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here in new york. happy to have you here. happy monday. iceland is very, very small. aerial-wise in terms of land mass, iceland is the size of guatemala or south korea. the difference is nobody lives in iceland. like i said, south korea and iceland are roughly equivalent in terms of land area but in south korea, there are 51 million people there. guess how many people live in iceland, which is roughly the same size? on a land mass the same size as south korea with 51 million people, iceland has a grand total of 330,000 people. a third of 1 million. the whole population of iceland is considerably smaller than the population of the city of
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wichita in kansas. teeny teeny teeny tiny. so when you see this many people coming out to all do one thing in iceland, not only is that impressive, it means you're looking at a not insignificant proportion of the whole population that have country. and in this instance, what all these icelanders are out there doing is doing their special cheer for their soccer team. the world cup is about to start. world cup starts in june. the world cup is like the olympics, happens once every four years except unlike the olympics, not every country gets to send a team to the world cup. you have to qualify to get your country's soccer team into the world cup and that's very hard to do. for example, the united states men's team did not qualify to be in the world cup this year. but iceland did.
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iceland with a population of 330,000 people total. the head coach of the iceland men's national soccer team has a second job, he also works as a dentist. seriously, the whole country transforms itself into a cheerleading squad for the team because there are so few people in the country, everybody has to pitch in for everything. after knocking england out of the euro 2016 soccer competition in a match that turned the soccer world on its head, iceland went on to become the tiniest country to ever qualify for a spot in the world cup. they are very proud of that. and now tonight, we can report that even though the iceland team will be going to the world cup this year, nobody from iceland's government will go with them. no public officials will go to the world cup with the iceland men's team. and that's because the world cup this year is going to be held in
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russia and that's a problem as of today. iceland joined 20 something other countries in taking coordinated action against russia in retaliation for the nerve agent attack on a former russian spy on a park bench in the uk this month. the uk announced they were expelling diplomats in response to that asasstation attempt on their soil. today 16 other e.u. countries plus ukraine, plus canada, plus albania and norway and macedonia, plus the united states all announced the expulsion of russian diplomats and personnel from all those countries. not to mention iceland's shot at the world cup. the team will go but no public officials. what was announced today is the largest collective expulsion of russian officials from other countries ever and for those of us here in the united states, given what is going on
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with the investigation of the current president and his campaign and any potential links to russia, which did intervene, for us it's a big deal the united states is a country that decided to participate in the big coordinated action against russia. that was not at all a sure thing, right? we found out that britain was asking other countries to do this in solidarity with them because this attack happened on their soil. it was not a sure thing the united states would participate in something like that, so we'll have more on that coming up a little later on in the show including what we think we've been able to figure out about how this decision came about inside the u.s. government and the question of the involvement of the president specifically but this massive coordinated announcement, the show of international solidarity for what the uk believes russia did on their soil is a diplomatic coup by any measure. this is a very impressive court or coordinated ago.
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the diplomats and world leaders who put this together did an impressive thing. for most of the past few years, russia's international belligerent hasn't went up against resistance whether shutting down the flow of natural grass into ukraine and europe in the dead of winter. turning ukraine's power grid on and off at will, invading and seizing crimea and messing with our election, assassinating russians on foreign soil. they have been smashing the place up for awhile now but this coordinated diplomatic effort today was this unified single voice response from france, germany, poland, the czech republic, norway, macedonia, the united states, great britain among others because of something that russia did in great britain and that kind of international solidarity with britain and that sort of unified front, that's vladimir putin's
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least favorite thing in the world. and the fact that it came together on behalf of britain while britain is in the middle of trying to leave the european union, that is unexpected on a lot of different levels. and speaking of britain trying to leave the european union, all this cambridge analytica stuff that has been in the news recently, that just took another very serious turn on that very issue. whistle-blowers have come forward and produced a substantial stack of documentation about the vote that britain took. to leave the eu, the so-called brexit election when they voted to leave the eu. according to these whistle-blowers, they say these documents they obtained and handed over to the authorities from the leave campaign aside of the vote that wanted the uk to leave the eu, they say the leave campaign was illegally funded for that election and the illegal funding, they say, was shifted to companies related
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to cambridge analytica. that was the data firm for the trump campaign in our presidential election in 2016. that news about the leave campaign and these allegations, allegations of illegal funding, that news comes on the same day here in the united states the federal trade commission, the ftc confirmed they are starting a formal investigation into facebook based on facebook's relationship with cambridge analytica, and news comes at the time "the washington post" reports when they worked on various republican campaigns during the 2014 midterms for everyone from a congressional candidate in oregon to colorado republican religion -- legislative candidates, "the washington post" says cambridge assigned dozens of non-u.s. citizens to work on these campaigns and in addition to saying foreign citizens to
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republican candidates in 2014, "the post" also spoke with people who worked at cambridge analytica at the time who said it seemed pretty clear to them at that time that what they were doing in republican campaigns in 2014 appeared to be illegal. quote, two former cambridge analytica workers that spoke on the conditions of anonymity that violated laws said concerns about the legality of their work were a regular part of employee conversations after the 2014 vote. two former workers said employees worried the company was giving former employees potentially inaccurate immigration documents to provide upon entering the united states. the document showed they were not there to work but they had arrived for the purpose of advising republican campaigns. fake immigration documents. again, these allegations are about republican campaigns in
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the 2014 midterms so that's before cambridge analytica became the data operations of the donald trump for president campaign. there's been a lot of reporting and a lot of scandal around cambridge analytica in recent days but the pace these stories are coming out and the reaction in different jurisdictions, it's a lot. we'll have a little more ahead tonight and we'll have quite a lot more on that story in coming days. tonight we're about to be joined by a democratic member of congress who appears to have stumbled upon some i guess surprising news about white house senior advisor and presidential son-in-law jared kushner. one thing to know about jared kushner is that jared kushner has a very, very good lawyer. he's not himself a lawyer but, boy, did he pick a good one. he's one of those washington legends who turns up in high-profile cases involving very high-profile politicians on both sides of the isle with a common thread
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uniting them is they all seem to win. jared kushner is the guy on the left with senator bob menendez. his lawyer's name is abby lowell, top drawer washington lawyer. before that, mr. kushner was represented by jamie gorelick who was also the real deal top drawer. that high-powered very well respected top drawer legal representation is important in its own right for jared kushner particularly with new news discovered tonight. on a more human level, though, it's also just a striking contrast. with what's been going on with the president himself. as of this weekend it appears that the president has no serious legal representation with the russia scandal. the lead lawyer had been this man, john dowd. so for example that's who had been negotiating with robert mueller and his prosecutors
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about when and whether and how the president might end up being questioned by the special counsel and his team. and i know it feels like there's been a lot of chaotic lawyering and a strange cast of characters around the president when it comes to his legal defense but what has happened there and happened on that subject in the last week, which has resulted in the president no longer having really a russia legal defense, i got -- it's been nuts but what just happened in the past week is almost impossible to believe. we can now tell from the reporting that's happened over the weekend and into today that it appears what happened with john dowd is that the reason he quit, the reason the president's lead lawyer on the russia scandal submitted his resignation and walked out in the middle of the investigation is because the president announced that he was making an addition to his legal team. he said he was bringing on a guy he had seen on fox news, joseph digenova. whatever the president's reasons
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were for wanting to bring him on the team, we know it came at a very high cost. it caused his lead lawyer on the russia scandal to quit and walk out. maybe that kind of a risk, maybe that kind of a trade-off felt worth it at the time to the president but that was a bad calculation. because we now know that at the time the president took that risk and thereby watched his lead russia lawyer, watched john dowd walk out the door because of it, at the time the president hadn't even met joe digenova yet, this new guy he was bringing in. it cost the president so much to bring on this new guy and then when he finally met this new guy, turns out he didn't like him. thursday night joe digenova and his wife were finally invited to the white house to meet the president for the first time and the president didn't like them. according to politico.com, the couple looked disheveled
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which helped convince the president they weren't the right fit. "the new york times" was slightly more delicate with it saying once the president met them, the president quote did not believe he had personal chemistry with them. "the washington post" had the saddest, most unvarnished take on it. the president wanted digenova to be on his legal team even though he didn't know him because the president enjoyed his tv appearance, however, once he announced he hired him and brought him to the white house to meet him, quote, the president was less impressed with mr. digenova than he had been while watching him on television. you're kind of shorter than i thought. i don't even know if he's short. the president is not hiring joseph dooemg or his wife after all, but announces he was hiring them before he even bothered to meet them cost him the representation of his actual lead lawyer on the russia scandal, who has been representing him for months and
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coordinating that whole response and so now at this late date in the russia scandal, the president really doesn't have a lawyer. he has jay sekulow who goes on tv who is now reassuring reporters even though it looks like it's only him, there are lawyer that is work at his activist group who have been helping him out too but that's it. even in a best case scenario that we believe jay and friends are representing the president, that's it. that's who is handling legal representation for the president of the united states in the most serious national security scandal to loom over any american president. the talk show host guy. that's striking in its own right. it's astonishing when you add in the fact that other people in the trump administration have been able to get themselves real lawyers. the vice president, mike pence, has a russia lawyer. he has a real russia lawyer, a
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real lawyer named richard cullen. hope hicks recently resigned white house communications director not yet 30 years old has a real lawyer. robert trout is her lawyer. he is the real deal. reince priebus, steve bannon and don mcgahn for some reason who is still white house counsel is representing william burke as their russia lawyer. he's the real deal. jared kushner has got freaking abby lowell. if you had a friend as a public official who was facing real trouble, you would want abby bolatete to be your friend's lawyer. i don't know if you feel friendly towards jared kushner but that's the situation he's in with who his lawyer is and how much trouble it looks like he might be in. it appears that his sort of lawyering firepower is matching his legal liability. mr. kushner's legal exposure in the russia scandal and related matters started off deep but they have been getting deeper ever since. it was only last summer when we learned that six months into the
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new administration, jared kushner had already revised his financial disclosure forms 39 times and counting. like did he have any other job or was he just full time revising his forms? as the russia scandal is reverted out we learned mr. kushner was in a lot of secret meetings including the trump tower meeting during the campaign and his meeting during the transition with the head of a sanctioned russian bank. last may is when we learned that after one of his undisclosed conversations with the russian ambassador, the ambassador communicated back home to his superiors in moscow slightly befuddled by the request that jared kushner sought to create a secret secure method of communication between himself and the kremlin even going so far as to ask the ambassador if he could start communicating with the russian government using secure channels from inside russian diplomatic facilities.
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so to keep his kremlin communication secret, he was offering that he would go to the russian embassy to make his calls to the kremlin. and yeah, abby lowell is good but that's nuts. that's nuts. and now this year in 2018s thing have just gotten more and more serious. "the new yorker" reporting that jared kushner had been meeting alone outside diplomatic channels with multiple foreign leaders including repeatedly the ambassador to china and further irreporting that chinese officials were overheard talking about jared kushner bringing up his family's real estate business and its interests while talking policy with the chinese government as a white house official. then in february it was "the washington post" reporting that intelligence intercepts from at least four different countries showed foreign officials discussing ways to manipulate jared kushner in his white house role. including the opportunities they saw for leverage over him based on his family's real estate
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business and his family's real estate business' pursuit of foreign investment. that was a sort of landmark piece of reporting about jared kushner not just because of what we learned about how he's been comporting himself as a white house official, because that's where we learned kushner's difficulty getting a security clearance were coming from inside the house. they weren't just because the fbi or the justice department turned up something they were uncomfortable with. having to do with jared kushner. that reporting from "the washington post" in february is how we learned the white house itself was a little worried about jared kushner. they were seeing evidence about kushner's behavior as a white house official that caused other white house officials to kibosh his security clearance. h.r. mcmaster learned that jared kushner had contacts with foreign officials that he didn't coordinate through the national security counsel and didn't officially report them. the issue of foreign officials talking about their meetings with kushner and their
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perceptions of his vulnerabilities were raised in h.r. mcmaster's daily intelligence briefings. officials in the white house were concerned that kushner was naive and being tricked by foreign officials. the contact with certain government officials raised concerns inside the white house and became a reason he's been unable to obtain a permanent security clearance. so, it wasn't just some hang up at the fbi or him not being able to get the 39th version of his form straight. what the white house and the national security advisor observed about kushner's behavior in the white house was the problem. so he got that from "the washington post" in february. jared has problems based on what intelligence officials inside the white house have seen about his behavior since he's been inside the white house. that was "washington post" february 27th. the very next night, february 28th, "new york times" broke
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their own scoop. that two companies gave a half billion dhar -- dollars, billion with a "b," $500 million in loans to jared kushner's real estate company after they took meetings with jared. apollo global management gave $184 million after one of the top executives met with jared in the white house. similarly, citigroup forked over $325 million to jared's family company after an executive met with him in the white house. february 28th, that's in "the new york times." and then a funny thing happened. a democratic member of congress wrote to the office of government ethics to ask for an advisory opinion on any ethics issues that might emerge from that "the new york times" reporting. dear acting director, on february 28th "the new york times" reported senior advisor to the family businesses received over half a billion dollars in private loans from two financial companies shortly after their executives
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met with mr. kushner in the white house. i respectfully request you provide an advisory opinion on these matters and this member of congress lays out the concerns, raised in this article about jared kushner not being divested. from his active business entities' financial holdings. jared kushner having personally guaranteed loans to a private business while he's serving as a white house official. jared kushner meeting with potential investors and creditors in the business entities while in a position to do favors for them as a white house official. quote, do these actions by mr. kushner constitute a breach of his ethical obligations to the american people? thank you for your attention to this matter. i look forward to your response. sincerely, a democratic member of congress from the eighth district of illinois. he says i look forward to your response, does he really think he's going to get a response to
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this? he has. and it comes with a big surprise. the office of government ethics wrote back and broke some news. the office of government ethics wrote back laying out the serious ethical and potentially criminal matters that could be at stake with jared kushner's behavior as it pertains to the loans his family got but according to the office of government ethics, this matter of jared kushner's liabilities on this issue, it's already under investigation inside the white house. quote, i have discussed this matter with the white house counsel's office in order to ensure they have begun the process of ascertaining the facts necessary to determine whether any law or regulation has been violated. during that discussion, the white house informed me they have already begun this process. oh, really? so it was weird at the outset that the president hired his son-in-law to be a white house senior advisor.
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but now we know that since he's been in that role, other white house officials, not the president, have stripped jared kushner of his security clearance. they have actively got him under investigation for a half billion dollars that found its way to his family's real estate company after he took meetings with those in a position to direct those funds. how sustainable is this? it's been weird in an ongoing way the president's son-in-law has way better lawyers than the president does in the russia investigation. but with mr. kushner, at least, it seems clear his lawyers are very much earning their pay. we've got more on this news scoop and the member of congress who figured it out. that story is next. stay with us. time to bask... in low prices!
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the wheels of government and the wheels of government scandal frequently turn quietly and where you can't see them. now a letter from the office of government ethics has revealed the white house counsel's office is revealing whether jared kushner violated ethics rules when his company took hundreds of thousands of dollars in loans right after executives from two
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financial firms took white house meetings with jared kushner. on receiving that letter from the office of government ethics two democrats tonight wrote to the don mcgahn to try to get more information about what we've just learned is an ongoing ethics investigation into kushner's business dealings. they are asking for reams of documents and they're asking for them by april 10th. moving fast. joining us now is a congressman who is on the house oversight committee who appears to have uncovered this scandal. thank you for being here. >> i'm glad to be here. thank you so much. >> this is something i didn't know was going on until we saw this letter from the office of government ethics back to you. did you know what you were going to get when you kerr remembered the ethics office? >> no, we wrote it on march 1st and three weeks later on friday, late afternoon we receive the the response and it was a
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surprise and so now we're following up. >> when the government ethics office, part of the news they broke is that they said that the white house counsel's office is already looking into this matter as an ethics issue. the letter goes into some detail as to what ethical issues and criminal issues could be at stake here. >> correct. it talks about potential bribery laws being violated, ethical violations. basically the whole gist of it is, you know, a public official has to put national interests first, personal interests second and the whole question here with jared kushner is whether he reversed it and put his personal interest first at the expense of the public interest. >> do you -- i guess what is your reaction to learning the office of white house counsel is doing this investigation? i mean, on the one hand, it is remarkable that a senior white house official is undergoing this sort of ethics query while still serving in the white house after having been stripped of his security clearance. on the other hand, i don't know whether an investigation by don
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mcgahn is something that would keep me up at night. >> i'm from illinois. we have a strong sense of smell about corruption. definitely in this white house, you smell a lot of wrongdoing. don mcgahn has been a witness to a lot of this. we're very disappointed he hasn't investigated a lot of it up to this point. however, on this particular issue, it appears that an investigation is underway and, you know, let's see what happens. we demanded the information with regard to this investigation. confirmation is happening. we need to find out the facts to judge the conclusions of the investigation. >> you and i believe congressman cummings have written to don mcgahn seeking more information, any other republicans interested in joining the request for information here? >> turns out no. chairman gowdy has not participated so far. on a separate but related matter which you brought up before with regard to security clearances that too was an area where we were hoping that
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chairman gowdy would subpoena records related to kushner's application for security clearances, however, he didn't follow up on that either. at this point we're hoping for answers. i was very surprised there was a response to this letter. >> me, too. >> and that there is confirmation an investigation is underway. the house may very well flip in the next election. if the answers aren't going to be provided now, they will be sought later, as well. it's a question of when are they going to answer them? >> congressman raja krishnamoorthi, house oversight committee representing illinois's eighth district. thanks for coming in. >> thank you. much more to come tonight. stay with us. and plant food. together, they produce three times the harvest to enjoy... and of course, to share. this soil is fresh from the forest and patiently aged to guarantee more of what matters...
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hey, so some kids did some marching over the weekend. you might have heard about it. the demonstration organizers by the survivors of the mass shooting at marjory stoneman douglas high school in parkland, florida drew hundreds of thousands of people in washington d.c. this weekend. we seen two gigantic, gigantic days of protests since trump was sworn in as president. the gigantic women's marches the day after the inauguration and then the truly epic numbers that turned out this weekend. huge numbers in d.c. hundreds of thousands of people but also really big demonstrations in basically every other major city and lots of small cities and towns across the country. "the new york times" say there were parallel marches in every state and on every continent except antartica.
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but the marches were not the end of the story. organizers say they were staging grounds for what's coming up next. after this weekend they are planning a nationwide school walkout for april 20th. before that the students were calling for student initiated town halls in every single congressional district in the country on april 7th. they want every member of congress to hold a congressional town hall in their home district april 7th. the kids say if they can't get their member of congress to do it, they will ask their member of congress' opponent for the november election to do it instead. these kids are not going away. watch this space. >> when politicians send thoughts and prayers with no action, we say no more. and to those applications supported by the nra that allow the continued slaughter of our children and our future, i say get your resumes ready.
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when liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance. the president trump presidency is 14 months old and there are a couple legit books that weren't just written by a famous person, books that exceeded expectations and dominated the news cycle. the first was "fire and fury," michael wolff's book and the second one is "russian roulette" about russian interference in the election. there definitely will be more blockbuster books about prosecutor presidency. hillary clinton's memoir about the campaign "what happened" sold a gazillon copies, although you would expect that to do well given who she is and what she saw but there are two teeny tiny little books that marked this turn in politics in a very big way. they are small, specific, very
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powerful books. almost register like a long magazine article, one big thick idea rather than as a sort of treaty or like a long form book. the first one, people think it's controversial i'm saying this but the first one is this book on turnny by timothy snider. whether or not you talked to your friends about it, everybody you know has been reading and rereading over the course of this year. this is a sleeper best seller and again, a small work of terrifying power. but now we're about to get the second small, very specific, very powerful dart of a book that people will be carrying around in their backpacks and purses and bags for a long time. this new become is from the person who was the communications director from the campaign called "dear madam president: an open letter to the women that will run the world." it is a small book. it's a fearless little book. let me read you something.
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palmie palmieri writes, quote, it's election night around 10:00 p.m. i'm in a small suite. on the 10th floor of the peninsula hotel that's been set up as work space for the staff. my colleague huma abedin sat down next to me to ask me about the latest returns. what are you saying? i'm saying there is a very good chance donald trump will be the next president of the united states. huma nods. i recognize it. it's the same nod i gave when robbie mook, our campaign manager called me the night of caucus when we were predicted to win by as many as six points saying he thought we would win but it would be really, really, really close and maybe i should come to the headquarters and the same nod hillary gave ten days earlier when i woke the news that comey had re-opened the e-mail investigation and the same nod i gave when robbie pulled me aside just two hours earlier at the peninsula to say something was off in a few of the states. well something was off in almost all of the states. huma nods. the way we have throughout the campaign as we absorbed more bad news processed another mountain we'd have to climb, we're 22 points down in new hampshire.
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we'll lose the wisconsin primary by 22 points. her fbi interview will be on july 2nd. there's a really awful video of trump from at access hollywood." it looks like the transcripts of her wall street speeches are out there. i register huma's reaction to the news that we are likely to lose. her stoicism is remarkable but not surprising. huma nods because it is all she or i know on this campaign. we never permitted ourselves any other kind of reaction to bad news. you don't blanche. you don't panic. you show no emotion. i can handle this. i can handle anything. joining us for the interview is former director of communications for the clinton campaign and the author of "dear madam president." a letter to the women that will rule the world. congratulations. i did not expect this kind of book from you. >> really? i did intend to write something very different and i feel like i learned a lot on watching what happened to a woman on the
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campaign trail, and i felt like i learned a lot in two decades of politics, working at really high levels in a male dominated field and i didn't want to write a campaign book. i wanted to write a book for young women and girls that are coming up now to say this is what i lived through. these are the lessons. you're still going to face obstacles but these are the lessons i learned that will show you how you can succeed, even those those obstacles still do exist. >> you have a very striking diagnosis that you give very early on in the book and again, it's a short book. you get right to the point. this is a thick straight line. >> it's chock-full. >> yeah, but you basically say we ran hillary clinton for president and you say in our own mind you did not think that was going to be an insurmountable barrier. you thought having an african-american president elected would be a bigger barrier to leap through the barrier and you said when it came time to run her for president, you ran her as somebody that could be like a man president.
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you didn't run her to be a different kind of leader. >> right. we had -- i think -- it occurred to me one day we half facsimiles of the qualities we look for in a male president. its a gut punch and part of the reason i wrote the book, there is a fundamental flaw in our thinking because our thinking is still aligned about leadership is based on men and when you're running for president, there were no other options, there was no other model and i think that's what hillary's generation had to do. right? it's not just running for president. it's in each profession that the baby boomer women were in, they had to prove i can do this, i can do it just as good as a man and just the same as a man. i'm tough. i can prove i'm like him and now we see the unimaginable happened, right? donald trump is president. anything, so imagine what else is possible. i think now we can imagine how women can operate in a new way. it's like -- they spent, the
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world spent 500 years making politics and the workplace a comfortable place for men. right? i don't think people really process that. so it's not built with us in mind. so don't expect that the rules are going to fit for you. make your own rules. that's why the chapter you're reading about huma nodding, i call that chapter a nod less cry more. it's time for you to make the workplace work for you. it was created without you in mind. if you're moved to cry because you are frustrated or angry or you feel really passionate about what you're saying and even though you're at work, go ahead and do it. don't hold yourself back. these are the -- so it's those lessons that i learned during the campaign and what i learned in working with president obama was really empowering. i figured out a way to get over the impostor syndrome that a lot of women feel because the communications director for the president of the united states that's a scary deal, and you realize if you hold back, you're not doing your job. you realize if women hold themselves back as we often do, we don't want to speak up,
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unless we're called upon, you're not giving the world its due. you're not giving your best self, and that's how i learned to speak -- how i learned to -- ways that i learned to succeed even though we still find these obstacles or these downs. >> uh-huh. the first half of the book there is a lot of detail and sort of granular walking us through the revelation about how the campaign was going to end. >> right. >> the revelation of the loss and what it was like at a personal level and the exhaustion and the disbelief and the frustration and the upset that you describe things in a way as feeling other worldly in that moment. you say there was some polling at the end of the campaign internal to the clinton campaign that should have let you know things -- that there might be a problem. >> there was -- it was possible, right? and what i'm trying to get at is a sense of when something that
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you can't imagine would happen that is so devastating and i want people to know how devastating it was. it felt other worldly. i woke up on wednesday november 9th and felt like my phone wouldn't work because i was in a different universe. that's how much it impacted me. we had inklings that it was possible but one in three chance, one in four chance, but still, you know, at a gut level you felt like you were going to win. there was some karmic insurance we would win because it was so hard and it was so clear that she was the right -- >> i think that is president obama's confident assertions when he would get asked questions about trump and for a while he avoided answering questions and when eventually he would always end them assuring the country he's not going to be president. >> right. america isn't going to do this. america isn't going to elect him. and then it happened so what are we going to make of this and i think in the beginning women were pretty devastated and
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i certainly was and you saw something remarkable happen. women could decide either i'm going to decide it was right that he won and that's the kind of men that win in america or what that election proves is that we women are limping ourselves in the way we think about our own selves and i'm going to go and create new rules. these rules do not work. they are obsolete and out of date. and i think that's what hillary's candidacy ended up proving. >> ending up winning. >> if she had won, she could have easily won and if she would have won, we still would have had these challenges, but there is something very empower egg. at the march this weekend, we had yolanda king, mlk's granddaughter. she was fearless and joyful and like all little girls, she had so much confidence and then you think i watched her and thought at some point girls learn to be inhibited. that's a learned behavior. that is not natural. what is natural is how confident
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she was and how confident emma gonzalez and how proud emma gonzalez was to stand at the podium and cry. i don't want those girls to lose those qualities and that is -- that is women -- that is what women leadership looks like and that's women leading in a new way and that's the lessons i conveyed from my experiences for them, for young women, for girls then i hope for boys too. they need to understand what those obstacles are that women face. >> "dear madam president: an open letter to the women who will run the world." this is not a typical memoir but a dart. congratulations on doing this. i sat down and read it in one sitting and could not get up until i was done. >> thank you. much more to get to tonight. stay with us. your letting go thing. your sorry not sorry thing. your out with the old in with the new, onto bigger and better thing.
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here's a surprising update. a couple of weeks ago we reported that the rnc was throwing president trump a high dollar fund-raiser in beverly hills. we had the invitation. you could see from the invery situation that one of the hosts was a man named elliott brody. elliott brody invites you to an evening with donald trump. now we can tell you he did not show up for that event he invited you to. according to the "new york times" as scrutiny has mounted around mr. broidy, republican officials signaled he would be a distraction at a fund-raiser.
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after conversations with others, he volunteered not to attend. we should have known. we had noted at the time that it seemed nuts that the rnc was going to put the president in the same room with him right now given the clown car full of stories that have broken over him over the last few weeks. first there was the leaked proposal that he would earn $70 million to $80 million if the justice department decided to drop a corruption investigation into the malaysian government. then more leaked documents showing impushing the agenda of the united arab emirates. then it was documents showing elliott broidy pitching himself before the inauguration as somebody who could help russian countries get off the u.s. sanctions list for a fee to elliott broidy. just today ap records george nader that got broidy those
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last night's interview with stormy daniels on "60 minutes" on cbs had an audience of 22 million people. biggest audience for "60 minutes" in a decade. >> cross out the part in my script where i talk about the ratings last night. >> sorry. >> you know how much that hurt it is man in the white house. >> apparently he doesn't notice the scandal at all. he's never said anything about ms. daniels or the lawyer or anything. he's very busy, hasn't crossed his desk. >> it might not be a big enough news story to get donald trump's attention. >> he's a big picture kind of guy. >> you know who's not silent about this, my first guess michael avenatti.

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