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. i'm steve kornacki. we're still going strong. this is our continuing coverage. how exciting is this? the special election in pennsylvania, the race between conor lamb and rick saccone. the race still too close to call, according to mnbc news. democrat conor lamb currently with a lead of 579 votes. that is out of 227,000 cast
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district wide. that accounts for all of the election day vote and most of the absentee vote. why are we with you at this hour? it's for this reason. we could be within minutes of receiving a critical number, that would be the absentee vote in washington county. that could be enough to tell us if saccone is going to have any mathematical chance to overtake conor lamb. earlier tonight, even though all the votes aren't all counted yet, conor lamb took to the stage and said this to supporters. >> it took a little longer than we thought, but we did it. [cheers and applause] you did it! you did it! >> and the chairman of the house democrats campaign are also declaring victory for his party saying in a statement, quote, want to congratulate conor lamb and his team of grassroots
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supporters on an incredible victory. i'm excited to have conor as a colleague. that's from the democratic side. as for the republicans, rick saccone, they are not conceding anything at this hour. an animated candidate, rick saccone took the stage tonight after the election day vote had been counted. here's what he had to say. >> i just came down to say we're still fighting the fight. it's not over yet. we're going to fight all the way to the end. you know i never give up. you know my first race went into the night, and we won that. my second race was the same way. we're kind of used to this, right? so that's it. we're not giving up. don't give up, and we'll keep it up! we're going to win it! god bless you all. >> now the saccone campaign tells nbcness they have been in touch with legal counsel tonight, that they are exploring
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their full range of legal options. pennsylvania's law requires a recount for state-wide races if candidates are within a half percentage point of each other. the law is a little murky, though, it doesn't specify what happens when you're in a congressional district like this one. the saccone campaign says it may not make a final decision about their move until march 20th, that is also the dead heiline f both of these districts to file paperwork. they have to decide which district they want to move into if they want to keep running. let me bring you up to speed on what we're looking for. 579 is the margin at this hour for conor lamb. and what we are waiting for, we talked to somebody in the board of elections office right here, washington county. we got basically 1200 absentee ballots of 1,195 votes. they are being counted as we speak.
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we are going to get the announcement probably this hour of how those votes went. saccone is 579 behind. can he cut really severely into this lead here? he's hoping so. he's up against two things. it's a red county, but tonight rick saccone is not winning it by a huge margin. he's only winning by seven. the other thing is what we've seen in allegheny and westmoreland, the absentee vote there has been more favorable to lamb than the election day vote. so, if that continues, that 53 could come down even further for saccone. and you're sitting there looking at that bank of 1200 votes. how many is he actually going to be able to gain? he would need a departure in washington county from what we saw in westmoreland and what we saw in allegheny earlier. he really desperately needs it. can he get it? we're going to find out. that's certainly the biggest chunk of outstanding votes.
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then you have greene. i think they went to sleep. they're probably going to be counted tomorrow. how candidate race go on election day? 58% for saccone, a very small county. again, if that trend held, that number might be a little different in the absentee ballot. so absentee, and beyond that, military and provisional. military is going to be a very small number. we talked to somebody in washington county, they said there are 14 military ballots in that entire county. they're going to have a week to get those in and count those. but there's a total of 14 at the most. you can expect similarly low numbers. the rest of the district might be an area where saccone could cut into the lead. provisional, let's see the expectation here. es personalespecially in allegh. those are a little more favorable to lamb. you can look at these other
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areas more republican. that's t you' that's it. you're going to have dozens or scores of military votes. what saccone needs, and he needs it in this hour when they release that number from washington. he needs a big number out of washington county. i think he's got to do better than he did in the election day vote there. he's got to improve on that 53%. you could get a big number, multiply it into that 1200 of outstanding ballots. maybe he could start to eat into it. the math is stacked against him, but you can certainly understand from his standpoint why he's not giving up yet. it's an exciting hour. it's ear it's early morning. we all get to watch it together. if you are up now, do not go to sleep. what would be the point of staying up this late and going to sleep now. i know you're supposed to be going to work tomorrow, so am i.
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we're going to be talking about this 50 years from now. joining me now, a msnbc contribu contributor, jason, let me start with you. whatever happens tonight, we've seen a 20-point swing in this district from the 2016 result. trump won by 20, and it's not the first district we've seen this in. >> this is getting worse and worse four tr the democrats. i've never been in love with the generic congressional ballot. but what we've been seeing is this. the special elections are getting closer and closer, and democrats have started to break through. they're winning state senate races, house races. then they win with doug jones and now they've won with conor lamb, or it seems very likely they've won with conor lambs. the republicans have a chance of saving themselves from a blue
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wave. they have to stop being lazy with candidates they're putting up. conor lamb was a great candidate any year. saccone was not a great candidate. if they are serious about keeping control of the house and the senate they have to be putting forth competitive candidates. if they keep putting out whatever they think they can get' way with, they're going to get wiped out this fall. >> it's a matter of interest one way or another. but psychologically, if the headline ends up being that lamb wins that versus saccone eked it out by a few votes, do you think for the embattled republican do you think there's a psychological difference saying at least we still won? >> i think so. i think joe biden is right, that there will be more retirements among republicans if conor lamb wins this election, even very narrowly. the more retirements there are, the more level the playing field is as incumbents usually have an
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advantage, and that would help the democrats get to their magic number of 24 to flip the house. the other thing that this race is really indicating to me is the trump factor campaigning locally. this is a guy who goes wherever he wants. you're going to have a lot of republicans this fall who are going to be running for cover, especially in districts that are much more closely divided than this one is. they're going to be saying, or hoping, that the president doesn't come to their district. but trump being trump, he's going to go anyway. so you're going to have these very awkward situations where republican incumbents are going to be campaigning with a president they don't really want to be with. >> caitlyn, that's a very interesting point in this race. if this holds, if conor lamb does end up pulling this out, the president was just there the other day, how do you think he reacts to this? >> exactly. the president campaigned for saccone. a lot of people criticized that
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rally about being a rally for trump. that was kind of the point. he was trying to transfer his support to the ballot, telling people that a vote for saccone was a vote for the trump agenda. and i've been talking to republicans all day about this, whether that support is in fact transferrable. they say it is going to be district by district. there are going to be districts where the president is going to be welcomed. people are going to wrap their arms around him. but other districts, like colorado for example. the house republican, democratic map runs through california and new york, new jersey. those are going to be very different. so republicans and the president have to kind of get on the same page and be strategy eck aboic decision because the outcome of these races affects all of them. >> jason, it's interesting, this question of transferability. all these republicans wondering, hey, trump has this special bond with the republican base, can i tap into that at all. i'm reminded of the frustration
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in the democratic era. couldn't seem to transfer it. >> no. look, it's very, very hard to transfer a really magnetic and interesting presidential candidate, whether it's barack obama, whether it's donald trump, and sort of sprinkle that fairy dust on other candidates. but i think the other thing that's happened is this, steve. republicans down ballot has realized. trumpism is a great suit, it looks nice in the store, but you can't take it home with you. it only fits with one guy. only donald trump can get' way wi with the scandals he he's gotte away with. a lot of them are realizing, i can't embrace trumpism the same way because i don't have the same protective field around myself. i need you to come and raise money, but their behavior is going to moderate, because it's not getting them the same results as it gets the guy in the white house. >> it's interesting, too, that
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conor lamb, the campaign he ran, not all issues, but trade, particularly guns. the nra, the question there. it's been raised in the last few weeks. this was a message in some ways that was a trumpist message for a trumpist district that the democrats ran on. >> on those two issues. but you have to remember, he was very much against the tax cut and very much in favor of obamacare. so on two big democratic issues, he took the traditional democratic line. one area where he, you know, took a different path was on nancy pelosi. and he said he would vote against her for speaker. this is going to be a big issue for democrats and for nancy pelosi personally. what is her decision going to be? republicans spent a huge amount of money in this campaign trying to link conor lamb to pelosi, even though he didn't support her. they're going to do that all over the country. imagine if nancy pelosi says in
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september or october after she's raised a ton of money, you know what? i'm not going to be a candidate for speaker. then she knocks the struts out. >> do you think that's possible? >> it's possible. not probable but very possible. there's been a fair amount of talk about it in their circle. >> what do you think about it? >> she is a huge liability still, and democrats are saying, look, if conor lamb wins, it proves he was able to separate himself from her. but you talk to republicans and look at the polling they're seeing, she is a negative weight on democrats in other areas where they're not going to have the kind of candidate like conor lamb and where you're not requestigoing to have their nationalized focus. he localized it this in an effect testify way when you' you're -- effective way. so that's a problem for republicans as it pertains to trump in some cases, but certainly still a problem for democrats. >> there's a school of thought,
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jason, too, that when it comes to midterm elections, whether it's when obama was in or, they don't have to do too much. you want to check on whoever is in the white house. how much of that is carrying everything wire're seeing tonig, montana, how much of this is the gravity of politics? >> we don't live in a parliamentary system. so if you're unhappy with who's in office we have one other choice. that's why these messages and the lack of messages on the part of democrats nationally is not a big deal during midterms. the only midterm message i can remember is the contract with america in '94. for the most part, if you're the opposition party, as long as you don't have a big scandal, you're going to end up benefitting. and i also say this, and i think this is important about nancy pelosi and her symbolism. if you're the kind of voter motivatesed by animus against
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nancy pelosi, it won't matter if she steps down, it means you are a hard core republican. and even if nancy pelosi isn't there, donald trump has made it clear, he has maxine waters, plenty of others he can throw out as red meat. >> even if they don't get it together this year, they probably do in 2020 if they want to take out donald trump. >> no, i think they do. he think jason and i disagree a little bit on both of these points. you always need a message in politics. it doesn't have to be a one size fits all message, but you've got to focus the people on the issues that are important to you. and if you just run a, you know, a kind of a lackadaisical campaign and are depending on animus toward trump, you're going to pick up some seats because of the gravity you're talking about. but to get to 24, 25 more seats than that, you've got to have something more going for you. and as far as pelosi goes, look,
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i think she was a great speaker in many ways, and she was very much responsible for the affordable care act passing. had almost as much to do with that as the president, barack obama. but, if you can take a target off your back, why not? if you can get generational change, which millennials and a lot of other voters are ready for, why not? good question. if democrats were to go that route, it does raise the question, steny hoyer is the same age. of the things pelosi's done, i think is inch late hersesulate an internal challenge. maybe we'll have that conversation later this year, maybe we won't. thanks, everybody. coming up, how well did conor lamb do in trump country tonight. and of course we are continuing to wait. any minute now, we're getting word from washington county, it could decide the election, or we could go to overtime. we're going to find out.
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go out on tuesday, and just vote like, you got to get out there. the world is watching. i'm going to be home watching the returns. the whole world, remember that, they're all watching. we want to keep it going. we want to keep the agenda, the make america great going. you got to get him in. this is a very important race. >> all right, that was president trump's rallying cry in allegheny county, he was there campaigning for rick saccone over the weekend. that 18th district special election in pennsylvania comes two years after donald trump carried the same district by 20 points. we do not yet know the final outcome tonight. we hope to learn this hour.
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we are waiting any minute now to get the absentee ballots out of washington county. i can't wait to break it all down for you. here is an interesting stat. conor lamb won 172 precincts that were won by donald trump in 2016. meanwhile, rick saccone did not win a single precinct won by hillary clinton in 2016. that's what happens when you've got a 20-point swing there. joining us, david jolly from florida and maria theresa kumar and a msnbc contributor. david jolly, i'm curious about their trump effect. we saw saw energizenergized tur allegheny county. on the other hand, as dave wasserman pointed out. if you look at the votes cast today, it may end up be the case that saccone wince ts the elect
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day vote. is there a point where trump is a drain, he ginned up enthusiasm in the rest of the district? >> i do think the rnc and nrcc's get out to vote effort all the way through lelection day has outperformed democrats. more republicans showed up to vote even if they disagree with the president, they come home to the republican party vote. interestingly, with that lead-in clip about donald trump, the two ends of pennsylvania avenue tonight. what does donald trump do tomorrow morning? does he try to suggest that somehow he made the republican candidate better in pennsylvania? does he suggest that about for him it would have been worse? but the other end of pennsylvania is also important, because i don't see a pathway tonight for how republicans keep the house in november. it is hard to see a pathway for republicans holding a majority
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in november, given the fact that this was a 20-point seat that they nearly lost or perhaps lost tonight. >> and maria, i'm not trying to be a shameless promoter, counting down to this vote, but it does occur to me, the enthusiasm on both sides, david mentions the rnc. on the democratic side i think we may be getting a test in the next few minutes. absentee ballots. did they organize, did they get people to vote ahead of time? >> the republicans are acting like democrats waiting to the last minute to vote. and the democrats look like they're doing it ahead of time. it's usually the flip. but it's interesting to see where we are with the provisional ballots. let's not forget, al franken won his seat because of pro adviceal ballots, by 1,000, because the voting booths go missing. a lot of people have working families and don't get straight information. i would watch the provisional ballots much more closely, a lot
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all right, we continue to wait for a call on the special election in pennsylvania's 18th congressional district. waiting on those absentee ballots in washington county. as soon as they come in, we will be all over it. meanwhile, as we continue to wait, we did hear from both candidates tonight. no concession speech was delivered. there might have been a victory speech or an attempt at a victory speech. rick saccone took the stage first. here's what he had to say. >> wow. i'm applauding you, that's why i came out applauding. i'm applauding you all. i just came down to, you know we're still fighting the fight. it's not over yet. we're going to fight all the way to the end. you know i never give up. you know my first race went into the night and we won that. my second race was the same way. we're kind of used to this now, right? so that's it. we're not, we're not giving up. but i wanted to come down and
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thank you all. and i know you have, you got to go to work tomorrow and everybody's not things to do. and i didn't want to keep you here later than, you know, than you really need to be. because we're going to be working late into the night and into tomorrow. but i wanted to thank you all, because i know how hard you've worked. and i was out at some of the polls today. i know how cold it was, and i know you spent all those hours out there for us, and for our family and for all of you and for the agenda that we're working on. and you never gave up. you never gave up on us. you never gave up on me. and i thank you. thank you. thank you. thank you. [ applause ] you guys are amazing. i'm not kidding. you're amazing. you're always so update, salt of the earth, the best people in the world. i couldn't, i couldn't ask for a better blessing than to have supporters like you, and i'm, i'm pleased that you're still here, and, again, i don't want you to try to hang on too much.
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i know many of you got to go. but i definitely wanted to come down and say to you that i thank you ever so much and we're going to keep fighting. don't give up, and we'll keep up. we're going to win it! god bless you all. >> that was rick saccone. he came out and talked to his supporters first. after that, conor lamb. here's what he said. >> well -- [cheers and applause] it took a little longer than we thought, but we did it. [cheers and applause] you did it! you did it! you did it! [cheers and applause] i see, i see so many, i see so many great friends out here.
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[cheers and applause] you know, four months ago, right after we won the democratic nomination, before we ever even had a chance to open an office, the grassroots leaders that are in this room tonight came to us and they said print us something. print anything so we can get out there and start canvassing. [cheers and applause] they said get going. they said. or we're going without you. well, we went together. and i can't thank you enough. [cheers and applause] we followed what i learned in the marines. leave no one behind. [cheers and applause]
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we went everywhere. we talked to everyone. we invited everyone in. and we found that there is public support for programs like social security and medicare that's nearly universal. because these programs are universal. [ applause ] they are america's way of saying, we are all in this together. [cheers and applause] our issue in this campaign is common ground. we fought to find common ground, and we found it. almost everywhere. democrats, republicans, independents, each of us americans. [cheers and applause]
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i've heard it, i've heard it over and over. [cheers and applause] i've heard over and over conor. [cheers and applause] i've heard, conor. the job you're running for is the house of representatives. so, if you get down there, do the job. do the job. okay. i will. mission accepted. [cheers and applause] people are so tired of the shouting on tv and in our politics. it's amazing what happens when you're in a room with real
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people who have real aspirations and real troubles. there's lots of ideas. there's no angry shouting. our job in congress is to attack the problems. not each other. [cheers and applause] people want to be heard. they want to talk about serious things and honest solutions, not be drowned out by dark money, distorting the truth and telling lies to our children. [ applause ] i'm proud that you helped me refuse corporate pac money. [cheers and applause]
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you helped us raise millions in small contributions. 86,000 tdonations. [ applause ] almost all of them small. every one of them in the open. just like our campaign. we were able to campaign the way american democracy is supposed to be. it's supposed to be for you. not just on tv. but in your town halls. at legion posts, in small auditoriums. on your street. at your door. [cheers and applause] and side by side with us at each it step of the way were the men
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and women of organized labor. [cheers and applause] organized labor built western pennsylvania. [cheers and applause] let me tell you something. tonight they have reasserted their right to have a major part in our future. these unions have fought for de decades for wages, working conditions, basic dignity and social justice. thank you. [cheers and applause] thank you. you have brought me into your ranks to fight with you. let me tell you something else.
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i am proud to be right there with you. thank you. let me finish with this. i'm a pennsylvania democrat. a proud, western pennsylvania democrat. [cheers and applause] this is the party of my grandfather. he believed in fdr, who taught us all, he taught us all that people have a right to know that their government walks on their side of the street. what that means is i'll work on the problems our people face. secure their jobs and pensions. protect their family. and i will work with anyone to do that. [cheers and applause]
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completed. that they're now doing the scan, the ballot scan in those 40 remaining precincts, when that is done, if this holds we will then know who won those 1200 votes, 1195 to be exact, in washington county, those absentee votes. and remember, it needs to be, saccone needs a big number here. he's trying to cut into a 579-vote lead for conor lamb. that's where they stood. we got that update in the last two minutes. any update i get i am going to share with you. i promise you, whatever happens to our programming tonight, i am staying up, and i want you to stay up with me, because i want us to all find out together in this county. we cannot invest this much time, this much energy and be killing ourself with a lack of sleep tomorrow without at least finding out how the county voted. please stay up with me, and i promise to stay up with you. we are going to bring in jason johnson at the jonathan alter, caitlin huey
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burns. they are back with us. caitlyn and jonathan, i was saying at the break, i'm almost running out of questions. maybe i take a minute to appreciate the, you know, if you're anybody watching at this hour either an election junky or an insomniac. let's talk to the election junky. you don't get nights like this. this is exciting. >> this is cool. this is an exhibition of every vote counts in this case. i think we're talking about the actual results, what they will be. i think the fact that we are at this point, where it is so close in a district, again, we've been talking about this all night, that trump won by 20.s. the fact that it is 50/50, with the possibility, to your math, of lamb pulling this out, i think you have a lot of republicans across the country really worried, no matter what the results are tonight. >> jonathan, what's going through your mind waiting for these final votes to come in?
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>> since it's 3:00 in the morning one of the things that's going through my mind is i was in a studio on this floor in 2000, on the air with tom brokaw. and we were talking about how that election, the stakes were higher as a presidential election, but it could all be going to court. and indeed it did in florida. i don't think this one is going to go to court. i don't think the republican party nationally really wants to pursue it that much. i mean, these guys are going to run again in november. and they're in different districts. so, but it is fun for anybody who loves politics. and it's why politics is sometimes compared to sports. because there's just a rush you get from the fun of the chase. but i'm also struck by, by something that rick saccone said earlier in the campaign. you know, he, he insulted conor
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lamb a lot. he said that his supporters hated god and hated this country, but at one point he said of his oppose, conor lamb, he's still young and idealistic and thinks he can change the world. >> hmm. >> as if that was an insult, as if that was like a great attack line. and to me, it sort of summarized what's going on now, which is a backlash against that, that kind of cynicism, that idea that young people shouldn't be trying to make change. and i think it's why it looks like he's going to lose tonight. >> jason, help us, this is broadcasting, we're supposed to be excited. help us pass the team until ime get the results. >> we've waited this long. it's sort of like you've been binge watching a certain show, i need to finish, right? i have to see how this ends. so we're staying up to see it,
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but what's getting me here. this is idiosyncratic to pennsylvania. trump's been saying, we're going to win so much you're going to be tired of winning. all that winning also makes candidates and it makes parties lazy. pennsylvania does not have early voting. that means the key to victory is enthusiasm and a ground game. and that's the kind of thing that conor lamb had. he had people on the ground. he had people getting these absentee ballots in. he knew he couldn't rely on early voting one way or another. and i think this race, just like with roy moore in alabama, republicans will have to look at themselves and say, are we getting complacent here? are we getting lazy? are we not doing the things we used to do when we were really competitive going against president obama? we shouldn't be in this situation. republicans should have won this by 2% or 3%, perhaps as much as karen handle beat ossoff. >> one of the characteristics of
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this district, it's unique from the other ones we've looked at in special lek hundreds. we ha -- elections. we have a trump surge or a trump backlash. you've got these two. does the back lash hold, does the surge hold? here's a district that trump won by 20, but romney also won this by 20. and this has been in this century, 2000, basically, this has been that kind of double-digit republican district. now in this special election, 2018, whatever happens with these absentees, it's 20-point swing. >> it includes suburbs of pittsburgh, some of which have highly educated, higher earners that were not part of that trump coalition necessarily that we talk about over and over again. so it is really a combination of the two. and when you look where democrats are targeting, they're
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mainly targeting those suburban area districts that they hope are disenchanted by the president and the party at large, while also trying to get those voters. i mean, you mentioned this district, does it have some history of this kind of democrat, right, of this kind of brand of democrat, which i also think is important to consider. >> their is is the first leelec since the tax cut. >> which lamb ran against. >> and the republicans stopped making that their message at the end. >> very consequential. there's been this assumption that republicans are going to run this fall on the tax cut. hey, you got more money in were your pocket. you didn't see those pittsburgh, suburban men and women going, thank you, president trump. thank you rick saccone who loves president trump, for my tax cut. there wasn't any gratitude that
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you saw. a lot of them voted republican because they're republicans. but that issue was not driving -- >> well, that begs the question, too, republicans tried, right, and they must have been seeing something about the effect it was or wasn't having. >> and you saw over the weekend the president talked about the economy a little bit, talked about the tax cut a little bit but really leaned into more cultural issues and pushed the tariffs hard, which lamb was able it take over for himself. i'm also wondering were we'll see republicans in congress push legislation geared at ginning up their base of support, showing something for their majority in congress, whether or not it has any chance of passing. but you see in election years that that parties try to do that. >> caitlin huey burns, i cannot thank you enough for staying up with me later and later and later into the night as we keep waiting for this. >> it's a good time. >> still not over.
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we are waiting. i am a broken record at this point. but washington county, they are scanning. they are counting those ballots are flying through the machines. i hope they're trying through the machines. and any minute now we are going to find out those 1,195 absentee ballots, how did they go? does saccone still have a chance? or is it over? stay with us. you've made it this far. be right back.
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all right, folks. here is the deal. we are coming up against the top of the hour. we are running out of people here who can even put tv on the air. a couple things i want to say right now. number one, i am not going anywhere. if you have made it this far to try to find out where these absentee ballots land in washington you can stay up and i promise you i will stay up. and the second we find out i will come on and tell you. what's going to happen in a few minutes is i think they're going
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to go to taped programming. stuff that ran earlier in the evening. please know, stay tuned if you're interested in getting these numbers, because we will break in as soon as we get them. i will do it. i can't leave here until i get to these numbers. please stay up with me. let me reset for everyone what exactly it is we're looking for. what the stakes are for the next few minutes, however long it takes. the margin is 579 votes. that is what coneaor lamb leads by. he declared victory tonight. his opponent is conceding nothing. what this is coming down to is wash coun washington county. the number is 1195, that's how many they are running through the machines right now. it is a republican district. for saccone to have a chance to win this election, he's got to cut severely into that 579. what he's up against is this.
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he won it, but by republican standards, you're suppose thed o better in washington county. you are going to need more than 53% of these absentee ballots. what we saw in allegheny and westmoreland is that lamb's doing better on absentees than he did on election day. that pattern would have to break here in washington county, but if it does, saccone could get a bump, if it doesn't, he very quickly runs out of votes. greene county, 200 absentee ballots. they're going to count those tomorrow. there's only 200. military votes that will probably go republican, there are only a couple scores of those. and then provisionals, especially allegheny county, only a couple hundred. the low hundreds here of pro
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fissi provisionals. i think there's a thinking they're going to favor the democrats. if you're saccone and you have to cut into that number, the last big place on the map is washington county. and in washington county, we have been calling them. we're talking to their election folks there. they are in that room, scanning them. can saccone make a big cut there? does it end? when we find out, we will come right on the air. we will take you through everything. we are going to tape, and i will see you any minute now, i hope. "that's not right..." "maybe if i reboot..." "what's with all the popups?" "why does it keep on crashing?" "this is taking forever." "i think it's time for the fixmestick." fixmestick is a plug-in virus removal device. it's the smart, simple, safe way to clean your computer yourself. with fixmestick you don't have to replace your computer. it helps you keep your files, and your privacy. fixmestick reboots your computer from a system on the stick,
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all right, i'm steve kornacki. we're still going strong here early in the morning on the east coast. might still be last night on the west coast. this is our continuing coverage. how exciting is this? the special election in pennsylvania, the race between democrat conor lamb and republican rick saccone. the race still too close to call according to nbc news. no one has called this race. 99%, though, of the expected vote, it is in. it is counted. it's on display for the world to see. democrat conor lamb currently in the lead of 579 votes. that is out of 227,000 cast district wide. that number accounts for all


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