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that wraps up this hour. i'm in for stephanie ruhle. coming up now, more news with nally jackson. hey there, my friend. >> hey, chris, thank you much. gorgeous, sunny where are a happy friday morning from south florida. president trump is here spending his day getting outside a little bit and so are students all across the country. they are heading outside because if you thought protests about gun violence were done, think again. more than 2,500 schools across the country are part of walkouts today to mark the anniversary of the columbine shooting, student not even born when it happened demanding change. we're coast to coast covering it all and a father of the parkland shooting is joining me live here onset in just a moment. the other big headline this morning, the president responding to those new comey memos apparently feeling a little vind eight cad after fired fbi director shares records of his talks with his
former boss including conversations about that infamous steel dossier. and speak of russia, what a week it's been related to the special council, right? we'll talk about when rudy geel annie thinks it may get wrapped up and why he may be living in fantasyland. we're set up and ready to go on this friday morning. i want to start with garrett hake because students are heading to the white house then the capitol as part of this walkout trying to hold a moment of silence, trying to keep this issue in the spotlight. >> reporter: yeah, hallie, that's right. i'm keeping a distance right now because we expect that moment of silence to begin any moment. it will be several moments of silence, in fact, 19 minutes of silence marking the 19 years since the columbine shooting that put the idea of a school shooting into the national consciousness in the first place. as you mentioned, most of these students, if not all of them, weren't even born when this happens. so it's a striking moment here that this has been an issue for these students that has existed
for their entire lives. and they're out here today trying to make sure that this is not a problem for students in the future. this is a student-led effort here today. i think it's striking both in a positive and kind of in a negative way that what we're going to see when they march from where we were to the capitol an entirely school-led speaker. it speectioaks to the strength e activism but also it speaks to the fact that washington while there's been a lot of discussion on gun control, improving background checks, addressing some of these issues that the students want, there has not been a lot of action on it. white house over my shoulder is empty of the president today. congress won't be on capitol hill, they're out for the weekend. so it speaks to the fact that these students have been able to keep this in the national spotlight even with a relative lack of action from the elected worve officials who they are trying to reach one against with this
protest nationwide. >> ands we see some of the video, some of the images on the other side of the screen, garrett hake in washington. we're up in ridgefield high school which is the school where basically this whole walkout movement started, right? >> reporter: hallie, standing here at ridgefield high school in connecticut and this is where it's all beginning. the sophomore has organized this entire event happening at 2,600 places across the country in at least receiver single state. they seja they want is simple. the students are expected to come out just after 10:00 a.m. and they're going to begin with 13 seconds of silence. they say this is to honor those victims from the columbine shooting. it's been 19th anniversary since that shooting. secondly, they said today's national walkout is expected to be more political than the last one we saw last month on the 14 ptht they said what we want season three things.
one, we want to honor those victims of gun violence about but we want to make sure wee after all of those politicians to really turn down that concealed carry reciprocity act. that basically means if you have a concealed permit that you can carry that gun into another state even if that tastate has stricter gun laws. and they want to make sure thaefr one of these politicians has given back any money they received from the nra. the students here have said, look, this is about us. we're the generation who have really been the ones hurt by this mass gun violence, something that previous generations have never seen to this degree. that's why they're saying today is important and they want their voices to be heard. >> morgan radford there in ridgefield, connecticut. it's spread across the country. 2,600 schools participating today. several of those schools are in atlanta where which is where we find gabe gutierrez. this is set to begin at the top
of the hour, 10:00 eastern. you can see some of these images here. some students in your neck of the woods are beginning to make their way downtown so you expect to see more activity over the next couple of minutes, right? >> reporter: yeah, that's right. we're here in front of state capitol here in atlanta where several hundred students are expected here. we're also seeing that students at several high schools, including lakeside high school in the atlanta area are starting to leave their -- leave their class. now, this is the area where last month several thousand students showed up in front of the state capitol. i'm here with some students here that are part of the organizers, you guys decide to stay home from class today. you're from north view high school in johns creek just outside atlanta. why do you claim to be out here today? >> we want to stop mass shootings around the country. we believe that no student and just no adult in general should die because of a psychopath with a gun or any madman with a gun.
>> reporter: what are some of the challenges for keeping this movement going? the turnout for today much lower it's tough to keep this in the headlines several weeks after the parkland shooting. how do you plan to keep this in the headlines? >> we're still communicating through social media, instagram, snapchat, facebook. there are plenty of people who don't believe in this cause, but there are plenty who do believe in this cause and we're trying to make sure that everybody who believes in it will come out and try to support us so we can end these mass shootings because it's just not okay seeing people die right in front of your eyes. >> reporter: what's your ghoul in georgia a-- goal in georgia? some corporations are looking at their ties with the nra, what type of change would you like to see here in georgia? >> well, we'd like the ban of
assault-style weapons in georgia and just generally georgia's a pretty big place for the nra, like last -- a few months ago i think delta cut its ties with the nra and we actually punished delta by cutting their tax rate. so we wanted stuff like that to stop. like if a corporation is stopping -- cutting their ties with the nra, we shouldn't punish them for it, we should encourage it. >> thank you so much for joining us. >> reporter: hallie, several hundred students expected here at the georgia state capitol in the next hour or so. these students we spoke with decided to stay home from school today. others right now are beginning their walkouts here in the atlanta area. hallie, back to you. >> gabe we'll be coming back to you as this develops more throughout the morning. with us now here in west palm beach is fred guttenberg. fred, thank you for being here. your daughter was killed two
months six days ago at the park land shooting. >> yeah. >> i'm sure it feels more recent to you. you were the guy that got into that confrontation with marco rubio at the town hall after the shooting. you you've speengd met with senator rubio and others in what has now become your lifelong quest to get something done, to get something changed. >> all i care about is this mission to end gun violence. i'm on a movement, i want to get gun safety, common sense gun safety passed in this suncountr. i will speak to anybody. senator rubio and i had a pretty abrupt introduction. >> sure. >> but i reached out to him the first time i went to d.c., he took time to meet with me and we had an extended meeting. when i was in d.c. this week we met again. my philosophy is if you stop talking to people, they won't be there to help you solve the problem. >> do you feel like you're
making progress, though? the conventional wisdom has been that before this happened after sandy hook, after these other horrific school shootings nothing really substantively changed in congress. the difference now is kids, young people, these students that are speaking up and speaking out. >> yeah. >> do you feel like there is room for movement in your conversations with senator rubio and others? >> 100 pes. >> -- 100%. >> on what specifically? >> i would say in the past years it was failure. we will not fail this time. the expectation that we will go away and this will burn out, we're just getting started. and on what specifically? uncommon sense gun safety. i think that means getting the age raised to 21. >> right. >> i think that means banning high-capacity magazines. it means fixing the background check system to a true national
system that's digit ooiized so matter where you are you have access to information. >> you're going state to state. i think you were just in ohio recently meeting with governor kasich there? >> correct. i'm thankful that he did take the time to meet with me and we had the leadership team in. this is not a red/blue state issue. this san american public safety issue. this is not democrat/republican, this is life or death. >> and when you look at that, when you look at where americans are when it comes to changing the nation's gun laws, the support for new gun laws is actually higher now than it was back after sapd did i hook. 57% now, 52% in 2015 as we keep an eye on these walkouts happening across the country. why do you think that is? >> because i think people want to be safe. they want to be able to walk in public without fear of being shot. and right now when we look at these incidents, which we need to find ways to prevent the incidents. but when they happen we look at
the mass casualties, people are afraid and they don't want to be. i'm a parent, okay. i lost my kid because i sent her to school. that's the only reason she died is she went to school that day. we parents should not live in fear of sending our kids out in public. and kids, the reason why they're rising up is they want to be able to go out in public and not be in fear. and so to say that we shouldn't be supportive of common sense gun safety is a notion that i don't get. the only group that would be against what we're doing would be the gun lobby. the problem they have is nothing we called for alien nates the second amendment, takes guns from law-abiding citizens. so what they express is simply false, and they've lot of lost the argument because they're no longer arguing based on facts. they're simply now on the personal attack, and against these kids. you know, it's mind boggling
when you have an argument that's winnable you continue arring, but they've stopped. >> you've become one of the strongest voices in the post parkland movement calling for shaken. i know you thought you'd never be in this position. >> no. >> how are you doing? >> so i'm running on adrenalin. >> even still? >> yeah. i don't sleep. you know, when i should lie down i start thinking about my daughter. and then i'm awake and i'm supposed to be awake i'm busy running around trying to do something. governor kasich actually expressed the same -- >> he has very -- >> does he and he expressed the same concern. and i told him, help me get commence gun safety passed in ohio and i'll take a week off. so, you know, listen, i'm like every other human being. it's nice to think in terms of ti time off, but my daughter was
only shot just over two months ago. i don't feel like i'm capable of stopping right now until there's a real move to permanently make change in this country. and that's what we need to do. >> when you see things happening like what we were showing right now on screen across the country, walkouts happening at these schools, student led, there are no politicians speaking, all of the kids speaking are kids, they're just students. does this dissipate eventually in a year, two years, three years? >> no chance. >> no chance? >> there's no chance. these kids are for real and they know how tho connect with each other like that. >> you have a son who 17. >> 17. >> jesse. is he involved in this movement? >> so he's starting to find his voice in it. for a while he was grieving his sister. he's getting more active on social media. my wife is trying to keep a more private approach. >> yeah. >> you know, but he's starting to find his voice. but you know what? listen, it was his sister, he's still struggling. >> have you spoken with the
president about this? i don't think you've met with him yet, right? >> no. >> he's here in mar-a-lago or spending time at his property down here in south florida in week. >> i've tried to schedule appointments with him. i think i talk too much about guns and they need to do something that is not in his comfort level. also, earlier on in this process, based on some of his earlier comments i -- i called him out on it. listen, i would love the president to be serious in this effort. i would love for him to be part of it. school violence is a real thing. the bullying that happens in schools is a real thing. >> that's close to the first lady's heart. >> it is. and the words and the taunts that lead to real outcomes are a real thing. i think until the president puts down his twitter and stops taunting the way he does, he's going to have a hard time being a part of this conversation. >> although you did just say you
believe the way to get people to the table is to keep the lines of communication open. >> and if he would talk to me i would tell him that directly. i would love to sit down with our president and talk to him about what he does, how the kids see it, and how he can help us become part of this gun safety movement. >> there are other parents who have lost kids in the parkland shooting who are involved in the state commission here in florida as it relates to making changes when it comes to gun laws. >> yeah. >> and florida was one of the first states to implement some of those changes under governor scott here. what do you know about that and where it goes from here? if you talk about change on a local level, is that something that you're pushing for? >> listen, i think the parents, i'm thrilled that they're on the commission. i think they needed to be. those parents have made school safety and security from the day this happened their mission. the way i'm making gun safety my mission, they made school safety and security their mission. they fully understand all of the failures that took place that
led to this. and i am very confident that their role and their voice on that commission will lead to some real positive outcomes. >> we're showing a live shot of what is happening in washington, d.c., but i want to see if we can show a shot of you because you're in an orange shirt, you have an orange ribbon on, you're wearing an orange wristband. what's with the orange? >> so orange was my daughter's favorite color. >> yeah. >> the night she was murdered the kids from her dance studio started wearing orange ribbons to commemorate her and they posted it. and as all things post they go sometimes viral. it went through the dance community in a matter of hours. a well-known core graph fer ended up also posting it because she remembered my daughter from a class she taught. and before you knew it, broadway in new york was dedicating shows to my daughter and they were all wearing the orange ribbon, which was all wonderful. however, about a week later when, you know, all of that going viral stuff someone said to me do you know orange is the color of the gun safety
movement? i did not know that. and from that day forward, i decided to make this part of my movement and i created the orange ribbon for jamie foundation. the thing about the gun safety movement, there was no symbol to it. the gun -- movement had a symbol, i want this to be the symbol. >> i appreciate you coming on. joining us here onset to talk about your efforts, our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family as you continue to grief and celebrate the life of your daughter jamie. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> appreciate it. >> we want to go over to morgan radford who is at ridgefield high school in connecticut where the schools are holding walkouts not just in connecticut but around the country. in our last conversation we talked about how ridgefield is where this movement started. bring us up to speed on what's happening where you are. >> reporter: that's right, hallie. as you mentioned, this is where it all started. so you can see behind us here all these kids who just filed down and they're sitting down now. they're getting ready to pait
wa -- wait for speakers and the first thing they'll do is hold a 13 second moment of silence. that's to honor those victims from columbine because today is the nine teenlth -- 19th anniversary of the columbine shooting. they're saying we're not only honoring the victims of parkland but the fwhuns columbine. grant, you can just explain to us why you're out here and why you decided to organize this. >> i decided to help organize this, i decided to come out here because quite frankly i've had enough. i've had enough of, you know, these horrific news stories, i've had enough of the somber, you know, just terrible, terrible emotion -- i have enough of the terrible, terrible emotional toll of these news stories. >> reporter: i have to ask you something. one thing that i found so interesting about this is that you guys are not only protesting with your feet, but you're also doing it online. why is online your mechanism of choice?
>> you know, as young people we pretty much exist online. it's an important part of our -- it's really the center of our social culture. it's where we communicate, it's where we deputy e develop our culture. if we're not communicating online we're not reaching anyone. >> reporter: that's where you feel like you'll are heard, right? so that's what you're hearing from students like grant and other students who are getting ready to hear those speakers because they say this is not only aboutic maing their voices heard as you heard grant say it's a terrible feeling, but it's about the politics. they said we're out here all day. they're going to be registering kids to vote. they're signing up through a website that not only registers to vote but when to vote. then they're going to be flooding their politicians telling them they want to see gun reform and they want to see it now. >> morgan in connecticut. thank you. i know i'll be checking in with you. i want to check back in with garrett hake in washington. garrett, you talked about the 19 minutes of silence there across from the white house as they kids get ready to head to the capitol, right?
>> reporter: yeah. forgive me because i'm going to keep my voice down because that's continuing even right now. you can see we've got now probably into the hundreds of students who gathered for this long moment of silence. the only other sound you may be hearing, i think we have a shot of it from our other camera is the young woman with the mega phone who has been slowly reading out the names of students who died in various school shootings and various examples of exactly the kind of thing that these students are here to protest against. again, it is a powerful moment. this is -- you work out here right outside the white house, this is a very popular park, lots of tourists coming and going. just watching people stop on the edges of this and kind of take this in. many asking us what's going on but in many cases sort of standing and being pulled into this moment here which, you know, there's one thing about a protest and being very visible and very loud and very in your face and there's something else altogether about using that silence in a powerful way to remind people the voices that they're not hearing and the people that they're not seeing
out here. i think you're getting a little bit of the sense of that here from these students who are starting very deliberately in this process today with this very long and frankly poignant moment of silence for people who are not here today because of this problem. i think it bears repeated, this started before these kids were born in the columbine shooting 19 years ago. these kids did not exist. and to take this this moment in particular to focus on that particular shooting is very striking. >> garrett hake live for us there outside the white house. thank you for keeping your voice down as i know that those students are holding that moment of silence there before they head to the capitol. we're going ton monitoring all of these walkouts all across the country throughout the morning right here on msnbc. and when we come back from break we'll talk about the other big headline the day. our first look at a big piece of the puzzle in the russia investigation. those now infamous memos written by former fbi director james comey that detail multiple conversations he had with the
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d.c. our justice correspondent pete williams was there. he's in washington. pete, what'd you learn? >> reporter: hallie, we heard from the lawyer for andrew mccabe. mccabe wasn't here himself but michael chrome witch former justice department inspector general says basically that mccabe is just beginning to fight back against his firing. there's been a legal trust fund formed run by two former judges and chuck ramsey, the former police chief here in washington and philadelphia. and what they say is they might sue for wrongful termination, they might sue for defamation, for damages. he's lost his pension, his healthcare benefits. they might say that his did you process rights were violate the. what they say is that this whole process that led to his firing, the investigation by the fbi and the inspector general was rushed and that the people involved basically formed a theory here and developed tunnel vision and only pursued the evidence that led in one direction but not the evidence that would have been on mccabe's side.
so for that reason they want to try to get more discovery, they want to get more of the facts out there. now, we learned yesterday, you know, that the inspector general referred of this case, that's the term, basically said here are our findings and turned them over to the u.s. attorney's office here in the district of columbia. mike cal prbromwich put out a statement jed saying they're confident this won't lead to charges and i think it's only fair to say that sometimes these ig referrals do lead to criminal charges and very often they don't. bromwich told us that the legal stand here is lower than it is in a normal case. it's reasonable grounds to believe a crime was committed. that's the basis for a referral, which is less than probable cause or less than beyond a reasonable doubt. so the point here is that mccabe is going to fight back. >> stev
some kind of litigation seems possible because they believe this whole thing was rushed to get him fired before he could retire. >> pete williams there breaking that down for us. pete, thank you and thanks for the clarity on who exactly was involved in that off-camera briefing. much appreciate. this is not the only new development as it relates to the fbi, as it relates to the department of justice because this morning you know president trump's out slamming shady james comey, he's calls him, for that key piece of evidence in the special investigation has gone public. we're talking about those memos that nbc news has obtained written by the former fbi director about seven different interactions with president trump and other white house officials. now, new this morning, the memos describe not only the president getting frustrated with his former national security adviser mike flynn but getting frustrated that flynn did not return a certain phone call fast enough. new reports now say that phone call was to none other than vladimir putin who may have been the first leader to reach out
after the naurtion. we' inauguration. i want to break down they say it was vladimir putin who made that phone call that the president got a little bit annoyed about in this conversation with mike flynn, right? >> that's right, hallie. a lot of what's in these memos has been made public in comey's congressional testimony and his book. but there are some juicy nuggets and that's one of them. according to comey, trump expressed serious reservations about flynn's judgment. national security adviser mike flynn. that stems from the fact that he failed to alert trump that a certain world leader wildly reported to be vladimir putin, had called him to congratulate him on his election. and because of that failure to tell trump, it was six days before trump would be able to call putin back and respond and trump thought that was wildly inappropriate. the fbi at this time was investigating mike flynn and comey writes in nis memo that he kept the poker face and tried not to react because that seemed significant to him. there's also a couple of interesting other things in here.
one is that trump continued, according to comey, to refer to the hooker incident. the allegations that trump was with prostitutes in that moscow hotel room back in 2013. he continued to deny it, but he said the at one point that vladimir putin told him that we have some of the most beautiful hookers in the world. now, vladimir putin did say such a thing back in january, 2017, but he said it to a news organization. i'm wondering if trump is conflagt those two things, that's just speculation. but some of the interesting little tidbits in these memos. >> there's also reince priebus apparently having a conversation with james comey that may not have been considered appropriate at the time? >> yes. i actually think that's the most substantive serious revelation from these memos. >> talk about that. >> one day before mike flynn was fired, reince priebus privately asked comey do you guys -- are you guys wiretapping flynn essentially with a fisa warrant? a secret national security warrant. and comey answers him but his answer is redaktd it's blacked
out. and then says this is not the kind of question you should be asking me. you should be going through proper channels to the attorney general. what this could be seen is the white house is trying to gather information about how exposed is flynn. you know, what evidence is there that he lied and what else might the fbi know about flynn's dealings? i think this is going to be very significant going forward, hallie. >> i appreciate you joining us to break it down. i want to go over to geoff bennett who has been standing by here in west palm beach. thanks for joining us. we know that very few things get under the president's skin like the russia investigation and like james comey and that was for all of us to see this morning as he's responding to the release of these memos, right? >> reporter: that's right. the president is complaining that james comey is making money off his new best selling tell-all book while the life of michael flynn his former fired national security adviser in the president's words is totally destroyed. as you mentioned we know the comey book has really seized a
lot of the president 'attention this week. he's been firing off near daily tweets about it. here's the latest in this war. the president writes this. general michael flynn's life can be totally destroyed while shady james comey that spelling error is his, not ours, shady james comey is leak and lie and make lots of money from a third rate book that should never have been written. is that really the way life in america is smosed to work? i don't think so. now you heard ken just mention that among the revelations contained in the comey memos, the memos by the way which were leaked presumably by the trump allies that the president had reservations at the time about flynn's judgment. based on this tweet and the latest statements you can see how the president say loyal flynn defender even though flynn as we know has pleaded guilty to lying to the fbi about his conversations with the russian ambassador and is now we're told cooperating with the special counsel. >> geoff bennett, real quick.
rudy giuliani, old familiar friend now newly named to the president's legal team, right? are we hearing more about how this happened? i think giuliani was down here in west palm with us and earlier this week he was spotted at one of the hotels nearby. >> reporter: that's right. he was here earlier this week. we know the president's outside legal team has been struggle toing add seasoned top talent. it's undergone from reshoveling with the departure of john dowd over the last week with dis agreement about strategy. but now rudy giuliani is stepping into that void. i spoke with someone last night who knows him very well and the kind of relationship he has with the president. this personality told me if there's any attorney that could grease the wheels of the special counsel investigation and help out president trump, it's a guy like rudy giuliani. he's a veteran prosecutor, he knows robert mueller, has known him for decades. he's a trusted ally of the president. he was one of the president's most combative surrogates during the campaign. this unfolds, giuliani believes
to be, a short-term assignment. caveat here is that only robert mueller knows how long this investigation will go. hallie. >> yeah, i think that is totally safe so say. thank you very much. i want to bring in joyce vance, msnbc contributor and a former u.s. attorney. thanks for being here today. let me start with the news that's developing that ken dilanian teed up for us. t"the wall street journal," the associated press reporting that it was vladimir putin who called who mike flynn didn't tell the president about right away, the president got very frustrated about that. potentially interesting, certainly. what do you make of that? what's the significance there to you? >> we're just learning about this inclusion in comey's memo now, but presumably mueller's team has had comey's memos really for months now and this would be part of the focus of their investigation. mueller's core charge is to understand the relationship, if any, between the campaign and
russia. and these comments as intriguing to us as they are today are certain to have been thoroughly investigated by mueller's folks at this point in time. >> you also heard ken talk about what he believes is one of the most significant pieces of the comey memos. he knows correctly a lot of this is new, not a lot of this is totally relevant, but the conversation between reince priebus and james comey is interesting. rachel maddow asked comey about that on her show live. here's what he said. >> you're so teaching white house chief of staff how these things are supposed to happen when the relationship between the justice department and the white house is properly handled? >> trying to. >> did he learn? >> i don't know. some indication that he didn't because at the end of this after i explained the importance of regular rised communication he took me to see the president on the way out, even though i said i'm fine, i'm sure he's really busy, i don't need to see him.
so that at least was some indication that he wasn't getting it. >> joyce, your response. >> so one of the remarkable features of this white house literally from day one was its inability to understand the proper relationship between the white house and the justice department. and it starts out at this level with these inappropriate comments and inappropriate communications. and jim comey's concern that they don't understand the relationship. and temperature carries on really to this day where we're seeing the president to continue to call for the jailing of his political opponents by the justice department. this is a white house that's really run amuck, that doesn't understand the rule of law, and it's unfortunate that comey's early efforts to help them understand the relationship were unsuccessful. >> let me pull back for a second, joyce, because our colleague here at msnbc nicole wallace was out this morning talking about this and she made a point that i think is important to underscore, which
is, what donald trump never said to james comey, according to comey's memos. here nicole out on the today show. listen. >> i think the most damaging thing for the president is that in seven interactions he never once asked the top law enforcement person in america how we need to get back at the russians. >> joyce, is that snag also stands out to you that there's a lot of discussion about the dossier, the president was asking a lot of questions about that, less so on the actual underlying threat to the democracy that the kremlin was working and so chaos basically in the 2016 election? >> it's really the standout feature of this entire series of memos and what we've learned about these conversations. because if we can drop ourselves back into that point in time, we know that we have learned that there was potentially russian influence in the election. we know that the intelligence agencies believed that russia has made certain efforts in that regard. the president's immediate response should have been how do
we secure our democracy? and that doesn't come up here at all. >> joyce vance, msnbc contributor thank you very how much for joining the show. we goont over to washington because that's where garrett hake is marching with those students who have walked out of their classrooms. they this h began their protest at the white house. they're now headed over to capitol hill. there's 2,600 schools including some in atlanta as you see right here are participating. garrett, bring us into the scene where you are. >> reporter: well, hallie, right now we are walking right past the president's hotel, actually. and the students are chanting vote him out. it's pretty clear he's the target of their ire here. the politicians they feel like have not been listening to them. i'm standing with sophia, she's a student from northern virginia, one of the suburbs. why was it so important for you to be out here doing this today. >> we have to keep reminding people that gun control needs to
be capped. gun control legislation needs to be tough. we will not rest? some action -- until some action is taken. we will stop legislation in the house and in the senate. >> reporter: i can ask you, did you think about this in a political way before the shootings in parkland or was that an ah ha moment for you? >> that was one of the big cat lists for us because we as students often don't pay attention to what's happening in our legislature. but seeing kids have to die because gun control legislation is not being passed, that really hit us hard and made us want to have our voices be heard. >>. >> reporter: i was in school when columbine happened and i remember it as a moment that changed how i thought about it. that happened before you were born. do people my age kind of get the idea that this is something you guys have grown up with your entire lives? >> because we've grown up by it oftentimes we're decent sized by things that happen.
but with something like parkland, so many kids having to die, that brings the nation's attention and makes us focus on what we have to do and what we have to get done. >> reporter: you can keep this up? it's been months now, congress has done not much. >> congress has not done much, that's why this november many of us are turning 18 and we can go out and we can have our voices be heard and vote them out. >> reporter: do you think this is the kind of thing that people your age will vote? is this going to be the issue for 18-year-old voters coming up for the first time? >> i think so. so many people are energized by what we're doing and fied fighting for, i think this will be the issue. >> reporter: hallie, we lost the protest here reslowed down a little bit so i'm going to try to get caught back up here and we'll jump back in with you in a few minutes, okay. >> thank you much, i appreciate it, my friend live for nus wash. coming up after the break back down here in west palm beach there's been a lot of discussion about the relationship between donald trump and vladimir putin,
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lots of discussion today, lots of new headlines coming out about the relationship between donald trump and vladimir putin. and today, one week after the u.s. launched that missile strike on syria, russia's reiterating putin is ready for a meeting with donald trump at the white house. it comes after an invite went out last month. >> i had a call with president putin and congratulated him on the victory, his electoral victory. i think probably we'll be seeing president putin in the not too distant future. >> here's the thing, though. right now the relationship with russia, it's not at a breaking point then fair to say eight flash point as the state department accuses russia and syria of covering up a chemical attack in douma.
we're joined from our london bureau. she's been reporting on this and kelly, what we're hearing from sergey lavrov just this morning. >> interesting the foreign minister talking about that invitation from the president from last month. very strange timing. he said that president trump told president putin in that phone call last month that he would be glad to see putin at the white house and that the kremlin was essentially waiting for -- expecting really a formal invitation. he said that president trump returned to that subject during that phone call a couple of times. he also said that the president would be glad to reciprocate, to go to russia after president putin comes to the united states. really interesting detail here. he also talked a little bit about syria. he said that both putin and trump would not allow tensions between the two countries to dissolve in military conflict and that the russians told the
u.s. where its red lines were in syria, for example, before last week's strikes. and the u.s. did not cross them. now, much different tone as you alluded to coming out of the state department accusing both russia and syria of blocking access to the site of the suspected chemical attack in syria. take a look at that. >> that's a stage, this is the guy who is just doing the water, all those things. this is his father. give you just a sent, we have -- >> of course as the russian side of what happened, what they believe happened in syria. they've maintained for quite a long time now that this chemical attack was staged by the white helmets, that's sort of their boogeyman, that's the group that they blame for a lot of trouble in syria. it is also, of course, the
civilian group that's helped rescue many, many syrians from bombings in syria. the state department spokeswoman says that the russians and the syrians are trying to block access in order to prop up this storyline of theirs saying that the chemical attack was fake and the russians are working with the syrians in order to remove evidence. of course the syrians and russians have both denied that. hallie, we should note, just an update, actually we do have a sound bite from heather. let's hear that now. >> we believe it is an effort to conduct their own staged investigations. russian officials have worked with the syrian regime, we believe, to sanitize the locations of the suspected attacks and remove incriminating evidence of chemical weapons use. >> so back and noorth pins
continues. meanwhile have you this interesting interview with sergey lavrov today and on the ground in syria a marked u.n. vehicle was seen in the area of that chemcrall attack today. it was under escort from russian military police. just a couple days after u.n. vehicles were fired upon trying to secure that route in hallie. >> kelly, thank you for laying all that for us. i want to bring in the former department assistant secretary of defense. evelyn, it's good to see you back on the show. thank you. >> thanks, hallie. thanks for having me. >> we knew last month, right, that the white house was being talked about as a possible location for some kind of a meeting between presidents trump and putin, right? so explain to us why sergey lavrov today is ingesting this back into the conversation, trying to make it seem like it's interesting new. it seems like very interesting timing here. >> yes. well, the russians are on the defensive first of all because i don't think think they're going to be able to hide from the
inspectors, the international inspectors, especially the experts with the organization for the prohibition of chemical weapons. these guys know how to find what the agents, and they can put together a pretty saw this with of the malaysian airliner. they make up their alternative theories and try to confuse the atmosphere about the discussion. the other issue that's happening is that i don't know if you caught it, but part of the report was that love rov insi-- lavrov inzitted that u.s. and russia won't fight one another in syria. >> i don't know if we have the sound or just the statement. i want to share what he said. lavrov said speaking about risks of a military confrontation, i am, he said i am 100% sure the u.s. and russian militaries won't allow this and neither will president putin or president trump. >> i see it. >> i wanted to get you on this. very interesting here.
>> i think it's important. >> maybe more of a hint to president trump? i mean, talk us through it. >> no. what i think it is is that the russian government is embarrassed, because president trump went on our television and said he reported basically about an incident that happened the night of february 7th in syria, in western syria when russian and syrian forces -- there were russian mercenaries, supposededly, they're really working for the russian government, they attacked american forces. we, american forces, engaged. obviously we pushed back after they were attacked, they defended themselves. in the fight your verdict many were killed -- in the fight, many were killed, including some of the supposed russian mercenaries. the russian media picked up on it. this is something the russian government has been trying to keep quiet. i think what lavrov was saying
is he was essentially trying to deny it ever happened. >> evelyn, it is always great to have your perspective on the show. >> thanks. >> coming up after the break, we've been talking about kids across the country. students walking out of school to protest gun violence. we'll dip back in to cover some of those after the break. arrow fast food drive thru lane. but what a powerful life lesson. and don't worry i have everything handled. i already spoke to our allstate agent, and i know that we have accident forgiveness. which is so smart on your guy's part. like fact that they'll just... forgive you... four weeks without the car. okay, yup. good night. with accident forgiveness your rates won't go up just because of an accident. switching to allstate is worth it. what does life look like during your period? it's up to you, with tampax pearl. you get ultimate protection on your heaviest days and smooth removal for your lightest. tampax pearl and pearl active.
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of their classrooms to mark the anniversary of the columbine shooting. most of the students were not even born when that shopping happened. you've been seeing the images. i want to bring in garrett haake live on the phone with us who is walking with students as they head from the white house to capitol hill in protest. garrett? >> the television gods are fickle here. we lost our ability to bring you a live picture. right now the students are arriving outside the capitol. the last couple of blocks there's been some anger directed at congress about how congress needs to do their job. there's a sense of frustration among the students that two months since the parkland shooting which you heard from the student a little while ago, it was sort of a political awakening for a lot of these kids. they're getting a crash course in how things work or doesn't work in congress. things were not getting done at the speed they wanted. now they're hear to make their voices heard. unfortunately, congress isn't
hear today. members left town last night. the house left on wednesday. they will see the pictures on television no matter where they are. there's a larger group here meeting. the students marched all the way to the white house. a program should last about an hour and a half. as we mentioned before, entirely student-led. in a sense this is a political demonstration, but this n this case, it's not been co-on tpted national figures. it's run and led by the teenagers. that's part of what's given this so much staying power. it's not dependent on political figures. >> garrett, i wonder, members of congress aren't at the capitol. they're home. they've left. and i wonder if in some ways that's not a metaphor for some of what these students want. they want to see action. there habit -- hasn't been action so far in a significant
sense since the shooting two months ago. >> reporter: it's a little too on the nose. members left the house wednesday night and are home for the long weekend. they're not hear addressing the concerns. i can't help but think this is a part of the power of television. you have a situation where not just here in the capitol but in many of the member districts and every state, you're seeing these kind of walkouts. i think that's part of the effort here by these students. to make them unescapable. you may not be in your office when they show up, but you'll see it on television. your neighbors will see it. the people you run into at the grocery store will see it. by doing it on a national scale, these students are able to keep this front and center for members of congress whether congress wants to deal with it or not. >> right. garrett haake on the move. hopefully we'll get your camera working again and come back to you throughout the morning. this isn't just happening in washington on the right side of your screen or in michigan on
the left side of your screen. it's happening across the country. you've seen our reporters coast to coast bringing this to you live. we'll be watching it throughout the morning right here on msnbc. to wrap up today's show, we're going to end with the big picture, and for it we're heading to oklahoma. there is real news happening there you need to know about. this is a firefighter trying to control the flames because oklahoma and places across the southwest are right now seeing fires so big they're called megafires. so big you can actually see them from space. these flames are like 70 feet high in some instances. oklahoma hasn't had rain in more than 150 days. that means there are perfect conditions for the fires. so far two people have been killed. the photographer here nick oxford. we'll monitor what happens there. we'd love to hear your comments on social media as we say thank you to our crew of rock stars here in west palm beach. our last day down in sunny south florida as the president ends his week here at mar-a-lago.
we'll be back probably for the holidays later this year, but a shoutout to the guys who never get enough credit behind the scenes. i'll see you in new york city on sunday where i fill in on the sunday "today" show. willie is taking time off, maybe getting a massage? who knows. i'll see you there early sunday morning. set your dvr. >> awful cold here. i hope you're going to pick up clothes. >> 80 degrees. i had them check. >> 30 year tonight. it's april. we look forward to welcoming you into our warm of heart city. but cold of air. hallie, we'll see you later. good morning, everybody. stephanie ruhle has the day off. it's friday, april 20th. let's get started. breaking overnight, the major twist in the russia investigation. the justice department turning over to congress those much talked about memos that james comey wrote write after his