of work that the state department diplomats, or our own intelligence community does in other countries to learn how power is consolidated and distributed, it's not beyond the realm of the possible that russia would have a fairly good sense of how elections ran. indeed, we know from other
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reporting in a whole separate basket of this, what was really a government-wide effort by russia, that they were hacking into state and local electoral systems to gather data on individual voters themselves. so this was really a very big, broad attack on the u.s. -- the core exercise of democracy in america by russia. >> deputy washington bureau chief for "time" magazine, again, congratulations for getting this right early on. and thanks for helping us understand your reporting. >> thanks for having me. >> thanks. all right. do you remember how the trump administration got shellacked in the courts on the muslim ban? the people who brought that shellacking are back for round two. that story is next. stay with us. and 640 muscles in the human body
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if you were going to run for public office, what would you run for? there's one high-level electsd public office where as far as i can see it, you regularly get to fight winnable fights. you get to stand up for your state and its people in a totally tangible way where you know if you won or lost all the time. i mean, i'm sure there's down sides. but if you had to run for something, i think being a state attorney general has always been one of the more, at least potentially exciting and satisfying jobs in public service.
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and that's in normal times. but right now if you're a state attorney general, if you are the attorney general of the state of new york specifically, forget the satisfying stuff that happens in your daily life, with just your state, and its drama, if you're the attorney general in the state of new york right now, you're in the middle of a significant portion of what counts as national news right now. in the past few days it's been reported that the attorney general of new york, eric schneiderman, is working with the robert mueller special investigation into trump and russia, it's been reported by us that the schneiderman office has on its radar the potential corruption case involving trump administration adviser carl ikahn, and now other states are suing daca, save the d.r.e.a.m.ers who the trump administration now wants to deport.
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if you have not yet read about that lawsuit or seen that today, you will find the reasoning of that lawsuit very, very interesting. joining us for the interview is eric schneiderman. i know you're very busy, so appreciate your time tonight. >> glad to be here. >> let me ask you the reasoning behind the daca lawsuit today. when i was reading it today, i felt like, in some ways, you're making a similar argument to the successful case against trump's muslim ban. it's a personal argument. you're basically arguing that trump is repealing daca because he's motivated by prejudice, he's motivated by racial and other improper animus toward these young immigrants. >> it's a provocative argument, but argued successfully by our coalition of attorneys general in a coalition that sued today. i sued along with 15 other attorneys general all over the country. it's constitutional law that you cannot enact a government policy if one of the major factors, it
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doesn't have to be the only factor, is discriminatory animus and has an impact on a protected group. since the first days of his campaign, donald trump has flagrantly displayed an anti-latino, particularly anti-mexican mexican animus, rapists, and it has a disparate impact, so if you wanted to do something to a group you've been disparaging for a couple of years, this would be a pretty good opportunity. and the reasons offered to shut down this massively successful program, 42,000 daca grantees in new york, 800,000 across the country, 93% of them are in school or have jobs. they are great kids. i spent today with a bunch of them. the business community has rallied to our side on this, because they love having these kids for employees, love having them as students.
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this is a massively successful program. there is no good reason to shut it down. there's no legitimate reason to shut it down. no court has held it unconstitutional. we think the court will see through the pretext by jeff sessions and others and see the real motivating factor here is the discriminating animus. >> when you approach something like this looking for the best wa i to stand up for those new york d.r.e.a.m.ers and the best way to approach this, as a policy matter, because this is litigation to try to stop a policy decision by the president, what goes into deciding whether or not every state ought to pursue its own? or 15 states ought to go together? or amazon and microsoft basically joined in with what you were doing today. i thought about the strategic decision making that must go into that, thinking about whether the business community should be doing that on their own terms. how do you approach those things and figure those out? >> there have been occasions, and there's been a transformation of this coalition of attorneys general since
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january, and we have come together, we're in regular communication now, it used to be much more ad hoc to collaborate on cases, but we recognize the threat to the rule of law posed by this administration, we came together very quickly as first week in office, around his first anti-muslim travel ban, that weekend, 17 of us put out a statement we were going into court to stop it. we did. he issued a second ban. we went to court and got a second injunction against that. it's really the same coalition, my colleagues in washington and massachusetts, really all over the country have seen things like the travel ban, or the effort to rescind daca which is just really bordering on the despicable. these kids came here because they were brought here by their parents. this is the only home they've ever known. you can't get in daca unless your nose is clean. you have to meet the educational requirements. this is the last group of people we should be thinking about deporting.
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after promising them repeatedly they would be taken care of. and that any information they provided would not be used in immigration proceedings. to reverse all of that is just so fundamentally unfair that i think my colleagues just very quickly, as soon as they issued the order yesterday, we were on the phone together and we came together very, very quickly. that's happened on a couple of occasions since the president took over. >> i am not a lawyer, i'm always interested in terms of the strategic decisions in terms of how you approach a fight, whether you're stronger together, waging the same thing at once, whether you should work collaboratively, whether you can pool your resources like that. a collaboration story that was reported about you recently that went off like a bomb nationwide in terms of its news impact was the report that your office is cooperating with the robert mueller special counsel investigation on the trump-russia investigation. is that reporting true? are you involved with that investigation? >> i don't comment on ongoing or potential investigations. i understand why people are interested in that story.
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but we just don't comment on criminal investigations until they reach a certain level of maturity. i would say it is kind of unremarkable in the world of law enforcement for a federal and state prosecutor to communicate somewhat with each other. but i'm not going to comment on anything, any potential or ongoing investigation. >> not asking about that particular investigation, when you say it's not unusual for federal and state prosecutors to work together, is that just -- is that not unusual because of jurisdictional decisions about whether something that's being prosecuted at the state level might step on the toes of a federal prosecution and vice versa? is it just about sorting things out in terms of who should move first? >> in some cases, in many cases. i work with the u.s. attorneys's offices in new york, and sometimes we communicate. you don't want to run into a double jeopardy problem if you're going after the same person for the same exact offense. and sometimes we work together. so it's a combination of things. but we're -- good communication makes for good law enforcement.
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but this is better off left to the work of the prosecutors. and at some point, when we have something to say, we'll say it. >> you are a democrat, and outspoken critic of the president. have you been worried at all about some of the reporting on this hypothetical collaboration that suggests that maybe that mueller working with you is somehow him tipping his partisan hand? that you being involved in this investigation would make it a more partisan investigation than it would otherwise seem? >> no. i think we've got an extraordinary record of having gone after many, many democrats since i've been in office. we've expanded our public corruption work. and sent to prison sitting state members, all democrats. so we have -- corruption is a bipartisan enterprise in new york, and in most of america. and so we follow the facts wherever they lead. but we're not, you know, we're
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not prejudging everything. we're looking at everything. i think we've tried to approach this administration by focusing on the merits of decisions. we try not to personize it. if he's going to wrongfully end a program that benefits hundreds of thousands of young people who shouldn't be punished, we're going to go after him. he tries to eliminate health care for millions of new yorkers, we're going to go after him. we keep it on the merits and keep it on the substance. this is not personal. >> eric schneiderman, will you sit there for just one more second? we'll be right back. attorney general of the state of new york. we'll be right back. haven't you ever wanted something more barry?
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flonase sensimist. ♪ we're back with new york state attorney general eric schneiderman who announced a lawsuit against the trump administration on behalf of new york and 14 other states and d.c. to try to preserve daca, to prevent the trump administration deporting the d.r.e.a.m.ers. attorney general schneiderman, thank you for sticking with me. because new york is the financial capital of the country you as the state's top law enforcement official in new york have a whole bunch of interesting jurisdictional stuff that you may have access to. a whole bunch of stuff that may look like stuff that is of national concern. arguably can also be on your plate. i'm going to ask you about carl icahn, famous investor, famous new york figure and former trump adviser. if carl icahn, there's public
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reporting about this, your office said this issue was on its radar, if he were to be investigated for potentially self-dealing, to goose the market for his own financial benefit, is that potentially a new york state investigation whether or not the justice diplomat decides to pursue it as a matter of public integrity? >> it's -- we're obviously aware of the circumstances. but again, we don't comment on potential or ongoing investigations. but in many cases that involve dealings in the market, new york and the federal government share jurisdiction. so that's pretty common. i've per seed a lot of cases involving fraud. spitser got famous for doing it. there is overlap but as to the specifics of this case, we don't comment on anything. >> that would be in general, not speaking about the specific
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case, you would expect there are discussions, whether collaborative, with the justice department who would pursue that. >> we try to communicate with our counterparts to make sure we don't step on each others toes or that could interfere with the results of a good investigation. >> thank you for being willing to sit here and listen to questions that you can not answer. good luck with the daca lawsuit. because each day she chooses to take the stairs. at work, at home... even on the escalator. that can be hard on her lower body, so now she does it with dr. scholl's orthotics. clinically proven to relieve and prevent foot, knee or lower back pain, by reducing the shock and stress that travel up her body with every step she takes. so keep on climbing, sarah. you're killing it. dr. scholl's. born to move.
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25 years ago this month in august 1992, florida got hit by a category 5 hurricane, hurricane andrew. in addition to the immediate concern for human life and well being, there was also a lot of worry at the time about this place. this is called turkey point, florida's oldest nuclear power plant. and as the eye of that hurricane passed over the turkey point nuclear plant in 1992, some of the facilities around the reactor buildings took a beating, including stuff that was supposed to be hurricane-proof. within ten miles of the plant, within ten miles of turkey point, there were 41 warning sirens set up for the nuclear plant. of the 41, hurricane andrew blew down 36 of them. they left the plant running on backup generators for more than a week in order to keep the reactors and the fuel cool. debris from the storm blocked the access road to the plant. one of the 400-foot smokestacks
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on that nuclear plant got cracked in half. it was supposed to be able to survive 235-mile-an-hour winds. you can actually see the crack there. and that crack was very worrisome because if that smokestack had fallen, it could have hit the crucial emergency diesel generators that were keeping the plant cool. in the end, the smokestack didn't fall, and radiation wasn't released, and the nuclear units remained in stable condition. but that was a scare, what happened at turkey point nuclear power plant in south florida in 1992 when a cat 5 came calling. 25 miles away in miami, there was utter devastation from andrew. the hurricane ripped the roofs off houses and flattened whole neighbored. andrew changed florida in terms of who lives there and what people expect from extraordinary storms. and you can in fact see that in the lessons that florida took from andrew, which are all the more important tonight as hurricane irma, which is even
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larger than andrew, now churns through the atlantic toward florida. after andrew, florida toughened up the state's building codes. they now have some of the toughest building codes in the country, and it matters because hurricane irma is heading right for them. this is going to be a test. we'll see how the tougher building codes stand up. hurricane irma has been at 185 miles an hour since middle of the day yesterday. tonight local officials have declared mandatory evacuation in miami-dade and miami beach. today a spokesperson for turkey point tells the press any decision to shut down the nuclear plant will be made well in advance. of the storm making landfall they haven't decided what they're going to do yet. the current forecast calls for irma to hit the coast of florida sometime on saturday as it churns through the caribbean tonight. prayers and planning, lots of planning.
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all right. that pretty much does it for us tonight. i do have one note for you about tomorrow's show. on tomorrow night's show, we are
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going to have some news to share about hillary clinton and vladimir putin of all people. not that we have news about hillary clinton and news about vladimir putin. we actually have news about >> good evening, rachel. one of the news developments during your hour to add to what you were reporting earlier in your hour is that facebook is now cooperating with the special prosecutor on the information that they have on the advertising that you were laying out, this possibly $100,000 in russian-based advertising about the presidential campaign. >> and it's an interesting -- it's an important development in the story because earlier tonight facebook was saying that they were cooperating with all investigations and that they were in communication with congressional investigators. facebook had briefed congressional investigators on this. but they weren't commenting at all on whether or not they were working with the mueller investigation.

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