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busy news day, there may, may possibly, be a plan to up do damage the president tried to inflict last week on the health care system. recalling the president renoungsrenoungs the policy change, a, costing $200 million, b, causes millions to lose coverage, and, c, raises health insurance costs for everyone in the country. it was expected to raise premiums by 20% in the next year. oh. and all that for the bargain price of $200 billion, which we didn't otherwise have to spend if the president just left the darn thing alone. so that's bargain policy change announced by the president a few days ago today.
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democratic senator murray and aleck ander announced a bipartisan plan they came up with to basically undo that policy change announced by the president. used to be when announced, that would make that thing more likely to pass. less controversial, but these days, anything bipartisan is seens as an affront, even when it's relatively specific sort of boring policy fix like this. so they have made the proposal, and now we let the partisan food fight begin. while american family and businesses wait to see if that intentional damage and hike in costs is going to be inflicted on us all or not. we learned sean spicer was interviewed by robert mueller and request whether the trump campaign was in on it.
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"politico" was first to report that spicer spent, quote, much of the day speaking with mueller's team today, and, you know, i have to tell you, that really is as much as we know on the story. just to level with you, god's honest truth, about my reporting on the mueller mueller's special counsel investigation, his process they are oh make as all get out. anyone who says they know what's going on inside the mueller investigati investigation, that person is part of the mueller investigation or that person is lying to you. they really don't leak. so we don't really know anything about what he's up to, but i will tell you, there are two prevailing theories inside the news business as to what it means that white house chief of staff and sean spicer have now
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had their mueller interviews. one theory is that maybe this means robert mueller is close to the end of the planned interviews. because in a strategic sense, at least in an abstract sense, if anybody's expected to telltales about a serving president and how that president got in office, you mite expect to get tales, not from anybody still currently serving in the white house. you might expect to get tales called by people who were humiliated and fired from the white house and might have an ax to grind against this white house and the president. all right. anybody treated horribly and publicly humiliated and chewed up, spit out, and fired by the current white house and since then has no new job, that person might conceivably hypothetically be a ripe target for the investigators trying to get dirt on the white house, trying to build a case against the biggest
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fish swimming around in the white house. that's one prevailing theory. maybe former administration officials, maybe them being interviewed in the case of the mist of people who robert mueller is interviewing is getting to the exciting part. that's one theory. alternate theory is less dramatic, but easier to believe. it's possible in the alternate theory that they might actually be early interviews in the mueller investigation simply because it's less a legal fight, less resistance and less red tape to go through to secure cooperation and interviews from former administration officials than it is to talk to people receivering in the white house, with the white house defense to fend off investigations. so, i guess we don't know. anybody who tells you they do know shines you up or something. trust me, they don't know.
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so the opaque tactics, the pace of the inquiry, how close they are to the public accounting of what they found, really all is still a black hole to us, and what we know thus far with former white house officials is an interesting mix. based on the reporting, weir told they interviewed the chief of staffs of the national security council. we've been told they interviewed prebus, former chief of staff, and now from "politico," we know that former white house spokesman had his mur inteller interview as well. don't read more than that than what's to be reported. there's a a lot of speculation, but not a lot known what mueller's doing. more on that subject throughout the course of the hour. we start tonight in 2006.
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in modern american electoral history, 2006 is a real swing of the pendulum moment. george w. bush elected in 2000, his party did up expectedly well in the 2002 midterms. usually a president's party loses seats in the midterm. that was not true. republicans did great in 2002 because of the mood of the country following the 9/11 attacks. in 2004, george w. bush was reelected, but it was time for another midterm in 2006, and in 2006, after the three previous elections, it was no mystery that the country was due for the pendulum to swing back towards the democratic party's electoral prospe prospect. we knew democrats would be doing well in 2006, but they exceeded even though very high expectations. in 2006, democrats did great. they took complete control of congress; nancy pelosi first
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u.s. woman speaker of the house in u.s. history, and although the bush administration had another two years left to run, in political terms, they limped to the finish line. the president and vice president so profoundly unpopular by then vice president cheney all by does appeared from public view for last two years of the george w. bush administration. the president, himself, never sunk approval ratings as low as cheney's but bearly showed his face in 2008 to pick his successor, and part of the reason for that dramatic change in the administration between 2004 re-election and 2006 midterms, part of what explains that swing is the american disaster that was the occasion for this photo. this photo was taken in arizona on august 29th, 2005. president bush and would-be s k
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successor in 2005, eating birthday cake, it was mccape's birthday. the reason the photo ended up being famous, a famous moment from the bush administration. this became famous alongside this picture, which also became famous, the following day from august 30th, both of the pictures, seemingly happy on the surface, both become negative touch stones, disaster touchstones from the george w. bush administration because that picture of bush happily strumming the guitar in california and enjoying birthday cake in arizona, both pictures were taken while hurricane katrina made land fall on the 29th, and on the following day, that was the day that new orleans was absolutely devastatingly hit with flood water caused not just by that storm, but the breach of the levy that protected that city.
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1800 americans died many that hurricane. it was a terrible and immense natural disaster. it was a catastrophic failure of american infrastructure, and it was all terribly come pounded by a disasterous tone deaf late inept response by the federal government. that explains what happened in politics in 2006 and 2008, but it did not take long for people to figure out that was what was going on. it did not take long after the hurricane hit for the country to figure out that what happened there was not just a storm, but it was a failure of our government. >> on the gulf coast, rescues and recovery joined by recrimination. the bush administration stunned by criticism that the initial response was too late. officials on the ground defending the government's spongs, b response, but getting firsthand reaction and look at the rescue
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operations. nearly a week after the levy broke in new orleans, rescuers continued to pull victims off rooftops. in the pitch black of night, and under a sering louisiana sun, with the death toll expected to climb into the thousands in new orleans alone, a local politician said on "meet the press" the federal government's slow response is partly to blame. >> bureaucracy committed murder here in the greater new orleans area and they have to stand trial. >> reporter: the administration admits mistakes were made, and the homeland security secretary says focus must be on ongoing emergency. so no heads will roll? >> tim, in due course, if people want to chop heads off, there's an opportunity to do it. the question i would put to people is what do you want to have us spend time on now? >> september 2005. early september while rescues were underway. while americans were still dying every day.
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eventually heads rolled after the disastrous response. fema director appointed to the job, more of a patronage higher rather than qualifications. he was fired a week after that nbc broadcast we showed you. as 2005 rolled into 2006, that's when the investigations started into what happened. the white house did its own internal investigation. the senate did its own investigation, and in the house, there were some interesting things there. the house got their investigation, their report from their investigation, nay got it out first, making it the most influential of all the official government reviews of what happened. they were first. it also had an interesting origin story. in the house, there was a big partisan fight over the way that investigation would be approached. the house wanted it to be a special select committee involving members of both parties, but the democrats objected to the way the republican majority was
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approaching it, and after considering their options, house democrats decided that no democratic members of congress would participate in the investigation on a formal level. that was the house of representatives report into what happened in katrina, but officially, it was an all-republican house report. looking at the response by that republican administration, and rules of partisan politics suggests that report would be a a whitewash, but that's not what happened. this was the night before the house posted their report of that investigation. you see the headline there." republicans' report on katrina, assails administration response. plan to issue a blistering report wednesday that says the bush administration delayed the evacuations of thousands of new orleans' residents by failing to act quickly on early reports the
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levy broke in hurricane katrina. washington post had the first report that this investigation was going to go this washington. washington post called the report, quote, an unusual criticism by the house gop that generally has not been aggressive in the oversight. the 600 report leaves fault with passive reaction and misjudgment of top bush aides, singling occupant homeland security secretary, the operations center, and the white house homeland security counsel. those parts of the government were singled out, even by republicans in congress. they were singled out as critical failures during hurricane katrina, not just because of the lack of preparedness, lack of caution and recognition and about the magnitude of what happens in new orleans despite the fact the storm bear down on the city for three full days before hitting
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and national weather service and national hurricane center were dead right about what would happen. it's note like the government didn't have a warning, right? those parts -- those specific parts of the government singinged out by this remarkable government report, they were not just singled out because they did not plan right. they were singled out in large part because once the disaster started, they could not figure it out but handled information so poorly. no one knew what was going on. it's not an extraalty in a disaster. if no one knows what's going on, that's a symptom that your disaster response has failed. the breach of the levies in new orleans was specific but crucial consequential deadly part failing of our government. infrastructure failing, but there was a failure in terms of recognizing that it happened and getting people to safety because of it. it was specific how they failed.
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monday morning, the day of land fall. there was a senior member in the helicopter confirming an eyewitness view of the breached levy in new orleans. a fema official. his own agency, fema and homeland security department and white house was somehow unable to absorb that information even from their own senior official, and that had single consequences for americans in new orleans. here's how that house republican report wrote it out, quote, the single most important piece of information was confirmation of the levy breaches in new orleans. beyond importance of the information itself implications of the information determine whether or not the hurricane would be just another bad storm in new orleans or the nation's worst case hurricane disaster. because homeland security failed to anticipate the consequences of the storm and prepare transportation necessary to evacuate flooded city prior to land fall, because they did not
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prepare, the next critical decision point in the federal response became confirmation of the levy breached. if the levy breached and flooded large portion of the city, then the flooded city would have to be evacuated. anything else is delay of the e vagsuation of the city, and that's what happened. a fema official went up in the helicopt helicopter, monday 29th, saw it, confirmed, son ciaed that information to fema to the department of homeland security and to the white house, and that information just disappear. so days rolled on. everyone got a good night's sleep. tuesday morning, the president played guitar in california. after he left california, he went back to the ranch in texas to resume his vacation. vice president had been fishing
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in wyoming. he stayed fishing in wyoming. sounds fun to fish in wyoming. white house chief of staff was on vacation. he was up in maine. and the head of the homeland security department on tuesday, day after land fall, day after levies breached and new orleans started to drown and fema officials tried to notify their own agency and own government of that, on tuesday, homeland security flew to a conference in georgia. why not? not busy. 1800 americans died. and not many heads rolled at all. in fact, quite the contrary. 12 years gone now. the washington post reports that on the white house homeland security counsel, which was singled out for blame, in terms of management of the disaster,
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at the time of the hurricane, the head of the prevention preparedness and response director, homeland security counsel special assistant to the president for prevention, preparedness, and response, the point person on information for the hurricane, the person in charge on the homeland security counsel of managing the flow of information about the storm to the parts of the federal government that were supposed to respond to it, that person, that official was a young woman. her head did not roll after the hurricane, but played a starry role in the reports that criticized the government for their response. she has just now been nominated by president trump to run the department of homeland security. that's a $40 billion budget, 240,000 employees, and encompasses 26 agencies including fema. if confirmed, she takes charge of homeland security department and fema and the rest of it at a
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time that already feels like deja vu, this is gabe reporting tonight for nbc nightly news. >> reporter: this camera shows urgent mission the military in remote parts of puerto rico, children waiting for water. now people are getting so desperate, the epa says they are breaking the sealed off wells in the tine, in an area on the u.s. super fund list, water so polluted, they consider cleanup a priority, although there's a clearly marked danger sign, people are willing to risk it, ripping off the fence. this man from chicago helping with relief efforts comes here at night to get water. >> drenched in sweat, you need to cool off somehow. there's no electricity. >> reporter: they are filling up in a well the epa deemed safe. >> this is the water i drink, for me, my wife, my kids.
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>> here, water is is like, main goal is to ensure public health is protected. >> reporter: adding to the frustration, an investigation underway in another town, puerto rico secretary of state said food was wasted left in heavy rain. >> seeing a dumpster, i just got ang angry. >> reporter: 17% of the island has power, making it hard to pump and treat water as the crisis deepens. nbc news, puerto rico. >> enof gabe's piece there, 17% of the island without power right now. that's a number that's been going down over the last week or two. the portion of power has been dropping. conditions there continue to deteriorate. who is in charge of getting power back on in puerto rico? good question. they picked a mom and pop company out of montana and given
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them a no bid contact to stand up the power grid. fema disenvowing all knowledge of the contract or involvement in the plan. today, the army corp. of engineers announced another company would have contracts stand up the power grid. okay, maybe they'll do it? work together? who is running the operation? at the beginning of last week, we highlighted that state of the art hospital, that docked in puerto rico, capacity to see hundreds of patients simultaneously with 800 highly trained medical staff on board eager and willing to help. at the time we reported that, at the beginning of last weir, that hospital ship was seeing seven patients. it inched up to eight, and now less than 40 people with hundreds of beds. slight improvement, but all this time later, still, hundreds of beds, state of the art hospital beds with state of the art
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highly trained medical personnel prepared to take care of people not being utilized. while that ship is docked in puerto rico and conditions in hospitals in puerto rico are described by doctors as post-apocalyptic. what happened in puerto rico now, 27 days on, is not about a lack of resources. it is not lack of desire of american people or first responders to help, but it is a failed effort in terms of who is running it. in terms of organization. distribution, allocation of resources, and flow of information. you think doctors and nurses on the uss comfort don't want to know where the patients are who most need help? nowhere to get that information? when president trump announced nomination this week to run the homeland security department, says she needs no on the job training, he talked about comparison her role in katrina
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and what he's doing in puerto rico, he was damn right. the public relations company managing her nomination to the cabinet told us tonight that her role in katrina has been vastly overstated and told us that after she left the george w. bush white house, she took those lessons and put them to good use. full statement posted is on our website. for what it's worth. we'll be right back. is. cds, baseball cards. your old magic set? (sigh) and this wrestling ticket. which you still owe me for. seriously? $25? i didn't even want to go. ahh, your diary! "mom says it is totally natural..." $25 is nothing. (alert beep) abracadabra, bro. pay back a friend day is october 17th. get the bank of america mobile banking app today.
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islamic prophesy, it's the site of the apocalypse. it's where the final decisive battle between muslims and nonbelievers takes place, end of the world. the terrorist group isis decided to put the idea and place at the center of propaganda for a long time. this is video of the image of the isis fighting carrying the black fight to the hillside. it's why isis named their propaganda magazine, dabiq, starting in 2014, unless october 2016 when isis actually did have a battle in dabiq and lost. syria rebels pushed isis out of the village of dabiq that isis chose to put as the center of their propaganda. awkward, of course, and the magazine was named off the prophesy about a town they now lost, so they took the easy route and renamed the magazine
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called rumiyah. there's no threat to lose rome and have to lose that magazine title as well. city of mosul in iraq, one of largest of iraq cities. also has distinction of sitting smack in the middle of the tigres river. it was the largest city held by isis anywhere in the world. before isis took over, mosul was home to 2 million people, but once isis took over, the population fell to a half million people because anybody who could get out of there got out of there. isis took mosul, the head of the group delivered a -- well, he'd call it a sermon at a historic mosque in mosul declaring the formation of the islamic caliphate and he was to be the calf life, and that was the first time he appeared in public
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there many mosul. this summer, iraqi forces led a major offensive to take mosul back. iraqi forces were closing in on the center of the city, that historic mosque where he gave that speech, isis packed that mosque with explosives and they just destroyed it. reduce the it to rubble. iraqi forces did retake mosul. them there's raqqa, a city in syria on the banks. euphrates river. it was captured in 2013, and in 2014 isis declared it its capital, a command center in the middle east and west, and televisiit was the place where they held american prisoners hostage. today coalition effort in and around raqqa reports more than 930% of raqqa is supportive of
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isis. they claim they seized control of raqqa. this is a huge blow to isis. dabiq, mosul, raqqa major losses of different types. here's a couple things to think about, though, with this big announ announcement. not saying that raqqa is completely free of isis, but 90% free of isis, and that's an important distinction. according to the new york times correspondent covering isis, these types of announcements have sometimes before oversold in the past. we'll hear more from a comedian in a moment to explain it, but isis is not just in syria and iraq. isis is popping up in one it ration or another all over the world in places like yemen, philippines, in niger where four green berets were killed in an ambush. while this is a victory that the
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u.s. coalition is claiming in raqqa, it's important to keep in mind that this, a, is not the en, and, b, still worth being cautious how we talk about it. joining us now, is the correspondent for new york times covering isis and other terrorist groups. thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> announcements like this are oversold? what do you mean? >> over and over again, we are used to officials getting up on the podium announcing that al qaeda is destroyed or degraded. mosul fell, that raqqa has fallen, therefore, the caliphate is almost over. what the groups have shown us over and over again is that there is a built-in resilience. these are people who are fighting for an idea that's truly energizing them. as they lose territory and lose leaders, we see they keep going. you'll never see me declaring end of isis unless we go a long time without seeing the group
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carrying out attacks. >> how important has it been to strength and ability to project force beyond territory they hold that they actually hold territory? obviously, al qaeda never proclaimed itself a state and hold territory like isis, but how does that work? >> to be short, holding of the enormous territory, at the height, there was an area the size of the united kingdom. to be short, that was incredible important, exciting to the people who wanted to have this idea, saw as the home on earth where they could lead this life according to the very narrow interpretation of islam, so, yes, that's the case, but what isis said in its own propaganda is they point to their origin in iraq in the group that was isis. in 2011, they left behind 700 fighters in 2011. three years later, 2014, we see the declaration of the
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caliphate, and i got an e e-mail from the koelation four days ago, how many fighters remain, and said now, even after the fall of mosul, dabiq, and now possibly raqqa, they still hold around 6,000-10,000 fighters. so that's eight to 14 times what it was when we left in 2011. that gives you a sense of their vast. >> raqqa is lost to isis, 90% becomes 100%, territory they have really truly lost, is there an important symbolic factor? for americans it is because so many americans held prisoner and killed by isis were held in raqqa. >> it's a symbolic blow. it's the de facto capital and place where all of the foreign fighters are. those who join isis go to raqqa, not mosul.
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in those regards, yes, very important, but the group still holds around 4,000 square miles of territory. >> wow. >> almost the size of connecticut. that's not a small amount. still after the battles. the towns in iraq, parts of provinces, so they still hold land. in addition to that, we know they have a presence in libya, in afghanistan, in yemen, the philippines, in west africa, just a couple days ago, isis telegram channel put out a video by a jihadist group never heard of, where they are allegedly in the congo in africa, and asking isis supporters to come join them there in the jungle. >> in the con ga? >> yes. we have no way to determine whether it's real, but that gives you a sense of territory possibilities. >> remarkable notes of caution and importance there.
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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ for pure mystery, this ranks up there. wall street journal reported on a long time republican operative and trump supporter named peter w. smith, journal reported that mr. smith during the presidential campaign had mounted his own independent campaign to obtain e-mails he
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believed were stolen from hillary clinton's private server likely by russian hackers. peter smith tried to contact russian government hackers to see if they had hillary clinton's e-mails. he was not shy about it. mr. smith told the journal, quote, we knew the people who had these were probably around the russian government. peter smith claimed to several soer associates he was not doing this on his own, but in direct contact with members of the trump campaign naming michael flynn, a senior adviser to trump at the time, claiming to be in touch with general flynn and with his son, mike flynn, jr. just a crazy story, right? first details reporting about literally about collusion, about an american trying to contact russian government hackers to collude with them, work with them in their government's attack on our election with the goal of helping donald trump and
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the american admitted he was doing that to a reporter, bragging about it, yeah, i did this thing. the other really strange thing about the story, which was down in the ninth paragraph of the story, a shock when you got there, the detail that the american who admitted to all of that was no longer alive. peter smith died ten days after recounting his story to the wall street journal. hometown paper reports that the 81-year-old killed himself in a minnesota hotel room. found with a bag over his head with a source of helium attached in a suicide note recovered at the scene, smith wrote, quote, all caps, no foul play whatsoever, all self-inflicted, no party had knowledge before the fact, all caps. a worker at the hotel said he noticed smith pacing in the lobby area the morning that he died, quote, seemed like he had a lot on his mind.
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story of peter smith is just as strange mystery in the middle of what is a mysterious time in american politics anyway. this story involves him dying in the middle of it. in the course to maintain dirt on hillary clinton from russian hackers, he listed other americans to help with technical aspects of that project. one was a cyber security analyst named matt tate in a piece, he went on a record how he got involve in the project without knowing what it was about, and i was recruited to collude with the russians. the night he published that, he was -- as we discussed last night, mr. tate was interviewed by the house intelligence committee. in that interview tape reportedly reiterated to investigators that peter smith had ties to members of trump's inner circle like mike flynn and believes peter smith may have been working as an unofficial
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research arm for the trump campaign. we knew that as of last night's show that this guy who worked with peter smith on this effort to collude with the russians, cyber security analyst, spoke with the house intelligence committee. house intelligence. now, today, we learned from the business insider that even before the house intelligence interview, that same cyber security guy, matt tate, also got interviewed by robert mueller. so good news about that in terms of whether or not we're going to get to the bottom of the russian scandal, this appears to be a case where there doesn't seem to be a conflict between the mueller investigation and the investigations run by congress, right? in this case, the interview with special counsel apparently did not preclude him from appearing before the house intelligence committee. that's good news. we're told to worry, and in some cases, we have worried about
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each of these investigations stepping on each others' toes or messing up each others' investigatory flow. good news. both sides proceed as they wish. bad news? the democrats on that committee, matt tate, screaming bloody murder about the investigation getting messed up, and seems like no one's listening to them on that right now, but that's where it's at. hi, i'm the internet!
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in is not tapped out in morse code but amounts to a distress signal. over the weekend, top democrat on house intelligence committee put a warning in the washington post warning there were, quote, growing calls from the white house and outside parties to halt the congressional investigations. that follows another member of the committee who has now call on house speaker paul ryan to step in and put an end to republican efforts to slow down and shut down committee investigations, quote, paul ryan is the only person who can intervene. if he's not willing to, it's just going to continue, and the committee's time report will have an asterisk on it. joining us now, conman, thank you for being here. >> thanks for having me back. >> representing a nice place in california, where my parents live, and where i grew up.
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let me ask you about why you issued similar warnings, essentially, to me mind, signaling that there's pressures on investigations your committee's doing that might be dangerous? >> yes. russia infected the election this year, but we don't fully know how affected we are. the best antedote is unity. unity in the investigation, complete investigation, setting terms of the witnesses and turn over documents and make progress. this unity this year, we have a majority report with a flat earth, you know, set of findings, and our report, probably a line item more what they do in the bipart sapp line of the senate, that this community would help russians come out, and they would exploit that to prove narratives that they did not really attack us, we wouldn't be able to put redporr
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reforms in place. >> one of the things talk about in the show, a totally different story, the example of what happened after hurricane katrina, government failures in 2005, investigations in congress and white house in 2006 including one report from republicans in the house, democrats chose not to participate in it because it was going to be too partisan, but it was a blistering report by republican members about a republican administration designed to fix the problems. a decade ago, at the time we felt like we were in an impossibly partisan country, democrats felt like there was a ray of hope there for the investigations that you're involved in now. do you see silver linings in republicans taking a real party second country first approach? >> adam works tremendously better than adam was when there was their own investigation. >> okay. >> chair munoz interjects
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himself without working with the domes, and that is ob instructive, despite that, we keep going forward. all of us believe that on the democratic side and two republicans that an independent investigation, like we did after 9/11, bipartisan appointed, independent experts, national security, that is the most comprehensive way we can go at this and put in place reforms that we need to do. we did that after september 11th, safer in the country today because bipartisan minds came together outside of congress recognizing it was too politicized. we can do that here. >> can you hang on? i have to ask you about something else. he joins us again in just a moment.
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joining us again, i wouldn't let him leave, thank you for staying with us. >> of course. >> let me ask you about smith's power, a couple obama administration officials before the committee to do questioning with members of the staff, and those received less attention than some of the other people you talked to or associated with in the trump campaign and administration. why have those obama administration officials called in, and how have those interviews gone? >> part of the investigation is to understand the government response. that's important. then we can identify what to do next time hacking interferes a
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important date tomorrow to be on tv. he's going back to the judiciary committee in the senate for the first time since confirmation in january when he told that committee under oath he'd not talked to rugsssians in the campaign, although he had not talked to russians in the campai campaign, at least twice. when meetings were uncovered in march, he announced to rescue himself from the trump campaign or anything else having to do with the presidential campaign because of the misstatement in the confirmation hearing, his solution to the mess created, but senators don't like being lied to, and jeff sessions never apologized or cleaned up that lie he told to the confirmation hearing. well, tomorrow, sessions is back before that same senate judiciary committee again, the one he lied to, for what's a routine oversight hearing. i have doubts it's routine oversight hearings. it starts tomorrow at 10:00 a.m.
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eastern. i will watch. that's all for us tonight. see you tomorrow night. >> my assignment at 10:00 a.m. eastern tomorrow, which i did not know until you just gave it to me, but >> you know from your time in the senate that if there is one thing that senators never forget, it's being lied to. >> uh-huh. >> especially by a witness under oath. and the way that jeff sessions handled, that he never apologized, never retracted it, never corrected the record. he just tried to make it better with this little recual thing. i have a feeling that's going to be a very hot seat for him tomorrow. >> it is. it is. and like you, he will be watching. thank you, rachel. well, the president of the united states today promised to attack the united states senator, a member of his own party. and the president warned us about it, told us something about it. about the attack that he hasn't yet launched. that


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