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maladjusted, because you can't adjust to gun violence. those kids said today we're no longer going to accept this as normal. >> if you get a chance to look on social media, there's amazing photos. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> that is "all in" for this evening. the rachel maddow show begins now. >> we will be speaking with one of the student leaders from marjorie stoneman douglas. we will be speaking with one of those student leaders a little later on this hour as we watch those incredible walkouts all over the country today as chris was talking about there with the panel. we're going to start tonight as is our wouldnnt to do, we're go to tastart with the cuban missi
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crisis in 1962. the united states had long been flying high-altitude flights over the nation of cuba, but in 1962, a u- 2 surveillance flight picked up imagery in cuba of something that started that whole crisis, started that whole standoff. it is precisely recognized in history books as having started on october 16th, two days after that u-2 spy plane captured those images in cuba, but it didn't start on october 16th because something happened, it didn't start because on october 16th there was something that kicked off the crisis. the reason we can be so specific is why it started on october 16th is because that crisis
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began when the united states had a revelation. the united states realized and figured out with high confidence, exactly what it was looking at in those photos that had been taken two days earlier. the way the united states was able to identify exactly what they were looking at in those photos, the way the kennedy administration was able it to l at those photos and come to the conclusion that in fact this was a new secret deployment of nuclear weapons bit so much y t union, the reason the cuban missile crisis started was because the u.s. was able to make that identification. and the reason they were able it to make that identification is because of this man. his name is oleg penkovsky.
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unbeknownst to the soviet union, he was secretly spying for brit britain and the united states. he was able to confirm that the soviet union was moving nuclear missiles to cuba. the cia's website, they have a whole section devoted to oleg penkovski. and detailed sites. in 1962. his information gave the kennedy administration such specific technical inside into what they were looking at inside the surveillance photos that president kennedy was able to conclude in 1962 that he had exactly a three-day window, a 72-hour window for negotiating a
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diplomatic solution to this crisis with khrushchev before those soviet missiles would be fully functional and ready to launch. three-day window. they knew what they were looking at because oleg penkovski showed them what they were looking at. so he is credited with altering the course of the cold war. so that u-2 spy plane takes the pictures, october 14, 1962. the u.s. able to analyze the photos and have this important revelation about what they were looking at based on penkovski's revelation. they were able to come to that conclusion on october 14, but less than a woke afteek after t while the crisis is in full flower at its most terrifying and it seems like we might be about to have a nuclear war over this issue, on october 22nd, in
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the middle of the crisis, oleg penkovski was walking down the treat street in moscow and the russians snatched him. we still don't know how they were able to get him, whether they were able to reverse engineer what the u.s. had figured out, so that's how they were able to figure out who had given the u.s. that information or maybe a british double agent secretly working for the russians knew about penkovski being an important asset. or maybe a british double agent gave the kremlin this guy's name. before there was any diplomatic solution in reach, at the time the whole world thought they would start shooting nuclear missiles at each other, oleg pen coughski gets snatched off the streets of moscow.
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the kgb snatched him off the street and charged hem with high treason and espionage. he was convicted. in the spring of 1963, they killed him, they executed him and dumped his ashes in a mass grave. even it today, in 2018, the cia calls him one of the most valuable assets in cisma histor. this asset who was so valuable to the american side from the other side of the equation, he was seen as one of the most dangerous traitors to have ever hurt the soviet union. fast forward to 2004, and the successor agency to the kgb arrests another turncoat double eight colonel from the gru.
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another double agent secretly spying for the west. 2004. they snatched him off the street, december 2004. on suspicion of treason. they put him on trial, secretly in a military court. nobody knew what had become of him for two solid years before finally, in 2006, the russian government announced that in this secret military tribunal, he had been convicted of treason. quote, he confessed to selling the names, addresses and code names of several dozen russian agents to the british security service to mi6. many were deep-cover spies in britain and europe. a newspaper in russia reported at the time that his conviction was announced, they reported at the time that his convection was announced in 2006. the sfv considered the dam age e
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had done was comparable to the damage done by oleg penkovsky. this guy that they picked off 40 years later was considered to have done comparable damage to this guy from the cuban missile crisis. all right, now that is a very dramatic assertion. and it may be overstated. after all, when they got oleg penkovsky, they convicted him and shot him, killed him in prison. when they got the next guy in 2004, they also arrested him, charged him with treason and convicted him, but they didn't kill him. they didn't execute him. they sentenced him to 13 years. he didn't serve out that time. in 2010 he was traded in a western spy swap. he and others were swapped for
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ten russians who had been operating an undercover spy ring in the united states. ultimately, he went to live in britain, the country for which he had done his spying. and of course he was the man who ended up slumped on a park bench in the british town of salisbury last week. he was described as making strange hand motions while otherwise being nonresponsive, while his 33-year-old daughter slumped next to him unconscious with her eyes rolled back in her head. sergei skripal. he was seen in russia as a very, very consequential double agent. somebody who's spying for britain had done profound damage to russian intelligence services. and because of that, it doesn't take a great leap of imagination to figure out why somebody might have wanted to ait ta-- attack
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him. we is still have no explanation for how it happened the way it did. it was quite near to the british science and technology lab. that's exactly the secret facility in britain that would be used to identify a suspected chemical or biological agent. according to british authorities, the agent that was used to attack skripal and his daughter was a very specifically identifiable russian nerve agent, the opposite of a generic poison. this isn't like sarin which is hard to make. but scientists in a japanese doomsday cult figured out how to use it and gas a subway platform in tokyo. this isn't ricin. this was a russian-military-specific sub varietal of nerve agent that doesn't exist anywhere else in the world and hasn't been manufactured by anyone anywhere other than the russian state. it was therefore a very unusual choice for how to kill someone.
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especially if you had any interest in all at getting away with it. this is like signing a bullet and putting your name and address on it before shooting someone. why do that? it's very possible because of the seriousness of his espionage past. it's very possible that they were going to get sergei skripal someday, somewhere, somehow. but the way they went after him, in broad daylight, in a a provential british town, with a nerve agent that is unmistakably traceable to the russian military, that's a very specific type of attack. the pacifics specifics of that almost make it feel like it was some sort of international test. >> mr. skripal and his daughter were poisoned with novichok.
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based on their record of conducting state-sponsored assassinations, including against former intelligence officers whom they regard as legitimate targets, the uk government concluded that it was highly likely that russia was responsible for this reckless and despicable act. they have treated the use of a military-grade nerve agent in europe with sarcasm and defiance. so mr. speaker, there is no alternative conclusion other than that the russian state was culpable for the attempted murder of mr. skripal and his daughter and for threaten ng the lives of others, including the detective sergeant. this constitutes an unlawful use of force against the british kink dom. >> theresa may announcing that the attack on skripal and his daughter was an unlawful use of force against the uk.
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she went on to announce the expulsion of 23 russian diplomats. she canceled meetings with high-level officials. they are pulling back on soccer events in russia later this year. the prime minister also announced increased checks on private flights, customs and freight. she's not explaining exactly why she did that, but it does raise intriguing questions about the investigation about how this nerve agent got into the uk in the first place. so the prime minister's announcement today was followed by an emergency meeting of the u.n. security council, which included, actually, quite strong remarks from america's ambassador to the u.n., nikki haley. >> the united states believes that russia is responsible for the attack on two people in the united kingdom, using a military-grade nerve agent. this is not an isolated incident. the russians complained recently that we criticize them too much.
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if the russian government stopped using chemical weapons to assassinate its enemies, and if the russian government stopped helping its syrian ally to use chemical weapons to kill syrian children, and if russia cooperated with the organization for the prohibition of chemical weapons by turning over all information related to this nerve agent, we would top talki -- stop talking about them. we take no pleasure in having to constantly criticize russia. but we need russia to stop giving us so many reasons to do so. ris russia must fully cooperate and come clean about its open chemical weapons program. >> u.s. ambassador nikki haley speaking today. they precipitated a fairly strong statement from the white house as well. a statement by sarah huckabee
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sanders saying that the united states shares the uk's assessment. and we support the uk's decision to expel russian diplomats as a just response. this latest action by russia fit noo fits into a pattern of behavior that unmines -- undermines the sovereignty and security of nations. oh, really? strong, strong statement. russia's undermining the sovereignty and security of countries worldwide? yes. right. this is a, for this white house, this is a strong, written statement from the press secretary. also a strong statement at the u.n. from necikki haley. you will notice the strong contrast between those remarks and what the president himself has said on this matter. [ inaudible question ]
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>> yeah, as soon as we get the facts straight, and we're going to be speak being with ting wit today. we're speaking with theresa may today. as soon as we get the facts straight, if we agree with them, we will condemn russia or hover -- whoever it may be. >> it may be a 400-pound guy sitting in his bed. so this russian guy, being attacked with a nerve agent developed by the russian military in frabroad daylight i the street in britain, this is a bizarre and scary thing. there are international repercussions to it already. and those will continue. the first strong statement condemning it from the u.s. was from secretary of state rex tillerson who was then fired a few hours afterwards. sen since then we have seen is strong statements from nikki haley and the press secretary.
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they appear not to be getting fired. the president himself on this matter, sort of nah, we'll see who it is. we'll see if we agree. and the elephant in the room, of course, is the ongoing very, the ongoing open questions about our president's own relationship with the russian government. and on that point, i will just make one one point here. last night we reported that democrats on the intelligence committee had unexpectedly released a 21-page document in response to the republicans shutting down the russian investigation in the house. the document the democrats released last night was not just a response to what the republicans that said they were doing. it was also their own status report on where they brielieve e investigation stood at the moment the republicans shut it down. we didn't know this report was coming out until it came out last night. and it was a surprise. as we described, that document described serious aspersions
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about the president and his relationship with russia, including this blunt statement on page six of their report. quote, the committee has learned that candidate trump's private business was actively dpoeshting a business deal in moscow with a sanctioned russian bank during the lelection period. if you think that's old news and you've heard that before, it's not. it is a new and specific and potent assertion from the intelligent committee democrats. well, tonight, a source familiar with the democratic report tells us a little bit more about what that grave assertion is about. the source tells us that, this is not based on public reporting, the source tells us that testimony to the committee raised serious questions during the campaign to secure foreign financing for a trump tower moscow, including from a sanctioned, russian bank. according to our source, there are troubling inconsistencies between public assertions about
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this matter and what the committee discovered through documentary and testimonial evidence during the committee's investigation. so there appears to have been an attempted assassination by chemical warfare on british soil. british security is attributing that to the russian government. the uk government is addressing the matter. the u.s. government is sort of starting to address the matter. but we are in this bizarre situation where our own president's silence and mealy-mouthed hemming and hawing on this subject is in the foreground. while his own secret dealings with the russian government are starting to unfold and starting to be exposed by a congressional investigation that his republican allies are trying to shut down. this is, i mean, we've been watching this at one level or another over the course of the past year and a half, right in
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bin, but with this attempted assassination in britain, police officer is still hospitalized for having gone into the house of these people who apparently were targeted in this attack. two people still fighting for their lives, try trying ing to the effects of the nerve agent. it's like a spy movie with another spy movie embedded inside of it. we've heard from a bunch of people that they have hey've ha time getting ahold of this democratic document. we have posted that if you want to look at it. we've got lots more to get to tonight. we'll be right back. that five stars, two thumbs up, 12-out-of-10, would recommend thing. because if you only want the best thing, you get the #1 thing. directv is rated #1 in customer satisfaction over cable.
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america's most famous landmarks, the skating rink, the christmas tree, the skyscrapers that were built 50 years ago by the family of that symbol of american capitalism, john d. rockefeller. now his heirs are selling a huge chunk of rockefeller center to mitsubishi. it was big news on japanese tv, happy news. but not in the united states. >> what really bothers me is not that the japanese bought it but that the americans couldn't afford to keep it. >> seems like they're taking over the world. >> reporter: for the first time, foreign investors own more u.s. property than u.s. investors own overseas. and polls show that most americans believe japanese economic power is a greater threat to the united states than soviet military power. >> late 1980s. a palpable worry. sometimes approaching a panic. that the united states was being
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economically eclipsed by japan. it really did kind of freak out about it. news magazines ran articles. american car companies released a whole bunch of explicitly, anti-japan car commercials. >> the cutlass is a family car built for our sized families, not theirs. >> ooh. one celebrity made it clear how worried he was, donald trump. he had his first public flirtation with running for president. he kicked off his i-might-run-for-president campaign that year. complained that america was getting is screwed out of billions of dollars by, among other places, japan.
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but, it was the japanese buying american real estate, buying new york real estate that really seemed to bother drum tonald tr the most. this was the allentown, pennsylvania paper quoting donald trump's graduation speech. so many are make billioing bill stripping the u.s. of dignity. i respect the japanese, but we have to fight back. he related an experience with a japanese business tycoon who brought several hench men and an aggressive attitude into his office. he slammed his fist on his desk and said we want real estate. now whether or not that ever happened, a few months after, a japanese firm did buy rockefeller center in new york city, trump told "playboy" magazine, the japanese double screwed the u.s., first they take all our consumer goods and
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put it back by buying manhattan. there's virtually nothing to stop them. bidding on a building in new york, they want to own us. japanese economy ended up going through its own pretty severe crunch. by the mid '90s, the real estate bif binge they had been on, they offloaded their holdings. they eventually took a $2 billion loss and walked away. that kind of experience will scar you. there's a reason why there hasn't been a resurgence of japanese-supported firms. last year the japanese government did find a new york
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real estate investment that they really liked. and the reason they liked it looks like it might be trouble. and that story's next.
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japanese government were scared and gob smacked and weirded out. by the way, donald trump constantly scapegoated japan, blasting the trade deal, saying japan should develop its own nuclear weapons. and then once trump was actually elected, an unusual thing ha happened. shinzo abe managed to get himself to be one of the very first leaders who spoke to the president after his victory. there's supposed to be an order in which the president-elect is is supposed to speak with heads of state so it's predictable and nobody gets offended. the trump campaign just winged it and took calls from hovewhoe. and shinzo abe was calling through to the trump tower switchboard and got himself on
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the phone before anybody else and he was able to set up a meeting the very next week in trump tower. the election on november 8 wasn't calmled until the wee hours of november 9th. before nightfall, shinzo abe has gotten him to agree to this meeting. so japan's prime minister, very nervous over the rhetoric, he became the very first world leader to meet with our president-elect. he rushed to new york to show his eagerness to turn things around with donald trump who spent well over a year bashing japan as part of his campaign schtick. when that meeting happened, the first hard evidence we have it -- of it, these photos. they weren't allowing u.s. press into the meeting, but japanese photographers were allowed in, so we got to see their pictures.
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and it was from these photos that we learned that the president invited his children to the meeting. jared and ivanka were there, too. and that's weird, because a president-elect doesn't usually have his adult daughter and son-in-law sit in on meetings with world leaders. this was one of the first concrete signs, concrete warnings we had about the nepotism problems we were going to have in this administration. and in this particular case, it wasn't just that jared and ivanka were around. they were in on this meeting with a foreign leader. president-elect, foreign leader eager to make nice with this new administration, but the president-elect's daughter and son-in-law are in business. they each have their own web business interests, potentially or already with japan. jared kushner's interests are largely in new york real estate. kushner companies. now bloomberg news reports that not that long after that meeting
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something unusual and previously unreported took place. quote, two months after jared kushner joined the white house as a senior adviser, his family firm sold a stake in a brooklyn building to a unit of a company whose largest shareholder is the government of japan. the brooklyn transaction represented a premium of more than 60% on a price per square foot basis over what kushner and his partners paid a year earlier. this allowed the ownership group to take more stakes in nearby buildings. one connected by a pedestrian walkway remains vacant today. the japanese government primarily operates in japan and has only seven u.s. properties as of september 2016. its purchase of the kushner property was the only purchase made in new york city last year. everybody involved in the story denies any political component to the deal or involvement by jared kushner. but we actually sent a producer
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out to theis building in brooklyn, and the japanese government, the building is definitely ti definitely still empty, even though the japanese-controlled company bought it a year ago for a 60% premium. and even though this is in one of the hottest neighborhoods for development in new york city, it remains vacant. it's just a nice investment to have. a nice thing to dump millions and millions and millions of dollar noose, wh dollars into, when you're country trying to build a relationship with a new administration and new president who brings his son-in-law and daughter to the first meeting with your country's prime minister. joining us is a reporter from bloomberg news who broke this story. thanks for being here. >> thanking for havis for havin. >> there are a number of things that are unusual here.
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the meeting between shinzo abe and donald trump attended by jared kushner and ivanka trump while they were not divested of any of their business interests. how soon did that happen? >> the meeting took place november 2016. they ended up purchasing the building at the end of march 2017. between there, actually, abe came to the u.s. again. he came to washington with his deputy prime minister to start trade talks. then he actually got on air force one with the trump family and jared to go to mar-a-lago. it was that weekend that north korea fired a missile and trump conducted diplomacy in the middle of the mar-a-lago dining room. >> the open air situation room. the company that made this investment with the kushner companies, they are a firm that is partially owned by the japanese government. does the japanese government have a controlling interest in that firm? could the japanese government
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have been the decision-maker in terms of making this investment? >> so, on a technical basis, because they own a third of the company, they have a controlling stake in the sense that they could veto any big decisions this company makes. houg however we have been told that typically, the company is making its own business decisions and isn't looking to the government to make those decisions, especially not on a transaction to transaction basis. >> but with that one third take, the japanese government's significant stake in the company, we've obviously heard a lot of reporting, a lot of speculation, a lot of concern about whether or not jared kushner's role as a white house adviser might overlap in some ways or might have some conflicts with his family businesses seeking investment from state-owned firms or foreign governments. this seems to me like this might be the first one that we're not just worrying about. this is the first one that we're
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actually seeing. this is the first completed deal with government funds going to kushner companies. >> that's correct. so kushner companies previously approached enbon insurance. also qatar, a member of qatar's royal family. and we know they made entreaties to do investments with them on a big indebted property they have in new york. but this is the first one we've seep whe seen where the money changed hands and a stake was traded. >> and we went to the right building. it's is still standing empty, right? >> that's the one. it's fascinating, because all the ones around it have really big tenants. etsy. the neighborhood is dumb boo. we've been told that they're making final changes to that building in anticipation of tenants moving in. that photo you showed seems -- it's empty, but it looks like there's a little bit of work to
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be done yet. >> so the japanese government paid a big premium to buy a building in a really hip neighborhood, left it sitting empty for a year now, and jared kushner's family got the money. weird. congratulations on the scoop. >> thanks for having me. >> thanks for being here. more to come tonight, including the remarkable scenes from across the country today of school kids, mostly high school kids but middle school kids, even elementary school kids walking out of class today to protest america's school shootings. one of the student leaders from parkland, florida is going to join us next.
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outside in idaho, students were just as deafening. this kind of thing happened for hours across the country. students by the hundreds, by the thousands, in some case the tens of thousands took part in a national walkout. the walkouts today started on the east coast, at the stroke of 10:00 a.m. students springed out of their classrooms, then in each successive time zone, it went on like that on the hour every hour like a giant wave washing from east coast to west coast. in boston where schools were closed because of snow, kids showed up to protest anyway. in california, they put marching bands to good use by spelling
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out "enough." elementary students put together hand-written press pacts for local reporters and marched as elementary students. in cobb county, georgia, they had things on what to say. in littleton, colorado, newtown, connecticut, parkland, florida, towns with deep incidents. a massive march in washington, d.c. on march 24th. i'm starting to get the sense that saturday, march it 24th in d.c. is going to be a big deal. it has been one month since 17 people were killed with a single
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gun by a single person. but in that time, we have been led by organized and unwavering students that are getting big irand nbigger and not smaller. ms. chadwick, i know it has been a long and difficult day with a lot of energy expended already. thanks forting staying up to bh us tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> how do you think today went? what you were hoping for, what your own experience was like, if this is what you were expecting. >> i just wanted to start by saying thank you to all the high schools and all the students who participated in the walkout today. even though they knew they could have been punished or suspended. they still went out and walked for what they briefelieved in.
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my heart is filled with love and grief for all the students who walked out and weren't able it to. people are sending me pictures of their schools walking out on social media, sending me thank yous, telling me that they got suspended but they're grlad the did. it's humbling and amazing. >> the experience of direct action like kids took all over the country today is not just a performance but often personally transformative for the people involved, a catlizing thing, a thing they remember their whole lives, that changes their commitment to work on this issue. do you feel like this movement that you're such an important part of will grow larger or change its direction or have new momentum because so many kids did this in so many places? >> we already expected the march
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on march 24th to be a big one. but i think after today it's going to be massive. we're expecting a lot more people to show up now. just by all the support we saw and all the support people are giving us, especially after today, people are realizing this isn't just a one-time thing. we're marching for our lives, basically, and it's, honestly, just amazing, and i think the turnout will be amazing at the march, especially. >> how are things at your high school? obviously, it's been a month since that happened and it took a while to get back to, classrooms to get back to the school being open again after it hand. how is it now going back to school? >> well, the reality is that around 3300 kids will never be the same. a lot of us lost friends, teachers, role models, people that we looked up to, and it's heartbreaking, and it's heartbreaking that something like this had to happen for things to change, for people to realize. it's happened before and it's
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going to continue to happen unless we do something about it. and i think the main thing that all of us students and teachers are focussing on is change and what we can do to ignite it. >> sarah chadwick in parkland, florida. one of the leaders of this growing movement. it was an incredible display today, what you were able to organize on your own terms. thank you for being here. >> thank you so much. >> mosh to come. at's doing over. so my dentist told me to go-pro with crest pro-health. go pro with crest pro-health. the only toothpaste with the ada seal of acceptance for protection against acid erosion. i like knowing that my teeth are protected. crest pro-health protects against acids in everyday food and drinks better than regular toothpaste. go pro with crest pro-health. that's how you nail a checkup. crest. healthy, beautiful smiles for life. gas, bloating, constipation and diarrhea
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