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purification, clothes. when i was there, the supreme order there was not necessarily active. >> what do you mean? >> they were kind of milling about and they were present, but i didn't get a sense that a lot of people felt safe because of the police officers. >> dustin, thanks for the work that you're doing to help others there, and frankly for the ability to communicate with people in the u.s. virgin islands to at least let our viewers in the nation know the devastation. when we keep talking about how so many people have dodged the devastation of this hurricane, lots of people didn't dodge anything at all and we need to show that. dustin, thanks very much. dustin vichi for us in the u.s. virgin islands. >> thank you so much for watching this hour of "velshi &
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ruhle." >> right now our great friend andrea mitchell with us right now in the studio. andrea? >> thank you very much. andrea mitchell reports. no food, no water in the florida keys while they wade through the floods. jacksonville faces devastation. >> we're concentrating on security, we're concentrating on shelter, food and debris removal. security sanctions reports that russia is smuggling fuel to north korea even though america claims victory for watering down north korea. >> by far the strongest sanctions against north korea. but we all know that these steps only work if all nations implement them completely and aggressively. and second thoughts.
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the hillary clinton book tour. her very personal take on what went wrong. what if joe biden had been the nominee? >> well, he wasn't. he ran in '08 and he didn't run this time. if he wants to run in the future, he can do that. >> good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in new york. we're track the aftermath of hurricane irma today. thousands of residents making their way back into the florida keys, unsure of what is still standing back home. crews are clearing debris, checking critical bridges, trying to avoid any new incidents in loss of life. in georgia, south carolina and along the northeast florida coast, waters are beginning to recede and reveal damage from a full day of hurricane force winds and flooding. millions of floridians are still without power. more than 500 shelters are still operating across the state. for the latest images from the
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caribbean, we enforce the grim reality for residents of st. martin, barbuda and the virgin island. at least 29 people now dead and uncertainty for the hundreds of thousands that remain. let's start with aryana atenzio back in miami after a tour of the keys and mary ann jackson in jacksonville. ariana, what did you see from the air? >> reporter: andrea, i just landed here in miami about 30 minutes ago, and we just caught a glimpse of the devastating images of the aftermath of this monster storm in what is perhaps one of the most pristine, one of the most beautiful places in our entire country, the florida keys where this monster storm first made landfall. and we saw some areas of the keys, especially marathon, florida in our short flight, completely ravaged by the
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130-mile-per-hour winds that irma packed on sunday when it hit the keys. our journey started in key largo where you already started to see a lot of the devastation. the keys on the overseas highway was completely blocked with traffic. first responders aren't letting the entirety of the traffic in right now, but you can see the desperation in many of the residents, in many of the families who did evacuate to try to get back in to survey the loss of life, to see how their homes are. we do know that around 10,000 people decided not to evacuate the keys. it doesn't seem like a lot, but when you take into account that the entire population of the keys is 80,000 people, we're talking about roughly 10% of the population, and we don't know who is accounted for and who isn't. one of the most shocking images that we saw was first responders on the ground. one fire truck making their way down a road in kankakee.
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we got close enough to see the faces of angst in these firefighters' minds as they went door to door, knocking on every house to see who was accounted for and who wasn't. we do know the county is allowing some residents back in, mainly in key largo and island mirada. if they bring proof of authentication, bringing people back in slowly, because they don't know how their loved ones or family members are. we saw incidents just beyond marathon, florida pieces that had this beach view completely devastated. it's hard to imagine what residents are going through there because it looked completely isolated. we know many of them don't have water, gas, spotty cell phone
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service. we up in the air had cell phone service up until about island marada, and once you went south from there, there was no cell phone service at all. and access is making everything count right there, because that access is a highway that patches of it are completely blown up after this monster storm. it's going to take months, if not years, andrea, for this very pristine part of florida to recover from hurricane irma. andrea? >> ariana, thank you. the pictures are just devastating. our nbc news crew was one of the very first to film the category 4. >> reporter: i wanted to confirm why it's so dangerous to get residents back in here. boats like this are blocking the road and this is a pretty common
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scene here in cudjoe key. i want to show you how high the water came. we're hearing anywhere from six to eight feet. look at this. this was a shoe that was floating around, got stuck in some trees. watch your step here. and this is a front yard. we've talked to the family that lives here. they were telling us about how they had to fall back to another area. this is a refrigerator. that guy back there is rory. hey, rory! >> hi. >> is this your refrigerator? >> no, sir. >> do you know whose it is? >> no idea. >> unbelievable. nbc's morgan radford up the coast in jacksonville where the flooding was so intense. morgan? >> reporter: andrea, we're here in downtown jacksonville. if you look at the building just behind me, we spoke to the building manager a few hours ago, and he said this entire first floor was filled with about five feet of water. right now we're at low tide, so
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this is the st. john's river just to my right. but last night and again this morning, we were standing in the river because you can see these concrete columns have completely doubled over. we were one with the river. it almost felt like we were at the beach. the waves were cresting over the wall here and flooding the streets, making these streets and this downtown grid nearly impossible. it's primarily the loss of power. we've seen 5 to 6 million people all across the state of florida without power, and fema says that's probably the equivalent more closely of 15 million people who truly don't have power. about 500,000 people without power here in jacksonville. it's in addition to the floodwaters and also that power, which has people concerned about when they're going to really be able to begin that reconstruction process. we spoke to one family who said they've been here almost 30 years and they said they've never seen anything quite like this. what did you think when you saw
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the destruction, eli? >> i thought there was going to be a tree falling on our house, and we were going to get super scared because we had to sleep in the hallway, and we heard like a big crash, and we got scared, and i was like, this is the first biggest hurricane i've ever been in my whole life, too. >> reporter: eli, do you have any final thoughts? >> if there's another big hurricane, we're going to have to survive it. >> reporter: just like you did this one, huh? >> uh-huh. >> reporter: eli is a pretty cool kid, and he told me not only did he protect his mom during irma, but he protected his mom during andrew. schools are hoping to open up at the end of the week. back to you. >> he is a pretty cool kid. now in charleston, rehema went farther up the coast than
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expected. rehema? >> while many people boarded up their homes and businesses and sandbagged a lot of places, this is what they found yesterday. at one point the water went all the way up to that front door. the city says at some point they had 70 streets in charleston that were flooded like this and worst. now the water is receding, the cleanup is beginning. and the port of charleston, the coast guard says they've reopened the port of charleston, but they want mariners to be very careful because a lot of stuff got dumped into the rivers from the atlantic, so you have to be very careful about what you're doing. schools remain closed today but you have intersections like this. so many people in the community trying to get the power back on and the drains open so they can get this water out of here. andrea? >> rehema, thanks to you, to
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gadi schwartz to all of you. the mayor joins us now. mayor, it's good to see you. what do these people face now, especially after the attention of the country, to say nothing of the television crews. after we leave weeks from now, what is the hard part? >> i just -- when you watch those images, my god, it's just unbelievable. i've been through many, many big storms, and the wrath of mother nature is awe-inspiring every time. what comes to my mind right away is how much our thoughts and prayers have to be with the folks who are isolated. the folks of jacksonville need something different than folks in the florida keys. right now they're isolated, without food or water, they don't have communication. the rescue effort is intense and it's really hard for first
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responders who are going to be in different times. one of the things the nation is struggling with is how to handle two storms at once. the folks over at houston and port arthur and beaumont still struggling. we have upper florida and all the way to south carolina. i think the nation is up to it, but it's going to require all of us to get on the same page and make sure adequate funding is there not only for first responders but for the electrical grid as well. if you have 1400 people without power, if it lasts 24 to 48 hours, it's not hard to get back at least into some period of normalcy. we're not out of the worst of this yet. some areas didn't get hit as badly as others, but as you can see, some places got completely devastated. it's going to require us to really lean forward for them. >> of course, new orleans revisited what it meant to be below sea level after katrina.
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after andrew, there were new building codes in much of florida, but does there have to be a focus on reconstruction and where residential areas can build? >> i think we know a lot more now post-katrina in 2005. people thought that was just because we were below sea level. now you saw houston. you saw sandy really hurt the northeast and now you see florida devastated. these storms are going to continue to come our way. we have to build more solid, we have to build better. as you can see, each one of these storms is different. they'll bring you a different threat. in harvey, it was about pounding rain in a short period of time. but here is could be an electrical grid problem. in the keys it's a massive wind event, and we have to be prepared to respond to all of
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those. >> i know you worked with local leaders from the schools. how about opening the local schools and reaching out to those kids? there is not only the loss but the trauma in this. >> one thing we didn't pay enough attention to in katrina is the impact on young folks. parents move them out of the way and get back as soon as they can to their comfort zone. the mental health sign to what citizens feel after these storms is something we have to pay particular attention to. your whole life is sdruktd, oou lost everything. in some cases you get a sense of security that we took for granted. it's important to rebuild
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originally what you lost. the instinct is to rebuild exactly what you had. in new orleans, it took some time, but it wasn't without tremendous sacrifice, under pain. we can lift but it going to require the whole nation to lift the people of florida, the people of houston, south carolina and all the other places. >> thank you, mayor, from the great city of new orleans. lessons learned. the u.n. ratcheting up sanctions on north korea, but not as much as we want. for dad" per roll more "earning something you love" per roll
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these are by far the strongest measures ever imposed on north korea. they give us a much better chance to halt the regime's ability to fuel and finance its nuclear missile programs. but we all know these steps only work if all nations implement them completely and aggressively. >> that was, of course, the u.n. ambassador nikki haley announcing new sanctions against north korea. it's only the latest round, but again, is it too little, too late? it's all after north korea conducted its strongest nuclear chest, which they claim was a hydrogen test. the latest measures were watered
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down after threats from china. our former white house chief of staff and great friend of the show, great to see you as head of the institute of monterey. first to north korea. is north korea going to pay for these sanctions which, again, do not cut off all oil exports to the north? the fuel subpoepply that comes russia and also from china. and will smuggling be stopped on boarding these ships? >> i worry about whether these sanctions will do what we hope them to do, which is make north
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korea hurt as a result of the sanctions. so far the sanctions that have been applied, they've been able to get around them with the help of china, with russia, with the black marketers of one kind or another. they've been able to get by. if you're going to do sanctions, you have to do sanctions that are going to hurt. these sanctions were compromised because of the need to get a vote from china and russia. but in compromising those sanctions, i worry about whether or not they really are going to get north korea's attention the way we want to. >> what about a military threat? we've seen that the president was briefed a week ago sunday after that big nuclear blast. he was briefed by his military leaders, the defense secretary john mattis came out and said, you know, we do have military operations. we could annihilate north korea if we want to. some took that as a military
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threat, others took it as deterrence and a warning. how would read what the united states is signalling? >> the problem is right now there aren't very good options available. that's what we've all recognized. i mean, we would love to have a diplomatic option, but that's not viable at this point. the military options, we know what the consequences would be, the potential of a nuclear war or the destruction of seoul and south korea. those are unacceptable. i think the only course of action here is to tighten the noose around north korea in terms of containment and deterrence. we've got to continue to build up our military, we've got to strengthen our presence both in south korea and japan. we've got to create a missile shield that can actually prevent these missiles from leaving north korea. and we've got to be able to do that, and at the same time, obviously, strengthen the
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sanctions so that we can get the attention of north korea in order to try to move some kind of diplomatic solution forward. unless we do all of those things, unless we tighten the noose around north korea, we are going to see a north korea that within a year is going to develop an icbm capability, which will be a direct threat to the united states. >> there is even some suggestion by some former cia officials that they may already have that capability. they certainly have the icbm range. we've seen that in their tests. they may do another missile test this weekend. that's possibly on their anniversary. they also may have the warhead testing done. >> i think that the cia has the best intelligence that is
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available right now, and i don't question the fact that north korea is hell-bent on moving guard to developing that icbm that can reach the united states and develop a miniaturized nuclear weapon that can be put on the top of that icbm. i don't question whether or not they're directed at getting that done. how far they've progressed is probably a matter of some question, but i think right now, barring any kind of change in what north korea is doing, that they are going to achieve what they want to achieve here, which is the ability to directly attack the united states of america. >> one of the things that has been so striking is there is no criticism from the president or top officials of russia. russia is reportedly cheating on the sanctions, not to the degree possibly that china is, but cheating, and they don't seem to get any kind of sharp words coming from the president.
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in fact, the president just welcomed the new russian ambassador without any kind of announcement, but the russians put out a white house photo saying it was a warm greeting when his credentials were presented in the oval office on friday. >> well, that's been a cause for concern for a while since the administration has come into office, has been the unwillingness to directly challenge russia. russia is an adversary. mr. putin is doing everything possible not only to undermine our institutions here by the hacking that's gone on, but he is not in any way cooperating in terms of the effort to go after north korea. he continues to be a threatening force in other parts of the world. there is no question that russia is an adversary and they ought to be pointed out by the president of the united states as a country that is working directly at odds with what we're
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trying to achieve in the world. particularly now with north korea. there are two key players here that could be very helpful in terms of dealing with north korea. one is china and china putting a lot more pressure on north korea than they have been willing to do, and the other is russia and their willingness to be able, particularly with regards to fuel supplies and other things, be able to cut off those supplies. those are the things we need done. if north korea is going to pay attention to the need to develop some kind of diplomatic approach here. otherwise we ought to just focus on our allies, on south korea, on japan, on the united states developing the military capability to be able to make clear to north korea, if you provoke us, we are prepared to end your regime. >> and, finally, i want to ask you about a very moving op-ed
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that you wrote about the dreamers. you referred back to your own family, to your father the immigrant experience in our country and to those serving in the military. could you expand on that? >> andrea, as you know, i'm the son of italian immigrants. this country of ours is a land of immigrants going back to our forefathers, to the pioneers, to the many immigrants who have come to this country. as a matter of fact, donald trump's grandfather was an immigrant to this country. his wife was an immigrant to this country. we are a land of immigrants. for these children of immigrants that are not guilty of anything other than being the children of the parents who wanted them to have a better life, we have dreamers who are part of the
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u.s. military and willing to put their lives on the line for this country. we owe them. we owe them the opportunity to be able to be protected in this country and to be able to enjoy that american dream that all of us have had the opportunity to be able to achieve. that's what they deserve. >> you wrote that the best option, even if the president has a change of heart, would be to reach out to john mccain and lindsey graham and others to protect the military dreamers. would that be an option? have you talked to any of those people on the hill? >> i talked with people that have talked with them. we need to look at those options. we need to do something certainly to give them protection in this period where they face the possibility of being deported in six months. clearly this is a moment when hopefully both democrats and republicans and the president will work together to develop a
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solution here that can protect these innocent, young people who believe in what the united states of america is all about. we owe them the ability to really enjoy what the american dream is all about. >> thank you so much. as always, it's great to see you. leon panetta, thank you for being with us today. >> nice to be with you. we're now waiting for a photo opportunity. the tape will be fed in shortly. it's the malaysian president. apparently the president did comment, according to the poole report, about north korea and the sanctions a small step, which is actually a lot closer to being accurate than the comments made by the administration about the sanctions vote. the 15-0 unanimous vote by the security council last night. someone who knows a whole lot about all of this is msnbc
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political analyst in the john mccain state department. we have a few minutes before we bring in the president but he's being brought in on corruption charges, yet is a welcome visitor. arguably, he is a key ally on trying to sanction north korea, but we have to see -- >> he's also an interesting ally. one of the things i did was start an isolation organization with malaysia which they agreed to do. >> let's listen to the president. >> the president of malaysia and his very distinguished delegation with us today. we're talking about trade, very large trade deals. we're working on one deal where between 10 and $20 billion worth of boeing jets are going to be purchased. general electric engines will be purchased and many other things.
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also, malaysia is a massive investor in the united states in the form of stocks and bonds in the stock exchange. they have to be very happy because we're hitting new highs on almost a weekly basis, so we're very proud of our stock market, what happened since i became president, so i congratulate you on those investments. i just want to say it's an honor to have you here, it's an honor to have your delegation with us. i believe you'll be at the united nations next week, a lot of folks will be at the united nations next week. it's an exciting week. i thank you for that. but i want to thank you for the investments oyou've made in the united states. also the prime minister has a major role in not allowing isis, or as you say, daish, into the
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united states. he does not do business with north korea any longer, and we find that to be very important. we had a vote yesterday on sanctions. we think it's just another very small step, not a big deal. rex and i were just discussing not big -- i don't know if it has any impact, but certainly it was nice to get a 15-0 vote. those sanctions are nothing compared to what ultimately will have to happen. so thank you, everyone, for being here. we appreciate it. mr. prime minister, it's a great honor to have you in the united states and in the white house. thank you, everyone, for being here. thank you very much. thank you. >> the president, of course, welcoming the prime minister of malaysia and saying those sanctions at the u.n. are nothing compared to what is going to have to happen. there's already been reaction, by the way, pushback from north
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korea in geneva today about all the threats that were voted by the u.n. with me is an official. they put up a big dmamplt. then back down when there were threats of veto from russia and china. >> the trick is to get russia and china to sign along. people exaggerate the importance of sanctions. sanctions are incredibly emphasized as an instrument. when you tighten the noose, as my friend secretary panetta said, what you're doing is hurting the people of that country. you're not necessarily hurting the government. one reason that china blocks sanctions like that is they
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don't want regime change. sanctions traditionally, the way they've been used in china and other places, was to cause upheaval in the population. that's not something we necessarily want. >> and how slow it is. because a lot of people don't understand the sanctions timetable. they will have a missile in a year or two years. the sanctions to take effect would take three or five years. >> completely changing subjects now, i want to tap into the brits, the dutch, the others at st. martin's. who is going to come to the aid of cuba? certainly not its patriots.
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that's's very interesting idea. i do think your point about cuba is a very well taken one. speaking of the marshall plan, we have great relations. we would create much better relationships with cuba by actually aiding them in this moment of crisis rather than rebuffing them. as you mentioned, they have offered to help us with previous oil spills. i think this is a terrible missed opportunity with them right now. >> there seems to be no diplomacy. >> there's no one at the state department to make that call. they're rescinding the idea to have an ambassador there. they haven't moved on that. they're really not moving on it at all. >> rick stengel, thank you so
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and for inside scoop today, we've got a real scoop, a big
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scoop. hillary clinton's campaign memoir about her stunning loss to donald trump already generating plenty of headlines. but now her latest admission to susan page of usa today that she's convinced associates of donald trump's campaign helped russia meddle in the election. our inside scoop is, of course, with ann gearen, political correspondent, and amy chosic, "new york times" reporter who all of us were with us on the campaign. the two years we were on that campaign from a listening tour in new hampshire and iowa on. susan page, let's talk first about your conversation yesterday, i believe, with hillary clinton. >> that's right, we talked for almost an hour. the first time i interviewed hillary clinton was 25 years ago when i was working for newsday. i've interviewed her many times since. i've never seen her less
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guarded. she's not looking to run for another campaign. i also think she's just a bit sad. she's crushed by losing that election. >> the point is she really does connect the dots in a way that obviously robert mueller has not. we haven't seen evidence yet, but this is the suspicion. is she pointing to anything in particular, the recent admission from facebook, perhaps? >> she actually told me that she's more convinced since she had to finish the book not only that russia tried to meddle in our election, i think we all agree on that, but that there was cooperation and coordination, some sort of understanding with trump associates. and in that way, she wouldn't repeat the word collusion, i used the word "collusion" in my question, but she said, "i'm convinced of that. we'll have to wait for all the evidence to come out for that to be perfectly clear to everyone else." >> i was very struck when i interviewed jeh johnson yesterday about why they didn't
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blow the whistle sooner, and there is a lot of criticism about that, criticism in her book as well, and he said they did not see that piece of it. that he was focused, as a homeland chief, on whether or not there was election machine meddling in particular precincts, but not the advertising buys. they were just not aware of it, he claims. >> hillary said in the interview yesterday that she thinks it's possible, although not yet known, that there was tampering with voter rolls,s there was tampering with voter return. but we do know more now about meetings between trump associates and russians. we know more about the facebook ad purchases. there are a lot of things that have come out in recent weeks. >> and i want to bring you both into it. ann, first the whole subject of russia. i was just talking to leon panetta about why inexplicably this president refuses to criticize russia during the
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campaign, before and after, and that's a big story today as well. >> yes, and i'm struck by the portion of the clinton book in which she talks about what she considers to be a missed opportunity during the election campaign and during the obama administrati administration, of course, at the same time, when intelligence agencies brought their concerns to congressional leaders and she specifically takes senate majority leader mitch mcconnell to task, of course, only by name. she said he was derelict in his duty not to treat this as a national security concern but instead to treat it as partisan politics. we all know that, really, nothing happened directly as a result of that initial airing of concerns about russian interference as it was happening months before the election. >> and one of the most surprising things that happened
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yesterday where our capitol hill team was talking to tim kane about the hillary clinton book. look at his response when asked if he had seen it. >> reporter: senator, have you been able to read hillary clinton's book yet? >> i haven't but i'm psyched. i've seen stories about it but the excerpts are not necessarily a fair reflection of the thing, but i'm excited to read it. i don't have an advanced copy but i'm going to buy one. >> he is going to line up at a bookstore and buy one or get one on line. amy, we were all at the rollout of the tim kane campaign. how is it possible she wouldn't have sent her running mate a copy? >> there were excerpts running around for weeks. tim kane doesn't play into this much. she has nice things to say about him and his wife but she doesn't
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go into detail about her running mate. if you'll remember, that week if florida was one of the high points in her campaign. people praised the choice, he spoke spanish. >> he spoke spanish a lot better than other people on the campaign spoke spanish. there was another interview with hillary clinton where she actually unloaded on ivanka. let's listen to that. >> everyone associated with him, they're either on board with that or they're not. and if they're not, they need to be speaking out or leaving, but if they remain silent and just give lip service to contrary points of view, then they are part of his agenda and should be judged and held accountable for that. >> and that was in answer to a question apparently about ivanka, amy. you're writing a book. you've just about finished a book, your personal reflections on all of this, so we await that. but this whole experience for those of us who cover the
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campaign for american greeters is such a push-pull about the view of hillary clinton, all the mistakes, the moves she ak no z acknowledges, as well as the ones she doesn't. >> she gives us her fair share. the review said partly it reads as a manifesto and you see it in the 2008. in 2016 she said she thought voters had come around more but now reflecting she doesn't think that's the case. >> more to be continued with ann gearin, susan page and amy chozik. coming up, disaster relief. retired u.s. marine corps
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through hours for water. we don't get nothing from the city. nothing. no food, no water, everything is closed. >> all the gas stations are packed, okay. we have a curfew. we need to come out of the houses at 12:00 and be back home at 6:00. that means that period of time is the time we have to get whatever we need, water, food, gasoline. and everywhere that you go is a long line. >> desperation is growing across the caribbean islands as residents there face severe food and water shortages as well as power after hurricane irma. this has prompted the u.s., the dutch, british and french governments all to launch a vast military response. the u.s. alone is sending five warships, more than 80 helicopters and thousands of pounds of supplies. joining m ining me now is retir marine corps general john allen. good to see you again, general, thanks very much for being with us. >> andrea, good day to you.
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>> relief efforts during the south asia tsunami crisis in 2004 and of course you're now a fellow at the brookings institution. how should the u.s. respond? should we only worry about the u.s. virgin islands and let the rest of the region rely on their patron governments?andrea, firs say my thoughts and prayers are with all the good people of southern texas who have survivaled hurricane harvey and of course the people of the caribbean and florida and the east coast of the united states in the aftermath of hurricane irma. no, to answer your question, the united states has enormous capacity to provide support in this regard. and i believe i've just heard that we've gotten one of the first request from a foreign government for the united states to evacuate foreign nationals from one of the caribbean islands as well, the british virgin islands. so it's not uncommon at all. it's not inconsistent with the capabilities of our forces to be able to not just take care of ourselves but also as necessary to extend the american hand to
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our allies and partners in the region to assist them as well. >> now, it's humanitarian issue as well for cuba, which is hardly an alley, not of this administration, despite the normalization of relations under president obama. but the devastation, from what i have seen in cuba, from our own footage there, is just incredible. >> that's right. >> there's been not a word, not a hint, not a comment from the state department or the white house about anything that has happened so close to our shores. >> well, i would hope that we'd be very seriously interested in what's happening in cuba. and i'll remind your viewers, andrea, that in the aftermath of the great work that we in the united states and others of our allies did in the south asia tsunami, we saw an enormous improvement in political relations between the united states and indonesia in particular. but other states in the region as well. here's an opportunity for us.
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here's -- we've made the decision to improve our relationship with cuba. we ought to use this opportunity to try to improve our friendship with this island, with this nation, and try to reduce the suffering of these people as well. obviously we take care of our own citizens. we take care of the citizens of our allies, but we have capacity and we should be thinking about how we might be able to assist the cubans as well. this is the moment for that kind of outreach. >> now, your storied car ee eee career, you were involved in the six-party negotiations with north korea in the past, and i want to ask you about all this talk about military options. is this hollow talk, is this deterrence, what's the bottom line here? >> el wiwell, it's never hollow. we're very serious obviously and the military capabilities we can bring to bear in this crisis. i think the secretary of defense, the national security adviser, the u.n. u.s. ambassador to nato or to the u.n., they've been very clear
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that while we're prepared to defend ourselves and we will defend ourselves, we hope that we'll find a way for a diplomatic solution in this process. but we have the capability. and my guess is that very detailed and exstetensiove plan have been drawn up to defend our allies, japan and south korea, to defend our own forces in the region if necessary. >> despite the fact that kim jong-un does not seem to be heeding these warningings? >> we don't know what he's heeding, frankly. one of the difficulties we have is a lot of bombast and rhetoric that increases the temperature of the crisis when, in fact, we ought to be trying to cool this crisis and create diplomatic entrees and diplomatic language which could bring us to some kind of an outcome that all parties would seek to achieve. >> general allen, great to see you again, thank you, sir. >> my pleasure, andrea.
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and thanks for being with us. that does it for this edition. remember, follow the show online on facebook, on twi twit @andreareports. good afternoon, i'm chris jansing at msnbc headquarters in new york. local officials warn of a potential humanitarian crisis in the florida keys. there's no food, no water. around the state, millions are now without power.
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and thousands may still be forced to evacuate. we'll take you there. what happened? hillary clinton's long anticipated memoir for her loss in the presidential election has been released. we'll talk to campaign insiders about who is really to blame. president trump set to break bread with a bipartisan group of senators tonight. on the menu, tough talk on tax reform. let's begin with the humanitarian crisis facing the florida keys. three days after hurricane irma slamled into the u.s., the devastation is vast. residents are slowly returning there today. even as sewage, water and power are still out. fema's director this morning painted a dire picture for the florida keys. >> 25% of the houses have been destroyed and 65% have major damage. basically, every house in the keys was impacted in some way or another. this is why we ask people to leave. >> truly devastating.


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