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and the border wall which was desperately needed for our national defense with capital is
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not fully funded. . that was followed by the scramble inside the white house and keeping the president blowing up the deal and triggering another government shutdown. defense secretary jim mattis and john kelly were key in convincing trump not to veto the legislation. and the washington post adds this. aids told trump it would be historic funding, a word he likes to hear. trump was given the list of all the planes and submarines equipment that the bill would fund unless the president would rattle off later. our nbc news colleague reports paul ryan who says the president supported the spending bill and spoke with him by telephone this morning. if you think there is urgency in ryan's voice, consider this. he was already home in wisconsin
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and started the easter break since the big spending bill was done and already in the books. while no one is saying what led the president to the edge, you need to look at this segment that proceeded the president's tweets. it aired on the president's, morning show of choice. >> this is a dysfunctional senate. you know there are things the white house wanted that did get in there. additional funding 10% and dhs funding of 20%. there is no dreamers in there. there is a pro-life stuff in there. >> there is no wall. >> there is no wall. if you cannot ultimately the democrats control this process and the senate, that's why chuck schumer was so happy. >> as we said the president did finally come around but not without listing his grieve
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grieva grievances. >> there is a lot of things that we should not have in this bill. there are some things we should have in the bill. but i say to congress i will never sign another bill like this again. i am not going to do it again. >> nobody read it. it is only hours old, not happy with $1.6 billion but it does start the wall and we'll make that $1.6 billion go very, very far. >> the president's decision to sign the bill did not go well with some members of his own party and he was mocked by coulter. i will never sign a bora kill l this again because yeah, you will be impeached. shall we say a rocky week for the white house. with we saw him announced his third national security adviser and
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attacking robert mueller by name. he congratulated putin on winning the rigged election. the president is facing mountain legal challenges from karen mcdougal and porn star stormy daniels before leaving for mar-a-lago, the president was e reminded of miss danielles' upcoming 60-minute interview. it may be hard to believe that breaking news we covered is the firing of andrew mccabe. tonight he's speaking out. he says he learned of his dismissal from a friend who saw the news on television. the next day i woke to find the president of the united states celebrating my punishment. andrew mccabe, fired. a great day for the hardworking
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men and women of the fbi. a great day for democracy. i was sad but not surprised to see such unhinged public attacks on me would continue into my life and after my service to the fbi. let's get to our lead-off panels on this friday night, featuring two of the very pillars upon which the newspaper of mrs. graham and bradley currently rest. ashley parker, white house reporter and phillip rucker, we are also so happy to welcome you to our broadcast, one of the best known and widely read journalist, washington bureau chief from usa today, susan, we begin with you. is today a rising confidence? >> both. we see the president trusting his instincts and getting rid of people who tell him you cannot
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do that or should not and signature rounding himself with this legal team, his economic team and his national security team who'll say exactly right, trust your gut, do what you think is the right thing to do and live with the kwercconseque. >> does this match the reporting that the president is finding himself comfortable with the con figure of the job that he's plainly happier and subsection of that question, what about the staff and what about the folks who work for him. >> there is an in verse correlation. as the president is finding himself more comfortable and his staff is finding himself less comfortable. the president is embolden more and doing what he wants. this is a president that's going to do what he wanted. the truth is the staff just does not know what's going on. for instance, when the president announced the bill ceremony, an hour or so before, the staff did not know the president coming do
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unthere to tear the bill. so there is no real sense of where this president is going to go and he sort of making decisions and policies and hiring and firing and they are scrambling to react to it. >> and you think of the tableau today of his tiny signing desk was there. it was standing by. we did not get the big sur and we did not get the moment where he shows it to the class after he signs it. we did fnot get to see him sign it. think about what he did not get. we have a graphic of all the things dear to him that he ran on many of them, that he did not get in this. sanctuary cities and no thousands or no cuts to planned parenthood and no cuts to epa and the schumer tunnel project. new russia sanctions so is this
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kind of a welcome to washington. is this how this stuff works? >> it sure is. donald trump views the world through winning and losing. there is no way to look at this bill to conclude that he has won big. it is not nearly enough to construct the things at the mexican border and he wants to be able to do that. he wants to cut ribbons and achievements that he can run on. but, he does not have them here today and he's increasingly under seized politically and legally and personally in his own life. >> what phillip just mentioned, susan, apart of this is tougher to discuss because at the end of the day, this is a family. we watch them go to mar-a-lago today and coming up in "60-minute." the president is supposed to land a few minutes before the interview air in washington. mrs. trump is staying behind in mar-a-lago for a pre-planned
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spring break, she's going to be down there for the week. most people regard the russia crisis as being the threat of the administration. some believe this to be just bad, the starting with these three women and certainly an enormous distraction. >> well, i this i history indicate that is the legal action why these three women especially stormy daniels could be to his presidency. if you look at bill clinton there would be some evidence on that. we have these three women making very -- allegations of the president of the united states, that does not seem to be cutting much with his reputation. it seem to be does not make the people not like him as much or everyone evangelicals or tonight he's trying to reinstitute the
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transgender ban and not talking about these ugly allegations, these allegations of such personal misconduct by the president. that i think is a sign of our times and maybe we should take a moment to just consider that we are at a place over these scandalous things could be going around the president and not having much effect of his reputation in the country. >> he's not silent about much. but he's been silent about this. >> he has. and this is in part because his white house and advisers have urged him to be silent about this. that's largely allowed them to when ever this question comes up to say the president has blanket denied all these allegations and we are not going to get into it. i will say the president's advisers on the russia probe told him to stay silent on that. that's the case up until recently when he attacked robert mueller and went after mccabe,
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there is some concerns in the white house of this newly unchained unleashed president may not stay silent much longer especially if he watches that interview with stormy daniels as we know he will and hear from friends that does not like the coverage. >> so phil, he's many mar-a-lago right now. what could go wrong? >> a lot could go wrong in mar-a-lago. we see it every time he goes to ma mar-a-lago. this is his oasis, it is where he surrounds at club members and friends that he has to get them buck him up and cheer him up. he separated from some of the people who work in the west wing whose jobs are trying to enforce that order and discipline and trying to pull him in one direction. at mar-a-lago, he's a free spirit and we see it time and again in these weekends where
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he'll tweet up a storm on a saturday morning or sunday morning making announcements. i fully expect that we'll see it this weekend as the march takes shape here in washington. >> susan, we have some polling numbers that a lot of people will find striking and it speaks to tomorrow's gathering. 19% in a poll commission by your news paper saying they don't feel safe at school. 25% believe a classmate will bring a gun to school. can you believe that's where we are in the country? 15% likely there will be a shooting at their school. half a million voices out behind us. >> amazing. a third of the kids we interview, 13 years old to 24 years old, a third of them said they'll participate. that would be the biggest mass
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protest that we have seen in this country and not all of them may show up. this is extraordinary. here is one more statistic. 80% of the middle school or high school students that we interviewed say that their parents sat them down and had a conversation of what they do if they face an active shooter at their school. >> welcome to 2018. the united states. i know it is late and friday night. i thank you extra especially, we got some form of work to do to c cover this event. susan paige, and phillips rucker. thank you. >> more reporting from the washington post today reveals new details on the trump campaigns contact with russia and later on trump's notion that he could be his own chief of staff, we'll ask our favorite questions around this part, what
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welcome back. new reporting today gives us new insight of the trump campaign encouraged former trump's adviser, george papadopoulos to reach out to foreign government most importantly including russia. e-mails turned over to investigators showing papadopoulos had more contract with officials than publicly po.
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when the agency reached out to popula populo papadopoulos to request the interview -- you should do it communication director urging papadopoulos. according to the post, papadopoul papadopoul papadopoulos corresponding with flynn. the president said this about it back in october. few people knew the young low level volunteer named george who had already proven to be a liar. papadopoulos pleaded guilty as apart of a deal and lying to the fbi and has been cooperating with the special counsel. it is an important conversation to have. we'll have it here tonight.
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our own carol lee and our friend paul butler, our former pr prosecutor and a professor at georgetown. tom, i keep on asking this question, how far are we from normal and how normal would it be for a russian to contact a campaign official for that official to seek approval and for a senior to say no, go ahead and do that. that's a good idea. >> brian. it seems as though we are far from normal at least in the experience that we have all had covering and observing other presidents and other administrations in the past. >> let me put it in a different way. all the people's efforts on the trump's side diminished george papadopoulos, it appears in some day and from your reporting that where mueller looks at it, he could be more of a whale in terms of his importance and
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where he could lead investigators. >> when this young 30-year-old papadopoulos aid to donald trump, when he was first indicted, it was confirmed that he was cooperating with special prosecutor mueller and the president and his aids and former aids said this guy is a nobody. he does not know anything. >> coffee boy. >> coffee boy was one of the phrases. the e-mails we were able to look at part of this cash of 20,000 or more that's turned into investigators suggested that he was quite a bit more than a coffee boy. he was arranging appointments with foreign leaders specifically with president trump and the president of egypt. he was making contact with russians and folks who had contact with foreign ministry and suggesting with donald trump
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that a meeting with vladimir putin may be possible. >> it is the last thing that i ask you to do, does the phrase freelancing fit, what we know of his role during the campaign? >> there are two ways after he was indicted and it was revealed that he was cooperating with the special counsel. he was very low-level and the other was he was discouraged from this outreach to foreign government and officials. indeed the e-mails and there are vast numbers of them. show show that there were times when papadopoulos was discouraged. what we found in this new cash that we were looking at for the first time provided to us or described to us is that in fact, he sought permission in some cases from the campaign and received a go ahead, a green light to go ahead to speak, for example, of the possibility of stronger or warmer relations
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with russia under a president trump. >> just for the benefit of the folks watching tonight, put a period at the end of this. if you have seen it or if it has been described to you, muller already has not. >> we would think that the documents that we are looking at, these are e-mails that would have been sent back and forth in as we describe in tonight's story that i did with my colleague at the post. these were e-mails that george papadopoulos wrote to the campaign. it would have been received by the campaign east's server. i understand those e-mail haves be have been turned over to. >> you told one of our producers this could speak to collusion and obstruction in our view, why? >> if you reach out to the russians to try to help them elect american president, that's
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unpatriotic and un-american but it is not a crime. we know that george papadopoulos has already pled guilty to lying about his contact with the russians. the question is who directed him to lie. why is he lying? what else do we know? we know president trump twreeee out a lie of papadopoulos' role. he was not a coffee boy. he was meeting with steve bannon and flynn. this is another example of the president creating this false narrative that makes the special counsel mueller a thing of obstruction of justice and makes it, why is the president trying to cover up something if it is all innocent. >> karen, you had to cover this. a lot of activities, digenova is in but not signed. it is kind of spring training
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and dowd is out and there are some mixtures of personalities here that don't make a whole lot of sense on paper. what is the state as of tonight? >> what we believe is that they are still sorting it out. we may see a subtraction from the team or additions to the team. there is questions if whether digenova will bring is wife on and obviously there is conflict of interest because they represent witnesses of the investigation and there is reported of waivers so they're able to take on donald trump as a client if they want to. it is also a little bit influx and they say it will be finalized in the coming days. everything in cable reaches full circle. victoria and digenova have been guests on this network going back years and years. when carol mentioned
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digenova'ses wifdigenova's, you were nodding your head. >> the person that they represent now is a witness against donald trump. he's talking or cooperating with mueller so mueller, the lawyers cannot at the same time represent someone who may be out to get or who has in criminating information against the president and at the same time representing the president. even if these lawyers are able to persuade their clients into waiving, a judge is not going to allow that. again, it is a textbook example of conflicts. >> the president just shot from the hips on this. this is work that's normally done and settled before you would announce that you would bring somebody on your legal
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team typically something as this consequen this -- >> what are you looking for next week? >> i feel that evidence is a week and we have no idea where it is going. what will be interesting is to see how the in coming national security adviser starts to build a team in the west wing and how those relationships start to go particularly with secretary mattis over at the pentagon. >> two veteran reporters, our thanks on a friday night. thank you, as i said to all of you, i know it is late on a friday. carol lee, paul butler and tom hamburger. >> coming up. it is one of the few things every president in the modern era had in common. they all had a chief of staff. does this president believe he can do that job in addition to his day job? we'll talk about that when we come back. mercedes-benz glc... ...with its high-tech cameras and radar...
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announcing tariffs on china and continues staff changes. as the new york times wrote, "the decisions attested to a president riled up by cable news and increasingly unbound, mr. trump appeared heedless of his staff and determines to set himself of the agenda." the claim of donald trump being comfortable in his role may not be a sign of him growing into the job. the white house transforming into a board room. trump has news to close associates running the west wing has he did and serving as his own chief of staff. where have we heard of that before? the answer is steve bannon. we are fortunate to have us with
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here, author and presidential historians, michael besla. around when the chief of staff is to start, that is to say what president looked at the work flow and the pressure of the job and says this is way more than i can handle. >> the one we remember most is richard nixon. well, he wound up in prison. well, presidents really going back to fdr have had one person who really was first among equals. one of the amazing things in that nbc story that you mentioned, brian, was astounded to hear that donald trump has been talking to people and amusing on the fact that lbj and john kennedy were their own chiefs of staffs. that's absolutely crazy. john kennedy had a tough world war ii hero, who was a militant
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guard of the door and lyndon johnson had an ex-marine named martin watson which was tougher. those two presidents would be astounding to hear if they were acted as their own staff. >> can you imagine a functioning west wing where bannon has said five or six direct reports of losey-goosey style and a much more family business. >> chaotic. look at the summer of 1965 and johnson was making world shattering decisions about vietnam and civil rights and education and medicare and the great society, you cannot do that with a president deciding who's going to come into the oval office and especially these scenes we have heard about nearly trump's presidency when there was a weak chief of staff, reince priebus, these stories o f people flooding in and handing
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the president pieces of paper with news from sources and god knows where. >> there are two great stories in folklore of eisenhower, he famously handed a phone to someone when he became president of columbia of new york and said make a noise. it was a dial tone. he never had to dial for himself as commander. now, that's a job with a huge responsibility where he held that and took time off for academia. >> yes, he managed d-day invasion and ended very well. >> there was that. you did not see eisenhower who said i am so brilliant and i
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should be my chief of staff. kennedy was in the navy for 18 years and johnson for 32 years, they would never imagine saying that, my instincts are wonderful that i am going to follow my own i impulses and not having some guys to manage this. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. >> coming up a preview of the event tomorrow that brings us to the city tonight when "the 11th hour" continues. stood with me e in the middle of the night. hold on dad... liberty did what? yeah, liberty mutual 24-hour roadside assistance helped him to fix his flat so he could get home safely. my dad says our insurance doesn't have that. don't worry - i know what a lug wrench is, dad. is this a lug wrench? maybe? you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™. liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance. you or joints. something for your heart...
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my hair has not always been like this, he was practically in love with frank ocean and when frank dropped his album blond -- >> the rest is history. >> joakim. >> sometimes you have to do what frank ocean does. that was parkland student remembering his good friend that was killed at stoneman douglas high school. >> before sam joined us, he taken part at the white house with the president where he made a heartfelt argument that ar-15 are too easy to obtain. tomorrow sam will be joined by his classmate and other survivors as they lead the way in more ways than one in an
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enormous event that they brought about the march for their lives. crowd size is always hard to predict. the associate press puts it this way tonight organiz. organizers are ophoping to draw 5,000 protesters. that would match last year's women's march and make this one of the largest. >> with us, the father of sam's close friend, joakim who was lost in the shooting and as we mention, coach of the basketball team. welcome to you both. someone got accepted to college. i am happy to hear your news. >> manuel, you chosen to remember your son and everyone watching and joining me and offering our condolences. >> thank you. >> i am sorry you had to relive
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it. you chosen to remember your son in a unique way and we have pictures of your work i would like you to talk about. >> hang on. some where we are going to show your muriel. tell us about this. >> this is me being myself, okay? i am an artist. that's what i do for a living. >> after getting through this very difficult part of our lives, i found a way to express myself. also to give a voice to joakim talking. that's him talking through the art. i made a lot of paintings for my life but i never had to paint my son under this, it is nothing
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you see at all. it is impact full and i think and it is making people think of many things. >> it is i mpactful and shockin to look at. i feel bad of what i am painting, today i feel really good that we were able to send a message through art. >> and now we are going to make another one and another one and we'll paint as many walls as joaquin demands me to paint. it is good that i enjoy
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painting. >> you are the one that's born with the talent to do that. >> what does your school feels like and how is your life feeling like and what are your thoughts going into tomorrow? >> well, at school we don't feel safe and all in one day we had kids bringing in weapons and officers fell asleep guarding the building. they brought in a police watchtow watchtower, it feels like a prison. we don't feel safe. the clear backpack measure is unreal. the same weapon that was brought into school that day, you can fit in a backpack. we need way more than clear backpacks. that's not where our money should be going towards. >> has the president disappointed you and you are disappointed that he flew to florida and won't be here to
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hear the voices tomorrow. >> i guess it is one of the golf trippin tri trips. i am disappointed in him of the lack of effort he has made to fix it. i heard his new slogan will be keep america great again, what do has he done? i guess that's a rhetorical question for everyone to answer it. >> is he still saying it? >> that's his slogan for 2020. he tried it out a few days ago and perhaps we'll call it keep america great. manuel, you realize that tomorrow's march is an accusation that you have failed and i have failed and everyone our age and everyone's responsibilities and it is time for them to let them have a shot of this issue. they are the ones stepping up for this responsibilities saying this is intolerable.
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>> i am 100% and they are not the only ones. >> i can tell you i am with them and i am one of them. i may be older, way older but i am right there. that brings us back to joaquin's voice. what are parents doing right now? are they going to watch the march on tv? you cannot do that. so is it our fault that we don't march? we'll let them fix it? no. that's not the way it works. one of the reasons that i am here tonight in your show is that i am with not only my son's best friend but also someone that i trust as a leader, all right? but, i also support. i am not going -- lean over to
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his shoulder, go ahead and fix. >> we are leaning on you. in a way everyone will be tomorrow. you guys have looked at this thing is lead, follow or get out of the way. mostly tomorrow is about all three of those on your part. >> exactly. >> lead, follow, get out of the way. we as americans have been paying taxes out of my paychecks since i was 15-year-old. we are the employers. they are the employees. we are not asking for everyth g everything. in the words of my late best friend, we are demanding a change and those are the words that's said. we are demanding. >> on behalf of everyone watching tonight. thank you, it is great to see you. it is great to see you holding up, sir, it is an honor and i am sorry for your loss. >> thank you very much. our thanks, coming up as we await this historic event to take place here in the nation's
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us and we need to be heard. we need to actually see them taking our statements into consideration and to actually do something about it because we're not going away. >> and, yes, these students are incredible. and tomorrow, as we've said, half a million, thereabouts, expected to join the students from parkland, florida as they march to demand an end to gun violence. this network will be on the air with day-long live coverage from here in washington. i'll be with you during the
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hours of noon to 3 p.m. eastern time. and then 50 years after the assassination of the reverend dr. martin luther king jr., a new documentary "hope and fury" explores how social movements and the news immediate kmedia h influenced each other from the civil rights movement through today. >> here's a sneak preview. >> you are good's children. we're not going to let anyone turn us around. >> one of the reasons why martin luther king was so successful was he understood television. we deliberately had demonstrations before 12:00 in order to get the film to new york. >> they had to leave by 1. >> we cannot in good conscience obey such an injunction. >> dr. king and their staff were very, very savvy. they knew exactly what was going
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on. >> you want me to just make a statement and you don't want the interview? >> you got it. >> and they strategized how they could use their coverage to their advantage. >> we must be willing to fill up the jails all over the state of georgia. >> there's nobody that could make an hour-long speech any better than him, but for the 6:00 news, you had to get your message across. it had to be 30 seconds or less. >> the time is always right to do right and we cannot wait. we cannot continue to accept these conditions of oppression. >> king would dramatize and force the media to deal with the issue. i've got to grab your attention without losing your interest and respect, and king mastered that. >> it's a brand new documentary, it airs tomorrow evening, 8 p.m., 7 central on your local
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adviser 14 months and his lead lawyer on the russia investigation. it was the week he mentioned mueller by name on social media, something his lawyers had warned him not to do. among other things, he called the russia investigation, quote, a total witch hunt with massive conflicts of interest. yesterday he got into it with joe biden, who to be fair has said more than once he'd like to fight the president, take him out back sort of thing. the president channelled ali a little bit when he said the former veep, quote, would go down fast and hard crying all the way. then today trump surprised both republicans and democrats by threatening on twitter to veto that huge congressional spending bill before signing it hours later. it was a lot. and among the more indelible and difficult-to-explain moments, the president congratulating putin on his victory in a sham election. >> i had a call with president putin and congratulated him on
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the victory, his electoral victory. >> politics is nasty. i used to say the toughest people are real estate developers in new york city. and now i say you guys are babies. >> mr. president, would you still like to testify before special counsel robert mueller, sir? >> i would like to. >> i may ask marilyn lockheed, the leading woman's business executive in this country according to many. the word that i want to use is reciprocal. the word is reciprocal. that's the word i want everyone to remember. we want reciprocal. i say to congress i will never sign another bill like this again. i'm not going to do it again. nobody read it. >> what advice would you give to the 25-year-old donald trump
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knowing what you know tonight? >> don't run for president. >> i'll see you from noon until 3 p.m. eastern time tomorrow. thank you so very much for being with us. have a good weekend and good night from nbc news here in washington. this is one of those fridays when not only is today the capstone to what has been a sort of insane week of news, but you can count on the fact that it's not over. this is not the kind of week that ends on friday night. can you count on the fact that there's going to be a lot of news over this upcoming weekend as well. we shall not rest! so, it's not over. particularly good to have you with us tonight. there's a lot going on. we use the word bravery when someone is


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