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bannon was down there tonight. he is endorsed moore -- moore was all but guaranteed to win the primary. swooped in at the end and has helped maneuver the republican party into full throated support of a man who stands credible accused of molesting a 14-year-old and sexual assaulting a 16-year-old. thank you both for being with me tonight. that is "all in" for this evening. the president had a strange luncheon meeting today with six republican senators who wanted to be heard on international trade but none of the senators are on the senate finance committee which has jurisdiction over international trade and so it was very likely a waste of time for all involved, except
here in new york, day 320 of the trump administration. a day in which the administration wrestled with what seems to be a new turn in the mueller investigation. multiple news organizations by that we mean bloomberg, the financial times, reuters, "wall street journal" report that the special council has suspected deutsche bank for information about donald trump's financial dealings. the bank is trump's biggest lender, traditionally have supplied over $300 million for a number of real estate ventures over the years. over the past two decades, in fact, the bank has played a major role in the president's businesses and has been one of the only big financial institutions willing to deal with donald trump at times. today, white house lawyer jay sekulow denied the reports and while oddly word here is what said, quote, we have confirmed that the news reports that the special counsel had subpoenaed financial records relating to
the president are false. no subpoena has been issued or bank and other sources. the bank, however, had issued this statement. deutsche bank takes is legal obligation seriously, remains committed to cooperating with authorized investigations into this matter. the bloomberg news correspondent who cowrote their news organization's report on this spoke to our own ary melber earlier this evening. >> we stand by our story. we bent back to our sources. we acknowledged the denial. >> you may recall just five months ago the president told "the new york times" that if it came to investigating his finances unrelated to russia, as he saw it, that would be crossing a red line. he was asked about that very thing today. >> has mueller crossed a red line with deutsche bank? has mueller crossed a red line? mr. president has mueller crossed a red line. >> thank you. >> there is also news tonight
about that june 2016 meeting at trump tower. you'll recall it was attended by donald junior, manafort and several russian nationals. nbc news exclusively reports donald trump jr. asked a russian lawyer at the june 2016 trump tower meeting whether she had evidence of illegal donations to the clinton foundation. the lawyer told the senate judiciary committee in answers to written questions obtained exclusively by nbc news. lawyer told the committee that she didn't have any such evidence. donald trump jr. will likely have a chance to talk more about that tomorrow when he testifies before the house intelligence committee in a closed-door session. and five days after former national security adviser mike flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the fbi, it is still not clear exactly what the president knew and as the saying goes, when he knew it. thank you howard baker. our own correspondent hallie jackson tried to get answers in the white house briefing.
>> when did the president know that mike flynn lied to the fbi? >> as i said earlier, i referred you back to john dowd's clarification ann would -- >> i'm asking for a day. when did he find out? was that when the announcement was made friday? was it prior to that? >> again i'm not aware of those specifics but i would refer to you john dowd. >> dowd was asked that same question and again he gave this answer in a statement, it's short. quote, i am not going to engage on this subject. flynn was first accused and charged last friday, no more questions. the president has been outspoken about his support for michael flynn as you may have seen but when asked today about flynn's future, mr. trump declined to comment. >> any plans to pardon general flynn, mr. president? >> thank you very much. >> any plans to pardon general flynn, mr. president. >> thank you. >> that's how that went in the oval office. with that, let's turn to our leadoff panel for a tuesday night. michael crowley, national security editor and senior correspondent for politico.
tamara keith, white house correspondent for npr. and ken vogel political reporter for "the new york times." thank you all for being with us especially as part of our leadoff panel tonight. ken, i'll lead off with you. what do you make of this bank subpoena, if true, is it a big deal? what else does it speak of? >> absolutely. we always kind of knew that this was a possibility that mueller would start looking into donald trump's finances and this subpoena, again, if it is accurate that deutsche bank has been subpoenaed, would indicate that he is fully going down that route. deutsche bank is significant because donald trump -- it has at least $130 million worth of donald trump's debt and it sold some of that debt or could have sold some of that debt to russian banks. that could potentially give these russian banks some leverage over donald trump. and so you have the combination here potentially of donald trump's finances as well as his
dealings with russia and how those two things intertwine. so even if the subpoena has not actually been executed, it would stand to reason that this would be a path that mueller would eventually go down. >> michael, i don't need to tell you someone eventually at every cocktail party in washington and new york will corner you and make the point, you're looking for collusion, it's the financial stuff. that's where you're going to find it. >> yeah. >> we also know that mueller has appointed a very powerful deputy on that front. question to you is, do you think trump's red line has shifted a bit on this? >> well, it may have. again, as ken notes, and your lead-in noted there's question about whether these banks have been subpoenaed. a lot of very credible reporting
from multiple news outlets in some cases with a good amount of detail suggesting that this has happened. but donald trump did say at the prompting of "the new york times" reporter several months ago that if the mueller investigation were go into his personal or family finances that could be cause for him to fire robert mueller. politico had some reporting tonight that congressional democrats are freshly alarmed that trump could be headed in this direction, they're redoubling their efforts to try to come up with some sort of legislative shield to make it more difficult for trump to take a step like that. but i think there's both a sense, number one, that has ken said, this is an appropriate direction for mueller to look in. and, number two, that it might mean that mueller might need a little more backstop in case trump does decide to lash out at him over this. >> tamara, what will you make of this story for your npr listeners across the country and
around the world and more importantly, what do you make of the white house response on this front thus far? >> well, jay sekulow was the president's private attorney and you're right in your intro that that statement was oddly phrased. and what we're trying to figure out and we don't quite know the answer to is maybe this coming down to the word subpoena? as in is sekulow focused on a specific word where maybe they've requested the records in some other way. >> yes, it was -- it's not even a double negative, it was like a reverse run around. >> with a twist. >> half positive half negative with a twist. absolutely. we're still trying to figure out just what it is he said there. ken, if you're a member of the house intelligence committee, in walks donald trump jr., in walks
people like us, ha do you want know from him. >> you want to know about this june 2016 meeting with the russian lawyer and lobbyist as well that the russian lawyer has now provided testimony that donald trump was specifically curious about whether he could get information, damaging information about financial support for the clinton foundation. this is something that has been a subject of dispute, but it really gets at this potential collusion. when this meeting was set up with -- by e-mails from this british publicist rob goldstone to donald trump jr., that was the suggestion, that this lawyer would be bringing some damaging information about clintons to the meeting. there's some dispute about whether this occurred. now she is saying that even at the meeting that trump -- donald trump jr. continued to ask for it. that's a key question that i'd be interesting in knowing an answer to. >> and in meeting elements of which kind of dribbled out
continues to loom large over all of this. >> yeah, brian, the meeting is very interesting. i think it's the most -- the meeting that is closest to trump's inner circle or does involve trump's inner circle and also involves russian who's have ties to the kremlin, i think that we've seen a lot of very suspicious activity on the part of figures who are appear for peripheral although we don't completely understand who they are but carter page and george papadopoulos are traveling to europe, page went to russia, met with a lot of different people, we're still filling in the picture. but these are not, you know, blood relatives of the president sitting down in trump tower with paul manafort and jared kushner at the table. so you really want to know everything about this meeting. i just want to link these two subjects, brian, and say that
people are very focused on collusion. it's still not clear whether there was any collusion, but what's interesting about the deutsche bank and the financial records is whether there was financial leverage over trump that wouldn't necessarily constitute collusion, might not even involve a crime, but it would be very important to know if donald trump was essentially in hock to russia and therefore have strategy that would be pleasing to putin. and that would not be collusion but might not be impeachable but a fundamental question that we don't have the answer to because he won't release his tax returns. >> and repeated effort bending over backwards to show the benefit of the doubt to all things and all russians this past political season. so tamara, if you're the president of the united states and you know tomorrow your son is behind closed doors before house intel and this is already a time of shall we call it
increased sensitivity, what's likely to happen? >> well, and your lawyers have been reassuring you that everything is going to be okay and -- >> by christmas in mar-a-lago, yeah. >> i can't imagine my son testifying before a committee so it's got to be tough. but the president of the united states also has to continue to be the president of the united states. and he continues to assert that there is no collusion. you know, the thing about all of these stories that have come out today is they're just like tiny little pieces of this bigger picture that we can't really see, and it is a reminder that robert mueller has a very big job on his hands and that -- and that as journalists we only see sort of a very small part of it. we see like toe nails of the elephant and maybe a little bit of tail every once in a while. >> ken vogel, what is the best
case scenario, donald trump jr. as jimmy kimmel wishes we would call him d.j., t.j. testifies tomorrow, is a headline saying he spoke forthrightly, he took all of our questions, he stayed overtime, what is it? >> well, i don't know about the headline, but i think what they want, what they're argument has been here is that donald trump jr. simply didn't know what he was doing. he wasn't trying to solicit some sort of opposition research from the russian government. he wasn't trying to strike any kind of deal. when he talked previously to sort of link these two stories about how much business the trump organization did from russia, he was just kind of speaking extemporaneously and not about anything in particular. unfortunately for him the best defense might be pleading ignorance or incompetence or
some combination of the two both on this meeting and some of the stuff related to the trump organization finances and his connection to russia. doesn't make him look great, but maybe an argument that could see the way that the president himself hopes to sort of conclusion of this without any charges against him or his family. >> three terrific journalists, always a great conversation. michael crowley, tamara keith, ken vogel, thanks to the three of you. coming up, roy moore now has the full weight of the republican party and the white house and the president behind him. so what might any of it mean for his fellow republicans like all of the house of representatives up for election in 2018? and up next, what do today's developments on russia tell us about robert mueller's investigation? we'll talk to a man who worked with him when "the 11th hour" continues. jimmy's gotten used to his whole room smelling like sweaty odors.
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welcome back. we want to talk about what today's developments on robert mueller's russia investigation mean for the case and what we can learn about the direction generally that it appears it's headed in. for that, we're so happy to have chuck rosenberg here in the studio with us. importantly, he has worked as counsel to robert mueller when he was fbi director and as chief of staff and senior counselor to one james kingdom comey when he was fbi director. his work at doj focussed on counterterrorism, counterintelligence, national security, criminal matters. also happens to be a former u.s. attorney, former federal prosecutor and we're very pleased to say a current msnbc contributor. chuck, i heard you on the air today and it was so important to hear this.
someone asked you a question about mueller going after an obstruction case or going after the president. you bris will you didn't want to put it that way because that gives motive to this this man you know. start by telling the audience what you told me during the commercial break about bob mueller. >> he's the hardest working man i've ever seen and it was difficult even though i'm some years younger to keep up with him. >> you got in at 5:00 a.m. >> i did and i didn't beat him in by very much. >> what's i had managerial style and work ethic and how could that reflect on this case he's been handed. >> he works as hard adds anyone. he doesn't ask anyone to do something that he, himself, wouldn't do. he's a man of tremendous integrity. i don't mean to gush because i'm afraid i'm about to, but working for him is an enormous privilege. being a part of the fbi and working for a man like bob mueller is great privilege. it bothered me that somebody
said and i don't think they meant anything by it that bob mueller is going after the president or he's seeking to put together an obstruction case, i don't think either of those things are true. what he's doing is applying the facts to the law. when you follow the law, you get the facts and apply them to the law and if at the end of the day a particular person or a particular set of charges become pertinent, then so be it. you bring those charges against that person. but i don't think he's out to get anyone. >> let me ask you a lawyer question about john dowd. effective john dowd claiming credit to be the author of the tweet that to some implied or confirmed obstruction of justice if such a thing can happen in our world. he took a position in this case. >> right. >> does that mean he's going to have to not represent the president anymore because he
could conceivably be asked did you, in fact, write that tweet? >> i guess it's conceivable. but there's also ways around that. for instance, if the only -- you asked the lawyer questions i'm afraid you're going to get a lawyer answer. >> that's all right, we came prepared. >> or maybe a prosecutor answer. but, if the only fact that the mueller team needs that john dowd wrote that e-mail, they can stipulate to that. so there's probably a way around a potential conflict. frankly i don't think it's a great moment. >> when we hear about the deutsche bank potential subpoenas, is that further evidence to an experienced guy like you that donald trump's tax returns have been sitting on bob mueller's desk for a week now. >> yes, let me take that in two parts. when i was an assistant u.s. attorney, a line prosecutor, i handled white collar criminal occasions. and one of the first things do
you in such a case is you get the tax returns of the people you're looking at. why? because from those tax returns you can figure out where money is coming from and where money is going to. in fact, if you look at the manafort and gates indictment, it's obvious that they had the tax returns and used those to issue a whole bunch of subpoenas to get more information. so should we assume that the mueller team has the tax returns and not just the president but perhaps of his subsidiaries and folks he works with, you bet we should. i don't know that by know what i did as a prosecutor and that would be a very logical step and based on that you issue subpoenas. so to my way of thinking it's not remarkable if deutsche bank got a subpoena. it would be remarkable if they did not. >> how does it feel for you as a career man of the law and law enforcement to see the fbi under attack, criticized, trolls,
called in tatters? this is the fbi after all. >> and i was proud to work for it under two tremendous directors, both bob mueller and jim comey. it pains me. it's not in tatters. i can't prove it to you sitting here, but i can offer you a method of proof. the federal courthouse doors in this nation are to every citizen. you can walk into any courthouse in america, in albuquerque, topeka and albany, you can watch a federal criminal trial. you can watch the men and women of the fbi or the atf or the dea testifying, you can see the fruits of their labor. they're not in tatters. this is a strong, proud, vibrant organization. you can call it whatever you want, but i'm telling what you it is. it is not in tatters. >> it's a pleasure being able for us to be able to bounce these questions off a man of your experience. >> my pleasure. >> thank you very much. >> yes, sir. >> for being with us. we look forward to many more appearances by chuck rosenberg. >> coming up here, chris
we've just had in the commercial break in we're pleased to welcome our friend chris matthews obviously host of "hardball" and in case you are the american who hasn't heard, author of the new york times best seller "bobby kennedy, a rage willing spirit" which i can personally tell is you a great book and great read and deserves its spot on the amazon politics column number one as you go on that vast bookstore. i watch you every evening. you love our newsroom because all you can hear is your voice between 7:00 and 8:00 p.m. eastern time. nothing gets you angry. there's two things that gets you angry, number one the number of medals on the north korean army uniforms. >> what wars did they fight in they're too young. >> and second, anything that causes you to compare the trump family to the romanoffs. >> yes.
>> why. >> because it seems like a family is running the country. almost like an nba star, these have his entourage with him about but it's always ivanka and his son-in-law. you see a picture of the cabinet meeting and they're around him. of course the romanoffs didn't end too well, it's not a perfect model. >> this is actually germane and it's important because do you think that jared kushner with his harvard education and his experience in new york real estate understands that if we move that embassy to jerusalem we could spark a full-on antifa and real people could die? >> i believe that's the hor and i believe i lived in the jersey city for a month, i understood the intricacy of that city and the beauty is you hear the call to prayer which is wonderful for westerner's ear. and you see the jewish people going to church all day and to sin going and you see the armenians and they're sort of
medieval costumes and everything's intricately working together and as you suggested, why do you want to shake that up? because it looks like we're recognize the state of israel's exclusive right to jerusalem, in other words all of jerusalem, including all of the sacred spot there where mohamed ascended into heaven as they believe, all that take it all away. i wish the president would say at least it's still open to discussion what we're going to do with east jerusalem. and they said they're already cutting off the palestinians from going to their capital city that they've always thought as their capital. it's just crazy. you've seen this with shah ron in years, you went up on the temple mount that time and all the said there's an antifa. and by the way we would have an american embassy blown up somewhere in the world, it could
be in istanbul, it could be in indonesia, it would be in africa somewhere. it would be in east africa, kenya, tanzania, we're everywhere, americans, we're much more exposed than israel, ironically r a small country, because we have people everywhere in the world that could be picked up and basically be killed because of what we just did. and we don't know the explosive power of the consequences. >> by the way for all of u.s. embassy and state department security people around the job who take their job of defending americans so seriously, this has been a very serious time. that reminds me, you are a self-admitted institutionalist. >> right. >> you believe in the powers of government to serve people. having said that, what do you mourn the most? is it the 2,000 diplomats that are no longer there.
>> we count on that as much as we do in the courts. look at how watergate what you are all thinking about now how it took place. the judge public appointee hanging judge, he did it a republican employee. sam irving did it. he did it. people come to the job and do it in remarkably wonderful ways perform the duties they were assigned to and the oath they took. they do it and those people are the ones save the squares, the guys with the pocket protecters, the guys that used to use slide rules. the people that put astronauts into the air, the people that make sure the system works. they don't make a lot of money and they do like job security, but in exchange for that they take a commitment that's almost like a religious vocation to their jobs. and they're the ones that save us when we're in trouble. you know the deep state that trump fears? it's there. >> i saw the picture on the back of your book, reduce steven
colbert to tears because of it's role in his life. why do you think that your book has struck such a chord with people coming out right now as it does today? >> this, brian, and i know you drew grew up like this like i did, the affection, the patriotic affection of these work guys, he knew how do a perfect salute, he has his son, here's the perfect kid, working all day, weekday, dirt all over him, the wife, just poor. >> it was a sense of duty. >> but, you know, i worked on capitol hill and i remember working as a cop and talking to people and i worked with an old west virginia guy just like these people, a good ol' boy. it was during the time of the '60s when the hard hats were at war with the long hairs, remember that? and he called me aside as the college kid just back from the peace corps and he said you know why the little old man loves his
country? i said don't know. he said it's always god. he doesn't have the beautiful family and the house and the have a equations but what he has is a flag and a country he has served. and they felt that reverence for bobby kennedy, a democrat, a liberal. that's gone. that connection between affectionate patriotism and liberalism. today we have working people probably for trump, they were for reagan they broke off from the democrat party because they felt like they were being discarded. another rule of life, people don't like being used they mind very much being discarded. these people feel like the democratic party let them down. i'm not sure it's true, but they feel that way. and i think bobby kennedy always assured them. he would say, my people are the waitresses and the firefighters and the construction workers. they're my people, white or black. and i think that's something that's lost right now and i think it's poignant and i think people feel that loss. because the division in this
country every day seems to be white versus black. it seems to be -- it's just right down the middle the heart of the country this division. >> that's why people are buying the book. pleasure to watch every night, pleasure to read your book. >> you look so rested that the time of night. >> well, by now i'm a night owl, this is our shift. chris matthews, thanks. the book is "bobby kennedy, a raging spirit ". coming up another break for us the president's full-throated endorse meant of roy moore creating awkward questions for the white house and the rest of the grand ol' party. that's when we continue.
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steve bannon, donald trump's former chief strategist was in alabama tonight as a rally for the republican senate candidate roy moore. they were in fair hope, alabama. for weeks moore has been persona non grata with a lot of republicans on the hill as recently as this morning mitch mcconnell said moore could face an ethics investigation if he wins the seat.
but tonight bannon had his moment to fight back and he blasted the gop establishment. >> let's talk about the republican establishment because they're the ones that first game after judge moore. >> yes. >> let's talk about jeff flake. did he sign a check today $100 to jones? right? what'd he say, he put country ahead of party? come on, brother, if you're going write a check, write a check. let's talk about another beauty. willard mitt romney. what'd he say yesterday? honor and integrity. honor and -- that judge moore lacked honor and integrity and that's why he couldn't vote for him. while we're on the subject of vietnam and honor and integrity, you avoided service, brother? right? he likes being called leader mcconnell. are you kidding me? donald trump won in wisconsin and brought ron johnson across the finish line. he won in pennsylvania and brought toomey across the finish line. he won in north carolina and
brought burr across the finish line. mitch are you owe your job to donald trump. >> here to talk about it cornell belcher democratic poster who works on the campaigns. jill colvin back with us white house reporter for the associated press and david jolly back with us former congressman from florida. okay, congressman, mike murphy who is funnier than the average gop political consultant said on this broadcast steve bannon can't deliver a pizza let alone a congressional district race. do you think bannon's going to have better luck this time around? >> well, the people of alabama might elect roy moore and we know that. listen, steve bannon is that drunk uncle at your thanksgiving dinner. what he has done is doubled down on what trump did by endorsing moore and now he's using it to attack romney and mcconnell.
by attacking mitt romney, steve bannon and in essence donald trump ha chosen a new foil and it's a foul unlike anybody else. there are very few republicans with the elegance and conservatism that mitt romney has, and i don't know that this is a fight that steve bannon and donald trump want to have with mitt romney. if there is a fight for the soul of the republican party, mitt romney commands a lot of respect among conservatives. steve bannon picked a fight tonight and it will be interesting what it means for the future of the party. >> cornell, since you're the numbers guy here, do you trust any of the polling you see coming out of alabama. >> well, here is the tough part, brian, is that, you know, we can't -- it's hard to judge or this is the art of it, right, what kind of elector rate is going to turn out, right. the polling isn't so much wrong
as the art of it is wrong because it's such a topsy turvy time we don't know or understand who's really going to show out and who's not going to turn out, right. if you told me two months ago that the democratic -- that the electorate in virginia would be 13 points, you know, plus 13 points democratic, i would say well that's an outlier. i don't think that's going to happen. >> yeah. >> but that's what you had. so it depends on who turns out. what you're hearing on alabama is you have a lot of energy on both sides, right. and people are talking about we've seen -- we've never seen this sort of energy among democrats in this state before because they've never had this sort of opportunity before. it's all going to come down to sort of who turns out, right. you know, do you get moderate republican turning out at the same pace as they typically do? my guess is that the only way that doug jones wins this is in fact do you have some crossover
moderate republicans and then some dropoff and what you typically see in republican turnout because they are so depressed or suppressed by what sort of the ugliness that they see going on. and quite frankly, judge moore is outside the values of i got to think of a lot of mainstream, you know, christian conservatives there because he -- here's a guy who won't go to a mall because he was creeping out little girls. >> jill, i would never ask you for a personal opinion so i'll come at it a different way. how will you measure any potential damage to donald trump by getting into this race and his endorsement which then of course triggered the gop to jump back into alabama and how will you mesh you're the impact of this race on the entire house of representatives being up for election or re-election in 2018? >> well, look, i think that what happens here is if roy moore loses this race, that's going to be a huge punch in the gut to
the president who's really going out of most of the party's comfort zone here and endorsing him so vocally. president first endorsed luther strange in this race, he of course loss. if he's two or two losing donald trump say man who just doesn't like to lose also. you know, if you got a republican losing in a state like alabama, that's very, very bad news when it comes to 2018, especially as tax reform or the tax bill is now kind of working its way through congress. if you've got republican congress that's really nothing to show for itself after all of this, it's going to be a problem. i also just wanted to note that what i think is so fascinating here about this attack on mitt romney is that it's actually in the past two days we've had the rnc which had pulled support from roy moore has decided to get back into the race and spend a little bit of money. it's actually mitt romney's niece who is the one who is now the chairman of the rnc who today signed two checks going to the alabama state republican party giving them about $170,000 to spend on this race where now we've got bannon up there on stage.
>> proving there are various tributaries of every family and the romneys are no exception. i want to run this all by you and we'll get your reaction. at lunch this afternoon with senate republicans president trump threw his full support behind roy moore a week ahead of the vote. at trump's side, as he spoke, was a visibly uncomfortable arizona republican senator jeff flake who you'll recall if you saw this at all today became something of a hostage in the moment, a human prop for the scene and the president's remarks. while flake later posted a photo on twitter of a check he has written to moore's opponent with the inscription country over party, the damage was done, critics were alleging this man who had been so critical of donald trump had likely been used today. listen as john heilman weighed in with nicole wallace on this network in this studio this afternoon. >> what is jeff flake doing at
the white house? is he just clueless? does he not know that there's some chance he's going to be used as a political prop? because that's what he was used for today. the president put jeff flake next to him in a pool spray, talked about roy moore and jeff flake sat there silent and arguably complicit. the cameras there are, dude. if you want to say you're not with roy moore, all those reporters would take a statement from flake at that moment or walk away but jeff flake has been relatively courageous compared to a lot of republicans on capitol hill related to donald trump. and in this moment donald trump ropes him in, brings him to the white house, sits him there and he sits there like a bump on a log while donald trump talks about why roy moore belongs in the united states senate. >> david jolly, i think the dynamic here is people are generally hungry for profiles and courage and it's such a cynical age when we see that change, when we see any nick in the armor, folks like john go after him. >> john's right. senator flake should not have
gone to the white house. and here's what we're facing in 2018, and today was a perfect example, brian. all of the energy is on the left right now. all the right has is a charade. we saw it today in the meeting with trump and flake. but we also saw it in steve bannon. understand steve bannon, this architect of donald trump say former goldman sachs investment banker vice president who moved from manhattan to l.a. to do further business with hollywood and tonight he's in alabama preaching fire and brimstone condemning a devout mormon and mitt romney. this is the charade that donald trump is relying on being successful while all of the energy is building on the left. and that's why '18 is going to be pretty, pretty difficult for republicans. >> cornell, do you concur? >> i will add this. you know, the mitt romney said something that i think was interesting, that was that this is a stain on the republican party.
i think he's absolutely right and i will go again to virginia and underline this number, plus 22. you know, that was the advantage that democrats had among women voters in virginia. and a lot of this, brian, is why the polls were so off because you're just not predicting -- that's unusual, right. and i think when you look at the energy among women and you look at -- you've got double the amount of women who are running for congress this time than you've seen before. when you see that sort energy and it's building on the left, i think it's really problematic. one last thing i will say, i don't do this very often is courage to senator flake for what he's done. >> our thanks. cornell belcher, jill colvin, david jolly, appreciate the conversation tonight as so much is change around us. coming up, what the president did today that may break with nearly 70 years of u.s. policy. that when "the 11th hour" continues.
as we've been talk about the president is set to announce a major foreign policy shift tomorrow when he officially recognizes jerusalem as the capital of israel fulfilling a campaign promise. senior administration officials said tonight the president will also direct the state department to move the u.s. embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem and that's a bill deal. they're cautioning this process will take years to completes. today the state department had to warn of potential violence. leaders from the european union and the middle east have warned this will flame tensions in the region and undermine any effort to resume the peace process. 86 nations maintain embassies in tel aviv, not one nation has its embassy in jerusalem manned would say for good reason. we've asked jill colvin of the associated press to stick around and talk about this with us. jill, in my reading of this, in 1995 after something called the
jerusalem embassy act, it became the law of our land that we viewed the capital as jerusalem, and every six months since our president has signed a waiver saying maybe this isn't the best time to move the embassy. tomorrow, as i understand it, the president is still going sign that waiver, but he's going to say at this event he wants to begin the process of moving the embassy. do we have that about right? >> yeah, that's exactly right. i think the one thing to keep in mind here is although the president is going to take this historical step and there's no way to underplay how significant and what a change this is in the potential ramifications across the arab and muslim world and across europe. it's also important to note this is not something that's going to happen tomorrow. this is a process that could take years and years. administration officials were naming three to four years on the shortened of finding a site, making sure it's secure, actually building, moving all the embassy personnel. so during that period of time, the president intends to
continue signing these waivers every six months doing what every president before him since president bill clinton has done. they will be working with congress they said to potentially change to law so the president doesn't have to take that step, but nothing is change tomorrow when it comes to the embassy front. >> that's what we needed to hear and it's a pleasure to have jill colvin who's work we get to read every day, the associated press, to explain this event we're going to be seeing tomorrow. jill, always a pleasure to have you on the broadcast. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> coming up after our final break, a genuine emergency tonight in a huge population center. the fires that have exploded in their size and power in southern california. when "the 11th hour" continues.
california and most important for our viewers watching us from there, this is another desperate night after wildfires absolutely exploded in size and intensity over the past 24 hours. a satellite image from today shows the smoke plume heading out over the pacific. again, because of the rare and dangerous dynamic of the santa ana winds which reverse our usual west to east airflow over the country, by blowing out to the west down from the mountains and out over the ocean, nearly 30,000 people are on the run tonight out of their homes. the biggest of the fires in ventura county has burned through 50,000 acres and growing. most of the fires burning in southern california are zero to 5% contained. that's what it looks like there on the ground. relative humidity is 7%. wind gusts forecast for 60 to 70 miles per hour. >> it's the big burn area right
now, this is near the 101 and the 33 freeway. i'm going to come out to the wide shot to give you an overall perspective of the fire. as i come out to a full wide shot you can see the extent of that flame in the area now. that is the 101 freeway and the pacific ocean on the left-hand side of your screen and i'm going to come across to the right here back to the east and show you the santa paula area. all this area here, the dark area that you see and the homes below there, all that area has burned since last night. >> haunting images just three hours ago in southern california. our thanks to our station knbc for that. estimates of the total number of homes lost begin in the hundreds and while it's already been a mean season for southern california, this particular wind event is forecast go on for two or three more days. and needless to say, this is important, exhaustion is starting to take hold of fire crews, pilots and air crews as we keep the folks in our thoughts as they head into another long night.
for us, that's our broadcast for this tuesday evening. thank you so much for being here with us and good night from nbc news headquarters here in new york. ♪ across the middle east, president trump expected to officially recognize jerusalem as israel's capital. plus 100,000 people across southern california forced to evacuate as wildfires rage there. crews are racing to contain those flames. and alabama senate race ramps up as steve bannon hits the campaign trail for roy moore and democrat doug jones ups his attack. good morning, everybody. it is wednesday, december