tv Andrea Mitchell Reports MSNBC April 30, 2018 9:00am-10:00am PDT
right now we hand you off to andrea mitchell for "andrea mitchell reports." right now on "andrea mitchell reports," locked out. more than 100 migrants from central america stuck at the border after president trump vows to keep them out. >> catherine and her 1-year-old daughter, ashley, are waiting to turn themselves in at the point of entry. she said gangs in honduras have threatened to kill her and she can't go back. near a deal? kim jong-un promised to give up his nukes. it's a long way from reality, but south korea's leader is talking nobel peace prize for president trump. we're here where we are today, because of the pressure that the trump administration has put on north korea, economic pressure, military pressure. this is widely recognized. and red state threat.
president trump going after montana senator jon tester, ignoring republican senators who also challenged the background of dr. ronny jackson. >> i know things about tester that i could say too. he would never be elected again. >> good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington, where president trump is taking a hard line toward the central american families seeking asylum at the san diego border. border patrol officials say space constraints are preventing them from accepting new migrant applicants trying to escape from violence in their countries. joining me now is kristen welker and miguel along the border in mexico. miguel, first to you. let's get the situation down there. you have a caravan of families that have been on the road for a month or more.
and they are from guatemala and other countries where they say they are escaping from violence. what is the status of their health, their conditions? >> reporter: i want to show you what the migrant caravan looks like. this is just some of the faces here for many of the folks, just outside of the port of entry into the united states. these families have been on the move four to five weeks. many are small children. some with their parents looking to seek asylum in the united states. they have traveled about 3,000 miles from countries like ecuador and guatemala, trying to escape violence in that country. they have literally made their way to the border sense, on the other side is a checkpoint where many will try to turn themselves in to seek asylum. they are seeking asylum only the grounds their lives are in danger. when they get to this checkpoint, they'll turn themselves in.
so many of the families gathered here overnight. many have just the clothes on their backs. they are gathering here together, the caravan has moved together for the most part. and now is the lash push. about 50 people tried to turn themselves in. you can see here, this is a large prayer group here of what is left of the caravan, that is trying to get across the border here. you can see some of the faces inside here are mothers and children, some men that also traveled with them. predominantly, these are women and children seeking asylum. many heard the rhetoric from president trump. they're aware that the president has said they're a threat to the united states, that they won't be welcomed with open arms into the u.s. they say they're not deterred here. i'm going to give you an example of how big this caravan is. we're told about 150 migrants are part of the caravan that are what's left of the caravan that
started as upwards of 2,000 people. many say they've made it this far. they are not going to give up hope despite the rhetoric from president trump, they would not be allowed into the u.s. this is the point of no return. these folks are desperate and certainly right next to the border, they are close to their chance of freedom and will stay here until they get it. >> miguel, a little background on this group. was this originally recognized partly as a demonstration as a protest or, you know, was this part of the spontaneous and continuous migration from these countries to the border, if you have some context for that? >> reporter: yeah, the migrants began about four to five weeks ago. many came from ecuador, guatemala, honduras and started along mexico's border. they entered the country and that's when president trump began to notice this large caravan.
these caravans happen often, but this was much larger than the average caravan. the president was able to note this caravan. these things do happen from time to time. the last time there was a caravan of this size was haitians making their way into the united states. all of these folks are from central america. they say their only chance at a safer life is in the united states. so this actually began weeks ago when it seemed to catch the president's attention, and while it caught his attention, many people said that attention has been bad for their fight here to seek asylum. at this point, there is no turning back to these points. they say they have to give it their all. >> and kristen welker, the larger political context here is exactly what the president was focusing on in michigan on saturday night. it's appealing to his base. h let's take a look at one part of his speech. >> are you watching that mess
that's going on right now with the caravan coming up? are you watching this? around our laws are so weak and pathetic, given to us by democrats. they're so pathetic. >> kristen, this has been one of his most successful issues. >> reporter: it absolutely has been, andrea. and there's no doubt we are seeing 4ihim tee up the talking points ahead of the midterm elections. this is going to be a critical test of his immigration policies. remember, his base was infuriated after that spending bill was past that they felt didn't include enough money for funding for that border wall, which he has talked about, which he really centered his campaign around. so i think you are going to see him continue to be very tough on this issue. now, dhs secretary saying that all of those trying to seek asylum into the u.s., their requests will be processed
expeditiously and efficiently, but no timing on what that might look like. as mig uel has been reporting, they aren't going away. they're determined to get through. so this is shaping up to be a real standoff for this president. he's been tweeting about these caravans since march 25th. again, calling them a threat to the u.s., as miguel pointed out. so this is really a chance for him to not only rally his base around this issue, but it will test for him. you may see the honor guard behind me. we are awaiting the president of nooi nigeria. the two are going to hold a press conference, so it's a chance to ask the president about all of this. >> this is the first african leader visiting since "the washington post" first reported the president's ex-plepletive comments about the continent as
well as haiti. >> reporter: i spoke to an official about those potential tensions. this official reiterated the president denies making those comments, even though a number of people say he did make them. but this leader said -- this official said the two leaders are going to stress their joint commitment to one another. their partnership, you see the president there, greeting the president of nigeria, shaking his hand right now. at the forefront at this meeting will be security issues, counterterrorism. this official said that nigeria has been a real leader in terms of fighting isis, also boko haram. that is an issue we've been tracking, so they were focused on those critical issues as they try to turn the page from the tensions at the backdrop. >> thank you so much to both of you. we're looking forward to miguel's reports throughout the day.
president trump about to meet with the president of nigeria, and he is the first african leader to visit the white house since that controversial comment to say the least. his description of the continent in front of a bipartisan group of congress. as well as saying he wants a conference to take place at the dmz. and new pressure from israel today and the controversy of opening up the u.s. embassy in jerusalem. joining me now is richard haas and jeremy bash, former chief of staff to leon panetta at the cia and pentagon. richard, your book, this is what
we're seeing now, the world in disarray, except for perhaps a north korea possible breakthrough. we are expecting netanyahu to give a speech at 1:00 eastern. he is going to be announcing major new concerns about cheating on weapons or the nuclear program in iran. this only days away from our next deadline, where the president is expected to not continue waiving sanctions on iran and is facing pressure from iran and allies to continue the iran deal. where do we stand on that after macron and merkel's visit? >> we have an unsettled nuclear situation with north korea, and there's hopes that may be on its way to get resolved. emphasize "hope and may."
the optimists i think are getting way ahead of themselves. and with iran, we have what i would call a parked nuclear situation, which we seem well on our way now of unraveling. and the israeli government is no fan of this agreement, nor is the american president. but israeli intelligence leaders, at least until now, have been saying iran is comp complying with the agreement. but we are headed between now and may 12th towards the united states moving away from the so-called iran-nuclear agreement. and a lot will matter on the details of exactly how we move away. because it could spark not so much a crisis with iran, but as you know, it could exacerbate the problem with the europeans, because the principled american reaction could be economic sanctions against those doing business with iran. >> and we had this powerful
argument from macron, but when he was leaving, he was telling a number of us that were sitting with him that he thought it likely the president would blow it up. i talked to another diplomat where he said there's a 5% chance of a compromise. white house officials saying there could be a reassertion of sanctions but not impose them immediately. the iranians are saying that they will break out of it if the president does. jeremy bash here, russia is involved in this. macron has been talking to putin. is there the possibility of coming out with some sort of compromise? >> i think the deadline is tight. let's see what benjamin netanyahu says at the top of the hour. in 2009, israel was the country that came forward with the new intelligence about the centrifuges that were part of
iran's nuclear weapons program. we thought they shut down their weapons program in 2003. so we have to see the evidence that the israeli government is putting forward at the top of the hour. i suspect it's going to be something about weaponization. there are three parts to a nuclear weapons. weaponry, centrifuges, and weaponization is very hard to detect. i'm talking about creating a warhead through computer modeling, simulation and fashioning the warhead that would go on a nuclear weapon. if israel has evidence of that, that would be a major breach, that could spark this unraveling of the deal. >> at the same time, john bolton, let's take a look at this. john bolton speaking about the libyan model as the sort of predicate for what could be done with north korea. but the libyan model involved gadhafi giving up his nukes to
condoleezza rice down in tennessee, and ended up being toppled and killed. let's see a bit of the new national security adviser in his sunday show appearances. >> we have very much in mind the libyan model from 2003-2004. there are obviously differences. the libyan program was much smaller. the pull, complete, total disclosure of everything related to their nuclear weapons program with full international verification, and following libya, verification by american and other inspectors, could be very important here. >> which is what they're saying they want from north korea. is it credible that after cheating twice under clinton and bush 43, that north korea would give up everything and that we could verify everything that has been given up? >> is it conceivable? yes. but you would have to have a good imagination. the libya example and the
ukraine example and the iraqi example all push north korea in the direction of not giving up their nuclear weapons. it's interesting, at the beginning of the show, you mentioned the nobel prize, all the people saying that donald trump deserves congratulations for bringing us to where we are. maybe. but also possible as an explanation is that north korea reached a degree of satisfaction or maturity in its nuclear program because of all it's done. the test site is in no condition to do further testing and it may be possible they want a pause, is willing to stop where it is, see how it can benefit diplomatically and economically. what john bolton is talking about, that kind of intrusive verification where north korea would have to give up everything, my hunch is that's a nonstarter. if that's the administration's position, either we won't have a summit or if we do have summit,
there's a good chance the summit would fail. >> and what about the other piece of this, which is certainly a lot of signals from north korea that they want u.s. troops out of south korea, how likely is it that the u.s. would agree to that? >> well, we have 28,500 troops there that provide deterrence against north korea, but they are a force stability in the region, they reassure our allies and partners in the south china sea and else where. so it would be dangerous to fake our troops out prematurely. but we think that the president is interested in this. that he thinks we shouldn't be defending south korea, that it costs too much, even though it costs a lot more to house those troops in the united states. and the president, in some ways, would like to see our troops off the peninsula. that's probably what the north is going to push them to do. i think that would be wrong. >> richard, at the risk of taking you around the world, i wanted to ask you about this horrible -- these events in afghanistan today. two suicide blasts in kabul.
25 dead, nine journalists dead. a suicide car bomber, woulding eig -- wounding eight nato soldiers. how do we deal with that? >> it's hard to be optimistic. you now have a government that's divided and it faces two real and distinct threats. one is the familiar one, the taliban, which enjoy all sorts of support from pakistan. now you have isis setting up shop inside afghanistan. so i see no prospect of afghanistan becoming a normal country any time soon. i see no prospect of diplomacy working. so it seems to me, we have an open ended problem here, and even if the united states goes ahead and increases its troop presence, i don't think we'll get a return on investment that would make the situation better. so i think afghanistan, the question is not so much what you can achieve, it's what you can
prevent. that's not a lot to say after more than a decade and a half of effort, but that's where we are. >> richard, i know you spent some time with the foreign minister of iran, who has been tweeting, in advance of netanyahu's speech, tweeting, the boy who can't stop crying wolf is at it again. you can only fool some of the people some of the time. that was his warning in 2016, trying to block the nuclear deal at the u.n. >> i think what's important to remember about the nuclear deal, it was basically a narrow, limited agreement that didn't solve the nuclear problem. it basically bought time. it wasn't meant to deal with the ballistic missile challenge or iran domestically or with iran's regional push for influence and access. so i think one of the real questions is what do we do with this agreement? at the same time, how do we deal with these other challenges and
threats coming from iran. the administration seems intent on co-mingling the nuclear challenge from iran with everything else. my reaction is deal with everything else and try to get the europeans and others to agree to a follow-on agreement, which would extend the curbs on iranian centrifuges and their ability to amass enriched uranium. but the administration seems more determined to have a showdown now, and i don't understand why, because this does not increase the disposition of the north koreans to sign an agreement with us if they're not persuaded we're going to stand by an agreement. i would have thought one nuclear crisis at a time is enough. >> thank you both so much. coming up, litmus test. will president trump's threats against senator jon tester rally republicans? hold on dad... liberty did what? yeah, liberty mutual 24-hour roadside assistance
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welcome back. president trump escalating his attacks on democratic senator jon tester in the fight over ronny jackson's failed nomination to be v.a. secretary. t tester publicly questioned jackson's record and his conduct on the job. despite the fact that the committee's republican chair also echoed those concerns. >> he took a gentleman, who is a
truly high quality human being, and what they said about him, what they said about this great american doctor, ronny jackson. this is a high quality individual like they would love in montana. and tester started throwing out things that he's heard. well, i know things about tester that i could say, too. and if i said them, he would never be elected again. >> wow, that's an unusual statement. joining me now, michael steele, former spokesman for john boehner. for the president of the united states at a rally to attack an incumbent senator, who is running for re-election, with those kinds of vague threats, that's a little -- shall we say a little joe mccarthy. >> the threats are one thing.
but there are a number of democratic senators running for re-election in states that the president won. the president has done an awful job of holding those democratic senators accountable when they vote against his agenda on things like tax reform, strengthening the military. and so if he can provide the sustained attention and focus on senator tester that he hasn't yet, it may create opportunities to get more democratic senators on board his initiatives. >> you have claire mccaskill, heidi hidecamp, joe manchin. >> it's a long list. is that is will tell the story whether that turns. >> i think jon tester is the big winner. trump looks desperate, waves a fake dossier in front of them. i worked in front of two white houses. you get senators with honey more
than vinegar. to level these attacks on senator tester, when he was standing up for veterans and having competence at the department of veterans of afirs is going to win him votes. telling them that they're dealing with irresponsible, reckless president. >> that said, a lot of people are concerned that senator tester released unverified accusations. it was tester who really led the way on those -- >> and some of those allegations it seems were not true. so the decision to release unvery feed, uninvestigated allegations against an admiral was a huge mistake and not the values that montana voters want to see in their senator. and in a state that president trump won by 20 points, the president's opposition is going to be a big problem. >> this was -- i like dr. jackson, he's a nice guy. i know him personally.
but unqualified for this job. senator tester stood up for veterans while donald trump was playing politics with veterans lives. i think that's going to be a winner for senator tester in montana and i think he did the right thing. senator isaacson was along for this ride as well. and there are reports that dr. jackson has been removed as the doctor. so apparently this was some fire here, not just smoke. >> whether or not he's qualified to run the v.a., speaki insmear military officer is not going to go overwhelm in montana. >> how about getting rid of the house chaplain for some unexplained reason in the middle of his tenure, and coming after after he had given a prayer that was, according to matthew and others, parts of the gospel, raising questions about the fairness of the tax bill. >> we should be clear that father conroy was not let go because of the prayer. >> how do you know that?
>> because the speaker has said that publicly and his saf said that publicly. there is no doubt that is not the reason. it would have been smarter to let him serve out his term. issues of pastoral support are among the most personal and private matters of fauth and family that you can imagine. so discussing them publicly is not a good idea. so it's brave of the speaker to take the heat over this issue. >> doesn't it make it harder to have anyone other -- because of congressman walker's comments, which from the evangelical point of view, we're disputing anyone that could be a secelibate prie could be -- >> if the shoe were on the foot here and democrats had fired a chaplain for preaching the gospel and then come out and
said that only an evangelical could be the successor, we would have people screaming that the democrats were anti-catholic. let me tell you who would be leading that parade, paul ryan. so he needs to come clean on why he fired the chaplain and do more than just promise us it wasn't because of this preaching of his about the gospel. and, you know, i think that it was a despicable thing to do this, and i think, you know, and the anti-catholic statements that have followed are particularly hard to accept. >> how do we reach a point in the house of representatives where not only are we so politicized that we can't have a reasonable debate on anything, but where the chaplain is an issue. >> i think it's a sad state of affairs. i think that's particularly true, because anyone who knows paul ryan knows that his catholic faith is at the center of his life. >> and what about the midterms
now? the house democrats very eager about the energy that you saw the results in arizona in the eighth district in arizona. mike pence is out in arizona today and going down to the border. but the fact is, democrats are energized, republicans are saying yeah, but you didn't win it. but they -- >> they closed a huge gap. there are 147 house republican districts that have a partisan voting indicator that is less good for republicans than this district. of the 80 something odd republicans facing who are not safe, 2/3 of them were elected since 2010. so they've never faced this sort of ugly wave midterm environment. a @ sa at the same time, they're focusing on priorities, job, security, border security, and that will pay off in november. >> do you have to control the impeachment caucus if you want to save this momentum? >> six months is a long time. but when i see these republicans in these districts wrapping
their arms around donald trump, it is like watching people in lifeboats paddling towards the titanic. the trump argument now is, that he's no less unpopular -- no more unpopular than barack obama was in 2010 when we lost 63 seats in the house of representatives. so they're in trouble, they know it. i think further embrace of trump is going to hurt the republicans in the midterm. >> michael? >> i think it's important to get the republican base out. the president remains popular among the republican base and democrats are wasting time on issues that don't matter to the american people, rather than talking about the economics and security that bring the american people together. >> the fact is, we haven't heard a coherent economic message. you have a democratic party already driven by how many candidates? >> of those candidates, they are really costed around some core points. preserving the affordable care act, fighting to create jobs and
raise wages, raise the minimum wage and maintain controls on wall street. those are things that republicans in the house want to roll back and undo. the things that democrats want to preserve and extend is a powerful contrast on the issues in 2018. >> great to have you both. coming up, why arizona teachers are still striking, even after the governor tweeted that they have a deal. we're live on the ground in arizona, coming up next. stay with us. how do you become america's best-selling brand? by opening new doors to big possibilities with the first ever ford ecosport. woman: my niece maria. maria: hi! woman: perfection! by connecting drivers to what's important. maria: i love that. and by protecting those who matter the most. the all-new ecosport.
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arizona's teachers are putting the heat on state lawmakers with a third day of walkouting. more than 1,000 public schools are closed as teachers call for better pay and more funding for education. right now, arizona lawmakers are hammering out details to introduce an education budget for a vote later today. the plan, according to a tweet on friday, is to give teachers a 20% raise over three years and provide $100 million for school funding. nbc's steve patterson is in phoenix. steve, are they likely to accept this offer from the legislature?
>> reporter: andrea, i'm going to have to start with an apology, i can barely hear you speak. i can just tell you right now, the crowd is absolutely incredible. listen to this. we're sort of in the middle of where they're greeting statehouse members as they come in. it's an unbelievable sight. if you have a state member that is in support of the movement, they come through this tunnel and greeted like rock stars. if not, they go through and around the crowd. we've been speaking to teachers who aren't happy with the govern governor's announcement that. 20% increase, that's three years. they're looking for it right now. that $100 million doesn't cover the $1 billion that teachers feel like they've been put out. so they're calling for more funding. we've been speaking to several teachers in the crowd. one is courtney. you've been telling me, you work how many jobs? >> i work four jobs. >> four jobs?
how big is your class size? >> we can have up to 40 students, and an emergency situations, maybe up to 45. >> what do you want to see from this, courtney is >> just support for all educators, including our support staff, making minimum wage, changing feedi ining tubes and diapers for the most vulnerable students. >> thank you so much. >> reporter: you can hear the intensity here. this is expected to go all day long. thousands marching in the state capital in arizona. andrea? >> steve patterson, thanks for bringing us that report. we should point out that the average national per pupil is about $11,000 a year. and the average in arizona is only $7489 per student. to be continued. coming up, what will ronny jackson do now that he's out of
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first to you, ashley. what is the latest on ronny jackson, staying, going, staying but losing his rank? >> so it's sort of an open question, to be honest. basically, what is clear is that ronny jackson will not be returning to his previous role as president trump's personal physician. the white house was sort of trying to claim last night that once he accepted the nomination to head the v.a., that the plan was no matter what happened, he would not return to that role. although that sort of wasn't the way they actually rolled it out. the person they put in place was an acting person, so it did seem to hold out the possibility that dr. jackson could return if something went south with the nomination. the white house originally said that he's going to be returning in some capacity to the white house medical unit, although this morning, raj shaw, a white house spokesman, put out a vague statement that raised more questions than it answered, where he said we have no
personnel announcements at this time. so likely returning to some job, but it's unclear what that would be. >> and betsy, this raises the question over the factual basis for the criticisms of him from jon tester, from johnny isaacson, welas well as democra. though the president has chosen to make this an issue of jon tester. >> some white house officials thought that the facts underlying the allegations about ronny jackson were so thin and weak that they hoped tester would keep attacking jackson in the hopes that tester would go out on a limb a little bit and making himself vulnerable to criticisms. we're now seeing president trump criticizing tester over those allegations, leaving out that many republicans found the allegations to be concerning. it's just sort of the post fact media environment we're living in of the white house being in
some ways comfortable or even supportive of bad information being disbursed. >> and ashley, what about loyally oaths and the never trumpers, not republican never trumpers even being considered for key posts. you've been writing about how that has made it more difficult to fill these jobs. i know this to be true at the state department. >> that's right. in light of what happened to dr. jackson, we did a piece looking at the way the president and his team vet candidates for jobs. one thing we found is that if you are highly qualified, if you have the right credentials, that you can still get sidelined for being disloyal to the president. if you were a never trumper, certainly if you signed a letter, as you mentioned, a lot of the national security foreign policy people during the campaign signed letters opposing president trump's candidacy, and that basically black balled them from a number of top positions or any positions real any in the
administration. the flip side is if you maybe don't have the qualifications or traditional credentials but you were quite loyal to trump's candidacy, that is enough to overlook what in any other vetting process or administration would be a number of red flags. >> the lack of vetting of michael flynn and others, including ronny jackson for a much more complicated post, is koj continuing all these months in. it seems clear they haven't figured out how important that fbi check is before they name somebody. >> that seems to be what happened with ronny jackson, where his nomination was put forward in a way that surprised officials on capitol hill. john cornyn, the second most senior republican in the senate, somebody who is a vital effort of any effort the white house wants to put forward, said after the jackson debacle resolved itself, that he blamed trump and the white house for pushing
through that nomination so quickly and without giving them enough time to really thoroughly go through his background before putting him out there. >> thank you both so much. coming up, may day. could a global trade war sparked by trump begin overnight? you're watching "andrea mitchell reports." stay with us on msnbc. we got married after college. and had twin boys. but then one night, a truck didn't stop. but thanks to our forester, neither did our story. and that's why we'll always drive a subaru.
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u.s. allies in europe bracing for a potential to trade war amid a looming midnid deadline with president trump poised to decide on steel and aluminum partners against our biggest trading partner, the european union. joining me, former domestic policy adviser under president carter and under president clinton, former ambassador to the eu and author of the new book "president carter: the white house years." widely praised by partisans. and congratulations on the book, historians and others from different administrations, jim baker, everyone praising this book. first, let's talk about the eu tariffs, because may 1st is the deadline and there was a rather difficult meeting with angela merkel following up on the
emmanuel macron lovefest trying to get the u.s. not to hit new tariffs against europe. >> get the european union to have a sidebar on nuclear missiles. one hand. on the other hand, if he imposes these, devastating. hurt iran, hurt the cooperation needed across the board in so many areas where our allies are important. it's not a good idea to get into a fight with our allies at this fraught time internationally. >> now, the other thing we're facing in the next couple minutes. netanyahu is going on television to say there has been cheating we understand on the iran nuclear deal, controversy to what the u.n.'s international inspectors have been saying. perhaps it's on weaponization or warheads, but here we have so many years, decades, since camp david. you were a part of all that, in
president carter -- the definitive biography here of those white house years. tell me about camp david and about the whole hope for middle east peace? >> and the prime minister for literally over 30 years worked with him closely on a range of areas. an area i think israel and the trump administration are offbase. certainly there are defects to the iranian nuclear agreement but in his 15 years of time and alternative of pulling out leaves nothing. it encourages the iranians to break out of the nuclear deal. it leads to potential secondary sanctions in addition to those on trade against the european union. are they not supposed to now trade with iran? after they've reached an agreement as part of the so-called p5+1? it really leaves a tremendous void. if there was something better, fine. you can supplement the agreement. dealing with missiles, dealing
with support for terrorism, but don't rip up the agreement itself, which really gives significant security. it reduces the centrifuges by two-thirds, blocked the heavy water system in iraq. it really has many, many benefits, and the europeans are very dedicated to it, and we should at least do that and then supplement it by controlling their missiles and their support for terrorism with a separate agreement. >> you write about camp david, because that's the other piece of this. two weeks from today the u.s. embassy will open in jerusalem, effectively the palestinians complain taking jerusalem out of the equations as something to be resolved in future negotiations. we still have to see a middle east peace proposal from this administration. you write about camp david. all of those years ago. negotiated in 1978. there was a camp david meeting, meetings over labor day weekend, signed in march of 1979, and you write, this saga demonstrates that successful dealmaking in
the middle east, perhaps more than anything else demands creative solutions, personal tact, political risks and above all tremendous perseverance. >> they really -- >> what's lacking in this administration? >> they really embody camp david what i'm saying in the book. which is, he was the most accomplished and underappreciated first-term president we've ever had. congress passed 70% of his legislation. to be successful at a negotiator, whether north korea, the middle east, a president has to understand the issues, bury himself in the details and have a broader vision and cart eer brought both of these. one anecdote, end of the 13th day, a sunday, close, not quite there for an agreement, a person touch by president carter made all the difference. he learned how much begin loved his eight grandchildren and personally autographed an inscription to each, walked over to begin's cabin, gave them to
him. begin had his bags packed ready to leave, couldn't make more concessions said, mr. president, i'll make one more effort, i'll try. the rest is history. 40 years, no breach in that. essential to our national security in the middle east and emblematic of the things president carter did described in my book. >> a brilliant example. thank you so much and for the book, "president carter: the white house years." thank you for your public service over all of these de decad decades. more ahead. we'll be right back. it's time now for "your business" of the week. philip robb and beebbu norby don't care in you buy anything in their beta stores. a new source of income. shopping surveillance data, but in the treacherous world, will their business succeed?
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