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ali velshi. i'll see you all day long on twitter. coming up with more goos from my friend halle jackson. this morning we got these threats leading our head lines starting with president trump on a twitter terror. he's threatening to pull out of nafta. that third threat, china slaps its own tariffs on u.s. imports. the buzz that seems to be circling around the head of the epa, all of it as the president and first lady get set to say hi to kids at the easter egg roll in the next 30 minutes. 1300 miles outside of the beltway, teachers in oklahoma walking out of the class room demanding raise not just their paychecks but for education across the state. you'll want to listen to
another story later in the show because someone, rather something else is the smart speakers in the living room. the makers may want them listening to more and more but do you want to know if your kids are drawing on the wall, family dinners. are you creeped out yet. i am. first our team is here in d.c. across the country and around the world. starting with jeff bennet at the white house. jeff, we're going to see the president in about 30 minutes this morning. the last time we saw hip publicly speaking down in florida. he was talking daca, still talking daca this morning. what's the latest line from the white house? >> reporter: hey there, halle great to see you. officials are echoing with the president. democrats aren't serious about the dhaka deal, even though the democrats point out he was the one that cancelled the daca program last fall and rejected their immigration proposals. take a look at what sarah
sanders said about this earlier today. >> the president made ultimate l offers on daca, he wanted to see something done and democrats refused to put something on the table. >> reporter: but as to what prompted all of this, i think it's important to flag is couple of thing. first, the president i'm told spent the weekend at mara largo surrounded by old friends and allies. and people in the white house, like stephen miller that his base believers he is softening, giving in on immigration. illegal immigration has always been a touch stone for this president. the promise of the border wall and attacking mexico and illegal immigrants, all of that fed the pop lynch of his campaign. then there was that news segment of a caravan of roughly a thousand people from central america traveling through mexico on their way to the u.s. hopefully asking for asylum.
that's what persipitated the president's tweet storm. he says mexico has the power not to let these largecare vans of people entering the country. they must stop them at their northern border because their border walls work, not allow them to pass through our country ch which has no effective border laws. everyone wants to get on to the daca band wagon. no longer works. democrats wants hence no drugs or crime. he reflats the refugee crisis if central america saying there that refugees want to get in on the act. although to be clear, the daca policy sabsz applicants must have lived continuously in the u.s. in 2007 and entered the u.s. before their 15th birthday. he is trying to accuse democrats for killing prospects of a daca
deal because the president db want democrats to be able to turn it into a political weapon in the 2018 hid terms, halle. >> jeff bennet there at the white house. plenty to keep you business this morning, thank you much. i want to bring in our panel for the next 57 machines here. sara westwood. andsy lee ka pore. guys there was a fact check on the spring. reality versus a tweet storm. the president didn't seem to have all the facts at haptd wen he was doupg this tweet storm this morning over the weekend blaming democrats, that is not a new line. is this their 2018 move for their strategy? >> i think conservators would make the argument that even thee these people coming into the country isn't eligible for daca, the point is amnesty laws would -- even sew president trump is making it an attempt to
engage the debate in a real way. he's been moving the goal mopos for what he wants. at one point it was legal status for people who were eligible for daca. at the time of the only my bus he moved it back for the people currently enrolled in daca. >> and you have an interesting piece out too ks talking specifically about how the lack of a deal for dreamers could effect the balance of power on congress? >> let's not forget the president was offered $25 billion for his wall in exchange for citizenship for the people who were eligible for daca. that doesn't include people who have come after 2012 or 2007. the president rejected that deal, his demand over and over again is steep cut to family base. that is one thing democrats won't abide. they caved on the wall, he had
victory in hand. he could have gotten both, a daca deal, and he could have claimed the wall. now we're looking at 2018 elections where zlats are going to try to weaponize it. there are a number of raises where it's going to matter, states like nevada and open seats in arrest. >> it's not just democrats that's going to weaponize this, it seems as republicans are try to point the finger as well. you had that with tom cole, a republican, out on this network talking about where he thought there was going with steve kornacki. watch. >> i think the president's shown more sincerity on this issue. >> he's saying no deal now. what does that mean now? >> again, i've always been suspicious that democrats wanted a deal. look, they love the immigration issue, they didn't like solving the problem very much. >> it seems like democrats could point to polls like this one
showing 83% of americans do believe daca should be continued and it is obviously president trump who decided to end the program. >> and trump has been saying he doesn't think the dreamers how old worry he's going to handle this with great heart. he himself has been on record that hee going to continue the program it's just the countiesdown know if they want to include all this immigration. >> you heard jeff bennet repeat the wordscare van, that was the word. as you probably know that network was fox news talking about caravans. we have a shot in what was playing in machines before the president tweeted, as you can see about immigration, both sunday morning and this morning. the caravan of immigrants, shaun hannity was reportedly at mar-a-largo this weekend. there is a feedback that something gets talked about on the media that the president
watches and then it comes out of his mouth. >> the president is clearly conflicted on the issue of daca between his base which is hard line. they do not want leniency for people who broke the law. how ever which way you count the number of people they don't want that. he's also conflicted on the other hand pause he knows daca has a popular issue. he reads the polls. when it comes down to it the closer we get to political season, he trenches, he's on twitter rampage this morning. >> nafta. >> july 2015 trump, it's his greatest hits on immigration. >> there was also one bashing the meed you, that was not surprise, cnbc and cnn. when he's talking about the feedback loop, apparently cnn
has aired this -- a compilation of this opinion commentary that editors at sinclair, news reporters at sinclair, news anchors at sinclair that has a hundred plus markets in the country were asked and told to read. here's a little of that. >> but -- we are concerned about possible news stories in our country. >> so the president liked sinclair, he tweeted about this, he said their mott the fake news a lot of networks are. when your assaulted by the administration it's a badge of honor. do you think it's worth watching here sarah? >> i think the president is weighing in on the tone and tender of a media station, obviously it's not something we've seen from previous presidents. he's someone who cares deeply about how he's portrayed on the
news. he's going to jump in to defend an organization that had a tilt. >> supportive. right. >> i think, you know it's only natural he's coming to the defense of a networks that covers him favorably. >> we'll talk more about this in the show. i want to get to some other news happening in oklahoma. thousands of teachers has converged on the state capital demanding better pay for all state employees. hair yan that is there. mariana i understand this is just sort of picked up scene in the last couple of minutes. this is set to start 10:00 eastern time. give us some concepts of what led up to this. >> reporter: so, halle i want you to look at the scene behind me. buses started arriving minutes ago. you have hundreds of teachers that have just started a picket line around the capital building
here in oklahoma. demanding not only higher wages but also $200 million in funding for their schools, funding they say has been cut in the past decade. you not only have teachers here you also have state competency. you have families, children and parents saying i'm here for my teacher and for the state of oklahoma. i have two teachers here, melissa and randy. tell us about your own situations what brought you here? >> i've got go masters degrees and $164,000 in student loans. i have four job titles at u.s. grant affect about 650 hours a week. without any extra stipends from our salaries i make 36 thouds a area. >> reporter: do you have to get a second job to make ends meat? >> i do. identify also been teaching at a community college for nine years
to supplement my income. that income what is what laws me to spend money out of my pocket for my students. >> r. >> reporter: we see last week that wages were -- >> we don't have enough desks in our class rooms. our building was built for 1200 students we have 2,000. we have teachers that don't have a classes room they travel from room to rule. we need funding for our students, our supplies and our class rooms. >> outdated text books halle as you heard. teachers having two and three jobs. richard your case specifically, would you say you were inspired but wausau in virginia last month? >> i think inspired would be with too strong a word i'm optd misk. our problems go deeper than teacher pay.
i got 150 students and 50 text books. we have a building that was built for 1200 students and we have enrollment of 2200. it's not just teacher pay. i don't know what else west virginia was fighting for but for us it's stunndent funding a well. >> r. >> reporter: thank you so much richard and melissa. in west virginia they held out for about 10 days and they reached sort of what they were asking for, 5% pay raise. we're seeing it in kentucky, arizona, people here, especially the oklahoma education association saying they will continue to walk out until their disneyland are met. halle. >> mariana there in oklahoma city. thank you we'll check back with you later in the show. we also want to talk about former v.a. david shulkin, continue detecting lies about his exit. why it matters if he re-signs versus got fired. another member of the
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were you fired or did you resign? >> there was no reason why i would resign. >> so why not just say you were fired? >> well, i think that's the alternative to resignation. i received a phone call saying the president wanted to make a chang. that's certainly his prerogative to do that. >> so, the tweet fired you? >> yes. >> well, that is the now former
v.a. secretary david shulkin again denying the administration's claim that he resigned. add that to the turmoil cabinet this morning with the rumor that scott pruitt is on thin ice. he's under fire for report zli renting a $50 a night room in a capital condo. it was apparently linked to a lobbyist. first air blake joining me now. aaron you are writing about specifically this prosecuuitt c situation and what you call swampy as specks to it right? >> there are a if you remember of red flags. this was ang arrangism in which scott pruitt stayed in this condo, he only paid for nights in which he actually stayed there. there was 20 nights out of ever month. >> and he got approval? >> yes. the other aspect the condo was
owned by the wife of a prominent energy lobbyist, someone who represents exxon mobil, liquid fie gas company. this is are people pruitt are accepting deals from. the terms of the agreement seem to be very favorable based upon the neighborhood in which he was staying. >> example and -- >> yes and what's remarkable is somebody defended this to bloomberg being an air b enrique b type. >> why does that matter? >> for one it seeps like he has a lease on it. "the washington post" did some checking, he paid $50 a night. the average cost for a room in d.c. is $130. the price in this neighborhood for capitol hill is $130 a might
for one room. >> what is the dpa saying? >> they're saying there's no value and nothing to see here. >> here's the thing, add your headline to several others that have come out about scott pruitt. $105,000 on a flight. there are reasons the epa would come back and say, well these thing would be out of the norm. can pruitt survive this? >> i think it's going to be difficult. time and again wen we have seen cabinet members, david shulkin first came under scrutiny because of travel expenses. president trump as gotten dissatisfied quickly with the negative headlines and made the change. >> there's also the flip of that, he digs in and refuses to make the change a lot of peep
expect him to make. that was not the case with shul condition. i was in a briefing room asking questions about this when it was building up. let's get to the question on shulkin, resigned versus fired. hee making real clear he was fired by tweet. there's no other way to interpret his comments. it involves the reform acts of 1998, don't turn the channel stay with us. the bottom line is, if somebody dies or resigns, okay, so the bottom half, dies, resigns or is otherwise unable to perform the if y funks and duty then the president can assign a replacement. explain why this is important to this please of puzzle. >> it's all about the lining. it's not clear the president legally has the authority to do that if he was removed. the law says if a person dies or
fails to carry out his duties the president has the right to bring in someone else. if -- >> is this another misstep by the white house? >> well it seems bizarre they're making this case. if he was resigned why not show the letter he submitted resigning. >> pause shulkin is saying the letter doesn't exist. >> right. it'll be easy for them to put this to rest. >> this is about politics and personnel. at its core foundation it's about privatizing potentially the va, that is a really big deal. and there are questions about whether ron fee jackson can actually do that. rosa right. >> it's not something president trump has floated hummus and it's not something that's popular among republicans but there has always been a level of
conceptism about david shul cub. he was an obama administration hold over. there were people who wanted to see radical change or potentially more a political figure many that space. so, i do think that there was this mistrust between some of the other political appointees and shulkin that was never smoothed over. >> and ronnie jackson may have they're trust and may not, aaron. >> if you look at some of the reports put out they're not praising him. they're maybe paving a way for a change. i don't know, it's conspicuous they're not being more favorable. >> this is a no-win situation i think politically for the president or anybody whose in charge of the va. a massive bureaucracy, 360,000 employees -- >> with an important mission. >> right now there's going to be
a debate in the senate. the republicans doesn't toa to see about ronnie vaejackson. a lot of open questions there. >> aaron blake thanks for the kick cameo on the show. after the the break president trump set to speak at the warehouse. we expect that to happen maybe six minutes from now. you're looking live at the esther egg roll. when you see the president and first lady we'll take you there live. we also got wind the president announcing hee product over a crystal ally right before that meeting with kim jong-un. we'll talk about the last minute preps with the japanese prime minister. let's get started. show of hands. who wants customizable options chains?
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pennsylvania up to massachusetts with spring snowstorms. some flights have been cancelled but impact isn't too bad. >> a tiny station had made it back to earth's atmosphere. plunging downbursting into flames. a big relief. they did not know where it could crash. you could see falling debris the size of a school bus coming out of the sky. china lost communication with the station in 2016. and saks fifth avenue confirming a data breach. the group behind the hack may have been stealing information since last may. they have identified the issue and taken steps to contain it. new this morning, president trump just announced he'll host japan's prime minister at mar-a-largo to talk about north
korea and meetings can kip jong un in may. the relationship between u.s. and north korean has been falling out previously. hand hans these nuclear exercises have been starting and has been delayed. how significant is this. >> reporter: we haven't heard a protest from the north about these military operations. we've now completed two days of them. equally significant is there hasn't listen information from the u.s. side or north koreans about what's happening in these operations. no picture or video has been released. all that's significant is an apology. an apology from the north koreans to the srk yan's press. a, there wasn't an apology. b, he one talking to koreans and visiting there. that k-pop group was visiting on sunday, they were in town,
having a cultural exchange. an apology is significant because we just don't see that from the north, especially on the issue of media access. we've also heard today from the acting ambassador here in south korea, the u.s. ambassador saying he's hopeful. optimistic but also realistic. the key is this is when they hash out the agenda on wednesday, have de-nuclearization will be on the agenda. it's crucial on wednesday. we'll have another test on how serious the north is. halle. >> there's the sort of foreign policy, national security element of this. there's also the trade element of what's happening in the region. you've got china, whose a big player in all this when it comes to trade doing its own pit tat. this is something everybody worried about. now china's putting its own tariffs on the u.s. products.
walk us through why this is important. >> reporter: you talk about else escalation ladder and one side want to control that. now we're unclear about whether the u.s. controls the ladder in the case of tariffs. look at what that are targeting, pork items. that hitting crucial. 15% for fruits and wines. this is an effort by the chinese to indicate they're unhappen with what the u.s. is doing in terms of tariffs. i think the key question, you mentioned at summit going to be held japanese prince abe and from the trump. in the past, we know that the first round of sanctions, south korea got a reprevious. japan has not gotten reprieve. we'll look out at that summit to see if japan will have a carve out on the steel tariffs or whether they'll have a common ground. halle. >> hans when are you coming back
home? it feels like you've been overseas for two weeks. we misyou. >> all i know is wen i come back home i gain a day. it's almost tuesday here. >> save travels back my friend. appreciate it. joining me now is steve clemens, editor at large atlantic. let's talk about what was eluded to with prime minister abe and president trump. this is going to be happening april 17th and 18th at mar-a-largo. we'll be traveling down for that. what's behind that? >> japan wants to be very much in the mix that goes on with north korea. >> they don't want to see the ground. >> and additional they their security and our security joined at the hip with japan, they sort of feel, i think that donald trump is moving faster on north korea than they had anticipated and they have not been part of that conversation. the other thing borrow mar lar fwoe is abe was the first leader to go to mar-a-largo.
>> early administration. >> and they had the open sit room. you had communications going on while they were with donald trump. >> i remember the summit in mar-a-largo wen he was dropping that bomb on syria. >> that's right. so, they're back. i think abe, though, wants to make sure that they're in the room, they're not excluded from any direction. >> do you have any reservations about the potential meeting between kim jong-un and president trump particularly after the surprising meeting to beijing last week? >> i think what we just saw with kip jong un going for two hours with his sister, wife and others and watching k-pop. i don't know if you're a consideration-pop, i'm becoming a k-pop fan. this is a very well choreographed find of north and
south korea relations. what is china's game in this, i'm not sure yet. when you look at that, you ask the question what my concern is. my concern is i want to make sure donald trump understands all the strategic nuances and that when he sits down with kim jong-un, most of us don't think that they'll denuclearize. i want to know what the broader strategy is. >> let me bring that up. these are places, pork, fruit and nuts, these are sparkling wine for example, probably -- >> that's trump -- >> exactly that's in california. >> pork's iowa. >> so there's a political component for the president as well. >> there's a little bit of a political component. china is being restrained that's why you see the market shotguki
wean offer. credit we auction our debts and china is the biggest buyer of debt. if the chinese decided not to show up one day to a tee bill auction that will basically give an indication of how incredibly serious this is and they haven't done that yet. >> can i throw you a curveball on russia sin you're here? there's been questions about this and there had been some reporting that maybe this was happening. let me read you what sarah huckleby sanders, the white house press secretary is just now telling members of the media. she says, as the president hummus confirmed on march 20th, hours after his last call to president putin the two discussed a bilateral meeting in
the not too distance future at a number of venues including the white house but they have motion to add tip. it looks like this is also a summit up in the air about wen and where this will happen. >> we also know haven't was congratulated by the president on his election. we have a joint 21-nation response on the use of nerve gas against a russian double agent in the u.k. and that the united states has been trying to send jals with the compulsion of diplomats. the only one who doesn't seem to be taking the hard line is donald trump who's offering apparently a summit. nothing has proceeded yet because of the diplomatic compulsions on all sides of this e case. it is interesting. one wonders if you have a president whose no longer in line with his own department offenses, own state department, the u.s. congress on what our
posture on russia is then we have a confusing situation where russians are able to play one side of the other inside our government. >> do you think putin could come to mar-a-largo? >> i think why not. >> anything's possible. thank you very much. i want to take you over to the easter egg roll, any minute we expect to see trump come out and make a few remarks along with the first lady. we understand donald trump's children are there, donald trump jr., along with ex-wife va mene, they're kids as well. we'll bring that to you as soon as we get it in d.c.
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house easter egg roll. so many people, you know is supposed to be pouring, the weather. it was supposed to be rainy, nasty, cold and windy and look what we have, perfect weather. thank you all for being here folks. i want to really thank the first lady, melania, who has done an incredible job. she worked so hard on this event and so i want to thank you. it's beautiful. also, i want to thank the white house historical association and all of the people that work so hard with melania, with everybody to keep this incredible house or building, or what ever you want to call it, because there really is no name for it, it is special. and we keep it in tiptop shape. we call it sometimes tip pi top shape. it's a great great place.
it's an honor to have everybody on behalf of the trump family, many of whom are with us right here in the audience, i just want to thank you. this is a special year, our country is doing great. you look at that economy, you look at what's happening, nothing's ever easy put we have never had an economy like we had right now and we are going to make it bigger, better, stronger. our military is now at a level and will soon be at a level it's never been before. you see what's happening and what's happening with funding. the funding of our military was so important. so many military people are with us today. so, just think of $700 billion, because that's all going into our military this year. so, i want to thank you all for being here. the band unbelievable, i love you people, i hear 'em a lot they're as talented as anybody as any players anywhere so thank
you very much. now, i'm gung to come down and watch this roll. thank you all and have a great time. thank you. happy easter. thank you very much. >> president trump there speaking flanked by the first lady melania trump and the easter bunny at the white house annual easter rog. annual tradition. the white house hosting a lot of kids on the lawn. you're going to see him walk down the stairs and watch some of the kids playing. we saw the president 24 hours ago walking in a church for easter and that's why he was talking about daca. no mention obviously of any policy to do. the president keeps it pretty festive. so give me your hottest takes, easter egg rolls. go. >> i think last year this was a test of whether melania trump was going to be a traditional first lady. how involved chef going to be.
everything it's so horde to believe it was up in the air. now i think it's less lie mac tic this year. >> it's a happy tradition, one of several, along with things like the turkey pardon. it strikes me a little that the president is talking about the economy also the easter egg roll. >> guys, thank you much. we'll leave you with this live shot of the white house. you can see the band playing there. when we come back we're flash forwarding into the future. talking about a modern day technology to some. to others it is down right creepy. aalexa pod could be doing more than you think. talk about that next. who governed thousands... commanded armies...
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for us. gadi, what is this all about? >> well, these things have been flying off the shelves like crazy, but new patent applications show that they might start listening for a whole lot more than you think. this morning millions of americans are waking up and saying hello to their smart speaker. >> alexa, how many tablespoons are in 3/4 cup. >> products like echo, nicknamed alexa, and google home. >> okay, google, tell me about my day. >> the devices listen and respond when prompted. >> right now it's 70 degrees. >> answering questions and keeping to-do lists. but now tech giants may be looking to push their products even further, raising concerns about consumer privacy. >> alexa, order trash liners. >> and the potential for spying. >> and because alexa is in the cloud, she's always getting smarter and adding new features. >> first detailed in "the new york times," amazon and google have filed patent applications describing the possibilities of new technology with the capacity to be both incredible -- >> you have taken about 13,006
steps. >> and some fear troubling. one application from google shows the company considering a future where devices are monitoring and reporting household activities. what could devices monitor? >> hey, google, make it warmer. >> according to the application, pretty much everything. how often you and your family eat dinner together, how much power you use, even keeping an eye on your kids to report whether they are getting into, quote, mischief. >> alexa, party time. >> excellent. >> amazon seems to be planning on a time they can target specific ads by listening in on phone conversations. >> microphones help alexa hear you from any direction. >> a diagram in one patent application shows how they would determine a person's interest and use identified key words to push advertisements to you. >> we're living in this wild west of tech where we have these smart speakers where a.i. is the name of the game. it seems like someone is always listening and that's the price
we pay for a high-tech existence. >> critics argue it's nothing more than surveillance with the purpose of serving advertisers. in a statement amazon says in part we take privacy seriously and have built mlt layers of privacy into our echo devices. we do not use our customers' voice recordings for advertising. google tells nbc news we file patent applications on a variety of ideas our employees come up with. some of those ideas mature into real products and services, some don't. prospective product announcements should not be inferred from our patent applications. but in a high-tech world where concerns over privacy are becoming more common, questions remain, how much do we want companies to know about our private lives? >> and hallie, i do want to show you something. i want to show you what alexa is listening for right now. you can go on your app, if you've got alexa. here it is right here. you click on that little hamburger icon right here and
you're going to go into settings and then you're going to go all the way down into history. and this is everything you've ever told alexa. now, this is only when you trigger alexa by saying her name. just apologies for all the alexas that are going haywire right now. but this is the last thing that i said to alexa before i left. i'm going to play it. i'll hold this right next to my speaker. >> alexa. off. >> alexa, off. but you hear that other noise? that is me zipping up luggage to come out here. that shows how powerful those speakers are and i was in the other room, about 15 feet away from that speaker. hallie. >> that's comforting. gadi, thank you. gadi schwartz, ladies and gentlemen, appreciate it. joining our panel now a business reporter from "the new york times." her latest article is what gadi's piece was framed about titled, hey, alexa, what can you hear? and what will you do with it?
i sent your article to everybody that i know that has an alexa and said heads up, this is happening because it is sort of stunning when you look at what companies are trying to do. to be clear as you make the point in your piece, there's a lot of patent applications that get filed all the time for technology that might not be coming to fruition. so let's not get over our skis about it, right? >> right, of course. and i think that's so important to know that tech companies file lots of patents and a lot of them never come to fruition. but i think given the concerns that people have around privacy and how little we know around this new realm of voice data, they're worth paying attention to. >> you heard gadi read the statement in his piece from google and amazon talking about people's privacy concerns. but with all of the coverage about facebook and their privacy concerns and facebook scrapping their plans to come out with their own speaker, this is front and center for these folks. what are companies doing to a
assuage their concerns? >> i think they're trying to make it clear that right now the devices are only triggering when you intentionally press a button or say one of these wake words. but at the same time, no one really knows how they might be used in the future. and i think what's really interesting right now is we're paying more attention to who is providing these devices. for example, when you step back, you have to know google is the world's biggest seller of online advertising. if you're inviting a device into your home with this many microphones, it might be worth asking yourself what could it do one day. >> do you see more regulation coming down the road? >> that's something that a lot of people are talking about. it's interesting, there's a real reckoning going on in the advertising world. for the past few years many advertisers have come to believe that privacy is no longer a concern for many americans. they talk about this post-snowden era. but i think in the wake of the facebook revelations, there's a
real reckoning over whether that's actually true. >> thank you for joining us and talking through what must be one of the most sent-around pieces of the weekend. i appreciate it. it's always a pleasure to have you guys on set. up next, today's big picture. so that's the idea. what do you think? i don't like it. oh. nuh uh. yeah. ahhhhh. mm-mm. oh. yeah. ah. agh. d-d-d... no. hmmm. uh... huh. yeah. uh... huh. in business, there are a lot of ways to say no. thank you so much. thank you.
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