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out. this man is the energizer bunny. and longest serving advisors questioned in the mueller investigation. and why they went that white house to warn her about russia. plus donald trump campaigns about alabama not in alabama telling people why they should send roy moore to the senate. and about when america was last great and why his answer invoked slavery. all of this ahead as "the 11th hour" gets underway on a friday night. busy night to end it week. good evening once again from our nbc head quarters in new york.
day 323 of the trumped a mip stragz and it brings the russia investigation into president trump's inner most circle. reporting hope hicks was interviewed over the past two days by team mueller. hope hicks has a unique role in thissed a mip stragz. a connecticut native, 29 years old. a former ralph lauren model who worked for ivanka's retail line on the web before joining the trump campaign in its formative days. she has been at donald trump's side ever since. she has seen and heard a lot of private conversation. the new york times is also reporting the fbi warned hicks that russian operatives repeatedly tried to contact her. it doesn't point to any wrong doing on hicks' part but says
quote the russian outreach efforts show that even after american intelligence agencies accuse moscow of trying to influence the outcome of last year's election, russian opare aatives were undaunted in their efforts to establish contact with mr. trump's advisors. new court filings made public just today show the scope of the mueller investigation. and in plain english, it's enormous. this gives us an idea of the mountains of evidence mueller has gathered so far. mueller's team has collected over 400,000 documents, including emails and bank statements. they have the information off of 36 electronic devices like cell phones, like laptops and they are disclosing 15 search warrants that we know of. also today the fiance of the campaign advisor that trump's
people have painted as a low level coffee boy, she spoke publicly for the first time. george pop dopilous who felt guilty about conversations he had had is now cooperating with the mueller investigation. his fiance said he will be just the first domino to fall in the russia investigation. >> constantly in touch, you say, with members of the campaign. was he in touch with steve bannon? >> yes, i know steve bannon, michael flynn. >> everything he was doing was with the knowledge of those official snz. >> as far as i know, absorolute yes. >> the president, will the president be happy with the story george tells?
>> i don't -- i mean, i ten he tried to dismiss george as a copy boy. so there are consistent evidences he was not a copy boy. >> interesting stuff. let's turn to our leadoff panel on a friday night. former chief of staff at cia and pentagon and a national security analyst. nbc national security reporter and bureau chief for the washington post and a political analyst. what would mueller's team have to talk to hope hicks about over two days? i hasten to add borrowing the title of clark clifford's tone, she was present at the creation. >> she knows just about everything the president has
known, conversations he's had. and three things that struck me about the fbi having warned hope hicks early on in the administration. it shows the russians were working every single angle to mike sure they got a full return on their if vestment. second, it shows the fbi doing their job well. it shows why he says the fbi's in thatters. it's because the fbi is warning people inside our government to penetrate the inner circle. and third, i think it's clear she told her boss when she got these warnings in early february and march and that shows with he fired james comey in may, he knew the fbi was on to efforts on the trump inner circle. >> and remind us how it is that donald trump jr., reportedly, invoked the name of hope hicks? >> well, as a matter of fact,
bryan, when he was asked about that misleading statement that his father crafted about the june 2016 trump tower meeting that he talked about this with hope hicks had, not with his father. and then when it turned to questions about his father when it was about russian adoptions when it wasn't, he then sieltti attorney/client privilege. so, he didn't answer any questions bouts his exchanges with his father about that mesleading statement and it's increasingly looking like the most important part of the trump tower meeting has to do with why pt misled the president about it. >> fill in any blanks i've left out of this hugely important 29-year-old. you've been around the whole
time she's been around in an important role. >> a couple things, bryan. she's much more than just a spokesperson. she's a real confident and adviser to trump as a candidate and now as a president. she's around him all the time. donald trump doesn't do email himself but one of the ways is by going through hope hicks. there are other people in the innercircle. she's never worked in government, never worked in politics before this campaign. she doesn't know the rules and riggers and expectations of the political world or the government world but she makes up for it in intense loyalty for trump and the trump family. she is somebody very close to trump and almost like a surrogate daughter. >> so jeremy, this new phrase in at least my lexicon, a defensive briefing from it fbi. had you ever heard of such a thing where they came and said
to someone there's someone looking for you, engage you, please be on guard for it? >> it happens very frequently when they collect information that foreign agency or service is trying to target for collection or influence an american government official. they'll sit down with that official in their office and say hey, you may not be aware of this but they're trying to work you. be weary of this. i think this shows she knew about efforts by russia. she reported up the chain of command. it shows how good the fbi was at tracking these russian efforts and it president clearly resented that fbi skill and prowess. >> i make it a point to listen very carefully when you're on television during the day and what we've learned about the manafort investigation thus far seems to have changed your
opinion and viewpoint about how robust and vast this investigation is and what it could mean to this administration. >> well, bryan, this filing and a lot of other data points i've been picking up in recent weeks just with conversations with lawyers taking witnesses to the grand jury. 400,000 documents gathered in the manafort case and turned over to defense lawyers, 15 search warrants, 36 devices. i mean this is an incredibly thorough investigation and this is just one slice of it. i'm speaking to lawyers saying these are the most impressive fbi agents on tes case they've ever encountered and they're blown away about the kind of intelligence the mueller team has. they're using every national intelligence ased to bear to investigate this case. it's a legal juggernaut and i think we're only seeing glimpses
of it here and there. and this gave us another hint today of how large the scope is. >> and this was just in the matter of mr. manafort. that's how limited the scope is and how broad the net is. this president enjoys nicknames. what's the risk of calling papadopoulos a low-level coffee boy? >> that he wasn't fetching coffee, he was advising on foreign policy. he was not the master mind of the political strategy, he wasn't traveling round the country advising him what to say in his speeches but he was named as part of the foreign policy team at time when president trump didn't have any other real establishment figures from the foreign policy world and he's a young guy they brought in the campaign. according to the account his
fiance gave on television earlier, he had contact with other senior campaign officials and top officials. >> on the topic of hope hicks what does it tell you, if anything, about russia involvement potentially in team trump? >> look, i think riltser clear the russians were looking for every possible angle to gain intelligence and if fluence the innercircle of the trump team and they knew how important hope hicks is and was. it doesn't surprise me. >> can't thank you gentleman enough for being part of our leadoff team on a very busy night in the news business, especially in washington d.c. appreciate it greatly. coming up for us, president trump just over the state line from alabama, he's making a
billed as a make america great again rally. but he also endorsed a senate candidate that stands accused of in appropriate sexual behavior with teen age girls. roy moore denies the accusations against him. one of the woman showed a year book message as proof it two knew each other personally back in the day. today she said she added the date and location herself as a reminder of who he was and when he signed it. here's how the president reacted to that news and it senate election in general tonight. >> so did you see what happened today? you know it yearbook? did you see that? there was a little mistake made. she started writing things in the yearbook. we cannot afford, this country, the future of this country cannot afford to lose a seat in the very, very close united
states senate. we can't afford it, folks. we can't. >> we can't afford to have a liberal democrat who is completely controlled by nancy pelosi and chuck schumer. we can't do it. so get out and vote for roy moore. do it. do it. >> before the president wrapped up his speech roy moore was touting his endorsement. he quoted the president on twitter saying get out and vote for roy moore. president trump. tonight it president again talked about hillary clinton, sparking a lock her up chant among members of the crowd. that was followed by this markedly dark view from an american president of our american institutions. >> look, it's being proven we have a rigged system.
doesn't happen so easy. but this system going to be a lot of changes. this is a rigged system. this is a sick system from the inside. and you know there's no country like our country but we have a lot of sickness in some of our institutions. and we're working very hard. we've got a lot of them straightened out but we do have, we really do. we have a rigged system in this country and we have to change it. terrible, terrible. >> with us tonight for more in pensacola tonight jonathan allen, nbc news national political reporter and co author of "shattered the hillary clinton presidential race ". here in our new york studios white house reporter for politico. jonathan, i'm told there's a bit of a satellite delay so i'll say
this all in one burst. perhaps because it comes on the anniversary week of fdr's great speech telling us we were going to be okay but i thought tonight there was little not in that speech, including a little american carnage. it was very much stream of consciousness and seemed full of grievances. do you agree? >> i think it was full of grievances, bryan. as you pointed out donald trump is in florida tonight but he's casting a long shadow across the state of alabama. tomorrow he'll be in mississippi to the west of alabama. basically bracketing the state. and look, the core roy moore voters voted for trump because, in a lot of cases because of those grievances, because of the way they feel their culture is under attack and i think president trump was speaking to that tonight and trying to intertwine roy moore's fight
with his own fight and it's amazing we can say that a president of the united states essentially came to campaign for someone who's been accused of sexual misconduct with teenagers and yet president trump embraced that much more tonight than he has at any other point. went on a pretty long and passionate defense not only of roy moore but an attack on doug jones, his democratic opponent. >> they keep saying we're living in new times. i'm tempted to believe them sooner rather than later. what does this mean for roy moore? and i guess i'm asking how much of the vote do you think is malleable and susceptible to being lobbied by an appearance or two from the president? >> it's hard to know specifically where the vote stands because alabama is not a market that's usually competitive. that said the most recent surveys do suggest that moore
has the advantage and this is why donald trump's trip is so critical because donald trump imself still, unlike in many states, has an approval rating over 50% in the state. and here is where i think some were surprised tonight and that is that we were definitely expecting him to go after doug jones. were we expecting him to doubt, put into question the verasty of the accusations against roy moore and go after the accuser? well, that is what he did and that heeds into what is happening in alabama and the reason roy moore has been able to stay afloat and because far too few people actually believe the accusations against roy moore and so here you have the president now with a last-minute development here. misrp misrepresenting this year book encryption, which she did acknowledge later she put in the date and title so she remembered
who he was and when it was signed. but the signature, the writing she stands by that it was absolutely had his and if you look at the signature on the woman's note in florida making similar accusations, there ska dead ringer signature there and yet the president is feeding right into that main argument that roy moore is making, which is that the women are lying. >> we look for you every day in the briefing room in your usual seat. do you see, through your prism, anything different about his delivery, his tone, his 10er? he's more palpably a unt hadded man. >> but i think we saw him out having fun in his element in front of a huge crowd. jumping from tachgant to tachgant. and disearnable in many ways
from a campaign speech. talking about the rigged system, as though he's not currently the president. which i think it's interesting to see how long he can keep sticking to the greatest hits as though he's not candidate trump and not president trump. >> to what degree the president went there tonight visa vee the accusers. was this more of a roy moore rally for senate than you expected? >> i did. i thought it would be more glancing. i taught it was possible he might not even mention roy moore by name. somebody in the audience called out roy moore's name and he said you're right roy moore is the guy. the president not only endorsed roy moore, not only attacked
doug jones but did attack the accuser -- one of the accusers of roy moore. and it president himself has denied alligations of sexual misconduct today. another person coming forward saying he had attempted to kiss her at one point. there's a complex the president shares with roy moore and they're trying to get people to not to do things they uzcuse him -- >> before i ask you what happens if roy moore wins, i want to lisb along with our audience to some roy moore comments from back in august about vladimir putin. >> he said russia was the focus of evil in the modern world. >> you could say that very well about america, couldn't you?
>> you think? >> we promote a lot of bad things, you know. >> like? >> same-sex marriage. >> that's the very argument vladimir putin makes. >> then maybe putin is right. maybe he's more kin to me than i know. >> back to that question what happens if roy moore wins? >> rilit's kind of a lose-lose t situation and we take mitch kaunl at his word that they'll immediately hold an ethics investigation and then they have quite a dilemma on their hands. because they do face a question of whether they really want to overturn the will of the alabama voters who, despite knowing all of these things, put roy moore into the senate or he loses and then trarlts obvious why that
hurts. they lose a critical seat where they have a slim majority. so it is a lose-lose situation for the gop. >> if roy moore loses and the president, let's not forget went down for big luther. how much of the prestige of office has now, as of tonight gone into tis campaign? >> i think trump is all in. i think you couldn't define it any other way. he's not in alabama but he's in the media market. his white house has come pretty close to defending moore. the rnc following trump's lead is back in on this race. trump's all in here in ways that we haven't really seen yet as president. he didn't do much for ed gillespie, didn't campaign for
him. so i think a defeat for roy moore, which again pretty unlikely, but that would be a blow to a president in a state where he's so popular. >> three great writers covering politics today and more importantly this race. our thanks for joining us on a friday night. when we continue the state of the race as we know it tonight in alabama and what it might take for a political upset there. none other than steve cornacky at the big board. an important message about health care reform. most americans must have health insurance by december 15th... or pay a tax penalty. even if you already have insurance, now's the time to cut through the confusion and
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sofi. get there sooner. what does the president's backing of him mean? >> it means he stands behind him and he believes him, i believe. the whole thing has me are fired up and i've offered to take anybody and everybody to the voting polls. >> why do you think the president backed him? >> because he's got conservative values i think alabama needs to have and keep. i think alabama can see through it lies. >> a little snap shot of folks outside the event. with just over three days until voters actually head to the polls, the race to decide it state's next u.s. senator remains tight. we have asked our national
political correspondent to join us at the big board with his look at it. i have so many questions for you, inhadcluding absentee ballots. >> and we talk so much about early voting. the thing about alabama is the number of absentee votes, the number of early votes going to be very low. so in terms of the tea leaves of that, this is go toing to be more of an old-fashioned one. we're going to see which party does a better job getting their voters out, what regions they come from. every poll throughout, you get a leadoff about two points, a little bit more than two points for roy moore. you're saying well, we're ahead. that's probably good. if you're a democrat, you're saying this is as close as we've been in modern history. the last time they had a race in the single digits in the u.s.
senate for alabama you got to go back to 1996. if democrats want to pull this off on tuesday, a democrat winning in alabama -- we'll show you what the state looked like last year. basically look at the state this way. there are 13 counties. 12 of them right here, largely black counties, overwhelmingly democratic. plus jefferson county. if you're a democrat, even if you're getting blown out, you're going it win. so if the democrats are going to win on tuesday where, are they looking in alabama? it's two basic keys here. number one these counties here i circled. the question here is turnout. is there going to be high turnout, intensity among black voters, particularly in these areas. the suburbs, outside of hunts vill, it's madison county.
the suburbs in jefferson county and a big one to keep an eye on, shelby county just outside of birmingham and mobile, baldwin county on the other side. these are it places where yourv got the conservative republican voters. if there are republicans who cannot pull that lever for roy moore, that's where you're going to find them and the last time roy moore's name was on the ballot in alabama, he lost. so there is a formula for democrats. we'll see if it's there for them on tuesday. the gop is going to face another special eelection after arizona republican congressman resigned following multiple accusations involving sexual misconduct. franks offered an employee $5 million to carry his child as a
surrogate. according to an associate of the former staffer. you don't hear that every day. he had had announced yesterday that he would leave office at the end of january but today released statement saying last night my wife was admitted to the hospital in washington d.c. due to an ongoing ailment. after discussing options with our family we came to the conclusion that it best thing for our family now would be to tender my previous resignation effective today. and at a certain point we've got to start talking about the impact of vacant seats that are starting to pile up. people in politics will tell you they think this is really going to -- there's going to be so many people leaving town, leaving their seats, it's going to effect the map. >> we're in december right now 2017 for an election next year
in november. for this particular district there will now be a special election. for republicans, they should keep the seat. but a lot of people are likening the situation to, in terms of political impact. they had something called the house banking scandal. all these congressman were bouncing unhads of checks. it was basically free loans for membersf congress. the names all got released that year and there was this huge turnover. dozens and dozens of members retired. they knew they couldn't get reelected. a lot of people now looking at this say this could have in terms of this fun, this settlement fund we know exists for members of congress. you could start seeing that really once in a generation churn. >> if we don't see you before, we'll see you it night of the alabama vote. an important civil rights museum
we want to update you on something we heard the president said. bracing to hear an american president say we have a sick system, we have a rigged system in our country. well, it arizona republican who has been freed up vocally because he's not running for reelection, jeff flake hopped on social media in response. says this is fought a sick system, nor is it a rigged system. let's not sew distrust in our democratic institutions. tomorrow the president will attend a private ceremony for the opening of the mississippi civil rights museum. democratic congressman john lewis of georgia, nothing less
than an icon is one of many honored at it museum but has refused to attend the opening because the president will be there. congressman bennie thompson has joined lewis in the decision saying in part quote president trump's attendance and his hurtful policies are an ifsult to the people portrayed in this civil rights museum. the white house "we think it's unfortunate that these members of congress wouldn't join the president in honoring the incredible sacrifice civil rights leaders made to right the injustices in our country." "it is laughable that whiesz is criticizing john lewis and bennie thompson for not attending the opening of a civil rights museum that honors the sacrifice of -- wait -- john
lewis, bennie johnson and others. and eugene scott's back with us as well, political reporter for the washington post. both have chronicled this president's are esponse to issues like the nfl protest, the violent alt-right rally in charlottesville and his ongoing feud with assorted members of congress. gentleman, welcome. well, let's talk about -- we'll start with home field advantage since you're in new york. perhaps in light of the rally we saw tonight in pensacola and the president's comments really going all in on the roy moore race. >> the president of the united states has basically said any system of government that does not bend to his will is corrupt or broken. the fbi is in thatters with had it doesn't work for him but it was great when comey was in his had favor and had a letter. so we have a president that
consistently undermines the if had stugzs that bring our country together. so it's not surprising that no one would want to spend time with him at a civil rights museum when he seems to undermine the work these men and women put their lives on the line fighting american apartheid but seems not interested in the sacrifices. >> john lewis came within an inch of losing his life because such egregious head wound? is it possible people have forgotten? >> one of those people is likely president trump himself. you may remember the president previously attacked the representative john lewis calling him all talk and no action and anyone who's familiar with not just civil rights history but american history knows that the representative is not that and that is why he brought it up that perhaps the president himself's commitment
to civil rights activists and protests leave as lot to be desired and he did not want to stand beside him in what tomorrow will present given what president has said about activists reitzantly. >> then we have roy moore comments about last time america was great. >> those were deeply problematic to say the least. there were african american asked roy moore with the last time he thought america was great and he made a reference to slavery saying it was a time with families were united and anyone with a basic understanding of history knows slavery is a time when many black families were not strong and not valued and so it reif had forced many fears that black voters had that make america great again meant to celebrate a time that was not quite great
for black americans. >> this is piling on but i have to read this. a lot of people thought this was the most if flamatory and explosive thing they saw today. this is a tweet from u.s. congressman steve king, republican of iowa, one of the stall warts on the road. diversity is not our strength. hungarian prime minister victor orban quote mixing cultures will not lead to a higher quality of life but a lower one." are people forgiven for checking calendars and making sure it's not 1955? >> these are politicians that don't believe in what america is. the very strength of this country has been bringing people from africa and asia and different places, even my people brought here unvoluntarily are still a part of the fabric that
makes america great. and while i've always felt voters had had the opportunity to put anyone in office they -- and clearly he doesn't know what makes him, their district or itself great. >> this may call for opinion on your part. what happens tomorrow in mississippi? >> nothing. the president's going to be there. he may or may not make a statement later. these are not the kinds of things the president of the united states are particularly concerned. he thought fredric douglas might be alive and working in a library. >> yeah, people are saying great things about him had. >> and you mention this earlier, bryan. it's almost trolling at this point. there is no policy to back up any of these efforts the president makes. when he has a video about rosa
parks, he doesn't back it up. you might just be antagonizing people because it doesn't seem to have any meat behind it. >> quite frankly if you look at some of the approval ratings, some of his lowest numbers come from black voters and that's because they would like to see him address events if stead of attending ceremonial events. >> it's great to sl you both return to the broadcast. our thanks. coming up historian and author john meacham, here to take on this topic of sivlt rights in the south. the 45th anniversary of the last time we went up there and walked around. the apollo 17 mission when we come right back.
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we don't want to skip a beat in our conversation so we'll bring him right in. author and historian, john meach meacham. and germane to our conversation happens to be a southerner. no one ever rolled credits on the civil rights struggle. no one ever said well, that's over because of course it never ended and won't. so i need you to sum up just where we are visa v the president's remarks in pensacola, his attendance tomorrow in mississippi and the fact that an icon or two of the struggle has chosen to stay away because of it. >> everything old is new again, right? you had a president of the united states today who was making and offered an endorsement of a candidate for federal office in a state where, on the 11th of june 1963 the
governor of that state, george chorally wallace, stood in the schoolhouse door, had had pledged to fight integration, stood on the place in january 1963 where jefferson davis had been sworn in as nofz confederacy. when wallace looked to his left about 5/600 yards he would see baptist church, the pulpit of martin luther king. he pledged segregation forever. you now have that speech led to the stand in the schoolhouse door, the federal government under the kennedy administration forced integration. and that night president kennedy announced the civil rights struggle was as clear as scripture and as certain as the
american constitution, proposed the silver rights bill that linden johnson did everything he could to pass. the next night june 12th, 1963, in what people have called the first political assassination, medger evers, the monopoly. field director was shot in his front yard. it bullet came to rest in his had kitchen. the rifle that was used in that murder will be in the museum tomorrow sg president trump is there he might take a look and think about how close that violence, how tangible the extraordinary story of civil rights is. that people like john lewis and medger evers and martin luther king and dianne gnash and so many other people acted out really the fundamental story of
martyrdom. they were willing to shed their blood for the redemption of a country. i think a lot of us are worried that that redemption is to some extent at risk. >> iall s aulso want to bring something else to life. the picture of apollo 17. last time we went up to the had moon, walked around and came back. 45 years ago on pearl harbor day. this would have been the second day of its voyage to the moon. astronauts schmidt, and evans if memory serves. what did we learn by stopping there and fought going back? >> for is something, isn't there, wonderful about the human impulse for exploration and i think the interest in going to mars is clearly linked to the
great story of mercury and apollo. again president kennedy. you tij about his standing and he said we're going to put a man on the moon within a decade and return him safely to earth. there's a remarkable sense, as tumull chews as the 1960s were, it did feel like a moment where we could declare things, set goals and meet them. and 1972 we came back and that was it year that some burglars broke into the watergate hotel and there began to be a significant decline in trust and our institutions to do great things. >> it's always a pleasure for what i hope for our viewers and obvious reasons the discussion we. coming up after our final break an update on the ongoing
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the weekend. increasing to 50 sadly on sunday over much of l.a. and ventura counties. for us, that's our broadcast on a friday night and this week. thank you so very much tonight on "all in" -- >> let me tell you, roy moore denies it. >> donald trump and roy moore join forces. >> by the way, he gives a total denial. >> the president hits the stump and tells alabama to vote for roy moore. then the trent franks mystery is solved. >> i'm going to make a statement. >> new reporting that the congressman offered an aide $5 million to carry his child. plus, what we are learning from the mueller team, including an fbi warning about a russian contact and the plot to stop mueller is growing. >> what would it take to get rid of a special counsel? >> all in, starts right now.