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even throwing shade on the new book. the interview is set too tonight. >> we're done, we're no longer that group in america that is a part from the part sans and that can be trusted. weaver just another player in the tribal battle. >> joining me is jeff bennett. kevin sirilli is also with us. jeff, first of all, just about the president as attitude toward this book. how much do you think this is weighing on president trump, as he awaits the publication tuesday or this interview scheduled tonight? >> well, just from the eight tweets alone, david, you can get a sense of the president's rage, the fact that he is seething over this. we know, based on the early excerpts from the book that james comey paints an unflattering picture of the and his inner circle.
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he suggests that the president is daft, out of his depth, he points to the meeting that he had with the president, where the president says in many ways asked him for a loyalty pledge, a pledge that comey refused to give. anticipation for this book is high. we know it's a best-seller based on pre-orders alone, so the president, who is among other things very media savvy, knows that james comey is going to dominate the headlines. in many ways he's trying to cut him off at the pass here. today the tweets and comments from sarah sanders was a pre-buttal. >> and offense some potential blushes for the paperback edition, i think. ever rempsed the tweet moments ago -- i never asked comey for personal loyalty. i hardly ever knew this guy. just another of his many lies.
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his memos are self-serving and fake. >> what's your thoughts, conference, what do we stand to learn about that relationship in particular between the now former director and president trump? >> there's no question that in a broader context this is unprecedented, we should note that, that you have these two institutional powers going head to head. quite frankly so publicly. point number one. point number two, you talk to sources inside the white house, and you take a step back here, and we should note there's a well-orchestrated response coming not only from the white house, but also from the republican national committee about how to combat this. quite frankly they had their practice with michael wolfe's book "fire and fury." this is a well-oiled machine at this point to go after it. the last point i would make is let's be blunt. james comey faced criticism from
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democrats just over a year ago right before the election day with what his decision was with regards to hillary clinton. there were many democrats, david, as you know, who were very critical of james comey, and now he's facing the fire and fury from president trump. >> i'm going to read a bit from the book. if one excerpt -- a world-class fbi team had investigated hillary clinton appeared to a person they boulevard there was no prosecutable case. calling for a special prosecutor would wrongly imply that there was something wrong to the case, which would drab on for many months, if not longer. >> what do you think about, we're interested in learning from james comey, what is the response to what he's had to say about that investigation, that matter, i division i should use
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in that particular. >> you heard from sarah sanders and the president trump himself on twitter, because comb write was influenced by the pollsing, that colored the way he handled the investigation. the president today suggested that comey was easy on clinton, because he want add job in her administration, and he ended that tweet by calling comey a slimeball, david, which is pretty choice words from the president. >> he talk about polling this morning in a teak, references a rasmussen poll. there was an exchange between him and george stephanopoulos, i want to bring that you will about the political cauldron in which all this occurred. i think this book is designed to get a bers sense of james comey, and he has seemed like a pretty
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lonely man, standing alone for many months. >> he also loves the media attention. in terms of poll, candidate donald trump would carry polls in his pocket of his jacket, the latest polls, and happily tell reporters the ones that he was up in and focusing on, so polling is very important to this president, almost as important as what the stock market is doing. look, but i would just note that james, comey, look, he's going to talk, have this book, but at the end of the day, the thing that matters is the conclusion of bob mueller's investigation, and with all due respect to mr. comey, he's no longer a factor in the conclusion of where this investigation is headed. ultimately the results of that investigation and what that yields or doesn't yield is really what this administration is focusing on. again, it is just, what, 48 hours since a syria missile strike that this add mrgsz
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wording in counterpart with the uk and france on. >> i wonder if you agree with kevin there, when we learned of the contemporaneous memos, what color are we getting from this book, likely to get from this book as we look at the way that robert mueller is proceeding. >> if you look -- if you go back in history, fbi directors and presidents have so often tried to maintain a discrete distance. and so when james comey accuses the president of asking for this loyalty pledge and suggesting that the president, as we know this to be true, so many of his relationships to be transactional, so in that meeting comey is painting a picture of, hey, if you want to keep that job, what what are you going to do for me, that in itselves is alarming, and the
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piece that's looking at the obstruction of justice. in many ways that would be the most damaging and damning part once it's released on tuesday. >> once that wee about slippery james comey, a man who always ends up badly and out of whack, i guess good news here for both mr. hoover and bob mueller, as well as president trump is saying the worse is james comey. thanks to both of you. joining me now is michelle goldberg a "new york times" columnist. you're making your way through this book as well. how do you see it as an object. he talks about a leadership tome, a history, a memoir, how due view this 2k0u789? >> there's an structure structure to the book, it really is a memoir. it's not just about his experiences with hillary clinton and donald trump, but also his experiences with the debate over torture in the george w. bush
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administration, and pretty substantially about his experiences with the mob, which gives it a symmetry, right? he creates this narrative about what it's like to try to take apart, you know, cosa nostra, and try to get people to break through this these like, and then you describe it as he start to describe it among trump and his cronies, as he talks about the relationship with patrick fitzgerald, and involved in the scooter libby prosecution, scooter libby pardoned by the president this week. >> there's this strange feeling of just like how, i can't believe that character back back for this season. >> well put for sure. >> a lot of this is about rehabilitation, the way james comey is trying to settle his
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reputation. what is your sense of that? is he able to make the claim successfully, he was a man in a difficult position, particularly when it comes to hillary clinton's e-mails? >> i think that -- i think that he is a almost tragic figure, right? he is a man striving for decency, who had certain flawing and blind spots that led to the election of the most indecent possible president, right? i think he made some real mistakes. part of the mistakes he made is he did fetishized his own bipartisanism. he was afraid of any attacks on the fbi, and because of that he was responsive to this asymmetric polarization between the two parties. he knew that any appearance of favoritism toward hillary clinton, even if the
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underlying policies justified it, was going to lead the right to go berserk. there wasn't a counterveiling pressure on the left, as you see the post election conversations, chuck schumer is telling him you were in a tough spot. so he's more responsive than i think hi realizes to right-wring pressure, because he's worried about what they'll do to the fbi and its reputation if he's seen in every kay to not have done everything possible. >> there's a strangeness to james comey -- i don't mean that in a disparaging way, but he writes about his relationship to president obama and president trump, and you almost sense an unease, as he finds himself more simpatico to president obama, how president obama has a sense of humor, he laughs, he smiles. later he talks about president trump being relatively humorous.
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>> and these are both sort of singular philosophically inclined men, and men of great personal decency and integrity. i don't think there's any question about that with james comey. so, you know, i think he reese acts against trump who is the opposite of those things on a visceral level. you can see in trump's tweets today -- there is things that comey did that were wrong, but trump fundamentally doesn't understand the idea that comey was too hard on hillary, his idea that the only reason that comey could have taken polling into account is he somehow want to do curry favor with hillary clinton, where really the opposite is the case. there were sweeping statements about the state of economy, how much resonance do you think they'll have in you talk about his innate sentence of -- he was going to serve a ten-year term. the fbi director has a ten-year
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term, so he can't be swayed. how much do you think that will resonate? >> you know, in? ways everyone is so dug in that it's hard to see how much people sway one way or the other, but again, his sense -- i want to say this, whether or not this is about personal rehabilitation, i would say that any person of decency or patriotism, who leaves this forest fire, as comey calls it, of an administration actually has a duty to tell us what they saw there. whether or not there are self-serving motives, i think it was his responsibility to write it. you know, for a lot of people, obviously his description of just how terrible this administration is, will resonate, and you see republicans going to like extreme lengths to try to paint comey as some kind of democratic partisan, which is absurd given both his own politics and his own history.
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the thing that i this will resonate is you have comey, who knows from mob bosses, talking about how trump is like a kind of mafia don, at the same time that trump's thuggish consmike cohen, it's an image of utter sleaze and corruption. >> it's like a secret book club of those who got the book in advance. thank you very much. is he a dedicated public servant, a controversial public figure. watch "headliners" tonight on msnbc. will president trump push for another shift in policy in the aftermath of the missile
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very strong message to assad and his friends that we are not going to watch them continue to use chemical weapons on their people. >> that's the united states ambassador to the united nations nikki haley today. in response, assad poked fun at the u.s. say, quote -- yet we
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saw american aggression and we were able to repel it with soviet missiles from the '70s. anybody global correspondent bill neely has the latest from beirut. >> reporter: hi, david. just when you thought that smoke had cleared and tension had dropped, president putin is warning the west that any further strikes would bring global chaos. the u.s., the uk and france have warned there may be more strikes. he made the remarks to a phone call to president rouhani. you may say it's rhetoric, but tensions are high. for president assad, it's business as usual. his air force, his war planes were in the air against today bombing this time with
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conventional weapons in at least two areas in syria. that's significant. conventional weapons have caused hundreds of thousands of deaths in this brutal seven-year war. u.s. commander meanwhile, have been examining satellite images of the weekend's air strikes, targeting three main sites, trying to work out were they effective? clearly they were tactically effective, because those sites have been destroyed, but what is the deterrent effect? interestingly, one syriaen army defector, a man who was an officer in syria's chemical weapons program set the strikes were limited, because they just hit parts of the chemical weapons but not the heart of it. he says that chemical weapons program is still alive. he says there were about 50 storage warehouses across the country. that's some years ago, but he
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says syria still has the means and the intent to use chemical weapons. now nikki haley, the u.s. ambassador to the u.n., has issued fresh warnings today repeating her locked-and-loaded phrase, but again saying to president assad today, we are watching, and warning russia as well, that new sanctions are coming against it as early as tomorrow. vice president mike pence says russia is in the wrong side of history, but russian lawmakers have been meeting president assad today, and russia is pledging to give syria new weapons, to update syria's surface-to-air missile systems, which date from the 1970s. so you dust may have settled on the air strikes, but this whole controversy over chemical weapons isn't over. the big question is, because air strikes do not equal a strategy,
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what exactly are america's goals going forward? nikki haley saying, by the way, again today that the u.s. will not leave syria until the goals are accomplished. she mentioned defeating isis. as for the other goals, that's the billing question, what exactly is u.s. policy in the future? david? >> bill neely in beirut for us. ambassador befall, let me -- we have an acting secretary of state, he's been in lima, peru, nikki haley, it strikes me, is or most high-parol file i want today. hocked and loaded is not a phrase you associate with
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diplomats. what do you make of these comments on the heels of the strikes. >> she and the president, when he announced the strikes, is tro -- i agree with what was said before. they could have done a lot more. they chose not to do so, because they said to deter future uses of chemical weapons. they want to keep their powder dry, to keep mixing with the metaphor, in the case that there is a use of it, they have other targets they can do. whether it works or not, it didn't work last year, we'll see in it worked this time. they're trying to deter chemical attacks, and nothing more. let's be clear about that. there's no bigger strategy than that. >> i'm going to paraphrase the uk prime minister, she said it doesn't end militarily.
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we certainly heard from am bass do haley. what levers are will evident. you look at what's happened up to this point. what does the path forward look like. >> that is the big question. what is the path forward if there's going to be regime change, as john bolden would like to see, what is syria after assad looked like. there was effort in the obama administration to bring ink multiple parties to the table, to have that diplomatic discussion. that's part of using all of the tools in the national security toolbox. unfortunately right now, with trump's reliance strictly on military measures, and not having a broad are strategy in place, we don't have any negotiating process, which is key that we don't have an ambassador to even run any of that process, and we have a president who believes that negotiation is fundamentally assign of weakness. at the same time we haven't had a military strike of any intensity that would be the deterrence that the add merits
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would like to say. we, but those end up being mixed messages in the end. >> ambassador mcfall, let me for a use your, that russian television is showing war movies. does that square with your understanding of how things are? what's your sense of the conversations taking place in policyin diplomatic circles in russia, in light of what happened a couple days ago? >> well, i was in the administration during several years, david. i just recently wrote a book coming out, and the longest, more tortured chapter is about syria. we tried through the geneva process to have a settlement in
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this war, and we failed. we failed for two reasons. one was because president putin believes he has to back assad no matter what, and to preconvenient regime change, he believes the united states and our allowing were seeking to achieve there. we were not trying to overthrow assad for many years and president trump is confused in whether he wants to -- but we failed in that, because he wanted to back assad. i sought your interviewed yesterday with masha, and she was right, this is a proxy war in the fight against the united states of america, the fight against american imperialism, and putin has assigned for himself to be the leader of that anti-imperial struggle, that's the way it's portrayed in russian society.
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>> there's a fraz i heard time and time again as i heard the security council meeting convened at the request of the russians, all 15 members talking about a political settlement and the prospects for it. is that at this point an abstract thing? are we removed from it? is there any chance we get to a political settlement in any kind of near-term circumstance? >> this is fundamentally the problem. at the u.n. it's a standard of norms that the world should be operating with. there's investigation and countries can comply or great with the assessments, but that is often very divorced from the reality we have on the ground. so russia is denying any complicity. there's massive disinformation done by iran and the russians and the syrians to prevent that none of this has happened. the reality of is al with a seven-year birthday today has spent their lifetime knowing
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war. that often gets lost as we have these legal discussions at the united nations, which is part of, i think, the frustration people family when it comes to what is the united states going to do? they see the united states as a body in the world that is often enforced its view, taken stands for moral intervention. we certainly took a stand in iraq, and people look to the united states for leadership, while we have a president who has said he puts america first and is not going to involve the united states. there's a tension there between the human tear impulse and the retreating from the rest of the world that is very difficult for this trump administration to manage. >> ambassador mcfaul, i've had conversations with -- and it can be elliptical. i imagine you've encountered the same kind of thinking when you were an ambassador to russia. how do you combat that?
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when you seed the kept liism like in the security council yesterday. >> well multiple years-long conversations about this with the russians. they continue to deny it. we presented evidence. we presented, you know, comprehensive evidence, public and nonpublic, secret information. if they don't want to believe it, they're not going to, because they want to back mr. assad and they want to pretend it didn't happen. they did once in 2013, i was there where president putin and president obama met. we agreed we should eliminate the chemical weapons and we had a great achievement, or so we thought then, but we didn't eliminate all the chemical weapons. we eliminated most of them and now we're bag to this disinformation/information, and it makes it difficult to negotiate. i'm not optimist. either one side wins or there's a stalemate and right now there's not. assad thinking he's winning,
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therefore i'm very skeptical there will be a political solution to this tragic civil war anytime soon. that's ambassador michael mcfaul,hood coming book is published on play the 8th. thank you very much for your time as well. and if hillary clinton is satisfied with the decisions james comey talked about in the investigation into her e-mail use. i just got my cashback match,
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i was prayeding in a world where hillary clinton was going to beat president trump. i don't remember spelling it out, about you if i hide this from the american people, she'll be illegitimate the moment she's elected. >> and of course james comey on criticism that he cost hillary clinton the election ahead of comey's interview airing tonight, president trump calling comey a slime ball again, also slippery, and worst fbi director among other things. and james comey tweeted three presidents are in my book. two help illustrate the values at the heart of ethical leadership, and one the
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counterpoint. lillian, let me start with you. you lived all of this. the investigation or the matter as he's careful to point out, the "new york times" that he talks about as well. what do you make of what he said or what you read about his perspective. he describes an immense amount of pressure and this over-arching desire to do the right thing, recognizing he was going to be chris sided no matter what he did. >> on the one hasn't he didn't want to seem like he was caving to partisan politics and the giuliani allies that hated hillary clinton, and we are leaking damaging information related to the e-mail investigation. essentially he wanted to come out ahead of that saying we are reopening the investigation, but the problem is he was going against doj policy to do that
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ten damage from an election, so i have to disgrass strongly when he says i was trying to do the right thing now what we have is a president trump. while the things in this book validate many things, james comey is the reason why we now have to live with the president trump. so he changed the course of history for the worse, and he has to live with those consequences. >> there's ink spilled in this book about what president obama said to james comey after this decision was made. james comey making the point in this book he it the imp ra mature from the president. >> it's annoys, president obama cosigned my decision, so it's perfectly acceptable. ?
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so the way this is going to end, we still have no idea, but certainly the president's legal troubles currently lead me to believe that james comey made the wrong decision. he knew all of that context at the time he came out and decided to damage hillary clinton. >> michael steele, i'm going to read one of these tweets. give me a second here form the big questions in the badly reviewed book aren't answered like, how come he gave um classified information, why did he like to congress? why did the dnc refuse to good give server to the fbi? why the phony memos? mccake's $700,000 and more? >> what do you make of the president engaging in the publication of this book. >>i trying to get out of in front of a narrative that's going to smack him upside the head. he wants to lay down in tracks, trashing comey as much as possible, and trying to delegitimatize any revelations
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or any store lines that emerge. that's donald trump's m.o. in many cases where he comes under attack or feels under some form of personal assault, and he wants to get out in front of it. i have a lot of admir action and respect for her, and the effort of that campaign, but i think it reflects a misunderstanding of what the 2016 campaign was about. whether or not you change what comey did, the outcome of that election would have been the same. >> no. >> donald trump would have beaten hillary clinton, because the country did not like hillary clinton, did not want her in that job. setting that aside, though, i think what comey did was a breach of the process. he could have handed what he had to the doj and put the weight on them, trying to split the baby the way he did has gotten him into the hot water. >> certainly sounds like the
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question he's asking is -- but her e-mails. >> it was decided by 80,000 votes and all of the independent analysis says husband was ready to win the election everyone the comey her and that stopped her momentum. i have to disagree. i respect michael steele as well. but every single reason, comey, russia, that she is a woman, we actually haven't had a woman if you can recall. >> that's correct. >> all of those reasons are true. >> and the fact she did not spend time on the ground in those three states that cost her the election. >> michael, you went to wisconsin if you were by 11 points in are not internal poll? >> yeah, because that's not exactly what the internal polls were telling you. >> i was there, michael. her polls had us up above 11. >> your own democrats said that. >> hindsight is always 20/20. now setting here today we can look at every single mistake
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that was made, about i can also say we have not had a woman president. racism played a huge role. voters suppression plays a huge role. >> and the fact they didn't like hillary clinton played a big role. >> people didn't like her because she was a woman. a lot of people who voted for president trump have a promise with women leadership. >> you can't play it -- >> i want every single reason is a factor. >> and the fact that she ran the kind of campaign that cost her the election ultimately. >> the fact that she won 3 million more votes, just not in the right states. >> if we had a popular vote, yes, but that's not how this game is played. you know it. you have to be strategic. there was a reason why trump focused on those three states. whether or not hillary clinton's campaign sought that is on her campaign and her, not on donald trump. >> michael, i want to interject
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with one more passage from the book. there's a takeaway here that i think james comey wants to quaint about how law enforcement is being attacked by this administrati administration. here his's referring to president obama. in a way, this and the supreme court are the two most important personnel decisions a president makes, because i'm choosing for the future, head said, again referring to p.m. many po, you will be here after i'm gone. of course james comey was not will much longer, but how do you feel about the wail law enforcement has been treated here? we hear time and time again the president has the utmost respect for the rank-and-file, but the fact is it seems insidious the t. rowe of attacks we have seen. >> well, first off, the
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president does have respe president doesn't have respect, the actions say something differently. the republicans who sat on their hands or kept their mouths shut with the way he's got after the department of justice, the attorney general and members of our national security agencies is appalling and ridiculous. the fact of the matter is, you are under investigation for reasons that have nothing to do with their political points of view or who they voted for, but because there was credible evidence that there was something to investigate. and so to now go after the men and women who serve in law enforcement is appalling, and for republicans you should be ashamed of yourselves. you cannot come back after the age of trump and feel you're going to get cozy and start preaching law and order. belief me, the community is looking at you, and your credible is shot. >> serlena, how about you? how much of that does that resonate with you and democrats as you look at this, z figure?
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how clear is that call that he's made there, we need to take a close look at the way law infers has been regarded? >> we definitely have to take a look at how trump is damaging the image, but also the respect of law enforcement. it's funny that president trump said that james comey is the worst fbi director? i would argue that j. edgar hoover, programs might be in competition for worst fbi director, among americans, i think michael can agree with that. >> i agree. >> there's agreement here. >> i think president trump -- his impacting the norms and -- of our democratic institution is going to have long-term consequences. they're going to be negative consequences well beyond donald trump. i agree with michael, let's just end it on a point of agreement. i agree with michael that republicans have completely and indicated their moral leadership and they will be held
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welcome back. michael cohen, president trump's personal attorney, will be in court tomorrow. the president reacting this morning via twitter to the treatment of his close aide and confida confidant. he wrote -- all lawyers are deflated and concerned. well, new york's federal attorney taking his view. >> when he says all lawyers are deflated, i'm not. i think you have to trust that the office is doing everything by the book. i don't think that donald trump has a decent understanding of what the attorney-client privilege is, and how it can be pierced. >> preet disbharara.
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there. charlie, i'm going to turn to you on this issue. you wrote a agrees piece, what do you make the claim how more i bund on mike at -- the raids last week. >> thank for you the compliments on the piece. the takeaway are people who aren't lawyer and hearing this from the president, it seems he has a sweeping understanding of anything that touching a lawyer who might be working with him is secret, and that is the end of the story. that is not the case. attorney-client privilege covers only material that would cover conversations between a lawyer and his client or materials the lawyer prepared in the course of anticipating litigation. it has a gigantic exception. that's called the fraud crime exception. it says that if the lawyer and the client are talking about perpetrating an ongoing or planned fraud or crime, rather
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than something that happened in the past, that is not covered by the privilege and prosecutors can get at it and use it in court. if that's what in these materials, the president does not have a leg to assistant on. ainsley, help us pull back the sides of the tent. you have michael aftvenatti sayg that his client will accompany him. there is a film still from one of his favorite movies "the godfather." when a relative arrives at a hearing. what can we expect tomorrow? >> i think you're right. all eyes will be on this court in manhattan. basically we know that michael key hen doesn't want to allow prosecutors this material that they gleaned, and he's claiming that attorney-client privilege that charlie just laid out, but what prosecutors said in
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response to that on friday is pretty key. they had this is part of a months long investigation that's not as much into cohen's business as a lawyer, as it is to his own business dealings. so that could have been things like a payment to stormy daniels, like to other women who have tried to come forward and had those stories suppressed. so there's probably more of this that we may find out in the weeks and months to come, what else prosecutors wanted to know, but i think what we will want to glean from tomorrow's hearing is how cohen will want to respond. he's almost pushed back so far that he's now having more embarrassing details be released as prosecutors have had to defend their actions. as preet bharara said, this was thinks district, he knows people have dotting every "i" and cross been every "t" so it's unlikely they would have taken this step
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if they didn't feel it necessary as part of a large and important investigation. >> let me just ask you about the degree to which the white house is worried about all of this, your paper reporting on a shift here about what they're concerned about legally. >> that's right. my colleagues are hearing from people inside the white house, they see this as as a much more imminent threat to the ump rather than the mueller probe at this point. they don't know exactly what's in these papers, in these maybe recordings of telephone calls that would touch on president trump's business dealings and other matters going back for years that may raise legal jeopardy for the president. >> charlie savage of "new york times," and my college julie anxio ainsley. this week's "watch for this" garcetti is the late zest it politics to make the if trip to
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iowa. could eric garcetti be next? for an insider's take, we turn to beth huey. he goes to waterloo, i gather his wife has a homestead there, grandparents are there, he has a breakfast at mull et's in des moines with some firefighters there, what's he doing? >> checking the boxes, the relative with an atapment to iowa, going with the union guys, which is very important for democrats to do the pilgrimage, and eric garcetti did this. what i found interesting, was what was it was gussing to like onch and will and it was a pretty good fit. he's a smart guy, he knows how to talk, he knows how to explain
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his point, which is to bring everything together now, washington is dysfunctional and it's people outside that really know how to solve problems. what i was struck by, though, he kept summing back to how los angeles and iowa are an awful lot alike. >> if i could, i want to ask about his itinerary. what does it tell you? he's gone to iowa, to other states as well. what can you glean from where he's going and when he's going? we're still a ways away here from where a primary election would -- >> this was his last one of the big four. he's been to new hampshire, nevada, south carolina, those are the fourth initial states that everybody has to go there and that basically decides who will be the nominee. the last stay for eric garcetti was iowa. it was a good visit. listen, it's a very wide open field. there will probably be over a dozen democrats looking at this race once the mid terms are over, but he seemed to make a
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pretty favorable impression, though as multilingual jewish-italian-hispanic mayor, of an urban place. he seemed to take it all in stride and it would be good to see how others decide to perhaps following in his stead. we're looking at the mayor of south bend, indiana, and also mitch landry, the mayor of new orleans, louisiana. he's talking about it as well. you know what, there was never a reality star elected either, so all bets are off. >> as you heard him speak, what was he saying? what was the message he was conveying to union worners farmers. >> if you had the bite, it's how iowa and l.a. can come together. >> we love iowa. i think america -- it's false that people wake up and say oh, i'm a coastal person, i'm a
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heartland person. we struggle with the same things that people with. >> everybody is just the same. it's hard to make the argument given how divided this country is, and frankly how president trump has characterized the cities that they're somehow the enemy of rural america. it's some who has a pretty powerful message to say no, we can all come together. thank you, beth. in our next hour, handcuffed for hanging out in a starbucks, sparking outside across the and what star becomes haus to say about that incident.
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welcome bake. that does it for me. you can find me here every saturday and sunday. the news continues with my colleague yasmin. president trump rips james comey. trump calls the tell-all fake, self-serving and badly reviewed, but not in the court of public opinion, according to a new poll. mission accomplished's well. the president says, yes, mission is accomplished, but defense officials say the strikes probably wouldn't deter assad's use of chemical weapons, so why
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did we act at all. ? there's a stormy forecast on monday. a lot to get to this hour, everybody, but first the all-out effort to discredit the fired fbi director james comey. >> if i ever start considering political fortune, we're done. we're no longer the group of america that is apart from the part sans. >> it's been very clear that james comey is a self-admitted leaker, he lied to congress. >> james comey a man of integrity? >> as far as i know. >> he would still be the fbi director if he had his way. the reason hi wrote the book is because he got fired. >> i was operating in a world where hillary clinton was going to beat donald trump. >> the guy knew exactly what he was doing, he those hillary clinton would win, and he thought this would give him some cover. >> if you knew that letter would elect donald trump, would you still send it? >> i would. i would.


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