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thanks for being with us. joining me "mitchell reports," craig melvin is up next. >> good afternoon to you. msnbc headquarters in new york. we have a lot going on this hour. first, bracing for irma. worried and anxious folks in parts of south florida are getting out as the most powerful atlantic hurricane ever continues churning toward them. it's leaving a trail of death and destruction in parts of the caribbean. the deal maker, president trump says he's committed to continue reaching across the aisle after cutting a deal with democrats on the debt ceiling and funding the government. we will hear from the president just a few moments from now. and grilling trump jr. the president's son meets in private with senate judiciary committee staffers to talk about that meeting he arranged with a russian lawyer who promised dirt on hillary clinton. what he said and did he break
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the law? president trump again will be taking questions from reporters in the rose garden this hour. we will have his joint press conference with the leader of kuwait in just a few minutes. we start down in florida. all eyes are on irma. she is a giant category 5 storm forecast to slam south florida, head on this weekend. at least nine people across the islands in the caribbean are led. st. martin reported to have sustained, quote, wide scale destruction. officials there are just starting to assess the damage. puerto rico did not take a direct hit but more than 1 mell pool are without ow pow they are afternoon. the island's ports remain closed and commercial air traffic is still suspended. irma's winds have dropped slightly but are still in the devastating 175 miles per hour.
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heavy traffic clogging florida roadways starting last night as many visitors and residents headed north the try and get out-harm's way. governor rick scott with this ominous warning just last hour. >> this is serious, and we cannot take chances. it is life-threatening. this is not a storm you can sit and wait through. >> president trump meeting with the emir of kuwait being posed by hurricane irma to south florida. take a listen. >> -- concerned. we are working very hard. we have tremendous groups of talented people there. the people of florida are like the people of texas, louisiana, and you've soon how the people of our country have reacted under this tremendous pressure and these horrible things that we call hurricanes. this is something that is probably bigger, not as much water but much more power than harvey.
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if governor has so far done a terrific job. they've prepared. we don't know exactly where landfall will be but we think we're as well prepared as you can possibly be. >> a team of reporters fanned out across the southeastern part of this country, the islands as well. we start in florida. miami could be directly in the path of this thing. how much depends on when hurricane irma makes its turn toward the north. msnbc's mariana atencio is at miami international airport. that airport appears to be packed. >> craig, it is growing increasingly chaotic here. it is almost hard to walk so, many people trying to leave south florida as fast as they can. they're heeding the governor's warnings, they need to get out, they know they need to get out quickly. airport remains open, but the cutoff point 35 miles per hour of sustained winds, that is when
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miami international airport will close down. as you can see from the scene behind me, airlines are already canceling many flights. there are people here that are pretty much stranded in florida. they've spent the night here with their families, people trying to get out with their pets, their small children, and they literally have told me we will go anywhere as far away from this monster storm as possible. for those people whose flights have been canceled, though, the option of leaving south florida by car also increasingly challenging because there is a shortage of gas all around miami. many gas stations that we've seen one after the other with these signs that read "no more gas" so that is also a big problem. i want to g around here to show you how big these lines are. we of been hearing from people, many of them, they have gotten flight, they have their boarding passes but the flights to get -- the lines to get on the flights are so long that many of them have had to miss their flights. i also want to remind you miami
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international airport gets a lot of tourists. there's a lot of foreigners here who have never dealt with a storm this big. even for florida, the possibility of a category 5 storm directly hitting south florida is something that reminds people of hurricane andrew, and we've already heard the governor of florida saying the storm is bigger, stronger, and faster potentially than hurricane andrew. that's why you're see long lines at the airport. it's growing increasingly hard to leave. that window to be able to leave and get far from this storm closing in. people know it and they're trying to leave however they can. >> mariana, any word on how long that airport will stay open? >> we've kept hearing the same thing. once those sustained winds reach 35 miles per hour, that's when the airport will close. but we're already hearing from people that the airlines are telling them that crews, you know, flight attendants, they don't want to come here because they fear they will get stranded
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here so that's why you're getting so many cancellations. we of already heard positive stories in the sense that people who came here five, six hours ago, they have been able to get tickets out of here. but, again, that window is closing and if you didn't come to the airport five, six hours before your flight, there's not a good chance you'll be able to get on because these lines are impossible to get through at the moment. >> at the scene at miami international airport, mariana atencio. kerr are i sanders in lake okeechobee, florida. set the scene there. you had some interesting and important information this morning on what airlines are doing to try and prevent price gouging. >> reporter: well, the airlines say they are not raising prices, they're not hitting people up, trying to gouge them. in fact, they have to report the way they're putting prices out there to the government. -- so that they can't say let me
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go in the computer and change this $200 flight to $1,000. what is actually happening according to the airlines and the government seems to back this up, is that people are discovering when you buy a last-minute air fare they're lot more exopinionsive than planning a vacation three weeks out. so a lot of people are discov discovering last-minute air fares can cost more than $1,000, $1,600. that's the way it works. many people in the business world, of course craig, you and i in the news business, understand how prices can get inflated when you say i need to leave now, in our case for a breaking news story. but let's talk about where i am right now, craig. so it looks very calm right now because i'm at lake okeechobee, but what you see off in the distance there is that dike, the berm of earth. that's created by man here. lake okeechobee is the second largest freshwater lake in the lower 48 just after lake michigan, to understand how big it is. it's like an ocean here. and it is relatively shallow.
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it's about 13 feet right now. but the concern is that is all manmade over there, that dike, and it's the army corps of engineers that's responsible for it. the governor of florida and the army corps of engineers say that they believe, with some confidence, that the dike will be able to withstand what is coming with irma. but they're not going to guarantee anything and especially after what happened in katrina. again, in katrina, we saw levees and dikes give way. to understand the precarious nature of this dike here, the federal government with the army corps of engineers has had an ongoing project here to the tune of $800 noll shore this dike up. the concern is if the dike gives way the water rushes out and there's about 40,000 people that live just south of the lake and they would find themselves with a wall of water coming at them much the way we saw in katrina. and so those who live if the shadows of the dike are being told it's best for them to
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leave. the army corps of engineers has a group of inspectors that are out looking at the dike, monitoring it e. they know that there's a potential here. they're watching it as closely as a possible. at the end of the day, you know, when there was a storm here in-1926 and the dike wasn't here yet, the lake gave way, there were thousands of deaths. so this is a real threat. it's one of great concern. only in the wake of katrina do i think we understand visually what a dike giving way in the middle of a storm means for people who live in the region of where that water rushes. >> kerry sand national weather service his home state, the state of florida. we'll be checking in with you a lot over the next few hours and days. dave price is also standing by, meteorologist for wnbc. dave, let's take a look at where irma is right now and where we think this storm is headed.
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>> these are very different types of storms we're looking at, irma versus harvey. harvey was a major rain event. the concern here especially along lake okeechobee is this is a wind event. this is a surge event. and with winds so powerful, that's what everyone's worried about with respect to those dikes. those are precarious and that's why lake okeechobee, a major concern for everyone in florida. you asked mariana when the airport in miami is going to close. she responded when the sustained winds reach about 35 miles per hour. we're anticipating at this point that's what's going on around the country may happen saturday morning. we're going the watch all of that. there is a lot we know about the storm but there is even more so we still don't. let's go through what we have
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down at this point. this is the very latest. irma, category 5 storm, location, about 120 miles southeast of grand turk island. winds now down just a bit. the pressure is up just a bit. winds sustained at 175 miles per hour. moving west-northwest at a clip, 16 miles per hour, relatively consistent with the numbers we of soon. now let's track it and see what may affect the strength and direction of this storm once it begins to work in our direction. next up, battering turks and caicos with a storm surge upwards of 20 feet. we of soon what it has done to some of the islands like st. martin, st. bart's. that's a major concern as this storm begins to barrel through. then we head to sections of the southeastern bahamas. we are avoiding the mountainous
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areas of hispaniola. good for haiti and the dominican republic, but, again, these are high mountains. they can tend to shear off some of the power and strength of this storm. that's not happening. it's staying in warm waters so it continues to work its way to north and to west and if we look very carefully here, early saturday morning, still not onshore at this point in cuba. nothing to break it up. but the shear that can come from some of the winds it may encounter as it begins to roll in our direction. what remains to be seen is when this turn begins to happen, that is going to determine whether this is a storm that stays in the atlantic, hetds up the spine of florida, works its way west, and that is the potential to make the scenario very different for literally tens of millions of people. the reason we have watches and warnings and all of this discussion days and days before a hurricane like this hits, craig, is not because we have certainty, because we know
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exactly where it will wind up, not because people are placing on it, but to give people the time to plan, to escape, to relocate if they need to. so again, it's not because we know for sure that this is going to plow into miami or lauderdale or west palm or go to west but it's to give people the time to get out. as we of soon from these live reports, especially that last one at miami international airport, when you wait till the last minute, sometimes you are not in control of your own destiny. we have gas issues, we have people who are trying to get out, who simply can't at this late hour. but we are advising anyone who does have a plan, who does have an alternative, given where we think this storm may ind woo up, to definitely get out. we would like nothing more as weather casters than to be wrong on this storm because as we learned with matthew, just about a year ago when we expected a strong storm to roll through
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florida, it jogged out 40, 50, 60 miles. that's the difference between devastating hurricane-force winds and a quick-moving tropical storm. but look at the size of this storm right now. it means business. this is 400 miles from one end of the cloud shield to other. and so as this rolls through, think about that strength, think about that width, florida's only 150, 160 miles wide. so let's divide that may happen into three key scenarios. first is an east coast track. if it stays out in the atlantic wide enough, we have a very quick-moving tropical storm rolling through the shorelines and inland through sections of florida. we'll still see major effects in key largo, miami, west palm, melbourne. the worst impact stays offshore. landfall possibly stronger as you wind up in the carolinas than it would be if it plows
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into land. so that's one track. the second track at this track is a central track and this is most likely the worst-case scenario. that rolls up through devastating winds, life-threatening storm surge, and finally less likely a west coast track. bad news for -- and catastrophic effects on the west coast of florida. but, again, at least least like i at this point. we are not going to know much more, i don't think, until saturday morning. we'll continue to tweak but the real answers will come early in the morning on saturday. >> dave, again, all eyes on mare right now, by we are also keeping an eye on two other storms in the atlantic. what more do we know about those? where are they right now? >> we have hjose, which is in te shadow of where we saw irma. that continues to be a strong hurricane. most likely that may affect sections of the leeward islands and spin out into the atlantic.
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then we have katia, which is going to affect sections of mexico. but by a long shot, without a doubt, it is irma where all our eyes are on, but also a remind ore all the of us at this late stachblg stage in the hurricane season, it is often the busiest and the waters are still warm temperatures 85 to 89 degrees. there is plenty of fuel to power very strong storms even in september. >> all right. dave price for us there with the track and lots of other information. thank you. our friend and colleague rehema ellis is standing by right now. rehema is in the ball bah hams, which could start to feel the impact of irma this evening. how are folks there getting ready for this thing? >> reporter: they are feeling anxious and there's a lot of anxiety. we'll have jeff pan over. you see men taking these five-gallon jugs of water to take over the folks who have been waiting in line.
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first started lining up here at 3:00 in the morning. hours before this facility opened to get water. the news this morning, we hard from the national emergency management system in the bahamas that the entire country of bahamas is now under a hurricane warning. and they have evacuated a thousand people from the southeastern islands and they say that the south will start to feel the impact of this storm this evening. the authorities also said they expect such severe devastation that there may not be anything for people who have been evacuated to go back to. that's why people are paying close attention. they're also paying close attention pause of what they've already seen this storm do. i think we have some pictures for you, craig, of what happened in barbuda. what we heard there from the prime minister of barbuda, saying the island was zef stated. nearly 90% of the truck churs totally damaged. in addition, they have the virgin islands, st. martin, st. thomas, st. martin, eight
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people dead, 23 injured, and they say that number most certainly could go up. in prv pr, 68% of the customers there are without power. people are worried about that coming here. >> close to a million folks in puerto rico. rehema ellis where they are clearly getting ready in the bahamas. thank you so much. president trump talking about this storm, this impending storm there at the white house a few moments ago. we'll get back to the president in just a moment. in washington, a very busy day. his son, donald trump jr., reportedly telling senate investigators that he set up that meeting with the russian lawyer because he thought it was important to learn about hillary clinton's fitness to be president. his words. will he be subpoenaed to testify many open committee? the senate set to vote on that harvey funding and debt ceiling bill this afternoon. a deal that the president struck with democrats much to the chagrin of a lot of folks in his own party.
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president trump set to hold that joint news conference with the leader of kuwait in just a few minutes. he'll take some questions from the press when it happens. we will bring you live.
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president trump expecting to hold a news conference with the emir of kuwait.
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on capitol hill, donald trump jr. appearing before senate investigators today, the topic, that now infamous meeting last june where he and campaign officials met with a russian lawyer. in a statement obtained by nbc news literally just moments ago, trump jr. says he was looking for damaging information on hillary clinton that would question her, quote, fitness for office. but he added, according to "the times," ta he e nhat he never c with the russians. kasie hunt and jake sherman joining us now. kasie, what else did donald trump jr. say? >> reporter: well, a bombshell day of testimony on capitol hill. remember, his story and the president's story about exactly what the purpose of this meeting was has changed quite a bit over time. but the explanation, the official explanation, and nbc
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news we should say just obtained a copy of this statement, petr alexander getting that statement that donald trump jr. gave to the judiciary committee, i want to read you part of it. "to extent they had information concerning the fitness, character, or qualification of a presidential candidate, i believed i should at least hear them out. depending on what, if any, information they had i could then consult with counsel to make an informed decision about whether to give it further consideration." i think that's important to note, craig. he ha s not saying, look, i was going the take this information and then use it. they are trying to make a distinction and say, no, i would consult with a lawyer after i received this information to see whether or not we should have used it. and this, of course, potentially tries to give him a little bit of an opening. remember how many members of congress, critics of this meeting would have said if they ever received an overture from somebody like this lawyer that they would immediately call the fbi, for example. so essentially they're trying to make the argument here that he
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would have handled whatever information he received responsibly, but, again, the official explanation he's give heerg that, okay, yes, fine, i met with this woman because i was looking for dirt on hillary clinton. >> lawmakers that you're talking to, jake, are they buying this explanation? >> reporter: it depends who you talk to. i spoke to one person who said how could you say you're not colluding when you met with a person who is related to russian government who said they had information on hillary clinton? so i guess what's your definition of "is," right? what's your definition of collusion? but a continued distraction for president a di where he's just come off cutting a big -- moderately big deal with congressional democrats and he has this going on on capitol hill. >> jake, the russian lawyer at the meeting, she spoke recently with nbc news. she says that the independent counsel's office has not spoken with her just yet.
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take listen. >> translator: no. i haven't received any such requests. you know, the more i analyze the situation i find myself in the more i'm beginning to feel as if i were in some show, a movie. i play the lead, but no one has discussed with me or shown me the script. >> any idea why no investigators have talked to her yet, jake? >> no, i have no idea, but she shouldn't know the script. this is an independent investigation that's happening in the united states. it's an independent investigation which she's obviously not a part of the investigatory side so it wouldn't be particularly surprising to anybody if she didn't know what was going on or where it was headed. i think we've seen from news reports and from reporting our own and many other outlets that this investigation could be going in several directions, could be look at financial ties, obviously looking at the russia question. so i think this is all over the place and the tentacles are in kind of every area of president trump's life. >> kasie, the senate
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intelligence committee leading of course this higher profile investigation if you will, its republican chair, north carolina's richard burr, he somed a bit dismisive of donald trump jr.'s value. he said in part, telling the "washington post," "tell me what value there is so to that when i'll entertain it." does trump junior have value? >> i was there when the senator was make those remarks. he was talking to a group of reporters. his argument, essentially, is bringing him in now is in the wrong order. i do think there is some merit to that when you talk to staffers behind the scenes, the intelligence committee has been meticulous in make sure they talk to all of the peripheral figures that they feel they need to talk to before they bring in the principals for the interview. and look, the judiciary committees and the intelligence committee, they do business a little differently and have different kind of goals and objectives, so to a certain exdidn't, richard burr is talking about his own
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investigation, when does he potentially need to bring donald trump jr. in. he hasn't said he doesn't want to talk to him. he's said, look, my investigation is not in the space where we would get most value for bringing him in right now. on the judiciary side, i think t's important to remember, democrats' goals is to get donald trump jr. to testify in public. and so part of why they were careful about their participation in this staff interview is that they, i'm told by one senator, there is at least some kind of a commitment from chuck grassley, the judiciary chairman, to put him out in public and make him answer questions. they don't want to jeopardize that commitment in any way. >> kasie hunt on the hill and jake sherman as well. jim clyburn of south carolina is the number three democrat in house. he joins me from capitol hill as well. congressman clyburn, always good to see you. thanks for your time. >> thanks for having me. >> to politics in a moment but let's talk about our beloved south carolina. irma, storm swells already being
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seen along the beaches there in the palmetto state. your district surrounds charleston. how is preparation going right now in south carolina? >> i understanditis going very well. i want to thank the governor for issuing a declaration of emergency. hopefully people will listen and respond properly. as you know, since hugo, we've put in place -- that was 1989, i think we've put in place some safeguards to make sure the evacuation routes are clear and that shelters are available but people are to listen and respond in a way that will save lives, and i am very, very hopeful that we will do so. i'm headed home hopefully tomorrow to help with family and constituents.
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hopefully we will be prepared. >> let's turn to politics now and this budget deal yesterday. surprising to republicans, surprising to most reporters. was it surprising to democrats, did you know or sense that something was coming? >> i don't think so. you know, people have to be careful and not get hooked or mixed up with surprise. we were hopeful, but i'm not too sure that any of us saw this coming. we felt sure that this is the way things needed to be done and we thought it was tremendous opportunity to have bipartisan approach to this and not do it in a rushed manner. we cannot afford for this country not to honor its debt. we cannot afford for people not
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to have health care. with we cannot afford for the government to shut down. all these things not ought be done went you're in a crisis mode. the best way to avoid the crisis mode was to put in this stopgap measure to give us now until december 15th to create some bipartisan approaches going forward. and so i congratulate both parties for doing it this way and i thank president of the united states for responding so positively. >> congressman clyburn, to hear president trump yesterday refer to senate majority leader -- excuse me, minority leader and the house minority leader with chuck and nancy do you get the sense there's some sort of new camaraderie between the white house and democratic leadership? >> well, i don't know. last night i was sitting with some of my colleagues from new york and one of them said to me,
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yvette clarke, because we were talking about this, and yvette said they are not strangers, speaking of president trump and leader schumer. so they are not strangers. they've known each other for a long time. i don't know, maybe some of this carried over the nancy pelosi as well. >> the president's comment about no action against dreamers with no work permits for six months, do you take that as a sign that something big could happen as it rlts to the 800,000 so-called dreamers in this country? >> i know there's an environment for something big to happen. and i think that for the speaker of the house the say that this is something he wants to see get done, i know via pelosi wants to see it get done, and schumer is very passionate about this. and i do know kentucky a little bit, it's a little bit like south carolina, so leader
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mcconnell ought to have his farmers feeling better as well as some other people in his state. and so i think the atmosphere is here for douse something in a very positive way and i am very passionate about the dreerms as well. as you know, craig, i used to run the farm worker program in south carolina in my other life and so i know what commitment so many of these people have not just to make a living in this country but to helping protect the values and security of this country. and so they love this country and many of them, this is the only country they have ever known. as for us to hold the children responsible for sins of their parents defies who and what we are as a nation and those people who believe in the fundamentalism of christianity and judaism ought the practice
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what we say we preach. >> we will leave it there. congressman jim clyburn, assistant democratic leader if south carolina. always good to see you. thanks for your time. safe travels. >> thank you so much. president trump and the leader of kuwait said to take questions just minutes from now in the rece east room of the white house. the president will likely be asked about some-what we just talked about, the dreamers, hurricane irma, perhaps reaching across the aisle on a regular basis to work with democrats. when that prersz happens we will bring it to you live. also, "the art of the deal." was the spending deal with democrats actually the president's way of paying back paul ryan and mitch mcconnell?
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we are waiting again on that news conference from the white house. a live look at the east room as journalists and others gather. one of our producers on the phone. andrea mitchell, host of msnbc's "mitch mandrea mitchell reports day at high noon on msnbc. bring us up to speed. this meeting between president trump and the leader of kuwait, why is it important? >> one reason is to try to
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resolve this problem with qatar, where kuwait and the saudis have aligned, among other, the uae as well, the emirates, against qatar, which is a key u.s. ally. the president weighing in on the side of the saudis and kuwait. rex tillerson and of course general mattis, the defense secreta secretary, trying to balance that back towards qatar, which is now being blockaded by their persian gulf adversaries really. this is a break in the alliance, a critical alliance, the largest u.s. base in the region is in qatar. we have 1,000, 12,000 troops flying missions against isis, missions to syria, to elsewhere in the region. this is a critical problem to try to resolve. only been getting worse. it's undercut the secretary of state and led to a lot of issues that he might consider resigning
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over the fact he was so badly undercut by the president here. >> after those two comments we're told the two leaders will take some questions, president trump likely to be asked about daca, likely to be asked about irma. also likely to be asked about this deal that he struck yesterday with chuck and nancy. what do you make of that? >> extraordinary. this is the first time we of soon the supposed author of "art of a deal" actually make a deal, the first ever effort to reach out to democrats since he became president and the first time he's accomplished something big on capitol hill at the risk of infuriating his republican allies of course mitch mcconnell and paul ryan. he's having dinner with speaker ryan tonight, at least that's on the schedule. the fact is it was just infuriating to them. it was in a meeting right after a photo opportunity. according to reporting from our to when you say team and congressional reporters kasie hunt and of course hallie jackson and kristen welker, all
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of them reporting from their sources that the treasury secretary, manuchin was completely blind-sided because he was siding with the republican leaders, wanting a longer extension of the debt ceiling, six months to 18 months, plolitically advantageos to the republicans and instead he opt god with who he called nancy and chuck in a remarkable interview with report es on air force one and again giving a shoutout to the democratic leaders when he was in north carolina yesterday. this was a complete break the republican leadership. mitch mcconnell made it very clear yesterday that he said this was a deal that the president worked out with the democrats and i will support it. so they're already having votes so the senators have been voting to try to knock down an amendment from rand paul, which would have required that the fema money that all the money being thrown to hurricane relief some $15 billion now we're told in all added on to a total of 15 added on to the original $8
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billion down payment. but that to fund fema, to continue funding through this emergency at least until december in a continuing resolution would include a debt ceiling extension for three months, which is what the democrats wanted, and also to have this hurricane relief. so it's remarkable that he did this in complete defiance of the republicans. mitch mcconnell making it very clear he was not happy. >> chief foreign affairs correspondent, andrea mitchell. always appreciate your insight and perspective. for more analysis of what has been again by andrea's account and others' a pretty remarkable past 24 hours in politics, our panel. cornell, i want to look at the president's i general ee's age
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wednesday. the trump no action tweet on daca that nancy pelosi reportedly asked for, the budget deal on wednesday mep appeared with a democratic senator up for reelection in her home state even calling heidi hite camp a good woman. he has an infrastructure meeting with new york and new jersey leaders most of whom are democrats. includes his new buddy chuck. schumer, president trump, looking like a couple of old new york friends there. cornell, what do you make of this last 24 hours or so? >> i think it's rally fascinating pip think what donald trump is doing is telling speaker ryan and leader mcconnell that he's a republican party and that they ultimately need him more than he needs e thm. when you look at going into a midterm election and the core base of the republican party and base turnout is everything for
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midterm elections, because it's not presidential election, midterm election goes way down, it's about whose base turns out. right now donald trump understands that he's a lot more popular with the core base of republican voters than are mcconnell and ryan. it's clear shot across their bow that he is take front and center on the republican party and he's saying to them, guys, you need me a lot more than i need you. and quite frankly, it's stunning because every democrat i talk to was caught completely off guard by what trump did because from a political standpoint i think it could have real ramifications going into the midterm elections if his base thinks that he's against mitch mcconnell and he's against tim ryan -- paul ryan. >> tim, there are several theories and i apologize in advance if i have to cut you off and go the east room, but several theorys or combination of theories that have been offered for why the president
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made this deal with democrats. for instance, this is paul ryan today. take listen. >> the president made a game call yesterday he thought it was in our country's interest to have a bipartisan support this a bipartisan package to deal with these ongoing hurricane disaers. >> so that's one theory. then there's this from a white house aide, according to our chief white house correspondent hallie jackson. top white house legislative aide marc short is now describing a cordial meeting today in the oval, says trump wanted to, quote, clear the decks for tax reform. which is it, tim? >> it doesn't clear the decks for tax reform to keep this fight alive and have it come up three months from now. what would have cleared the decks is a long-term renewal. i think cornell had it exactly right. he's trying to show mitch mcconnell and paul ryan who's in charge. this is "the art of the deal."
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this is who trump is. he lets you join into a partnership with him and he makes sure you know not only are you the junior partner but that he doesn't really care if you're happy with him or not because you depend on him. this is what -- you know, his first two wives learned and what all the other people who have gotten into business with him learned, all the people -- he went bankrupt and didn't pay back. 's paul ryan and mitch mcconnell are learning it again and again that they don't really get to be his partners, not even junior partners, maybe be on his side when he feels like they should be in his good graces. >> there is no power sharing in the trump white house. mr. clemens, daca, of course, big news this week. it's been a bit difficult to discern pree precisely where the president stands on it. how would you characterize the president's current position on dreamers? . >> wishy-washy. the president is undefined. i think the president did not go
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out and dial into where most of the country including most of his base is on the issue of the d.r.e.a.m.ers, and he came out with a position that, you know, almost instantly regretted and came out where sessijeff sessiod others were talking about the constitutional violation president obama had engaged in from there perspective, then that tweet that the president said if congress doesn't act in six months maybe i'll revisit this and fix it, but he kind of undermined at least publicly the ability to g back and correct it given the fact he said president obama didn't have the right to it and, you know, in a sense implying that he is the chief executive of the country won't have the ability to do it. but the one thing that's very consistent about donald trump is his inconsistency. i think, you know, particularly after the so-called nancy/chuck meeting he's tried to send messages to the d.r.e.a.m.ers, don't worry about your situation, people will take care of it. if i were them, i wouldn't trust him. >> kristen welker is standing by in the east room of the white house where, again, this news
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conference is supposed to get started any moment now. kristen, there was the this tweet from the president and some are surmising the tweet was at the behest of the democratic minority leader of the house. >> reporter: that's right, craik. already a muddled message out of the white house on daca. the president may have added to some of that confusion with this tweet. let me rad it to you and then we'll hear what nancy pelosi had to say. the president tweeting for all those daca that are concerned about your status during the six-month period, you have nothing to werery about -- no action. it was nancy pelosi who asked him to send out that tweet. here's what she had to say. take a listen. apparently we don't have that.
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she said i told my colleagues i did ask him and then, boom, boom, boom, the tweet appeared. the question is what does the president want to see happen with d.r.e.a.m.ers? he said if congress can't do this in six months i may revisit the issue. what is he prepared to sign off on? those are among the questions we will be interested in asking him today. but of course political i speaking the concern among some republicans is that he may have just taken his foot off the pedal in terms of putting pressure on congress because by saying that he may revisit the issue takes away that deadline and, craig, as you know, it's hard for congress to get anything done if they're not working up against a hard deadline. hopefully we'll have the chance to ask him about all of this moments from flo. >> do we know if we'll be able to ask several questions of the president or will this be one of those news conferences it's two questions and everyone goes h e home? >> we anticipate two questions from each country.
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now, sometimes the president says we'll take one or two more questions. of course we always welcome that. so that's what we'll be hoping for. in terps of what we're expecting, we are expecting reporters from each country to get two questions, to get two questions, craig. >> the news conference that was set to happen about 20 minutes ago. they're a bit behind schedule there and that gives us an opportunity to pay a few bills here at msnbc. we'll take a quick break and be right back. (vo) my name is bryan. i'm proud to make dog chow in davenport, iowa. dog chow's been a part of my family's life for over 40 years.
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and we're back again, waiting on this joint news conference between president trump and the ruler of kuwait. this is the white house east room. our panel is back. so is steve clemmons and kristen we welker standing by fer us there. i thought of this a few days ago, president obama speaking out on social media. he did the same thing when it appeared as if obama care was in danger. you know president obama a lot
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better than most folks. why have we not seen or heard from him as this administration, in a lot of days, is really trying to dismantle many parts of his legacy. >> i have not actually asked him, but i think it is that he is falling in the pattern of what most presidents tend to fall into and that is to step back and not be out in front on these things, because it can be polarizing if you have a president out there. that is thankfully not just how we do it on the democratic and republican side. i think things that are important to the president, like the affordable care act, that gave millions who were uninsured insurance, and the dacca program that protects these hundreds of
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thousands of young americans, i think you do see him steps out in a way that sort of breaks with the path, but i don't think you see any president wanting to do that multiple times. it is just not healthy for our dm democracy. >> but when president trump is out of the white house i think you can concede it will not be the same. >> hopefully in four years president trump is out of the white house and i think he will still do a lot of tweeting. >> steve bannon also back in the news this week. i want to play something that he said about another top aid. not thought to be long for this white house. >> i'm talking about gary cohen and some other people. if you don't like what he is
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doing you have an obligation to resign. >> they are promising a bloody september, it is just talk, or can they really up end this administration's agenda? >> donald trump continues piling it up with the democrats, he doesn't need the free caucus. i think that is what just happened. they pulled off a deal that surprise leadership. if they are not going to give him the strokes he he wants, he can circumvent all of them. he will have enough democrats that come along with him and he has neutralized the freedom caucus. i don't know how long will he will continue that pat everyone.
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i don't think by in means he can upend what just occurred. >> kristen, are you still there? >> do we know why this is running so far behind? >> we don't know why it is late, but this is not unusual when you have foreign leaders talking. they talk for the length of time they feel necessary. there is certainly a number of issues they will be addressing. clearly the crisis in the region is that kuwait is dealing with. it is something that kuwait has been deeply endaged agaged and to broker other issues. president trump expected to press him to effectively stop taking on north korea guest workers. a lot of thorny issues on the table, craig.
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they will talk for as long as they feel necessary as they hash through some of these issues and they will come out again, not unusual for these press conferences and it's not unusual. >> chrkristen, thank you, steve what are you watching and listening for here. >> he has been playing a role as a mediator and doing relationship counselling. i'm not necessarily worried in how he has been doing, i'm more interested in whether or not the administration itself has come to terms with what it thinks about the gulf cooperation council split. that gcc is vital to us. we have a lot of troops in qatar. they have been very helpful on many fronts. rex tillerson, jim mattis and others are circumspect.
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so i want to know if trump has evolved, changed, or moved his position. that is a primary position in his discussion. >> cornell, belcher, welcome to the team as well, thank you. thank you for joining us this hour, my friend kris jansing picking things up now. >> we're watching two major stories unfolding at this hour. they are calling it a nuclear storm barrelling toward the state of florida. it has already decimated barbuda and st. maarten. president trump spoke about the threat from irma just a little while ago. >> we don't know exactly where it will be landing, where land fall will be, but we think we're as well prepared as you can possibly be. it is


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