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that 17-year-old michael brown found out he was accepted to stanford university. it is the 12th -- it is the 20th elite university to say, yes, including all eight ivy league schools. michael has a 4.68, i didn't know that existed, gpa, perfect test scores, and a long list of extra click yar activities. this guys getting a full ride. he is the more than dream. congratulation michael, you got a big choice to make. i'm stephanie ruhle i'll see you ben with my partner ali vessel she. >> i got to tell you that's a nice problem to have to figure out which top school to go to. less than a mile there is a milestone in the russian investigation. first sentencing going down right now. it's a guy whose name might not
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sound so familiar, alexander vanderzwan. that's him. he also worked with paul manafort and rick gates. wile talk about what he learned today and what clues we might get on where robert mueller is going with all of this. we do know he's looking at collusion with documents saying he's focussing on paul manafort. we want to know who gave him the okay to go that route. we also got our eye on stocks after another day back in the red. the second quarter, initially the worse sense the great depression. worries about a trade war now. the president's fight with amazon, raising interest rates, making shaking occupy your 401 (k). we. we got our twitter alert set for anything new on scott pruitt.
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that's later in the show. starting with nbc's ken delaney whose outside of washington. explain who alexander vanderzwan is, what he's pleading guilty to. where he fits in to this thing and what comes next. >> reporter: alexander vanderzwan is a 34-year-old butch lawyer who was working on a project for the ukrainian government that was commissioned by paul manafort and rick gates. vanderzwan didn't have anything to do with the campaign but pled guilty to lying to investigator about what he had to do with gates and his work on the project. it was a project that was stated to white white house the jailing of a politician by the president of the united states who paid gates and manafort tens and millions of dollars of the year.
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gates is pleading guilty and corroborating, vanderzwan did not sign a cooperating agreement. that's a sign he didn't have much to say about the main focus investigation. this seems to be a message from mueller's office, do not lie to us or obstruct or investigation. >> what will we learn after the sentences sentences? what questions do you have directing the coverage after this? rorp there was a court filing in this case that talked about person a who vanderzwan was in connection with and connection with person a. he had ties on ongoing russian intelligence during 2016. this is a first confirmation that someone from the trump campaign was communicating with russian intelligence. what were they talking about? was the subject campaign interferen
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interference. that's an ongoing question. >> ken delaney thanks for staying with us outside of court. that sentencing is not the only new development in the mueller investigation, the government is fighting back with manafort after he asked for h documents to be thrown out. between vanderzwan and rick gates and this person a -- we know that person a is a russian intelligence officer. gates worked closely with paul manafort on the trump campaign and they all worked closely together on a report from ukrainian government. joining us from new york is tom winter. here in d.c. george. plus our panel for the next 56 minutes. katherine lucy, white house reporter. and amber.
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senior correspondent for politico. walk with us what you foe about this new filing coming out of the special council as it relates to paul manafort? >> what we learned in a motion filed after 11:00 p.m. and this is a government responding to manafort saying the indictment should be thrown out. the government said the appointment of mueller was completely lawful, so no issue with that. the government said the direction in the scope of his investigation is completely lawful and he's on track with that. to point to evidence on that, manafort has said, hey, what you're charging me with has nothing to do with russia and outside of the scope of the political interference and all occurred before 2014. thanks to this motion, we haven't heard about it before, on august 2nd of last year, rod
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rosenstein, the one who he is quarterbacking this investigation, he wrote that the acting tornado warning has specifically confirmed to the special counsel. and an august 2nd, 2016 memorandum, allege agriculturals that -- a crime arising -- of president victor within the scope of the counsel's special investigation. what they're saying they got the bleting from rod rosenstein to look into these specific payments as well as sposhl allegations. they're all allegations, manafort hasn't been in court. in this memo they're all referred to as allegations. allegations as to whether or not paul manafort was in some sort of russian interfoorns campaign that occurred in 2016. >> tom you'll ask you to stand by while i bring in jamil and katherine. jamil let me start with you, starting with rosenstein green
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lighting this. what do you make of that? >> it shows that he believed the scope of the investigation is broad enough to cover both collusion and the payments to ukraine. manafort argue look you can't go after the conclusion stuff in the proceeding. he's wrong about that. >> let's talk about vanderzwan who just walked into court, he's in there for his sentencing. what is the significance of his first sentencing? you heard ken, maybe this is a message from mueller saying do not lie to us. you see through the glass today, that's vanderzwan this morning getting through the detectors. >> he didn't just lie to the prosecutors, he deleted evidence. what's more interesting is he was asked to communicate by incrypted channels with this gru officer. so, vanderzwan maybe not a problem himself, but gates is.
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gates is -- so, they're gung to get gates and this whole intelligence officer through that cooperation agreement. >> gates was part of the conversation with this so-called person a. so, tom talk about person a, we foe this is somebody connected to the russian intel agency, right? >> that's right, halle. according to a previous filing they said they determined with the help of the agi agents that's assigned to the intelligence officer, robert mueller's officer that this person a who some believe based on the past evidence, if you will, might be konstantin, somebody who works for paul manafort or rick gates. nobody has confirmed that and the special officer is not commenting on who person a is. they're saying person a has ties to russian intelligence, specifically the gru. if beremember from congress and
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intelligence agency saying the gru was one of the players in the 2016 russian interference campaign. so, we have communications to ken's point that date back to september and october of 2016 between rick gates and this person a, whose tied to russian intelligence. the office of special counsel say some of though communications were tied to work that was done with this law enforcement, that brings us back to alexander vanderzwan because that's the if you remember he belongs to. the scope of this is something of interest to them and us. >> this is complicated stuff. there's a lot of names, titles, and positions. what we want to make sure we do is break down why this is significant, why this matters, why alexander vanderzwan is significant in his sentencing today. which essentially it's a warning from mueller not to law and the
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first sentencing we've seen in this mueller investigation, right? >> that's right. whether you're an attorney or small player in this, large player in this, don't lie, don't delete evident and if you do we're going to come after you. >> there's another piece of this too, we talk about the doj, katherine and anna i want to bring you in here. you have this from someone we don't normally hear from, the wife of the now former deputy fbi director joe mccabe. she's pushing back, she writes andresee involvement if the klein investigation came not only after contributions were made but after the race was over. since that news report there has been thousands more repeating the false allegations that there was some connection wean my campaign and my husband's role with the fbi. donald trump going after jill mccabe and andrew mccabe for this donation prior to all of
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this. i want to play for you a little on what the president himself have to stay about the wife of andrew mccabe. >> the man who is in charge of the investigation of hillary clinton accepted essentially from hillary clinton, $675,000 that wen to his wife. never happened before. never happened. not in this country's history. >> should mccabe go mr. president? >> well mccabe got more than $500,000 from essentially hillary clinton and is he investigating hillary clinton. >> so should he go? >> do you remember that anybody here, many of my speeches where i talked about mccabe, he was the star of my speeches. this is enough. i said a man who was more or less in charge of -- the wife got $500,000 from terry, now terry is hillary. >> all right. two years with the president going after jill mccabe, katherine with the fact check.
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>> this is the first time we've heard from her. she said her husband has lost his job she's free to speak. she lays out her story. she said she's an emergency room pediatrician. she was recruited to run for office around the time of medicaid expansion. they consulted ethics experts of the fbi, they tried to make very sure it was clear aspiration between her campaign and hi role. he was not directly involved with any of her campaigning. and she said this has been brutal for her family. they've really suffered. this is the first time we're hearing from her experience. >> it's basically jill mccabe unmuzzled. for months and months she's been hit by twitter. to fact check it, it wasn't hillary clinton cutting checks to the mccabe family or her con
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bugs. this was allies in virginia where she was running raising money for her. >> we're going to stick on this one. we want to bring you waver that is. i want to thank tom and jamil for being with us on what is again a busy morning. up next a new push on immigration for president trump. he's back to the hard line strategy some people love and others hate. the white house representing proposals for the rehab. what's the difference now? spoiler, maybe the midterms. but the challenge remains the same. and the generation may be different, but the color needs to endure. and the toughest stains come with their own rewards. we've re-engineered tide because no matter what life brings, our commitment to clean remains the same. now with 10x the cleaning power. tide, america's #1 detergent.
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in just a few hours from now we'll see president trump at a news conference and there's plenty to ask him about. he's miting with leaders of ball tic state to talk issues of russia. this could be a meeting of immigration. now, president's declaring an end to daca after democrats not letting daca stay here. he's repushing border approximate fprotection for his wall and threatening to pull out of trade deals. let's bring in nbc's jeff bennet at the white house. what's up with the second one on the policies that didn't cut it the second time around with congress? >> reporter: hey hally. the president is pushing what's said to be immigration loopholes
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and it appears it's aimed at backing up the president's tweets. the president writes, the big caravan from people of honduras coming from mexico had better be stopped before it gets there. cash cow nafta is in play and country that is allow this to happen, congress must act now. so white house officials are echoing the president's complaints that border agents hands are tied. they don't want undocumented immigrants coming from central america to have access to the u.s. court and asylum system. even though the senate has already overwhelmingly rejecting the trump framework that would have brought about an immigration deal, this appears to be a primary political cat trump play heading into the midterm elections as they try to pivot back to what seems to be a -- we expect to hear more from
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him in that press conference. >> what more do we know about that one, jeff? i know the president will be sitting down with these leaders in about two hours from now, right? >> yeah, we expect them to ask him to do more to deter russia. these are the biggest russia critics in the entire eu. i think they were rattled a bit. he questioned fay toe and unwilling to criticize vladimir putin vladimir putin. even though the -- you have president trump personally suggesting a meeting with the russian president vladimir putin. so we expect these leaders to get a berth sense, get petitioner clarity about the president's willingness to take a harder stance towards moscow. >> jeff, i'll see you at the white house in a little bit. associated press who i say court ericaly lucy and anna pam palmer
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are here. the president is going through there play book of playing up m immigration right now. why? >> he has been on a twitter scare for several days. attacked everything in sight from amazon to daca. congress is out right now so we're in a -- >> congress isn't on the hill. >> there isn't going to be a meeting on doaca. i'd proposed it'll be difficult for them to do anything before the election. >> over the the weekend he spent the weekend at mar-a-largo with his supporter, watching t.v. shows, dealing with this. we know he was frustrated with the spending bill that didn't include all the things he wanted on immigration and a border wall and he seeps to be lashing out. >> could that backfire? he's blaming the democrats. is that a risky strategy or does t play well with his base? >> a lot of his calculation is
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dealing with his base. this is an issue as he cares deeply have been. >> let me pull up this headline from "the wall street journal." immigration judges will start to be evaluated on how quickly they close cases. they're dealing with a huge backlog. does this have the potential to backfire here coming to this puzzle? >> i think member of congresss are not going to like quo tats. you have judges starting to clear their cases because of reviews based on this. >> so, does that make it harder for congress to come to some sort of a deal with daca if that's going to happen eventually? >> i don't know if this is necessarily -- >> no that's not the breaking point. >> with you look at what republicans want to be talking about, it is not immigration reform. they want to talk about taxes, more money in your pocketbook
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and having some sort of long debate. there's been no movement over the the last several months to bring them together on this for an actual deal to come together. >> there is not a story that's being brought up. the president is tweeting about it, the white house is holding background calls for reporters about this topic to push ideas. >> the warehouse did do this. >> they want to be talking about it. >> this is also something we've seen play out over the el palas year. the president want to talk about one thing and congress is not in step with him. >> allow does this play coming into the midterms? i feel like it's going to be upon us before we know it. will the president get out and be campaigning for some of these folks? it's my understanding there hadn't listen decisions made about who he going to back. >> clearly he played early in some of these prierps, mixed
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results. mike pence has always been doing examining behind the scenes. i expect you'll see them go into very red state territories. there are going to be some members in the white house and senate that may say hey thang or no thanks. you don't play well with majority of my state. >> we also foe that the president loves campaigning and he's going to be out there. >> hang on a bit. we want to keep up the administration news discussion. a live picture of what's happening at the epa building here in washington. in a couple of minutes we expect to see epa administrator scott pruitt behind that podium. he is speaking in a moment when he is incredibly em battled. reports he may be on his way out. reports of first it was the condo, now maybe the private jets. a live report coming up.
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we are back now with a look at your morning's headline. pa ner roe bread may have exposed personal information of its online customers for eight months on its website.
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the block says the data breach seems to include person information like names, addresses and last four digits of credit card info of millions of people who order things online. the chief operations said there's no evidence of payment card information nor a large number of records being accessed or retrieved. adding their investigation indicates fewer than 10,000 customers has been affected with the issue. the issue with the site has been resolved they say. the boy, 13 years old stuck in a suer pipe for 12 hours is speaking. jesse hernandez has been at a family celebration in l.a. when he fell 25 feet through that wooden plank into a drainage system full of water. another day if the spring, another day of severe weather all across the country.
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48 m 48 million people from texas up to pennsylvania are in danger of tornadoes. 13 million people under storm warning. let's talk markets, the big board, the dow up 70 points or so. not much progress after a big drop on monday with growing fear of the trade war with china. kate, what's bind the volatility we've seen? is trump bunk turning into trump slum, what do you make of it? >> it is all about tax and trade. the u.s. open high this tuesday but the dow's major average is still positive so far. yesterday it feel 169 points. the nasdaq and s&p 500 they all entered the day in correction territory, down 10% from the recent highs. the nasdaq is down since 2016.
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weakness and tech dot, conned about policy. president trump tweeting over the weekend that amazon was scamming the poe stall service and usps was losing thousands of dollars. he tweeted out amazon should pay these costs. yesterday, amazon down by 5% and broader techs followed suit, bernie sanders and warren has questioned the site of amazon. tech dot has been up over the last -- companies like facebook of course has been under fire over concerns of how they handle the data of the people who use their plat forms leading only some regulations may be heading into the tech space. facebook, amazon, netflix and google own -- global tech has
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got the market concern. china announces it'll be implemented new tariffs on fruit to meet. we'll have to see. >> cnbc's kate rogers. thank you. in a minute we're going to be hearing from a man at that podium. scott pruitt. the head of the epa is increasingly imbattled, facing more questions about his position, how he spends his money and decisions. first the report on politico, chbs chief of john kelly considering fooring pruitt. another, pruitt giving races to some sap serves. "new york times" who said pruitt rented a blow rate condo. and now "the washington post"
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saying epa released money temporary a private jet. plenty to discuss when it comes to scott pruitt who we expect to see any minute talking about this regulatory roll back from the epa. juliette you've been reported at the epa, look at this private jet lease. give us info on what you found. >> scot pruitt's practices have been under scrutiny for months now because of how much they cost. what we just reported yesterday is that he had raced the idea of leasing a private jet from net jets for $100,000 a month to accommodate his travel needs. now, some of his own top aids decided this wasn't a good idea. this came in close proximity about former secretary tom price who had to resign after taking expensive flights. they stuck with commercial
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travel although it's worth noting scott pruitt repeatedly traveled on first class last year, his aids said it was for security reasons. it cost tax payers close to $200,000 based on records we've collected under freeman act. >> and the epa's response here. walk through more of that. there has been push back. we here has gotten perspectiviperspectives on the condos saying this was allowed. >> sure. for his travel that was all approved in advance by epa officials. in regards for the condo rental that has come under scrutiny which you mentioned, there, there was a highry unusual arrangement with the wife of a lobbyist, herself is a lobbyist but don't lobby epa. jay steven haert have some
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clients that overlap with epa regulation. there he paid $50 a night for the nights only when he stayed in the apartment. and there, they got a ruling from the ethics officials in the epa only late last week after folks started inquiring about it. in other words, this wasn't approved ahead of time but once the press started calling they had a determination. scott pruitt moved out and they said, actually, this is okay. juliette i'm going to show on the screen here which is scott getting ready to speak on the epa. unfortunately it's not a wide shot but on one side there's a t.v. screen that says certainty, on the other side there's a t.v. screen that said jobs, which may be a sblimal message for somebody whose about to lose his
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job. we have a couple of sources telling us the president called the epa administrate scott pruitt la night. john kelly called him this morning. we are being told by one official this was to reinforce the president basically has pruitt's back. katherine, i know the ap is reporting similarly as well that this is sort of their pledge of allegiance to an epa head. >> yeah, that's right. i'm told the president specifically said, keep your head up, keet fighting, we got your back. kelly this morning expressed similar reassurances. so, for right now the white house is trying to circle the wagon. >> both of you used the phrase, circling the wagon around scott pruitt. he's talking policy not the drama that surrounds him at this point. if he mentions that we'll bring it to you when it happens. >> the reashurns from president
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trump about how secure his positions are has not been something necessarily you don't want to take as fact. i think the interesting thing is he's been very quick to toss a lot of people overboard. >> look at david shulkin who has been one of these people long speculated to leave and he did. the interesting thing about this event, as we get ready to see scott pruitt come out and talk about one of the roll backs here, epa has done a lot in inmenting what donald trump wants to do and what donald trump accompanied on. the epa has come out and done that. >> exactly. >> so he's doing what the president wants. >> that is exactly what i think i've been hearing. while there has been all these headlines and concerns about other thing, there's a lot of satisfaction with the policies he has been implementing, the regulations. that's kind of the split here,
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the policy versus the personal stuff. >> if you look at the people he's gotten rid of most rental whether it was shulkin or till ir son. those were officials that were not implements things as fast as the president wants. you look at gary cole even leaving. you have them trying to protect him because listen, thing are going very well. furr in trump ice camp about what tooth with the epa, secretary pruitt is dlufring. >> a lot of reporting wea've sen in different organizations. there have been questions raised about morale. how do you see that playing out? >> clearly the story to date about some aids getting raises through -- secured his way of trying to secure them after the white house said no, that does not make career officials or
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political appointees feel good. to be under constant skrut if i of what's next to drop. after the break we're talk more about walked call a teacher's revolt. juliette thank you for joining us there. we're going to ahead to oklahoma because this teacher revolt seems to be spreading. schools in several states has been closed. we're live where it's all going down after the break. en. i need my blood sugar to stay in control. i need to shave my a1c i'm always on call. an insulin that fits my schedule is key. ♪ tresiba® ready ♪ (announcer) tresiba® is used to control high blood sugar in adults with diabetes. don't use tresiba® to treat diabetic ketoacidosis, during episodes of low blood sugar, or if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. don't share needles or insulin pens. don't reuse needles. the most common side effect is low blood sugar, which may cause dizziness, swtiting, confusion, and headache. check your blood sugar. low blood sugar can be serious and may be life-threatening.
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right now thousands of teachers in oklahoma are staging another walk out, day two. the teachers want more school funding and more money. more than 30,000 teachers and supporters hit the state capital monday and are looking at similar numbers to date. some of the video from earlier, mariana is there live in oklahoma city. this is now your second day covering this. what are you seeing out there? what are teachers planning? >> reporter: teachers are chanting we want our funding and we will remember. the focus, halle today, yesterday was more outside with the 30,000 teachers, today it's more inside the oklahoma state capital. the balconies are full behind me. it's full of teachers with the ohm association. they have filled the galleries because they know legislatures
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are discussing the funding that they want. halle, they cannot believe 24 hours into this walk out nothing on education has been discussed or brought up to a vote. some of the educators here from public schools. what is your biggest frustration? >> they thought this would be one and done and that they're not going to listen to us. they think, we'll just be here for a couple of days and then we'll go away. >> reporter: what have you heard from legislatures, anything at all? >> well we haven't heard a lot from legislatures. away want them to fund us, we want them to hear us. we want them to know we're not going away. we're here to stay until they fund us. >> reporter: west virginia lasted ten days, teachers walk out in wfr. are you guys seeing what's happening in arizona, kentucky, are you motivated by it? >> we were encouraged by what happened in wfr. it gave us the excitement that
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maybe we can do the same thing. i have a cousin who teaches in arizona, i know they're watching us. we want to be an example to them on how to do it and do it right just how wfr was to t us and kentucky is. >> reporter: thank you so much. halle you heard it. they know arizona and kentucky is watching them. this is the first teacher wouk out in oklahoma since 1990. >> mariana, do you have any guidance on how long these teachers plan to keep this up? >> reporter: most of the educators we've been speaking to say they will keep it up as long as they have to. let's hear from them directly. very briefly, how long do you plan to walk out on the job? >> as long as it takes. we are here for the long haul. we want people to listen and we understand how the legislative process works and they will hear us. they have to. >> reporter: you heard it from them halle. we'll be here covering this
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story for as long as it takes to give these teachers a voice and seeing what legislatures have to say, halle. >> yeah. is that days, weeks, longer with these walk out happening. mariana ar tense ya there. want to thank you her. we want to bring you a special story. tomorrow will be 50 years since the killing of dr. martin luther king jr. a woman for the first time with her story on what she seen and heard. craig miller joins here. that story coming up after the break. fibromyalgia may be invisible to others, but my pain is real. fibromyalgia is thought to be caused by overactive nerves. lyrica is believed to calm these nerves. i'm glad my doctor prescribed lyrica. for some, lyrica delivers effective relief from moderate to even severe fibromyalgia pain, and improves function. lyrica may cause serious allergic reactions, suicidal thoughts or actions.
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. tomorrow marks 50 years since the assassination of dr. martin luther king jr. in memphis. this photo was taken moments after king was shot at the low rain hotel in 1968. five decades later a woman in this picture speaking out for the first time. my colleague craig miller sat down with her. an incredibly emotional story right? >> yes. good to see you. she kept silent all these years. the deeply personal and painful day it was for her. we met on the rights mutual in
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memphis which stands on the ground of the lorraine hotel. stood here before. where is dr. king? >> in front of the 306 there. >> reporter: up there? >> yeah. >> reporter: 1968, the photo the world would come to know. on the balcony of the loraine motel. the site of a gunshot. dr. king lies dying at their feet. a small crowd is seen gathered below. where are you in the picture? >> me right there. >> reporter: right there? >> yeah. >> reporter: the young woman in white is mary ellen, frozen in time, april 4th, 1968. it's a day she's only talked about with the closest of family members. until now.
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were you having a conversation with anyone? >> no, i was not. i was not. i was just standing there. in shock. >> reporter: witness number 43 then, mary ellen norwood. this memphis police report lists her as female, colored, 21. and employed as a waitress and cook. what was it like working here? >> i loved it. i did. i really loved it. >> reporter: walter and lori owned the motel. it was a prominent place to stay for artists like b.b. king. >> i got to see him every time. >> reporter: about the most famous guest of all, dr. king. drawn to memphis by striking sanitation workers. >> running around, get this room straightened up because dr. king is m ccoming. >> reporter: mary ellen caught glimpses of king as he came and
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went from the motel. at one point, delivering food to him and other civil rights leaders. >> hamburgers. they all had hamburgers. when i took the tray in, i set it on the table. he was laying on the bed. >> reporter: dr. king? >> yeah. smoking a cigarette because he smoked. >> reporter: on the evening of april 4th, mary ellen was cooking in the kitchen. >> at first, i thought it was firecrackers, you know. people shooting off firecrackers. then we all ran outside to see what was going on. he was laying on the balcony. i'm standing there, and i'm just dumbfounded, you know. shocked. what just happened? this don't happen here. you know, it's not -- okay. >> reporter: when you keep something bottled up for a half
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sche century, finally share it, it can be overwhelming. after all these years, you still get emotional. >> yes. i guess because i never even talked about it. because i get so emotional. >> reporter: what were people saying? >> just yelling. just yelling. you know, "they shot dr. king. they shot dr. king. somebody shot dr. king!" it's all you could hear. >> reporter: ms. mary ellen, did you know, when you saw him, immediately that he was dead? >> no, no. we didn't think he was gonna die. >> reporter: you didn't? >> no. >> reporter: why not? >> he can't. >> martin luther king jr. was killed tonight in memphis, tennessee. >> reporter: mary ellen stayed at the motel for three days after dr. king was killed. as the country's spotlight
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turned to the lorraine. >> just plugged up the lines because we kept getting called from reporters. even the pay phone on the outside, did dr. king get shot? did dr. king get shot? >> reporter: while she'll forever be there, standing in the blurry shadows of history, mary ellen chooses to remember a different moment. with the man that inspired so many. >> the thing that really stands out to me the most is seeing all these people sitting on the brick wall, waiting to get a glimpse of dr. king. >> reporter: when people knee he was going to be at the motel -- >> they were there. >> reporter: they would come. >> they'd come. >> reporter: just to see dr. king. >> just to see dr. king. >> hallie, mary ellen moved to lansing, michigan, a few months after dr. king was killed. one of the things that was most striking about all of this for me is, as you know, we live in a
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time where there are so many people who are trying to insert themselves into history and to events. here's a woman who would have been perfectly happy not having anyone know that she was there that fateful day. in fact, her own brother didn't know that she was even in the picture until four years ago. >> must have been incredible to sit and talk with her, craig. obviously, incredibly emotional, as well. >> it was. it was indeed, my friend. >> we'll see you tomorrow. we'll have more converage, of course, of the assassination of dr. martin luther king jr. later this afternoon, john lewis, the civil rights icon, the congressman, joins andrea mitchell to talk about his personal relationship with dr. king and the legacy he leaves behind. that's at noon eastern today on msnbc. don't miss it. we'll be right back with today's big picture. big deal. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats differently.
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we are back. ending, as always, with today's big picture. for it, we're heading down to san antonio, where another team from philadelphia is taking home a title. you are looking at the national champion villanova wildcats. just so happen to be my pick to win the championship. there they are, celebrating in a sea of confetti. taking down michigan last night. that's guard brunson holding the trophy. a bench player told the show. donte divincenzo, named the final four's most outstanding player, scored 31 points. the photo for "usa today." eagles, wildcats, sixers and fliers, you're next. my philly people, talk to me
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about it on facebook, twitter, snapchat and instagram. i'll see you tonight on "nightly news," reporting on the 20pruit fallout. for now, i'll turn it over to ali velshi and stephanie ruhle. only so many times the philly shoutout can happen. >> i was going to atalk about m infinity for philadelphia, but i thought you'd talk about jumping on the bandwagon. >> yeah. >> this was basketball, right? >> the one with the basket and the ball they shoot it into, yeah. >> i did pretty well on the bracket. i was just looking it up. >> so you know, you don't need to know anything. >> i did have nova. got to have that philly pride. >> you didn't need to know anything about basketball to do well in the brackets. happy tuesday. >> see ya, hallie. i'm villanova fan, ali velshi. >> i'm stephanie ruhle. it is tuesday, april 3rd. lets g let's get started. >> a lot of nervous eyes on w

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