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start marking theirs up next week, so it all could go to a vote before thanksgiving, actually. >> casey hunt in d.c. that does it for me, headline white house with the nicole wallace starts right now. hi, everyone, it's 4:00 in new york, it's listen almost exactly one year since donald j. slump won the presidency and the russian contacts with trump campaign officials is becoming clearer by the day. one more new revelation about contact with russians and the widening circle of trump age who knew about them. we're learning now carter page who trump himself described as a former campaign adviser told his colleagues during the trump campaign about his contact with russians, those advisors
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included cory lewandowski, hope hicks, and jeff sessions. page's testimony refutes his own public account of his interactions with russians and months of insistence by the c campaign that no senior campaign officials knew about them, a fact not lost on adam schiff. >> about two days before coming before congress, he said that when he went to russia as a private citizen, there was no mete meetings of any consequence, it was basically your talking to the man on the street. but now when they have released the transcript, he met with people as high as the frprime minister of russia. >> long time bodyguard and confidant keith schiller who left his post at the white house just two months ago, all of this has we continue to learn more about the scope of russia's
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support for president trump throughout the campaign, which the wall street journal reports began on day one of trump's candida candidacy. with me here at the table, jim o'brien, msnbc contribute. and msnbc national affairs journali journalist. and a former aid in the george w. bush white house and phillip bump political reporter for "the washington post" is here. ken delaney, let me start with you and talk about the potential ripple effects from the revelations that cart page, did tell hope hicks, cory lewandowski, the then campaign manager and jeff sessions, the sitting attorney general who's already wrapped around the axle of his own corrected testimony
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before the committees that oversee the justice department. >> nicole, i just think it makes it very difficult for the trump campaign, now the trump administration to argue that they were not aware that there were these russians circling around these people, they're calling them low level figures, i mean carter page popadopoul popadopoulos, carter page said i was just clearing it this with these just to avoid anywhere misunderstanding, but we heard that jamey gordon said he tried to block carter page from going to russia, because he realized it was a bad idea, it was a bad appearance, and that gordon went around him and we now know it was cory lew wan dlewen dow sky.
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so its much different than carter page has been portraying for these many months and it's clear that trump officials were aware of these russian contacts, nicole. >> phillip, let me put up your piece, you write in the "washington post," the carter page testimony -- russians were supportive of his campaign and/or wanted to help him win. when do you think we stop with this nonsense that there was no contact, there was no coordination and when do you think the white house makes the full pivot. this pivot we have been talking about for two years was never going to be about being a scoundrel and being a statesman, it was going to be about saying there was no contact with russia, and then turning around and saying, well, collusion isn't illegal? >> i don't think there will ever be a pivot toward acceptance, you would need a smoking gun and a body and you would need 1,000
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things to get president trump to admit to collusion. >> we don't have a smoking gun and we don't have 1,000, but we have a lot. we have something between 1,000 and a smoking gun and nothing. we have carter page, jared kushner and don jr., so we have more and more each day. >> and we have michael cohen. my point is that donald trump is never going to say, yes, people on my campaign worked with the russians. he didn't say it at the outset, even after the don jr. meeting was revealed from the trump towers, he even said i love being given dirt on hillary clinton from russian officials. i don't think donald trump is every going to cop to it. >> why not? >> that's asking me to read the mind of president trump which is a difficult task. but i think it's up to the
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american people to determine to the extent of what donald trump -- >> one of the people that may not be able to read donald trump's mind, but make it as close to the truth as anybody. is bob mueller who's going to want to know why he told a lie from aboard air force one to describe his son's meeting at trump tower with the russians. where do you think that intersects with all of the mi malarkey and bloologna that kee coming out of the white house? >> it gets at both the potential for collusion, certainly there was some intent on the part of donald trump jr. as you suggested to actually get something from the russians in this meeting that could be used to damage hillary clinton. that is as close as we get to collusion, we don't see the
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followthrough, we don't see the execution, but wasn't for the lack of trying on the part of the campaign. it also gets at the other key area where there is exposure in donald trump's inner circle, if not with the president of the united states himself and that is this idea that there was an effort to cover up the effort at collusion, the effort to work with russians to get something of value, we talked about the changing accounts that they had in explaining retroactively almost a year later, what this means was about, what donald trump jr. knew, and what they got out of it. it still changing to this day, with the key russian lawyer who was in that meeting. changing her account of what was discussed there so that is something that mueller is really going to have to -- he's already looking at, he's really goc ingo have to unpack in order to bring this case as close as we think it could potentially get to the
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president himself. >> i want to play you kellyanne conw conway's story, circa september of last year. let's listen and see how the facts have changed. >> it's certainly not a part of the campaign that i'm running, we have many fabulous people as part of our national security and foreign policy team and he's not among them at trump tower. and if he's doing that, he's certainly not doing it with the permission or the knowledge of the campaign, the activities you described. >> let's put on a piece of paper what's wrong about that, he's certainly not doing it with the permission or knowledge of the campaign, so here are the people on the campaign with knowledge, hope hicks, that's one person that makes kellyanne conway wrong. jeff sessions, cory, who wasn't on that campaign, in fairness to kellyanne conway, he's certainly not part of the campaign i'm running, but at least two people, hope hicks and jeff sessions were aware of collusion
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with russians. >> kellyani was a spokesperson before i would have done an interview with jake tapper, i would have checked. >> they lie. >> who lies? >> all of them, all the time, constantly, relentlessly. they lie. and they lied then, they lie now, they lied in between. so what about this is surprising? it's all dad, but this is a consistent pattern, every time there's been an issue that's related to russia, through the campaign and now in the presidency, everybody involved has lied about everything always. and i think they lie because they recognize that at the worst, it is politically damaging, to be caught with whatever has actually happened. we still don't know, there's still a lot of questions to
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answer here. bob mueller knows more than anybody else, we don't know what bob mueller knows. he's going to know more tomorrow, six months from now than we know today. that's why they lie, because they don't want to suffer political damage and they don't want to go to jail. >> i guess, tim what i'm getting at with why do they lie? because they're hiding, they're hiding since the very beginning, since the infancy of this campaign, whether you want to call them low level george, or carter page, in those aides defense, those are the only people that would work with him at the time. and it suggests that there is a smoking gun somewhere. >> you know, i think -- let's step back from sort of the current mess of different things
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going on, in terms of what are they threatened by? there's collusion, bribery and obstruction of justice, those are probably the three issues at play here. i don't think trump is scared at all by collusion. i don't think it matters to him. to the extent that he obstructed. >> this is where i sat there and -- the collusion point, this is where i accept he can't even coordinate with his press office, how is he going to collude with russia. >> and they've been the keystone kops cops from this the very beginning, they haven't been on message, they're not consistent with their stories or actions, carter page, he's the president's own lexicon, he comes off at best as a whack job, so his testimony lacks credibility because he's changed his story so many times. can mueller go to court with that? i don't think he can. we're at such early days on this, mueller is building a case, he's obviously going to move up the food chain in the
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trump administration. i don't think anybody knows what anybody else has said at this point. i think he had a lot of people around him free associating him, they were just doing things that built up their own resume or their own portfolio, clearly that's carter page. i don't think it matters whether they were insiders or outsiders. i think what's happening now is that you have a very serious investigation hanging over their heads and everybody's trying to get their story straight and it's too late. >> ken delaney and kurt stiller is up on capitol hill testifying before the house intel committee. could he be getting some questions about donald trump the businessman and whether or not donald trump the businessman was entangled with russia? >> absolutely, this is donald trump's long time body man, so nobody knows more about who trump took meetings with or who he spoke to in private. and of course they're going to
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ask him about that meeting with don jr. had. because he was in the white house that day. they're also going to ask him about the 2013 miss universe pageant, where he accompanied donald trump to moscow, and as we know some of the most salacious allegations of the z dossier. but there's other meetings that would be of interest to investigators and this bodyguard was there the whole time. >> his name is keith schiller. he was the one that delivered the letter to jim comey telling him he had been fired as america's fbi director. when senior white house officials wanted to know what mood the president was in before a meeting, they used to look for guidance from keith schiller. whether they wanted to share a news article, gossip or advice to president trump, they would
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be advised to send it to keith, he'll get it to keith. after trump decided to fire fbi director james comey, it was schiller who was tasked with hand delivering the letter. it seems like if they have questions about that, the execution of firing jim comey, it seems like he could be an important witness. >> it certainly seemed like a mobesque moment to hand deliver that letter to the fbi director, when certainly a phone call -- >> he could have called the attorney general. >> there would have been other mechanisms that i think that perhaps would have been more appropriate. but this is not a white house that really cares about appropriateness. the analogy i like to use is comparing the trump white house as the titanic just going full steam and there is the huge iceberg that is the mueller investigation and it's going to gradually chip away, it might be long, it might be painful but
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they're going to get to the bottom of whatever was up. especially because they can't get their stories straight about russian contacts. nobody in the administration can. >> there were a bunch of people that clung to dinghies and lifeboats and survived. who do you think is grabbing for the dinghies at this hour? >> i think that we have already seen a number of the folks in trump's inner circle brought in to talk to mueller and now we're seeing folks in the inner circle who may wibe a little bit outsi of what mueller is looking at being brought in to talk to the intelligence committees. carter page says he hasn't called to mueller, i think that was one of the things he was addressing in his testimony. nonetheless, you see sort of the combination of all of these investigations, painting a fuller picture of contacts, not necessarily collusion, but contacts with the russians that as you suggested nicole, there was a lack of candor, a lack of forthcoming, where the trump
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team was less than forthcoming about all this stuff leads to a credibility deficit that mean if the mueller investigation or the congressional investigations don't produce a smoking gun, it has damaged the credibility of this administration in a very fundamental way. >> for a campaign that wasn't on the same page with many things, they were all -- it's the nation's stop spy at risk of politicizing the nation's top secrets? also ahead, it's a perfectly fair question, and it seemed to stump the commander in chief for a few seconds, if extreme vetting is good enough for a refugee, why isn't good enough for the owner of a semi-automatic weapon. and an election day that
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all right, riddle me this. if the director of the cia stands by and has always stood by the january 2017 intelligence assessment of the intelligence community on russian election interference as his spokeswoman today insisted he does, why did he meet with a known conspiracy theorist who believes that the dnc hack was an inside job. and he said this of the cia director, quote, he's trying to find some factual evidence. to explain, ken delaney is back.
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ken? >> bill bainy is a former nsa code director and he's developed the persona as a whistle blower, he's made allegations that the nsa is collecting everyone's phone and email are just not part of the known facts. now he has a theory that the hack of the dnc was not done by the russians, but that it was an inside job and that data was taken out with a thumb drive. and he met with cia director mike pompeo, he said that trump asked the cia director to take the meeting, the cia director, a busy man with a lot on his plate, takes time to meet with a 74-year-old fringe theorist who hasn't been in government for 17 years, who has a theory that the
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russians did not hack the 2016 election, when the evidence says that's exactly what happened. >> this feels like the republican version of if president became were to ask the cia director to meet with some 9/11 truther. i mean how has this gone down in a manner that people aren't more concerned about? and this is not cia director pomp pompeo's director's first misstep when its comes to trying to please his boss trump and remain faithful to sort of the evidence based scope of the american intelligence communities assessments when it comes to russia, is it? >> yeah, no, this fits a couple of patterns that i think folks in the intelligence community find disturbing. number one is this deep skepticism that trump has of the intelligence community, this goes back even before the russian investigation to his sort of comradery with mike flynn who was a leading cia skeptic for many years. and you heard trump on the
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campaign trail talk repeatedly about the failures of the u.s. intelligence community in the run up to the invasion of iraq. now that's a certain amount of healthy skepticism that may be warranted. but there's a slippery slope between that healthy skepticism to a full on conspiracy nut theorizing. and in part because of where he gets his information, this guy, who we talked about, this whistle blower who appeared on fox a number of times, it's not unimaginable that he saw this guy on fox news, and told mike pompeo, you might want to meet with this guy, he's got some interesting theories. and that -- including the intelligence community's findings that russia did intervene to help him and hurt hillary clinton and so you have
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this sort of ball of conspiracy theorizing and skepticism of the intelligence committee to combine and point donald trump in the direction of this guy. >> this seems like of all the things that shouldn't be normalized, donald trump asking the director of the cia to meet with a conspiracy theorist, i guess you could call here the dnc pac conspiracy theory. >> there's so many things that trump has done in his time in office that we wouldn't want to normalize, and this is one of them. this is pretty bad, firing the fbi director, when there was questions about collusion was pretty bad too. there's 20, 50 of them, i don't know. donald trump, it's really hard to know, on this show the other day, i think i referred to his mind as kind of a haunted house, it's hard to know what he actually believes, does he
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embrace this theory because it's a political -- more particularly that the whole intelligence community is -- it's a false insertion that russia intervened in our election to help him and hurt hillary clinton. does he really believe that or just because he believes it's in his political interests. there are a lot of people that donald trump has consorted with for a long time. you sit down with roger stone, roger stone will tell you, that the whole intelligence community, their entire allegation of rush is that's role in the election is a scam on behalf of the deep state. i think that steve bannon believes that too. >> it but they're crazy and they're on the the outside and they're under investigation and he's the commander in chief. >> i wasn't saying this in order to justify it, i'm just trying to explain it.
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does he genuinely believe him, or is he as crazy as they are, or is he just saying these things -- >> is he? >> i would like to get some time with him with some truth serum to see what's behind that door. he does things in -- indicate that some of them he believes are true. >> it former cia director michael hayden says that his smear of the intelligence community calling them nazis before he became president was a set back, if i could put it as diplomatically and mildly as possible. you now have -- but i guess you could chalk it up to those were his views, after he was briefed on the dossier, he was more susceptible to the rants of roger stone and other unsavory
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characters. now he is the president of the united states. he asked the cia director, to meet with someone whose views who are at best fringe. >> he's done the same things with the jujew -- judiciary. he went after the circuit courts after there was opposition to his executive orders, he's going after the intelligence community because the intelligence community i think is trying to make a good faith effort to assess russia's role in the election. he's doing this because he's afraid on the one thing. the second thing that we have got to republican about trump is he's a 70-year-old that grown old. he sees everything through the prism of what it's in it for himself. how can he survive. how can he self aggrandize. there's two things you can usually use is east every
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self- -- >> mike pence does not mind being molded by donald trump, no matter how crazy the conspiracy. just to build on your point about the conspiracy theories, donald trump rose to power through a racist conspiracy theory that he could not give up until a couple of months before the campaign, he sees conspiracy theories as central to his strength and he's continued that throughout his entire time in office, and he's going to continue to either opportunistically or maybe he really believes the crazy nonsense, but he's going to keep going. >> thank you all. when we come back, extreme vetting never sounded so good for so wide.
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you've talked about wanting to put extreme vetting on people trying to come into the united states. but i wonder if you would consider extreme vetting for people trying to buy a gun? >> trying to what? >> buy a gun. >> well, you're bringing up a situation that probably shouldn't be discussed too much right now. we could let a little time go by, but it's okay if you feel that that's an appropriate question, even though we're in the heart of south korea. i will certainly answer your question. if you did what you're suggesting, there would have been no difference three days ago. and you might not have had that very brave person who happened to have a gun or a rifle in his
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truck go out and shoot him and hit him and neutralize him. and i can only say this, if he didn't have a gun, instead of having 26 dead, he would have had hundreds more dead. so that's the way i feel about it. if this man didn't have a gun or a rifle, you would be talking about a much worse situation in the great state of texas. thank you. >> that question came from one of nbc's white house reporters in south korea this morning. what you just heard was the good guy with the gun argument, a common one from gun rights advocates. it goes like this from the president. without the armed civilian who shot the attacker this weekend, there would be hundreds more dead. but with this claim, trump takes a plausible premise and stretches it beyond recognition, as he so often does, the president's penchant for
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hyperbole and ignoring inconvenient facts are at play here. let me start with you. and just the intractable nature of the gun debate, not just on substance, but even in posture, people seem to now really race to their corners. it used to take a couple days, now everyone locks in with their well the good guys need guns er this would have been worse. the folks for more gun control don't waste a second to call it the hypocrisy, and justifiably so, with the trump administration who wanted to talk about terrorism in the hours after the attack a week ago today. so where do you see this debate in this conversation in washington? >> i think it's worsening. just as you said, in the last few mass shootings, and they're stacking up at a rapid rate. people have -- we always hear it's too early to talk about it,
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because if you're talking about solutions you're talking about politics and then you're politicizing this tragedy. if it's a terrorist attack, we have to jump on it and come up with some plan, but the gun policy debate is a zero sum so there's never any gray area and no one can be an nra member and a second amendment rights protector and supporter who actually thinks we might need to make some tweaks in any loopholes for any kind of background checks or anything. you have to be on one side or another. what we have seen on twitter, after the last two mass shootings is unbelievable because people say i'm fed up with the response about thoughts and prayers, which means i just want to see a policy discussion about what we can do to save the lives and the gun supporters push back and say that you're unsupporting prayer. it really seems like it's
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playing out again just like it did after las vegas. >> my question for you is, why can't anybody in washington, why does not anyone have sort of the respect in that town to say, whoa, whoa, whoa, stop, why can't we do both? why can't we address mental health and take bump stocks out of circulation? >> that was briefly a topic on capitol hill after the las vegas shooting, but what you're really looking for is for somebody to talk about bump stocks, and that would be president trump. president obama said he wanted to see -- but trump, he has a fundamental opposition to taking -- adding any sort of regulation on gun control, in part because he feels very loyal to the nra who came out and supported him early. and he feels very loyal to his
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base who actually supports new gun regulation. instead what we give to the president is the self-contradictory evidence that this would have happened anybody and we don't want the good guy to lose his gun. >> at least trump wasn't always in the pocket of the nra, as a new york city democrat, he was for gun control. so it isn't even -- it is only what phillip describes, it isn't even a political debt and a personal held belief. >> that's exactly how i have heard it described from a contact who knows that the nra is a very close communication with donald trump, that he regularly calls to check in and to stay on top of their issues because he has seen the very potent political force that they are in our elections and he knows that their voters are dedicated, their membership is robust. so he is definitely moving in
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lock step with the nra and that's not going to change any time in the near future. >> thomas, what happens next? >> i depaspair on this issue, about how to -- everyone has been terrified of the political power of the nra since back in the early 1990s when they last actually had to flex their muscle when they were challenged and some gun control legislation got passed and they took out congress people and you pointed out people still in washington who have been around long enough, point to 1994 races and say that woman lost her seat because she crossed the nra. and it's just the ultimate portrait in cowardice on the part of the people in congress and president trump is as -- craven and not based on anything
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but the negotiation that the main thing he's excited about in his political life is that he got elected president and that's his great accomplishment and anyone who helped him do that is going to be his friends forever. he just has these are people with me, these are the people against me, the people with me i'm sticking with. and i just look at the situation and say after everything, after new town, after all of these successions of mass shootings, it's not getting better and it getting worse, i would love to be able to say here's what's going to change in the calculus, i don't see it. i just see increasingly massacres that unspool often into an interesting future. people are going to stop talking about it because it's not going to change any scenario that i can currently imagine and i have a pretty big imagination. >> let me ask you, i think, and maybe this is because i worked in the white house that anyone
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who's the president of this country when new town happened would have tried to do what president obama tried to do. li like president bush, he said at 9/11, not on my watch. you would think if mass shootings affability a presidency--because there's been the biggest in american history and the biggest ever in an american church have happened on his watch. not that they're his fault, but nothing that has happened has cro cross -- >> john's right, he sees evangelical christians who stood by him after the "access hollywood" tape was release and the gun lobby as his most stalwart supporters who helped him to victory and he will never back down. but even in terms of the congress, i mean, if there were
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pressure from republican members, i remember after new town a republican senator telling me that he was caught talking to democrats about maybe working with them on some kind of tiny incremental whatever it was at the time. and i believe it's gun owners of america, it's the group that's trying to be as big as the nra. they were outside the house threatening his wife and they had to have security come and protect them. i mean what happens, it's not just we're going to run you out of office, they go online and tell their supporters something that isn't true, like he's be obama and they're going to take all your guns away and before you get to their front door, they're on their lawns. the president making it very clear, he's never going to ask in an emotional moment for anything to change. . >> just to be clear, this is a good example, this notion, there was a period, there was a moment when we had a discussion about how there were gun rights groups
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that were going to take out a place further to the right than the nra, in the face of new town in particular, maybe the nra would -- we had the discussion about bump stocks, maybe the nra would e -- there's competition now for money, it's a giant scam and so the nra looks at groups to its right, and says they're taking away our funding base, we have to get as far to the right as the crazy groups as we are. a lot of this is not president principle or policy it's just about money. >> with i se >> and who on the planet could be for bump stocks. still to come, ahead in the polls and hoping for the best, but the ptsd from last year's stinging defeat as democrat s wringing their hands today in
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how much of your vote was about northam and how much was about trump? >> part of it was about trump, i think we need more democrats. >> voters in virginia hitting the polls today for a high stakstake s gubernatorial race between ed gillespie and ralph northam. gillespie has not campaigned alongside the president. garre garrett haikes spoke about running as a republican in the time of trump. >> some have said it just as important to stand up to the
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president. >> absolutely you do, if i'm elected today, which obviously i hope i will be, it's not my intention to always be for president trump or against president trump, i will be for the people of virginia. >> the pam's back, i. at least ed and i in the interest of disclose your, ed is a former colleague of ours in the bush white house, i wonder if donald trump knows he used to be george w. bush's senior advisor. >> it makes you wonder if he would have been able to stomach actually supporting him and the tweets he had on ed gillespie's behalf. i think ed gillespie would be a good governor, i think he would run virginia well, i they he's a smart guy and a deeccent man, i think his campaign hasn't reflected his decency. i hope that doesn't hurt him in the end, but your moral values
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should be projected in your campaign. >> he hasn't run a campaign in line with a person that we knew he talked about his issues with the confederate flag. >> he was working for president bush when president bush pushed comprehensive immigration reform. so what you hear from president bush -- the confederate flags, that just really is an unfortunate natural culture war that he should not be using, appealing to the very worst demons to try to get votes. >> do you need the demons, though, to win? >> i don't know. i have known ed for a long time, i used to play pick up basketball with him a long time ago. what do you make of this? it's not just in george w. bush's time. he was on the romney campaign, he was critical of romney's
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relatively -- he said we have got to get hispanics, he was in the pretrump reince priebus who said we got to get right with hispanics and with women. when you look at what your friend ed is doing on the campaign, what do you say? >> this goes for my former colleagues in the white house, when we talk about the 43 and 4 war of words with the president. i don't think anyone can look in the mirror. what i would say about ed is that he often loses by about 1 to 5 points and i'm not sure even the momentums in the final days is going his direction, but that won't be the outcome. to both of you who are as good at looking at these races, where do you think he ends up? about one to two in the other dwr direction? >> i think if you were just being a totally amoral
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strategist you would say given where ed was there was no way for him to win without more enthusiasm from the trump base. so he had to do something to try to get trump voters in rural areas to be for him more than they were the last ran and more than they were before he changed his tactic. i'll not advocating but he had to fix that problem or he was going to lose by eight. >> do you lose that woman who we just saw in the clip? >> probably. the cost benefit analysis, if he kept on the path he was on, he probably would have lost by seven. probable blewbly will lose by two or one or could pull off a upset. but he couldn't kr kept going going the way he was going and win the race. >> two losses the democrats face today. the most urgent is the governor's seat in virginia. which is huge and problematic about all their narrative about this being the antitrump year
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and so on and so forth. but they have lost the -- they don't want to see republicans saying immigrants are bad, you have to watch out for ms-13 had the middle of topeka kansas, it is a poent campaign issue and why gillespie is in this race. >> we will pick this up on the other side of our very last break. stay with us. every day, on every street, in every town, across america. small businesses show their love to you. with some friendly advice,
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plbz will have its first look at exit poll data in the virginia race we have been talking about at 5:00. chuck todd will have an interview with the democratic candidate for governor. any predictions. >> i think it's going to be tight. it's all about turnout. the democrats will freak out if they don't have a lot of energy from northern virginia and people pushing back like you had that person you had a sound byte from, a former republican upset about trump. if they can't get people upset about trump in this election now they have got some serious problems. i think it's about whether northam can turn them out or gillespie can turn to out the trump voters. >> what is the freakout if democrats can't win in virginia a a state hillary won? >> it will be a big freakout, yes, they should win this race.
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it is an offyear election, which always runs against the democrats, at least it has in recent years. there are a lot of reasons why it is a uphill battle but it is a race they should be able to win, particularly give the massive shifts at local and state levels. democrats are now winning in smaller non-federal races. that was the trend they expected thissier. >> let's be clear about what virginia means. virginia, of all the purple states that have shifted around through the obama era, this is the one clear place where it seemed solid blue. if it goes red with trump in office at a 35% approval rating democrats have a reason to freak out. >> eye lied, we will we have one more break. we'll be right back.
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we're back. our thanks to avy stoddard. that does it for our time. i could talk to this panel for hours but i don't have hours. >> we can get a drink. >> we can get a drink. weren't you already drinking. get serious. "mtp daily" starts root now, it is an election day. >> it is election day. i always have an extra bounce in my step. you don't just serve coffee and water on that table anymore. >> you know, you should come up to the mother ship more often. >> it's my show where it's 5:00 somewhere. good night. if it's tuesday, somebody is voting somewhere. tonight, election day. how tonight's governor's race in virginia could set the stage for what we can expect in next year's

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