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and new reporting on that meeting with don junior and the russian lawyer. we get an insider's assessment tonight from an attorney who has worked alongside robert mueller and james comey. plus, steve bannon back on the trail tonight for roy moore. and there's breaking and controversial news on trump and the middle east. and chris matthews, among our and chris matthews, among our guests this evening as "the 11th hour" gets under way on a tuesday night. >> and good evening once again from our nbc news headquarters here in new york, day 320 of the trump administration. a day in which the administration wrestled with what seems to be a new turn in the mueller investigation. multiple news organizations by that we mean bloomberg, the financial times, reuters, "wall street journal" report that the special council has suspected deutsche bank for information about donald trump's financial dealings. the bank is trump's biggest lender, traditionally have supplied over $300 million for a number of real estate ventures over the years. over the past two decades, in
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fact, the bank has played a major role in the president's businesses and has been one of the only big financial institutions willing to deal with donald trump at times. today, white house lawyer jay sekulow denied the reports and while oddly worded, here is what he said. quote, we have confirmed that the news reports that the special counsel had subpoenaed financial records relating to the president are false. no subpoena has been issued or received. we have confirmed this with the bank and other sources. the bank, however, had issued this statement. deutsche bank takes its legal obligations seriously, remains committed to cooperating with authorized investigations into this matter. the bloomberg news correspondent
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who co-wrote their news organization's report on this spoke to our own ari melber earlier this evening. >> we stand by our story. we bent back to our sources. we acknowledged the denial. >> you may recall just five months ago the president told "the new york times" that if it came to investigating his finances unrelated to russia, as he saw it, that would be crossing a red line. he was asked about that very thing today. >> has mueller crossed a red line with deutsche bank? has mueller crossed a red line? mr. president has mueller crossed a red line. >> thank you. >> there is also news tonight about that june 2016 meeting at trump tower. you'll recall it was attended by donald junior, manafort and several russian nationals. nbc news exclusively reports donald trump jr. asked a russian lawyer at the june 2016 trump tower meeting whether she had evidence of illegal donations to the clinton foundation. the lawyer told the senate judiciary committee in answers to written questions obtained exclusively by nbc news. the lawyer told the committee that she didn't have any such evidence. donald trump, jr. will likely have a chance to talk more about
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that tomorrow when he testifies before the house intelligence committee in a closed door session. and five days after former national security advisor mike flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the fbi, it is still not clear exactly what the president knew, and as the saying goes, when he knew it. thank you, howard baker. our own correspondent hally jackson tried to get answers notice white house briefing. >> when did the president know that mike flynn lied to the fbi? >> as i said earlier, i referred you back to john dowd's clarification -- >> i'm asking for a day. when did he find out? was it prior to the announcement friday. >> the president's lawyer, john dowd was asked that same question. again he gave this answer in a statement. quote, i am not going to engage on this subject. flynn was first accused and
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charged last friday. no more questions. the president has been outspoken for his support about michael flynn as you may have seen. but when asked today about flynn's future, mr. trump declined to comment. >> any plans to pardon general flynn, mr. president? >> thank you. >> that's how that went in the oval office. with that let's turn to our lead off panel. michael crowley, senior correspondent for politico. tamara keith, and ken vogel. thank you all for being with us especially as part of our lead off panel tonight. ken, i'll lead off with you. what do you make of this bank subpoena? if true, is it a big deal? what else does it speak of? >> absolutely. we always kind of knew this was a possibility that mueller would start looking into donald trump's finances, and this subpoena, again, if it is accurate that deutsche has been
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subpoenaed, would indicate he is fully going down that right. deutsche is significant because donald trump has at least $130 million worth of donald trump's debt, and it sold some of that debt or could have sold some of that debt to russian banks. that could potentially give these russian banks some leverage over donald trump. and so you have the combination here potentially of donald trump's finances as well as his dealings with russia and how those two things intertwine, it's sort of just logical that mueller would look at this. even if the subpoena itself has not actually been executed, it would stand to reason this would be a path that mueller would eventually go down. >> michael, i don't need to tell you someone eventually at every cocktail party in washington and new york will corner you and make the point, you're looking for collusion, it's the finance stuff. that's where you're going to find it.
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we also know mueller has appointed a very powerful deputy on that front. question to you is do you think trump's red line has shifted a bit on this? >> well, it may have. again, as ken notes, and your lead in noted, there's dispute about whether these records have been subpoenaed. it's a little hard to know what jay sekulow is saying there. a lot of very credible reporting from multiple news outlets, in some cases with a good amount of detail suggesting this has happened. but donald trump did say at the prompting of a "the new york times" reporter several months ago that if the mueller investigation were to go into his personal or family finances, that could be cause for him to fire robert mueller. politico had some reporting tonight that congressional democrats are freshly alarmed that trump could be headed in this direction. they're redoubling their efforts to try to come up with some sort
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of legislative shield to make it more difficult for trump to take a step like that. but i think there's both a sense, number one, as ken said this is an appropriate direction for mueller to look in and number two, it might mean that mueller might need a little more back stop in case that trump does decide to lash at out him over this. >> tamara, what do you make of this story for your npr listeners across the country and around the world? and most importantly, what do you make of the white house response on this thus far? >> jay sekulow is the president's private attorney. and you're right in your intro that that statement was oddly phrased. what we're trying figure out and don't know the answer to, is maybe is this coming down to the word subpoena? as in, is sekulow focus on a specific word where maybe
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they've requested some records in some other way? >> it was not even a double negative. it was like a reverse run around -- >> with a twist. >> half positive, half negative with a twist. absolutely. we're still trying to figure out just what it is he said there. ken, if you're a member of the house intelligence committee or a staff member, in walks donald trump, jr., closes the door, closed off to coverage by types of people like us, what do you want to know from him? >> well, you definitely want to know about this june 2016 meeting with the russian lawyer and russian american lobbyist as well. the russian lawyer has now provided testimony that donald trump was specifically curious about whether he could get information, damaging information about finance support for the clinton foundation. this is something that has been a subject of dispute, but it really gets at this potential collusion. when this meeting was setup by e-mails from this british
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publicist rob gold stone to donald trump, jr., that was the suggestion. that this lawyer would be bringing some damaging information about clintons to the meeting. there's some dispute about whether this occurred. now she's saying even that the meeting donald trump, jr. continued to ask for it. that's a key question i'd be interested in knowing the answer to. >> and michael, this meeting of which elements kind of dribble out continue to loom large over all of this. >> yeah, brian. the meeting is very interesting. i think it's the most -- the meeting that is closest to trump's inner circle or does involve trump's inner circle and also involves russians who have ties to the kremlin. i think we have seen a lot of very suspicious activity on the part of figures who appear more peripheral, although we don't completely understand who they
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are. but carter page and george papadopoulos are traveling in europe. page went to russia, met with a lot of different people. we're still filling in the picture. but these are not, you know, blood relatives of the president sitting down in trump tower with also paul manafort and jared kushner at the table. and so you really want to know everything about this meeting. but, you know, i just want to link these two subjects, brian, and say that people are very focused on collusion. it's still not clear whether there was any collusion, but what's interesting about the deutsche bank and the financial records is whether there was financial leverage over trump. it wouldn't necessarily constitute collusion, might not even involve a crime. but it would be very important to know if donald trump was essentially in hoc to russia, and that would not be collusion might not even be impeachable.
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but still a fundamental question that we don't even have our arms around because he won't release his tax returns. >> and shows bending over backwards to show the benefit of the doubt to all things russians this past political season. so tamara, if you're the president of the united states and you know tomorrow your son is behind closed doors before a house intel, and this is already a time of shall we call it increased sensitivity, what's likely to happen? >> and your lawyers have been reassuring you that everything is going to be okay -- >> by christmas in mar-a-lago, yeah. >> i can't imagine my son testifying before a committee. so it's got to be tough, but the president of the united states also has to continue to be the president of the united states. and he continues to assert that there is no collusion. you know, the thing about all of these stories that have come out
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today is they're just like tiny little pieces of this bigger picture that we can't really see. and it is a reminder that robert mueller has a very big job on his hands and that -- and that as journalists we only see sort of a very small part of it. we see like toenails of the elephant and maybe a little bit of tail every once in a while. >> ken vogel, what is the best case scenario, donald trump, jr. as jimmy kimmel wishes we would call him, djtj testifies tomorrow. is a headline saying he spoke forthrightly, he took all of our questions, he stayed overtime? what is it? >> well, i don't know about the headline, but i think what they want -- what they're argument has been here is that donald trump, jr. simply didn't know what he was doing. he wasn't trying to solicit some sort of opposition research from
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the russian government. he wasn't trying to strike any kind of deal. when he talked previously to sort of link these two stories about how much business the trump organization did from russia, he was just kind of speaking extemporaneously and not about anything in particular. so unfortunately in some ways for him the best defense might be sort of pleading ignorance or incompetence or some combination of the two both on this meeting and smf the stuff related to the trump organization finances and their links to russia. doesn't make him look great but maybe an argument that could see the way that the president himself hopes to sort of conclusion of this without any charges against him or his family. >> three terrific journalists. always a great conversation. michael crowley, tamara keith, ken vogel, thanks to the three of you. coming up, roy moore now has the full weight of the republican party and the house and the president behind him.
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so what might any of it mean for his fellow republicans like all the house of representatives from for re-election in 2018. and up next what do today's news tell us about the russia investigation?
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of staff and senior counselor to one james comey when he was fbi director. his work at doj focussed on counterterrorism, counterintelligence, national security, criminal matters. also happens to be a former u.s. attorney, former federal prosecutor and we're very pleased to say a current msnbc contributor. chuck, i heard you on the air today, and it was so important to hear this. someone asked you a question about mueller going after an obstruction case or going after the president. you bristled you didn't want to put it that way because that gives motive to this man you know. start by telling the audience what you told me during the commercial break about bob mueller. >> he's the hardest working man i've ever seen and it was difficult even though i'm some years younger to keep up with him. >> you got in at 5:00 a.m. >> i did and i didn't beat him in by very much. >> what's his managerial style and worth ethic, and how could
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that reflect on this monumental case he's been handed? >> well, he works as hard as anyone. he doesn't ask anyone to do something that he, himself, wouldn't do. he's a man of tremendous integrity. i don't mean to gush because i'm afraid i'm about to, but working for him is an enormous privilege. being a part of the fbi and working for a man like bob mueller is great privilege. can i tell you why i bristled that construction? >> please. >>. >> it bothered me that somebody said, and i don't think they meant anything by it, that bob mueller is going after the president or he's seeking to put together an obstruction case, i don't think either of those things are true. what he's doing is applying the facts to the law. when you follow the law, you get the facts and apply them to the law. and if at the end of the day a particular person or a particular set of charges become
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perinant, so be it. but i don't think he's out to get anyone. >> let me ask you a question, a lawyer question about john dowd. effective john dowd claiming credit to be the author of the tweet that to some implied or confirmed obstruction of justice, if such a thing can happen in our world. he took a position in this case. does that mean he's going to have to not represent the president anymore, because he could be conceivably asked did you in fact write that tweet? >> i guess it's conceivable, but there are ways around that. for instance -- you asked a lawyer a question, i'm afraid you're going to get a lawyer answer or maybe a prosecutor answer. but in fact the mueller team asks john dowd authored that
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tweet, they could stipulate to that. >> when we hear about the deutsche further subpoenas, is that evidence to an experienced guy like you that donald trump's tax returns have been sitting on bob mueller's desk for a matter of weeks now? >> yes, and let me explain and take that actually in two parts. when i was an assistant attorney, i handled white collar criminal cases. and wouchb the first things you do in such a case is you get the tax returnoffs the people you're looking at. why? because from those tax returns you can figure out where money is coming from and going to. in fact if you look at the manafort and gates indictment, it's obvious that they have the tax returns and use those to issue a whole bunch of subpoenas to get more information. so should we assume that the mueller team has the tax returns, and not just the president but perhaps the subsidiaries and folks he works with, that we should.
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i don't know that, but i know what i did as a prosecutor, and that would be a very logical step. and based on that you issue subpoenas. so to my way of thinking, brian, it's not remarkable with deutsche got a subpoena. it would be remarkable if they did not. >> how does it feel for you as a career man of the law and law enforcement to see the fbi under attack, criticized, trolled, called in tatters? this is the fbi after all. >> and i was proud to work for it under two tremendous directors. it pains me. i can offer you a method of proof. the federal courthouse doors in this nation is open to every citizen. you can walk into any courthouse in alba kirky, albany, and you can watch a criminal trial, watch the women of the fbi or
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atf or dea testify and see the fruits of their labor. their not in tatters. this is proud, strong organization. you can call it whatever you want, but i'm telling you what it is. it's not in tatters. >> thank you very much for being with us. we look forward to many more appearances by chuck rosenbering. coming up here chris matthews is is the studio will join us to help break down everything we've learned just today in this investigation, so far in this presidency and whether these two notions are on a collision course. that's when "the 11th hour" continues.
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but we're only as strong as our community. who inspires and pushes us to go further than we could ever go alone. sofi. get there sooner. every day of this trump administration delivers historic firsts. and to put them all in perspective, do you see me smiling over the conversation we just had over the commercial break, we are pleased to welcome our friend and colleague chris matthews. in case you are the american who hasn't heard, author of the "the new york times" best-seller "bobby kennedy, a raging spirit." which i can personally tell you is a great book and a great read and deserves its spot on the amazon politics column number one, as you go on that vast bookstore. i watch you every evening. you love our newsroom because
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all you can hear is your voice between 7:00 and 8:00 p.m. eastern time. there's two things that gets you angry. number one, the number of medals on the north korean army uniforms. >> what wars did they fight? these guys are too young to have fought all these wars. >> and second, anything that causes you to compare the trump family to the romanovs? >> why? >> he always has to have this inturj with him. you see a picture of the cabinet meeting and they're around him like a royal family. of course the romanovs didn't end too well. >> do you think jared kushner with his harvard education and experience in new york real estate understands that if we
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move that embassy to jerusalem, we could spark a full on and real people could do? >> i do. i understand the intricacy of that city, and the beauty of it is you hear the call to prayer, which is wonderful for western's ear. you see the armenians and they're sort of medieval costumes and everything's sort of working together. and as you suggested, why do you want to shake that up? because it looks like we recognize the state of israel's exclusive right to jerusalem, in other words all of jerusalem. all the sacred spot there where mohamed ascended into heaven, i believe. and all that take away and then
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jim was on, and said they're already cutting off palestinians from going to their capital city, what they've thought as their capital. it's just crazy. it takes little things to spark it. and by the way we could have an american embassy blown up tomorrow somewhere in the world. unrelated it could be in istnble, indonesia, somewhere where there's a large muslim population, and we're everywhere americans. we're much more exposed than israel, ironically a small country, because there are business people, tourists, anywhere in the world picked up and basically killed because of what we just did. and we don't know the explosive power of the consequences. >> and by the way for all the u.s. embassy and state department security people
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around the job who take their job of defending americans so seriously, this has been a very serious time. that reminds me you are a self-admitted institutionest. you believe in the powers of government to serve people. having said that, what do you mourn the most? is the 2,000 career diplomats who are no longer at the state department? is it the loss of that institution engine and memory that makes gump go? >> yeah, because we count on that. we count on that as much as we do in the courts. look at how watergate, how it took place. the republican appointee, hanging judge, he did it. a republican did it. an old segregationist southerner, he did it. they do it. and those people are ones that you'd say the squares, the guys
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that put astronauts into the air, the ones that make sure the system works, they're all over the place. they don't make a lot of money, and they do like job security. but in exchange for that they take a commitment that's almost like a religious vocation to their jobs. and they're the ones that save us when we're in trouble. you know the deep state that trump fears, it's there. >> i saw the picture on the back of our book. why do you think your book, and i've not been asked to say this or promote it, why do you think it has struck such a cord with people coming outright now as it does today? >> brian, and i know you grew up with this like i did, the pay trottic affection of these working people, this guy who served in the military, he knew how to do a perfect salute. his son, here's the perfect kid,
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the wife, she's poor. >> it's a sense of duty. >> i worked on capitol hill and i remember working as a cop and talking to people. and i worked with an old west virginia guy just like these people, and it was time in the '60s where the hard hats were at war. and he called me aside and he said you know why the little men loves his country? and i said i don't know. and he said because he's always got it. what he has is a flag and country he has served. and they felt that reverence for bobby kennedy, a democrat, a liberal. that's gone. that connection between affectionate patriotism and liberalism. today we have people working like that for trump. they broke off from the liberal party because they felt like they were being discarded.
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another rule of life. people don't mind being used but mind being discarded. and these people feel they left them down. i think bobby kebied would assure them my people are the waitresses and the firefighters, construction people, white or black, and i think that's lost right now. and i think it's poignant and people feel that loss because the division in this country every day seems to be white versus black -- it seems to be -- it's right down the middle this division of our country. >> pleasure to read your book. >> you look so rested this time of night. >> i'm a night owl. this is our shift. chris matthews, our thanks. the book is "bobby kennedy, a raging spirit." the president's full throated endorsement of roy moore. creating awkward questions for the white house and the rest of the grand ole party. that's when we continue.
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steve bannon, donald trump's former chief strategist, was in alabama tonight at a rally for the republican senate candidate roy moore. they were in fair hope, alabama. for weeks moore has been persona non grata with a lot of republicans on the hill. as recently as this morning mitch mcconnell says moore could face an ethics investigation if he wins the seat. but he had a moment to fight back and blasted the establishment. >> relet's talk about the establishment. let's talk about jeff flake. did he sign a check today, $100 to jones. what'd he say, put country before party? come on, brother, if you're going to write a check, write a check. let's talk about millered mit
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romney. what'd he say yesterday, honor and integrity? that judge moore lacked honor and integrity and that's why he couldn't vote for him. while we're on the subject of vietnam and honor and integrity, you avoided service, brother. he wants to be called leader mcconnell. are you kidding me? donald trump won in wisconsin and brought ron johnson across the finish line. he won in pennsylvania and brought toomey across the finish line, brought blunt across the finish line. mitch, you owe your job to donald j. trump. >> or as they call it tuesday night in fair hope, alabama. here to talk about a democrat pollster who worked, and david jolly is back with us, former republican congressman from florida. okay, congressman, mike murphy
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funnier an the average gop consultant said on this broadcast steve bannon can't deliver a pizza let alone a congressional district race. do you think bannon's going to have better luck this time around? >> well, the people of alabama might elect roy moore and we know that. listen, steve bannon is that trump uncle at your thanksgiving dinner. what he's done is doubled down and now moving it to attacking mcconnell and now romney. don't overlook what happened tonight, brian. this is very intriguing. by attacking mit romney steve bannon and in essence donald trump have chosen a foil. and it's a foil like anything else. i don't know that this is fight that steve bannon and donald trump want to have with mit romney. if there is a fight for the soul of the republican party, mit
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rumny commands a lot of respective among conservatives. steve bannon picked a fight tonight, and it'll be interesting to see what it means for the future of the party. >> since your a number guys here, do you trust any of the polling you see coming out of alabama? >> well, here is the tough part, brian, is that it's hard to judge or this is the art of it, right, what kind of electorate is going to turn out. the polling isn't wrong as much as the art of the is wrong. at such a topsy-turvy time, we don't know who's going to stay in and who's not going to turn out. if you had told me two months ago that the democratic electorate in virginia would be plus 13 points democratic, i would say that's an outlier, i don't think that's going to happen. but that's what you had, right? so it depends on who turns out. what you're hearing from alabama is that you have a lot of energy
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on both sides. people are talking about we've never sign this sort of energy among democrats in the state before because they've never had this sort of opportunity before. it's all going to come down to who turns out, right? do you get modern republicans turning out at the same pace as they typically do? my guess is the only way doug jones wins it is in fact you do have some cross over moderate republicans and then some drop off and what you typically see in republican turn out because they're so depressed or suppressed by sort of the ugliness they see going on, and that quite frankly, judge moore is outside the values of i think a lot of mainstream, you know, christian conservatives there. because he was the guy who couldn't go to a mall because he was creeping at little girls. >> how will you measure any
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potential damage to donald trump by dent of getting into this race and his endorsement which then of course triggered to gop to jump back into the alabama? and how will you measure the impact of this race on the entire house of representatives being up for election or re-election in 2018? >> look, i think what happens here is if roy moore loses this race, that's going to be a huge punch in the gut to the president who's really going out of most of the party's comfort zone here and endorsing him so vocally. the president first endorsed luther strange in this race. he's of course lost. he's 2 for 2 losing. donald trump is a man who doesn't like to lose, also. if you get a republican losing in a state like alabama, that's very bad news when it comes to 2018 as a tax reformer, the tax bill is kind of working its way through congress. if you have a republican congress that has nothing to show for itself after all of this, it's going to be a
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problem. what's so fascinating of this attack on mitt romney, over the past two days we had the rnc decide to get back into the race and spend a bit of money. and mitt romney's niece, the one now the chairman of the rnc who today signed two checks going to the alabama state republican party giving them about $175,000 to spend on this race, and now you've got bannon up on stage just bashing him. >> proving there are tributaries to every family and romney's is no exception. at lunch this afternoon with senate republicans president trump threw his full support behind roy moore. a week ahead of the vote. at trump's side as he spoke was a visibly uncomfortable arizona republican jeff flake. who you'll recall if you saw this at all today became something of a hostage in the moment, a human prop for the scene and the president's
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remarks. while flake later posted a photo on twitter of a check he has written to moore's opponent with the inscription country over party, the damage was done. critics were alleging this man who had been so critical of donald trump had likely been used today. listen as john heilemann weighed in with nicolle wallace on this network in this studio this afternoon. >> what is jeff flake doing at the white house? is he just clueless? does he not know there's a chance he's going to be used a political prop? the president put him next to him in a pool spray and talked about roy moore, and jeff flake sat there silent and arguably complicit. all those reporters would take a statement from jeff flake at that moment or walkway or not go in the first place. but jeff flake has been relatively courageous more than a lot of republicans, and yet at
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this moment donald trump ropes him in, brings him to the white house and he sits there like a bump on a log while he talks about why roy moore belongs in the united states senate. >> i think the dynamic here is people are generally hungry for profiles in courage, and yet it's such a cynical age where we see that change, where we see a nick on the armor and folks like john go after it. >> he's right. senator flake should not have gone into the white house. all of the energy, to jill's point, all the energy is on the left right now. all the right has is a charade. we saw in the meeting today with trump and flake. but we also saw it with steve bannon. steve bannon is a former goldman sachs investment banker vice president who moved from manhattan to l.a. to further do business with hollywood. and tonight he's preaching fire
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and brimstone. this is the charade that donald trump is relying on being successful while all the energy is building on the left. and that's why '18 is going to be pretty, pretty difficult for republicans. >> cornell, do you conquer? >> i will add this. mit rumny said something i thought was interesting, that this was a stain on the republican party. i think that's absolutely right. and i will go to virginia and underline this number. plus 22. that was the advantage that democrats had among women voters in virginia. and lot of this, brian, is why the polls were off. that's unusual, right? and i think when you look at the energy among women and you look at -- you've got double the amount of women who are running for congress this time than you've seen before. when you see that sort of energy and it's building and it's building on the left, i think it's really problematic.
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one last thing i will say and i don't do this very often, is courage to senator flake for what he's done. >> our thanks. cornell belcher, jill, david jolly, appreciate the conversation tonight. coming up, what the president did today that may break with nearly 70 years of u.s. policy. that when "the 11th hour" continues.
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as we've been talking about the president saet to announce major policy shift tomorrow when he officially recognizes jerusalem as the capital of israel fulfilling a campaign promise. seni senior officials said tonight the state department would also direct to move the u.s. embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem. and that's a big deal. they're cautioning this process will take years to complete. leaders from the european union and the middle east have warned this decision will inflame
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tensions in the region and undermine any effort to resume the peace process. 86 nations maintain embassies in tel aviv. not one nation has its embassy in jerusalem. and many would say for good reason. we've had is jil coalven that the associated press to stick around and talk about this with us. of my reading of this in 1995 after something called the jerusalem embassy act, it became the law of our land that we viewed the capital as jerusalem. and every six months since our president has signed a waiver saying maybe this isn't the best time to move the embassy. tomorrow as i understand it the president is still going to sign that waiver, but he's going to say at this event he wants to begin the process of moving the embassy. do we have that about right? >> yeah, that's exactly right. i think the one thing to keep in mind here although the president is going to take this historical step, and there's no way to underplay how significant and
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what a change this is in potential ramifications across the arab and muslim world and across europe, i think this is important to note this is not something going to be happening tomorrow. this is process that could take years and years. officials today probably naming three to four years probably on the short end of finding a site, actually moving it, moving all the embassy personnel. so during that period of time the president intends to continue signing these waivers every six months doing what every president before him since president bill clinton sent this directive has done. they'll potentially change that law so the president doesn't have to take that step, but nothing is changing tomorrow when it comes to the embassy front. >> that's what we needed to hear, and it's a pleasure to have jill coalven, whose work we get to read every day from the associated press explain what we're going to be hearing
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tomorrow. coming up after our final break, a genuine emergency tonight in a huge population center. the fires that have exploded in their size and power in southern california when "the 11th hour" continues.
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last thing before we leave you tonight, if you have friends or loved ones in southern california and most important for our viewers watching us from
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there, this is another desperate night after wildfires absolutely exploded in size and intensity over the past 24 hours. a satellite image from today shows the smoke plume heading out over the pacific. again, because of the rare and dangerous dynamic of the santa ana winds, which reverse our usually west to east airflow over the country, by blowing out to the west down over the mountains and out over the ocean, nearly 30,000 people are on the run tonight, out of their homes. the biggest of the fairs in ventura county has burned through 50,000 acres and growing. most of the fires burning in southern california are 0% to 5% contained. that's what it looks like there on the ground. relative humidity is 7%. wind gust forecasts gust 60 to 70 miles an hour. >> just a big burn area right now. this is near the 101 and 33
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freeway. i'm going to come out to a wide shot to give you an overall perspective of the fire. you can see the extent of that flame in the area. now, that is the 101 freeway and pacific ocean on the left side of your screen. i'm going to come across the right here back to the east, and all the dark area and the homes you see in the dark there, all that area has burned since last night. haunting images just three hours ego in southern california. our thanks to our station knbc for that. estimates of total homes lost begin in the hundreds. this particular wind event is forecasted to go on for two or three more days. and needless to say, this is important, exhaustion is starting to take hold of pilots, firefighters and aircrews we keep them in our thoughts as they head into another long
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night. that is our broadcast for this tuesday evening. thank you so much for being with us and good night from new york headquarters. >> thank you very much. >> following the money. >> i am not involved in russia. i have no vechts in russia. i have no deals that could happen in russia because we've stayed away. >> multiple reports that the mueller investigation has subpoenaed president trump's financial records from deutsche bank. tonight, the white house pushback. and congresswoman maxine waters on what this means for the president. then why republicans are returning to roy moore. >> i think he's going to do very well. >> as the democrat in the race fights back. >> man who hurt little girls should go to jail and not the united states senate. and new reporting that mike pence plotted a coup in the wake of the "access hollywood" tape.

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