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country and his community and keeping us safe is what we salute today. if you have a monumental american, tweet us @velshiruhle. thank you for watching this hour. i'm kris jansing in for ali velshi and stephanie ruhle. right now, "andrea mitchell reports." >> hi there, kris jansing. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," storm warning. stormy daniels telling her story but not all, claiming she was threatened by an unknown man in las vegas but not providing proof of her alleged relationship with donald trump. >> the president watches "60 minutes." if he's watching tonight, what would you say to him? >> he knows i'm telling the truth. >> isn't this the moment she should come forward and put up or shut up? >> put up or shut up? she sat down with a major journalist and answered some very tough questions. we're not going to play our hand right now, and the reason is because we have a case to win. expelled. the trump administration kicking out 60 russian diplomats allegedly working as spies.
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a show of solidarity with great britain after that nerve agent attack in london. speaking in parliament moments ago, britain's prime minister thanking more than a dozen countries who also expelled russian diplomats today. >> and together we have sent a message that we will not tolerate russia's continued attempts to undermine our values. and get up, stand up. students leave hundreds of thousands around the country and more around the world calling for gun laws. will they be able to translate that into votes on election day? >> welcome to the revolution. >> i have a dream that enough is enough. and that this should be a gun-free world, period. >> i represent the african-american women who are victims of gun violence, who are simply statistics instead of vibrant, beautiful girls full of potential. >> fight for your lives before it's someone else's job.
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good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington where president trump and the white house are remaining silent about stormy daniels. >> i was in a parking lot going to a fitness class with my infant daughter. the seat is facing backwards in the backseat, diaper bag, getting all the stuff out, and a guy walked up on me and said to me, leave trump alone, forget the story. then he leaned around and looked at my daughter and said, a beautiful little girl, it would be a shame if something happened to her mom. then he was gone. >> you took it as a direct threat? >> absolutely. i was rattled. i remember going into the workout class, and my hands were shaking so much, i was afraid was going to drop her. >> did you ever see the person again? >> no. but i -- if i did, i would know it right away.
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>> did you go to the police? >> no. >> why? >> because i was scared. >> michael cohen, the trump attorney, has admitted to facilitating a $130,000 payment but denies any involvement with the alleged threatening of daniels through his legal representation. this morning, daniels' attorney took the fight directly to cohen and the president in a media blitz across morning television. >> she sat down with a major journalist and answered some very tough questions. where's mr. cohen? is he coming on after me? i don't think so. where's president trump? is he going to come on after he? what i will say is she was prepared to discuss intimate details relating to mr. trump. she can describe his genitalia. she can describe various conversations that they had that leave no doubt as to whether this woman is telling the truth. if she's not telling the truth, let the president take to the podium and call her a liar. let the president come forward and say it never happened.
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>> joining me now, nbc white house correspondent kristen welker, msnbc political analyst robert costa, national political reporter at "the washington post," and of course mod rerato of "washington week," and ruth marcus, and boston herald chief washington reporter kimberly adkins. kristen, first to you. obviously a tumultuous day. the president still silent, at least specifically about stormy daniels. >> reporter: that's right. he put out a tweet earlier today, andrea, saying simply, so much fake news, and he has been tweeting about the economy. you see there, but through it all our country is doing great. so it was sort of a broad statement amidst all of these headlines. we're going to hear from the deputy press secretary later today. that will be the first official white house response to the stormy daniels interview. look, the white house has continued to insist that the allegations are false.
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they're undoubtedly bracing for tough questions again today. the question a lot of people have, did the president watch, did the first lady watch? no indication about that, but i can tell you that the first lady's spokesperson telling my colleague peter alexander when asked if the first lady has any reaction, she's focused on being a mom and is quite enjoying spring break at mar-a-lago while working on future projects. we know that the first lady is at mar-a-lago with her son while all of this is unfolding. so again, andrea, we are anticipating that we'll get the first real official reaction during the briefing today. >> and there was also, as you know, another tweet from stephanie grisham, the spokesperson for the first lady, where she said i know the media is enjoying speculation and salacious gossip. i'd like to remind people there's a minor child whose name should be kept out of news stories if at all possible. obviously this has been very difficult for the first family. there's some speculation, in fact, the president's reaction
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to this as compared to other things where he's spoken out and been very aggressive is affected, colored by, you know, how it's affecting the family at home. robert costa, when you talk to people inside the white house, how important is this in terms of the way the president and the white house are reacting? >> it's something that the white house has struggled with in the sense that during the campaign and even now inside the white house, it's been more of a private conversation he's had with confidants, friends, talking again with michael cohen, his long-time attorney, over the weekend. the white house officially has not been in bunker mode when it comes to stormy daniels and this controversy. of course, they're aware of it. they're preparing for the press briefing today. at the same time, it's because it's so personal, these allegations, it's not a normal political crisis. >> and ruth marcus, let's answer the question as to why this is
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more than just a tawdry personal tabloid kind of story. i'm raising the question myself. what are the implications, the potential legal implications of intimidation, of the nondisclosure agreement? because the voters seem to have discounted after the "access hollywood" tape that, yes, the president was a womanizer and there were a lot of women accusing him, and it so far has not visibly had an impact on him. >> sure. and let's make a distinction between the stormy daniels story, the karen mcdougal story, which are stories of consensual affairs. i think their renditions of having had this consensual relationship with the president are a lot more convincing than his denials either directly or through spokespeople. so that's different than assaulting women or sexually harassing women, which we'll see. and actually, the woman who may
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end up causing the most damage to president trump on that is summer zervos, who has sued him for defamation after he said that he did not sexually assault her and called her a liar. but here's why even these stories matter. because we don't know, and especially with stormy daniels, this is a subject that didn't come up last night, which is where did the money come from. the subject that did come up last night was, was it an illegal, improper, indisclosed campaign contribution? as with watergate, following the money is just as important here. that wasn't a sex story. this is. but that's where the real potential for harm to the president lies. where did this money come from, and should it have been disclosed. >> and kimberly, we now how toothless the fec has been and how long their investigations
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are and how rarely they actually impose anything beyond minor penalties. you're an attorney. how big is the legal exposure, even if it is established this was an illegal contribution in kind? >> the fec has been so politically divided in itself. it's been rather feckless in terms of its enforcement of this, and it could take a long time for a complaint, even if it is made, to work its way through that. i think the potential legal problems go far beyond the fec. it has to do with the mueller investigation. if robert mueller and his team find that michael cohen or donald trump have made statements that are inaccurate, maybe covered 134ithings up, an maybe that was the reason they were trying to force this nondisclosure agreement, all these things come into play.
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it's going to be a part of this investigation if there is something that is not right there, robert mueller and his team can find it. the potential legal problems go far beyond the fec violation. >> i know "60 minutes," in that second segment last night, made the case there could be some mueller involvement. i have to raise some skepticism about it. i'm not sure that he -- given how much he's under fire from all sides politically, whether he would want to even delve into this, whether he feels he needs to. robert costa, i don't know if you have any take on whether the people inside the white house are concerned about mueller as well on this score. >> it's hard to say what exactly the mueller investigation has in overlap here, if there is an overlap. what wie do know based on our reports is the mueller investigation is looking at michael cohen in some respects, just his involvement. when we speak to witnesses, we've reported that witnesses
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have been asked about michael cohen and his activities during the campaign. whether that means they're moving forward in that direction, with mueller you never really want to speculate too much because it's so hard to say where it's going. >> kimberly, that would be your point, that michael cohen is a figure in that investigation. if there is some way to pressure him, to get him to be cooperative with this issue, that could be more leverage. >> absolutely. michael cohen is also someone who's been around the president for a long time and would have a lot of information about just about everything that was going on with him, including this. so yeah, exerting some pressure there in order to keep him in the loop and help him encourage him to cooperate if there's something else that they can gain. you negotiation bob is absolutely right. we don't know what robert mueller is doing, but it's a potential that can make this bigger than just a tabloid story or just a campaign finance violation. >> kristen welker, how much is this playing into the turmoil on the president's legal team where he doesn't have a whole team now
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of personal lawyers to deal with this as well as the mueller probe? >> well, look, there's no doubt there has been turmoil, andrea. we saw this over the weekend. remember, there had been that announcement. all systems were a go. john dowd, who had been the lead attorney, announced his resignation. then of course we learned yesterday that joe digeneva is not going to be joining the legal team. we tried to drill down on who specifically might come in. we know the legal team does want to beef up. ty cobb specifically focused on the russia probe. important to point that out. of course, the philosophy has been let's be transparent, let's hand over as many documents as possible, and we know that there are very sensitive conversations going on behind the scenes right now about a potential interview with the president. so right now, that's really
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where the focus is, andrea. and again, on beefing up the legal team, how quickly is that going to be done, i've been told this is something they're looking to do in the coming weeks. but this was a setback over the weekend. >> robert costa, at this stage, what's the status of david shulkin, john kelly, other changes to come. >> there are certainly changes to come. in my conversations with sources over the weekend, they say the president was down in florida, thinking through a reshuffle of his cabinet. shulkin is someone he's certainly looking at. the timeline remains tbd. the white house is not giving any signal about when any potential change could come. i'm also told by one person close to the president that he likes to see people twist in the wind a little bit, whether it's shulkin or secretary carson at hud, as they deal with their own scandals over spending and their budgets at their departments.
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>> look at the way he treated rex tillerson for many, many months. thanks to all. and to continue on this front, the wild, wild west wing. president trump preparing to tell more cabinet members you're fired. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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new reports today that president trump is ready to make even more changes to his cabinet. "the washington post" reporting that over the weekend, the president was telling friends at
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mar-a-lago that veterans affairs secretary david shulkin will be the next to go, but when? the ceo of news max spoke to the president saturday. >> he did say that he's expecting to make one or two major changes to his government very soon, and that's going to be it. now, other white house sources, not the president, tell me the veterans affairs secretary, david shulkin, is likely to depart the cabinet very soon. >> this morning, however, the white house said the president has confidence in david shulkin at this point in time. how long will that last? joining me now on a lot of subjects, ted olson, the former solicitor general during the george w. bush administration. we want to talk to you about your brief before the supreme court. a fascinating terror case. i want to ask you, from your experience in government, we have seen government by twitter, we've seen the secretary of state being notified of his official firing on twitter, the cabinet shake-up, bringing in
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john bolton. how does this affect the way the government handles top prioritie priorities? the turnover has been unprecedented. >> i think everybody would agree this is turmoil, chaos, confusion. it's not good for anything. we always believe that there should be an orderly process, and of course government is not clean or orderly ever, but this seems to be beyond normal. >> you worked with john bolton. >> i have had some contact with him in the past in various administrations, but not very much. >> do you have any thoughts about the criticism of his temperament or ability to reconcile disparate points of view, work with pompeo? >> i don't have enough of a personal opinion to share that with you. >> i want to ask you about your case. the unusual situation here -- and you filed a brief with the supreme court. they'll have a conference, as you've just explained to me, on
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thursday and decide whether to take this case. this is a case involving the ability of american citizens to get money that a lower court has awarded them from the plo involving a terror incident. so the solicitor general of the united states of the trump administration is in the unusual position of taking the side of the plo before the supreme court against american nationals. how do we reconcile that? >> we're very, very disappointed. we represent americans who are injured or families whose family members were killed in terrorist attacks in israel. there's a statute that was passed by the united states congress without dissent, signed by the president, to give americans the right to sue terrorists in united states courts if they're injured in international acts of terrorism. they sued -- my clients sued, 11 families. they recovered a judgment of $211 million, which was tripled
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to $600 million. a federal court after appeals overturned that and said the plo and the palestinian authority are entitled to due process under the united states constitution, and they couldn't be sued under these circumstances. we've asked the supreme court to reverse that. the supreme court asked the solicitor general, should we take it or not. we were surprised, stunned actually, the solicitor general said, no, leave it alone. >> let me backtrack for a second. the law was passed and signed into law under president obama? >> in 1992, that's correct. >> oh, not under president obama. i'm sorry. >> his predecessor. but it was passed in both houses of congress without a single dissent. >> and what communication have you had with the solicitor general, with this administration for why it would side with the plo against the people who were awarded this verdict? >> we asked the solicitor general, please support us and defend the statute that was passed by congress.
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that is usually the responsibility of the solicitor general. if congress passes a statute and a federal appeals court overturns that statute or says that it won't apply in the way it's supposed to have applied, the way congress intended, then usually the solicitor general will defend that statute in the supreme court. we weren't given any explanation other than a brief they filed, which said this is not an appropriate vehicle for the supreme court to consider the situation. >> and many people may not know that you lost your first wife in 9/11 because she was on one of the planes. >> yes. >> and is that why this issue is so personal to you? >> well, i've represented in the past victims of terrorism. i think that everyone feels the same way. we have a brief that was filed in our support by the entire house of representatives. we have a brief by 23 senatorss, including ted cruz, elizabeth warren, charles grassley, all across the spectrum. everyone feels that this is a
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way to combat terrorism, by allowing victims of terrorism to sue for their damages in american courts. and of course, i think all of us sympathize with that. we're simply asking the supreme court to make sure that the statute that was passed by congress to deal with this situation will be applied the way it was intended to be applied. >> one other issue for you, which is the transgender people in the military. you famously paired with david boise, who lost the bush/gore case to you in the supreme court in 2011. but you paired with him on overturning the ban on gay marriage. does the transgender issue rise to the level of something you personally care about? >> i do. i feel very, very strongly that transgender persons in the united states are citizens. they're entitled to respect. they're entitled to their
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dignity. they should be treated equally with the rest of us. and it's unfortunate where -- when they're in a situation where they're trying to serve in the military to defend us, and they're discriminated against. they're victims of discrimination because of who they are. i think that's very sad. and i hope it'll be changed. >> i know your name was in the news as having been at least sought or considered -- and i know you can't discuss your conversations about the legal representation of the president, but do you think he does need more representation than he has right now, personal recommendation? >> well, i'm not going to speculate about what he needs or doesn't. >> okay. ted olson, as always. and our memory of barbara olson is such a vibrant, extraordinary person. >> thank you, andrea. >> i know that's a continuing hole in your heart. >> you're very kind. thank you. and coming up, return to russia. the white house lining up with european allies, announcing that they will expel dozens of russian diplomats from the u.s. how will the kremlin respond?
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ever taken by the u.s. against russian diplomats in this country, expelling 60 russians working in washington and at the u.n. in retaliation for the russian attack on a former russian spy and his daughter living in salisbury, england. what's so striking here is the contrast to the president's p praise of vladimir putin last tuesday, and his refusal to speak out against that nerve agent attempted assassination in that congratulatory call that he'd been warned against making. this move comes as 14 european union members say they'll also expel russian diplomats and limit russian travels. joining me now, jane harmon, former nine-term member of congress and house intelligence committee leader. welcome, both. jane, first to you. as someone who'd worked in intelligence and has been involved so deeply in intelligence, this is a very
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dramatic step. i'm not quite clear on how they talked the president into it given his, you know, going rogue against all advice and praising putin and not bringing this issue up with putin. >> well, a couple of points. kudos to theresa may, who's the former home secretary, the homeland security secretary of britain, who i think worked hard to persuade a coalition of countries -- we're the biggest contributor here, but there are 14 european union countries plus canada, to go along with this. second point is the evidence is a slam dunk, as we say in the intelligence community. there's no question that this nerve agent is only produced in russia. so there's no way to pretend or tweet that russia wasn't involved. >> and it's military grade, so it's only something that the kremlin itself, that vladimir putin would have to be aware of and had to have ordered. >> that's why it was just such a brazen act, and it makes you wonder why the escalation at this specific time and specific
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moment. but it is a great thing that america is standing with our allies on this and that we're supporting the uk as they are taking steps to counter this horrendous attack on their soil. >> as this is being done, we see turmoil on the national security team. you've got the precipitous ouster of mcmaster. it was long rumored they didn't get along, but he'd learned about it on twitter or learned about it in a phone call followed up by a tweet. so precipitously. the hiring of john bolton, which is controversial. elise, do you want to weigh in on this? i know you didn't work with him specifically, but he was at the state department and at the u.n. as a recess appointee because the republican senate refused to confirm him for u.n. ambassador. >> there was so much political capital wasted on the recess appointment. pushing forward with john bolton in that position. and in the end, john bolton
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actually, you know, kind of turned on president bush, so to speak. he wasn't that loyal to the bush administration, certainly, for pushing -- for staying behind him and supporting him. it's interesting that donald trump is choosing to go fully behind someone who most of his security positions, his ongoing support for the war in iraq just completely opposed to what donald trump purported to be for on the campaign trail. >> let me play for you all what tim kaine had to say about john bolton, because he doesn't have to be confirmed but needs an fbi clearance. >> reports surfaced right after he was named about a speech he gave in russia in 2013 at the request of a russian oligarch who's very close to vladimir putin. these kinds of contacts with foreign governments, especially in the words of general dunford,
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who's the head of the joint chiefs of staff, russia is the chief nation state adversary of the united states. these kinds of contacts raise real questions in my mind about whether he could get a full security clearance or not. >> jane, we know how casual this white house has been about security clearances, i.e. mike flynn, but after everything that's happened so far, don't they have to make sure that they are very careful about this? >> i would think so. donald trump can, i think, waive some of these requirements and certainly share very classified information with bolton if he chooses to, but i think the example that this would set would be catastrophic for them. what i also worry about, though, is the rumors are out that he's going to dismiss most of the staff that mcmaster built. just talking about russia, fiona hill is enormously capable. who comes next, or does anybody come next, to provide the depth of understanding in these countries that the coordinator of national security, which is
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this role, needs to have. >> and to say nothing of general mattis and how he could work with him, here's also a piece of tape. this is an nra pitch for gun purchases in russia. it's unclear whether this was done at the behest of the nra, but this is what bolton was on camera pitching. >> were the russian national government to grant a broader right to bear arms to its people, it would be creating a partnership with its citizens that would better allow for the protection of mothers, children, and families without in any way compromising the integrity of the russian state. that is my wish and my advice to your great people. >> and they were russian subtitles on that as well, elise, that you couldn't see with our banner there. this does raise questions about how he's going to work with not only pompeo, who is more in sync with him on iran certainly, perhaps not as much on north korea, but general mattis has
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different positions on a lot of these issues. >> well, john bolton is incredibly hawkish. without the concern for human rights and democracy promotion that comes with the neo-conservative world view. and you look at how that contrasts with secretary mattis, who is trying to, you know, encourage diplomacy, encourage negotiations with north korea. it is a pretty stark contrast, and perhaps the upside could be that john bolton provides donald trump with political cover for his express desire to have a summit with kim jong-un. >> and we should also quickly point out there are reports, which we have yet to confirm, from beijing and pyongyang, bloomberg news is reporting that kim jong-un is in china today. that would be his first foreign trip, and it would be a really important opportunity for the chinese, with whom we talk, to find out more about his intent. >> and i think the timing is
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you'll be bathing in savings! tripadvisor. check the latest reviews and lowest prices. will you have elected officials who feel that getting a few extra dollars from the nra is more important than the constituents, you have gun violence. and when you have a president that would rather constantly talk about and belittle chicago's violence rather than send funds and resources, you have gun violence. >> if they continue to ignore us to only pretend to listen, we will take action where it counts. we will take action every day in every way until they simply cannot ignore us anymore. >> i have lived in south l.a. my entire life and have lost many loved ones to gun violence. this is normal. normal to the point that i've learned to duck from bullets before i learn how to read.
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>> we will come together. we will get rid of these public servants that only serve the gun lobby. and we will save lives. you are those heroes. >> a powerful show of force here in the nation's capital and around the world. student leaders issuing a defiant message of never again with hopes of a political awakening in the face of senseless gun violence that has gripped our country. during an emotional appearance from emma gonzalez, the parkland student stood in silence, tears running down her cheeks, for more than four minutes, standing on stage a total of 6:20, the length of time it took for the shooter to carry out his deadly rampage. >> 6:20 with an ar-15, and my friend carmen would never complain to me about piano practice. aaron would never call kira miss sunshine. alex would never walk into school with his brother ryan.
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>> joining me now is democratic mayor of new orleans mitchell landrieu, author of "in the shadow of statues," which grew out of an extraordinary speech, mr. mayor, that you gave last may about monuments. thank you very much. i want to know how you believe this gun debate and this protest affects your city, the younger generation, and potentially the midterm elections. >> well, you know, out of the mouths of babes come truth. our children, they see the truth more clearly than adults do, and they tell the truth. that was a very powerful speech that young lady gave yesterday. it was incredible.
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in the book that i wrote, i actually have an entire chapter in it about violence, which is just an incredible plague across the united states of america. since 1980, we've had 630,000 people killed on the streets of america. that's more soldiers than have been killed in all the wars of the 20th and 21st century. it's extraordinary. we're in a moment now. you can love the constitution. you can support the second amendment and still be in favor of reasonable restrictions so that we protect our families and our children. and it's just an important moment that we in the country have to be called into, and i think these young adults are leading the way, and i'm very proud of them and want to continue to encourage them to speak truth to power as they have since the shooting and of course every day, as you know, somewhere between 50 to 100 people are killed on the streets of america. it's something we ought to deal with, and we ought to do it sooner rather than later. >> how does it translate into votes? there seems to be a majority opinion in favor of some reasonable gun restrictions, more than what was passed by congress, more than what the
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president has supported. yet, when it comes down to votes, it's not so much the money that the nra gives individual candidates, it's the mobilizing of single-issue voters. >> this is why people are frustrated with congress. an overwhelming majority of americans report simple gun responsibility legislation like background checks. yet you can't pass through congress. our number one responsibility is to keep the streets safe. but the number of guns out there, the kinds of guns that are being used are incredible. andrea, as the mayor, i have to attend funerals all the time of people who are killed with guns. the worst of which was 5-year-old brianna allen, who had her guts blown out by an ak-47. this is just extraordinary. we put police officers on the ground who are shot, citizens that are shot, citizens that shoot each other. it is really a plague that we have got to deal with. the united states of america ought to be leading this effort. we ought not to be trailing every other civilized nation in the world. unfortunately, we are. >> how do you think that this
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plays not into only 2018 but 2020? a lot of people are talking about you as one of the rising stars of the democratic party. a mayor, to my knowledge, has never been elected president of the united states. perhaps you want to change history. >> well, no, not really. you know, we get focused on something that's 3 1/2 years. what's happening now on the streets of america is mayors every day are dealing with this particular issue. and it is critically important. now, not all the time when people just start, you know, a movement does it -- is there a political consequence right after. we've been in this moment for a very, very long time. and on the issues of immigration, gun violence, discrimination, talking about to ted earlier about transgender individuals who are willing to sacrifice their lives for our nation and still being discriminated against. the overarching message from the book and all the things we're seeing is you have got to stop discriminating against people. you have to be open. you have to keep people safe. and you have to keep working hard. we're going to keep banging on this wall until the wall falls. and i think this movement that's
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now started with responsible gun ownership, trying to find a way to keep our folks safe, treating violence not just like a public safety issue but a public health issue, is an issue that's beginning to resonate. and of course, we have to get congress to respond and state legislatures as well that have the hands of mayors tied. >> as a southerner, a white southerner, as you write in "the shadow of statues," how can you and others from the south try to close the gap and stop these divisions of red and blue, north and south? >> first of all, it's not just in the south but across the country. we've had a very, very difficult time talking about race. we really don't know how to talk about it. we're uncomfortable about it. other countries have done a better job of trying to have a sense of reconciliation. and the reason that i gave the speech was not just about the statues. it was the attitude that helped put the monuments up. and of course, i tried to draw a distinction, a very careful one, between remembering our past and revering it. and stating very simply, something that should not be
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hard for us to say, which is that the civil war, the confederacy was on the wrong side of history. it was intended to destroy the country, not to unite it, and it was caught for the cause of preserving savory. it -- slavery. of course, now that we see in the moment that we're in that when we're dealing with other issues, whether it's immigrants, whether it's transgender, whoever it is, we have a closed society. we're turning away from each other rather than towards each other. when you begin to judge people based on race, creed, color, sexual orientation, a country or origin, that's antithetical to what american values are. this entire country is built on the idea that we treat people based on what they do, not who they are, not who they're related to, but based on what they do. that's essentially what we have gotten away from. we've got to get back to that, and i think the country is going to be better for it if we do. >> very important reminder. thank you so much.
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senator mark warner on the senate intelligence committee is now demanding answers from facebook ceo mark zuckerberg amid greg scrutiny over the relationship with cambridge analytica that stole personal information from millions of facebook users. let's get the inside story. jesse and nick, thank you for joining us. first of all, nick, what about-face book not acknowledging for days and days and then saying -- zuckerberg saying he'll send someone, maybe will go to see congress. congress, both parties, not happy about this. >> they have sent their lawyers to testify, their senior
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executives to testify but not their chief executives, their top people. the same question as russian use of facebook and fake news pages. the company starts by denying there's a problem. and then says it's a small problem. after mon and months, it's a big problem. they want facebook to come out of the gate and be honest. instead, what they did was try to sue the guardian against publishing the story originally. >> understanding this world very well from his private sector experience, there are very few people in congress who really understand the social media platforms. >> yeah, i think you're right. there are very few people who understand it, and that means there are very few people who have smart ideas about how we
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would begin. you saw that come up this week as well. the strategy is to begin by saying nothing is wrong or maybe something is wrong and much later address how wrong something really was. >> nick, there is an investigation. is this an investigation into whether facebook has violated their 2011 consent order, or is it some other aspect of this? do we know yet? >> i'm not sure we know all the details yet. it looks like they were looking at possible violations of the consent order, but they are revealing today a previously nonpublic investigation into facebook. as jesse pointed out the problem is regulators need to get smart about this stuff pretty fast. i think the ftc has had previous brushes with facebook and the
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and what they did is their entire business is selling it to advertisers. there's a conflict between what the public is worried about and what facebook does for a living. >> i think there's so much we don't know on this aspect. the british government is investigating. backing up my real concern is what we don't know about how other people are using facebook. facebook says it changed policies in 2014. we don't know if the developers have their data stored somewhere and may be using it for nefarious purposes. >> jesse and nick, thank you both very much.
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we begin with serious consequences. the u.s. announced it is expelling dozens of russian diplomats. in response to a russian spy being poisoned on british soil, will russia retaliate? adult film actress stormy daniels gives an interview about her relationship with donald trump. who is in jeopardy, the porn star or the president? and who is next to go? sources reportedly say president trump's veterans affair secretary may be why the latest white house doesn't inspire confidence. we start with the silent treatment from the president. what the ambassador calls and yet so far nothing from president trump himself. not even a tweetve


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