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that's going to wrap up this hour of "msnbc live." i'll see you tomorrow morning. katy tur is standing by. >> craig melvin, good to see you, happy friday. >> enjoy your holiday. >> you too. it is 11:00 a.m.out west and 2:00 p.m. in the east. president trump is at mar-a-lago where he'll spend the holiday weekend. while he's 1,000 miles away from washington, the threat of a nuclear arms race with russia has surely followed him to florida. russian officials tested an intercontinental ballistic missile. the test follows putin's first state of the nation speech where he showcased nuclear weapons. and warned the west that the invincible missiles would make all of america's defenses obsolete. it also comes one week after the president called putin to congratulate him on his election win. now that we're learning new
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details about that phone call, i worked by putin's saber rattling, trump told the russian president, if you want to have an arms race, we can do that, but i'll win. >> russia has been on the defensive ever since the british government openly blamed moscow for the poisoning of a former russian spy. >> russia is actively hostile at the united states at this point. it's engaging in violations of international law. >> we have been told that president trump's been reluctant to take strong action against russia, against vladimir putin. >> the president of the united states needs to stand up and clearly state what the threat from russia is and what we're going to do about it. >> just days after the u.s. ordered its largest expulsion of russian spies in our nation's history, russia has retaliated. they will expel 60 u.s. diplomats and are expected to close the u.s. consulate in st.
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petersburg. a relationship between the two countries being at its lowest point ever. >> what do you think the relationship between our two countries has deteriorated to this point? and what responsibility is russia willing to take for that? >> first, i don't understand why russia should take any responsibility. seems to me the atmosphere in washington is poison, is poison. it's a toxic atmosphere. >> remember, donald trump said much of the 2016 campaign lavishing praise on the russian president, fueling speculation his campaign was somehow linked to russia and its interfere in the 2016 zblaekz i said he was a strong leader, which he is. he might be bad, he might be good, but he's a strong leader. >> we're going to have a great relationship with putin and russia. >> if he says grefrlgz about me, i'm going to say great things about him. he is very much of a leader.
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>> so this this bromance off? what's next a cold war? let's get to our team of reporters. carol lee and national security and military reporter courtney kube. carol, i want to start with you. we just heard the russian ambassador talking to savannah guthrie. the state department said yesterday ultimately russia bears all the responsibility here, this is not a tit for tat. they were responsible for the poisoning of a russian spy and the they have meddled in our election. carol? >> i'm sorry. i couldn't hear you. yes, that's right, katy.
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and i think there's no question things are the worst between the u.s. and russia. however, from our regulator we've learned that president trump still holds on to this hope of having some sort of warmer relationship with russian president vladimir putin, and he has not given up that hope and continues to be a reason, at least according to his senior aides, as to why he's so reluctant to criticize putin publicly or highlight the policies he's adopted. at the same time, they have this phone call where the president says that he was clearly unhappy about putin's saber rattling in terms of his nuclear capabilities, and he raised that and said if you want to do this, i'll win. he also congratulated him. we can't forget that and he raised the issue of the nerve
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agent attack. it's a very convoluted inside the white house and they've struggled with that. >> so what is next? is the relationship going to be a positive one going forward? is it going to be a negative one going forward? is the bromance off? why not if he wants to have an arms race and he'll win, why not allow his deputies to be clear about where we stand in relation to russia? >> it remains to be seen. president trump has had what people have found to be an odd liking of vladimir putin even as he continues to antagonize the u.s. one thing we learned in our reporting is that the president was presented be three options for retaliating against russia last friday, and he choose the middle option, so not the least aggressive, but not the most
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aggressive. part of the reason was he could leave that more aggressive option on the table in case he wanted to take further action depending ow russia responded to the expulsion of the russian diplomats. >> what prompted russia's latest missile test? >> excellent question. in any missile program there's testing. there's research and development. this is a missile, an icbm that russia talked about for years wanting to develop and to make it operational. depends on exactly what was tested here today. the russians have said this was an ejection test as opposed to a full icbm missile launch. what that means is it doesn't fly as far. it would go 500 miles or less when it goes up in the air and lands. we don't know yet. the u.s. officials haven't confirmed whether they believe that to be the case or not. but most likely this is a
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missile test. the u.s. military tested two try dent missiles this week from a u.s. navy sub. >> in the reporting we have from nbc news from you guys, the article reeds trump called the leaders of france, germany, and the u.k. to say the russian leader sounded dangerous, so the four of them needed to stick together. this is after the conversation -- sorry, after donald trump heard vladimir putin's speech the other week where he was touting his military might, his military capability. how did those leaders respond, courtney? i imagine the reaction was kind of confused because of the way that donald trump has spoken about vladimir putin in the past. >> those are all leaders who have spoken out about vladimir putin and the danger russia poses to the west and poses to nato allies. you know, obviously not having been on the phone call, i would
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welcome the invitation to listen next time. but i imagine they were surprised to hear donald trump finally starting to echo the warnings ethey have been giving both publicly and privately for sometime now. as carol and kristen and my story reported, he's had to be pushed into seeing vladimir putin as an adversary. one of the tactics they use is to say that is guy who responds to strength, so you need to meet strength with strength. that was one way they pushed him into making these decisions to convince him that the united states needs to stand strong, that he needs to stand strong against these repeated cases of russian aggression. >> is there going to response from the pentagon to the missile test, courtney? >> i doubt it. especially if it was an ejection test. if that was the case, it doesn't
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even require any kind of notification from russia to the united states in advance. there's the start treaty and memorandum of understanding, but if it's just an ejection test, and that is -- those are for everyone's safety. if russia were to launch off an icbm without notifying the united states in advance, the u.s. is going to know. they're going to see it within a matter a minute or two. they're going to see it launching. if they don't know that that's a test, then they could see that as a potential attack. it's in everyone's best interest they notify them in advance. if this is just an ejection test, i don't anticipate anything from the pentagon. >> ladies, good job on that reporting. thank you very much for joining us this friday. >> thanks, katy. >> michael carpeter is very director for diplomacy and
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global engagement, and former nfc director for russia. daniel hoffman is a moscow station chief for the cia and vp of impera, a cyber intelligence firm. michael, the president has attempted in the past to engage with vladimir putin, to flatter him. he's said it's better if we have a good relationship with vladimir putin. do you see this as a sign that things could potentially be deteriorating between the two men? >> well, i think russia's game plan here is to engage in this sort of nuclear saber rattling, tough rhetoric, tough talk that will signal that the stakes are high and the united states and other western countries really need to come to the table and work together. and the problem is the mixed messaging coming from the white house.
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so vladimir putin only listens to what president trump says. he discounts all the other things being said, and that's dangerous because it can cause miscommunication and a misunderstand of where the united states stands on these issues like the expulsion of diplomats and the reciprocal actions that followed. >> i wasn't on the phone, you weren't on the phone for this conversation but we are also getting mixed messages about the conversation that vladimir putin and donald trump had the other week. on the one hand he was told not to congratulate him on his election win. he did that. he didn't bring up the spy poisoning, but about the same time we're getting details about how -- i don't know if it was in a threatening tone, who knows, but he said if you want to have an arms race, we can do that, i'll win. what is your take on that and how do you think, having lived there and dealt with russians and the russian community and vladimir putin, indirectly at least, how would he take that?
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>> listen, i served in moscow far number of years, and i can tell you, i always felt like i was behind enemy lines. there were a lot of guys following me around. it was very challenging to work there. and vladimir putin likes it that way. he wants a degree of animosity between the west and russia because what he'll do is exaggerate the threat from the united states, exaggerate the military threat. i think that's one of the reasons behind this icbm test right after the election. he's not going to dial down the anti-west rhetoric because his regime security depends on it. the real threat to vladimir putin is democracy. he wants to con inflate this military threat from the united states and nato with our ideals of freedom and liberty and democracy which so threaten himself, threaten his ability to remain in power. >> we have the expulsion of 60 russian diplomats, intelligence
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officers, moscow has responded in kind by expelling 60 of our diplomats out there. what happens next? is this just standard tit for tat or are we going down a dangerous path? >> kind of depends what the trump administration decides to do next, but it was entirely foreseeable that russia would reciprocate, which is defy expulsion of diplomats is never something that imposes cost. it's a bad idea because whether those positions are back filled or not, it doesn't matter. russia's going to do the exact same thing. we'll have to see where the administration takes it from here. but, frankly, if they want to response strongly to the sprip pal poisoning, they should adopt further steps. >> are we heading towards another cold war? >> it's a new year right now in some ways. it's far more dangerous because russia's strategy might be the same, but they're using advanced
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cyber techniques to conduct their mission. this is a big deal to close down our consulate in st. petersburg. i lived in russia, there's a lot of fake news there. we do rely on our people on the ground to report back on what they're seeing in russia. we're going to miss that. the russians can track what's going on in the united states fairly easily, but it's not quite the same for us. >> there's also another piece of this. richard engel has new reporting on what's happening in syria. he recently met with u.s. forces there. yesterday president trump said time is running out for the u.s. mission in syria, but america's local allies out there are concerned that we're going to end up cutting and running, leaving them to essentially fend for themselves. if the u.s. pulls out of syria without a plan, and that leaves a vacuum that will be filled by russia, what happens next? it will make it russia's largest troop deployment since world war ii. >> well --
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>> michael, i'm sorry. >> there's two types of consequences to this. on one hand, if the united states withdraws, then russia effectively owns syria. and so that for vladimir putin also poses a number of challenges because, especially in the eastern part of the country, he's going to have wave upon wave of sunnir radicalized extremist to attack the assad regime. it's presenting russia with a real conone drum going forward. it cuts both ways. >>. news on the russia investigation. we'll tell you what robert mueller is looking at now and how it might impact attorney general jeff sessions.
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special counsel robert mueller is traveling down a lot of roads as part of his russia investigation. riote reuters is reporting the events around the republican national convention in cleveland. mueller is focusing on a convention-related event attended by sergey kislyak.
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while language hostile to russia was ultimately deleted from the republican party's platform. that report came as sessions told congress he will not appoint a second special counsel to investigate the fbi's hool s handling of cases including carter page. joining us now is "washington post" political reporter philip bump and from washington, benjamin wittes and senior foal in governing studies at the brookings institution. this shouldn't be surprising they're looking into the convention and what happened. lots of questions about why they decided not to arm pro-ukraine forces against russian rebels as that conflict was heating up back in 2016.
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also that jeff sessions had a meeting with ambassador kislyak. when you hear this, though, what does that lead you to believe that the mueller investigation is right now? >> as you say, this is about the least surprising story in the world. it would have been pretty surprising given the investigations mandate if it wasn't interested in that plank of the republican convention in ukraine in 2016. all it really tells you, which we kind of knew from mueller's filing the other day on rick gates, is that, you know, they have not lost interest in the question of collusion. and they are still asking questions and conducting a serious investigation on the
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basic question of what the core relationship was, if any, between russian intelligence and the trump campaign and its people. and i think this is, you know, further evidence of that, and there has been a lot of evidence of that of late. >> michael caputo who worked on the campaign for the convention and during the convention says the kislyak meeting was not a thing, it was just a side meeting. it wasn't preplanned, they weren't talking about anything specific, it was part of a number of other ambassadors that were at the convention. that it's not unusual. he would also say the idea of arming somebody, the u.s. arming somebody to fight against russia would have been a very big deal, and that's why they reversed that part of the platform. does that arrangement hold water in this case? >> two things. the point about the meeting between sessions and kislyak i
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think is well taken. it appears it was a fairly casual conversation the two of them had at them challenge was when sessions was being interviewed and he failed to talk about that. makes sense. the issue of arming ukraine against russia, though, the reason that's significant is twofold. the moment it happened, there was increased attention being paid to trump's relationship with russia and vladimir putin, and the person who had been talked about as being involved in making that change was a campaign adviser named jd gordon. he had relationships with george papadopoulos, tied directly to russia by the job that he played in the campaign. gordon in charge of to dealing with the foreign policy adviser's team. that nexus at that moment in the republican convention, given what we now know, that it
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overlapped. at the time there was a lot of attention drawn to it. why are they making this change? this is a weird relationship. now it takes on a different light. >> yesterday you had a tweet that i retweeted, caught me eye, talking about the trump-russia connections. you said this was the least complicated maze. why is it the least complicated maze, and why do you think it's toes connect donald trump to all of this directly? >> that's the whole point. if you were trying to find a path from putin to trump, there's at least six different paths you can take before the election ended. after, there are a bunch of different paths with michael flynn and so forth. the infamous trump tower meeting, i'm pulling rick perry. so many paths that if you want to get to putin to trump that you can take that it's always been hard to take at face value
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donald trump's verificatiassert there's no collusion. we see it a lot of ways in which russia was trying to aid donald trump's campaign and donald trump's campaign appears to have been aware of it. >> is this maze as easy for mueller? >> i think everything philip just said is right. there's another element as well if you're not going to bring a case, if you were going to exclude, part of what investigators do is decide what cases not to bring, what are the dead ends. you really want to understand the total parameters of every single interaction that happened between russian officials and trump campaign officials. so the fact that the
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sessions-kislyak meeting at the convention may have an incidental contact, you want to nail that down and understand what it wasn't as well as what it was. >> is gates going to be more valuable in helping the special counsel see who the trump team had been in contact with in terms of russia, or is it going to be more value in prosecuting manafort? >> yes. >> both? >> look, i think, obviously, look, i think manafort, they have the goods on manafort. and i think they're going to -- they probably didn't need gates for purposes of that case or they wouldn't have brought it without his cooperation in the first instance. you want more rather than less, and they have here in his cooperation an opportunity through somebody who was the deputy campaign manager and
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around a long time and stuck around through transition to get a window into a lot of the questions they're asking about broader collusion stuff. it bears on both questions. >> if rick gates has more dirt on collusion than on manafort, then the president is in deep trouble. >> philip bump, good to have you. ben wittes, thank you as always. coming up, when growing up seems to be part of the problem. unbelievable. it's next. ♪ whether it's a big thing, small thing, or something unexpected, pnc will be right there when you need us.
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. are you ready to return to the show? >> no. i'm not because she only apologized after her advertisers dropped her. she's gone after lebron james, dwyane wade and multiple people. she's a bully and needs to be held accountable. a bully is a bully ask they must be held accountable. >> survive david hogg is having none of laura inning gram's apology. in response, the 1-year-old went on twitter and asked her advertisers to boycott her show. nine companies pulled their ads, among them, trip adviser,
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johnson & johnson. cue laura ingraham's apology. i apologize for any hurt my tweet caused him or any of the. no matter what your feelings about gun control are, let's be clear here, ingraham was mocking a school shooting survivor for not getting into colleges. why would you do that? what's worse is she is not the only one. hogg and his classmates have been the subject of attacks for weeks over things that have nothing to do with gun control. crisis actor theories claiming they were actors who insert themselves into tragedies in order to exploit a loiiberal
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viewpoint. a republican candidate for maine's house called emma gonz a skin head lessbian. he's no longer a candidate. there was a fake image of sledding the constitution. and that fake photo went viral. a reminder, the subjects of these attacks are kids, kids who were hiding for their lives inside their classrooms, kids who were on the receiving end of ar-15 fire, kids who, instead of continuing to hide, have made it their mission to stop it from happening again. they turned their horror into hope. they've done what adults have not, which is remarkable in itself. that they're being attacked for it after literally being attacked with another kid with a weapon of war is unbelievable. but what is more unbelievable is
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that today in this atmosphere, in this 2018, it is entirely believable. social media is less and less a place to share ideas, convect old friends or make new ones. it is a place where everyone can get into their preferred corner and scream at the other side. you're a lib tarred, you're a nazi. what is unbelievable is adults are doing it to kids. i'd say grow up, but growing up seems to be part of the problem. joining us now is gabe sherman, msnbc contributor and "vanity fair" kornet. also howard bragman. gentlemen, thank you very much. gabe, let's start with you. laura ingraham says a lot of divisive things. this is not the first time she's done so. this is the first time that it's cut into her pockets. >> this is part of pattern, not
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only her at fox, but sean hannity and going back in time, glenn beck also faced boycotts. so this is a case where this divisive extreme rhetoric on fox news might be good to stir up their audiences' passion, but doesn't work if you're trying to market and sell your product and create a good feeling towards your brand. so that's really why laura ingraham is facing such a backlash because this apology is so hollow, only when it's hitting the bottom line did she walk her comments back. >> bill o'reilly got fired after a boycott really cut into his advertisers. but bill o'reilly was facing multiple lawsuits. there was news about settlements he had. this was as fox news was dealing with the followout from roger ailes. is bill o'reilly in this case the exception to the rule or will he become the rule? is this going to effect laura
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ingraham down the line or is she going to be able to weather the storm, howard? >> i think she's going to get through this okay. the good news for fox is they can take that advertising and really shuffle it to other shows so they probably won't lose anything in the bottom line. but laura ingraham was warned and bested by a 17-year-old who is incredibly savvy with social media. nine of those companies abandoned her. it's a warning and different from bill o'reilly's situation. so i think she'll survive. they like her. she's certainly a strident voice, but one for the fox viewers seem to respond to. >> a warning, where does that leave us now where all you get for attacking the victim of a horrific shooting who is a teenager is essentially just a warning, a slap on the wrist? >> as you pointed out, this is the climate we're in.
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it's really, i think, representative of a climb that's set from the top. the president of the united states routinely demonizes people on social media. i think that's effected the broader culture. it's really hard if you see it from fox's point of view, why would they suspend laura ingraham when the president of the united states is doing that every day. that's conditioning the fox audience to like that type of rhetoric. >> is it a good thing to be divisive and outspoken? does that help build your brand, howard? is that how you get farther off from our culture? >> it does seem to work. i always use the example with my clients. you could cure cancer tomorrow, 85% of people will think you're a genius, and 15% will criticize you for putting doctors and pharmaceutical companies and nurses out of business. we have a polarized society. i remember when i was a kid if walter cronkite lifted his bra a
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certain way, you would say he's trying to telegraph something. now we know where every network stands. we know where every person in the network stands, and that seems to be how they get an audience now. >> howard bragman and gabe sherman, guys, thank you very much. >> thanks. another week, another round of chaos at the white house. former va sector david shulkin is firing back after he was given the boot earlier this week. who president trump is thinking about bringing back to the white house, here's a hint: it's not someone who left voluntarily. that's next. little things can be a big deal. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable after just 4 months, ... with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring.
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we're making changes. we've made a lot of progress with the veterans. but i want to get them choice. they didn't give us choices. the democrats didn't want the vets to have choice. >> the president tweeted i am pleased to announce i intend to unemployment highly respected ronnie l. jackson m.d. as the new secretary of veterans affairs. >> the president not taking questions when he walked out to the helicopter, but a handshake and a farewell for hope hicks. stormy daniels sat down with "60 minutes." >> always turmoil. the president is flicking his white house fidget spinner, who's the next to go?
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va secretary david shulkin is gone and now also hope hicks. she left with three years of memories, a lifetime worth of drama, and kiss on the cheek from the commander in chief. she left quietly as she is wont to do. the va sector is talking to anybody who will listen. >> it's important he surround himself with people that have the ability to lead, that can do this. obviously i've described that i think that washington is very chaotic, very, very tough environment. it should not be this hard to come in to serve. that makes me very concerned about what's going to happen in the future. >> with me here in the newsroom is nick confessorry, "new york times" political reporter and political analyst and joel benson, pollster for
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barack obama. hope hicks leaving, i've talked to folks we tight end campaign and the white house, folks around the president who are very worried about not having her there. is that legitimate? >> it is very legitimate. she has played a critical roll. it's not her job title communication director, it's emotional support dog for the president. that's why she had an office next to him. she's there because she can anticipate his needs. he trusts her implicitly. she's there to interpret what he wants and passes messages back and forth. that's a critical roll in this white house, and now there's nobody who's going to fill it. >> from the outside looking in, though, if she was moderating or influencing or communicating, gosh, what is this place going to look like without her? >> i read the story saying she
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was the one preventing the white house from fracturing. i can't wait to see the next 14 months. but if that was your idea of holding it together, what does that say? it's a disaster. >> but every -- >> and republicans are starting to say that now. >> every politician, if he never a position of power has that person that they trust implicitly, they have that right-hand man or woman, that person who helps them, navigate a difficult situation, or they can bounce ideas off of. are you concerned that he's not going to have that person, even th -- >> more orphften they have more than one. when david pluff left the white house, dan pfeiffer replaced him. he had a series of people. this president doesn't seem to encourage strong relationships. he is like a five-year-old driving bumper cars with his
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staff, slamming people left and right. who wants to work for somebody knowing you could be fired by tweet one day? he doesn't engender the confidence and trust it takes to build up a group of people whom you can rely on for those kinds of roles and they are essential in the white house. >> there's talk that the communications director role might not go filled for a while. what happens if that's the case? >> absolutely nothing because it wasn't really filled before. and i'm not throwing shade at hope hicks here. her job was not her job. communications director is someone who does long-term strategic planning. but there have been precious few others. they don't do it because the president doesn't want them to do it. so the main reason you want to fill that job is because it wasn't filled before. even when it was filled, they weren't doing that job because no one can do that job in this white house. >> talk about organization.
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white house former staff secretary rob porter was somebody that folks within the white house say despite his personal short comings was actually good at the job. the president has said to miss how organized he was. is there absolutely any scenario on this planet where bringing back rob porter as the president might want to do could be considered or seen as a good idea, especially how chaotic this white house is? >> no. i think it would be a disaster. not that that would necessarily stop him, but it would be a disaster. i don't think in this environment you can bring back somebody who has had the history with women that rob porter has had, it's inconceivable. >> is it really that hard to find somebody who is organized, somebody who is responsible, somebody who's qualified? is it really that hard to find people to work in this white house? >> apparently. >> donald trump doesn't want them, he wants people who are just loyal to him or
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entertaining to him and will go up in front of reporters and say he's a perfect specimen of health? >> porter can't come back because he can't get a security clearance. >> trump could say i waive that. >> if you are a middle tier or mid career person to come in, but you're actually walking into the potential of getting involved in a really high-stakes investigation or three or four, or getting subpoenaed and getting a lawyer. and the circle of people who are personally loyal to him was pretty small to begin with. it hasn't grown meaningfully. what you get are people who want access to the power, and you get those in every white house. >> despite the chaos, it is a relatively calm time in terms of our national security. you could say there's saber
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rattling from russia and north korea. we haven't had a massive attack on our soil, there's not a massive crisis here that is outside of what we see in this administration. what happens if there is one? >> well, i think what's going on beneath the surface, though, this gets to your question. when you look at the four people who have been replaced recently, gary cohn, rex tillerson, mcmaster, those people were sending signals of stability and normalcy to the outside world that has to interact with government. you don't have people there now. those people who will be the talkers when things happen, they will be very concerned about any glitch right now that there is no one there to present chaos because he's removed people who they thought were able to prevent chaos. >> pompeo, bolton? >> no,. he's been criticized by both
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one more thing before we go, you might hear about the podcast about a murder case that rocked a baltimore community and if you didn't you probably heard about it and wondered whether the teenager convicted of the murder got a fair trial. a teacher at the time -- a teenager at the time was convicted of kidnapping and killing his ex girlfriend back in 2000. here is the thing. in the two decades since, he's never changed his story and he's always claimed he is innocent. the podcast highlighted problems with how the state used cell phone towers to try and pin down his location at the time of that murder. that 21 minutes that sarah conig was talking about and the potential negligence by the
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defense attorney who never reached out to a friend of his who could have provided him with an alibi. and after the attention that podcast generated and after he served 16 years of a life sentence. a baltimore court has vacated all charges against him which means they're allowing a retrial. the maryland court of appeals agreed that he didn't have -- or did have a negligence defense attorney at his original trial. today syed and his new lawyer are thrilled by the decision and credited the serial podcast for opening a door to give them a new chance. >> serial kind of shook the trees and that enabled us to get in contact with mcclain and bring her to baltimore for the post-conviction hearing. i think it was two years ago. and so in that way serial was huge. and serial has also helped this
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ground support for us and for the case. >> but it doesn't quite end there. sorry it broke up at the end of that. the state of maryland has 30 days to appeal this decision. we will be watching, we will let you know what happens. stay with us. thank you so much. thank you! so we're a go? yes! we got a yes! what does that mean for purchasing? purchase. let's do this. got it. book the flights! hai! si! si! ya! ya! ya! what does that mean for us? we can get stuff.
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that will wrap things up for me this hour. david gura picks it up.
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david, i don't know if anyone knows this but you are a real jokester. >> i am. >> you asked me if i was doing "meet the press" and i am. it is "meet the press" daily. >> good to see you. i'm david gura in for ali velshi. president trump kicked off his long easter holiday in mar-a-largo and tension is ratcheting up overseas. a roadside bomb in northern syria killed two service members including a american and u.s. defense officials calling this a rare attack since the u.s.-led coalition sent trips into the country. a report reveals there is a new threat in the fight against isis. u commanders say as the terrorist group is on the brink of defeat, the white house shake-up is threatening to destroy the mission and tension with russia is also intensifying. the defense ministry released new video showing the successful

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