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nation and our world on a thursday night. thank you so much for being here with us, and good night from nbc news headquarters in new york. plus special counsel bob mueller is signaling that his team is getting ready to file numerous subpoenas relating to former trump campaign chair paul manafort criminal proceedings. and a reversal from paul ryan, the house speaker has announced that house chaplain patrick conroy can keep his job after trying to oust him last month. good morning, everybody.
it is friday, may 4th. i'm yasmin vossoughian. we'll start with stunning revolutions as the "the new york times" describes it suggesting a president losing control of his own narrative. as of this week, it turns out that the statement about his health was not actually from trump's doctor but had been dictated by mr. trump himself, the president has split with the leaders of the legal team and hired a new attorney and mr. trump had finance the $130,000 payment intended to buy the silence of the actress known as stormy daniels. "the washington post" reports that when rudy giuliani went on national television wednesday night and said the president had, quote, funneled money to michael cohen for the cost of the porn star's nondisclosure agreement, quote, neither white house counsel don mcgahn or emmitt flood, the white house attorney recently hired knew that trump had reimbursed cohen
before giuliani actually revealed it on fox news. the communications of media staff run by sarah huckabee sanders did not book giuliani's appearance on hannity's show and were not involved in helping him strategize his actual talking points. now, trump, surrounded by faith leaders at yesterday's national day of prayer event, ignored questions and left sanders to face down the press. watch this. >> can you explain why the president when he spoke -- when he answered questions about reporter a few weeks ago about the $130,000 payment to michael cohen to stormy daniels, why the president was not truthfully with the american people? >> as mayor giuliani stated and i'll refer you back to his comments, this was information that the president didn't know at the time but eventually learned. >> when did you specifically know that the president repaid mr. cohen for the $130,000, you personally?
>> the first awareness i had was during the interview last night. >> all right. so late last night, giuliani told nbc news that he made the admission after being told about documents that show proof of the payment. giuliani a former u.s. attorney, accused law enforcement in the office that he once led of playing dirty, quote. i wanted to get out in front of the special counsel and the southern district of new york because at some point they would realize this information and leak it. giuliani said i don't think the president realized he paid cohen back for that specific thing until we made him aware of the actual paper work. the president responded oh, my goodness, i guess that's what it for. he also served about serving his trump lawyer. you won't see day light between the president and me. we'll work hard to have a consistent strategy. the cycle of denial and later admitting the truth has taken a toll on the president's credibility to say the least. "the washington post" found that
as of may 1st, the president has told more than 3,000 false or misleading claims yesterday. the white house commented on its standard for the truth. >> when the president so often says things that turn out not to be true, when the president of white house, show what appears to be a blatant disregard for the truth, how are the americans supposed to believe -- >> we give the very best information that we have at the time. i do that every single day and will continue to do that every day under this position. >> turning now to the russia investigation, special counsel bob mueller appearing to be getting ready to file a number of subpoenas ahead of the trial for former trump campaign chair paul manafort. in a document filed with the u.s. z-riekt court in virginia yesterday, mueller's team requested, quote, 70 blank subpoenas which amount to 35 total possible subpoenas because
they come in sets, now the two page filing orders each subpoena recipients in alexandria, virginia, at 10:00 a.m. on july 10th to testify. this filing is in addition to 35 previously requested sets. now in virginia, manafort is facing several charges including bank fraud and filing false tax returns. he's also facing charges in a washington, d.c. manafort has pleaded not guilty to all the charges that he is currently facing. we're also learning that mueller is focusing on alleged interactions between former trump campaign official rick gates and political operative roger stone. sources on a condition of anonymity saying the questions have been largely about what was discussed at meetings including dinners between stone and gates, before and during the campaign. sources telling cnbc a long time adviser to donald trump is one
of the top subjects between collusion and attorney for stone it not deny discussions between stone and gates took place but sought to downplay their importance. back in february, rick gates pled guilty to two counts stemming from the russia probe. he is said to be cooperating with mueller's investigation. excuse me. all right. congressional republicans are demanding the justice department provide them with a full look on the memo on the scope of spernl counsel robert mueller's investigation. the memo which revealed interests in allegations against paul manafort is largely redacted and could potentially reveal leads that the probe has followed. deputy attorney general rod rosenstein is reportedly reluctant to comply with the gop's request. the former federal law enforcement official familiar with the department's views told "the new york times" that rosenstein and top fbi officials have come to suspect that some lawmakers were using their oversight authority to gain
intelligence about that investigations that could be shared with the white house. asked about what the president will do, the white house said yesterday, quote, we'll see what happens. joining me now white house correspondent for the washington examiner. gaby, good morning to you. thank you for joining us. >> good morning. >> let's talk, first about rudy giuliani, brought in to bring order to trump's white house legal operation to say the least, bring order. seemingly bringing more chaos than order. what do you make of the fallout from all of his most recent comments beginning of course with that interview with sean hannity on wednesday night? >> right. i think that there are two major things that are going to happen going forward after that media blitz yesterday and that interview on wednesday night with sean hannity. the first being that robert mueller's team now has several new leads to look in to because of what rudy giuliani said during those interviews and in subsequent interviews with a
number of media outlets. i spoke with an attorney yesterday who's been closely following all of the president's legal troubles and he said that this interview was spectacularly bad in that it, you know, tri tripped a number of wires that the president's legal team may not have been aware of nor that robert mueller and his team were aware of and now they can dedicate investigative resources to looking into these things, possible campaign finance violations, things about whether the president lied about knowing or having knowledge of the payment that was made to daniels. things about his relationship with michael cohen. these are all red flags that were raised during that hannity interview and in subsequent interviews and the second thing that this really does to the president is undermines his credibility because if you go back to april 6th when he was asked on air force one if he had any knowledge of this deal between michael cohen and stormy daniels, he told reporters point-blank no, he didn't. you have to ask my personal attorney and we now know that
that is not true per his lead attorney as part of white house counsel. >> let's talk russia investigation and especially robert mueller and where we believe he is heading. obviously this new news that he's asking for these 35 subpoenas or so and then the leaking of the questions that he would possibly be asking president trump if they were to sit down with one another and he were to interview president trump for the russian investigation. considering all the information that we've learned with the direction of the russia investigation, where do you think he's heading with all of this? >> i think he's looking very closely at all of these key figures who are part of the trump campaign, who are in the periphery during the 2016 election. people like rick gates and roger stone and paul manafort. the revelation yesterday that he requested 70 blank subpoenas in the manafort case in the eastern district of virginia is huge. it goes to show the scope of which, you know, he's looking in to all of the different sketchy action that's these folks have
taken and how they may or may not relate to the president himself. i think those questions that leaked really show that there are as i was saying earlier a number of leads that his team is pursuing. they're not just looking at possible conspiracy or collusion, they're looking at all of the different, you know, payments that were made by michael cohen, the president's relationship with his personal attorney, about his close proximity to folks like paul manafort and general flynn and really there are a numb of issues at hand that could land the president in significant legal trouble. >> it seems like the scope of this investigation is much broader than we originally thought with the way things are playing out so far. gaby, i'll talk to you again at the bottom of the hour. >> thanks. after a firestorm of questions from lawmakers on both sides of the aisle, house speaker paul ryan is actually reversing course and agreeing to keep on father patrick conroy as house chaplain. ryan asked conroy to step aside last month and yesterday father
conroy sent a letter to the house speaker rescinding his resignation. he wrote in part, quote, i have never been disciplined nor reprimanded nor have i ever heard a complaint of my ministry during my time as house chaplain. when he asked ryan's chief-of-staff why he was being let go he was told, quote, maybe it's time that we had a chaplain that was not a catholic. ryan's chief-of-staff, jonathan burke took issue with ryan's version of events, says he strongly disagrees with conroy's recollection of their conversation. shortly after conroy released that letter stressing his intent to stay on, speaker ryan released his own statement saying in part, quote, i've accepted father conroy's letter and decide that had he will remain in his position as chaplain of the house. ryan also insisted again that conroy's firing was about pastoral care and had nothing to do with politics. pretty interesting development there to say the least.
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. welcome back. turning now to the korean peninsula and the future of u.s. troops in south korea. president trump has reportedly ordered the pentagon to draw up options for drawing down the number of american troops stationed in south korea. several people briefed on the deliberations telling this to the "the new york times." the officials also say that the troop levels are not intended to be a bargaining chip in trump's upcoming talks with kim jong-un, but noted that if a peace treaty is established, the need for current troop levels would be
dimini diminished. it comes on the heels of an nbc news report from earlier had week. back in february john kelly successfully dissituated trump from withdrawing all u.s. troops from the korean peninsula. americans troops are there due to the alliance and it, quote, has nothing to do with signing a peace treaty. something that south korean president moon jae-in kim jong-un has actually agreed to. the trump administration is responding to reports that the three americans detained in north korea had been moved from a labor camp to a hotel outside of pyongyang and while we await news anticipating their release, it appears president trump's attorney rudy giuliani and the white house are not on the same page regarding the current status of these three americans. watch this. >> he's getting ready to negotiate probably one of our most historic agreements since the opening to china -- >> with iran, perhaps.
>> we got kim jong-un impressed enough to be releasing three prisoners today. >> can you give us an update on the three americans held in north korea, rudy giuliani said that they were going to be released today? is that true? >> we can't confirm the validity of any of the reports currently out about their release. >> rudy giuliani have commented publicly on the north korean hostages, are they involved in any way in efforts to secure their release? >> not that i'm aware of. >> why are they commenting? >> that's a question you'd have to ask them. i don't speak for people outside the office. >> given that he isn't have a high level clearance? >> i'm not aware that they spoke about that, so i don't know. >> when mayor giuliani who's now works for president trump is talking about this on television, is he speaking on behalf of the u.s. government? >> i would just have to refer you to the white house on that because i've not spoken with mayor giuliani about his role or
comments. i don't have any information about what exactly his role is going to be other than being a legal adviser to the president. giuliani has some people to speak to. let's get a check now on your weather with bill karins. >> the heat's been incredible the last couple of days in areas of the northeast. we waited for it for so long and it's like middle of the summer heat. we're getting thunderstorms in texas and we have rainy weather through the northern great lakes. additional thunderstorms will occur. 21 million people in a slight risk of severe weather. we could get wind damage out of this and small hail. and maybe one or two tornadoes, too, especially areas of western pennsylvania and western new york. this includes much of the state of pennsylvania and all of new york state. new york city's not in it, philadelphia and baltimore is on the edge and so it washington, d.c. those areas could see storms but the severe weather should mostly be in these areas. let's time it out for this area. as we go through this morning, there's that rain in northern
michigan and rain in wisconsin. as we go through the afternoon, the storms form just ahead of this cold front. scattered storms in indiana and ohio. as we go through 4:00, 5:00 and 6:00 the storm raise from buffalo to rochester to syracuse to pittsburgh to state college and they'll be another line of storms that looks out ahead of it that will develop in the appalachians. so not everyone's going to get rained out on their friday night but a few areas getting an isolated strong storm or two. today's forecast, we're nice in the southeast, very wet and stormy this morning especially in areas right around dallas and the weekend outlook, we're watching rain, unfortunately, tennessee does not look great on saturday right through west virginia, virginia, even d.c. does not look great and we go from 92 degrees in new york city to 65 and cloudy with drizzly on sunday. so we're going up and down like this. >> i was just saying i feel like this has been the most extreme
weather pattern from record lows to record highs. >> nice like stretch of 70 degrees and sunny would be nice. >> that would be great. >> san diego. >> yeah. so this is pretty terrifying. authorities in hawaii have ordered mandatory evacuations in the wake of earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. after a weak of seismic activity lava started flowing from the kilauea volcano yesterday six hours after a 5.0 magnitude earthquake shook the island. authorities say the national guard has been activated as lava is threatening homes, while the hawaii fire department reports extremely high levels of dangerous levels of sulfur gas detected. steam and lava emissions have forced schools and government buildings to close down while several roads are already impassable due to the lava flows happening there. certainly thinking about the people dealing with that right now. some sports, king james and
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♪ welcome back, everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian. we'll begin with a new questions for president trump this morning and whether he's a new legal jeopardy following a stunning admission from rudy giuliani about hush money paid to porn star stormy daniels. giuliani's comments they actually seemed to contradict what the president has said raising red flags about whether campaign finance laws were actually broken. kristen welker has more on this. >> reporter: presidential flip-flop, president trump pressed about why he's reversed his account about the $130,000 payment to porn star stormy daniels. >> mr. president, why are you changing your story orn stormy daniels? >> reporter: this after a bombshell, the newest member of the president's legal team rudy giuliani announcing for the first time the president reimbursed his personal attorney michael cohen for that hush money payment made to daniels in the days before the 2016
election. >> it's not campaign money, no campaign finance violation, so -- >> they funneled it through the law firm? >> funneled through the law firm and the president repaid it. >> oh, he did. >> yeah. >> the president initially claimed he knew nothing. >> did you know about the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels? >> no. >> then why did michael cohen make that if there was no -- >> you have to ask michael cohen. he's my attorney and you'll have to ask michael. >> reporter: but for the first time tweeting he repaid cohen through reimbursement. and extortionist. giuliani insisting the president only found out what hisk money was used for several days ago. so was the payment illegal. an independent watch dog group argues mr. trump broke the law
by failing to disclose the loan and while giuliani insists it was all perfectly legal because the money was used for personal, not political reasons, he may have stepped on his own message with this statement indicating politics may have been at play. >> imagine if that came out on october 15th, 2016, in the middle of the last debate with hillary clinton. >> reporter: legal analysts warn tonight. >> there was a knowing and willful attempt to evade campaign finance disclosure and that could make the entire scheme a criminal activity. nbc news spoke to giuliani by phone last night. he says he learned about the president's payment from michael cohen's lawyers after being told about documents that show proof of the actual payment. giuliani said he shared that information with president trump just about a week ago. he said, quote, i don't think the president realized he paid cohen back for that specific thing until we made him aware of the paper work. giuliani said the president responded, oh, my goodness.
i guess that's what it's for. nbc news has learned that federal investigators have monitored the phones of the president's personal attorney and fixer michael cohen according to three senior u.s. officials. only the phone numbers of the callers and receivers were logged. a source tells nbc news that the monitoring was put in place in the weeks leading up to the raids last month on cohen and that at least one call associated with cohen and the white house was actually logged. after the raid, members of trump's legal team advised the president not to speak to cohen, that's from a person familiar with this discussion, two sources close to rudy giuliani say he learned that days after the raid the president had made a phone call to michael cohen and that he told trump never to call again out of concern the call was being recorded by prosecutors. we're also told that giuliani warned trump that cohen would likely flip and that the president pushed back telling giuliani that he expects cohen to remain loyal. giuliani now tells nbc news that he doesn't believe cohen will
flip saying quote, there's nothing for him to flip over. joining me here on set is legal analyst danny cevallos. good to see you. a lot to talk to you and it's only 5:00 a.m. talk to me about what we learned yesterday. initially it was being reported that the phones had been tapped and the story shifted to they were being monitored. talk to me about the differences in this and what took yesterday with regard to reporting on this story. >> it's easy to mix these things up. you have a spectrum of different kinds of searches when it comes to electronic devices. on the lowest end are the pen register and the trap and trace. the pen register records what's coming in in terms of phone calls and the trap and trace -- i'm sorry i have that backwards. pen register records what's going out and the trap and trace traps the calls coming in but all it does is record the phone numbers and that kind of information. >> it's as looking if you were seeing the cell phone bills.
>> it is and when you keep in mind that these existed long before you could just go download your cell phone bill. this was a major development 20, 30, 40 years ago, but it's the lowest level required. you just need to show that the information is likely to be relevant to your investigation, to an ongoing investigation. you move up the spectrum and you have search warrants. search warrants require probable cause that's in the constitution. that's if i want to search your past emails but at the highest end you have title three wiretaps which require beyond probable cause. you need to show that you've tried other traditional methods of obtaining evidence and they're just not available. they won't work or even that they're too dangerous to try. so the difference is significant. at the pen register level you're just recording the data about what's coming in and going out. at the highest end, for an ongoing oral surveillance, you need a title 3 wiretap. talk to me about the relevant relevance of this.
with the pen register thing. is this more about who, in fact, michael cohen was talking to and not what he was talking to about with them? >> it's exactly that. that's the only thing it's about. it's like you said, looking at your phone bill. i would add that pen registers can be used for internet data for ip addresses. when you send something over the internet to and from people on an email, there's the content of your email but there's also information ip addresses, various packets that go back and forth that aren't about the content but about who you communicated with so we have to keep that in mind. now the government may be saying, hey, we're just tracking phone calls, but i would look at the way they worded it. they may be tracking other stuff too. >> what do you make of that? what do you gain from that? if you're just finding out if there's a phone call if there was one phone call made between cohen and the white house, where does that get anybody because we don't know what they talked about? >> just to use a hypothetical, if it is alleged that something
like a conspiracy or there was a communication before a crime occurred between two people and the defendants defense is, i don't even know that guy, i've never met him, oh, except for the fact that you had ongoing communications with steve. in the case of michael cohen, one thing i can guess at is that maybe they're looking to see who he is calling for advice, so that -- just like you said. if after the raid there was a call between cohen and the president, that raises the question of are they communicating, what are they communicating about and you better believe that the government would argue that any communication, if we know they communicated is not privileged, so you -- because this is no longer an attorney client relationship, this is two folks trying to figure out, hey, at least the government might say, hey, you guys are trying to discuss your involvement in this allegedly criminal activity. >> a lot of complexities to a lot of it. >> so many. >> thank you. now for all the politics of
this, let's bring back white house correspondent for the washington examiner, gaby. we have giuliani's admission that president trump reimbursed michael cohen for the payment to stormy daniels, catching the white house off-guard to say the least. what more are you learning about the reaction within the west wing to rudy giuliani's revelation? >> not only were aides really confused about where president trump and rudy giuliani thought this would help the president, they were also just totally and completely left in the dark about this interview that he did on wednesday night and all of the interviews that happened afterwards. i spoke with somebody in the white house communications shop yesterday who said that they did not preapprove any interview that giuliani did with any national media outlet yesterday but rather that they learned of them after the fact and so there was no preparation before this, there was no consultation with the president's in-house lawyers
or anybody inside the white house communications shop and that really does present a risk to this president going forward. how can you mitigate the damage of an interview like this if you don't even know that it's going to happen and you're left to clean up afterwards? i do think this really frustrated a lot of senior white house officials, senior administration officials but it also didn't materially help rudy giuliani's client. there's no -- no attorney in washington who watched this yesterday who's been following the president's legal troubles and who would say that this was beneficial to him and not detrimental. >> i'm sure the conversations were quite tense in the west wing after the revelations that were made on sean hannity on wednesday night and sarah huckabee sanders preparing for the press briefing yesterday. do you sense that this is exactly what the president wanted when we're seeing giuliani sort of go out and do so much press that he wants someone that can go on television and really plead his
case? >> yeah. i think he wants an attack dog out there advocating for him. obviously, president trump has become more and more frustrating with the direction of the special counsel probe. he's voiced concerns about michael cohen possibly turning on him and they're trying to avoid that happening. so sending giuliani out there to, in his words, get ahead of what the southern district of new york would eventually discover was his way of, you know, benefiting himself and i'm not really sure that that actually ended up playing out more than want it had to. >> all right. thank you. have a good weekend. >> you too. still ahead, twitter is out with a warning this morning why the site is urging users to change their passwords. plus marco rubio, get this, versus monica lewinsky. there's an explanation for this pretty unusual event. i feel a great deal of urgency...
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a democratic congressman from california, one of the highest ranging latino men from congress has identified himself as the subject of a lawsuit alleging a local politician sexually abused a 16-year-old girl back in 2007. the lawsuit claims that the elected official gave the girl water with a, quote, peculiar taste on an l.a. golf course and then molested her later in a car. he was a city councilman at the time. has said that the claims are 100% categorically untrue. the democratic representative in recent days has been reaching out to his congressional colleagues, affirming his innocence. meanwhile the l.a.p.d. has stated there is no active investigation in to cardenas. although written by an intern at politico this article is a reminder of how difficult it can be to discuss public
policy in political press. not only did i not back down on a tax cut, i doubled down and added detail for rational. rubio's tweet suggesting the article was misleading as part of the senator's efforts to tone down his criticism of the new tax cuts from earlier this week. unfortunately, the move raised the eyebrow of a former intern in the process, one monica lewinsky who responded, blaming the intern is so 1990s. no word yet on how much ice was required for the senator's burn. let's get a check now on your weather with nbc meteorologist. >> a lot of fun news stories. >> fun, complicated. call what you may. >> exactly. storms this morning are erupt not guilty texas and in the dallas-ft. worth area. you have rain heading your way even heavy at times and the airport delays for takeoffs and landings. the big story today is the heat
ending in the northeast, thunderstorms will roll through. wind damage for some people, maybe an isolated tornado. it's not going to be widespread but there's a slight risk here for pennsylvania, portions of ohio and new york state. the past two days have been warm especially after the spring that we had. 90 two days in a row in new york city, d.c. was 91 and 90 and in boston came close, though it didn't quite get there to 90 degrees. for today, cooler, rochester, 78, new york city 86. still holding on to the heat from d.c. to richmond. still around 90 degrees and this weekend, things really cool back. actually below average by the time we get to sunday. so enjoy saturday and throughout much of the northeast. that's when you get the nice day in the 70s. little more rain around as we go through sunday and more clouds too keeping the temperatures down. today's forecast, severe to maybe strong to severe thunderstorms in the northeast. there's the rain in texas. pretty nice northern plains, southeast looks good. tampa very much summer-like and of course this weekend, the
kentucky derby on nbc and it does look like a slight chance of rain. it doesn't look like a washout. about 79 degrees for the running of the roses. everyone likes to get all dressed up and have fun out there too. we'll call it 70 and just a chance of showers. today's actually the oaks. a big day in kentucky too. a two zay event. yasmin, you ever been? >> i have never been. even though it's raining, even if it is raining, they'll have drinks in them usually with the kentucky derby. >> especially the infield. ever want to get the true experience of the derby, go into the infield. >> you got to change your twitter password. what to watch today as well for today's job report but federal investigators are out on that deadly southwest flight. the stories driving your business day next. to run this business, but i really love it. i'm on the move all day long,
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all right. we're going to turn to business now and a warning to twitter's nearly 400 million users. the company says you should change your passwords, nbc's karen cho joining us from london, what's going on here? >> well twitter is downplaying the data problem. but still urging all users to change their passwords, effectively a glitch has meant that the passwords have been stored in plain text instead of being encrypted.
analysts say the fact that all twitter users has been asked to change their passwords suggests that twitter doesn't know how long the problem has occurred for. twitter has taken action to make sure it doesn't happen again, but also says it's not a breach. which means it doesn't think the informational passwords have been stolen or misused. to the latest on southwest airlines and the air jet engine's failure that led to a fatality last month had actually been tested several times. a preliminary report by the national transportation safety board found that the engine that broke loose had been inspected several times. the engine maker has urged airlines to use more sophisticated tests, including using ultrasound or electric current to expose cracks beneath the surface. the problems raise questions about the safety of one of the world's most popular jet engines. the faa has also urged many of the airline through two orders to ramp up those tests before
the end of august. yasmine? >> hoping they can ramp up those tests soon. so that nothing like that ever happens again. a lot of people anticipating the jobs report that's going to be released late they are morning, what can we expect from this? >> expect a fairly punchy headline number. up to 200,000 jobs are likely to have been created through the month of april and the unemployment rate could touch 4% for the first time since 2,000. but the markets also watching the wages component. because don't forget many investors on red alert for any breakout in inflation numbers, so the expectation, .2% increase for the month. if you see a stronger number than that it could spur the dollar to move forward, which would encourage some of those dollar bulls, yasmine. >> we'll look for that report which will likely break live on "morning joe." up next, jonathan swan of axios has a look at this morning's one big thing.
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welcome back. joining us from washington with a look at axios a.m., national political reporter for axios jonathan swan. jonathan, good morning to you. talk about this morning's one big thing. >> the president and the special counsel, bob mueller engaged in what jonathan kyle, who is subbing in for mike allen this morning, calls a great game of chicken. on one side you have mueller's team, who are threatening to subpoena the president. rudy giuliani says he thinks there's a 50/50 chance that he does issue a subpoena. so they're preparing for that then you have the president, who is threatening to fire bob mueller. but neither side actually wants to do either of those things. because the mueller subpoena
could get, that would be a legal contest, that could drag out for months, they could lose it, it gives time for the president, and his allies to undermine public faith in the mueller probe. and then trump's lawyers, nobody on the team thinks it's a good idea for trump to fire mueller. so you have this very interesting stand-off that trump's legal team at least thinks will probably end with trump submitting written answers to questions. >> where do you think this goes from here, though, jonathan? because like you said, universally it seems across the board, any lawyer that is friendly to trump believe he is should not sit down with mueller. we do know that president trump at the end of the day makes a lot of the calls himself. and he does what he wants to do. >> that is true. so it's impossible to actually be certain about this. but the fact that they keep telling him his lawyers that it's a quite-unquote perjury trap and there's nothing they
can indict you for. i'm just telling you what lawyers are telling trump, not my own views. they're saying the only way you get in trouble is if you sit in a room with him and they catch you in a lie. the question is, does that legal advice accumulated legal advice over many months actually sink in and penetrate? or does trump you know go off in the direction that nobody on his team wants him to do? >> it's a wait-and-see game for sure. i know you guys have some reporting on john kelly. who it seems has resigned himself to the fact that he can't necessarily control president trump. even though when he was first appointed chief of staff, we thought this was going to be the guy that was going to come to the white house and sort of bring everything into the order, into order in the west wing. it doesn't seem that that's necessarily happening any more. >> there's a lot of black comedy these days from john kelly. gallows humor inside the west wing. he really is resigned to the fact that he's dealing with somebody who does not actually believe in the role of chief of staff, fundamentally.
trump initially had no respect for the position, saw it as just an administrative, almost secretarial role. it's never really resonated with him. and now as we're seeing with what trump is doing with rudy giuliani. you have a media legal operation that is operating entirely independent of the white house. it's quite remarkable. >> so talk about that. do you have any reporting about that? the disconnect that we are seeing between the trump/rudy show and the west wing in the white house? we saw it play out in the press briefing yesterday with sarah huckabee sanders. >> right. it is truly its own little unit. that's operating, i mean i was talking in real-time with people while rudy was on "sean hannity" show on fox. there's senior people in the white house -- they're watching it like us. they're like viewers, spectators watching this playing out on tv. and these are not junior, mid-level people, these are senior people watching it in real-time on tv. as if they are you know, just
guests watching you know in someone's home. watching a show on television. >> i think i was reading when i was reading your reporting, i saw someone had texted someone within the white house and said what's going on here, and they sent back the emoji that said this -- i have no idea. jonathan swan, we'll be reading axios a.m. in just a little bit. for you, you can sign up for their newsletter on axios.com. i'm yasmin vossoughian, "morning joe" starts right now. good morning. it's friday. it's just friday may 4th. joe is on assignment. we have a lot to get to. with us to start things off msnbc contributor mike barnicle. donny deutsch is here, republican strategist and political commentator, susan del pursio and law professor at george washington university, jonathan turley and