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half running but it's done now. and secondly, the associateds are and "new york times" in the past 30 is seconds verified what was reported to us. the speaker of the house paul ryan will not be running for reelection. >> two big stories. >> that's yet another busy morning. >> yes, it is. >> and also two great books on the show this morning. on tomorrow's show, former secretary of defense, former director of the cia and former white house chief of staff leon panetta joins us onset. and the the big implications from paul ryan's announcement to retire. will the gop be looking for a new house speaker or perhaps a new minority leader. chris jansing has more coverage on that right now. >> i'm chris jansing. and as you just heard, two big breaking stories this morning. nbc news confirmed paul ryan will not run for reelection this fall. and president trump taking a
hard line on syria tweeting missiles will be coming. let's begin with capitol hill and the news about paul ryan. joining me now is garrett haake. we have seen this long line of people deciding not to run ag n again. >> no name bigger than paul ryan telling staff and frebs and others in congress recently he decided he will not seek reelection this year. this is a big blow to the republican party and their chances of holding on to the house in thov. ryan has been a prolific fundraiser and has despite how fractious the conference has been largely been able to hold them together on the big issues that they were able to accomplish this year. remember in the house, they passed their obamacare repeal bill. they passed the tax reform package. that was something ryan championed for a long time. while we haven't gotten the full
read out into his decision, tax reform has been an issue that has driven him to congress and driven him through his congressional career. to not seek reelection in wisconsin. ryan has been saying for months that this is a decision he makes every spring in an election year. he sits down with his family and he talks about whether or not he want os to give it one more go. the filing dead line in wisconsin is in early june. so we knew that this was a conversation that had to happen in the not too distant future. he made the decision not to serve another term in congress. et he has young children. this is not an easy job. especially as much fundraising work as ryan as done. a number of factors leading into this decision for the top house republican.
in the country announcing he will not seek reelection. >> incredible recording. thank you. let's go to casey hunt, also on capitol hill for us. i any think in the area we might be able to see the speaker. it's impossible to not look at this in the context of what's going on overall. you have a white house that's been chaotic. key positions remain unfilled. you have a house and senate when more and more people are deciding they can't get accomplished what they want to accomplish. but now as garrett pointed out. paul ryan, give us your sense of what's happening there. >> well, forgive me if i keep looking over my shoulder here because this is where you'll see typically or at least on a normal week this is where we see paul ryan come down the stairs to walk into this conference meeting. this is a usual conference meeting that's held every time the republicans come back from their weekend breaks.
this is an expected one. this was a conversation that had been ongoing and there were a number of rumors and i'm told he may be coming around the corner so i'm going to give you one second. >> i'm not resigning. >> so he said he's not resigning. that could be a reference to if he's not seeking reelection. we'll wait to see what he tells the conference here in a couple minutes. he does plan to not seek reelection when this reelection term comes up in november. this is a situation where paul ryan. was quite frankly somebody who was a reluctant member of this leadership team. he stepped into this job after being pushed to do it after it became clear he was the only person that would have the
votes. i don't want to never see my family. now the challenges for him in this job are impossible to overstate. it's become almost an impossible task to rangel the republican members of this conference. and for somebody like paul ryan who is very young, he's still early relatively in his political career dealing with president, an extraordinarily challenging task, this a bet on, hey, i have a family to worry about. i have three kids going to college and also perhaps i want to set myself up for something later on that will be more productive for my own political career paul ryan has struggled with how to relate to this president. he spoke out forcefully against him and found that there were
repercussions for that. came sort of back around on to president trump's team. and was defending him regularly. and we have seen that from the podium at press conference after press conference, him seeming to stand behind donald trump. people will say we didn't get the whole picture publicly that behind the scenes he was being a check on this president and he's not given enough credit for t t that. at the end of the day, this is significant shake up here in washington at a time when so much, as you pounted out, is totally uncertain. >> you'll be standing by the conference meet iing. we'll have reaction for us as the morning goes on. thank you for that. let me bring in evan bye, who served on the armed service committee. i us think by my count and i us could be off by a few, 24 house republicans have already announced that they were not going to run for reelection. but i think the word bomb shell does apply here. in terms of the impact this
uncertainty will have. >> i think so. i got to know paul a little bit while he was more junior member. i don't know he wanted this job to begin with. the conference had to come together. he was the only one who would have gotten the votes. you have your positives and high nuss. i think a big negative for running again is he won't be speaker again is the likely outcome. there won't be a republican speaker. and then you look at his family. he has young family and want. s to make sure they are put in college and make sure he's around his kids when they grow up. >> but you don't i think it's also the impossibility of doing what you had hoped to do as speaker of the house when you have the kind of situation in the white house you have. >> i met with him one -on-one briefing me on this plan to balance the budget. i remember it being a 60-year
plan. paul, i'll be be. dead. i wanted it to be more aggressive. but he understands economic impact. he had all these ideas. he's right. we have tried the left side. we can name all the presidents had them through the years. all the programs. where's the conservative program? paul wanted to do that. he wanted to have a conservative program and prove that conservative economic policy actually works. and i don't think he got a chance to do it. >> you're somebody who in 2010 you decided that you were going to step down. we have seen a long succession of people following you saying i'm frustrated. i can't get done what i want to get done. the hyper partisanship pales in 2010 to what it is now. what's your rerax to paul ryan's decision? >> i'm not surprised. paul ryan is a policy is won
account. he's a decent person. he's a family man. all three of those things argue for the step he just took. my first reaction is with the tax bill having passed,s that pretty clear signal that nothing else is is going to get done. the second thing is regardless of whether he loses the speakership or not, the the majority will be so narrow that caucus will be almost ungovernable. the institution is more and more partisan. his instincts aren't that way. and with these young kids, they only growup once. if he has to tolerate behavior, he's going to miss his family growing up, that argues for the step he took. >> kristen welker is standing by. what are you hearing? >> no official reaction yet, but i can tell you they are obviously tracking this quite closely. i would be surprised ifwet didn't get some type of statement or tweet in short
order. to pick up on a couple points, the significance of this can't be overstated including for the president's agenda. paul ryan obviously not only reluctant house speaker, but a reluctant trump supporter. and think about what happened during health care. there were a number of different tries to get health care passed. the president pointing the finger at paul ryan to some extent. and then fast forward to tax reform. ultimately they did get tax reform passed. and you saw these two leaders really mend not only their relationship but their working relationship move iing forward. important to point out that health care did pass in the house. so that mended relationship started at that point. but this has been difficult relationship at the very beginning. one that has come to a resolution. and the fact that paul ryan now not going to seek reelection i think raises real questions about how the president is going to move forward with his agenda. he's talked about things like
infrastructure reform, chris. there was a sense that that wasn't going to be realistic, but it's something paul ryan wanted to see happen as well. in terms of what we see from the president, when we might hear from him, later this morning he's signing a bill here at the white house and that will be a chance for reporters to ask him questions and then later this evening, chris, he's going to be having dinner with congressional leaders including with the house speaker. we were anticipating that syria and other issues would be at the forefront of those discussions, but now clearly the path forward, what happens without paul ryan in that position is what's going to be at the forefront now. >> i know you'll et get back to us if you hear anything officially. maybe the president will tweet about this. let me go back to garrett haake. the number is 22 retiring republicans, 5 resigning, put this in the context of 2018 for us. >> you might see more retirements after this. the ryan decision not to seek reelection does a couple things
to republicans' chances of keep ing the house. all of them bad. it makes his seat more competitive. they will have to find a new candidate in that seat. in the big picture, ryan has been an enormous fundraiser for the republican party. it's not to say he's not going to stop doing that, but it's impossible to be as effective as a retiring speaker than as the current speaker. and the second and maybe the bigger deal here is what it does psychically for republicans and democrats in how this gets spun. if democrats will try to paint this as the house republican's biggest leader says enough is enough, i'm going home. they will make the argument that's another reason to put democrats in charge. if somebody like paul ryan doesn't want to be here, democrats will say, maybe we should throw the rest of them out. you'll see democrats push on this aggressively. i do think potentially depending on how it plays out, could be dispiriting for republicans. especially those in ryan's
class. the romney small government republicans of which he was sort of the type will look around and say maybe this isn't my party anymore. if paul ryan is not sticking around with everything that comes from being speaker, why should i. i think it could potentially have significant ripple effects into 2018 and i think we'll start to see that over the next couple weeks. we're going to hit filing dead laines relatively soon. >> the phone lines are burning up at the rnc and dnc and elsewhere. thank you for that. on this businey morning, we hav another big breaking story. president trump just telegraphed exactly what the u.s. military is poised to do in syria and he did it in a tweet with a serious snub to russia on top. russia
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his people skpen joys it. we have assembled a team of reporters and experts to unpack that warning. hauns nichols, what are you hearing about the threats and the timing potentially? >> on the timing, nothing app r appears elm innocent here at the pentagon. i spoke with several officials this morning who say they won't preview future military action the way the president did. but normally the signals we get here at the pentagon b before a strike were not getting those same signals. things can change in an instant. things are quiet until they are not. it does appear that tweet took senior officials here at the pentagon by surprise. they didn't appear to have had advanced warning on this. i think the thing we need to look for in the next 24 hours is what comes back from the organization for the prohibition of chemical weapons. they have sent a team into
douma. and crucial to the next steps here will be what their findings are. was it seran gas? they are both banned under treaties. it's considered a weapon of mass destruction. and it does appear the threshold in the triggers taking secretary mattis's own words are higher. in the past he said if they use chemical weapons, he's fudged it. mattis has not been explicitly clear if he make this is distinction. but he said there will be severe consequences. in terms of assets, there's the destroyer in the eastern mediterranean. and today leaving is a carrier striker. >> there's just ts one in the eastern. there are four total destroyers in the six fleet. that's the area of operation. some of those are in port and
some are in the atlantic. so on the other side leaving today is a carrier strike group that has an additional seven destroyers. that takes a few days to steam across the atlantic. but when you look at what those destroyers can do, they can fire off the tomahawks. that's what the trump is saying are smart and. can get through syrian defenses. syria has a system that russia has. it didn't work last time knocking down the tomahawks in april of 2017. unclear if it would work this time. they have other assets. don't forget they are prosecuting a war in eastern syria bringing in a lot and flying those out from bases further south in the middle east. >> thank you for that. let's go back to the white house. kristin welker still standing by. the president went on a lament this morning about the u.s. relationship with russia. i'm quoting here. our relationship with russia is worse now that be it has ever been. that includes the cold war.
there's no reason for this. russia needs us to help with their economy. something that would be very easy to do and et we need all nations to work together to stop the arms race. what are you hearing about this tone against russia? >> new tone against russia. we're hearing president trump really ratchet up the rhetoric. moments ago he tweeted something that complicates the message that you just read. let me read that and
try to unpack it. the president tweeting much of the bad blood with russia is caused by the fake and corrupt russia investigation headed up by the all democrat loyal iistsr people that worked for obama. mueller is most con flicked of all except rosenstein, to collusion, so they go crazy. so in essence, pointing the finger back at the russia investigation. obviously, he has been taking aim at that on a daily basis this week in the wake of the raid of the offices of his private attorney michael cohen.
but it's significant because the united states message towards russia broadly is you can't meddle in the u.s. election. stop. propping up assad. we heard that very firmly from the u.n. yesterday. we heard that president trump privately talking to his administration officials has been somewhat reluctant to take a tough tone and frankly to take strong action against russia bauz because he thinks they are critical on working on international crises. but in this instance in the wake of this chemical weapons attack, there's no doubt that the united states is poised to not only take very firm action, but to take a strang stand against russia, which is seen as propping up assad and now launching that new round of threats that you just talked about. >> let me bring in my panel. terrorism sbils malcolm nance. evan bye is still here. you spent 20 years in the navy
focusing on intelligence. is there any military advantage to tweeting objeut your plans t the enemy? >> the tirs time i participated in an airstrike on syria was 1983. i have done that mission for over 20 years. and it's not a hard place to strike. but you have to be committed in what you're going to do when you do it. last year with the strike, we pocketed the runway and blew up very old aircraft and did not strike the chemical weapons at all that were there. but the president transmitting his punch today he's trying to look strong, but i often wonder whether he's trying to give russia an opportunity to come in and save him. if we are committing our armed forces too doing this, the men and women who have to fly strike missions into seethe yarsyria, russia is serious about their threat of striking back any position that launches weapons on them, we could go into a regional war that we didn't want to have to go into with an
adversary. they have some cape bability, b the president is not helping with his tweets. >> you sit on the armed services committee. there are many obviously problems with this. but one is that the potential of this escalating is big. once you send in bombers and fighters. the chance is possible that you lose a pilot. there you go. you're escalating the situation. and you would think at least from what he said in the past this goes against the president's instincts, which are not to get. in too deep. what do you see happening here? >> there seems to be an meeleme of strategic and tactical confusion. when the president said we're out of syria and out soon, that
took away the ability to stabilize for the long-term. now tactically, telegraphing your punch, you'd never do that soort of thing. the president understood that running for office saying i will never do such a thing. now he has. my guess is rather than saying that the russia investigation is conflated this with our relationship with russia, it's conflating it in the president's mind. these two things are coming together influencing each other. the last thing i would say is i think the ryan announcement is significant. because it may free up paul ryan as a speaker to take a different tact if the president fires rod rosenstein. that's the real conflation that i think makes sense this morning. >> here's something he tweeted. why do we keep broadcasting when
we are going to attack syria. why can't we be quiet and catch them by surprise. and yet look at what we see today. >> trump criticizing obama about withdrawal proposals, why are we telling them when we are going to leave. and that's what is surprising to me. the pentagon is reporting that they were taken by surprise. or it seems when the president speaks, as he has done now, he's now committed to the united states. he's drawn a red line. we have to act on that. because the whole world is watching this. but it's very striking to me the pentagon would say they were surprised by this tweet and they were taken off guard. >> do any of all of these things play into this? you have someone who is conce
concerned to be a force on the president. she's dwoen. in a normal situation a key player would be the secretary of state. secretary of state is gone. you have now john bolton coming in. how does that change the equation? >> it leaves the president more dependent on his gut instincts. it's one thing to run a real estate company spontaneously, but as my experience in the armed services committee told me, the world is a complicated, dangerous place. you can't run it by yourself. you can't know everything. so any president particularly one without deep experience in national security matters needs a solid team around him or her. and unfortunately that's kind of falling away from this president leaving him floundering a little bit. >> we have these reports that russia has been jamming u.s. military drones. ben sass had this to say.
it's insane to think russia is an adversary. putin is raging a shadow war. but too many politicians are asleep on the watch. is he right? >> he's absolutely right. >> my niece was off in the strike group. it is not a benign ground air and sea environment anymore. especially now talking about the eastern mediterranean. this jamming that's going on there, even though it's jamming our drones, and not our large scale ones like global hawk. if if we have to do search and rescue in the next 48 hours, they are jamming all of the intelligence support systems we're going to have in place. the russians will not allow us to penetrate that air space without an electronic environment not conducive to our rescue missions. so if a pilot goes down, we're going to have to send out special operations forces into an environment where they can cause another incident. these things are etc. ka la t r
tour. and there's almost no difference in war fighting between jamming and fighting a missile because we have to put down a missile to stop the jamming. this could easily spiral out of control, but we are allowing it to occur because the president has the schizophrenic policy on syria. >> gentlemen, thank you so much. and up next, the new reports again new reports that president trump tried for a second time to fire robert mueller late last year in spite of white house insistence. does the president have the authority to do that? and mark zuckerberg is set to testify on capitol hill less than an hour from now 37 seth meyers had this observation about the fist day of testimony. >> facebook founder mark zuckerberg testified before a joint senate kmers committee today in front of a bunch of people whose password is definitely password.
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that's just one of the breaking story this is morning. >> we're looking at a drop of 200 points. the futures are a gauge of where we're going to go. we went tr fears of a trade war last week to fears of a war war today. when the president tweeting out that the trade war stuff not off the table. i understand the president of china came out with some sort of demered comments. he said those things before. and that doesn't change our stance right now. we had a big day yesterday. it's looking like we're going right back down. >> brian, thank you so much. down 200 now. the white house insisting that the president does have the power to fire robert mueller if he chooses to do so. we know the president has been enraged over the fbi raid on his attorney's home and office. . on monday he publicly discussed
firing robert mueller saying, quote, many people had encour e encouraged him to do so. and on tuesday the white house made it clear he believes he has the authority to follow through. >> i know a number of individuals in the legal community and including at the department of justice that he has the power to do so. but i don't have any further announcements. >> now reporting that multiple sources close to the the president tell them that mueller has, quote, passed a breaking point. democrats say legislation is necessary to protect mueller's job, but many republicans disagree. arguing that the president will ultimately see reason. >> the president is too smart to fire mr. mueller. >> if he did, it wouldn't end the investigation. it would be suicide for the president to want to talk about firing mueller. >> removing mueller creates more problems. >> that would be the beginning
and end of his presidency and he's not going to do that. >> but there's another aspect of this that's important to remember. the seizure of michael cohen's records was not carried out by the special counsel. it was carried out by the attorney of the southern district of new york. even if the president were to fire robert mueller, that investigation goes on. i want to bring in matt miller, former spokesperson for the justice department. let's start with some clarity. since the white house seems to disagree with so many people on this, does the president have the power to fire robert mueller? >> he doesn't have the power to personally fire him. under the regulations, he can only be fired by the acting attorney general. he can only be fired for cause, not because the president is angry baa bust he committed an egregious act in office. even if it et he tries to use his authority to remove him, there's ample precedent that only the official who appointed
him has the authority to remove him. so he could try to force a crisis that might end up in court, but he personally does not have the authority to fire him. he would have to do what noixon did and order someone at the justice department to carry out that order. it they did not carry out that order, as i expect rosenstein would not, they might resign. an order that is obviously designed to obstruct justice. >> the other thing i want to pick up on the conversation we were having in the beginning about the president's tweets and about his threats. you tweeted that having the authorities close in on trump at the same time as this international crisis is heating up, quote, a doomsday scenario. god help us. how worried are you? >> the concern of a lot of people who see a president who is not a rational actor. and on his worst days does
things because driven by emotion and fear and seems to be if you look at his performance in two nights ago in front of the national security staff and the generals where he seemed rattled by the raid on michael cohen's office. et he seemed afraid of what was going to happen in the investigation. the reports are that he's considering lashing out. if you see his tweets, these are not the actions of a stable person. when you consider he's the person who controls the ability to launch missile strikes to go to war, you have to ask the very serious question and the very concerning question of whether he's always acting rationally. >> many of them are saying, lack, the president knows, he's been warned, he's not going to do this. my question is really? are they that certain that the president would not attempt to fire robert mueller to get him out? >> they are trying to say please don't do this because i don't want to have to do something
about it. the reason is is i think he might be right on the legal aspect. >> there's bipartisan compromise. the word is there's a deal and they would have to wait ten days and a review. >> they are not going to pass law to protect the special counsel. this is the same that won't pass authority to act on regime that gassed children. these guys have no guts. >> are they just hoping or do they really believe he won't do it? >> one way or another, the president is going to fire mueller. the reaction from congress is going to be this. shoulder shrug. that's it. that's what's going to happen. >> you think the members of the u.s. senate -- you're an attorney as well. let's just say that if robert mueller would go away. you have the investigation not stop. the people doing this investigation day-to-day will continue to do this and now you have the u.s. attorney in the
southern district going on this. it's not as though -- is this beyond the president's power to obtain it. >> it is. not only do you have the southern district of new york now involved, so you have mul multiple investigations you also have the state attorney general. and the president's pardon power can't even remove criminal potential vulnerability from somebody who committed a state violation. so one way or another, this is going to go on. and my guess is the president i don't think he will do this, but he should learn from bill clinton's experience and john edwards' experience. if all this is marital infidelity, he should go on national television, apologize for his personal behavior and say it was a personal weakness. but it didn't harm all of you. that really is what he should do. it there's something deeper he's concerned about, then he will fight it to the bitter end and
we'll have a constitutional crisis. >> we went through this with the star report. ufs a young reporter then. this is a report that's going to take down the president and it turned out to be about sex. so now we have the search warrants executed with the president had an affair with a play boyer model and porn star. >> more and more this is looking like a mobster roll up of the type of mueller's team of ace prosecutors previously specialized in. in the beginning the fed's target one or two low level insiders and hopefully get them to cooperate with the government. gradually the investigators work their way up the chain of command to the crew captains, and eventually to the boss. what do you make of that assessment? >> it's right. it's what mueller has done. if you want to draw the parallel, mike flynn and paul manafort, the people senior and
michael cohen. i want to say something about the last discussion. this investigation would go on even if mueller is fired. in any rational world and the department of justice is behaving as it normally does, that would be true. but the president is not firing prosecutors to try to end investigations. i don't think we can assume that would be the case here. if he were to take a step as the acting attorney general who would end this investigation, there's no reason to assume that the same time that person fired robert mueller that he or she wouldn't order the investigation shut down. even could disz miss indictments. that is a hard step to imagine. but when you get to the set marry owe where you're firing a prosecutor with no cause to try to end the investigation, i don't think et we should assume steps like that are off the table. >> i could get in that beach house. >> so much going on today. day two of mark zuckerberg's
hearing set to begin minutes from now. he aarrived moments ago. also paul ryan confirming he will not seek reelection this fall. we'll hear from him. . his top aid released a statement that reads in part, after nearly 20 years in the house, the speaker is proud of all that's been accomplished and ready to devote his time to being a husband and father. we'll be right back.
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the past. in addition to that, we know they are looking into some other aspects of his business. so this is a pretty large investigation. stormy daniels is focused on the things she would know about chrks is this payment we have been talking about as well as the nondisclosure agreement. >> her and the two other women, it's about credibility. these things happened awhile ago. is there testimony? does that jive with the kind of paperwork they are seeing. >> does it lead to other sorts of agreements they may want to look at. the other thing it can happen with is was there something different in this specific transaction just a few weeks before the election. were there other payments and set ups in the past that were different. was something done this time to go toward an election fraud crime or go toward et we heard possible allegations of bank fraud, possible allegations tied to financial irregularities.
those are some of the things investigators are going to look at. what was done in the past. was there something different as it relates to stormy daniels and does that yield a crime. just because somebody has a search warrant executed doesn't mean they committed a crime. that's something that we're going to have to find out in the coming weeks and months whether or not michael cohen ends up being arrested. >> one of our team of investigative reporters who have been doing incredible around the clock work, thank you. >> mark zuckerberg arriving on capitol hill for day two of his testimony. the facebook founder seemed to handle questions pretty well yesterday. but will it be a different story when house lawmakers get him? a preview, after the break.
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highly anticipated testimony on capitol hill. this time it is house members with their chance to get more detailed answers than senators were able to get in five hours of questioning yesterday. here are a few key moments from tuesday's hearing. >> we didn't take a broad enough view of our responsibility and that was a big mistake. it was my mistake. and i'm sorry. >> how do you sustain a business model in which users don't pay for your service? >> senator, we run ads. >> i see. >> so there was a decision made on that basis not to inform the users, is that correct? >> that's my understanding, yes? >> okay. >> and in retrospect i think that was a mistake and knowing what we know now we should have handled a lot of things differently. >> i say this gently. you're user agreement sucks. >> that's about as tough as it got. here's my panel to discuss this.
mar vet, if he was your client, how would you great him? >> he got an a plus. he did a great job. he knew he was going into this with some trust issues that consumers had lost a bit of trust. often many people calling it facebook. but he really restored trust by being humble, by coming across as authentic, answering the questions, being calm, cool, and collected. he really restored a lot of confidence in his testimony yesterday. >> there's no doubt about that, in fact wall street reacted i think his net worth personally jumped about $3 billion. and the way he did it was there were a lot of, well, i'll get back to you on that answers. what does the house need to do that the senate didn't, or do you feel the senate did a good job? >> no, i don't think he did a good job, i think did he fine. if you're grading on a curve it's because the senators got an "f" so he looks fantastic in comparison.
he was his typical self. i don't think he yielded much, i don't think he said anything. >> i can just stop you there, five hours of testimony and what did we really learn? >> nothing. we learned nothing except that he'll get back to us, his team will get back to us at some point. it was -- you know, i was saying it this morning when i was on the today show, i was like this is like getting batted around by soft pillows by these senators. it was a hugely unimpressive performance by them and he looked good in comparison. and he managed to fend them off and say almost nothing at all, in fact, except maybe that mule her contacted them. but that's not a surprise. he didn't give any details of any of the issues that are very critical, which i think say success for people who work for him. but i don't think it's a success for the american people. >> i think there are two levels of this clearly. one is the legal part of it, i thought after watching this yesterday his lawyers are celebrating because clearly that prep that they did where they said don't say anymore than you absolutely have to, he did a lot
of yes, no answers. he did a lot of i will get back to you. i'd be happy to get my team get back to you i'll get on it. the other part is your area of expertise and that's pr. the number of people who are backing off of facebook, trying hard to get off of facebook, although there's a lot of indication out there that that can be a little more difficult than they thought it might be. more of the same today, that's what you would tell him if you were advising him? >> absolutely. to her point they didn't ask the right questions. >> do you think people are buying this, though? >> they didn't ask the right questions so they aren't clearly azt as tech savvy as they need to be. he was well prepared and accepted response ability for where facebook fell short and he's clearly the most powerful man in the world, let's be clear about that. his platforms between instagram and facebook have the audience and really control the greatest currency in the world and that is people. so more so than even our
government or any government in the world, he has people's attention. and that's why they target facebook and that's why they target his platforms. we saw leadership from mark zuckerberg and we'll see leadership from mark zuckerberged it. >> well, you can argue about whether leadership should incleed being able to say what you're going to do differently. dick durbin took an kpran inter approach. let me playa that. >> would you be comfortable sharing with you the name of the hotel you stayed in last night? >> um, no. >> i think that may be what this is all about, your right to privacy, and how much you give the limits of your right to privacy and how much you give away. >> dick durbin clearly made his point that a lot of people
understand. it was a made for tv moment but it d it accomplish anything. >> showed that he could be flustered if asked the proper questions. he could easily be if he didn't have to stick to his talking points. he said i'm sorry, he should be sorry, he mismanaged the situation. he allowed a foreign country to abuse his platform. he gave away information of people's private information. i don't know if i'm sorry's enough. i want to know what happened, how it happened, how he's going to manage it in the future and how he's going to prevent it in the future. so saying i'm sorry is such a -- such an easy and low bar for ceos to meet. it's got to be more than i'm sorry as far as i'm concerned. but, you know, i guess i have higher standards that's the congress of the united states. >> let's see if the house raises the barred it. thank you. also on capitol hill just minutes from now house speaker paul ryan set to hold a news conference after ryan's top aid confirmed he will not seek re-election this fall. president trump tweeting just moments ago speaker ryan is a truly good man and while he will not be seeking re-election, he
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