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dictionary coming it a graef mistake. if you're using an android found you need to foe what the company is saying about your calls and text mnl messages. don't let this story go under your radar, a new added to the census of trump administration about citizenship. why this has one state suing. arguing this the compromise congress. that's under the radar but super important. we're starting the show with a quick update on that bomb scare on the base in d.c. the fbi racing to find whoever sent suspicious packaging to u military and intel post right here in washington. at least one with explosive materials. garrett hague following all the news this morning. i think a lot of people woke up to this news over night and
wondering what is going on. have they found this suspect yet? >> this is a fast moving investigation and they do have strong leads into what's not just the suspicious packet sent to that one base, suspicious packages sent to six different locations around d.c. over the last 24 hours. all of them with locations national security implications. all of these packages intercepted that facilities designed for this purpose, keep packages away from sense tifr sites like the white house. all of these packages were rendered safe, made sure they couldn't be harmful. all of them had thing in them that look like bomb components. we do no one lead that has been set aside, law enforcement officials say they don't think this has anything to do with the situation in austin over the the last couple of weeks. the investigation is continuing
as we speak. law enforcement officials are telling our clearlies pete williams that they do have strong leads at this point. we hope to know more soon. >> we'll bring it back if and when we get more. i want to head over to the white house where they're watching and waiting for russia to do something. nbc's peter allen there in the briefing roam. we heard already from the prime minister of russia talking about this in the last 60 minutes or so. new information come t out of nato as well. give tus latest. >> we heard from the russian ambassador saying it was a mistake this morning. let me read to you what he's saying in it weres of retaliation expected from rush. he said rest assured we will respond wen one or two diplomats are asked to leaf this or that country with policy being whether i say perred in our years. this is colossal pressure and
colossal blackmail which is washington's chief instrument in the scene. nato now revoking the creditdation of seven russians. as we have witnessed the united states with its expulsion of 60 diplomats in this country. four works here in washington, d.c. joined what's a growing number of countries around the fwloeb, more than 20 countries, now more than two dozen who have compell compell compelled 130 plus dip plats. the u.s. anticipates russia will respond after obama expelled 35 russian diplomats, accusing them of russian interference in the 2016 election. russia last year responded expelling 755 american diplomats and other staff in russia. this is the largest number of
expulsions. it's more than ronald reagan expelled during the cold war. now the warehouse and the rest of us wait to see the response from russia. halle. >> with us is congressman david silverly. congressman thank you for being with us. let's start with peter left off. do you expect a tit for tat coming out of moscow? >> i expect that's likely to happen. the united states is one of two dozen countries following the lead of theresa may in expelling these russian officials. i think we can expect that. one of the things the president ought to be developing is a comprehensive strategy that respond to russian aggression military, diplomatic,
propaganda. he's involved in a multif multi straj strategy with the u.s. >> the president hasn't himself spoken forcibly about this, either the poisoning or the russian election interfoorns. the apparatus and strike thatty may be in place but the president hasn't vocalized it as much as some people would like him to. does he need to do that? >> i'm not sure the strategy is developed but it has to deal with strong condemnation from the president. on the telephone conversation with vladimir putin he didn't raise the issue. he called to congratulate him. he never raised the issue of this killing or any other russian allegation. if weaver going to be serious about this we need to respond with not only comprehensive strategy but do things that the russians can't do back. put in real sanctions, go after trump's inner circle, stuff that
will hurt the russian regime. >> putin's inner circle there. do you think this is going to affect russia or do they see this as an announce than anything else? >> i think it will affect their credibility to do information so i think it'll have some impact. if we really want to send a message to putin we meed to go after hi corruption, expose that. so there are ways to send a serious message. we also need the president to show lineup and strongly condemn this and make it clear speak to the american people about what's ate stake and make the u.s. position very clear to the national community. >> i moe you oppose a lot of what president has done, but even some democrats are praising this news, the expulsion of the diplomats. do you think this was the right move? >> i think there's no question there feeds to be a response to what russians did.
i'd infer it needs to include a broader position of sanctions. joining an international coalition of two dozen companies that are expelling those individuals are important and i think it's a good step. i hope the president will develop a fully comprehensive strategy and be a strong leader in this coalition not sort of follow the lead of theresa may. the democrats of the united states is thinking about there in a comprehensive way and impose a punishment that will hurt and send a message to the country that this aggressive behavior and meddling in our elections, they're interference in syria and other places around the world will not will tolerated by the west. >> before i let you go, i want to get your comments on stormy daniels, the president, important star. i don't know if you watched the "60 minutes" interview. what does the white house need to do on stormy daniels and do
you believe this story is much to do about not much or could there be significant impacts here? >> i think we don't know yet. obviously the expenditure and to the extent campaign laws were violated remains an issue. i think the idea that the president has had an extra pairtal affair with a porn star doesn't seem the interest of a lot of folks. i think the one difference is the payment of $130, hush money raises some serious question. once again the honesty of the president in this denial, i thinkpeople don't trust his word jan more. >> congressman thank you for being on the show. let's pick up with what the congressman is talking about on what's happening mt. west wing. reports of staffing changes, fooring and hiring.
reports insist that david shulkin is not on the chopping black now. but the president reportedly swirling the ideas of bringing back rob porter. porter might end up back in some capacity, others are definitely not coming back. lawyers, now two of them have said thanks but no thanks. declining to join the president's team in that russia investigation. the back drop of all of this, the legal fighting coming from this woman here, the porn star who said she had a relationship with the president. she's now going to sue the president's lawyer for definition. jeff is on the lawn. jeff, here we are 40 hours after that interview. the guy who always counter punches is pulling his punches, why do you think that is?
>> that's right. look the fact that stormy daniels attorney is talking to anyone and even about this alleged affair makes the president's silence -- >> i don't want to interrupt you, stormy daniels lawyer is using that to hi advantage saying where's the president on this. he's using this as part of his strategy. >> reporter: that's right. and we asked the senior official about what is the president's account and silence from all of this. they said the president have asked his advisers what to do. they counselled him to say nothing. to say anything would only add fuel to this fire. the stormy daniels fire as sorted as it is it's not affecting his political standing or his legislative agenda. that is what accounts for the president's apparent silence on all of this, halle. there is one development in all of this though. there was a rumor circulated on
line that storm daniels had in her possession a dress she wore the night of this alleged encounter with the president. michael avenatti on twitter knocked that down. he tweeted to address the rumor we do not have a monica lewinski type address. there is no dress to be tested for dna. we alleged a stocking that occurred around mr. cohen threatened in may of 2011. this where we are. we have at this point each side claiming the other side is lying about the alleged encounter and all of the details therein. you have white house officials trying to jurn cut stormy daniels credibility saying she's been inconsistent. the president heeding warnings to stay silent. halle. >> jeff bennet there. let me bring in national report for "the washington post" robert acosta. here on panel alexa cannon along
with betsy woodruff. gang's all here. bob let me go to you first. you know this white house and the president. we are being told by senior administration official that the stormy daniels position does not rise to a presidential response. don lemon rose to the level of the president's response. joe biden calling him crazy that rose to a presidential response. what makes this different? >> it's not that different, that doesn't mean the white house doesn't have to respond. you had a press briefing offen gauging into this issue and the white house official tells me the president continues to think through this matter. nonresponse is the best strategy moving forward. >> what are they determining? >> so far they say the president has huddling with his attorney talking to other white house officials.
and realizing if he draws this out in any way with miss daniels it's something he's not really to accept at this moment. >> there's someone who is working to draw this out and that is michael avenatti, stormy daniels' lawyer. this is an adversary that is different for the president. this isn't a member of congress who's going to sit back and let the president that you some punches and go by. >> the president claims or his attorneys claim he's party to a nondisclosure agreement. if you were to comment on this situation that he has with stormy daniels it's actually nullify the nondisclosure agreement to which he is party. it's really unlike trump just to refuse all the weigh around to respond to a story that's this big. the white house says this doesn't arise to the level of a presidential tweet. the level for a presidential tweet is extremely low. let's be real, i think what's
going on is trump lawyers have explained to him if you were to discuss stormy daniels it will have legal consequences. >> how about personal consequences, it might have those if the president were to talk about this more. i was intrigued by the congressman we just had on, he said yeah, this is baked in the allegations that 'president may have had other affairs with other women, which the president denies it's like listen, the real issue is the follow the money the payment. it's not the sex, if there was the sex it is the money. >> right and during the election he was accused by 16 women, called them liers and said they were two ugly for him to sexually harrass. i think voters saw then this is what we should expect from the president now. if michael cohen violated examine laws that's a big deal. if mueller's looking into that he can subpoena the bank that is issued these payments.
and that can wrap trump up further in a legal matter. >> bob can you talk there, it's brought up the mueller investigation. the president has had reshuffling of hi legal team, many of us spent the weekend dealing with those phone calls and working with that reporting. who is going to be joining and leafing and the make up around the president's team. you also have the president's legal team getting shaken up. tell me what you think the next shoe to drop will be. >> they're looking now for some white shows to come in and join the legal team to help out jay, whose really the lone operator in the president's outside legal team looking at the russia robe, ty cob still working in the white house but his influence has been negligence bl over the weeks. the president keeps asking all these lawyers through jay do to come on. they haven't been able to bring anybody on board. >> rob porter having the
president's ear still. what do you make of that? >> not that surprising. what's interesting is senate majority leader mitch mcconnell told by top leaders is urging the white house to be careful about doing a major shuffle. they don't have time for these long drawn out fights. >> so the implications is he should -- if she should pull the plug on shulkin to do it now? >> you had the con frj process from mike pompeo that's going to eat up time. if you want to move on shulkin do it sooner than later not during the the summer when you have all the senate away focused on their re-election. >> bob costa appreciate you coming in on the show.
alexey and besty. is the problem there's not enough loyalist inside the white house? >> the president likes to be surrounded by people who are friend with limon and encourage him. >> we want to bring you an update to a story we talked about at the top of the show. investigator investigating those suspicious packages in d.c. pete william joining us now on the phone with a new.com on this. what's going on? >> we're told now that one person is in custody, suspected of being behind all these mailings of these suspicious packages to the eastern seaboard around the washington, d.c. area. we're told now that there were 12 devices in all. some are still being found this morning. another one turned up at a secret service mail sorting facility in suburban washington. we've been asked not to report this person's name. this is a person from the
pacific northwest whose been known in the past to law enforcement authorities. it's still not clear to us whether any of these devices actually were fully working bombs. apparently 7 of them did not contain fully working bombs. we don't know whether any single one of them did. one official has told us they seem to be more intended to scare than to actual injury or kill. many of them were accompanied by letters described as rambling and disturbed. i think we'll fine out more shortly about the person that was detained obviously whenever something like this happens, there's a question of whether this person had any help or anyone else was aware of what this person was up to. i guess i could say this is a man. but we're waiting to hear more and be able to report the name. but it does seem like this is for the most part over. >> all right pete william.
i appreciate that update. i appreciate you getting on the phone to give us that information. coming up after the break we want to talk about the north korean spotted in the capital. this was a secret visit, a mystery visit maybe from kim jong-un visiting north korea's closest ally. why this discussion, if it happened between these two leaders is very very unusual and it may affect the upcoming talks between kim jong-un and the president in a matter of weeks. if you have medicare parts a and b
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let's talk about an international mystery unfolding in china over night. you have this motor cape with heavy security here that shut down downtown beijing this morning. look at that car, that's the same car, very similar looking car used by kim jong-un's father when he visited china decades ago. check out this green train, it's pulling in and nearly identical to the train used by kim jong-un's father years ago ago. it's all very hush hush. no one is confirming that this visit happened. if it looks and kwauks like a duck it's probably kim jong-un. it's probably his sister too. it's interesting because of the timing, weeks before a potential summit with president trump.
i'm joined by nbc's hahn nickels in seoul. good to see you. this train is on its way back out of beijing. we think about north korea do we know anything else is anybody saying anything? >> we know the meeting was short and it's over because the train has left. we don't know who was in the meeting it could have been kim jong-un or his sister. this meeting would have significance regardless of what it was. the sister it would have less significance, if it wasn't the leader of enrique. that would freight these upcoming talks with south korean counter parts as well as donald trump. it will give an indication that north wants to have china's buy in on whatever ultimate deal if they do come up with a deal, would that be. it's also an indication if these noeks don't go forward and you have some sort of falling apart, thing could get serious very
real. member that china and north korea have a mutual treaty. if one attacks the other attacks. the treaty that dates back to the end of the war, whether or not that will still hold. just to give you a bit on timing we could know any minute now, when this is the triple a's coming back, it's about 6 to 7 hours, we're trying to figure out when it will come across the border. in the past the north koreans made the name. so we're expecting a potential notification any time now of of beijing, not necessarily north korea nor south korea. halle. >> i'm definitely having flash backs to high school math class, the train leaving here and next time -- i'll leave that all to you. the times that you talk about not just related to trump, kim
jong-un potential summit but also as it relates to the relationship here here. here not as interlocated as it had been in the past. >> china has been a party to four u.n. security counsel resolution against the north koreans. the most recently one was the biting. taking fuel down to barrels a year. you get different use on common economist whether it's having an effect. it's unclear what they're doing whether you look at satellite images. it's not that you see lights turning off in north korea. currency has moved that much, the price a rice hasn't changed. one photo on all this is that the south koreans have been very
quiet. they have very good media and intelligence service. south korean press are the first to come out for anything that's coming out. they've been silent so far. all we have is one thing from the government saying they think this is a very positive. one thing the south koreans don't want to mess up these potential negotiations in any way. >> save travels my friend. see you back here in washington. our panel is back here. jimmy carter out talking about months my being some sort of adversary to north korean. here's what the former president had to say. >> i'm glad to hear that and hopefully he'll be successful. i pray that he will. identify offered to president trump directly on two occasions since he's been in office, i'll be glad to help in any way to go
to north korea if needed. i don't want to go if i don't have to. i'm 93 years old but i'll will glad to do waver he wants to. >> as he points out he's in his early to mid 90s, but is sending someone is a good thing when speaking of these discussions? >> i think there's a lot that's happening in may especially that the u.s. didn't know what was happening. so there were a lot of questions that needs to be answered before they can go into this. i think it sends a signal to donald trump this is higher stakes than he originally planned. john bolton is coming in as national security adviser as all this is happening and he's also a threat to this meeting. >> talk about bolt ton here. perhaps the white house was caught flat foot on this, that is a big deal. how does john bolton play into
this? >> part of the reasons why the white house stories are so important because of stories like this. john bolton has long presented himself as a north korea hawk. he wrote a journal saying -- bolton is not a jimmy carter type. the idea that jimmy carter and bolton would working great on a project is challenging to fathom. generally speaking you want a white house that can take normal clear singular responses to international incidents like we're potentially seeing jrn folding. with the white house forgetting out woez going to be in the cabinet makes it that much more difficult. stick around. another head loan that snuck under the -- with facebook, a whistle blower is sane this morning a lot more of facebook user may
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school is now facing criminal charges the morning for allegedly inappropriately touching a student and restored new nude photos on his computer. set to arraigned later this afternoon. the charge comes from investigation and handling of sexual abuse of naser. he was sentenced to 175 years in prison. in new york city thousands of people gathering now for the funeral of michael davidson, he's the fighter killed friday. davidson had been promoted to lieutenant. he leaves behind a wife and four young kids. new this morning the whistle blower at the face of the data breach scandals. he thinks the number of -- is a lot higher than the 50 million that had been previously reported. that whistle blower, christopher wylie testified before british
lawmakers this morning you can see it here. listen. >> this is a examine that has fwoen around the world and undermined democratic institutions in all kind of countries, right. they could care less as to whether or not the work is compliant buzz they like to win. >> cambridge analytica fired back with their version of he's just a coffee boy. it's a part time contractor that left in july of 2014 and has no knowledge of our work or practices since that day. you also vcr oh mark zuckerberg saying thank but no thanks for appearing in front of congress. tom, thanks for pg on the show. let's talk about facebook and the concerns that go beyond cambridge analytica right? >> yeah you need a score card to keep track of this. if you have a android phone and
you use facebook messenger you may have given facebook to track every phone call and message you've sent. that's a privacy concern that has the company on the offensive and yesterday its stock was on a slide on wall street. >> the morning the world's soshl media giant is facing a giant backlash. tornado warning demanding answers and a federal trait commission launching an investigation to what it calls concerns about the practices of facebook. after a third party cambridge analytica accessed data of millions unsuspected users of 2014. facebook agreed to get users existent before sharing their private information. millions of americans have a self-respect of love/hate relationship with facebook. concerned by privacy issued but two attached to their prejudice and family on facebook to
eliminate it together. >> i feel like i can trust facebo facebook somewhat. >> facebook insist users consented when they approved access to their contact list, it was never shared beyond facebook and customers can turn off the access at any time. investment mark zuckerberg has apologized for the breach of trust involving cambridge analytica. >> facebook is promising to cooperate with a new investigation, it says it remains committed to protecting people's informing. prospect is urging all of us to tighten our facebook settings. deselect or delete any third party app that you don't want facebook to share, at least any information opinion you. and download a complete record
facebook already has on you. all of that is in the settings drop-down menu. there are a lot of onlune tutorials about how to do that. >> gaudy schwartz was here a few weeks ago, i've had a lot of apps i've authorized through facebook. some have 70 or 80 apps that they've authorized and forgot about. >> on the flip side when you download a report everything that's don and recorded about you. i went through and listened to and looked at it. i found some recordings somebody had butt dialed me and the phone was recording evening they said on their found driving along. that was reported on my facebook app and i didn't know it. >> i want to bring back our panel. this is the kind of stuff people are starting to realized, right.
how much information we're voluntarily giving over to these companies. that is raising privacy concerns now. the former ftc dharm was out talking about that this morning about what facebook needs to do. here he is. >> the response could be that you'll get a fundamental rewriting of privacy legislation, a change in the regulatory framework. this title weight had build up in powerful ways overseas. in europe, germany. if you don't take measures to diffuse that you end up with a bigger problem. >> alexia is he right? >> yeah. mark zuckerberg is the only person that needs to testify in front of congress. obviously mark warner said last night they don't want to fine facebook into oh blifon but they need to be held accountable. back in 2011 the ftc charged
facebook on eight counts. it was viewed as a slap on the wrist at that point. i think this time we can expect something significant from the ftc for facebook. >> this could possibly be big going into the midterms. what are the likely voters using, facebook. that's how you get to voter, craft ads. additionally the one thing, the line that's come out of all this is that when you're using facebook you're not the consumer you're the product. facebook is dpat erg your gfgs and using it and making millions of dollars. what that means for campaign is still an open question. did political candidates shy away from using services like cambridge analytica or some other services that provide similar services and change their practices for the purpose of privacy. did campaign decided to put
privacy ahead of potential votes. that's an issue people have to deal with going into the midterms. stick around guys, coming up next bewant to talk about a story that may have floun under your radar. the new policy while you were sleeping coming out with congress. the new question in seven decades. why this has real implications for congress fall seats and why one state is suing. don't miss this.
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the commerce department rolled out some news you need to know about. news that has one state suing the administration. congress says the once in a decade census will start adding a question about a person's citizenship. why does that matter? the last time it was don it was more than a half century ago. there's a reason for this, the question might intimidate immigrants, might discourage them from responding. it might mean some states could lose seats in congress, electoral votes or federal money. there are real implications through this. kenneth joining me now, former director of census bureau. our panel is also back with us. condition net thank you very much for being on with us here. let me start off because wilmer ross, the congress secretary, the guy running this whole thing
was asked about this move this morning. here's what he said. >> there are people who are afraid and don't participate right now, the question is whether that will change and if so, to what degree it will change. we've heard from people on all sides of the e case, we've doing elaborate analysis within census department and we've concluded the benefits to the voter rights act enforcement of asking the question outweighs these ore issues. crust does his argument preventing voter right arguments does that hold any water in your view? >> no it doesn't. >> okay why not? >> we have been in the ministry of voter right act using the citizenship data now for two decades. we get those data from the american community survey which can be more accurate than this enumeration itself. a sample survey allows us to create a understanding of how
accurate the census is in the way an overall fall enumeration doesn't. i may say the secretary ross who i know care about the census, in fact i recruited him in the 1960, he was an e numerator and i was his crew leader. he was a differently deliberate e numerator, did a great job. in this sense he's just out of touch with what the current situation is. this is not an e numerator census, we don't knock on a door we send the form out. people are going to have this form in their home and see this citizenship question and say, why should we do this if they are here with a green card. what does that say to them? thousands of students are here who are not illegals but not citizens. >> do you think then that this is a -- you talked about your knowledge of wilbur ross, do you
believe this is a political move then by the prum administration? this puerirely politics? >> i don't do motivation. i'll tell you it will move seats from blue states to red states. and there are estimates out there saying california could lose as many as four seats in congress in electoral votes therefore. seats that might come out ahead in ohio and virginia. we'll have to see how this plays out. i think there's no doubt of what it will have consequences for the corporation rate with the census. >> i want to bring in betsy and alexey here. we know the state of california is suing the white house. including a citizenship questions on a 2020 census is not just a bad idea it is illegal. going on to say congress
conduct -- regardless of citizenship status. you heard ken talk through some of the real impacts this could have. how do you see it playing out? >> this is going to be a massively question for the justice department. it could be one of the politically hottest questions that could ultimately face the supreme court whether or not it's legal to ask people about their citizenship. >> with you look at the impact, alexey, the results is an undercap not all these people participate in the census. california could lose a seat in the house which politico notes is unheard after. adding in such a solid blue state the loss of a seat would have a disproporngts on the democratic party. >> there's a huge aspect to that. the democrats are trying to take a huge number of seating without this happening. that could shift 2018 and beyond for decades. president trump's relength
campaign sent out an e-mail to reporters last week sort of campaigning and asking this questions to the support this. >> trump launched his 2016 candidacy bashing immigrants and now starting his 2020 re-election campaign doing the same thing. >> thank you all for joining us here and talking through this critically important story. thanks. new numbers show the president's approval rating is higher than it's been in a year. does that some v something to do with the economy. we're breaking this down with adam kinzinger coming up next. i wanted to fight back. my doctor and i came up with a plan. it includes preservision. only preservision areds 2 has the exact nutrient formula recommended by the national eye institute to help reduce the risk of progression of moderate to advanced amd. that's why i fight. because it's my vision.
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so let's check out what's happening on wall street where the relief rally continues just over an hour not trading day. stocks up by about 80 points in the dow after the dow's best day in more than two years. up 669 yesterday the third biggest point gape gain of all time. concerns seem to be easing over the president's plan to impose $60 billion in tariffs on goods from china. we've talked about the stocks over the last week or so, joining me now, somebody else talking about it, congressman adam kinzinger, republican from illinois and member of the
energy and commerce committee. >> good morning. >> i want to start with new polling that shows the president's approval rating at its highest and his handling of the economy seems to be driving that. okay. he does get low marks for trade. you said on the trade subcommittee, how comfortable are you with the tariff plan and confident we're not going to end up seeing a trade war with china? >> no. it's a concern. i think the last week or two weeks has been a little better in terms of it's been much more targeted against china, of the pushback against stealing of i.p., intellectual property, unfair business practices. this is all good stuff. the president has shown in the steel tariffs, for instance, that he's going to delay it for our allies. it's a little more measured in the last few weeks than kind of what we were fearing at the beginning. so i think the chances of a trade war are less now, because again, yes, it hurts us in a trade war but does hurt anybody else that engages with us. who has the ability to take more pain. he doesn't maybe get great marks
for that. i think the american people still support free trade, but they want it to be fair and so the president is -- he has an opportunity now to make more fair trade out of free trade. >> you also sit on the tech subcommittee and we did a segment on facebook and what mark zuckerberg needs to do here to talk about some of these privacy concerns now exposed by cambridge analytica. these data breaches you could call them. does facebook need to be regulated? what do you want to see happen? >> i want to see facebook come and testify first. >> facebook or mark zuckerberg or just top execs? who do you want to see? >> i would love to see mark zuckerberg and facebook and whoever. this has been an issue for a year i've been on the committee we've been wrestling with the issue of privacy and any time we try to discuss privacy some say there should be no government hand at all in privacy. that's coming from the left to be honest with you. so the question is, how can there be a maybe light touch to say things like fake news has problem, you know, people have a right to privacy on some
information, at the same time facebook that offers a free service, has a right to advertise so how do you find that middle ground? i don't have the answers. if i did i would have a bill to do it and i don't think anybody knows how to do it. having this discussion is important. >> you're on foreign relations and i want to talk about russia. you praised the president for given the boot to the russian diplomats who -- kicking them out in the country in response to the exspy poisoning in britain. i want to play something your colleague had to say and get your reaction on the other side. >> the president needs to give a much fuller voice to defending waern values. that's been an issue. while the administration has done many good things with respect to russia in terms of providing lethal weapons, defensive weapons to the ukrainian government, pushing back here by the expulsion of the diplomat, the president has not been forceful in his own voice. >> is congressman dent right? >> yeah. i would like to see the
president be more verbally forceful against russia. it's an interesting dichotomy. the last president, president obama, spoke good words about russia, but it was basically under his tenure that russia had a foot hold in syria, we have ukraine and the election meddling. this president, president trump, hasn't said much about russia, which is kind of mysterious, but at the same time from the administration of what he's signed and done, i just said recently it's been one of the most hawkish represents against russia, frankly, in action, so it's confusing to a lot of people which is on the one hand why don't you say something, but the other hand the actions have been aggressive. >> russia doesn't see it that way. sergey lavrov talked about in a statement we showed earlier in the show that apologies are being whispered into our ears in russia. who is whispering the apologies into russia's ear? >> i don't trust sergey lavrov. this is probably one of the things he would say to make it look like it isn't real. >> you think he's making it up. >> i'm not going to take him at
his word. i will say the economic pushback, the lethal weapons to ukraine is huge an the fact that there were 200 russian mercenaries killed by american forces that hasn't gotten much discussion and we're pushing back in syria. >> should the president, another headline stormy daniels, should he come out and say something about that situation in your view? >> you know, look, it's an issue that i think back and say, you know, is this behavior between two consenting adults. it's probably okay to stay silent and let the facts come out and, you know, if people have an interest in what two consulting adults did or didn't do i will let them deal with that? >> thanks very much for joining us here on recess week on capitol hill. >> you bet. >> we will end with the big picture. women's history month. honoring the best pictures by for and about women and today we are honoring a true pioneer, linda brown. girl in 1954 who wanted to go to her neighborhood school in topeka but only open to white students.
her dad went to court and she became the face of brown versus the board of education. which overturned the separate but equal doctrine, desegregated schools, brown died sunday at age of 75. we are remembering her, her life and her legacy. this photo courtesy of the associated press. we would love to hear your thoughts on facebook, twitter, snapchat and instagram. chris jansing holding down the fort in new york. like a ping-pong game. your hour, my hour, back to yours. >> right in the middle. sandwiched in the middle. thank you so much. >> thanks. >> great to see you. good morning, everyone. i am chris jansing, all ali veld stephanie ruhle are off. >> kicking dozens of russian diplomats out of the country in moscow, now threatened to retaliate. >> the u.s. is expelling 60 russian diplomat, the most ever. >> joining more than 20 countries kicking out